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Thank you all for being with us. We are

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here to talk about analyst academy.

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We're here to talk a little bit about AI

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and blending AI with the core chassis of

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investment process.

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All right, let's do it. So, first and

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foremost, Analyst Academy is a virtual

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program. I'm based in Arizona. Andrew

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Carr is based in New York. We found in

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training uh fundamental equity analysts

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that taking time off the desk is very

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expensive to do, very hard to do. And so

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the core design principle of every

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everything we do is everything is

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recorded. Um you can sort of join join

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the sessions live. Um but everything

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will sort of exist in a 12-month wrapper

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with virtual virtual recordings as

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digital curriculum. um as a background

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uh to sort of the curriculum ideation,

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the curriculum is really a function of

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the time I spent as a fundamental

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analyst and portfolio manager. Now, it

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isn't necessarily Brett's way to invest.

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We sort of tried to take a lot of the

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personalization out of the investment

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process. But the benefit I had as an

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investor is the ability to have worked

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at a number of tier one hedge funds and

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I got to see the investment process

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practice a large tiger cub a large

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multistrat a large mult multi-manager a

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quantitative fund and another another

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mult multist strateger strategy fund and

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what I found through that process is

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that the core of the investment process

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at really all funds is about 75% similar

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60 80 some somewhere in that range of

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the types of investment process

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practiced from fund to fund is very

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different. Now the expression of that

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investment process will vary based on

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your risk wrapper and your culture etc.

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But what we've really tried to do in the

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analyst academy is take that essential

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investment process that is widely

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practiced but seldom taught and put it

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into an accessible training academy

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virtually via the analyst academy. I'm

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joined in this effort by Andrew Carr who

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will introduce himself now.

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>> Good evening everybody. My name is

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Andrew Carr. Uh I joined Fundamental

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Edge in February of 2024. Prior to that

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uh I spent about seven years on the buy

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side. I did about three and a half at

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Balaznne. I did one year at a single

2:16

manager backed by Blackstone. And then

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up until about the summer of 2023, I was

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working on a Fins team over at Exodus

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Point. And one of the things that I was

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doing during my time as a hedge fund

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analyst is a lot of coaching of hedge

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fund analysts who were earlier in their

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journey. And so I reached out to Brett

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admiring what he had put together on the

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tiger cub style analyst process. And I

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said you have managed multi-manager

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analyst but you don't have the

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perspective of having been a

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multi-manager analyst. And that's where

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I think we can team up. So, by joining

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Fundamental Edge, uh, I've been helping

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out with the pitching, uh, some of the

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breaking in stuff, as well as rounding

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out the curriculum to make sure that we

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have as non-denominational a curriculum

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as possible that is effective for as

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many learners as possible. Back to you,

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Brett.

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>> Thank you, Andrew.

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So the re the the very simple core

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question that the entire 60-hour program

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is is tilted at is this very common and

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very terrifying question that almost

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every junior analyst gets from their PM

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of take a look at this stock and let me

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know what you think. And that seems

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quite innocuous but that happened to me

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in August of 2008 and I didn't know how

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to answer the question. I was an Arizona

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State grad. Spent a year of investment

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banking. Joined Maverick in August 2008.

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About as motivated as I could be.

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Totally totally green. Super excited.

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Super excited to be there. But the first

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time on the desk, I also had a bad

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haircut and wore an undershirt and all

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sorts of had a little acne still back

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then. Um, I did not have a structured

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investment process to answer that

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question. Well, and for the first 18 to

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24 months on the desk, I struggled

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intensely because of that. And so that's

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been part of our mission, right? Part of

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the mission is sort of take what Andrew

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and I have learned the hard most of the

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time the hard way living on the desk and

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bring that back to you. And there's been

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a there's been a movement to sort of

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identify that the learn through osmosis,

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it's an apprenticeship business really

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means figure it out on your own kid,

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right? And as you'll see in the 1500

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slides and 60 hours of analyst academy,

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it's hard to figure it out all all out

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on your own. Of course, there are many

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things you will figure out on your own

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that you can only figure out through

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getting reps, through getting feedback

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from the market, right? But there has

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been an awareness in the market over the

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last 5 to 10 years that analystmies can

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teach the core chassis of an investment

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process. [clears throat] Whether it's

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the point 72 academy or citadel or

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balazzy the multimmanagers have been

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building these large internal

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trainingmies that's a big that's a big

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resource lift to do and so part of what

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most funds do is you know each team

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trains individually right that gives the

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advantage of teaching their own way but

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there's no scale to teaching the

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foundational principles most PMs are not

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going to sit with you for 30 minutes and

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break down unit economics and return on

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incremental invested capital and the

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eyesight whisper and the pre-trade etc.

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That's what we do. We teach the

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non-denominational principles that form

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the solid backbone of our assessment of

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good investment process. So that's

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really the standard is to deliver a

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training program that prepares analysts

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for the rigors of the buyside seat. The

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vast majority of our students are either

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you know in the first three years at a

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byside seat. That's about 2/3 not the

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first three years in some but most of it

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most of them in the first three years we

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have people in three year 3 to year 15

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join as well or investors who are tilted

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towards that towards that seat. They're

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sort of coming from sellside equity

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research or private equity or investment

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banking. We do have a small subset of

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people who want to practice

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institutional grade investment process

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on their on their own join as well too.

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Um Andrew you want to break down the

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structure uh structure of the program?

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>> Sure. So, one of the questions that you

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might have is, you know, my my schedule

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is crazy. I can't possibly commit to

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being in person for any of this. And so,

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we've anticipated that it is actually

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impossible to find a schedule that suits

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the schedule of all learners. And that's

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why what we did is we put our core

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content into roughly 30 to 35 hours that

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you can consume on your own time, on

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your own schedule. And from the time

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that you enroll, you'll enjoy 12 months

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of access to the materials. Now we also

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do have some live components but those

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are not mandatory to join either. We

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have office hours and you may have

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questions as you make your way through

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the materials. We for that we actually

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have a mailbag where you can send in

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your questions or you can join live.

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Either way the office hours will be

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recorded live so you can review them

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later. We're also responsive over email.

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On top of that, one of the things that

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we do is we offer coaching sessions for

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any question that you may have where you

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want to have one-on-one to talk through

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something, whether that's something that

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you're dealing with on the job or

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whether that's uh something related to

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recruiting or some other topic related

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to research. And actually one other

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thing that we do is also for those who

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are interested now twothirds of our

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learners are already at byside firms.

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For you, you will have to clear it with

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compliance. One of the other things that

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we'll do is a pitch review um as part of

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the other personalized coaching if that

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is something that would interest you.

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Back to you.

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>> Yeah, great. Um so, uh you know, that's

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that that's an overview. It's about 30

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hours core curriculum, another

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um uh probably 30 hours of speaker

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series. So, bringing bringing in a

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masterclass guest speaker series to

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supplement the core curriculum. We'll go

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through a number of those speaker

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series. I'd say we're making a I think a

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relatively notable pivot in the August

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cohort of investment uh of the analyst

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academy. I say here to for we have not

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blended AI processes into the core

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analyst academy really in any meaningful

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way other than a few demonstrations in

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office hours. But we as a good investor

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does we try to adapt with the times.

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Much of the core curriculum is evergreen

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in terms of the way to sort of think

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about business quality doesn't shift

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that much over time but the AI toolkit

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has shifted notably Ken himself caught

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this sort of you know change change in

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the paradigm from January where he was

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talking about AI as a slot machine into

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May where he's talking about the

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profound improvements that agents have

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introduced to to Citadel and so we try

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we've tried to be very um at the

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forefront of thinking about investment

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process and how to build an agentic

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investment process. We've done that in a

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separate program called the AI

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accelerator which you may have seen

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which is a six-month program where we're

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leading about 200 analysts and portfolio

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managers through the augmentation of

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their investment process with AI. We've

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learned a lot through that process. We

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that sort of program is ongoing

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in a large way. A lot of the AI

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accelerator is actually better suited

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for more established

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investors and that sort of fits with the

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profile of the typical AI accelerator

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student. It's hard to hard to augment a

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process if you don't have an existing

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process. And part of what we do in the

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analyst academy is help you see an an

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existing process. So what we've done

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with this program is we've taken the

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foundational seminar which is recorded,

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the AI augmented deep dive session which

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is recorded and live access to our

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earnings module and October module and

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we're going to roll that in blend that

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in to this program. And so you'll get

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the four modules that are more suitable

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for an early career learner with no

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incremental cost. We're sort of blending

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blending this into that that investment

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process. So we've expanded the program

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which is historically a six week program

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to six six-month program and really for

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the first time integrating the analyst

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academy with the sort of you know mo

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most junior part junior relevant part of

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the AI excel accelerator. So that's sort

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of a nice you know I think a notable

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change uh to the program at no at no

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incremental no incremental co cost. Why

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are we doing this? We think I think that

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really for the first time the tools have

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passed um uh past threshold for

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institutional grade process that what

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we've always endeavored to do is is seek

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which is a very hubristic sort of

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viewpoint seek best practices right

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we're trying to give you analyst academy

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our best assessment of what best

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practices are for an investment analyst

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a tier one investment analyst our view

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is that really now you cannot be uh run

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a process with best practices with

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without some degree of AI augmentation

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in that process. So we're we're trying

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to move with that move with that with

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that um with that sense. Uh anything to

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add on that Andrew?

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>> Yeah, I think uh just I would point out

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we are always trying to prepare people

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for the realities of the seed. And

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although there are some parts of

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investing that are going to be true no

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matter what era of AI we're in, there

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are other parts about the day-to-day

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workflows and the tooling where the onus

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is on us to prepare our students for the

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types of things that they either are

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encountering or will encounter on the

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seat. Many given that two-thirds of our

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students are already in a seat, we're

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offering a lot of color commentary to

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things to kind of round out their

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knowledge uh because it's certainly busy

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enough on the desk.

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Andrew, do you want to take us through

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the core curriculum and the ninestep

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thesis development process?

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>> Sure. So, um, what [clears throat] Brett

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alluded to earlier is Analyst Academy is

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our answer to the question of what to do

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when a PM says to you, "Take a look at

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this stock and let me know what you

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think." And in this kind of industry,

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sometimes it's not so clear. Your PM may

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not have time to spell out every last

12:22

thing that the PM wants you to do. You

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may find out the hard way when you spin

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your wheels on a pitch and you spend

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three days when the PM wanted you to

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spend 12 hours or you may have focused

12:32

too much on one part of what's going on

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at the company but missed the forest for

12:37

the trees a little bit and not

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identified the key drivers. What we go

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through is it's never going to be

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exactly a chameleonike process for each

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and every seed for all of our learners.

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But what we do is we give kind of a raw

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rough cut of the ingredients that are

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commonly involved in an analyst process

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and then we walk through the different

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ways that people go through those and we

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don't just do them for one kind of

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mandate either. Sometimes people wonder

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you know is this over represented for

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multi-managers and that's actually not

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the case. We have a good mix of people

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from long only single managers and

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multi-manager investment firms. So we go

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through what this process looks like and

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we pay attention to the nuances between

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the different types of investment

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mandates that there are. But this is

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everything from when you get a company

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to understand what the company does,

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thinking through the financials, getting

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a model together, all the baseline

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research you need to do, starting to

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understand what what the key drivers of

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the stock are, and then advancing that

13:35

understanding into a researchable

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question in search of finding a variant

13:39

view versus what the street is already

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pricing in. If you're not sure if you

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can tell whether the street is pricing

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in uh a given development or another, we

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also have assessing expectations and

13:49

applied valuation to sort of take the

13:50

temperature of what a stock is telling

13:52

you and what the market believes. We're

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going to help you identify catalysts for

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when your variant view and the market

13:58

view hopefully converge and that's

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through earning season. We go through

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meeting management where you learn to

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stay on top of your companies, monitor

14:07

things, and continually play offense to

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deepen your understanding of your

14:12

company so that you can be better than

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95% of the street if not more. We go

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through what a process of deep dive

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research looks like, what buyside

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modeling look like. It's very easy. We

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just had a guest on our podcast who said

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it's very easy to download a model that

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looks like a hedge fund model, but you

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really have to decode why the model was

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built in the way that it was. And to do

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that requires the judgment, discernment,

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and nuance that uh are exactly the kinds

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of things that we go through in analyst

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academy. Now, we also go through

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shortselling. We go through industry

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coverage. We go through all the

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different parts of the job that usually

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you learn through osmosis or you really

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only get there after a year or two when

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it would have been hugely helpful to

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have learned them a year or two earlier.

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And of course, what is a variant view

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without being able to communicate it to

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your PM. We go through how to take a

15:01

stock pitch from what is commonly a book

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report into something that actually

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makes a PM sit forward in their seat and

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think whether you should do more work or

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whether they should put the position on.

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So we we cover all the elements of what

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being a buyside analyst is in a sort of

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salad bar approach. Take what works for

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you, leave what doesn't.

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>> Yeah. So I think you know Andrew

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mentioned the salad approach and that's

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a lot of what we try to do right in in

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some ways we try to almost overengineer

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an investment process. So you can take

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the backbone of our ninestep thesis

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development process of how do you

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develop expertise on a new company and

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new industry. How do you identify if an

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idea is promising or not with a sniff

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test and you know sort of you know

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filler kill gates you know how do you

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build the model structure you your due

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diligence do your expectations and

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valuation work identify the core debate

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and tailor due diligence you know

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develop that critical differential

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insight and quantify that differential

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insight into key inputs into your

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process build roll that all up into a

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thesis and then present feedback you

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know receive feedback back um and moni

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monitor the idea. Is this to say that

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you know step five has to come right at

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step five? It can't come as step two. Of

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course not. But the activating of your

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antenna to uh give you a sort of typical

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investment process we find to be a

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helpful educational educational o

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overview and sometimes you know even a

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simple chart like this would have been

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quite helpful to me in August 2008 when

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I didn't know where to start and I

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started reading the annual report of two

16:44

travel 6 hours later I'd read every

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footnote but I had no view of any any

16:50

differential perspective on the company

16:52

would have been helpful for me to

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understand okay this is how you might

16:55

want to calibrate your first few days on

16:57

an idea we'll also give a number of

16:59

lived examples with some you know worked

17:02

excel models some worked case studies

17:05

some supplemental readings that will

17:07

create a holistic uh holistic approach

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so ultimately the materials will be

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about 30 hours of core curriculum

17:15

supplemental videos there some sometimes

17:17

webinars we've done in the past or

17:19

sometimes program exclusives uh some

17:22

stock pitch competition videos, guest

17:24

speaker recordings, supplemental

17:25

readings. So in total, I don't think

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we've been accused of of sort of

17:30

underdoing it from a from a depth

17:32

perspective. In total, it's about a 100

17:34

hour process if you were to sort of work

17:36

every element of the process. Now,

17:38

different students work different parts

17:40

of it. So many longings will skip the

17:42

short selling. Very few students will go

17:44

through every supplemental video or

17:46

speaker session. But what we really want

17:48

to do is put a resource in front of you

17:50

for that 12 months that will sort of

17:52

help take your game from day zero to day

17:54

365 and level up level up your level up

17:58

your process. We'll do that with a live

18:00

kickoff next week uh rolling into our

18:03

our monthly office hours that will have

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students from the sort of past cohorts

18:07

on their six month six-month journey.

18:09

That's really an opportunity to answer

18:11

any questions. And then monthly we will

18:14

have an office hours in AI lab where we

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will do sort of a a little bit of like a

18:19

what's new in AI what are the new things

18:21

that are that are happening uh to

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stimulate some conversations and then

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we'll take any question any time in

18:27

those September office hours if there's

18:29

anything urgent like Andrew mentioned

18:31

we're available via email um Andrew has

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some time to do one-on-one coaching uh

18:35

but then really the the journey for the

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August cohort will be office hours into

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into January where you'll certify

18:42

completion for the fundamental edge

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certificate. Uh and part of that is is

18:46

is is if compliance allows the virtual

18:49

virtual pitch competition. So in theory

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this you know 60 hours 60 to 100 hour

18:54

program can be completed in six days or

18:56

six months. You know generally we find

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the average student takes a number of

18:59

months to work through work work through

19:02

all the curriculum. Andrew you want to

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take us through the guest speakers?

19:05

Yeah. So, uh, with the guest speaker

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sessions over the years, we've been very

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fortunate to have speakers come in and

19:13

record sessions and we've got just a

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variety of perspectives. Now, you're

19:17

going to think about investment

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philosophy and kind of being

19:20

unemotional, learned from Howard Marx,

19:22

who had a number of great buys that were

19:24

fueled by being unemotional and

19:26

objective. You're going to get an

19:27

overview of macro analyses and leading

19:29

and concurrent and lagging indicators.

19:33

You're you're going to hear from Ricky

19:34

Sandler and how he changed the approach

19:36

of his fund after 2021.

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Moreover, you're going to actually get

19:41

some people from different aspects of

19:43

the market. For instance, one of our uh

19:46

best speaker, we have a session with Tom

19:48

Elnik who talks all about uh alternative

19:50

data. If you're curious about forensic

19:52

accounting, we have David Zion who's uh

19:55

whose livelihood is teaching forensic

19:57

accounting to real investors.

19:59

Additionally, we also have um

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uh we have interviews with for instance

20:06

the head of IR of a company that I

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covered. So, some of you are going to be

20:10

doing management meetings and here's

20:12

Aaron Hoffman who did the job for 28

20:14

years and he spent 90 minutes saying

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here's what good analysts do in meetings

20:19

and how they prepare and here's what the

20:21

bad analysts do. and he didn't pull any

20:23

punches. And Brett and I sat watching

20:25

this webinar thinking where was this

20:27

when we were just getting started out.

20:29

Also, you'll if you're not already doing

20:30

the job, you'll certainly be able to uh

20:33

anticipate this. Your mindset is going

20:35

to be critical. And for that, we have

20:36

Lisa Mogi who uh was Brett's uh mindset

20:40

coach at DE Shaw. And if you're curious

20:42

about activist shortselling, we talk not

20:44

only with people from Muddy Waters, but

20:45

someone from a short dedicated fund. uh

20:48

you you will find no shortage of

20:50

perspectives, valuable and incremental

20:52

perspectives from the guest speaker

20:53

sessions that we do and continue to do.

20:57

>> Part of the journey to stay stay current

20:59

too has just been the exploration of of

21:01

AI. We started this in the fall of 2024

21:04

uh with a cutting edge webinar series.

21:06

We've done that now with the podcast

21:08

invest with AI. Uh we've open sourced a

21:10

number of these speakers, but we do a

21:12

number of these sort of embedded in our

21:14

core programs as well too. So we include

21:16

many of those guest speakers in the AI

21:18

accelerator we're including in the

21:19

analyst academy as well too. I'd say the

21:22

last element of of uh of the fundamental

21:24

edge analyst academy which has been

21:26

really fun over time has been the sort

21:28

of endeavor to build a community around

21:30

it right our goal from the start was

21:31

that when you see fundamental edge on a

21:34

resume it means something so that's part

21:35

of the certification

21:37

process that we sort of you know

21:39

evaluate evaluate program you know

21:41

substantial program completion now that

21:43

means different things to different

21:44

people to earn the fundament fundamental

21:46

edge uh e edge badge uh that gives you

21:50

know students preferential access to the

21:51

talent hub sort of top of stack top of

21:54

stack process and it really becomes a

21:56

part of the growing community of nearly

21:58

two 2,000 analysts over time uh that

22:01

have completed completed the program.

22:02

We're not quite there yet in competing

22:04

with the, you know, credentials of

22:06

Columbia Business School. But that's

22:08

sort of our that's sort of idea over

22:09

time is that, you know, this community

22:11

should meet something when you meet

22:13

another analyst academy graduate.

22:14

There's a there's a expected level of

22:17

understanding and comprehension which

22:20

gives you, you know, an all clear to at

22:22

least interview that person. And if they

22:25

don't do well in the pitch, if they're

22:26

an analyst academy grant, don't don't do

22:28

well in the pitch in the interview, send

22:30

them our way for a little for a little

22:31

uh for a little tuneup. Logistics,

22:34

everything is done in a learning

22:35

management system called Teachable with

22:37

Zoom links. And the ultimate objective

22:39

at the end of the program is that when

22:41

your PM asks you to take a look at a

22:44

stock, you have a structured program

22:46

you've drawn from our salad and have the

22:48

ability to conduct investment investment

22:50

grade research. for your participation.

22:54

We'll email this out as well too. Um

22:57

info-2026

23:00

for your participation being with with

23:02

us on this fine Thursday afternoon uh

23:05

for info session. If you're interested,

23:07

please please use that. Uh with that,

23:09

that's sort of the core of the

23:10

presentation and we are happy to take

23:12

questions from anyone on the line.

23:16

Feel free to drop them in the chat. uh

23:19

drop that in the chat or um just raise

23:22

your hand as well.

23:24

>> I see one in the chat. And as the

23:26

questions fill in, one thing I would add

23:28

is uh Analyst Academy also prepares you.

23:30

I know we talked a lot about

23:32

underwriting an idea, but one of the

23:33

other things you'll get from Analyst

23:35

Academy is the in the trenches

23:37

experience of what to do when that

23:38

position is actually live in the

23:40

portfolio. How to be wrong with your PM.

23:42

Uh the kinds of things that can only

23:44

happen once kind of the boat has left

23:46

the dock and that pitch can either help

23:48

or hurt your P&L. How do you rewrite a

23:51

thesis without shredding your

23:52

credibility with your PM? Uh how do you

23:56

uphold dispassionate analysis across

23:58

whatever your coverage universe may be?

24:00

whether you're a generalist or

24:01

specialist, we show how to do these

24:03

things kind of at the atomic level or

24:06

per unit level, but then also the kinds

24:08

of systems you're going to need to

24:09

manage this process as you do the job

24:11

full-time. So, it looks like our first

24:14

question that came through uh comes from

24:17

BU who asks besides Excel, Gemini,

24:21

Claude, or Chat GPT, are there any other

24:23

tools or services we would be using or

24:24

we may need to subscribe to for this

24:26

course? There's no tools that you may

24:28

need to subscribe to uh for this course.

24:30

But one thing that I would point out is

24:33

as part of analyst academy, we've

24:35

partnered with a number of different

24:36

vendors who offer different tools or

24:38

solutions that are commonly found in the

24:40

analyst seat. Uh to that effect, when it

24:43

comes to learning about sellside

24:45

consensus and pulling cellside

24:46

consensus, we have trial partnerships

24:48

with visible alpha. When it comes to

24:50

doing expert network calls and reading

24:52

through expert call transcripts, we have

24:54

a partnership with AlphaSense. When it

24:56

comes to getting audited, click-through

24:58

historical data, we have a partnership

24:59

with DUPA as well. So, uh it's not like

25:03

you need a Bloomberg terminal in order

25:04

to get the most out of Fundamental Edge

25:06

Analyst Academy. We try to make it as

25:07

non-denominational as possible.

25:13

We got a question from Karen who asked,

25:15

"Do we get one-on-one time?" All

25:17

students will get a 30-inut coaching

25:20

session uh that's included with uh

25:22

enrollment and then also a capstone

25:25

pitch review.

25:28

And I would say generally what we found

25:31

is

25:32

um you know

25:35

in our office hours um you know maybe

25:39

20% of the cohort joins for the live

25:42

office hours. So those can be you know

25:44

those can be smaller groups and those

25:46

are quite good opportunities to get a

25:49

lot of questions questions answered as

25:51

well too. And I think this comes back to

25:52

people are quite people are quite quite

25:54

quite quite quite busy. Question for

25:57

Max. How much of the AI accelerators

25:59

incorporated in the analyst academy? Why

26:00

should I consider doing both? Do you

26:02

incorporate any special situations

26:04

research? So I'd say roughly about half

26:06

of the AI accelerator is incorporated in

26:11

uh the analyst academy. So, I'd say for

26:13

an early career investor, there's no

26:17

need to do both. Um, because I'd say

26:20

there's sort of like two elements to the

26:24

um AI accelerator. There's some of the

26:26

basic level one processes,

26:31

deep dive system, uh building an Excel

26:34

system, building an earnings preview

26:36

system. those are more relevant by our

26:38

estimation to um sort of the early

26:41

career investors and we've included that

26:44

now officially in analyst academy. I'd

26:47

say the more advanced modules in the AI

26:49

acceler

26:52

it's not the right time like if you're

26:53

just landing on the desk those can sort

26:55

of be addressed later. So that's how

26:57

we've thought about the the relevant

26:58

structure. Now, if there's interested in

27:00

doing both, we can obviously offer a

27:02

bundle to that at sort of substantially

27:04

reduced economics for the AI AI

27:06

accelerator, but I wouldn't necessarily

27:07

Max uh point you to I don't know your

27:10

specific instance, but I wouldn't

27:11

necessarily point you towards towards

27:13

both. Certainly, if you're interested in

27:14

both, email us because you know, you

27:17

shouldn't pay sort of retail price for

27:19

for for both. Do we incorporate any

27:21

special situations research? A little

27:23

bit, but not that much. I mean Andrew,

27:25

what do we have in the special sits um

27:28

sits side?

27:29

>> Um one of the things that we talk about

27:31

is you know kind of on the event driven

27:34

side perhaps one of the things we talk

27:36

about with assessing expectations is the

27:38

probability of success framework which

27:40

is used in the case of merger ARB or in

27:42

the case of uh binary outcomes whether

27:45

that's litigation or others. Uh it's one

27:47

of the handy ways that we talk about

27:49

assessing the different nodes of upside

27:50

and downside. Uh that that's one thing I

27:53

would call out.

27:56

Yeah, question. If I want to boost my

27:58

financial modeling skills, should I

28:00

pursue a separate course first then come

28:02

back to uh to uh to FE? Yeah, I'd say if

28:06

it's like if you if you are not

28:08

comfortable with your speed and Excel

28:11

and the basic accounting

28:13

um that can be an that can be a helpful

28:15

prerequisite. There are number like Wall

28:17

Street prep training the street courses

28:19

that are a few hundred dollars that can

28:20

be sort of a an an easy addition. We

28:24

generally take the lens in our analyst

28:27

academy that you you have those

28:30

foundations

28:31

uh ironed out a bit. So we don't want to

28:35

you know many of our students have had a

28:37

few years experience in some finance job

28:40

before they come to an analyst academy.

28:42

Um so that could be a that could be a

28:44

helpful uh prerequisite. So I'd probably

28:46

say start there start there first. Um,

28:50

and then access to prior academy grads

28:52

for networking community purposes.

28:54

That's always a little tricky candidly

28:57

because some want to network, some

28:59

don't. We do that principally through uh

29:02

principally through uh New York m New

29:05

York City mixers. Uh if you're on the

29:08

West Coast, sorry, you kind of miss out

29:10

on a lot of that. Roughly 50% of our

29:12

students are in the New York City area.

29:15

So at least, you know, generally around

29:16

once a quarterish, we will do a mixer

29:20

where where I'll throw the fundamental

29:22

edge credit card down and we can see how

29:24

much damage you can do. You know, young

29:27

people don't drink as much as uh as we

29:29

did back in our day. Um so the bill's

29:32

not usually that bad, but then we'll

29:33

sort of sit and connect and a lot of

29:35

great networking happens that way. We do

29:37

have a LinkedIn um uh for alumni that

29:40

once you you sort of certify in the

29:42

course, we will invite you to that. I'd

29:44

say that's not the most it's not the

29:46

most active uh active um but I'd say

29:49

what happens a lot quite a lot is either

29:52

funds come to us looking to hire analyst

29:56

academy grads or more and more former

29:59

analyst academy grads are saying hey

30:01

Brett you know you know my CIO is happy

30:04

with me are there others we can sort of

30:06

pull along then the PM sort of gets a

30:08

pre-trained analyst which is which is

30:10

they like um so a lot of the networking

30:13

happens through. It's the same way

30:14

that's like, you know, a Wharton person

30:16

gets to a hedge fund, then hires two

30:18

other Wharton people. So, there's a

30:20

little bit of that activity going on as

30:21

well, too. I'd say overall, we stopped

30:24

keeping count, but I think we've played

30:26

a role, or at least an introductory role

30:27

into over a hundred placements um since

30:31

the start of an F fundamental edge. Now,

30:34

to be very clear, out of nearly 2,000

30:36

students, that's a small percentage. So

30:38

this is not don't view Analyst Academy

30:40

like a coding boot camp where there's a

30:41

guarantee of a job by any means. Um but

30:44

we do like to play a role in in

30:46

introductions where we where we can.

30:49

Will there be a September cohort?

30:51

Generally uh Dylan we run about um you

30:56

know every other month or so. So most

30:58

likely won't be a September. There'll

31:00

probably be like an October October

31:02

cohort. I would point out that if you

31:04

have a busy August or traveling lot in

31:07

August, the kickoff sessions will be

31:10

recorded. So you can come back and you

31:12

can effectively start in start in uh

31:14

September. Although that would be a sort

31:16

of you'd be you'd be on a delay. You'd

31:18

be watching a a recorded session rather

31:20

than participating live. So if you'd

31:23

like to participate live in all of the

31:24

sessions, uh we haven't set a date for

31:26

that yet, but likely uh likely

31:28

midocctober.

31:35

Andrew, any other FAQs that we get in

31:37

info sessions that are relevant?

31:41

>> Got my little scratch pad here of

31:42

questions that often come up. So, one of

31:44

them, you know, is it asynchronous? Yes,

31:47

the whole course can be completed uh

31:50

without joining the live sessions. U

31:53

secondly, you know, sometimes people

31:55

say, is this just for breaking in?

31:56

Actually, the facts are that twice as

31:58

many students in analyst academy are

32:00

already at a firm versus not. And what I

32:03

would say is these skills are in demand

32:04

whether you're looking to enter the

32:05

industry or improve in the industry. Um,

32:08

always a question on time limit. From

32:10

the time of purchase, you have 12 months

32:12

access to the materials and six months

32:15

access to the live sessions. We talked

32:18

about the mandate agnostic part.

32:22

uh certainly you can see that AI is uh

32:26

an increasing part of analyst academy to

32:28

reflect the reality on the ground. So uh

32:30

we are keeping up with AI certainly and

32:33

then there's a question of um you know

32:35

do I get coaching we hit that um what

32:38

about modeling we went through the uh

32:41

the recommendation to get kind of the

32:42

101 uh before doing kind of the 2011 in

32:45

fundamental edge analyst academy and we

32:48

talked through the coaching and pitch

32:49

review. Those are the most frequently

32:51

asked questions uh that we get. Um

32:55

yeah, I'd say that ties off usually the

32:57

FAQs.

33:02

Great.

33:06

Keep it uh keep it open for a few

33:08

seconds for any last questions. Other

33:11

other than that, I think we uh um gave a

33:15

relatively comprehensive overview. any

33:17

overlap with CQF Institute or not

33:20

really. Do you know what CQF Institute

33:23

is? I'm gonna have to Google this one.

33:26

>> Yeah, that's the uh certificate in

33:27

quantitative finance. Um I wouldn't

33:30

really I would say this is much more

33:32

fundamental analysis. um you know in a

33:36

simple way as I can put it uh

33:37

quantitative analysis uh more often than

33:40

not tends to uh view the world through

33:42

the lens of the future will tend to look

33:44

like the past and fundamental analysis

33:47

tends to view the world through the lens

33:49

of the future might not look like the

33:51

past. So uh I wouldn't say there's too

33:52

much overlap between the CQF certificate

33:54

and fundamental edge. With that said, I

33:56

don't have a full and complete knowledge

33:58

of uh all content taught by the CQF

34:01

institute. Yeah, we do run a factor

34:04

academy which is sort of answers a more

34:05

senior analyst question of like what is

34:07

a factor? So we spend about 25 hours

34:10

answering what is a factor uh factor

34:12

risk management factor risk models

34:14

factor rotations all of that. That's

34:17

typically not content a curriculum that

34:19

is the core focus of your first three

34:21

years on your de on the desk as a

34:23

fundamental investor. The first three

34:24

years on the desk is about creating an

34:27

idea engine, idea processing, due

34:29

diligence, modeling, differentiated

34:31

research, value added research, variant

34:34

perception, riskreward etc. Um so um I

34:38

think there's been a convergence of

34:40

quantitative and fundamental over time

34:41

which we talk about in other programs

34:43

but not really in the core analyst

34:44

academy. This is about the toolbox of

34:46

the fundamental investor. Thank you so

34:48

much. I hope to uh I hope to see we try

34:50

not to give the hard cell on this. This

34:52

is a program that's uh I think

34:55

engineered for a specific uh uh niche of

34:59

fundamental investors. Um and if that

35:02

sort of fits with your journey now or in

35:04

the future, uh we would be super

35:06

grateful uh to uh be a part of your be a

35:10

part of your learning journey. Um and uh

35:14

other than that, you can reach me or

35:16

Andrew. Um my email is BrettfundedEdge.

35:20

Andrew is Andrew at Fundamentedge

35:24

and uh hope to see some of you next

35:25

Tuesday for live kickoff. Thanks so

35:27

much.

Interactive Summary

The Analyst Academy, led by Brett Caughran and Andrew Carr at Fundamental Edge, is a comprehensive virtual training program designed for both entry-level and experienced buy-side equity analysts. It focuses on teaching a non-denominational, structured investment process that includes everything from fundamental analysis and financial modeling to building differentiated research and effective stock pitching. The program has recently expanded to integrate AI-augmented workflows, ensuring students are equipped for modern investment practices. Participants gain access to a 12-month digital curriculum, live office hours, guest masterclass speakers, and a growing community of investment professionals.

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