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All right. So, I

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mentioned last time webinar one

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um that it was a little bit longer than

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I had expected.

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Um and I went like 82 slides or

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something. I mentioned the next one

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would be shorter and I was completely

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wrong.

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I got really excited and built 102

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slides.

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Um so, we're probably not going to fit

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this all into an hour

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is the bad news. The good news is this

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will be recorded and recorded and

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dropped into um

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dropped onto YouTube and will be emailed

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out. If you're registered for the Zoom,

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you'll receive the an email with the

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deck.

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Um

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So, with that, I will go right into the

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slides. We will hold off all Q&A

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Q&A until the end. So, I initially

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labeled this um

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session up to speed with Claude Co-work.

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We're going to revise that a little bit.

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I'll get into the context

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uh context of why,

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um but we'll talk about a few tickers

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today. So, just disclaimer, you know,

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nothing is investment advice. And if you

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listen to a random guy on a webinar

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about uh stocks,

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there's probably more more more issues

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anyway. So, yeah, don't take anything as

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investment advice. Obviously, reminder

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of my background. I sort of come through

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I sort of come to this session one with

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many priors on the applied adaptation

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intersection of fundamental investing

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and really in the last 4 years more of a

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parallel experimentation with these

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tools. Um

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So, that's really the lens I come from,

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not from

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a technologist perspective by any means.

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I'm

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really not a technical person.

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But from someone who's really taken a

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lot of time to decompose decompose the

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workflows and sort of in my personal

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journey from you know, for 11 years I

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was in New York. I'm not pictured in

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this picture because I was likely at a

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hedge fund preparing for earning season.

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And so, I moved to Arizona 8 years ago

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and I just have more time to go through

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and experiment with these tools. I

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have sympathy for those of you who are

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trying to manage capital while also

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staying up with AI. It seems like an

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impossible task. I don't manage capital

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and it's very hard to stay stay up with

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with AI. I think a lot of what you'll

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see here comes from my historical

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priors, but just see AI experimentation

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journey that I've been on. I've sort of

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been looking around for experts who can

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teach me all these things and I'm like,

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well, there's no one. So, let's try to

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try to see what we can do about being

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the one-eyed man in the land of the

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blind and

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spent a lot of time a lot of hours in

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this space.

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A combo of things that have worked well

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for me if you're inspired on the same

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journey is you know, finding the right

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people on YouTube and Twitter to learn

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one

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learn from lots of conversations, a

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parallel experimentation which is sort

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of the the heart of our pedagogical

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approach in AI. Let's show the manual

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approach and then the AI approach. Some

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client engagements and as I'll show you

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today, I'm sort of serving as guinea pig

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with the mindset that, hey, I'm building

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a

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a portfolio

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to invest

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the same way that you know, AI can drive

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you now, can it help me ramp up a mock

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portfolio.

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Almost certainly can't do all of the

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elements of that process, but I'm in

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exploration of what elements it can it

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can do. And so,

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the the fun one someone pointed out

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Cunningham's law which is states that

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the best way to get the right answer is

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to post a wrong answer on the internet.

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And so, the reply guys all give me all

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sorts of

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great feedback, pushback, some

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often accurate. So, OX fuckarooie, thank

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you for pushing back on my tweet and

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pointing out something that was actually

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half right.

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So,

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you know, I've learned a lot just by

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conversations and DMs and being active

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on active on Twitter. One thing that um

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sort of the overarching concept that all

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builders in the space are struggling

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with right now is the bitter lesson the

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fact that building with building with AI

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right now

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is sort of a deeply

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sort of deeply bitter lesson

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pill example that the concepts that we

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taught in our AI Academy in September

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like retrieval augmented generation or

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really have been leapfrogged in new

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technologies and sort of been hearing a

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lot about this concept of the bitter

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lesson of AI engineering which is

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effectively that the scaffolding that

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people are building

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right now is just a temporary

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compensation for models that aren't yet

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smart enough and context windows that

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aren't yet big enough.

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We've seen all sorts of

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examples of this in

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all sorts of examples of this in um

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in AI whether it's vector databases and

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chunking or rag or OCR or prompt

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engineering mechanical tricks and

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and right now the hot thing is MCP is

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that next in terms of abstraction.

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There's a debate going on there as well,

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too. So, my sort of advice, you know, is

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to

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the 95% of of normies like me that

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aren't deeply technical is

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don't necessarily worry about setting up

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your Python environments and becoming

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master with IDEs and you know, getting a

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GitHub account and all all of this. My

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sort of belief I'm operating on some

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degree of faith that the bitter lesson

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will continue to to hold and that much

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of this engineering will become abstract

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rapidly and I'm seeing that today.

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You've seen it in vibe coding tools like

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Replit lovable.

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And you see it in in tools like my now

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favorite Perplexity computer which is

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really you know, deeply abstractive

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highly effective

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highly effective agent and I'm not

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sponsored by Perplexity.

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So,

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so also this just sort of helps me

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manage my existential angst to try and

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stay at the intersection of AI. I wake

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up sometimes and like, you know, am I

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going to be part of the permanent

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underclass? I better learn this AI

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thing. Um and so, really starting in the

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fall of September 24, we started with

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the cutting edge webinar hosting AI

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vendors. We ran a you know, 6-month

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guided cohort that finishes this month

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called AI for investment research with

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PMs and analysts.

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A lot of this now the red the reds

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crossed because a lot of these things

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are now decayed in terms of in terms of

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relevance. So, I'm going through the the

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rework process right now to figure out

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what's decayed, what holds and what the

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future looks like which is a little bit

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hubristic to say, but I'm going through

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the deep experimentation

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a process. A couple things

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to keep in mind on that.

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The world doesn't need another podcast,

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but apparently in this space it does and

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so, we'll be

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we with my friend KE be rolling out a

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podcast invest with AI

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soon in in June. We'll take some of

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these concepts we're talking about today

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and

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and put that into an accelerator sort of

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a guided structured implementation plan

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in a cohort structure to do this.

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So, that's a little bit of an intro and

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welcome.

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I want to talk today we're sort of the

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core today is to talk about how to get

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up to speed

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on a name. And I need to start with the

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concept that's widely discussed of the

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mosaic approach to investment research

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which sort of speaks to the fact that

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insights on companies don't come out of

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one single step. You know, almost never

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in my investment certainly never in my

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investment process have I just read the

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10K and developed a differentiated

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insight. An insight comes from the sort

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of complex ongoing building of a mosaic

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about companies and about stocks.

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And you don't necessarily know exactly

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what step of the process will develop

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that insight, but the combination

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[snorts]

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of covering companies closely

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sort of causes this formation of

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differentiated insights that you can

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invest with with conviction.

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And so, that's sort of a I think think

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hopefully non-controversial

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a concept, but I think important when

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you start to hear

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questions about what AI can do for

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investment process. You know, the sort

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of the belief is that, hey, we can go

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one shot this investment process and

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just you know, have AI give me a view on

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what to do. And almost certainly you're

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going to get slop out of this out of

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this output. You're going to get the

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fact that you know, the LLMs on a one

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shot basis are trained from the open

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web. You're sort of getting maybe speed

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to consensus which is sort of

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definitionally not not not helpful for

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for alpha generation. You're not going

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to get primary source contact and you

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know, the particular sort of you know,

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risk here is it is sort of sounds

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plausible. Sounds right.

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But then so, with no validation, this

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can be a very dangerous

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process. So, sometimes I talk to friends

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like, hey, I tried to use AI

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in my investment process and it didn't

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work. I'm like, well, what did you do?

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I'm like, well, I asked ChatGPT what

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they what it thought about this company.

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I'm like, well, yeah, that's not a very

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that's not an effective way

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to do it.

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Let's sort of talk talk about you know,

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building a system around around this.

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I'd say sort of other other notable

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thing is that a one shot approach is

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very likely to get you slop and in our

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high stakes career path,

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that's a real bad that's a really bad um

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outcome. You know, things that could

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happen. Hey, you you know, you want to

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do AI prep for a CEO meeting and you ask

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you know, CEO about a business line

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that's been discontinued for 18 months.

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Or this is a real story I heard. Someone

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did an AI news scraper and it said that

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Microsoft's revenue guidance was cut by

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10%. If you don't validate that output

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and you trade on that in the pre-market,

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that hallucination has a direct negative

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effect to P&L. Or for some reason, you

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know, all of the modeling workflows the

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the LLMs are highly obsessed with having

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a balance sheet balance, right? That's

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sort of seen as like the number one

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thing to do in a financial model. You

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know, my 150 models maybe only a handful

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do actually model out the balance sheet.

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We're focused mostly on the P&L and and

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key drivers. And so I've seen this in a

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few AI models where the numbers look

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right and the balance sheet balances,

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but the numbers when you actually go to

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validate them are

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or or or or or or or wrong. And so AI is

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designed to produce plausible sounding

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uh plausible sounding output. So I say

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above all, what we're trying to do here

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is we're trying to optimize for rigor,

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trying to build a system around that.

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You know, I'm I'm sort of work operating

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in this framework of a like-for-like 60

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hours. I don't think the play here,

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personally, is about cutting head count

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right now. It's about in 60 hours,

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right, finding a richer signal, right?

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If I'm doing looking at a name, if I'm

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looking at Danaher in the manual

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approach or in an augmented approach,

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after 60 hours, what outcome gives me a

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more rigorous, comprehensive

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understanding of the business? That's

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the sort of the North Star for me. And

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so that can include, you know, we that

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could be the exoskeleton mosaic, some of

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the old manual processes that you did,

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but it could also be layering in

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thoughtfully AI augmented pro pro pro

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pro pro processes. Why is this

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important? I think a lot of the fear

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about what AI will do to the investment

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process still operates under the old

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paradigm of markets, that markets are

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beat

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based on better information, right? You

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know something that others don't know.

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Uh whether it's all data or the

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democratization of in in information on

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the internet, you know, this has been a

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compressing alpha pool. Almost never do

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I have I sort of been in a situation in

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the last 10 years where I feel like, oh,

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I found one singular piece of

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information that is a source of my alpha

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in a name. Almost always is some

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combination of behavioral and integrated

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perception, right? Hey, the all these

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SaaS stocks sell off because of cloud

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fears, uh you know, these five that

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might be legitimate, but these five have

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some sort of element because I know the

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industry better, the market's freaking

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out. I have sort of developed this

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worldview by covering the space more

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effectively. I'm going to invest because

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there's a meaningful discount to

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intrinsic value. And so, you know, I

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think, you know, you you heard it from a

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number of angles, but there I think

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there's, you know, market microstructure

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considerations why markets are more

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inefficient than ever. They sort of jump

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from crisis to crisis and overreact on

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the upside and downside.

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And so fundamentally, that's an

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alpha-rich environment for behavioral

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and perception alpha, not necessarily

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for informational. And so if the fear is

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I can go figure out this information in

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a chatbot, there's all sorts of reasons

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I think there's flaw flaw in that logic.

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Uh that's really not the game we're game

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we're playing. The more interesting path

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is if I take 60 hours in a name, right,

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what's my like-for-like? So in the past,

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it might take me 60 hours to really get

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up to speed on a name, maybe doing a

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little bit of primary research. But if I

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can find a way to accelerate these

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mechanical approaches, right, take this

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60 hours down to 20, right? That doesn't

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mean that I'm leaving the desk at 2:00

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p.m. in the afternoon uh to go play

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tennis. It means that, hey, I've got 40

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hours left that I can redeploy to

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optimize my rigor and comprehension in

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this name. So how do we redeploy that

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time that time saved? Um I think there's

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a combination of things. Some of it's

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just the good old-fashioned scuttlebutt

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primary research. There's a number of

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other AI augmented deep dive workflows.

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There's I think all sorts of, you know,

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concepts out there that people are

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talking about AI. One is that AI is

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great for breadth, but not depth. I

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think that's true. Chatbot's not of

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agents. I very much disagree disagree

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with that on agents. There's there's I

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think a number of working sort of

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emerging workflows that can really help

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you go much much deeper,

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uh much much deeper. A simple example

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would be learning about a product. I can

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spin up an AI survey, uh AI web

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scrapers, you know, a deep deep research

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report on a product. I could I could

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create much more rigorous understanding

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with an AI process about a company's

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product than I could uh sort of the

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manual manual way. And so I think

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finding ways to deploy new workflows

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to go deep, again with the objective of

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we're enhancing or enhancing rigor.

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>> [snorts]

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>> I think in the past, we're going to talk

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about the two fundamental workflows of

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up-to-speed and in the flow today. One

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of the things that that chatbots

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couldn't do is they could you couldn't

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build an automated tracker. You couldn't

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identify the one thing, you know, the

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key thing, the key drivers, risk

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factors, et cetera, and track those

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autonomously. Uh now you can. Um so the

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other thing that people will say is, you

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know, LLMs don't have judgment. And and

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a stateless chatbot certainly doesn't

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have judgment, but I think the agentic

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approaches that you can wrap around uh

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the PM sort of applying the judgment. Um

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in my sort of hypothesis can certainly

14:28

rate raise batting average, raise

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slugging percentage, eliminate big

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losers more as well, too. So I I sort of

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feel like a crazy person

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um lately. I hope for many of those many

14:40

of of you watching this, you followed

14:42

some of my stuff on Twitter over the

14:43

years to sort of know that I wasn't a a

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day one AI maximalist by any means. I've

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probably probably more cautious on these

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tools up until 6 weeks ago

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uh than average. Uh but I'm trying to

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just move with the flow of the things I

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see, move with the feedback of the

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outputs that I that I see. And um I'm

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really excited about what's possible. So

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I'm excited to be able to share a couple

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things with you today. I think the other

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thing I would note

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when you talk about using the tools is

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investment process is is sort of

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definitionally hetero geneous, right?

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Whether you're at a long-only that focus

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on business quality, deep focus on

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management, that's going to be a much

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different design system design than if

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you're a multi-manager that's highly

15:27

focused on the earnings motion, focused

15:29

on many management management touch

15:31

touch points for in for inflection. Same

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thing is the core part as we talked

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about last week is not to take, you

15:37

know, everything I'm showing you as your

15:39

core operating system, uh but to think

15:42

about building your own exoskeleton,

15:44

right? And that's the sort of the

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workflow that I'll I'll walk you through

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walk you through today.

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With the sort of core prior that I have

15:52

having worked with many great investors,

15:54

is that there is a very close

15:56

correlation to comprehension, business

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comprehension. Um you know, my prior is

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certainly that the best investors I've

16:02

worked with, you know, know their

16:04

companies the best, right? They sort of

16:05

deeply understand how decisions are made

16:08

and the competitive dynamic.

16:10

And so, you know, we could one-shot, you

16:13

know, a thesis uh in AI, but that's not

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going to drive deep comprehension of the

16:18

company, right? We we're we're

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optimizing for the closed-book test

16:22

where I can sort of sit there and

16:23

explain how how the how the business

16:25

makes money, the deep nuance of the

16:27

business. And so the question is, how do

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we drive deeper comprehension in the

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same

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the same same time window? Why does

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comprehension matter? I mean, you get

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into situations where if you have weak

16:36

comprehension, you know, you're sort of

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pulled by the nose of the shifting

16:40

sentiment of the market, right? Hey,

16:42

Morgan Stanley said this could be bad, I

16:43

better sell, right? You're you're

16:45

listening to the noise

16:47

and you're being buffeted by the noise.

16:50

The best investors are not buffeted by

16:52

the noise. They in in in fact arbitrage

16:54

the noise. They have strong

16:55

comprehension. They say, okay, the

16:56

market's freaking out about this thing,

16:58

that's stupid. I can't believe Morgan

17:00

Stanley think that thinks that's an

17:01

issue. No shade to Morgan Stanley, this

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is hypothetical.

17:04

You know, stock's off 9% on that, I'm

17:06

going to buy the stock, right? And so

17:08

that requires a baseline level of

17:09

comprehension.

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Um

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you know, either on an oversell or, hey,

17:13

there's something emerging coming down

17:15

the pipe that this could be a this could

17:17

be a real this could be a real issue. Um

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uh this could be a real uh a a real

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issue, right? And so I would say in

17:24

general, um you know, AI sort of on a

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one-shot uh basis is a um is an enemy of

17:32

comprehension. And so I think being

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careful to build a system around this is

17:36

really really important, probably one of

17:37

the most important things that, you

17:39

know, I would I would take as as

17:41

takeaways. Um I sort of tell the tell

17:43

the lived experience story of my of my

17:46

middle school son that I encourage him

17:48

to use more AI only to find out that he

17:50

was just sort of speed-running his

17:52

homework and when test time came, things

17:55

didn't go well. So we had to have

17:56

another conversation and say, hey, we

17:59

want to use AI as a tutor, right? It

18:00

sort of checks your work, you did it

18:02

yourself,

18:03

uh give you some extra questions, test

18:05

prep, et cetera. And so this is sort of

18:07

a a rubric to me or a framework to me

18:09

that matters to to investing, right? We

18:11

can either AI a bad process or you can

18:13

AI in a good process.

18:15

And AI is really a force multiplier. It

18:17

can it can help you be lazy, uh it can

18:19

help you speed-run something that looks

18:21

close, um or it can really help you, you

18:25

know, develop much more rigorous

18:27

rigorous work. And so the one thing I

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know for sure is that we all have the

18:31

same pie of time in a year. We have the

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same roughly 3,000 hours. And so the

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question is, if I if there's a lot of

18:39

things sort of mechanical processes in

18:40

these 3,000 hours today, and I can trim

18:43

down that time, do I have more time for

18:45

value value-added work? This is

18:47

Investing is incredibly competitive game

18:49

of poker, and so optimizing that

18:51

um seems likely to me to be, you know,

18:54

helpful to the invest invest investment

18:55

process. I'm also starting to tie a

18:57

little bit of this back to, you know,

18:59

sort of the the core objective we should

19:01

all

19:01

be focused on, which I think gets gets

19:03

lost in, you know, the open claw AI

19:07

productivity theater a bit, that the

19:09

core question is, you know, we're

19:11

spending a lot of time talking about

19:12

this, talking about these tools. How can

19:14

we actually use these tools in these

19:16

processes to drive better performance

19:18

for our investors? Whether that's

19:20

eliminating big losers or

19:22

finding more big winners or better

19:24

batting average, entry/exit timing,

19:25

better sizing. And so in some of my

19:27

work, I'm going to take some of this

19:28

from conceptual back down to

19:31

um really trying to tie this to um tie

19:33

this to um

19:34

uh tie the tie this to performance. I

19:36

also sort of think, you know, it's it's

19:38

very philosophical. The question is, you

19:40

know, are we are we cooked as investors?

19:43

My general sort of prior belief is that

19:45

there is this sort of, you know, alpha

19:47

window hypothesis. I take this from the

19:49

alt data sort of experience that alt

19:51

data was a sort of a a nice driver of

19:54

alpha for a window and then it became it

19:56

moved from alpha to beta.

19:59

I think also institutional capital flows

20:00

are pro-cyclical. So, the time whether

20:02

it's 5 to 7 years

20:04

where you can adopt this in your

20:05

investment process and drive better

20:07

results is that drive more capital

20:08

inflow and winners can lean into

20:10

advantage and push the alpha frontier

20:12

which sort of always been the prior in

20:14

investing. Does it eventually compress

20:16

as markets adapt? Possibly. I think one

20:19

thing that is on the side of fundamental

20:21

investors is our craft has been under

20:23

pressure a bit. Capital flows into

20:25

indexers,

20:26

quants, and retail's non-fundamental

20:29

investing sort of actually creates could

20:32

sort of extend that window for us. So, I

20:34

actually think that the more I think

20:36

about this, I think it's a wonderful

20:37

time to be starting a career in

20:39

fundamental investing. The tools the

20:41

tools are better and the setup for alpha

20:43

generation because of these market

20:45

microstructure considerations are are

20:47

helpful. Now, so I'll stop beating that

20:49

drum and we'll get into the real

20:50

question of how AI will change

20:52

fundamental investing. Before we talk

20:54

about exoskeleton,

20:56

let's just talk a little bit about

20:57

skeleton. I think one of the things

20:58

that's really helpful as you think about

21:02

sort of deploying AI is to think about

21:04

your research process, right? And one of

21:06

the core things I want to show you today

21:09

is this

21:11

sort of workflow context and how helpful

21:14

how much leverage there is in developing

21:16

workflow context. What does that mean?

21:17

It's just writing what you do and why

21:19

why you do it. And so, I'll show you a

21:21

few things that we use in our analyst

21:23

academy as as context. I sort of think

21:25

about you know, the the investment

21:27

process as two arcs. I think about it as

21:29

a thesis development arc, right? Kind of

21:31

the up-to-speed from from idea to

21:34

thesis, right? And then I think about

21:36

the as the active position management.

21:38

So, once the idea is in the book, what

21:40

do I do then, right? You know, how do I

21:42

monitor the catalysts and earnings and

21:44

management touchpoints and news and news

21:46

and event navigation. This is more of a

21:48

deeply Bayesian deeply tracking focused.

21:52

And I think when you think about

21:53

deploying AI, these are two separate

21:55

buckets in a way that have sort of

21:58

different benchmarks on data accuracy

22:00

for sure. Part of the reason that so

22:02

much of the focus has been on the thesis

22:04

development arc or the up-to-speed

22:07

up-to-speed process, as we'll call it

22:09

today, is that there's a natural

22:11

validation loop, right? If I'm sort of

22:13

thinking about populating a portfolio of

22:15

30 ideas from 3,000, right? A lot of

22:18

this process is just a winnowing of

22:20

ideas is qualifying or disqualifying

22:22

names. And so, this is great. You know,

22:24

AI hallucinates, but AI also could be

22:28

highly effective for the sort of

22:29

winnowing process. I don't put a name in

22:32

the portfolio without you know, human

22:35

human level validation, but if I can

22:37

turn over many more stones, I can

22:39

ultimately drive a portfolio that's sort

22:41

of more rigorous

22:43

with

22:44

sort of more compelling ideas. So, I

22:45

think sort of version 1.0 of our

22:47

curriculum has pointed people more

22:49

towards trying to drive efficiency in

22:51

this idea generation or hypothesis

22:53

formation, right? So, for those of you

22:55

that were in the AI academy in

22:57

September, that's where we spend a lot

22:59

of time. Partly because chatbots had

23:00

fundamental limitations fundamental

23:03

limitations. So, you know, the two

23:05

fundamental workflows

23:07

of up-to-speed and in the flow, you

23:10

know, the up-to-speed is more of a

23:11

triage function a little bit. Certainly

23:13

the early steps in in the triage triage

23:17

function. The in the flow is a little

23:18

bit more of a you know, Bayesian or edge

23:20

function where if you're wrong and

23:23

hallucination is much more expensive on

23:25

an in the flow function that drives a

23:28

training outcome, right? Which is also

23:30

why you see a really notable delineation

23:33

in adoption in AI between generalists

23:36

and specialists. My friends who run

23:38

small under-resourced generalist funds

23:41

have adopted AI to a degree that's much

23:44

more dramatic than my friends who were

23:46

at large well-resourced specialist

23:48

funds, which is sort of the flip of what

23:50

you might think. But if you really think

23:52

about it, it makes sense, right? A

23:53

generalist is looking at 3,000 ideas. A

23:56

lot of the workflow of a generalist is

23:58

this triage up-to-speed function, right?

24:00

Then you have a portfolio where you're

24:01

maintaining that.

24:03

The typical well-resourced institutional

24:06

manager, you know, you have analysts

24:08

who've covered healthcare for 10 years.

24:10

They're not reading the 10K for the

24:12

first time. They know these companies

24:13

intimately. A lot of the flow is active

24:16

coverage, right? It's the daily blocking

24:19

and tackling of news and earnings and

24:21

calls and panels etc.

24:25

And chatbots were really not good for

24:27

that, right? The bar for in the flow is

24:29

much higher. Again, we sort of put all

24:32

these workflows into red green light not

24:34

to not to say that a red light can't be

24:36

turned green light with a proper with a

24:38

good system, but in general, we've seen

24:40

a lot more red red red lights in our in

24:43

the flow, right? News monitoring, right?

24:45

If I want to take an AI agent and have

24:47

it distill my inbox in the morning, it

24:50

had better be right. There better not be

24:52

hallucinations because if I see

24:53

something, I might go trade that in the

24:55

pre where there's not a lot of liquid

24:57

liquidity. Whereas if I see a

24:59

hallucination in a quick story or a

25:00

sniff test, by the time I'm doing the

25:02

full ramp, I have a validation workflow

25:04

to go back and check those numbers,

25:06

right? So, there's a natural prevention

25:09

mechanism

25:11

of any errors reaching reaching

25:13

portfolio, which is not true if I'm

25:15

trying to say, "Hey, you know, hey

25:17

ChatGPT, here's the earnings press

25:19

release. Should I buy or sell the stock

25:21

at the open?" Like that that's not a

25:22

workflow that should be

25:25

should be

25:26

adopted adopted easily. So, I think

25:28

people have you know, even the large

25:30

funds have you know, sort of

25:33

adopted the chatbot architecture. People

25:36

are sort of reworking that now for

25:37

agentic architecture, but the in the

25:39

flow architecture probably has more of a

25:43

an alpha there's more of an alpha

25:44

opportunity there for sure versus an

25:46

efficiency opportunity in the in the

25:48

up-to-speed. So, this is where I'm sort

25:50

of like going crazy now because

25:53

it's just like wow, like this is the

25:54

pieces are there. It's not still not

25:55

perfect that yet, but some of these

25:57

things that were purely conceptual. So,

25:59

we'll be back more on the in the flow

26:01

stuff. That's where we're doing

26:03

having some interesting client

26:05

conversations. But today we'll talk

26:07

mostly about the up the flow up-to-speed

26:10

triage consideration and I'll start by

26:13

just telling a story about Bayer, which

26:16

is you know, a

26:17

European pharmaceutical company. I

26:19

looked at this name 10 years ago, 8

26:22

years ago, something like that and as a

26:24

potential long. And the idea was there

26:27

was an acquisition of Monsanto. I did a

26:29

little bit of sketch pro forma analysis

26:32

and it was like five times earnings on a

26:34

pro forma. I'm like, this is like pretty

26:36

you know, pretty interesting, pretty

26:37

cheap if these numbers hit and the

26:39

synergies synergies hit. I thought,

26:41

okay, put a 10 multiple on that in 18

26:43

months, it's a overly hated, it's a

26:45

double, right? So, let me go sort of do

26:47

some due diligence on this name.

26:49

Well, fast forward 6 days later,

26:52

right? I had sort of uncovered a few red

26:53

flags, a bigger glyphosate roundup

26:56

issue, you know, messy messy regulatory

26:58

gauntlet to get the deal done and sort

27:01

of a belief that it wasn't the right

27:03

management team to to to drive it

27:04

forward. So, it sort of went in the two

27:06

too hard bucket for me. I passed. I

27:07

didn't lose money. I didn't didn't trade

27:09

the stock.

27:11

But the the sort of negative thing is

27:14

that, you know, I I took 60 hours out of

27:17

this 3,000 hours, right? I could have

27:19

spent that time doing something

27:22

different, right? So, the largest

27:23

negative impact of Bayer was a 60 hours

27:25

of lost non-compounding research time.

27:28

And so, I sort of go back to some of

27:30

these experiences in my career as I what

27:32

how could I have killed this situation

27:34

earlier, right? The accelerated tree

27:37

triage concept of front-end exclusions,

27:40

risk checklist, patterns and priors. You

27:42

know, if you're an analyst, hey, will my

27:43

PM own this? I was a PM in that

27:45

situation. How could I prevent the Bayer

27:48

AG issue from from occurring and design

27:50

a process around that. And listen, like

27:52

you get a few of these a year, it's

27:54

fine, but if they this year becomes a

27:56

recurring pattern as an analyst or a PM,

27:58

then you're constantly working on ideas

28:00

for two, three days, four, five days,

28:02

two, three weeks and then killing them

28:05

mid-process, all of a sudden your idea

28:07

velocity is not what it needs to be to

28:09

to to sustain alpha ideas in a in a

28:12

portfolio. So, this is sort of a simple

28:15

workflow. It's like, how can you start?

28:16

How can you you know,

28:18

start with risk? One of the things we

28:19

show in analyst academy is a is a

28:21

investment checklist that I developed

28:23

over over my career. And what are the

28:25

disqualifiers, right? Could be cyclical

28:27

demand peaks or peak margins or

28:29

aggressive accounting standards. Pretty

28:30

easy to to build a checklist and turn

28:32

this into a front-end screener to really

28:35

give you the go or no go, right? Could I

28:37

have spent, you know, 30 minutes on on

28:39

Bayer, seen some of these issues, and

28:41

gave it a red light and save, you know,

28:43

59 and a half 59 and a half hours,

28:46

right? And so, that's those are sort of

28:48

just some interesting workflow concepts

28:50

that I think

28:52

I'm thinking through in terms of how to

28:55

get the most out of new out of new

28:57

systems. The most exciting thing to me

29:00

in the last few weeks is with the

29:02

evolutions from chatbots to agents,

29:05

what's possible in terms of the concept

29:07

of a new investor dashboard, right? And

29:10

so, one of the very

29:11

sort of

29:12

challenging points of chatbots was how

29:14

cumbersome they were to use. I had 306

29:17

prompts. I had to figure out when to use

29:20

the right prompt in the right situation,

29:22

where to store my prompts. I had to

29:24

upload K's and Q's in the ChatGPT

29:26

project. You could sort of pick one

29:29

specific workflow and you could see an

29:31

interesting output, but that workflow

29:33

certainly did not scale. And it

29:36

certainly did not scale across a hundred

29:38

investor investment team. Even now what

29:40

I see in most clients is of a hundred

29:42

investors, you have three or four people

29:44

who are really down the rabbit hole and

29:46

IDEs building stuff with cod code,

29:47

custom dashboards,

29:49

open cod doing crazy things. And the

29:52

other 97 people are like, "Hey, I'm

29:53

still trying to figure this out, right?"

29:55

And so the the interesting thing to me

29:57

is now with agents is building

29:59

ecosystems around a new investor

30:01

dashboard, right? To have, you know, a

30:04

new I was sort of like very anti when

30:06

people say like, you know, kill the

30:07

Bloomberg launchpad. I'm like, that's

30:08

probably not going to happen.

30:10

The more I think about some of these

30:12

workflows and see what's happening, I

30:13

think there is an opportunity for a

30:14

single pane of glass and a new investor

30:16

dashboard where you can sort of pick

30:18

these different workflows, right? I

30:20

don't have to prompt this. I don't have

30:21

to build the skills. I don't have to,

30:24

you know, think about the uploading the

30:25

data, right? This can be done on the

30:28

back end either through a, you know,

30:30

subscribing to a vendor or with I think

30:33

increasingly easy engineering

30:35

capabilities to do this in-house. You

30:37

know, all of this gets abstracted away.

30:39

The The analyst doesn't even see the

30:40

skills architecture, has to learn prompt

30:42

prompt prompt engineering, right? And so

30:44

my my hypothesis is that if you're an

30:47

investor, don't go too far down the

30:48

rabbit hole of learning all of these

30:49

technical elements, that time might be

30:52

better spent thinking about your data

30:54

architecture and your workflow

30:56

architecture rather than the

30:58

engineering. I may or may not That's a

30:59

hypothesis I may or may not be right on

31:01

that. But the sort of the simple

31:03

workflow of each of these individual

31:05

workflows can be supported by a data

31:08

architecture and a workflow architecture

31:10

via the

31:11

via skills and prompts. And all I have

31:13

to do is press a button. Right? I was

31:15

joking with a friend today, you have an

31:17

analyst your PM asks, "Why is the stock

31:18

down 5% today?" Well, I can just press a

31:21

button now, right? And I can pull in

31:23

positioning and factors and sentiment

31:25

macro betas and all this sort of context

31:28

architecture that I support each of

31:30

those flows, right? It starts to get

31:31

pretty scary in terms of

31:34

what's what's what's possible. I didn't

31:35

think that this was something I'd be

31:37

talking about in April of 2026 until I

31:41

found I was able to build, update, and

31:42

validate models pretty well in in an

31:45

agentic work work platform. Um so I

31:47

think this is the This is the concept

31:49

that I

31:50

um

31:51

uh would encourage you to think about

31:52

certainly if any of any of you are from

31:54

firms that are building architecture.

31:56

Uh the prior very much has been over the

31:59

last 36 months almost everything that

32:01

has been built in-house has been

32:02

abstracted away.

32:04

Has been sort of thrown in the waste

32:05

bin. Um and so 36 months and millions of

32:08

dollars of engineering

32:11

um

32:12

has been uh has sort of uh been

32:14

leapfrogged by some of these agentic

32:15

systems. It's probably a little bit of a

32:17

uh little bit of a

32:19

um overreaction, but the bitter lesson I

32:22

think holds is that the scaffolding that

32:23

people are building has been uh just

32:25

temporary compensation for models.

32:27

Simple things like OCR, optical

32:29

character recognition, which was

32:30

required to pull accurate numbers from a

32:32

PDF, but now that's a solved problem or

32:35

or close to a solved problem with MCP.

32:37

Um so that's my That's my just

32:39

observation having, you know, paid paid

32:42

close attention. And that the active,

32:46

you know, call and response chat

32:47

dynamics or will shift more towards

32:49

passive research so that I have more

32:50

dashboards and buttons to push. Um

32:54

That'll be a decision dashboard, a

32:55

single pane of glass with all this whole

32:57

context architecture

32:58

supporting that. That's really important

33:00

to me when you start to think about

33:02

enterprise adoption sort of across

33:04

teams. It's not one or two people in an

33:06

IDE building building dashboards.

33:10

Um that is very hard to scale across

33:12

investment teams. It's, you know,

33:15

a team sort of figures out a dashboard

33:17

that helps them communicate. That is a

33:20

is really a works a new workspace that

33:22

has the you research management system

33:23

plugged in and factor models plugged in

33:25

and everything in it. It's sort of the

33:26

new new dashboard. It would be wonderful

33:29

if Bloomberg could do that. Um

33:32

you know, I think Bloomberg is now

33:33

getting to a point it seems in their

33:34

tool where most of the other tools were

33:36

18 months ago. Um so I'm guessing they

33:38

won't they won't work fast enough to uh

33:41

to sort of sort of build this. All

33:43

right, so that's my soapbox on

33:45

um soapbox on uh on tools.

33:49

Um let's get into up to

33:51

up to speed. So again, this is sort of a

33:53

a gating structure, right? If I look at

33:56

an interesting idea, right? Uh I don't

33:59

want to just go start and spend 60

34:02

hours, right? I don't want to start by

34:04

building a full 12-hour model. Again,

34:06

I'm trying to think about a gating

34:08

structure

34:09

of what's the story here. Just sort of a

34:11

quick check. If that's compelling, let

34:14

me put it on my active lesson go spend,

34:16

you know, two, three, four hours. We

34:17

have called we call it the sniff test in

34:19

Analyst Academy, right? Those are sort

34:21

of the, you know, the front end

34:23

qualifying or disqualifying an idea. If

34:26

these are interesting, right? I'll put

34:28

those on the active workflow to hey, let

34:30

me get up to speed and let me do sort of

34:33

the full full full full full ramp,

34:34

right? The full refresh. A refresh would

34:36

be, "Hey, I've covered this name in the

34:38

past. I know I don't need to start from

34:39

scratch, but I need to get up to speed

34:41

on what's happened over the last four

34:42

years." Or full ramp, I have no idea

34:44

what this business does. I need to go

34:46

spend two, three, four weeks

34:48

on on on the idea. So each level sort of

34:50

a commitment decision. Uh this is not

34:52

AI. This is just core workflow

34:54

decomposition um that we teach in

34:57

Analyst Academy.

35:00

All right. So let me be a guinea pig.

35:03

I'll sort of lay lay lay it out for you.

35:04

I retired from managing money in August

35:06

2021 to do what I'm doing now.

35:09

Um

35:10

and my Turing test, you know, and

35:12

listen, I covered a highly complex

35:14

space. There's always a lot going on in

35:17

healthcare services names.

35:19

Um these are names that aren't your buy

35:20

and hold, you know, long Amazon forever

35:23

sort of thing. You know, things move

35:25

rapidly. So I didn't have an actively

35:27

traded the space just cuz the bar to

35:28

stay up to speed is

35:30

uh is very high. So my Turing test sort

35:33

sort of self-assigned Turing test is,

35:35

can I construct a portfolio I could

35:37

pitch you a biz dev team

35:39

of, you know, HR people at a

35:41

multi-manager and I could I convince

35:42

them that I'm prepared So I'm not going

35:44

to do that, but it's sort of my litmus

35:46

test of do I feel like I could walk into

35:48

an interview and and do a portfolio uh

35:51

portfolio review from from 157 57 names

35:54

talking about, you know, the businesses

35:56

um

35:57

uh the business businesses um etc. Um do

36:01

you think there are some like maybe some

36:03

uh you know, re-emergence of

36:04

quantamental things um for all the

36:08

reasons of the long list of reasons

36:10

quantamental strategies never really

36:12

took off for the last 15 years. I think

36:14

some of this maybe addresses

36:16

some of that. That's So this is a little

36:18

bit of skunk works on that. Uh but for

36:20

the most part, you know, think of think

36:22

of think of me as a as a as as a guinea

36:24

pig uh covering, you know, 157 stocks um

36:29

that trade let you know, trade over 10

36:30

million AUM a day and to in developed

36:33

markets. In each of these names, I'm

36:35

basically trying to figure out, you

36:36

know, I want to be able to explain the

36:38

business, articulate the setup, deliver

36:40

the thesis, identify the three key

36:42

drivers, two key risk factors,

36:43

differentiation risk reward, right? As a

36:46

DOR, if I'm interviewing a PM, I'm going

36:48

through drilling down every name. Hey,

36:50

you say you're long Danaher, tell me,

36:51

what's the business do? Why do you like

36:53

it? What's happening? What work have you

36:54

done? Etc. What's the upside? And so the

36:57

the interviewer the DOR interviewer is

37:00

pushing hard on those ideas. Right now,

37:02

I would completely fail that test. So

37:03

that's sort of my That's sort of my

37:05

test. So I'm getting my my coverage and

37:06

comp sheet fired back up. Um just to

37:10

sort of see the different metrics. This

37:12

is not AI generated. This is built in

37:13

FactSet. I'm getting my portfolio back

37:16

up. This is not AI generated. This is

37:17

built This is built in FactSet. Just

37:19

sort of looking at, you know, what the

37:20

stocks have done, etc.

37:22

Um

37:24

And the really the measure of a sector

37:25

PM to me, if you walk into any of the

37:27

multi-managers to a high-performing PM,

37:30

they're going to be able to look at all

37:32

all these 157 names and they're going to

37:34

know them cold, right? If I say, "Brad,

37:36

tell me about Teleflex. Like what does

37:38

the business do? What's been happening?"

37:40

At my peak, I could tell you I could

37:42

tell you about all 150 names, right? Um

37:45

you know, 75 really well, 75 like ish.

37:48

Um

37:49

And then they sort of take that business

37:51

knowledge and they're able to apply

37:52

pattern sense and, you know, mar pattern

37:55

market sense and pattern recognition and

37:56

judgment to build a portfolio out of

37:58

that name. But that you don't you don't

38:01

leap to that sort of alpha element. You

38:03

start with the grounding of knowing your

38:06

companies cold, right? Particularly as

38:08

you build a portfolio and you hire

38:10

analysts and junior PMs to cover 50

38:13

names, their job is to know their those

38:15

50 names better than than than than than

38:18

everyone. And once you're up to speed on

38:20

those names, you should be able to look

38:21

at the coverage and explain every move.

38:23

This is the year-to-date move. I should

38:24

be able to explain why Acadia is up, you

38:27

know, 70% year-to-date and, you know,

38:29

why Baxter's down 13%. Again, at my peak

38:32

I couldn't, uh but I'm trying to see how

38:33

how I could. Uh I'm trying to see uh how

38:37

close I can get with this AI-augmented

38:38

process. Not necessarily have a thesis

38:40

on all 157, but I think in general,

38:42

you know, uh you you know 30 to 45 with

38:45

incredible depth, a 10 by 15 portfolio,

38:47

and another 10 to 15 in the pipeline cuz

38:50

you always need constant constant ideas.

38:52

And then the other thing is sort of be

38:54

able to understand your thematic

38:56

thematic expression chips. Which stocks

38:59

are an expression of various viewpoints?

39:01

Such that when you're looking at this,

39:03

you know, on a day why things are

39:05

moving, you could sort of explain in

39:07

your mind, "Oh, that makes sense. These

39:09

stocks are moving cuz they're interest

39:10

rate levered. They're levered to the,

39:13

you know, ACA exchange, trying to be BP,

39:15

etc." And so you start to get a sense of

39:17

why stocks are moving. That's important

39:19

because you're trying to arbitrage

39:20

incorrect moves as a high-velocity

39:22

high-velocity PM. That's probably a

39:24

little bit too much inside baseball. So

39:26

I'd say I have a little bit of advantage

39:27

here, you know, because the historical

39:29

context will will

39:31

will will will will will help me. Um I'm

39:33

also going to do this in a small-cap

39:34

generalist long only at some point, but

39:36

I'm starting here. I'm starting I'm

39:37

starting here.

39:38

Um So can I ramp, you know, coverage on

39:40

157 names, refresh on names I knew, full

39:43

ramp. Can I update the models? I have

39:46

some of these models.

39:47

Many are 4 years out of date. I've

39:49

always sort of had these eval set of AI

39:52

tools since 2022 with things I'm like

39:55

there's no way there's no way that, you

39:58

know, the tool can do this. One of one

39:59

of them is I give my Uber model that's

40:01

four quarters out of date and a little

40:02

messy and I just say update this model

40:04

and it's like never worked until

40:06

recently. And so, can I take my 4-year

40:09

models out of date? The build from

40:11

scratch is still getting there a little

40:13

bit. You have to chunk it down a little

40:15

bit. We'll talk about that in our April

40:17

April 30th. But my belief is that as

40:20

intelligence improves and the MCP

40:22

systems have helped a lot in terms of

40:23

accuracy there

40:25

that I could be able to have a few dozen

40:27

fresh builds and then I think the real

40:28

alpha is in creating the tracking

40:30

systems for for every for all 157 names

40:33

can I

40:35

sort of in partnership determine what's

40:36

the number one thing for each each of

40:38

the ideas, the three key driver, two key

40:40

risk factors, catalyst path, trading

40:42

plan, thesis creep plan, data dashboard,

40:44

sentiment narrative and thematic

40:46

linkage, right? And so this is really

40:48

the structure. Again, I you know, sort

40:50

of back to the back to the 10 1090

40:55

of active coverage.

40:57

Specialists haven't found a lot of use

40:59

case

41:00

in AI tools because chatbots were very

41:04

helpful helpful-ish to get up to speed.

41:07

But I'm not really getting up to speed

41:09

on the in this use case I am, but at my

41:11

peak I'm not. Like I don't need I don't

41:13

need ChatGPT to summarize a 10K on HCA

41:16

when I know that company incredibly

41:17

well, right? But this 90% of active

41:20

coverage having another set of eyes on

41:23

all of these things which will make or

41:25

break stocks. Now we're talking, right?

41:27

Now we're talking about something very

41:29

helpful.

41:30

As we go through this

41:32

you know, sort of know the the

41:33

importance of context. Like some of

41:34

these spit out you know, the number one

41:37

thing or three key drivers I completely

41:39

agree with. Others don't, right? Like on

41:41

GE Healthcare it said that the business

41:44

is 13% of revenue was the number one

41:45

thing. I'm like no, no, no.

41:47

So it does require some debugging the

41:50

same way that

41:52

coding agents require debugging, right?

41:54

And so that's

41:55

that's

41:56

um

41:57

those are a few thoughts on that. All

41:58

right, so I want to get up to speed on

42:00

Danaher. I'm sort of picking Danaher in

42:01

this situation because I haven't looked

42:03

at I used to own it.

42:05

I haven't looked at it in maybe eight

42:07

years or something.

42:09

How can I get up to speed on the

42:11

investment situation? What's the old way

42:12

to do it? I've sort of always been a fan

42:14

of the Pomodoro

42:15

method, break it down. I have these all

42:18

over my house and office. Okay, I'm

42:20

going to spend, you know, 60 hours

42:21

reading the relevant sections of the

42:23

10K, the last four earnings transcripts,

42:25

conference transcripts, stack of

42:27

sell-side research. That's 68 hours and

42:28

I'll go update my model and maybe I'm

42:31

spending 12 hours just kind of get the

42:33

full full refresh, right? So I sort of

42:36

feel like I know the name. I know the

42:38

story. I know what management's been

42:40

saying.

42:41

And that's a big task across 150 names,

42:43

right? Not that hard across Danaher.

42:46

But I there's 90 names I need to do that

42:48

on, right? There's 60 names in this 157

42:51

that are like brand new to me. Like I I

42:53

don't remember seeing that name. I never

42:54

looked at GE Healthcare because it was a

42:56

spin and so okay, that's interesting. I

42:58

should go

42:59

take a look at it. I need to do the full

43:00

40 hours. I need to go update my models

43:03

for 6 hours and build some new models.

43:05

You start to add this up and if you if

43:07

you compare that to the 3,000 hours we

43:10

have in a year

43:12

right? That requires 4,740

43:15

hours to really get up to speed and know

43:18

my names know my names well, right? I'm

43:21

I'm I have a day job running Fundamental

43:23

Edge. So my question is can I pass this

43:26

turn turning test in the AI ramp, right?

43:29

So can I turn this refresh into 15

43:31

minutes? Can I turn the full ramp into

43:33

45 minutes, the model updates and the

43:35

new model builds and all of a sudden can

43:38

I spend 120 hours, right? And I and I'm

43:41

really up to speed, right? Now that's

43:43

like no no no institutional investor is

43:46

going to stop at that point. But what I

43:48

would say is like you're freeing up a

43:49

lot of if these can hit

43:51

if these can hit an accuracy hurdle,

43:53

which I think is still a hypothesis,

43:56

you you freed up an immense amount of

43:58

time for other ideas other other ideas

44:01

to to apply

44:04

from a research perspective. So and to

44:07

be very clear like this is an

44:08

experiment. Part of the part of the

44:09

guinea pig nature is hey, this I

44:11

couldn't get this to work and it kept

44:13

spitting out this error.

44:15

So that when firms are doing this they

44:17

would like I had this issue, maybe

44:18

you'll have this issue as well, too. So

44:20

I'm sure they'll have many issues and

44:21

problems. I'm not saying that you can

44:24

you can you you can one shot one one

44:26

shot this. So these are sort of the

44:28

various up to speed

44:29

up to speed workflows.

44:31

Sort of things I do you things I might

44:33

do if I'm just looking for the 15-minute

44:35

download like hey Google a couple

44:37

sell-side notes, scan the last call,

44:38

that sort of okay, I know what's I know

44:40

what's happening. All right. So one of

44:42

the things I'd like to do in all of

44:43

these workflows is I like to parallel

44:46

parallel process

44:48

where, you know, I want to start with

44:51

Claude just natively like going without

44:54

uploading anything, no skills files,

44:56

etc. and say, you know, help me ramp

44:59

help me ramp coverage on Danaher, right?

45:01

And you have you have many friends who

45:03

are really advanced in this stuff and I

45:04

have many friends who are also like hey,

45:06

I tried to get Claude everyone's saying

45:08

Claude's great and I tried to use it to

45:10

ramp coverage on Danaher and it just

45:12

wasn't good. And often what they will do

45:15

is they will go into Claude and they'll

45:16

say help me ramp coverage on help me

45:18

ramp coverage on Danaher. And what you

45:20

see is like better than ChatGPT was nine

45:23

months ago. But you get something that's

45:25

like sounds like a investment blog. It's

45:28

a breakdown of the three segments,

45:31

highlighted the Massimo deal. You know,

45:33

it catches a couple things. But it

45:37

really doesn't have any of the sort of

45:38

structure of anything that I would find

45:40

useful

45:43

you reading as reading as a PM and it's

45:46

just not not not even close to

45:47

comprehensive enough. I'm basically

45:51

trying to one shot for you 12 hours of

45:54

research here, right? And so this

45:55

doesn't get me anywhere close

45:58

to passing the closed book test of can I

46:01

explain and articulate what's happening

46:03

with with with with Danaher So as we

46:06

talked about in the first session

46:09

what's really important today and maybe

46:10

this gets abstracted as well, right? But

46:12

as we sit here in April 2026, what's

46:15

really important is a is a systems

46:16

approach.

46:18

One is sort of like having the intuition

46:20

to know, you know, the superpowers and

46:22

jagged edges. Even simple things like,

46:25

you know, training cut off of if you're

46:27

asking for certain things and it gives

46:29

you 24 instead of 25, well, it's because

46:31

of the training training corpus cut off,

46:33

etc. So having a little bit of the

46:34

intuition of the superpowers and jagged

46:36

edges

46:37

of AI. It's the you know, tool selection

46:40

and data strategy, you know, the

46:42

workflows, prompts and skills that's

46:43

customized to your process. What's

46:45

incredibly important and I'll put a star

46:47

behind this is a two-tier validation

46:48

system.

46:50

So, you know, one of the biggest

46:52

inhibitors to institutional adoption

46:55

>> [snorts]

46:55

>> of AI is one, the big firms aren't

46:57

adopting because it's in it's up up to

46:59

it's in the flow workflow, which is much

47:02

more, you know, sort of high stakes

47:05

subject to hallucinations. And the the

47:08

AI tools really didn't have a great

47:09

validation system. You couldn't build an

47:12

AI agent to validate an output. So

47:15

chatbots couldn't check outputs. Agents

47:18

can check agents in a much more

47:19

effective way, too. So this is like a

47:22

this is a this is a really big deal to

47:24

me, this two-tier validation system. The

47:26

systematic agentic validation, but also

47:29

the analog validation. Hey, take this

47:31

thesis identify the six most important

47:34

inputs, either give me citation or

47:36

create a checklist so I can go and check

47:39

by hand. Let me go into the 10K. Let me

47:40

go into this meeting notes. Let me

47:42

verify verify, right? So creating a

47:46

a culture and system around validation.

47:49

We can't we can't afford to have

47:51

hallucinations in our high stakes work.

47:54

So that's important. And then using the

47:56

system to enhance comprehension and

47:58

and rigor. So one shot obviously like

48:01

it's one shot interactions will not get

48:03

you institutional grade

48:05

grade grade outputs.

48:06

One of the elements that's

48:08

getting a lot of conversation and has

48:10

been really really important in my work

48:12

is what's called a skills file. So a

48:14

skills file is just a way to encode a

48:16

process. Sort of like a stack of

48:18

prompts.

48:19

I won't go deep into what a skill is. I

48:22

would encourage you to just watch this

48:23

23-minute from Shaw on on YouTube which

48:26

did a great job of just the the basics.

48:28

It's basically a stack of prompts. It's

48:31

create

48:32

sort of becoming the new standard for

48:34

encoding a work process. It tells the

48:36

agent what to do effectively and gives

48:39

gives the agent the proper context of

48:41

you, your process and how you want to

48:44

get things to be done. This

48:47

this handles a lot of the issues so far

48:50

what I've seen in terms of that prompts

48:52

had, right? Operating with a concept

48:54

called progressive progressive

48:56

disclosure with a little bit of

48:57

metadata, you couldn't drop in a 30-page

49:00

prompt into a system because the

49:03

the chatbot would lose attention at

49:06

various points along the prompt.

49:09

And so it's sort of, you know, very

49:11

intelligent engineering which is

49:12

becoming the standard of encoding

49:14

workflows. So I'm like oh crap, I I

49:16

spent all this time in 2025

49:19

writing all these prompts then you then

49:21

using AI to write all these prompts. I'm

49:24

going to have to start from scratch. And

49:26

so these prompt libraries, you know,

49:27

that that

49:29

I've built in that we've built that were

49:31

one like very cumbersome because you had

49:34

to there I could never figure out a

49:35

right system of like when to pull the

49:37

right prompt. You couldn't overload Chat

49:40

GPT projects with all of these prompts

49:42

cuz it wouldn't know when to pull the

49:43

right prompt for the right situation.

49:45

This is kind of a solved or like close

49:48

to solved

49:50

problem now.

49:52

Um

49:52

and one of the things that I was

49:54

frustrated by is like I'm going to have

49:55

to go through this whole process again

49:56

of building skills until I realize that

50:00

you can you use the same sort of process

50:02

of meta skills creation, right? So, if

50:04

you have prompts, I would encourage you

50:07

to play with taking that prompt. This is

50:09

a quick story prompt that I've used. And

50:13

Claude couldn't do it I'll sort of get

50:14

into why I had issues with this. Claude,

50:16

Perplexity Computer,

50:18

um one of the things I've uh um liked

50:20

about it is it's very good at meta

50:22

skills creation. What is meta skills

50:24

creation? Using an agent to create agent

50:28

skills, right? Providing the context, in

50:30

this case the prompt, and saying, "Hey,

50:33

I have a prompt on how to just get a

50:35

quick story, like a 15-minute take on

50:37

this idea. Can we turn this into a Can

50:39

we turn this into a skill, right? That

50:41

takes about 2 minutes in Perplexity

50:43

Computer. No engineering required, no

50:45

coding required. So, these agentic work

50:48

platforms uh PC Perplexity Computer in

50:50

particular can turn prompts into skills

50:53

uh very very very easily. So, I sort of

50:55

have mixed, you know, my personal take

50:57

on Claude has been has been mixed.

50:59

There's obviously a massive amount of

51:02

of hype. The agentic tools have been

51:03

have been great. You know, a number of

51:06

wonderful positives. I think the agentic

51:09

abilities, the fact that chatbots have

51:10

hands now are genuinely a game changer.

51:13

You can see the pieces that are there,

51:14

and there's obviously a ton of talent

51:16

capital to to continue to improve these.

51:18

Claude has been iterating at an

51:20

incredibly rapid pace, which is

51:23

exciting. Also, I think there's a lot of

51:25

bugs in the certainly Claude Co-work um

51:29

that have become quite frustrating uh

51:31

quite frustrating to me.

51:33

You know, the the frontier seems to be

51:35

you know, Claude code, you sort of

51:37

directly in terminal or an IDE like a

51:39

cursor of VS Code.

51:41

You know, I I went down that path. Uh

51:44

was highly frustrated by that path. And

51:47

I started asking around and tweeting.

51:48

It's like, "Yo, yeah, that took me 3

51:50

months to learn. It took me 100 hours to

51:52

learn." Like, to become a power user and

51:54

debug and how to spawn sub agents and

51:56

all these things. I'm like, "Man, I'd

51:57

much rather just stay in my wheelhouse,

52:00

operate under the the um

52:02

uh sort of bitter bitter lesson that

52:04

this will get abstracted. And I'm

52:06

starting to see that

52:08

a little bit in sort of most notably in

52:10

in um you see it a little bit in things

52:12

like Replit and Lovable, which are more

52:13

vibe coding abstracted tools, but you

52:15

see that I think particularly in

52:17

in Perplexity uh Computer. So, I think

52:19

my observations the tool the tooling is

52:21

still very immature. Um

52:24

um

52:25

you know, the sort of idea is like just

52:27

ask Claude, it's so easy. Like, no, it's

52:29

not. I spent, you know, my wife was

52:30

like, "Who are you yelling at?" I'm

52:32

like, "I'm yelling at Claude code in VS

52:34

Code because I'm asking Claude how to

52:36

use Claude, and it's not working, and

52:37

everyone lied to me." So, if you're

52:39

struggling with Again, this is like a

52:40

skill issue. This is a user problem. And

52:44

the three investors who are at a at your

52:46

firm who are really technical aren't

52:48

having this issues. It seems seamless to

52:50

them. But the 97 others who are not

52:53

technical, and who whose eyes glaze over

52:55

when they look at the raw code like me,

52:58

um you know, might may struggle with if

53:02

if you roll out VS Code across

53:04

across. I think there's still some

53:05

issues with inconsistent retrieval. MCPs

53:07

are buggy. This one is like approval

53:10

loops. You got to approve everything or

53:11

just let it run loose on your system.

53:13

Like, we have to find a better way for

53:14

that. The local system control makes me

53:17

a little bit uh uneasy. The reality is

53:19

learning these tools is a productivity

53:21

sink. Uh the same way that learning to

53:23

write prompts from hand for 50 hours was

53:25

a productivity sink for me in 2025 cuz I

53:27

never I I've written a prompt by hand in

53:29

9 months. So, that's just that's a

53:32

hypothesis.

53:33

Before you go down, you know, and spend

53:35

the 100 hours

53:37

to learn VS Code to code up your custom

53:39

dashboards, maybe just consider that.

53:42

I've I've backed off of that. People

53:44

think I'm dumb. Like, "No, you do it.

53:45

Let's go and But like, I backed off it.

53:48

Um that's my opinion, and I can always

53:50

pick it back up if I think it's uh

53:52

think it's important. I also talked to a

53:54

lot of people. I'm building these crazy

53:55

things in Claude code. I'm like, "What

53:56

are you building? You're running open

53:58

Claude Oh, crazy. Let me know what

54:00

you're doing." It's like, "Oh, you just

54:01

built like a custom primer." Like, I can

54:03

do that in 2 minutes in Perplexity

54:05

Computer, which is basically like a open

54:07

like a user-friendly open Claude. Like,

54:09

"Okay. Oh, you're doing weekly web

54:11

scraping." Like, "Yes, I'm doing that,

54:12

too, and it took me 3 minutes." And so,

54:15

I think um

54:16

be careful of productivity theater.

54:18

Um especially if you're on Twitter. Be

54:21

careful of feeling like you're dumb if

54:23

you don't, you know, open up an IDE and

54:25

start coding things. Um you know, I'm

54:28

not saying people are lying to you, but

54:29

there's an incentive now to

54:31

to to push some of these uh things. Um

54:34

So, the one one thing I backed off

54:35

Claude Claude Co-work for this specific

54:37

exercise is just not there yet in

54:39

Claude. The ability to sort of take

54:41

prompts um and have them build skills.

54:44

It would build skills that Claude

54:46

couldn't use. They were too long,

54:47

errors, or messy. Um so, I think Claude

54:50

Co-work is I think still conceptually

54:51

very interesting, still quite buggy. Uh

54:54

one of the engineers driving Claude

54:56

Co-work sort of showed this thing of a a

54:58

piece of hardware to approve everything

55:00

in Claude Co-work. That sort of tells

55:02

you, you know, tells you the system

55:04

design is not there yet, right? If I

55:05

have to sit and monitor Claude Co-work

55:08

and approve every single thing, that's a

55:11

problem versus an agentic work for

55:13

platform like Perplexity Pro, where I

55:15

just have it do something. It's not

55:16

operating in my local system. It's

55:18

operating in a in the cloud um uh

55:21

virtual sandbox. So, I don't have that

55:22

process, and I don't, you know, these

55:24

sort of things like you know, you spend

55:26

30 minutes on something, and then you

55:27

reach a tool use term limit. It's like,

55:30

why, you know, okay. So, um

55:33

you know, I'm not a hater of Claude. I

55:34

think it's wonderful in certain ways,

55:36

but I also think the hype is probably a

55:37

little bit too hype uh too too hyped.

55:40

Which sort of brings me to Perplexity

55:41

Computer. I don't think Perplexity did

55:43

themselves you built too many fans in

55:46

finance by saying that Perplexity search

55:48

could kill Bloomberg. Bloomberg is so

55:50

sort of a weird like the other side of

55:51

the spectrum. They've probably been a

55:53

little bit more caution on Perplexity

55:56

cuz the version 1.0 wasn't very good for

55:58

finance. Um so, when I people I tell

56:00

people like, "You're not You're going to

56:01

be like shocked, but I'm actually using

56:03

Perplexity Computer to build this."

56:05

Perplexity Computer is an agent. It's

56:06

basically like open Claude

56:08

with a really nice seamless uh user

56:10

interface. The biggest reason I adopted

56:13

this for this workflow shift from

56:14

Co-work to Perplexity Computer is the

56:17

meta skills creation. I can drop in

56:19

prompts, and I can create these skills,

56:21

and then all I need to do is just run

56:23

the run run the prompt on a run the

56:25

prompt on a ticker. So, I don't know why

56:28

it's better. It uses 19 different

56:30

models.

56:31

Uh again, I have no affiliate economic

56:33

affiliation with it all with it all. If

56:35

there's a better tool that comes out

56:36

tomorrow, I'm going to pivot to the the

56:38

best the best the best the best tool. Um

56:40

but it can create in this ramp process a

56:42

skill, right? Which I can share. I won't

56:44

share in this instance, uh but we're

56:46

considering how to share those. Um and

56:48

it sort of walks through, you know, the

56:50

full file folder. Again, you know,

56:53

bitter lesson. I was like, "Do I need to

56:56

go learn about skills and spend 6 hours

56:58

figuring out how to build the skill MD

57:00

file and the references and all the dot

57:02

MD files and start doing that by hand?"

57:05

And the answer is no, right? I can drop

57:07

a prompt, drop some context into

57:10

Perplexity Computer. I have this I have

57:12

this skills files created for for me.

57:15

Now, that's just starting point. These

57:16

things need a lot of iteration.

57:18

But it has the full sort of, you know,

57:20

produces a 25-to-30-page custom uh

57:23

business business business primer. I

57:25

also know like the rapidity of change,

57:27

new models, new engineering. You you uh

57:30

someone said like, "How do you know this

57:31

won't be abstracted from Mythos or uh

57:34

you know, Chat GPT 6?" And like, "You

57:36

don't know." That's just like the nature

57:38

of the nature of building an AI right

57:40

now. But my hypothesis, I think the

57:43

observation now, I'm sort of with

57:45

basically anything Andrej Karpathy tell

57:47

says, I sort of have a bias to believe.

57:50

Um every time he tweets something, I'm

57:52

like, "How could I apply that to

57:53

investing?" Um

57:55

and um you know, that's sort of been his

57:58

sort of the knowledge graph concept

58:00

right now, which we'll we'll we'll we'll

58:01

we'll we'll get into. Um but my

58:04

hypothesis for non-developers is the

58:05

time you're spending now learning an IDE

58:07

in a terminal is is is wasted mo- wasted

58:10

motion. That whether it's Mythos or, you

58:13

know, Claude manage agents or GPT 6, Sam

58:15

is sort of talking about a unified back

58:17

end, just an easier-to-use interface. Um

58:22

is really the uh is really the is really

58:24

is really the

58:25

uh the the future. So, in building your

58:27

skill, you're sort of building your

58:28

platform. Certainly, um if you're if any

58:32

sort of engineers um on the um on the

58:35

call, I would just say like build build

58:37

build build carefully. Cuz my primary

58:39

interest isn't in hacking

58:40

and, you know, pressing you by all the

58:42

things I can build with with Claude

58:44

code. But I want to build systems that I

58:46

think can change investment process at

58:49

firms that have many many investors at

58:52

various degrees

58:53

of uh of investment process. And like

58:55

me, I'm guessing many of them

58:57

look at code, and their brain is fried.

58:59

We have a cognitive pie, which is

59:02

consumed by following companies and

59:04

markets. And it's very hard to slice a

59:06

100-hour 100-hour slice out of that

59:09

cognitive pie. And probably, maybe not

59:12

certain, but probably a waste of lesson

59:14

a waste of time if the bitter lesson

59:17

holds in the context of intelligence is

59:19

uh it's all about context next to

59:21

intelligence, and the engineering gets

59:23

abstracted. So, I'm sort of paying close

59:24

attention to all these AWPs, um which is

59:28

basically a platform where Claude code

59:30

is sort of abstracted or coding agents

59:32

are abstracted. You know, Copilot

59:35

co-work would be one of those.

59:36

Perplexity computer, you know, Manas I

59:38

think maybe is a dark horse in this. You

59:40

know, what OpenAI builds to sort of

59:42

compete with Cloud co-work.

59:44

Um and I think you know, a number of

59:45

people building internal sort of

59:47

multi-model

59:49

multi-model multi-model agents. Um so

59:51

this is uh this is this is this is um I

59:54

think an interesting interesting

59:55

frontier. And ultimately I think the

59:57

standard is for builders like can you

60:00

build something like this that a team

60:03

works on the back end like your

60:04

engineering uh AI team work on the back

60:07

end to set the architecture and and

60:09

skills up, but then can we go and roll

60:11

this out to an investment team and can

60:13

they is is just so intuitive

60:15

user-friendly that it transform

60:17

transforms our investment process

60:19

uh really sort of right away. So that's

60:21

my hypothesis. That's why I'm so excited

60:23

cuz I kind of see that this is

60:25

potentially potentially possible. Right.

60:28

So we'll pick one of those workflows now

60:29

and I'll give you an example of

60:31

example of how to how how how how to do

60:33

that. Um so quick story, I showed you I

60:35

showed you the prompt to

60:37

you know, the prompt to skills. I now

60:39

have a skill set up in in quick story.

60:41

All I need to say is as I'm looking at

60:43

my my dashboard of an idea is like oh I

60:46

you know, a few outliers. I want to see

60:47

what's happening in these six names,

60:49

right? Just give me a a quick story

60:51

skill on these six names. I want to

60:53

qualify or disqualify quick qualify

60:56

these. This takes a couple minutes in

60:58

Perplexity computer. I get a little

61:00

report and I can just sort of flip

61:02

through this report. So I see okay, why

61:04

Acadia is up 60% this year. It was sort

61:07

of seemed to be like a um liquidity

61:10

overhang where they had capex you know,

61:12

capex cut sort of a re-liquidation

61:15

event. Seems like maybe a activist you

61:18

know, sort of activist is in there to

61:19

cut capex, free cash flow is back. You

61:22

know, short interest was high. So it's

61:24

sort of a confluence of maybe a squeeze

61:26

I don't know or some sort of big move.

61:27

All right, that's sort of interesting.

61:28

Maybe it's a fade. Maybe it's just got

61:30

more

61:31

maybe the activists have a real sort of

61:32

path here for So I don't know the

61:35

answer, but all right, let's add that to

61:36

the active let's add that to the active

61:38

research pipeline. Then I see Inhabit. I

61:40

I I don't know what this business does.

61:43

It wasn't around when I covered health

61:44

care. Like okay, it's up a lot because

61:47

there's a there's a takeout. All right,

61:48

okay, Kinderhook take private. All

61:50

right, let's cut that from the monitor.

61:51

So I could sort of go through these.

61:53

What's happening in a Brookdale? I used

61:54

to cover that fairly closely. All right,

61:55

what's happening now? Okay, the the

61:57

boomer demand story is now starting to

61:59

which everyone invested behind in 2012

62:02

is now sort of coming. Sustained

62:03

occupancy gains in the high 80s. There

62:06

was a big you know, excess supply for a

62:08

lot of years in that space. Maybe that's

62:10

been cleaned up a little bit. Maybe you

62:11

have a favorable occupancy here for a

62:13

few years. All right, that's interesting

62:15

hunch like not a thesis, but let's put

62:17

that in the let's put that let's put

62:19

that. I see this Perspective

62:21

Therapeutics got into my screen and I

62:24

see like okay, this is start we're

62:25

starting to get into like too much

62:27

science-y stuff for me. I'm a hospital

62:29

more of a hospital analyst. All right,

62:31

let's cut that. I don't want to cover

62:32

that. That's just too much science. So

62:34

I'm sort of going through the step one

62:35

of just the basic 100 through 157 names

62:39

just a little bit of a quick story,

62:41

right? And then from there I'm just

62:43

activating those names into my names

62:45

into my pipeline. This is not a crazy

62:46

like controversial workflow like in the

62:49

past how would I do this? I'd look at

62:50

DES on Bloomberg and maybe EEG and read

62:53

a couple notes and it doesn't it's not a

62:55

huge like transformational, but the

62:57

thing is I can customize this to I can

63:00

customize this to what you know, to what

63:02

I want. Like the you know, the bull and

63:04

bear and the you know, the one factor

63:06

and I want to know like specifically why

63:08

the stock is up. It's hard to look at a

63:10

Bloomberg launchpad of talk up 42%

63:13

year-to-date and get a very quickly

63:15

distilled essence of like why why is the

63:18

stock up 42%

63:20

um year-to-date? Well, they had a

63:22

blowout you know, blowout Q4 29% revenue

63:25

growth, adjusted EBITDA doubled, strong

63:27

guidance. Like okay, cool. Like that

63:29

that saved me 15 minutes of hunting down

63:32

those questions which doesn't seem like

63:34

a lot, but if I'm trying to do this 157

63:37

times

63:39

that is really helpful. Um

63:41

so um and this starts to help me sort of

63:43

uncover the curve of what's happening in

63:47

all of these

63:48

um

63:49

all the all all all of these stories,

63:51

right? Which brings me to Danaher. So I

63:52

sort of see in the quick story Danaher

63:55

you know, the one factor is a

63:56

bioprocessing recovery trajectory and I

63:59

have priors on this cuz I covered

64:00

Danaher for a long time and I walked

64:02

walked through you know, sort of lived

64:03

through the

64:04

business transformation and management

64:06

strategy to align themselves with the

64:08

secular growing area and then sort of

64:11

COVID you know, boom in bioprocessing

64:13

and then the bust and

64:15

you know, we sort of get into idea

64:16

generation, but one of the powerful

64:18

elements in idea generation is pattern

64:20

recognition. So one of my favorite

64:22

patterns in longs is a hangover

64:23

dissipation where there's a temporary

64:25

tailwind, boom turns to bust, bust

64:27

sustains for a while. Markets are not

64:30

great discounting mechanisms. They sort

64:32

of assume whatever is in front of our

64:33

face now persists forever.

64:35

But when you're hungover hangover

64:37

doesn't last forever. There's sort of a

64:39

natural cooling off of a hangover

64:42

and often that re-acceleration can sort

64:44

of get you back to you know, you sort of

64:46

get the Lollapalooza of you know,

64:48

accelerating fundamentals with you know,

64:51

re-expansion in multiples. All right,

64:52

that sort of feels like maybe that's a

64:54

situation here. That extended period of

64:56

of weak weak business momentum. So all

64:58

right, let's let's let's put that into

65:00

the active research pipeline and for

65:02

this again not not a recommendation to

65:04

buy or sell uh Danaher Danaher, but

65:06

let's sort of

65:07

let's see if we can go deep from this

65:09

quick story signal. Let's see if we can

65:11

go deep on a name. So how do we do that?

65:14

Here I'll bring in sort of Andrej

65:15

Karpathy concept on knowledge bases. And

65:18

basically what he's saying is he's

65:19

spending a lot less time manipulating

65:21

code

65:23

and more time manipulating knowledge.

65:25

And again like you know, my principle of

65:28

AI is like whatever Andrej says at least

65:31

go investigate it, right?

65:34

Um

65:34

So I think he's very unbiased and sort

65:36

of calls a spade a spade which is

65:38

certainly not true of many of the other

65:40

characters in this space. He said he

65:43

said agents were sloppy in October. Um

65:46

you know, playing with the you know,

65:47

ChatGPT agents in October you could see

65:49

it slop. He sort of called the turn in

65:51

coding agents etc.

65:53

So I think he's um he's a reliable

65:55

sherpa as reliable as they come

65:58

of the frontier of what's uh of what's

66:00

uh uh possible. His automated research

66:02

concept I think is really really

66:03

important when it comes to automating

66:05

research around

66:06

on on on key drivers. Essentially what

66:08

he he's saying is that LLM intelligence

66:11

advances such a degree there's an

66:12

intelligence overhang.

66:14

Right? That the engineering's get

66:15

abstracted. That the core part of what

66:17

we need to do is just put as much

66:19

context next to the intelligence of the

66:21

LLM as possible, right? And so that's

66:23

sort of the concept. And so I've been

66:25

playing with that concept. And there's

66:27

sort of two elements of of context for

66:30

me that matter. One is just the classic

66:33

you know, way we think about research

66:35

context for investors is just the raw

66:37

information. Filings, transcripts,

66:39

sell-side notes. Um

66:42

um expert network transcripts etc. I've

66:45

sort of pointed to AlphaSense as over

66:47

the last 12 years as a signal. I don't

66:50

have these great systems. I don't have

66:51

an sell-side pipe etc. I'm operating in

66:54

a very low research budget internally.

66:57

Uh but AlphaSense to me has been a check

66:59

that research context is a key point of

67:01

leverage, right? That when you feed in

67:03

more information you get much better

67:05

much better outputs. I can spin up

67:08

certain workflows that I that I think

67:10

I'm grading my own home home homework

67:12

are much better than what AlphaSense

67:13

does now, but something like earnings

67:16

previews AlphaSense to me is much better

67:19

certainly when there's a number of um uh

67:22

a number of expert network calls done on

67:24

a name cuz it can pull in that context

67:26

and give you a much better articulation

67:28

of bull and bear than you could on an

67:30

open open web scrape. So to me like

67:33

AlphaSense has shown the light on the

67:34

power of research context.

67:37

Um and my sort of parallel processing of

67:39

like one shot this versus building a

67:41

workflow system has shown me the

67:42

leverage of workflow context, right?

67:45

What to do, how to do it in incredible

67:48

detail, right? And I I um my brain just

67:52

is wired for some reason to just like be

67:54

able to build 80-page documents on how

67:56

people do earning season. That's just

67:58

like a hobby of mine. I don't know. I

67:59

need to I need to talk to a therapist um

68:02

about it, but I like the systems thing

68:04

like the systems decomposition of

68:06

investment process is always I just like

68:08

nerded out on it ever since I started in

68:10

doing the doing doing this job. Um so

68:13

how I build deep workflow context

68:15

a lot of it's just the 15 years of notes

68:17

and process learnings um

68:19

that I've sort of collected on along the

68:21

way and distilled into our programs. We

68:23

run many you know, uh analyst academy

68:26

enterprise programs, AI programs, factor

68:29

factor academy programs etc.

68:31

Um sort of supplementing that with brain

68:33

dumps. I find myself walking around my

68:35

backyard without shoes on just you know,

68:37

speaking into my

68:39

and into a note notes apps on

68:41

WhisperFlow

68:42

um just for sometimes hours on end

68:44

talking through all the things that

68:46

investors think about in earning season

68:48

to add more context and that sort of

68:50

creates a version 1.0 of a context uh

68:53

document that are really really

68:54

detailed. Like my my earning season you

68:57

know, context is about 80 pages of like

69:00

single space like word word word word

69:02

document. Uh AI is very good at creating

69:05

those. You just need to drop it in and

69:06

be like hey, create a detailed context

69:09

context architecture

69:10

and sort of tell it we want to do this

69:12

to be incredibly comprehensive to then

69:15

flow it back into a con con context

69:17

architecture. I'm probably giving you

69:18

too much alpha of like the core IP of

69:20

what I'm building, but

69:22

um it is what it is. Um

69:24

so you want to talk about you know, why

69:26

to do it, how to do it, what documents

69:28

you need, and a process process

69:29

checklist. This is not going to be

69:30

perfect, so a lot of it's like iteration

69:32

iteration afterwards. Really, what you

69:34

want to do is you want to you want to be

69:37

you want to get as decomposed as

69:38

possible, right? You don't want to say,

69:40

"Hey, I want to you know, help me in

69:42

earning season." That's sort of vague um

69:45

a prompt is going to get you a really

69:47

bad output. Why is that? The fundamental

69:49

training corpus, the parametric memory

69:51

of LLMs is is primarily influenced by

69:55

the open web, blogs and Buffett, right?

69:57

And so, Buffett, you know, last time I

70:00

checked Buffett hasn't never gone to an

70:02

annual meeting and walked through his 16

70:04

step 16 step earnings preparation

70:07

process, right? But, we do that in in

70:09

Analyst Academy. We break it down in

70:11

process into the component parts to get

70:13

as specific as possible, right? These

70:16

thinly sliced workflows will help you

70:19

sort of steer the system on what what to

70:22

do, right? Hey, when you're doing an

70:23

earnings preview, step one, go in and

70:26

pull management baseline tone from last

70:29

call, you know, last three calls, any

70:31

internal notes in between. Is there

70:33

language selection deviations that

70:35

matter? Those are those can be

70:37

information-laden. If companies was

70:39

using one specific highly positive

70:41

valence word for 6 weeks, and then they

70:44

took that word out of their commentary

70:45

in the last 3 weeks, that might be a

70:47

tell on the business momentum that they

70:50

and only they see, right? What's the

70:52

body language, right? Like, we're

70:53

obsessed with well, the body language

70:55

was good. You can turn that body

70:56

language into a subcomponent of the

70:59

agent. Now, you still have to be in the

71:00

room to take the notes to do that,

71:01

right? So, that's sort of a argument for

71:03

another another day.

71:05

Uh you know, set up agents. How can we

71:06

pull in, you know,

71:09

sort of all all I don't want to go down

71:10

this rabbit hole, but I think you now

71:11

systematize set up set up agents. So,

71:14

the the depth and complexity of earning

71:17

season is something that really need you

71:19

need really need to build a system

71:20

around that.

71:22

Um

71:23

And this is where like I'm like just

71:24

geeking out like geeking out like crazy.

71:26

You have to figure out how to steer the

71:28

model. What does business quality mean

71:30

to mean mean to you? Like, business

71:32

quality can mean different things to

71:33

different people. It could mean, you

71:35

know, to to an LLM, it means high ROIC

71:38

today. Well, guess who does What guess

71:40

what company doesn't have an high ROIC

71:42

today? Amazon, right? And so, the

71:45

complexity and nuance of how you think

71:47

about business quality needs to be

71:48

articulated, needs to be sort of steer

71:50

needs to be sort of steered. You what

71:52

are the patterns that work for you,

71:53

right? Starting to articulate articulate

71:56

patterns

71:57

you know, in in our idea generation long

71:59

before AI became a thing, we talked

72:01

about pattern recognition, short alpha

72:03

buckets. What are the sort of types of

72:04

ideas you're hunting for that aren't

72:07

necessarily purely quantitative ideas,

72:09

they're qualitative considerations that

72:11

we had to pattern match through the

72:13

crucible of just doing the work. Now,

72:15

you can turn those into into

72:19

sort of sort sort sort of patterns,

72:21

right? So, these are sort of concepts

72:22

that that that feed into this feed into

72:24

this context context, which I think

72:27

after it's all said and done will be

72:28

thousands and thousands of pages like

72:31

this

72:33

um that that uh capture the full context

72:36

of the way I see the fundamental

72:39

investment process. To give you just one

72:41

snip of that, this is what comes out

72:44

when I do that on on a comprehensive

72:46

ramp, which is just a you know, I want

72:48

to I want to do a business initiation on

72:51

a company. It's a 40-hour guidebook. If

72:54

I'm going to go from Danaher from start

72:56

to to to to to beginning, this is the

72:59

work I want to do, right? This would be

73:01

actually like a pretty helpful thing if

73:03

you have an intern, just hand this

73:04

guidebook over to an intern sort of a

73:06

guided. But, I think the mindset holds

73:08

in the sense of like if you had a if you

73:10

had a neophyte investor and you want to

73:11

give them an incredibly detailed

73:13

articulation of how to spend your time

73:14

and what to do, this is the playbook.

73:17

This doesn't this isn't Danaher

73:18

specific, this is a this is a meta

73:21

context that I sort of will in turn in

73:24

turn into skills, but it gives the time

73:26

allocation and structure, right?

73:28

Um you have step you know, step one, I

73:30

want to just talk about like how the

73:31

business makes money, which is seemingly

73:33

innocuous question, but it's like that

73:34

matters a lot. Like, you know, if I'm if

73:36

I'm an analyst if I'm a PM listening to

73:39

an analyst pitch, it's like a common

73:40

question like, "Walk me through how the

73:41

business makes money." You'd be

73:43

surprised at how many analysts can

73:44

articulate that very clearly, right?

73:46

It's a little bit more complicated than

73:48

than you would think. Is this a good or

73:49

a bad business? Well, that's a little

73:50

bit more of a complicated question than

73:52

than it might might might seem. How does

73:54

a dollar of cash flow through the

73:55

business, right? How does it how does a

73:57

company raise capital, run it run you

74:00

know, generate revenue to cash, right?

74:02

Fund fund working capital, fund CapEx,

74:04

etc. Like, walk me through the dollar

74:06

life cycle. These are like interview

74:08

questions that I had asked people that

74:09

are like actually kind of hard to

74:11

kind of hard and good check good check.

74:13

So, I can take those take that context

74:15

and say, "Hey, like for each one of

74:17

these instances, go do go like answer

74:20

this. Like, go walk me through the unit

74:22

economics and incremental margins and

74:23

all these the buy-side jargon that

74:26

the people will talk talk about. Do the

74:27

business history for me. Like, give give

74:29

like a you know, a big a big a big big

74:32

rundown."

74:33

One of the crazier unlocks again why I'm

74:35

a

74:36

Perplexity computer fan now is I can

74:38

just drop upload that 38-page document

74:42

into Perplexity computer, I just say,

74:44

"Build me a skills architecture," right?

74:46

There's a number of different skills.

74:47

You can do a singular skill, you can

74:48

just do orchestrated pipelines, which is

74:50

a little bit of a context engineering

74:52

engineering concept. I won't get deep

74:54

into that. Um again, like, you know, um

74:57

context windows have expanded,

75:00

and skills help manage those context

75:02

windows, but there are still context

75:04

window limitations, right? So, there's

75:06

still a little bit of engineering or uh

75:09

[snorts]

75:09

system design and skills that need to be

75:12

um considered. The cool part is like you

75:15

can do the the same way I can you know,

75:17

build and improve a prompt, I can build

75:20

and improve a skill. So, if I get an

75:21

output, right? OX Fuckeroy mentioned

75:25

mentioned on my skill is that, "Hey, you

75:27

know, uh uh

75:28

there's a goodwill impairment coming

75:32

from Aldevron." Like, that's not a

75:34

that's not a real risk. So, I'm like,

75:35

"Completely agree." Like, no one really

75:37

cares about a goodwill impairment. It's

75:39

an accounting artifice. And so, I can go

75:41

back into the skill and be like, "Hey,

75:43

you mentioned in this output that, you

75:46

know, uh accounting goodwill impairment

75:49

is a risk to the stock, and I disagree

75:51

with that because that's sort of sniffed

75:53

out by the market. The market already

75:54

knows that was a they overpaid for the

75:56

deal. That's not likely to be a catalyst

75:58

at all." It's just And so, I could go

76:00

back and taper and inter iterate that

76:02

skill. What's interesting to me, too, is

76:05

the

76:05

part of the reason I'm building out this

76:06

skills architecture is the way I think

76:09

about the world is not the way you're

76:10

going to think about the world. So, what

76:12

we're thinking about and having an

76:14

initial conversation with clients is

76:15

like, "Here's our skills architecture.

76:17

What do you like about this? What is

76:18

different? Oh, you think about this

76:19

differently. Okay, like, we can taper

76:21

and adjust that

76:24

adjust that." You know, data and MCPs

76:26

still very critical. It's become a lot

76:28

easier with all the integrate

76:30

integrations and MCPs and a I'll talk

76:33

about this more in modeling, where I

76:34

think that's sort of been the key

76:36

unlock, the ability to In the past,

76:38

Excel agents haven't worked because they

76:40

want to go web scrape a number. So, if

76:42

you said in the past, "Hey, what is

76:43

Nvidia's last 10 years of EPS?" it would

76:46

go web scrape those from Seeking Alpha

76:48

and like, yeah, no

76:49

you know, big surprise if those numbers

76:51

are incorrect, but getting a Delupa MCP

76:54

connected in or a Finch at MCP connected

76:56

in um you know, has has opened up a lot

77:00

of these quantitative quantitative use

77:02

cases. LLMs are bad at math and fuzzy

77:04

with numbers, but agentic systems that

77:07

can pull in high-quality data via MCP

77:10

MCP matters. And so, grounding I think

77:12

is still an important critical

77:14

critical element, and if you're sort of

77:16

in the wait you wait for agentic work

77:18

systems like I am, um I think one good

77:22

thing to do at your firm is just like be

77:23

really clear on data data data data

77:25

strategy.

77:27

But, this is particularly critical if

77:29

you want to turn these red lights into

77:30

green lights on in the flow,

77:33

which earnings or new like news is much

77:35

harder than you would think to get

77:37

high-quality news validated citation,

77:40

getting Bloomberg news and Reuters news

77:42

and StreetAccount news in. If anyone has

77:44

any ideas on how to do that, I have not

77:46

from my perch have not figured out how

77:48

to do that.

77:50

Um you know, scraping your Outlook,

77:51

scraping scraping Slack, etc.

77:54

Um

77:54

So, these are systems that are just

77:56

harder because there's no validation no

77:59

natural validation path. So, that's the

78:00

sort of like advice I would give you is

78:02

like, don't run into something without a

78:04

that requires validation path because

78:07

this is not AGI. They're still sort of

78:09

these you know, system system system

78:11

issues, right? But, this again, like

78:14

this comprehensive path, like I'm trying

78:16

to there will be a validation here,

78:19

right? And so, what do I get What do I

78:21

get out of this? I get, you know, a

78:22

28-page,

78:24

you know, custom initiation on on

78:26

Danaher. And this [snorts] we probably

78:28

will share just to give an example of of

78:30

of of an output that, you know, use

78:33

speaks my language, right? And my

78:35

language again might not be your

78:36

language. We use a Focus Five on sort of

78:39

learning a business of organic growth,

78:40

margin trajectory, capital intensity,

78:42

cap deploy, and terminal value,

78:43

durability. So, it speaks my language of

78:46

the things that the lens that I would

78:47

use to evaluate a business, right?

78:50

That's pretty helpful. It speaks my

78:52

language when it when, you know, I want

78:54

to know like step one, I want to know

78:57

how the business makes money, right? Is

78:58

this a good business? How cash flows

79:00

through the business?

79:02

I want to know the incrementals, like

79:04

what the company said about

79:05

incrementals. I want to go I want to

79:07

know the go-to-market strategy. I want

79:08

to know the unit economics. These are

79:10

all things that I want to know,

79:12

and now I can effectively train this

79:14

system to go do the work in the way that

79:17

I that I that I that I want to know,

79:19

right? And certain things like, you

79:21

know, Gene expert instrument prices

79:23

9,000 to 75,000. It's like, I don't

79:26

know, is that if I'm going to hang my

79:27

hat on that as a investable data point?

79:29

I want to go and check that. I want to

79:31

see I want to see a source. I want to

79:33

see a source for that. None of this is

79:36

None of this I'm taking with with

79:37

gospel. I'm taking this with the same

79:40

degree of skepticism as a sell-side

79:42

research report. I'm not going to I love

79:44

Jefferies. I'm not going to read a

79:45

Jefferies report and go trade a stock.

79:48

I'm not going to read this and go trade

79:49

a stock either. Right? I'm verifying and

79:51

validate and validating. But this is a

79:53

speed up. Even simple things I really

79:56

like like a jargon glossary. If you're a

79:57

healthcare investor, you know the jargon

79:59

is you you jargon is crazy. I see VBP

80:02

coming up like what is VBP? Okay,

80:03

value-based procurement in China.

80:05

There's 70 to 90% price reductions. This

80:08

is where I can bring in a deep research

80:09

report if I want to learn about Chinese

80:11

Chinese VBP.

80:12

I can get really smart on this

80:14

really smart on this output.

80:16

This sort of element of the of the use

80:18

case was going across a few healthcare

80:19

companies. Um, right right right right

80:22

now.

80:23

Um, and so it just sort of speeds It

80:25

seems silly. It's like, okay, you know,

80:27

no one's job is going to be lost from

80:29

having a jargon glossary in all our

80:31

initiations. But in the sort of the

80:34

speed up effort to get smart on 157

80:37

names, that's pretty helpful. All right,

80:39

that's pretty helpful. It gives me the

80:40

history of the various inflection points

80:42

or the eras AI is really good at this

80:44

sort of telling the telling the history

80:46

and the competitive environment. Give me

80:49

the track record. I always like these

80:50

like this has been really helpful for

80:51

guidance track records and investor day

80:53

track records. I want to know like what

80:55

hap what the company said at the 22

80:57

investor day. What were their targets,

80:59

right? And did they miss those targets?

81:01

Right, that's the sort of important

81:03

element in understanding management

81:04

credibility and the external

81:06

environment. How much of that was

81:07

operations versus external environment?

81:10

I can do a moat assessment. And these

81:12

are like, you know, specific This is

81:14

based on the specific curriculum we

81:16

teach, right? Is this a critical

81:17

business? Would anyone cry if this

81:19

business went away? Well, yes, cuz

81:21

Cytiva is specked into, you know, in 90%

81:23

of global monoclonal antibody

81:25

manufacturing. Like that's a pretty

81:27

powerful powerful moat because swapping

81:29

a res mech campaign requires months of

81:31

re re revalidation and FDA submissions.

81:34

That's really helpful when I start to

81:35

think about the pricing power that could

81:38

be sort of

81:39

sort of sort of possible possible

81:42

in this [clears throat]

81:43

in the in in this business, right? The

81:45

moat durability, etc. Guidance

81:47

scorecard, capital deployment track

81:48

record. Again, like there's no alpha in

81:50

this, but this is getting me up to speed

81:52

157 times. These are the things I'm

81:55

writing notes on as I'm going through

81:56

the K's, Q's, transcripts, sell-side

81:58

research, right?

82:00

I'd say, you know, accounting red flags

82:02

and there's all I think a whole rabbit

82:03

hole of forensic and risk. It's really

82:06

really compelling from the from the

82:07

start. LM's have been quite good with

82:09

forensic and risk. And if we tie this

82:12

back to how does AI drive alpha? I think

82:14

it

82:15

you know, a decent way that AI drives

82:16

alpha is by avoiding and mitigating big

82:19

losers. Trading plan trading plans,

82:22

thesis creep, forensic red flags, etc.

82:27

If you've sort of run a portfolio, you

82:28

know at the end of the year you always

82:30

have two or three ideas. You're like,

82:31

well, how was I so stupid? How did I

82:32

miss that? Compound mistakes. If I can

82:35

use these systems to mitigate or avoid

82:37

those two or three bad ideas, that's

82:39

sort of the simple math of of of

82:42

creating more alpha in your in your in

82:43

your portfolio.

82:44

So I think that's a really interesting

82:46

and augmented short selling I think is a

82:48

really interesting concept

82:50

right now.

82:51

One thing that's like really meta,

82:53

but like AI is really good at is this

82:55

human orchestration. So based on this

82:57

workflow,

82:59

right?

83:00

Part of the thing is like, okay, what do

83:02

you not see and what do you need human

83:04

intelligence to go find? My prior is

83:07

like anything you can do at a desk like

83:09

just desktop K's, Q's, models, etc.

83:11

alone is not dur is not durable. Like

83:13

every once in a while you get those, the

83:15

market really overreacts and just like

83:18

first order desktop, but building a

83:20

portfolio of 15 by 20 portfolio of ideas

83:23

with high idea velocity

83:25

really will require close to source

83:27

primary research on top of on top of the

83:30

desk desktop primary research. This is

83:33

really interesting cuz AI is a really

83:34

good

83:35

orchestrator of what humans can do,

83:37

right? It can give me an example

83:40

things to go do. Hey, go, you know, the

83:42

the Masimo acquisition. Like go talk to

83:44

some executives. Go talk to five CDO

83:46

CDMO customers.

83:48

Um,

83:49

go like, you know, there's been issues

83:51

with NIH appropriations. So when is the

83:54

budget out? What's the catalyst path

83:55

there? Let me sort of, you know, do an

83:58

do an agentic analysis of last budget.

84:01

And so I can sort of react quickly to

84:03

when the new budget new budget's out.

84:06

Um, you know, how can I get smart on

84:08

VBP? What's the catalyst? Do I want to

84:09

buy the stock ahead of a

84:11

8 90% VBB VBB cut?

84:14

Um, and one of the tool the tools, etc.

84:17

Um,

84:18

again, like as a PM doing the same like,

84:20

yeah, that's that's good idea. That's a

84:21

bad idea. I'll do these things. As a PM

84:23

managing six analysts is could be

84:25

transformational, right? The ability to

84:27

to steer good primary research across an

84:30

investment organization. I think it's

84:32

really really interesting. Um, a lot of

84:35

what the great funds have done over the

84:37

last 10 years in investment processes

84:39

mandated certain steps in the process to

84:41

raise the the quality floor.

84:44

Um,

84:44

I think these these as like a director

84:47

of

84:54

and rigor of research.

84:57

It's really interesting. And this not

84:59

This is as like right in front of your

85:00

face like exactly what you could do

85:02

across

85:03

across a portfolio. I think risk systems

85:06

will change dramatically cuz if I have a

85:07

300 stock portfolio as head of risk, I

85:10

can look at the catalyst path. I can

85:11

have an agentic overlay on catalyst

85:13

path. Hey, did you know that we're we

85:16

have a huge position in Danaher ahead of

85:18

the, you know, the NIH appropriations

85:21

report coming out next week? Oh, no, I

85:23

didn't know that, Mr. Head of risk. Like

85:25

I'll take a look at that and consider my

85:27

sizing. Um, so just the the level of

85:30

rigor

85:31

that you can apply with some of these

85:32

tools now is um, again, you're not

85:35

hanging your hat. It's not telling you

85:36

what to do. It's not telling you if

85:37

Danaher is a long or a short, right? Cuz

85:40

again, short-circuiting that mosaic is

85:43

is a really bad idea. Like please don't

85:45

do that. That's a very bad That's a very

85:46

bad idea.

85:48

Um, again, like some issues like it it

85:50

noted, you know, goodwill goodwill

85:52

impairment, right? Oh, no, there's an

85:54

Aldevron goodwill impairment. Like I

85:56

can't buy the stock. Like no one would

85:58

That that's just like silly. But again,

86:00

like, okay, tangible book value is

86:02

effectively negative.

86:04

That

86:05

Okay. Like I don't you know, no one

86:06

cares. No no owners owners or buyers of

86:08

the stocks or care. So I go back in and

86:11

be like, hey, you pointed this issue

86:13

out.

86:14

Um, fix this in your skills

86:15

architecture. Like don't make that same

86:16

mistake.

86:18

And you want to show you know, you want

86:19

to train this thing the same way you're

86:20

training an intern intern or analyst,

86:22

right? What I've always had investors my

86:25

analysts do as I ramped them up is

86:27

create like a two-page completion brief

86:29

for me. So it's like what I would do in

86:30

the past is, hey, junior analyst, go do

86:33

initiation on Danaher. Spend a week on

86:35

Danaher. At the end, write a report for

86:37

me. I want a two-page report. These are

86:39

the things I want you to to sort of

86:41

explain to me. You know, the business

86:44

model quality momentum. Is things

86:45

getting better or worse? Secular

86:47

cyclical drivers. What are the three key

86:49

drivers? Right? And when I ran a team

86:51

team of nine, we had a Excel spreadsheet

86:54

with the three key drivers of every

86:55

single name.

86:56

What you know, whether they're narrative

86:58

or KPI focused. Tell me about the

87:00

management team, right? What are the two

87:02

key risks to the business model? What's

87:05

the next 6-month catalyst path, right?

87:07

Do we need to move faster? Do we have

87:09

time on this idea? What's the bull base

87:11

bear, right? What's the number one

87:12

thing? What's the single most impactful

87:14

variable that'll make make or break the

87:16

story? And how do we track it, right?

87:18

What's the research plan, right? Based

87:20

on this bull bear, you know, what are

87:22

the what are the things we can go do to

87:24

develop conviction in one of these

87:26

outcomes, right? I'm not going into this

87:28

thing is a bull a a long or short. I'm

87:30

trying to create a structured system

87:33

around this, right? And then, you know,

87:35

what's your what's your sort of do we

87:36

have a recommendation? Like what do you

87:37

what's your first sort of and we'll with

87:39

a Bayesian approach we'll update that.

87:41

So I want to do this across, you know, I

87:44

almost got to this across 300 names.

87:47

Um,

87:48

but I want to do this across 157 now,

87:50

right? I want to have a two-page report

87:52

that's an up-to-speed completion brief,

87:54

right? Cuz then I can feed this back

87:55

into tracking systems, right? So a

87:57

little bit of like working with systems

87:58

is don't just start with the simplicity.

88:01

Start with the complexity, right? Of the

88:04

deep rigorous analysis on Danaher. And

88:07

then sort of refine that down to the

88:08

simple thing, right? Cuz most stocks

88:11

like most PM's will tell a story and

88:13

tell a story in 30 seconds of like the

88:16

stock is going to be made or made or

88:18

broken based on this, right? If you

88:20

can't do that, you probably

88:22

don't know what you're doing.

88:24

Um, and so,

88:26

you know, take that one thing and put

88:28

that into a system. The one thing for

88:30

for Danaher is bio you know, Pall and

88:31

Cytiva bioprocessing trends. And so

88:34

across 157 names, can I have that,

88:37

right? What will make or break the

88:38

stock?

88:39

The really scary thing and this is where

88:41

I think Quantamental systems

88:43

um

88:44

are a little bit scary

88:46

um or maybe like could work now is you

88:48

can actually create automated tracking

88:50

around this across 57 names. Right?

88:52

These are illustrative not meant to

88:53

represent reality, but like I can go in

88:55

and get all that quantitative data

88:57

points. I can get data, you know,

88:58

industry data, alt data, etc. All the

89:01

comments from companies and management

89:03

teams. If if Biotek needs in Europe at a

89:05

BAML healthcare conference saying

89:07

something about something about, you

89:09

know, bioprocessing orders rolling over

89:12

and I hire a team of journalists in

89:14

Europe to sort of go to that management

89:15

meeting and take verbatim notes and

89:17

feeds it back into the system and all of

89:18

a sudden I have I have a signal that

89:21

sort of has high correlation to Danaher

89:23

and everyone thinks things are getting

89:24

better, but that allows me to pump the

89:26

stock cuz I sort of feed that feed that

89:28

raw notes directly into my system and it

89:30

comes into my dashboard with a flashing

89:32

red light.

89:34

That's you know,

89:36

kind of like not conceptual anymore.

89:39

It's like it's it's possible.

89:41

So um

89:43

possible and scary.

89:44

Um so how how you implement this? I sort

89:47

of like still I'm just slowly reading

89:48

these reports. I've compressed 30 hours

89:50

into 60 minutes. Again, like if you're

89:52

in the desk doing this, you can redeploy

89:53

those 29 hours elsewhere. A little bit

89:56

of still like hand valuation again, like

89:58

some of these spit out great. Some of

90:00

these spit out like man, you didn't you

90:02

didn't why are you saying that's the

90:03

number one thing? Like that's dumb. Like

90:05

so

90:07

um

90:07

you know, it requires debugging

90:09

is like still a thing.

90:12

Um

90:12

you know, maybe after if a little bit of

90:14

debugging you can create a what I like

90:16

to do is like find 10 that didn't work

90:18

well, explain why they didn't work well,

90:20

feed that back into the skill. Like hey,

90:22

you're making these recurring mistakes

90:24

over and over.

90:25

Make sure your key driver the number one

90:27

thing is at least like 40% of profit or

90:30

has a potential to be 40% of profit.

90:32

Like don't tell me that you know, this

90:34

5% of the business is the most important

90:36

thing like that. You refine your

90:39

consideration of what of what of of what

90:41

matters. So iteration matters um

90:43

here. Create those tracking systems and

90:45

then the validation system around this,

90:47

right? So you should be able to and I

90:48

think like for those building in this

90:50

should just be a loop. Like this could

90:52

be output run into a validation system.

90:55

Citation is it is sort of important.

90:57

That's where like AlphaSense has done a

90:59

good job on citation.

91:00

So can all of these numbers, you know,

91:02

have some sort of citation back to

91:05

to K K where sort click through

91:07

citation. I think will matter. So again,

91:09

not perfect, but I think the pieces are

91:11

there.

91:12

Uh the pieces are there. So for all 157

91:15

names like you know, I have a report of

91:17

you know, what's the what's the the

91:19

primary bet the three key drivers two

91:21

key risk factors bull base bear thematic

91:23

leverage data dashboards primary

91:25

research with like what humans can do.

91:27

Um and um I think this is going to be

91:29

pretty

91:31

interesting. Um I'll share these as I'll

91:34

share these as as we go along. I'll

91:36

share some in these open webinars. I'll

91:37

share share more and

91:39

um with our with our students. You know,

91:41

I probably go a little bit slowly just

91:43

cuz my token bill's getting pretty high

91:44

on

91:45

um

91:46

high high high high on these and I sort

91:48

of point out like

91:49

this doesn't drive alpha.

91:51

Right? But it's a start, right? It

91:53

drives alpha in the sense that if I'm

91:55

doing this on the desk, you know, 60

91:57

hours times 150 names consumes my life,

92:01

right?

92:02

Um if I can augment this down to 20

92:04

hours,

92:05

how can I think back on all the new

92:08

stuff that I have time to do, right?

92:11

I've lived this intimately having lived

92:14

in two worlds.

92:15

I lived in the Tiger Cub world

92:17

and I lived in the multi-manager world.

92:20

The sort of idea of velocity demands in

92:21

the multi-manager world didn't allow my

92:24

analyst team to spend a lot of time at

92:27

trade shows, on the road,

92:30

uh doing primary research where we

92:32

decidedly did in the Tiger Cub world.

92:35

And so I think this requires a little

92:38

bit of rethink on how analysts are

92:40

spending their times. I think the

92:41

obvious output is

92:44

you know, pushing alpha

92:46

um sort of the chase of alpha more into

92:49

scuttlebutt primary research as desktop

92:51

research becomes more

92:53

more commoditized. Um and this is where

92:55

I think it's also hard for quantimental

92:56

firms to to play unless they have

92:58

researcher journal teams of journalists

93:00

um

93:01

to go out and and capture this context.

93:04

Listen, you still have to form an

93:04

opinion.

93:06

Um you still have to navigate end of one

93:08

situations tariffs and ran and

93:10

regulatory volatility and we're still

93:11

assigning probabilities around very

93:14

tough unknowable questions like will AI

93:16

kill kill SAS stocks and will you know,

93:19

will the third-party payer system in

93:21

health care break down?

93:22

Um

93:23

what will AI's impact on health care

93:24

companies? Like these are things that

93:25

are knowable. Like I can't go I can't go

93:28

into chat GPT and say hey, will there be

93:31

a breakdown of third-party payer system

93:32

and will we have Medicare for all?

93:35

These are sort of unknowable unknowable

93:37

questions. We play the game of three

93:39

dimensionality of what does the market

93:41

believe? Where's the hurdle? And then

93:43

when things get extreme, you sort of

93:44

jump over that hurdle.

93:46

Um expectations engines are I think an

93:48

interesting path as well, too.

93:50

How will AI impact drug discovery? These

93:52

are unknowable questions. You're not

93:54

going to get that answer. But I think I

93:56

go back to informational edge. It's not

93:57

alpha modern alpha is not about

93:59

informational edge to me. It's about an

94:01

integrated perception and differentiated

94:03

view of the future and a three

94:04

dimensionality of what the market

94:05

believes and what what I believe and

94:07

sort of playing in the extremes of the

94:09

tails where there's a

94:11

sort of more severe expectation gap. So

94:13

we still have to make our 60/40 bets our

94:15

two to one risk rewards are three

94:16

dimensional which are three dimensional

94:17

in nature what I believe with the market

94:19

believes. The good news is that we sort

94:22

of spend less time spreading consensus

94:24

and

94:25

updating models in the sort of low

94:27

calorie low calorie work and more time

94:30

in the sort of really interesting high

94:32

calorie work

94:33

um in my in my in my in my opinion. Now

94:36

every firm is going to have different

94:37

views on this just like some firms

94:39

demand their investors their analysts

94:41

build models from scratch as a learning

94:43

exercise and others use can analyst

94:44

models. So again, header header header

94:46

header header header heterogeneity of

94:48

investment process. But there's all

94:50

sorts of

94:52

rethinks of investment process that that

94:54

which is fun for me cuz like I love

94:55

thinking about investment process. Just

94:57

like really really fun. Again, I

94:59

probably have a problem. So the skills

95:00

architecture sort of fits in a couple

95:02

buckets. It can be these standalone

95:04

skills like one skill one trigger.

95:06

What's really interesting to me are

95:07

these orchestrated pipelines because

95:09

then that this requires a little bit of

95:11

I think contact intelligence context

95:13

improvement. But I think this is the

95:15

future where you'll have just an

95:16

orchestrated pipeline

95:18

um a running multiple

95:20

running multiple skills which have

95:22

multiple effectively prompts in in in

95:24

those. So that's where I'm really

95:26

thinking about and we're sort of

95:27

building our own skills toolkit

95:29

um thinking about the sort of 10 phases

95:31

of investment process and thinking

95:34

through you know, different sort of

95:35

skills and skills workflows.

95:37

Um and these will all sort of like be

95:39

behind the scenes. I think ultimately

95:40

that feed back into an agentic agentic

95:43

agentic work platform. So that's my view

95:45

of like where this is all going.

95:48

Please push back disagree with me if you

95:51

disagree.

95:52

Um some some of this is like we can kind

95:54

of build this. So it's kind of fun. Like

95:55

I'm enjoying working with people because

95:58

um it's just wide open territory. Um the

96:01

measure is how do we build something

96:03

that's user-friendly for investors that

96:05

drives comprehension not AI slop. How do

96:08

we build validation systems around that?

96:10

And then ultimately it's like how does

96:11

that help you outperform? Right? Like if

96:14

if none of this helps you beat the

96:15

market by a wider margin, then it's

96:18

completely wasted motion. It's just AI

96:21

sort of AI psychosis, right?

96:24

Um I think ultimately like the PM job

96:25

will be uh change a lot from this as

96:28

well, too. As a PM this would be

96:30

insanely nice to be able to have a

96:31

research plan where I can go into all

96:33

300 stocks and have something like this.

96:36

A lot of this is like one by one it's

96:38

interesting, but the idea that this can

96:40

scale is transformational, right? So

96:43

across a 40 stock portfolio, if I can

96:45

hit the research plan button and for

96:47

every idea I have a catalyst path and

96:50

research activities, so I can see oh, in

96:53

three weeks the Chinese China VBP

96:55

report's coming out. Here are three

96:57

checks you can do on the China VBP to

96:59

get smart ahead of that catalyst. Hey

97:02

analysts, come into my office. You know,

97:03

this catalyst is coming up at we have

97:05

this portfolio exposure to China VBP. Do

97:08

we want that? Let's go do some checks.

97:09

Oh, it sounds like it's going to be more

97:11

you know, draconian than the market

97:13

expects. Let's flip that position and

97:15

let's be short into this, right? These

97:17

are sort of considerations that impact

97:18

your portfolio often today without

97:21

really sort of intent. Like there's a

97:23

cognitive limit of how many of these

97:24

things we can

97:26

pay attention to, right? Especially when

97:27

you're covering 300 stocks. Right? This

97:29

is

97:30

constant game of triage. As a PM like I

97:33

don't have the fourth at 4,700 hours to

97:35

ramp on everything, but I could do the

97:37

10 hour ramp on everything and I can

97:39

know my names that my PM my analysts are

97:41

pitching me

97:43

much more much more effectively. It

97:45

helps for teams like if an analyst is

97:46

pitching a name, you have 10 person

97:48

investment team, the other nine people

97:50

should run some sort of AI approach to

97:52

come in more prepared for that meeting

97:54

in my in my in my opinion, right? And so

97:57

you have these signals, you know,

97:58

topical briefs or data trackers and we

98:01

see hey, you know, there's a signal that

98:03

AI bio bioprocessing is hypothetic. AI

98:06

bioprocessing is slowing down. We have

98:08

this you know, biotech comment from the

98:10

Europe animal conference and we see this

98:11

data set showing you know, stacked

98:14

growth these sell. We're investing on

98:16

that based on an acceleration. Is there

98:18

is there a sort of a

98:20

a violation a narrative violation here?

98:23

Being able to sell the position quickly

98:25

ahead of you know, the rest of the world

98:27

figuring that out,

98:28

that's the game. That's how that's how

98:30

alpha

98:31

is is generated. So these automated

98:33

research drivers

98:35

um where you can sort of take a stock,

98:37

look at the key drivers and do automated

98:39

research around it. Again, with the sort

98:40

of it it depends.

98:42

You know, the way a long only will do

98:43

that is different than the way a

98:45

multi-manager world would do that.

98:47

What's interesting to me is like you can

98:49

blend some of these concepts now. What

98:50

do I mean by that? If I'm a [snorts] if

98:52

I'm in a long only now,

98:54

I don't want to get away from what makes

98:56

me great. Focusing on three to five year

98:58

hold periods, business quality

98:59

management, moat, patience and

99:01

conviction and mispriced.

99:03

But what I could do

99:04

is I could take the way multis think

99:07

about shorts.

99:09

I could take the way Tiger Cubs think

99:11

about shorts, right? What's yours?

99:13

Different, similar but different in

99:15

certain ways.

99:17

Um, and I could create agents, right?

99:21

Right? Across these two

99:23

investment styles,

99:26

across a 30-stock portfolio,

99:28

and every week I could have, you know,

99:30

the tiger style short report on every 30

99:34

of my names. The multi-manager short

99:36

report on every 30 my names, right? At

99:39

some point, that might they might pull

99:41

up something interesting, right? So, oh

99:43

wow, like the cake the bioprocessing is

99:45

decelerating and that means they're

99:47

going to miss the quarter, it means

99:48

their revenue is going to get cut. This

99:50

is Q3, they already had hockey stick

99:52

guide update, which is like the

99:53

multi-manager spiffy sort of thing. I

99:55

didn't realize that they're going to

99:56

guide next year, provide headwinds

99:59

tailwinds on this Q3 print. We've

100:01

already made money in the stock, maybe

100:03

this is a good time to sell the stock,

100:04

right? And so these can provide signals,

100:06

whereas when you're doing your job in in

100:09

a manual way, you're not going to go do

100:11

as as a long only, you're not going to

100:12

go do, you know, spend 30 40% of your

100:15

time on the earning season motion,

100:16

right? But you can turn that 30% of time

100:19

into 3% with that automated motion. I

100:22

think these I think the way investors

100:23

operate will converge

100:25

a little bit more with agents. We've

100:28

already seen that a little bit, the way

100:29

tiger cubs and multis operated in 2008

100:32

was very very different. It's much

100:34

closer. They sort of speak to speak the

100:36

language in 2026 much more much more

100:40

closer. So, it's a it's a continuation

100:41

of a trend. Last thing I'll last thing

100:43

I'll point out and then I'll take some

100:44

Q&A. And again, sorry for being so um

100:49

so so wordy.

100:51

Here there's a lot of exciting things to

100:52

to show is that

100:55

this is an adoption phase. I think what

100:57

what The other thing I see a lot of

100:58

people doing is hey, I do it this way.

101:01

Let me try to do it AI

101:03

approach and let me like speed run to a

101:06

future state.

101:07

And they're like not they're not getting

101:10

good outputs, right? Um, and I don't

101:13

think that's the right way to adopt this

101:15

this this this process. Um,

101:18

my sort of experience

101:21

having done this and sort of getting to

101:23

these outputs is that it's important to

101:25

have a parallel

101:27

phase. Whether it's a first dozen

101:29

projects, you actually sort of do it

101:30

both ways,

101:32

right?

101:32

That gives you an ability to test

101:34

comprehension,

101:36

to test

101:38

um, and train your skills. Hey, I did it

101:41

this way, I have this view. Oh, you set

101:43

you know, the AI system you have the

101:44

full context to then evaluate and debug

101:46

the AI system.

101:48

You can feed that back into your skills.

101:50

You're not going to get every single

101:51

one, but you can fix a lot of the errors

101:53

in your skill structure.

101:55

The nice part is that the AI system is

101:56

more efficient, so you're not going from

101:58

60 to 120 hours, you're going from 60 to

102:00

80, right? After you after you've had a

102:03

few

102:04

few of those, you can recalibrate back

102:05

in

102:07

and you can start to accelerate. This is

102:08

for my hypothesis. So, you can get back

102:10

down to at some point what used to take

102:13

me 60 hours, I can do in 30 hours in a

102:16

much more rigorous and signal rich way,

102:19

right? I don't know that people are like

102:20

there yet,

102:22

but that feels to me like something

102:24

that's now possible in 2026.

102:27

So, you want to spot check, you know,

102:29

parallel before you replace and and sort

102:31

of build the trust. Some of this is just

102:32

like building the trust and building the

102:35

intuition of the jagged

102:37

jagged jagged edges. Um, so I'm sort of

102:40

like in the

102:42

I'm excited about all this partly cuz I

102:44

I just see the things I just showed you.

102:47

Um,

102:48

that I think are um, so much different

102:51

than the chatbot interface, which was

102:53

kind of like

102:55

if you moved a bunch of paper and did a

102:57

lot of prompting, you could sort of like

102:59

see

103:00

high quality things,

103:02

but it didn't scale.

103:04

These things now to me

103:06

feel like they they can scale.

103:08

Um, so if if we can help, please reach

103:09

out. Brett at Fundamental Edge, not

103:11

Fundamental Edge. We're thinking about,

103:13

you know,

103:14

um, is our workflow context helpful IP

103:19

as a starting point? Um, you know, we

103:21

have I have sort of 15 years of putting

103:23

this whole thing uh, together.

103:26

Uh, sort of the workflow.

103:28

Um,

103:29

you know, training our core business is

103:30

training. Um,

103:31

I've been a teacher of investment

103:33

process for for a number of years

103:35

uh, now.

103:37

Um, I'm going back into covering stocks

103:40

in this AI way cuz I sort of like see

103:41

where the

103:43

where the

103:44

the gaps are.

103:45

Um, and um, I think there's a number of

103:48

quantamental priors I'm drawing upon of

103:50

like why things didn't work in

103:52

quantamental strategies.

103:54

Um, and even thinking about sort of

103:55

building some orchestrated skills uh,

103:57

skills pipelines.

103:59

Um,

104:00

and we're sort of rolling this into a

104:01

few things. Um,

104:03

we're going to a podcast. I think

104:04

there's now a lot of interesting people

104:05

to to bring on to a podcast to talk

104:07

about this in the public

104:09

arena. Um,

104:11

in sort of a hopefully a high trust high

104:13

trust way. Um, our AI accelerator, which

104:16

will uh, be a lot of the flavor of this,

104:18

but we'll sort of pick a workflow

104:20

pick a workflow a month and go deep into

104:23

actually helping the cohort build these.

104:25

Um, and then the sort of like the full

104:27

stack of enterprise

104:29

partnerships. Um, in the past we've done

104:31

some 3-hour 6-hour seminars get up to

104:34

speed. I don't find those that

104:36

intellectually satisfying and I don't

104:38

think they drive a lot of

104:41

>> [sighs and gasps]

104:42

>> process change. Um, so I think we're

104:45

pivoting that a little bit more to a

104:47

select group of like partnerships like

104:49

how at Fundamental Edge we can be a

104:50

fractional part of your team and I don't

104:52

think we have unlimited capacity

104:54

uh, for that. Um,

104:55

so we're thinking a little bit about

104:57

doing some of um

104:59

some of that as well uh, too. And like

105:01

always, we'll try and share we don't

105:02

want want everything behind a paywall

105:03

with the caveat like we're running a

105:05

a business um,

105:07

as well as well too. Um, so we'll try

105:10

and bring some of this. I try to sort of

105:12

do the iteration in my own mind on on

105:14

Twitter. I have an idea, I tweet it out.

105:16

We'll see if

105:18

people agree with that or disagree with

105:19

that. I get a lot of like my ideas are

105:21

sort of

105:22

I've always done that. My ideas develop

105:24

a lot in that arena of Twitter.

105:27

Um, and then I go back and build them

105:29

into

105:30

It's a cool way to create stuff. Um, so

105:32

in the this is available on YouTube that

105:34

that we did a couple weeks ago up to

105:35

speed with Claude CoWork. Um, I'm going

105:37

to show you some of the modeling with

105:38

Excel

105:39

um, in April April 30th. And then we'll

105:42

sort of wrap up this webinar series of

105:45

kind of the new investor dashboard. What

105:47

is the new investor dashboard? How do

105:49

you think about evaluating your process

105:52

and starting to think about your

105:53

investment dashboard. That could be in a

105:55

Perplexity computer, that could be in an

105:57

internal build, that could be in all

105:58

sorts of Claude CoWork if you can deal

106:00

with the pressing the button to approve

106:02

everything.

106:03

Um, and so this will be sort of the um

106:06

uh, yeah, I'm sort of like warming up my

106:08

own ideas too for some of the some of

106:09

the stuff candid. Um, so we're going to

106:12

continue to sort of refine and build

106:14

build that out. Um, and doing a little

106:16

bit of still like the foundational

106:18

seminar, customize it to

106:20

to your investment process, but we're

106:21

doing a little bit more of this like

106:23

build something first then go in and

106:25

sort of deploy it and teach it. Uh, I

106:27

think the workflow labs is where

106:29

ultimately we'll spend a lot of our time

106:30

of hey, let's take an let's take a

106:32

concept like financial modeling and

106:35

we'll bring our context architecture and

106:36

help you transform the way you're

106:39

you're you're building financial models.

106:40

So, I just spoke for almost 2 hours

106:43

straight, so I'm going to stop my share

106:45

and I will take I'll take

106:47

I'll take some questions. I don't know

106:49

if I will get to all of them. We had

106:52

incredible amount of um

106:54

we had incredible amount of interest. I

106:56

had almost had to up uh

106:58

um

107:00

almost had to up my Zoom

107:02

uh, capacity uh, for this. Um, but I'm

107:05

happy to take any questions. You can you

107:07

can

107:08

maybe just put them in the

107:09

um in the chat. Thanks to Ken.

107:13

Uh, I'm enjoying the crazy AI crazy

107:15

Brett AI train probably because it makes

107:17

me feel like I'm not the only one. So,

107:19

there.

107:21

Uh, thanks thanks for that.

107:23

Um,

107:24

all right, let's see. How do we do this?

107:26

Hello Andrew.

107:27

Are you there?

107:28

Hello. Would you mind just firing off

107:31

some some questions and I'll

107:33

I'll uh

107:34

Sure, going through these now.

107:37

Okay.

107:38

Uh, starting off um

107:40

there's [clears throat]

107:41

uh, there's there's one question which

107:42

goes, I guess at a high level as a long

107:45

short analyst taking on new coverage

107:47

while deep diving on industry specific

107:48

technology, what is the best way to

107:50

build out these AI simultaneously or

107:52

leverage tools to do so in your process?

107:55

Can you leverage other tools or just

107:57

spend a weekend trying to paint the

107:58

mosaic quicker once you're established

108:00

in a process?

108:02

Yeah, that's a I mean, it's a

108:05

I sympathize with all of you

108:07

um

108:09

trying to build and ramp on a new space

108:11

while also learning AI tools because I

108:14

feel like I am constantly behind not

108:16

investing and trying to keep keep up on

108:19

these tools.

108:20

Um,

108:21

so I think that's what we're thinking

108:23

about. Like that's why we're building

108:25

the accelerator too is sort of like what

108:28

are the three like in 3 hours a month,

108:30

how could we help you get smart on tools

108:32

and really distill things down? Um,

108:35

I'd say it's I'd say it's a hard. I

108:37

think the answer would be we try to just

108:38

show you a workflow of how to get up to

108:40

speed. Again, I would say like

108:42

the the opposite the sort of the obvious

108:44

point is it's not either or. If you're

108:46

trying to get get up to speed on a

108:47

space, you could run the AI augmented up

108:51

to speed and then you could do the full

108:53

workflow on your own, right? It could

108:55

just sort of steer

108:56

steer you towards what to pay attention

108:58

what to pay attention what to pay

109:00

attention to.

109:03

All right, here's kind of an easy one.

109:04

Hi Brett, you mentioned on the last call

109:06

that you were working on AI curriculum

109:07

for the Analyst Academy. Do you have a

109:09

better idea now of which monthly cohort

109:11

would start having access to that?

109:13

Yeah, so we're starting that in we're

109:14

starting that in um

109:16

in this um

109:17

in this in this uh session. The April

109:20

uh April 7th session was just launched.

109:23

Um

109:24

and what we're going to do we're sort of

109:25

revamping elements. There's sort of a

109:28

uh I think a interesting debate on how

109:30

much junior analysts should learn AI.

109:32

We've sort of been in the camp of build

109:34

the skeleton really rigorously before

109:35

you accelerate. Um but I think there are

109:38

some

109:40

uh areas where we're revisiting that not

109:42

to sort of touch the skeleton of the

109:44

investment process but to implement more

109:46

AI. So we're doing that in this cohort

109:48

and I think we'll continue to do that at

109:51

least having

109:52

you know, I'm building a we're building

109:53

a modeling course and it's 8 hours of

109:55

sort of deep you manual explanation of

109:59

building a model from scratch.

110:01

Partly because that articulation becomes

110:03

a really good skills architecture

110:05

to then accelerate that with AI. So the

110:08

program will be here's 8 hours on how to

110:10

build a model from scratch everything we

110:12

know about building a model from

110:13

scratch.

110:14

Um here's a skills architecture and a

110:17

way to use that to then go build and

110:19

update your own models, right? And so

110:22

like the the manual and the accelerated.

110:26

That's our mindset so that'll probably

110:28

be out in June or something. So that's

110:31

um

110:32

um

110:33

yeah, versus if you use one shot

110:34

directly into hey Claude build me a

110:36

model you're not going to get something

110:38

that that has the benefit of that

110:41

workflow workflow context.

110:44

Got it. This is one that you'll be able

110:46

to sympathize with. The question goes

110:49

thanks Brett. How long should we wait

110:50

for the winning abstraction? It seems

110:53

like there's a risk of getting left

110:54

behind if we don't stay on the leading

110:55

edge even if stuck in IDE wasted motion.

110:58

You know, I would push I would I don't

111:00

want to be like a I don't ever like to

111:02

flame people.

111:04

I would push back on virtually everyone

111:06

I've talked to who's claims they're

111:08

spending

111:10

hours and hours in open claw and claw

111:13

code. I'd be like great. Tell me how

111:15

that's improving your investment

111:17

process.

111:18

And they show me things that are like

111:20

not that helpful to be honest.

111:23

Um

111:24

so I would say like the risk now is not

111:26

really being left behind.

111:28

Um

111:29

I think the bigger and more acute risk

111:31

has been

111:32

spending hundreds of hours on things

111:35

that decay fast that decay fast and

111:37

don't drive investment results.

111:39

So I think if you're if you feel like

111:41

you're behind a little bit, it's great

111:43

news because I think a lot of the

111:44

workflow is obsoleted. Um

111:49

now that being said like having the like

111:51

learn having learn how to build prompts

111:54

and building prompts

111:56

becomes an intellectual foundation for

111:58

skills. So it's not like everything is

112:01

lost not everything is lost.

112:03

Um

112:04

but if you're just getting fresh on this

112:07

stuff for the first time I don't think

112:09

there's a concept of

112:11

uh it's not like oh you missed the bus.

112:13

I think that's like that's like AI

112:15

doomerism

112:17

um doomerism.

112:19

I I don't know if you have any evidence

112:21

of

112:22

you know, large funds driving incredible

112:25

incredible improving performance based

112:27

on AI. I don't I don't think it's

112:29

happening right now.

112:31

Where I think it's possibly happening is

112:32

in small generalist

112:35

firms that are that are really changing

112:37

their investment process who are going

112:40

going going rapidly. So if you're a

112:42

single person 30 million AUM PM analyst

112:47

and you're not using AI I'd be like go

112:50

do you know, like you need to be doing

112:52

that cuz I think that's where it can

112:54

really leverage what you're doing.

112:56

If you're an analyst at a multi covering

112:57

50 stocks and you haven't done anything

112:59

with AI it's like

113:01

probably better that you don't have the

113:02

scar tissue of all the wasted motion

113:04

that hasn't really

113:06

driven much in terms of investment

113:08

process. However, I think that's

113:10

changing now. So start to pay start to

113:12

pay attention.

113:14

Um

113:15

you know,

113:16

um

113:18

you know, pay attention to the Andre

113:19

Karpathy videos I go go listen to every

113:21

YouTube Andre Karpathy has you know, on

113:25

on YouTube.

113:27

All right, we've got another

113:30

kind of a comment in the chat. Your

113:32

workflow and research context can also

113:34

apply to any income and test debate

113:35

know-how and participation in the client

113:37

workflows and gold standard

113:39

authoritative data mode.

113:40

It's true. Here's a question. This is

113:42

kind of a

113:43

logistical one. Um

113:47

you know, we didn't see very much this

113:49

evening from Gemini or notebook LM.

113:52

There was a question asking about uh

113:56

why there was no mention.

113:59

I've never thought Gemini was I never

114:02

got the Gemini

114:04

the Gemini hype.

114:06

Um

114:07

I never once was able to to see Gemini

114:10

give me a better output than open AI or

114:12

Claude. I don't know about you. Um

114:16

maybe it's a skill issue.

114:18

Um

114:19

I've used I've used um

114:22

notebook LM I did use because it was

114:25

early to have the biggest context

114:26

window.

114:28

For things where I had a lot of context

114:30

to distill it down I used it. I think a

114:32

lot of that gets solved now with MCPs. I

114:34

you don't have to upload K's and Q's

114:36

anymore.

114:37

Um

114:38

so

114:40

um

114:41

I still have like I'm a yeah, I

114:43

I don't I mean

114:46

to me it's not um

114:48

to me it was always like not nearly as

114:49

good as the other as the others.

114:52

But that's my personal. We have a a

114:54

question which goes retrieval is key for

114:57

many reasons. Is this better in

114:59

perplexity computer versus Claude and if

115:01

so, why?

115:03

So Claude one of the early issues with

115:05

Claude Excel is that retrieval breaks a

115:07

lot.

115:09

And when retrieval breaks a lot

115:12

what Claude does is it goes to the open

115:14

web to pull the number.

115:16

It's like bad Claude do not do that,

115:19

right? I do not want Amazon's you know,

115:22

2025 revenues pulled from a blog, right?

115:26

That is like I don't know where the

115:28

these bloggers are getting their numbers

115:29

but they're just like never right. It's

115:31

like

115:32

amazing.

115:34

So that is still as of like a week and a

115:36

half ago still inconsistent. I talked to

115:39

I talked to to Claude about that and

115:41

they're sort of figuring that out.

115:43

Um

115:44

you know, a big if you're doing anything

115:46

quantitative like figure out an MCP

115:49

uh it's not that hard to connect MCPs

115:52

into these and there are some low cost

115:54

facts that want a 10K.

115:56

I'm a subscriber to FactSet and they

115:59

want another 10K to plug in their MCP.

116:02

So I'm not doing that but there are some

116:04

great MCPs out there

116:07

um

116:07

where you can um you don't have to

116:10

upload the K's and Q's anymore. You can

116:12

get you can get

116:14

uh get perplexity computer like to just

116:17

sort of refine there. I'm not saying

116:19

like this thing is like game ready

116:21

today.

116:22

I'm saying it's the closest thing I've

116:24

seen to what I think the future looks

116:25

like. There are still some some

116:29

retrieval issues.

116:31

Now perplexity has gone early in finance

116:33

so they have their own data MCP

116:36

and it's been pretty good and not not

116:38

perfect and not perfect. So it still has

116:41

it still has plenty of errors.

116:43

I think the the

116:45

to get it institutional grade will

116:47

require connectors MCPs

116:50

um

116:51

uh connectors MCPs

116:54

um and sort of the data the data mode

116:57

data mode internally.

116:59

There there's a related question which

117:01

goes do you feed your Claude all the

117:03

company docs 10K 10K etc. when asking a

117:05

questions? Have you automated this or

117:06

can Claude access these on its own?

117:08

Well, it's kind of like Brett was saying

117:10

you know, if you don't uh

117:14

issue of just searching out on the open

117:15

web and you won't know where it came

117:17

from.

117:18

Yeah, I think the the core pedagogical

117:20

approach of the AI Academy in September

117:22

25 was like go find all the documents,

117:25

upload the documents, create a prompt

117:28

and then after you did that you get some

117:30

pretty interesting outputs.

117:32

And it's like okay, well

117:34

I cover 150 stocks and there's 306

117:37

prompts. How do you scale that? And that

117:40

was like

117:41

people ask I'm like good question. I

117:43

don't know. Um

117:46

so it's a little bit of like showing

117:47

what's possible showing that the

117:49

intelligence was there. And I think we

117:51

got some really interesting outputs.

117:54

Um

117:55

you know, one intelligence improved to

117:57

the engineering is like okay, you could

117:59

scale this, right? Like I feel like I

118:01

feel like you can you know, with a small

118:03

engineering team you could build a

118:04

dashboard

118:06

for your

118:07

uh and sort of powered by the skills

118:09

architecture and and um

118:11

skills architecture and research context

118:16

that um

118:17

you know, and it and it just works. Like

118:19

you don't have to do the tickerization

118:21

and OCR and vector database retrieval

118:25

all those sort of engineering things.

118:28

Um and some of this is like I'm just

118:30

staring at the line too. So I'm like

118:32

well at the line of improvement is like

118:34

this.

118:36

Like okay, if mythos is what everyone

118:38

like all these like weirdos that say

118:40

it's too good to release like says it

118:42

says it is like we can't release this

118:43

thing cuz it's like too good like oh

118:45

sure Dario like um but if mythos is as

118:48

good as people say if Dario if you're

118:50

listening, what's up? Um

118:52

if mythos is as good as people say it is

118:55

then intelligence improves

118:57

um you know, that the MCPs get better,

119:00

you know, more more of more things get

119:03

uh sort of abstracted. Um

119:06

you know, you still need to sort of like

119:07

tell it what to do and how to do it. But

119:10

you sort of you know, like it more and

119:11

more feels like everyone be like, "Oh,

119:13

2026 is the cursor moment for finance."

119:17

I'm like, "Get out of here." And I'm

119:18

like,

119:19

"Okay, like yeah, I could I could start

119:21

to see I could start to I could start to

119:22

see it."

119:23

Um

119:24

Now again, it's like that's a different

119:26

thing cuz code is deterministic code is

119:28

very different than non-deterministic

119:30

prob- you know, probability assessments

119:32

on public equities.

119:34

Um where it's like an adaptive adaptive

119:37

ecosystem.

119:39

Got um kind of two uh administrative

119:42

ones. One question goes, "In the AI

119:44

Academy, do we leave with some sort of

119:45

library of skills or a skeleton of a

119:48

process to enrich?"

119:50

Yeah, so we'll we'll likely do that.

119:52

We're we're we're we're figuring that

119:53

out right now.

119:55

Um

119:56

Question from Routing 2, "Can I sign up

119:57

for the AI Academy 2.0 without the with

119:59

without the content of AI Academy 1.0?"

120:01

Yeah, I think we're what we'll likely do

120:03

is anyone who signed up for the AI

120:04

Academy in 2026 will sort of roll them

120:07

in

120:08

um

120:09

with zero cost. And then the last years

120:12

we'll do some sort of discount and

120:14

um and then we'll um

120:17

um

120:17

we'll have some sort of like the idea

120:19

some of these webinars is like, "This is

120:22

what you can do now."

120:24

Right? This is possible.

120:26

The AI Accelerator is like, "Okay, this

120:29

this this month we're going to build,

120:31

you know, an idea generation engine."

120:34

Um

120:34

"Here's our idea generation skill.

120:37

Here's the orchestrated pipeline. Here's

120:40

the interview questions to ask

120:41

yourself."

120:43

Um "And at the end of the month, how do

120:46

you have a working idea generation

120:49

engine base you know, calibrating from

120:51

our context architecture to do that." Um

120:55

And rather than one shot everything that

120:58

will decay, maybe we'll maybe the be

121:00

something after skills in 6 months, who

121:02

knows, right? We'll just do it month by

121:04

month to basically help you

121:07

stay up to speed and implement. Um So

121:10

give us give us a a few more

121:12

give us a few more um

121:14

um

121:15

weeks on that and we'll have some more

121:17

specifics. We're yeah, we're just

121:18

figuring it out to be honest right now.

121:21

Um

121:21

Like how do you teach AI when things are

121:23

changing at such a such a rapid pace is

121:26

like a really hard

121:28

thing. I took an MIT AI course one time

121:32

and I signed up and paid and then I I

121:33

looked and it was like from 20 the

121:35

content was from 2021 or something. I'm

121:37

like, "What the hell?"

121:39

Um

121:39

so you you want to be really careful.

121:42

Um

121:43

So um

121:45

um

121:45

so yeah, that's uh that's uh that's uh

121:50

Uh there's a question which goes

121:52

um you know, it's kind of about the

121:54

jagged edge and a little bit of the

121:55

bugginess uh in using AI. But the

121:57

question goes, "Wondering to what degree

121:59

these up-to-speed use cases through

122:01

Perplexity Computer you showed us is

122:03

replicable if Co-work is still buggy.

122:05

How about Cloud Project or Perplexity

122:07

Pro?"

122:09

Yeah, you can do you can you can you can

122:11

take a

122:13

Skills files are just like zip it's like

122:15

text files in a zip file, right? And so

122:19

you can take a skill file. They're very

122:23

easily transferable.

122:25

Um You can share them in a group

122:27

platform, right? I think like the these

122:29

dashboards will have like shared skills.

122:31

So if you're at if you're at a you know,

122:34

if you have an investment firm of 500,

122:37

right? I think it's like possible today

122:39

like turn you on with a dashboard and

122:40

have a shared skills, but then ability

122:43

to customize those to your specific

122:46

use case. Your biotech analyst is going

122:48

to have a different skills architecture

122:50

than your banks analyst, obviously. So

122:52

it's going to be different sort of

122:53

workflows. Um

122:56

uh diff- diff- different workflows. And

122:58

these these are portable between Claude

123:00

and Perplexity and whatever OpenAI comes

123:03

comes out with. So they're like very

123:05

easily portable.

123:07

What I noted is like Claude and some of

123:09

this like ChatGPT

123:12

early iterations couldn't write prompts

123:14

well.

123:14

It didn't have the capability. So you

123:16

had to write them by hand.

123:18

You waited a couple model iterations.

123:21

There was enough education on prompting

123:24

in the training corpus

123:25

and sort of you know, people suspected

123:28

that the models are to train on the

123:30

right prompts. And then all of a sudden

123:32

like in a prompt writing competition,

123:34

any of the LLMs going to blow you or me

123:36

away.

123:37

So we're kind of at that stage with

123:38

skills now. It's buggy, but I'm guessing

123:42

you know, it will it will it will

123:44

improve.

123:45

Uh we got one from the webinar chat. Um

123:50

the question goes

123:52

uh so to dumb it down, it seems like the

123:53

key here is building out skills that are

123:55

used for repeatable tasks and then you

123:58

can call on those skills to accomplish

123:59

what you want. Um

124:02

That's the that's the first part of the

124:04

question.

124:05

Uh

124:07

yeah, I think the I think the

124:10

the area to focus now is like

124:14

if you were to write a book on on your

124:16

investment process, right? Um

124:19

It's like go write a book on your

124:20

investment process. Why you what you do,

124:22

why, where you've been most successful,

124:25

where you failed. Um if you look at an

124:28

idea, what are the 30 two steps you walk

124:30

through on the idea? Like turn the turn

124:32

the

124:33

uh the knowledge in your head into like

124:36

put it on paper.

124:37

Um That to me has been the the highest

124:40

leverage in sort of this abstracted

124:43

world. Um So second part is I should I

124:46

should spend my time building skills. I

124:47

would say no.

124:49

I would say,

124:51

"Use your time articulating what you do

124:53

and why.

124:55

Have an agent build the skills and then

124:58

just use them and then debug them. The

125:01

debugging process is is a

125:03

big and important process here." Um

125:07

So the actual like AI part of like what

125:10

you do is like not that it's not that

125:12

it's not that um it's not that

125:14

cumbersome.

125:17

You know, kind of a related thing uh

125:18

there's a question from the the Q&A bar

125:21

which um

125:22

it's kind of uh what advice would you

125:23

have for creating our own skill files?

125:27

I think the I think the to me it's like

125:29

the meta skills workflow is

125:32

get very

125:34

you know, spend a lot of time

125:37

you know, ambiguity is the is the is the

125:40

enemy of output and working with AI.

125:43

That's been the case from from the

125:44

beginning.

125:46

And so a lot of the workflow is

125:49

disambiguation,

125:50

right? How do you just get very very

125:53

specific?

125:54

Um

125:55

And that context

125:59

of how you operate is going to be sort

126:02

of create

126:04

you know, the curve the exoskeleton that

126:06

you wrap around your process.

126:08

So So a question on the

126:10

you know,

126:11

uh uh Karpathy's talked about a second

126:13

brain with Obsidian and Claude and you

126:15

have all of your contacts in Obsidian

126:18

and it sort of feeds into your It's a

126:20

similar concept. I don't

126:22

Again, like I I I

126:25

All these like fancy, "Oh, you got to

126:26

use Obsidian and all these things." Like

126:28

it doesn't it's not that deep, guys.

126:30

It's like you can do it in a Word

126:31

document. Like you don't have to be like

126:33

it may sound cool like, "Oh, I have a

126:35

second brain with Obsidian that's like

126:38

connected via MCP to Claude, you know,

126:41

my Claude." It's not that I

126:43

Okay, cool. If you want to sound cool,

126:45

do that. If you want to buy Apple minis

126:47

and run open claw um for AI productivity

126:50

theater, like knock yourself out. That's

126:53

not what I'm trying I'm not trying to

126:54

hack things to like sound cool. I'm

126:56

trying to get good outputs without

126:59

spending hundreds of hours doing those

127:00

things.

127:02

So

127:03

um

127:04

And if that doesn't work, maybe I'll

127:05

have to go learn those things. But like

127:06

what happens now is like my context

127:09

documents are like in a Word file. And

127:11

then I upload the Word file into

127:13

Perplexity Computer and it creates a

127:15

context architecture that I think is

127:18

good. And so

127:20

um

127:21

that's um

127:22

I don't think you need to you don't need

127:23

to

127:24

We're we're getting a lot of noise up

127:26

here of like, "Oh, if you don't have a

127:27

second brain with a If you don't have a

127:29

second brain with Obsidian, you're going

127:31

to be part of the permanent underclass."

127:32

I'm like, just come like there's so much

127:35

there's so much of that out there right

127:37

now.

127:38

Um

127:39

And that I just don't think is

127:41

productive. It makes us feel like

127:42

everyone's behind and and I don't think

127:44

that's the case.

127:46

Yeah, gives people a sense of do

127:48

something ideas and they just think if

127:50

they do something then they'll be okay.

127:51

So that you know, there isn't the

127:52

clarity of process where you know, if

127:54

the technology catches up uh having a

127:57

clean articulation of your process is a

127:59

great jumping-off point. Yeah. But a

128:01

quick one here, would you be able to

128:03

share the cheaper MCP you mentioned that

128:04

could be used at a small shop?

128:06

Is it a a financial modeling prep has

128:08

one, I think.

128:10

Um

128:11

Uh I use I like the Dilupa one. I think

128:15

FinChat has one.

128:18

Um

128:20

You know, go check

128:21

like I like Grok to sort of go ask these

128:24

questions cuz there's so much like AI

128:26

happens on X, basically.

128:28

So if you have a question like this, go

128:30

into Grok and it will go and pull

128:32

conversations from from X. That's what I

128:35

would do.

128:36

Um

128:37

to get the get the specifics. And then

128:39

one question, can you share your skills

128:40

file? We're not going to share them now.

128:42

We're trying to figure figure this out

128:44

as part of our business. Um

128:46

Listen, we train humans.

128:48

That's sort of [laughter] like our our

128:50

core business. We have six instructors,

128:52

five on the ops team. Like we train

128:54

humans how to invest. Um And so there is

128:57

a little bit of this for us is like

129:00

what does our business look like in

129:02

in 3 years, in 5 years?

129:05

Um

129:06

So I don't I my personal opinion right

129:09

now is like seat counts aren't going to

129:10

be are going to be, you know, impaired

129:13

because um

129:16

you know, yes, it'll make the current

129:18

invest investors more effective, but uh

129:20

it will be, you know, the game will just

129:22

get more competitive. Like the frontier

129:23

will shift to primary research or other

129:26

other considerations.

129:28

Um

129:28

Certainly like the big firms, I don't

129:30

think, you know, maybe if you're small

129:32

under-resourced, you maybe you thought

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you needed an analyst, but you don't

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anymore. So I think it'll be

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incremental. I think it also opens a

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path towards um

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you know, launching a fund, right? Like

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in the past, I, you know, from time to

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time when I get the bug to to to get

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back in the game of investing, I'm like,

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well, damn, I need like three analysts

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and a CEO COO, and I got to burn a

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couple million bucks to like get to

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institutional scale. I'm like,

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well, maybe well, maybe I can do that

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with a much lower

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much lower maybe I need one analyst

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who's you know, one one ops uh

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So I think um you've seen an ex- you've

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not an explosion, you've seen

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acceleration in entrepreneurship. Um

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So maybe you see some reduction in um

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head count in existing seats, but maybe

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you see more people throwing their

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uh throwing their head. Maybe you see

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fundamental edge capital at some point

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in 2028. Um

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That's an AI augmented uh AI augmented

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exoskeleton capital

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um in 2028. I did just save that that

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domain. Um I own exoskeleton.com.

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exoskeletoncap.com. So maybe you know,

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maybe that happens at some point um

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that you see more you see sort of like

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single manager launch has been

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incredibly difficult to

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to launch a single manager fund partly

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because break-even's 50 million, 75

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million AUM to do it with a good like

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really good uh institutional grade

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investment process.

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If you can do that um in an AI augmented

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way, break-even's come down come down a

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lot.

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Um

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So maybe you see just more more, you

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know, like a resurgence of fundamental

131:14

investing. And if if you can tie it back

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to

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you know, 5% alpha, if all those funds

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can risk manage more effectively and

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generate more alpha, you could see a

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resurgence of small one, two, three

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single-man shops that beat the market by

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5 to 10%. Um

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in a world where, you know, you know,

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beta is beta is expensive and private

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markets are expensive and market

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microstructure as a setup is is is sort

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of you know, tips favorably for uh

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individual stock picking, concentration

131:46

indices, etc. So I'm like pretty bullish

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on

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>> [snorts]

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>> you know, I'm a I'm a I'm a, you know,

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it's like asking a barber for if you

131:53

need a haircut, like, you know, I you

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would expect me to be bullish, but I'm

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pretty bullish on fundamental investing

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writ large uh over the next decade.

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Uh

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Matan, can we send our learnings your

132:05

way and compare notes? Yes, please do.

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Uh email me, uh DM,

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um love to connect. That's a lot of how

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I learn all these things is conversation

132:15

debates. Um

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you know, I'm

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I I'm I'm pretty busy right now.

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Um so if I don't get back to you right

132:23

away,

132:24

please don't take that personally.

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Um We're building a bunch of things.

132:29

Um revamping a lot of our our work. So

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um

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So um but yeah, I'd love to I'd love to

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even if it's exchanging DMs on Twitter

132:37

or email, would love to um would love to

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um

132:41

would love to do that. All right. So

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that's probably a pretty good two two

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hours and 16 minutes.

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Um

132:47

My marketing team says to keep YouTubes

132:48

to 15 minutes or less cuz people don't

132:50

have the time and attention for

132:52

for two hours, but I can't help myself.

132:54

Um So um

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I hope this was helpful. We'll come back

132:58

in 2 weeks, talk about modeling, and um

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um you know, sort of stay in touch. Uh

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expect more from us in this area. We are

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um uh spending pretty much 100% of our

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time

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um figuring this out right now.

133:15

Um and uh so we'll continue to iterate

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and explore. Uh thanks for your time.

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Thanks for the questions. And um

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yeah, please stay in touch.

Interactive Summary

In this webinar, the speaker discusses the integration of AI tools, specifically agents and skills architecture, into a fundamental investment research process. He emphasizes moving away from simple chatbot prompts toward agentic workflows that enhance rigor, comprehension, and productivity. The speaker presents his journey of using AI to ramp up coverage on 157 stocks, advocating for a system of 'up-to-speed' triage and 'in-the-flow' monitoring, while warning against AI-generated 'slop' and stressing the necessity of human validation and deep understanding of business drivers.

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