Melania didn't want none of this [ __ ]

>> She doesn't.

>> Melania thought she was going to marry a

rich dude who would sit in a corner and

eat McDonald's while she go spends his

money and bang yacht bros in Monaco on

the side. [music]

Hi everyone, this is Pivot from New York

Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast

Network. I'm Cara Swisser and I'm

kicking off yet another week of

Got Bree August.

I literally I would play that all year

if I could. Scott is still away missing

me terribly. Of course, he hasn't been

in touch at all. He of course fancies

himself a a comedian, but for today's

episode, I brought in the real deal, Roy

Wood Jr., Emmy winning comedian, actor,

and producer and host of CNN's satirical

news quiz, which I've been on and will

be on very soon, actually. Have I got

news for you. Welcome, Roy.

>> Thank you for having me. You know, and I

know that Scott is listening to us in

Meta Jail in the wait room right now,

and I just want to say to him, we only

do two days, the day in, day out, you

know, tell the truth.

>> Well, he's allegedly is on vacation, and

uh but I I don't know. I think he's he's

posting a lot more recently, so he's

obviously has to weigh in on the news.

Like he he's dying because Natalie Harp

is happening right now, which is a

problem.

>> How do you think I feel? CNN's had me

dark for three months.

>> I know that's true. You got Trump

tapping dead people's caskets. You've

got the It's It's been a lot. It's been

a lot.

>> Explain the show. I love your show. I've

been on it several times. I'll be on it

really soon in a couple of weeks. I

think

>> it for the people haven't watched it.

It's for 30 years the show is run in

Britain where the way they disseminate

the news is they ask panelists qu it's a

fake quiz show about current events and

you don't have to know [ __ ] In fact,

it's funnier if you don't. And by the

end of the hour, you, me, Amber Ruffin,

and Michael Ian Black, we have figured

out everything this week. The way I try

to differentiate where Have I Got News

sits in the Oliver Daily Show verse of

political satire is that we are here to

simply tell you what happened.

We don't have the time to get into why

and who and what is the solution and the

deep dive, but then you also need to

know that a dude got himself kicked out

of a WNBA game.

>> Right. Right.

>> And there was a green dildo. Like we

want to cover the gamut.

>> Yeah. Explain the green dildo.

[laughter]

>> I don't think as a man I can explain. I

don't know

>> why green.

>> I don't know. Well, no. You know what?

as a man probably it is my

responsibility.

>> Yeah, it is the women throwing them like

everyone's like men in trans people in

the WNBA. There's no trans people in the

W. There's just straight men throwing

dildos. So that's the problem.

>> Even then running stand on it.

>> Yeah. Stand on it. Stand

>> throw a dildo. Just say, "Hey, it was

me."

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> I'd like to have a conversation about

politics then.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Would you ever throw a

dildo?

>> Have you? I don't know if I'd ever touch

a dildo.

>> Like I they just they all they all look

>> used,

>> you know? It's just it's a hygiene

thing. It's like if you saw a naked

straw. I just assume it's been in

somebody's mouth.

>> Okay. But question, why would why would

a man do that? I mean, it's just like

they're have the ladies are having a

good time. Lots of people are having a

good time. Have you ever been to a WNBA

game? They're fun.

>> Yeah. I've gone to a couple of Liberty

games uh with my son and it's it's

always a great time. It's packed.

They're chanting. They're yelling. I

mean, I was going back when they were

still at Madison Square before they even

made the move out to Barclays.

It's It's a great time. It's great

basketball. It's great competition. I

don't understand

why people are trying to use that sport

at its rise, but they're going to get

the new CBA. Caitlyn Clark just put up

37 earlier this week. Angel Reese is

doubling doubling her ass off. You got

the young woman up in Minnesota, the

spectacle, which one of the dopest

nicknames right now. Uh, Madam Miles.

Much respect to the spectacle up there

with the links. Um, I just I just think

that it's just dudes trying to get

attention.

>> Yeah. for liberals.

Why is it that liberals, and I'll

include myself in this bucket,

why have we not learned that not

reacting is probably a more effective

way. Now, dildo is a totally separate

thing, dildo throwing. But in the sense

of a lot of people that are trying to

make a name for themselves by bathing

themselves in liberal outrage,

we supply the outrage in which they

bathe themselves, which makes themselves

a right-wing martyr and then they're

able to build whole media empires off of

that.

>> Yeah. I think that that's nearing an

end, I have to say, because I think

what's interesting is I was just

thinking about this. It's the right that

winges all the time now and is very like

what's the it's they're like anti-woke

woke if that makes sense. And I think

the dildos and the throwing is you know

this is a successful group of women and

there's some controversy like in all

sports right men's basketball has had

all kinds of controversy. They just

can't stand it and so they have to say

look at me

>> and just you know it depends. This issue

feels like one that you could kind of

you could kind of starve the people who

are starved for attention.

>> Just kick them out of the the arena they

throw, right? Yeah. Just kick them in

and that's the end of it. Not talking

about go back to your show. So you're

just So you This is what your third

season, fourth season.

>> This is this will be number five back in

September. This will be this will be the

fifth cycle of the show again. So

>> it's doing really well if they wouldn't

bring it back if it wasn't. But how do

you how do you why what do you attribute

that to?

>> I think that we

I number one I think CNN is the right

network for the show because we get to

exist on a Saturday night and they they

pair us with Bill Maher or there's

usually like a special interest story or

something else going on on that day. I

think that we are light, we are fun, we

are fast through the topics, so you

don't necessarily feel like you're

consuming an entire meal.

>> Yeah. But I I do think comedy has done

been a lot more pointed whether it's

Oliver or the Daily Show or you guys

than news programs to get to the point

of the idiocy surrounding people.

>> Yeah. I because I think comedians are

given a little bit more leeway than the

average news anchor. you know, god

forbid you call a spade a spade and you

just work for a Sinclair outlet or

something, you know, you working in

market 12 or market 20, they're not

going to give you that leeway. And

>> I think also

>> it's understood that it's comedy because

you know what's really funny is that

>> I have said stuff on Friday night on

Abby Phillip that gets me stared at.

>> Oh.

>> And then I'll do the same joke on

Saturday.

>> Uhhuh. [laughter] at Have I Got News and

it gets an applause break. So, I think

it's also the comedic expectation. You

know, when Abby, they do the show down

at the cooking

>> Yeah. the cooking thing. Yeah.

>> Food Network. I want to be respectful to

the place. And also, you're with four

people who are dead ass serious and they

written notes down all day. And he's a

real journalist. And I'm sitting here

looking goofy in a curves hat.

>> Yeah. [laughter]

>> Trying to crack a joke and

>> they're not with it. No, some of them

are not journalists and they just say

things off the top of their [ __ ]

head.

>> That is very nice suits though.

>> Nice suits and something. All right, one

last question about your show. Which who

do you like better, Amber or Michael?

>> Really?

>> Don't Don't turn this into a race war

cuz you you know I'm going to pick the

black woman. Yeah, you're going to set

me up and then they're going to clip

this little section and Roy [laughter]

Wood hates black women and never No. Um,

Michael I've always known from the

standup circuit.

>> Amber I've known, you know, I've had a

longer, deeper relationship with Amber

than I have Michael.

>> So, there's definitely like a synergy.

What's funny on the show is that a guest

will say something. We had Tim Burchett

on uh right-wing Tennessee uh Tennessee

man and Burchett says something over to

this side of me and on in my peripheral

on the other side I see Amber just move

it's a it's the slightest scoch of a

move and I go oh no she's going to get

him.

>> Oh no [sighs] she did

>> just stay out of the way Roy just stay

out of the way. And I just literally

leaned back so her words could fly

across the disc. My hope this year is to

have you and Bmani Jones.

>> Oh, all right.

>> On the same episode.

>> Oh, great. Okay,

>> that's dream episode number one. Dream

episode number two is you with any

sitting Republican um elected official.

>> Please, please. Why? Why am I good with

that?

>> And mom Donnie, cuz you're just supposed

to say that cuz New York Maybe I should

tweet. That's how he shows up.

>> Yeah, he's he won't do an interview with

me. He does an interview with everybody.

He won't do an interview with me. I

don't know.

>> Really? You got to tweet about it. You

got to go mom D. I bet you won't show up

to this pothole.

>> I Yeah. Show up to I called him months

and months and months before he won,

like six, seven before he was a thing.

And I just thought he was so interesting

and I'm just telling you crickets. I

don't know what it is.

>> Do you think that you of all the people

that have ignored your request for

interviews, do you think they are, is

there any common theme? Do you think

they're intimidated by you? I don't

know. Some people like, yes, I think

some like Tim Scott like turned me down

a hundred million times and I get it. I

get it. I I also have not a huge amount

of regard for how he behaves. Um but uh

and I say it, I guess I I've said it. Um

but I I would have been fair. I had Tom

Telis on. I thought he was great and we

disagreed completely, but he had the

guts to come on and he was actually made

some very good points and it was a very

good I thought it was a great

discussion. Um, even though we didn't

agree, I think the commonality is they

think I'm going to get them when in fact

I end up having much more substantive

discussions with people and I'm not a

gotcha person. I just I what I do is I

say things out loud and I suppose with

mom Donnie I won't slather him with

idolatry. I guess a lot of I find a lot

of interviews do that or or and then

even the right-wing ones when he goes on

those shows sometimes they sort of are

like they like Trump they find him

charming right he's super charming and

super has got a lot of star power so

maybe he thinks I'm I'm maybe it's Scott

Galloway he doesn't like Scott Galloway

I don't know I don't [laughter]

>> I'll blame Scott for everything anyway

um let let's go we got a lot to get to a

great show the show is great I'm excited

to come on and put me on with whoever

you

Um, mom,

>> and pardon the bicycles in the

background if there's any. I'm in

Amsterdam, so I don't I just want you to

know.

>> Oh, nice. I love

>> There's a lot of bicycles there. They're

very aggressive with the bicycles,

actually. When you when you ride,

>> I got to the airport and like at the

airport, they have like literally as

you're headed to customs,

>> there's just a black dude and a black

woman on a like as you come down the

escalators like welcome to Amsterdam and

it's black people riding tandem.

>> Yeah, I would try it for you. I had a

great time doing, but they're super

aggressive. But let's get to the things.

Uh, speaking of other countries, Donald

Trump is lashing out at Canada, saying

they are among the worst nations in the

world to deal with and will no longer be

treated like will will be treated like a

state. No longer. They are not a state.

This outburst comes after US Canada

trade talks collapsed late last week

when Canada walked away. And Canadian

Prime Minister Mark Carney says the US

introduced lastminute demands that were

unfair and uneconomic. And he would know

he's a he's a banker. He's he's run

treasuries, everything else. With no

deal, Trump's 50% tariffs went into

effect on a range of Canadian goods,

including dairy products, alcohol, and

hockey equipment. Trump is also now

threatening to increase tariffs on all

cars, car parts, and steel from Canada,

to 50% starting January 1st. Mark Connie

says uh Canada will retaliate dollar for

dollar with tariffs of its own and spoke

Canada about where the relationship

between the two countries stand. Let's

listen. Why does it feel like today Mark

Carney is going to war? Trade war. The

tone

>> I because we're attacked. Um like you're

at war when you get attacked. We got

attacked.

>> Is Canada really a country we want to be

going to war with right now or trade

war? War. Trade war.

>> No, they they aren't. And I think the US

has really established themselves as

you know we're the country without a

country. Like, do we have any allies

left that aren't begrudging

and like have no choice but to be with

us because it it's an economic

disadvantage to not rock with us. I like

Crown Royal. I hate that it's more

expensive. I know there's bigger issues

at stake here when we're talking.

>> No, but it's part of the thing. It's

part of Yeah. kind of sucks. But I I

think that I think we live in a time now

where just Trump is just a like our

government is just going to bully other

nations for no reason even if they don't

even if it doesn't make any sense. And

so it does not help us. It also

decimates small businesses that do a lot

of business across the border. So both

ways, you know what I'm saying? So I

just I don't I don't know. But I think

if you're Canada at this point, there's

no sense in bending the knee. you may as

well just ride this out for the next two

years if you're really going to be

serious about it,

>> right? Well, maybe just a few months.

You may not have the power to do much of

anything in November after.

>> Yeah. Come November. I I also love that

he's rescended the thing that they

didn't even want in the first place,

which was statehood. [laughter]

You were you were no longer invited to

my party. All right.

they, you know, they would deal they

they do have a conservative movement

there, but the they do not they have not

yet won uh elections. They have for in

in certain areas, but it's not Trump

conservatism. The one one or two people

are like that.

>> But even with the conservative movement,

even with the way that American

conservative politics have influenced

international conservatism, I don't

think that anyone in any of these other

nations has a desire to be America. Like

they're still prideful people,

Canadians, regardless. So they're not

dying to run with us and do everything.

Like even if you got a full-blown

conservative, you know, parliament or

whatever in Canada,

I don't know if that fixes Trump's

desire to want to like still kind of,

you know, put his pinky on put his pinky

on the scale of foreign trade with

Canada.

>> Why is he doing it? Why do you think

he's doing it this time? Did he get mad?

I mean,

to push back.

>> I I need wins and if you're not going to

do what I want you to do, then I'm just

gonna take my ball and you know what?

I'll show you. And then more

importantly, this is somehow rolled up

into a ball in PR and sold to American

voters as a win for America.

>> I don't reverse.

>> Yeah. But they're not like that anymore,

which is interesting. One of the things

that's really interesting is Canada is

one of the few neighbors of countries

that hasn't gotten into big wars with

their neighbors, right? They've been

excellent neighbors for a long, long,

long time.

>> Good for him.

>> Anyway, let's move on. The Paramount

Warner Brothers merger saga continues.

>> Oh Lord.

>> California AG Rob Bont just called off

settlement talks with Paramount,

accusing Paramount of acting in bad

faith, leaking details of a meeting and

misrepresenting discussions. Bont is

leading the 12 state group that sued to

block the merger. There's also a

separate suit by WGA. Both cases are set

to go to trial in March. Paramount

agreed to pause the deal until the cases

play out or until June when the costs

are going to start piling up. Uh they're

going to they're going to really start

piling up in September with these

ticking fees. But if it doesn't come to

fruition by June, it's another almost $8

billion they have to pay and the deal

would probably be over. Though Paramount

is now asking a judge to make the states

and the WGA put up $1.88 88 billion

dollar bond to cover those delay costs,

which is unprecedented. Well, you

probably thought you were free of

Paramount when you left the Daily Show,

but now you're at CN. They're pulling

you. But you're not. Your show is

licensed, correct? Just like that.

>> Licensed, but nothing's none of this is

guaranteed. They shoot whole movies and

then don't release them as the cast of

Batgirl.

>> But they it's like me and this Paramount

merger. You know that movie it follows

where that thing just no matter where

you go it's coming for you [laughter]

cuz and then before that it was the CBS

Viacom Comedy Central.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> So I can't escape it. I'm just a merger

magnet baby. I I don't I don't know what

this means for CNN as a whole because

I've also heard within this merger talk

that there's there's kind of two

scenarios. You know, there was scenario

one where CNN wasn't going to be part of

it. Then Ellison came out and said, "No,

no, no. We want CNN. I want it to be run

right. We're going to We promise to keep

it

>> promise." Yeah.

>> Neutral and we're not going to Fox 2.0.

Yeah.

>> But then there's also a world where CNN

still gets sold off, you know, somewhere

else. I I think that's [sighs and gasps]

>> if we're speaking frankly, I think

that's probably the inevitability of the

network. in terms of Time Warner, not

just CNN, I'm talking Time Warner as a

whole being sold in some capacity, what

the new regime wants,

that becomes the thing that becomes odd.

You know, I had a show I had a show um I

had a I had a sitcom on the hook over at

HBO Max that was on the inside track to

get a series pickup and then the

Showtime Max merger thingamajiggy

happened and they cleared the slate. You

know, I was at TBS

um when Michael Wright took over. I

believe in 2012 2013,

2013, I believe is when he came in. And

when he came into the network, he

essentially cancelled everything but

Conan O'Brien. And so,

having been a part of these different

entities where I've been on a show, same

with TBS, a show that did well and a

show was very safe and the show was

really loved. I don't know how much all

of that really counts anymore. You know,

you look at Wonderman that was cancelled

um by I think um was it Disney Plus?

Yeah, it's a Marvel show. And then they

put out the viewing numbers two weeks

later and it's like these numbers

clearly billions of hours view. This

show should have gotten another season.

So, you know, I don't know. I I

definitely the thing that I hate the

most about all of this [snorts] is what

it does in terms of uncertainty for

staff. You know, as talent, I'm afforded

a lot more leeway. I can go travel and

do shows and figure out other other

audles for myself, but when you are

like these aren't just balance sheet

conversations,

>> right? Right. You have a big staff at

Have I Got News for You. It's a It's a

>> Yeah, it's it's very similar to Daily

Show. It's almost It's almost 100. I

think we're at like probably 70 because

we're not a day we're not on every day,

but I know at Daily Show it was over 100

people that work in that building and

you're trying to decide what to do next.

And then you get a job offer, god

forbid, to go join another show and then

you don't know when that show whether or

not you go do that show. If this show

isn't going to happen,

>> what what would be your solution to

this? I mean besides not merger after

merger because everyone has to you know

pee on everything they said cancel all

the shows even if they're good cancel

them if if they're doing well it doesn't

really it has no rhyme or reason is what

you're saying

>> yeah it definitely has no rhyme or

reason I think that a lot of this is if

you want me to

I guess I kind of am like Scott I'm a

bit of a fatalist in a way and that the

world is rotten and these corporations

run most everything and even if you have

a hit show they're going to let you go

past three seasons, maybe five, because

they have to pay you more and it's

easier to just start a new show. Uh, for

this, I personally would rather see this

resolve sooner than later. Um, if the

merger does not happen and we are at

this same spot next June, I think it

gets stripped down and sold for parts,

you know, peace meal, you know, all over

the sphere, but you're still going to be

sold into the hands of people that are

being counting and cutting corners and

trying to do as much as possible with as

with as much less as possible.

>> Yeah, that's true. I think that's their

threat. Of course, we'll move out of

California. We'll do They have all these

sort of boneheaded threats,

>> but that's the inevitability. Okay,

you're gonna move it to we're going to

move Paramount to Nashville. Okay, and

then you're still going to make 20% less

shows. I forget what the number is. What

are we 50% less scripted content than 8

years ago or something? So, it's not

like you're guaranteeing jobs on the

other side of this. You're just

punishing people who you are already

half of whom you are already going to be

trying to figure out a way to fire even

if you didn't leave the state.

>> That's right. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's

easier to be independent. Hence why I'm

independent, Roy. I just don't like I

don't have to depend on them. You know,

I'm not loving these boneheaded moves

and threats. I think that, you know,

when billionaires threaten you, it's

sort of it's not it's not the most

attract. They look villainous actually

in that

>> and it's and it's not going to get any

better because when you look at what

YouTube has done and I haven't had a

chance to look at the exact specifics of

it, but I know that they're changing the

terms of service with their u creators

in terms of what the what the floor the

bar to achieve monetization at YouTube

is shot up to something a I'm not going

to say astronomically, but you're going

to have to be really all in to try and

go independent now. So, a lot of these

networks are going to move the bar when

it comes to monetization and making

money. The same thing with analytics on

Facebook and Instagram and reals or

whatever. So, you're eventually going to

be in a space where there's just going

to be a chasm between

like this mid major media, the vice and

the voxes of the world. Like you're

going to see shrink complex has had a

lot of shrinkage as well. And those were

the companies where you used to be able

to go if Huffington Post didn't hire you

or CNN didn't run with you this year.

>> And I think that the idea of even being

self-made is going to get even more

competitive. Yeah, it is. No question.

No question. I mean, I think the issue

is that they the way they're playing

this seems so juvenile. I just am like

there's ways to fix this. You know, it's

interesting that Bont just dumped it

after leaking because everybody at least

I I will say Paramount leaks a lot. Bont

does not having tried to get leaks out

of Bont. Um but uh I I and I'm good at

getting leaks out of people. Paramount

doesn't stop. Different people who

represent them, who purport to represent

them are very easy. They're big leakers

and they think they're very clever about

it. And so I I don't know if dumping a

settlement talks over this is, you know,

It's interesting. It's a It's definitely

a power play by Bontto, who I think is

probably uh you know, he's doing the

meta trial. He's doing this and he's

winning here in this case at least

because he got the trial move. So, why

should he put up with this [ __ ] I guess

>> I think the leak shows that Paramount is

for sure concerned.

>> Mhm.

>> And they definitely

>> You don't make a play like that if

you're if you're winning.

>> Yeah. You don't think control of the

board and you know part of it. What do

you think about like the different

different unions? The WJ is against it.

Certain writers are against it. The the

directors were for it with a certain

amount of demands that were pretty

heavy. Karen Bass went for it or just

went for a settlement. She's worried

about Los Angeles. Gavin Newsome always

plays the metal essentially. Um do do

you where do you where would you like

this to end up as a as a someone who's a

writer and a performer?

>> Uh in a perfect world, no merger would

production stay in Los Angeles to some

degree. I do think that Los Angeles has

just infrastructure and weather

advantages with production. And I say

that as someone who fought to shoot a

sitcom in Atlanta and Alabama,

like I having known what the challenges

are, you know, in some other places, um

I do think that if Hollywood is strong,

I think entertainment across the board

is strong, which then spills out to all

of these other markets, be it your

Louisiana with their incentives, which

are starting to they're starting to

tweak theirs as well. You know, I think

that's always been the dangerous thing

about tax incentives in other states

outside of Los Angeles. I feel like LA

has always had the most consistent

relationship with the entertainment

industry. When you look at what Detroit

had 20 years ago where they were making

television and movies in Detroit, left

and right, left and right. Detroit

called a new governor and he was like,

"Yeah,

no, no more incentive. Sorry." And that

happens often. The same thing happened

in North Carolina. So this idea of

decentralizing

television production I think would just

make it just blobulous

>> blobulous

>> every 10 year is it amalgam I don't know

I like blobulous it works for me

>> it's blobulus where every 10 years this

region's going to be the hot region I'm

old enough and been in entertainment

long enough to remember when North

Carolina was the place to shoot in the

late night was it Dawson's Creek and a

couple Martin Lawrence movies So it

moves around. Atlanta has seen a

regression in production because the big

dog Marvel took everything to Europe. So

there's just not as much stuff

happening. And that's where I do think

the indie market is going to be able to

help some of the smaller cities outside

of LA. But in a perfect world for me, I

think LA and New York carrying a ton of

production is ultimately healthier for

the entertainment industry coast to

coast.

>> Yeah, I think you're 100% right. You're

absolutely right.

>> And it's not me hating on Texas and New

Mexico. It's all great stuff, but those

are all states that are very like which

way the wind blows this election, you

might lose your incentive

>> or they're there because the governors

are are friendly to them and that's not

always good. You're right. It switches.

Also, just go look at some of the state

laws in Tennessee. Everybody who's

thinking of moving to Nashville, it's

not great for women. It's not thrilling.

is an Alamian. I will

>> I will abstain from these criticisms.

>> Okay. All right. In any case,

>> no, you're right, though.

>> It's just like [clears throat]

the California should get it together

and they should settle this thing. But

I'm not so sure this deal is going to

happen. We'll see. I hopefully hopefully

they'll figure something out that's

fair. And the Ellison's the only thing

that drives me crazy, the Ellison's

complaining about politics when they use

politics to get where they are so far

with the government, with the federal

government. It's like, stop, stop, stop,

stop. Anyway, um let's go on a quick

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Roy, we're back. Grift alert. Donald

Trump made more than a thousand stock

trades in June with transactions

totaling between 78 million and 263

million according to his latest

financial disclosure. Notably, Trump

bought between 15,000 and $50,000 worth

of SpaceX stock just 11 days after the

company's IPO. And Iran the Iran war

continues. Trump is buying and selling

shares of defense contractor Palunteer.

But nothing to worry about here. The

White House says there's no conflicts of

interest because Trump's investments are

independently managed. Now he has other

griffs like cryptocurrency as you know.

Um so this is the second this is the

second shoe to drop in that regard. He

made billions in cryptocurrency already.

So how do you how do you rank them stop

rank them among his griffs? Well, the

the interesting thing about the the this

whole stock thing was that the White

House said that oh, it's a computer

algorithm that runs the trading based on

the traditional trading trends and da da

da, but they can't tell you who green

lit the particular trades. They go, "Oh,

it's a computer." But somebody has to

go, "Yes, computer. I approve. Do that."

Did that person have insider

information? And I think that's the

thing that at at this point nothing

would surprise me. And they were so

beaten down with political scandals that

the scandals just feel like Yeah. All

right.

>> Yeah. He made more money.

>> All right. Oddly, the one trade that he

made uh President Trump that I was

curious about was Home Depot. I'm like,

what do you know? You know, like, okay,

Griffin, SpaceX, and AI. All right.

What's going on with Home Depot, man?

What you know?

>> Well, you know, the guy who was the

chairman was super conservative. That

might just be it. It's a conservative

company.

>> Yeah.

>> What do you think happen?

>> I don't I don't know. And

>> where are we building these houses? or

would there be some destruction that

you're playing? Like

>> I don't know. I don't want to get into

my conspiracy land with you, but that

was the one that was a bigger red flag

than most of the other companies.

>> Do you think he's ever been in a Home

Depot?

>> No, cuz he would have told you if if I

if Trump ever built some [ __ ] in his

life, he would have said it.

>> He builds everything, right? He's a

build he's a builder. He just said that.

Do you are you offended by his scripts

or just exhausted by them?

>> Uh we're I'm I'm past offended like it

doesn't like I feel bad that I am not

that I'm desensitized

in a way that speaks to just how

exhausting

so much of the scandals are. Like it's

just

>> That is a really good point. Would there

be a grift he could do that you'd be

like okay that's the end of it. That is

it. That is it. I think I think sports

betting would be one that would like in

favor with his base.

>> Uhhuh. sports,

>> which sounds crazy, but there's

something about the understood purity

and sanctity of sport that if you if he

threw a g like if you found out that he

knew the lineup card for a particular

and this guy wasn't going to start and

you know like f like the weird fantasy

football thing.

>> Yeah. Black Sox type throw the game,

please strike out. Like the the scandals

that MLB is dealing with right now where

the pitchers are betting on themselves

to not throw a strike on the first pitch

and then they deliberately don't throw a

strike. Like if Trump was in on

something like that,

>> maybe that would be one.

>> Oh god, he probably

>> sports is so American and it's pure and

you're supposed to be honest and you're

supposed to do it the right way and

>> that that maybe maybe

>> now you're giving him an idea of where

to go next. That's the thing.

>> Go buy some some stock in FanDuel right

now.

>> Go Home Depot. Go to Home Depot.

[laughter] Um, so so speaking of things

that they're doing that exhaust me as a

journalist, Pentagon has fired three top

staffers at Stars and Stripes, a

government funded news outlet that

reports in the US military. The Pentagon

cited insubordination as the reason for

the firings. Two of the staffers had

recently spoken publicly about

protecting the paper's editorial

independence, which it has had for

forever, pointing to the legal right to

be free from news management and

censorship. The third has already

announced his retirement, citing

fundamental disagreements over the

paper's values and mission. The firing

has come as Defense Secretary Pete Hgses

pushes to reshape the paper with more

focus on war fighting and less on woke

distractions. If he is making editorial

decisions here, what kind of stories

will we see now?

>> I I don't know what we going to see.

What war? What propaganda do you want?

Like they won't print what we need to

print the right way. And good for those

journalists for having a little bit of

backbone and some teeth about

themselves.

>> Yeah. Sergeant Stripes has a pretty good

reputation among the military. I have a

lot of family in military and it

actually is considered not I mean no

defense department official has tried to

do this. Like it it is run relatively

independently. Obviously it it's funded

by the Pentagon, but they've never tried

to meddle in it before. And what they

were writing about was the conditions on

the USS Lincoln. Um, and they didn't

like that. They didn't like the stars

and stripes pointing out that it's a

mess,

>> which it is. The carriers been out way

too long. They're under supplied.

Everything's backing up

>> and expected to. So, yeah, you have it.

It's probably one of the best ways you

could ever honor the military. I think

the problem now is for the journalists

that are going to be hired and put in

there now. Like this is this is one of

those cases where you almost support AI

reporting. Like just just print up just

just just print up what you want, bro.

>> Just have AI reporting.

>> Conjure just conjure up whatever it is.

Don't involve me and my integrity in

this. Um, I I think that I think that

the stars and stripes issue is

that one is a little more

effed up to me simply because this is

this is a piece of journalism that goes

to the people who serve this country.

And so when you're telling them

what is going on within their world like

that and you know like the was it AFN

like the air armed forces network where

you're showing them and you know here's

the content we have decided to expose

you to how much of that then becomes

mental manipulation

>> or they don't believe it or they don't

trust it. I mean, that's I think the

point is to hollow out trust, right? If

it's done a pretty good job covering

your life and it's not like it's not

going to do like Washington Post-l like

investigative pieces necessarily, but

it's accurate about your life and not

and not able to talk about a ship that

is in trouble.

>> And you would think the rank and file

aren't going to realize that HexF at

some point then you're start you start

having morale issues.

>> Yeah. Well, I think he's having them. I

think he's having them.

>> Yeah. I I it's it's terrible. You know,

I understand lying to the American

people, but lying to the people that

protect the American people, that's

that's just even more egregious.

>> Don't you want more war fighting, Roy?

More war fighting and not woke

distractions.

>> Yeah, cuz you know, wars win elections,

they say, right?

>> No, not this one. Not this one. All

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Roy, we're back with more news. Now is

the time to talk about some updates in

Trump's personal relationships, admits

ongoing speculation about Trump and his

aid, Natalie Hart. Melania Trump made

her first public appearance in more than

a month. Let's listen to the entrance

she made.

>> Good afternoon. I heard you missed me.

>> Here I am.

[laughter]

>> Roy, did you miss Melania?

>> Let me So, and then moving on, let me

just say the president and his former

fixer, Michael Cohen, have publicly

reconciled, sitting down for their first

interview together since Cohen became a

key witness in Trump's hush money trial.

The reunion is quite a reversal after

years of public attacks. Cohen has

called Trump a con man and a predator,

and Trump called Cohen a rat. in in and

definitely totally unrelated news, Cohen

has submitted a pardon application to

the Trump administration. Um and uh and

of course amid questions about his

health, from bruising his hands to the

trouble staying awake, doctors are also

raising concern about his weight since

he gained about 20 pounds. This is his

relationship with his self. Uh uh since

the 2024 campaign, doctors told the

Washington Post that Trump's weight is a

strong risk factor for premature

disability and death. So so many things.

And then of course Natalie Harp who more

and more comes out the more and more

disturbing it it seems to be including

old tweets. Um she seems to have a real

strange obsession on them. A lot of the

right is trying to argue that she's the

true feminist but I don't think that's

the definition of a feminist. [laughter]

So any of these things you'd like to

weigh in on Roy.

>> First off first and foremost just to to

everybody just stop getting excited

about bad Trump health news.

>> Yeah. It's just not I had

[clears throat] this evil ass teacher in

the fifth grade. She's still alive.

Like you don't you don't understand like

when you make move when you make all the

wrong moves in life, it like it gives

you vibrance.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> You can just defy

>> sickness and death and bad luck because

>> you just got to put you just got to put

bad decisions on top of bad decisions.

And that's what the president's shown an

ability to do. My grandmother used to

say, let me tell you, when she was when

someone who was bad wouldn't die, she'd

always go, "God doesn't want them."

[laughter]

>> Well, check with the devil.

>> Is it all about God?

>> Yeah, I know.

>> Just the hand pictures are just funny to

me because just the camera the quality

of cameras now. You can get in and see

the literal makeup line around the

>> knuckles. Yeah.

>> Okay. Uh, all right. The Cohen interview

is very funny.

>> Tell me about that.

>> It's very funny and it's it's um

it's it's softcore porn level of

glazing. I will just leave it at that.

That

>> Cohen is juggling them.

>> Just juggling them.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> And he he calls him. We don't have to

get into any specific thing that they

talked about cuz it's all just lobbing

softballs for Trump to say like the

first two minutes is why won't the left

media report on how good you're doing

and then he goes bash the left and polls

don't why are they still now actually I

did agree with Cohen on this why are we

still focusing on presidential approval

ratings for a man who cannot run again I

understand approval ratings being common

chitchat or whatever But just in the

bigger scheme of what I need to know

today, I don't need to know how many

people love or hate when the people

>> Well, it could be because how

Republicans are going to fare because

he's a drag on them possibly.

>> That's fair. Okay. So then if you're

using polls as you know to prognosticate

for November. Okay, cool. But there's a

matter of fact I marked it. It's at

12:30 for the people who want to go

check out the interview. At 12:30, Cohen

says along the lines, and I and I

loosely quote, "Hey boss, do you

remember that time we were working

together and I was sitting alongside

you?" And like just that sentence, it

just sounds like a child reconnecting

with his father and he just wants to be

liked and approved by this man so bad

that he does not care that he called him

a rat. Like he called you a rat. That's

like that's up there.

>> Yeah. Yeah. A rat is a big move. Is a

boo move.

>> Yeah. The whole the whole interview is

is is like 15 20 minutes of just kiss

ass and from just hitting softballs out

the park like he always does. Didn't

even have the decency to turn the camera

on.

>> Yeah. They um I didn't have you know

when Cohen was on a lot of cable and I

was always like I think he I think he's

a rat. Like I don't know why we're

listening to him insult him. Ultimately,

he was the the person you saw in that

interview with himquous toad uh who is

desperate to get a pardon. That's that

that kind of fills it out for me.

>> May I ask you a question?

>> Sure.

>> About Melania?

>> Mhm.

>> Uh who do you think misses her more or

draws attention to her absence? Cares

more about Who do you think cares more

about her absence? Liberals or

conservatives?

>> Liberals. I I wonder what are the

expectations and I we we have the

expectations of of a first lady to be

active and working in conjunction with

the president's agenda. You know,

they're they're the more forward- facing

customer service arm of the White House

to go out and touch the people on a

regular basis.

Do does anybody want Melania?

>> No, I don't really care. I agree with

you. That's what I mean. Like

>> she's a strange mannequin. I find her to

be mannequinike, you know, high fashion

kind of that sort of sharp mannequin

like look.

>> Yeah, but high fashion's not Americana.

>> No, it's not. No, I

>> Bush looked like she baked cookies. So,

you like that?

>> She did not. Yeah, she did not.

>> Come on by the house, Barbara. Like,

>> yeah. I don't I think the first lady

thing like people are all mad she's not

there. I don't think we should be paying

for her. I don't really care if we have

a first lady or not. I don't I think

that's an anacronism honestly in this

day and age like ultimately. So, I don't

really care that she's not there. I

think she's charmless. I think she's

unpleasant for the most part. The more

you see of her, the less you want to see

of her, right? So, I'm glad she's gone.

Kind of

>> charmless.

>> Charmless. You know what I mean? She's

charmless. She's charmless. I had a

conversation with Trevor Noah years ago

about how we always we always felt like

Melania missed the mark in that she

could have played the being absent

to be on some pro- feminism tip where

you just go I don't that's his job. It's

not my job to do stuff that helps his

job as a woman. I am allowed to be woman

over here. Why do I have to be woman

right here? But she just never played it

like that.

>> Yeah, she didn't play it like that. She

also doesn't really have a job, does

she? I don't really feel a plus with

her. And I and I think it's a minus for

her to be around because

>> also in Melania's defense.

>> Mhm.

>> Melania didn't want none of this [ __ ]

>> She doesn't. That's right.

>> Melania thought she was going to marry a

rich dude who would sit in the corner

and eat McDonald's while she go spends

his money in Bang Yacht Bros in Monaco

on the side. [laughter]

>> And then you come home and he's talking

about I'm gonna be president cuz Seth

Meyers pissed me off.

>> Yeah. Yeah. What? Yeah.

>> That wasn't the deal. Donald, nor

Donald,

>> I I just find her to be charmless. I

just don't I'm like happy she's gone. I

do think this I think she gets paid

every time she shows up. It looks like

it cuz she pops up. I think she's not

unfunny and everything. And the less of

see of her the better. That's me. That's

my feeling. But this Natalie Harp thing

adds an entirely interesting wrinkle to

it. And I think it's completely

appropriate to talk about that. Uh, I

think a lot of people don't think that,

but I do because she's right next to the

president doing his tweets all night

long. So, to me, she's completely

fine to talk about. I don't know how you

feel about her.

>> Have you never written a longass apology

to your boss? You never apologize to

your boss? Oh my god. I hope I didn't

embarrass you by walking around too much

on the golf course while you were

walking because you were the greatest

and I you know

>> I can't imagine Roywood Jr. has ever

done that.

>> I there are some women in in media who

if I worked for I would absolutely I am

so sorry please. But it would not be

from some trying to holler.

>> So what what you going

[panting and gasps]

can I ask a nasty question?

>> Sure. Please go ahead.

When are you even going to bang him? He

sleeps all the time.

>> I don't think they're doing that.

>> I know, but like

>> it's something else. It's something

else. It's like a daddy thing. It's

vaguely sexual, but it's not. It's

vaguely sexual, but it's not. It's

something else.

>> But I I don't know. It all eventually

turns sexual.

>> Here's probably true. But here's what I

feel like. You know, years ago, Elon

Musk was insisting we live in a

simulation. You know, this idea that

this isn't none of this, you and I

aren't real. Everything is fake. I think

we're in a simulation at this point.

After the Natalie Harp thing, I'm after

I read that letter, I'm like, there is a

teen alien teenager playing this [ __ ]

video game of Earth. Earth is the video

game. Some advanced civilization, and

they just inserted Natalie Harp into it.

I just decided [snorts] now I agree with

Elon Musk.

>> Just a random troll character.

>> Yeah. Just like [laughter]

this person. I'm like, it has to be.

Come on. Come on. You couldn't write

this. Would you be able to write this

on?

>> Weird.

>> It's weird. I mean, there's tropes like

from Fatal Attraction. There's tropes

from None of them end well. None of

these

>> stalkery tropes end well for the man

usually. Well, or his adjacent people

around him.

>> I mean, but at least Trump's got secret

service, so you can just get her out.

>> Yeah. Yeah. No, he seems to like her a

lot. I like there was one part of the

they had the the the the cars on the

mall or on down in Washington yesterday.

Again, again, I didn't mind the car

thing. Fine if he wants to have a

raceourse. Um but she Melania was there

for 4 seconds, gets up and the minute

Melania moved out of the picture,

Natalie came in the back. It was really

interesting. She was like hovering and

then moved in

>> and a real first lady would have cared.

That's how you know that marriage is

vapid cuz would have been like, "Y'all

better get her the hell out of here."

She'd have been down on the track

changing tires,

>> messing around with a real first lady.

So I

>> Hillary would have taken her apart.

>> Hillary, [laughter]

>> she would be an aid for a city council

person in Kentucky. And that's with

respect to Paduka.

>> I [laughter] swear you're right. She

would

>> she would be gone. She would get

further. She'd have been in Guam. I'm

not going to say the show, but there

there are a couple of your favorite

shows that you watch where if there's an

employee that they don't like, they give

them a glowing recommendation to another

show, usually in another city. And then

they get the job offer and they go,

"Hey, I got to quit." Man,

>> oh man.

>> I'm happy for you though. We gonna hate

to see you go.

>> I have done that. I have done that.

[laughter]

I haven't done that exactly. I haven't I

have done a version of that. I had I I

had someone who I really wanted to fire

and um uh and he goes he comes in and I

was and he like goes on he goes what I

really think I need is a raise and I

said oh god see I wanted to fire you so

it's kind of interesting that I well I

think I deserve a raise and I said I

think you deserve to be fired it's so

hard for me to like decide which one of

these things to do and uh and I've done

a version of that with many different

employees like said when they have a job

offer I'm like, you should. That's

fantastic. That would have been good.

Good.

>> Excellent.

>> Yeah. I actually when anyone ever leaves

my employer, I'm happy that they're

doing something. I think if people want

to go, they should go. If they don't,

that's always been my I never get mad

>> uh or anything else. I don't know. I

just I'm like, good for you.

>> I'm fine with the indie cars, too. I was

fine with the UFC. Just take the cage

down. I hear it's still up.

>> Like, is it just sitting there? Like, is

it not? I'm not sure. I think they put

the helipad there now.

>> Oh, thank goodness.

>> This really ugly helipad that he signed.

Yeah, I know. He's putting his name on

me. There's also the gold uh the gold

horses, which I have to see every time I

come back from the airport. Anyway, uh

we'll see what happens. All right, Roy,

one more quick break. We'll be back for

wins and fails. Okay, Roy, let's hear

some wins and fails. You go first.

>> Uh shout out to Karen Ailla at the

Washington Post.

>> 100 That was going to be one of mine,

but I have several. But go ahead. Say

why.

>> That's That's my only one. like this

this woman unjustly fired for

giving her opinion about, you know, part

of it wasn't even about what happened to

Charlie Kirk. It was about whether or

not we should honor Charlie Kirk and was

fired immediately from the Washington.

You know, the whole op-ed section there,

they've been trying to kind of, hey,

everybody, quiet down those opinions.

You're making Bezos mad.

And she fought. She fought. She took it

to arbitration. And uh this week they

gave her her job back. The arbitrator

decided, "Hey, you were not that's not

how you fire. Go back to work

immediately. And here's your back pay."

>> I love Karen. I think Karen's a badass.

She also does like I love all her

photos. I love how she puts What's

really fant fantastically ironic. The

guy who fired her is gone. that that

young [ __ ] they hired in her place. Uh

I love Karen. You're right. 100%. I

don't know if she'll stay, but good for

her. You're right.

>> No, I I I I personally, and this is

speaking as someone who does not know

her, based on the readings of her work,

she strikes me as someone who would stay

just if nothing else to throw a last

couple of real ass articles in that

publication. that's that's suppressing a

lot of the type of work that you know

that she does so well.

>> Yeah, I would agree. Yeah, I'm going to

talk to her today. I'll find out and I'm

going to I was going to reach out to her

because I'm sure she's celebrating.

She's been doing actually interesting

courses herself. She's a bit of an

entrepreneur and has been doing sort of

a bunch of interesting things, but that

was just ridiculous. And I love that she

fought. She she almost took the buyout

and then didn't, which was interesting.

we, you know, and she's like, "No, I'm

going to stay here. I'm going to stay

here and do my work." And they

immediately, and I said, "Garen, I think

they're going to fire you then." And

that's what they did. And the way they

did it was so [ __ ] ridiculous, but

she stood her ground. You're right. Go

ahead. All right. What is your fail?

>> Oh. Oh, my my fail is is is me.

>> No one told me that she needed a friend

to take you home for a colonoscopy.

And [laughter]

I scheduled a colonoscopy

>> and I'm trying to be all reverent about

my health and the heart and the blood

sugar and I set the date and then they

call me two weeks before and they go,

"Yeah, you you need a friend." And I I

don't like when you start thinking about

like like now we're getting into

emergency contact level friendship and I

and I just and I realize that

with the people that I have the with the

the the the alliances and the associates

that I've made in 11 years in New York

City, I don't really have anyone to the

level few comedians but yeah I don't

have colonoscopy where you take me home

after a camera

>> probe level [snorts] French and I had to

reschedule my colon I found a person but

I have to reschedule the colonoscopy

they're not there's no other

availability until November

>> oh no

>> so I had to wait two months to go back

because I just I don't know I was in a

big health kick I go through like

>> I call it like health week like every

August or September I do everything

and scheduled the first colonoscopy. Had

one not never had one and I'm sure I

should have had it sooner. I'm 47 so I

probably is overdue. Yeah. I don't know.

I've done the prostate and apparently

that's now blood.

>> Mhm.

>> Prostate. Okay. Well, I was in there

demanding the finger and got

[sighs and gasps]

>> Well, you'll enjoy the colonoscopy. I

can tell you they've I've had many. Um,

I love them. Just say I enjoy them.

Katie Kurrick, who is the big

colonoscopy pusher among people I know,

uh, cuz her husband did die of colon

cancer. Um, also, you should get it

done. I love it cuz one, it cleans you

out. You feel great. Like you take, you

used to have to drink all these

milkshakes and but now you don't. Water.

They're like water kind of jelly water.

Now it's just a pill. Now it's just a

pill. And it's that's great because the

drinking stuff is awful. But I feel

great cleaning out and then you get

home. You feel scared. They're like,

"Yeah, you got to take a dump for a day

and a half."

>> It is.

Stay home. Stay close to home. This is

all I have to say to you. It's shocking.

You're like, "How bad could it be?" And

then you're like, "Wow, I have a lot of

[ __ ] in there, so to speak."

>> Yeah. Yeah. So, I feel myself trying to

take care of my health and realize I

need better friends. But you need a bit.

I will come to pick you up at your

colonoscopy any

>> Thank you. Thank you.

>> I will come to New York to pick you up

because or I'll get Kirk to do it. Katie

Kirk will do it. She'll pick you up. She

loves people getting colonoscopies. Um

well, good for you. Well, that's that's

good for you to admit. All right, I'm

going to do mine. What I have to I I you

know, you're a comic. Rosie O'Donnell

guest hosting Jimmy Come Alive. She did

a fantastic job. Um, I know you've done

different guest hosting things, but I

thought she she has uh come back in a

really nice way and obviously was always

right about Trump, but the fact that she

underplayed Trump quite a bit except

that last bit was fantastic. She did a

whole different kind of show than

Kimmel, which I thought was a good idea.

She did the show that fit fit her. It

wasn't really a late night show. It was

sort of more of an afternoon show, but I

really appreciated that she she she

landed and did very well.

I've always had a lot of respect for

Rosie O'Donnell, you know, and people

forget that, you know, she was a beast

of a standup and actress and improv and,

you know, did daytime, did the View, so

she literally has the duality of the

chops needed to do exactly everything

that you just said and still just damn

likable.

>> Likable. She really has. She I think

going to Ireland has been good for her.

She's a great great singer. She I had an

interview with her. She sang on my show.

I thought it was just what people needed

um in terms of of feeling. Um and again,

uh I would I would say she she deserved

all the kudos she's gotten. The negative

is the this this guy I for I don't even

the tall guy who like has to call

attention to him so about about uh with

the dildos and everything else. All

these men that do this, the problem with

women's basketball is [ __ ] straight

men just can't just stop uh attacking

these women. I think it's misogynist. I

think it's racist for sure. Um, I think

it's, you know, I I don't really care if

Sophie Cunningham can says things about

trans people. Fine. Like, fine, she has

her opinions. But the fact that these

men are coming in there and ruining the

game for everybody just they should be

tossed out of the stadiums and that's

the end of it. Just enough with this.

>> I think it's more important to say

specifically it's it's right-wing men in

the media.

>> Yes. Exactly. that are doing it to bring

attention. And it's not just the person

that

>> I I don't feel like naming. There's a

couple of them. And it's And it's one of

the same ones that like declared

themselves eligible for the WNBA draft.

>> Yes. Next year.

>> Andis, right? And

>> Yeah. Yeah. Cancer. Yeah. And who's the

same one who was escorted out of a game

uh the other night for Jaw Jackson with

a Chicago sky player

>> during the game. So

>> yeah,

>> I you know, I thought she could have

killed him. I thought she could have

killed him if she had a chance myself.

>> There there's something wild to showing

up to a game to deliberately get kicked

to start mess so that you can then go

talk about it so you can then monetize

the clicks.

>> Yep. Agree.

Gross. That's

>> I would agree. He's grotesque. He's a

grotesque and he's he's a washed up

player at this point from what I can

tell. This is all he's

>> even if you feel that way about this

issue in the WNBA, go to the

commissioner's office. Yeah, exactly.

That's where you you really want to

change the policy,

>> go there.

>> Yeah, I agree. I just think it's pretty

heinous. Anyway, those are my wins and

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pivot. And elsewhere in the Karen Scott

universe, this week on On with Cara

Swisser, I'm talking to one of the

newest members of the Vox Media podcast

family, Aina Garten. Her show Happy Hour

with Ana Garten launches next month.

Let's listen to a clip.

>> When I think about my brand, I always

think the first thing is fun. If it's

fun, people will be really attracted to

it. From the store, like everything in

this when when you walked into the

store, all of your senses were engaged.

And I love that when people walked in,

they felt good. And they would say, "I

just came in to see what was going on."

And then they'd walk out with three bags

of groceries. and I would think, "Yeah,

did my job today."

>> So, um, and and I feel that way about

the television. If it's fun, people will

really be attracted to it. So, that's

kind of where I where I'm always

looking. Anyway, I love I think she's

great. She does a great job. You should

go on that show and have cocktails with

her. That would be

>> that would be a really interesting

conversation. Uh, anyway, she's great.

Um, okay, that's the show. Thanks so

much, Roy. You've been amazing and I I'm

very excited to come on your show.

Season five of Have I Got News for You

premieres on September 12th on CNN. I

forget which one it is, but I'm pretty

early in the season. Put me on with

whoever you want. I'm happy to to spark

with them. Uh, where else can people

find you, Roy? What else are you up to?

>> I'm going get you online. I'm going to

get you on there with Mom Donnie.

>> Mom Donnie. Perfect. [clears throat] All

right. So, where else can people find

you? What else are you up to?

>> My name is Roywood Jr. Put a dot behind

it. Put a at symbol in front. That's

everywhere. Uh outside of CNN, I'll be

on a new Amazon sitcom Barberhop based

on the um hit movie uh franchise.

>> That's not out until later this year or

top of next year. They haven't given us

a premiere date yet, but that'll be the

next thing.

>> I love number two. How many are there?

There's three or four, right?

>> There's three barber shops and then

there's the beauty shop spin-off with

Queen

>> Beauty Shop. I love the Beauty Shop. Oh

my god.

>> Yeah, that is my merger insurance. So,

you make sure you watch that when it

comes out.

>> Are you kidding? I I'm a big barberh

shop fan. I didn't know. I had no idea.

I'm so excited. Who are you playing?

>> It's a good time. I play like a younger

said the entertainer type, if you will.

Not said's character.

>> He Nobody could do that. But I represent

the the I'm the most senior person in

the shop. So, it's definitely a more

youthful series that just follows the

continuation of the how Chicago has

evolved and how barbershop culture has

changed with the modernization and

appointment culture and all of that

stuff.

>> Oh my god, I'm so excited. I love Beauty

Shop. I'll be honest with you, I loved

it, too. I like all the shops. Anyway,

uh thanks for listening to Pivot and be

sure to like and subscribe to our

YouTube channel. We'll be back on Friday

again. Roy, thank you very much and I

can't wait to see you.

>> Thank you for good to see you.

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