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Let's talk about what makes flirting

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hard.

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>> Like, oh, I've been rejected once and

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like now I'm terrified and crazy.

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>> That's what we all effing say. And I'm

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like,

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>> I'm like, okay, fine. Think you're never

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going to like meet your wife?

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>> No. Right. Like, just try.

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>> How about being single?

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>> Have you guys not been rejected by other

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things in your life, like a job or

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whatever, like,

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>> and you keep trying like hello. Like,

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we're not going to bite. Like, we want

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to be approached and we want to talk to

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you. Like, just read the room. You're

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going to find the right girls that are

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either, yes, I'll entertain you for the

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night or I'll take I'll go out on a date

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with you or I'll [ __ ] marry you.

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Like, literally, at the end of the day,

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it doesn't [ __ ] matter. It's just

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like [ __ ] make a move and who gives a

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[ __ ] [ __ ] because you're always going

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to be in the same spot.

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>> Okay, these women are talking about

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rejection. They're like, it's not that

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big of a deal. So, there's some really

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fascinating stuff about flirting, which

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is that flirting is heavily moderated by

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rejection sensitivity and self-esteem.

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So if you look at studies on flirting,

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people who have high self-esteem are far

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more successful at flirting. So

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remember, if we go back to our core idea

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of like what flirting is, if I am too

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overt, right, I can be perceived as

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borish. And remember, the goal of

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flirting is plausible deniability. I

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don't want to end up as as someone who's

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been rejected. If you have a high

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self-esteem, you can afford rejection,

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right? So, these these women, I would

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imagine they have relatively high

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self-esteem based on how they're talking

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about things because they're like,

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"What's the big deal? Haven't you been

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rejected by other things in your life?"

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And the answer is yes. And those have

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been devastating. Right? So, for some

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people, rejection is is devastating and

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for some people rejection is not

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devastating. The higher your self-esteem

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is, the more you can handle rejection.

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And so oftentimes what I find when I I

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work with people is that like you know

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there's people who are really concerned

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about rejection because it hurts so

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much. So they can't afford to give

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things a shot. So a lot of people like

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just put yourself out there it'll work

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great. But the experience of putting

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yourself out there is fundamentally

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different depending on what your

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self-esteem is. This is why it's huge.

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But like if we look at the factors that

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result in a successful relationship.

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This is what a lot of people don't get

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right. So if you have sort of the

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forever alone crowd, the people who

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think they're ugly, things like that,

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and they may be ugly, like there are

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ugly people out there, but the problem

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is that they grossly underestimate two

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things, which is self-esteem and

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negative bias. So if you look at the red

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pill pickup artist community, they

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advocate for a lot of things. Okay? So

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one thing that they advocate for is you

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just keep asking girls out, right? We

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sort of objectify women. They're like,

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it just keep asking them out. We don't

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care if they're comfortable or

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uncomfortable. I'm not saying all the

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red pillars are like that, but they're

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like, you just keep asking people out.

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So, this is a really interesting

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technique because it's basically

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exposure and response prevention. You

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were afraid of rejection. What we're

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actually going to do is we are going to

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advocate that you keep getting rejected

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until you are no longer afraid of

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rejection. And the fear of rejection is

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a huge element of your end success at

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getting laid or even ending up in a

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long-term relationship. Does that make

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sense? So, the reason that I think that

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they advocate for this stuff is because

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it works, right? It actually solves one

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of the key problems that betas have,

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right? They're like they never talk to

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people. They're way too shy. So, we have

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to get you used to rejection sensitivity

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through exposure and response

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prevention. Now, I'm not advocating for

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that path because I think it

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inconveniences a lot of people. Often

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times, it is tied together with other

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kinds of objectifying sort of uh

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perspectives, but they're they're right

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about the principle, which is that you

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need some way to handle rejection. What

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I prefer is actually directly targeting

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self-esteem, right? So, let's help you

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develop your confidence, which by the

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way, they do too, right? So, what do

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they say? If you're someone who's a

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loser virgin, they say, "Hit the gym.

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Get your work stuff in order, become

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financially secure, become independent,

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become someone that you can be proud,

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you can hold your head up high, looks

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max, get ripped, drive a nice car,

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right?" So, all of these things will

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boost some degree of self-esteem. I

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don't care about the the ego stuff from

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toxic masculinity or manosphere kind of

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stuff. What I'm saying is just anyone

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who physically exercises will the the

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physiologic changes from regular

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exercise will boost your self-esteem.

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Your cortisol levels will even out.

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You'll be less stressed throughout the

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day. You'll sleep better at night. When

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you sleep better at night, when you

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sleep 9 hours a night because your body

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is doing anabolism, your brain also gets

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more REM sleep. The more REM sleep that

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you get, the more you emotionally

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process. So, physical exercise improves

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self-esteem without any of the weird

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egotistical stuff. And then you can be

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proud of yourself. Right now, when you

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look in the mirror, you don't think

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you're pathetic. You start to look good.

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You're like, "Hey, like like I look

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decent." That boosts self-esteem. So,

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they're on to a lot of really good

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stuff. So, working on self-esteem is

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huge directly. And what a lot of people

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don't understand is when they when they

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when they talk about mating success as a

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defined thing. Women want this. Women

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want dudes who are attractive. Women who

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want dudes who have a big dick. Guys

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only want women with big tits. Or guys

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want women who are proportioned in this

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particular way. guys want women who have

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a particular ethnicity. Some of those

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preferences may exist somewhere. I'm not

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saying that they don't. But I think the

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key thing that people miss is what are

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the other variables in the equation. And

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self-esteem is a huge modifiable

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variable. Okay. The other huge

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modifiable variable, and this is what's

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so devastating, is negativity bias. Some

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people see the glasses half full. Some

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people see the glasses half empty. A

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good example of negativity bias is like

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in the forever alone community. There's

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a lot of people who approach dating with

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a huge negativity bias. And here's why

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the negativity bias is so damaging.

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Because remember, in flirting, there are

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ambiguous signals. Most of the signals

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are ambiguous, right? So there's

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positive signals in flirting, there's

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negative signals in flirting. Each of

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those are maybe 15%. 70% of signals are

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ambiguous. And if you have a negativity

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bias, you are interpreting those

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ambiguous signals in a negative way. So

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in in the scenario without a negativity

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bias, 15% positive, 15% negative, 70%

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mixed signals. I don't know if this girl

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is into me or not. I don't know if this

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guy is into me or not. It's very

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confusing. It's a lot of uncertainty.

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It's very frustrating. But if you have a

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negativity bias, look at how the numbers

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change. 15% positive, which can even be

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dumped down to neutral, 15% negative,

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and then 70% am ambiguous becomes 70%

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negative. Now it's 85% negative, 15%

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positive. And when you have this

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negativity bias and you receive an 85%

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negative signal from the first person,

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that reinforces your negativity bias.

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And then you try again and then it

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becomes worse. Now, I've tried to date

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three people that are 85% negative, 90%

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negative, and 95% negative. And so, what

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happens with people who have the sort of

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forever alone mindset is that they they

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start to form this kind of like, you

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know, snowflake into avalanche kind of

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mentality. And they're not wrong, by the

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way. This is what's really scary about

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it. Those are their experiences, right?

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And so then what happens is their

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self-esteem starts to go down. And so

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then they do genuinely have bad

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experience after bad experience. As the

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negativity bias goes up, their

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experiences get worse. Their experiences

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get worse. Their experiences get worse.

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And suddenly it started as a snowflake.

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Now it's an avalanche. And they're like,

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I will be alone for the rest of my life.

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And if you look at their interpretation

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of the data, they are not wrong, right?

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that this is what their experience is.

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The thing that they could be wrong

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about, we don't know because we don't

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know what their lives are like, right?

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Is which of these factors are

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modifiable. And I've worked with a lot

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of these people in my office and I've

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seen them coming in as virgins and then

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two years later they're in a healthy

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relationship. I've seen success many

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times. But of course, if you're

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listening to this, you'll say, "Yeah,

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you've seen success with other people,

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but not me. Oh, look, your negativity

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bias is showing, right? Oh, yeah. 50% of

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people can fix it and I'm in the 50%

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that can't fix it. Boom. Right there.

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How do you know that? Right? You believe

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that because you've had all of these

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experiences. Fair enough. But this is

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absolutely modifiable. And even if we

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look at sort of the pickup artist red

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pill community, manosphere kind of

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community, they will address the

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negativity bias in a really interesting

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way, which is they this is why they

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demonize people. And this is not just

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men, right? So we see this in the female

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dating strategy community and the pink

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pill community. There's a lot of

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demonization of the gender that you're

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into. And when we demonize them, it

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helps us engage with things without that

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negativity bias. Or that negativity bias

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is still there, but we just shape it in

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a way that no longer impacts our

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behavior in terms of engaging in a

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relationship. It still impacts it, but

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I'm able to talk to people now at least.

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I use kind of that anger or that sense

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of ego or that sense of demeaning the

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other person to help myself feel

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comfortable. It's it's an effective way

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to deal with the negativity bias. Not

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saying it's healthy, but it's effective.

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I keep seeing comments, "Dr. K, how do I

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apply this to a situation in my life?"

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That's literally why we created a

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coaching program. Our coaches are

8:52

certified on an evidence-based

8:54

curriculum designed to help you get

8:56

unstuck. This involves analyzing your

8:59

patterns, increasing your understanding,

9:01

and working with you week to week to

9:03

help you develop a plan to create

9:05

lasting change. So, if y'all are

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interested, check out the link in the

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description below. There there are two

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really important things that we can do.

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First is if you have a negativity bias,

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the most important thing that you can do

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is be curious about the person that

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you're interacting with. So, the

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negativity bias means that I'm in my own

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head interpreting signals from the other

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person and I'm having it reflect on me.

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Oh, this person didn't laugh at my joke.

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That means they're not into me. This

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person chose to not drink. that means

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that they don't trust me, right? So

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instead, like if you literally look at

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the way that the negativity bias works,

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it is the negativity bias is in my own

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head thinking about me. And so the

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simplest best antidote is to just be

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curious about the other person. Let me

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genuinely get to know who cares what

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they think about me, whether this is

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going anywhere or not going anywhere. I

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have one hour to get to know another

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human being and learns a perspective

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about the world that I'll will maybe

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never see again. Let me make the most of

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it. Let me try to understand this

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person. And literally a big part of this

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cognitive training that we do in therapy

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is getting people out of their own head

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and into something else. So other

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examples are like grounding meditations,

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right? Where we're literally getting you

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out of your head. And that can have a

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huge impact in terms of sensitivity. I

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mean low self-esteem. This is where it's

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really interesting. So there are high

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signaling partners and there are low

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signaling partners. Often times what

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people with low self-esteem need is a

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very high signal from the other person.

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this is why they sort of end up alone

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because in order to overcome like this

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person wouldn't be interested in me,

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right? So what they what the other

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person really has to do is signal really

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hard, right? They have to enter this

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danger zone of overt signaling. So if

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you're interested in someone who you and

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you perceive that they have low

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self-esteem, you need to let them know a

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little bit more clearly that you're

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interested and that you think they're

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amazing and you would love to spend more

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time with them. Cuz that thought the

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thought that someone would want to spend

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more time with me and that someone

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thinks that I'm amazing is so

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perplexing. So, if you're at all

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ambiguous about it, like it's going to

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get missed. And this is exactly why

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flirting is the technique that gets

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people together because flirting

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involves reading the other person. If

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someone else is able to read me, that

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indicates a positive thing for our

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future relationship. They understand how

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I feel. They understand my worldview.

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They they are able to compliment what I

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need, right? Not compliment in terms of

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saying that my hair looks nice. I mean

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compliment is an e m n t. They can match

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my energy. That's a huge part of what

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flirting is about. Now let's get to the

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things that make people good at flirting

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or bad at flirting. So first thing that

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we're going to do is talk about the

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sequence of flirting. So non-verbal

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behavior as courtship signals the role

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of control and choice in selecting

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partners. So we provide evidence based

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on direct observation of behavior and

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encounters of opposite sex strangers

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that women initiate and control the

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outcome. while female affirmative

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behavior at this stage modulates the ver

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male verbal output in later stages in 4

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to 10 minutes. Okay, so this is one of

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the key things that I think a lot of

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women are missing. If you look at the

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average situation, okay, so remember

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that there's exceptions to this. But the

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sequence of flirting happens like this.

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The first thing that actually happens is

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woman signals availability. And if a w

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woman signals an availability, that's

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how a dude knows that it's okay to

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approach. Then the dude approaches.

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Okay. And it's like this is literally

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why we have big wedding rings. And I

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mean, I'm sure there's more to it, but

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if you look at like the male wedding

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band and the female wedding band, one of

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them is more transmissible than the

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other, right? So the wedding band is the

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simplest way. It's like literally

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something that we put on that I don't

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have to say anything. I have to do

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anything. I don't have to look at you.

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If I have a wedding ring on, it signals

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I am unavailable. If I don't have a

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wedding ring on, it signals I am

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available. And if you ask people, right,

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including women, would you ever wear a

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ring on your wedding finger or your

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wedding band, you know, four left hand,

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fourth finger, right? They won't wear it

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unless I mean some of them will, but

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like that's the signal. That's the

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fundamental signal, right? And so we

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literally have baked a society that has

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at least in the in the US, in India,

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people wear it on the right hand, right?

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We've built a society where there is a

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signal of availability which is like

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[ __ ] stamped on. And so you have to

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signal availability first. That's what

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the data suggests. Okay? And signaling

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availability can be overt or covert. You

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know, it can be uh smiling at someone.

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It can be making eye contact with at

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someone. Right? And like I don't know if

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you guys remember like this thing where

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it's like, "Oh, I'm looking." Oh. Right.

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That's signaling availability,

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continuing to look. I remember when I

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was in medical school, I I had a really

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good friend who was gay and I asked him,

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I was like, "How do you know if a guy is

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gay?" And he laughed, right? And I was

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like, like, did you know I was not gay

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when you first saw me? And he's like,

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absolutely, man. No, there's not a

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single gay bone in your body. How did

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you know that I wasn't gay? And he's

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like, it's about the gay eyes. It's all

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about the eyes. That's how they can be

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butch, they can be they can be Texan,

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wearing cowboy boots, effeminate, not

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affeminite, don't matter. It's all about

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the eyes. It's about the gay eyes. That

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was his answer. Wonderful neurologist.

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You know, the a lot of the signaling of

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availability actually happens in subtle

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ways, right? And and so there were many

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things that like in in my, you know,

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relationship with with my wife now,

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right? So there were many things that,

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you know, she would signal pretty

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overtly, which is probably what I

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needed. The story that I told you guys

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about, she moved over to my side of the

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booth and cuz like I had low self-esteem

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sort of, right? I was this mug thing,

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which had helped some, but like I was

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like I had this particular style of

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flirting which didn't match her style

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and then like I kind of warmed up to it.

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Okay. So what are the things that lead

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to good relationships and what are the

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things that lead to bad relationships? I

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better pay attention to me tonight. I'm

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so [ __ ] sick of this [ __ ]

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>> Oh my god.

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>> Touch a boob, buy a drink. I mean, it's

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like very [ __ ] simple.

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>> What constitutes bad flirting? An

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explorator explorative study of deal

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breakers. This study is amazing. What

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they did is isolate 11 things that are

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bad flirting. Okay. Vulgar vocabulary,

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poor looks, excessive intimacy. He she

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touches me without my consent. Lack of

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intelligence, narcissism, lack of humor

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and low self-esteem, stinginess, bad

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hygiene, slimy approach, sexist

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comments, slimy comments about my looks,

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different views. Okay? Lack of exclusive

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interest. So, they looked at all of

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these factors, right? He or she

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constantly interrupts me when I speak,

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poor looks, effusive, aggressive

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approach, too revealing dressing. We'll

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we'll go into more into these. And

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here's the really cool thing about the

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study. They ranked them in terms of the

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size of the impact. Okay, slimy approach

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is the biggest dealbreaker. Bad hygiene

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is the second biggest dealbreaker.

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Here's the really interesting thing.

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Poor looks is second from the bottom in

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effect size. Okay? So, a lot of people

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think that their genetics determine

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their dating success. And I've been

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advocating this for this for a while,

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but like people don't seem to want to

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hear it or don't believe it or whatever.

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But like here is another study that

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shows that physical attractiveness is

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not nearly as big of a dealbreaker as

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your approach, your hygiene, your

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exclusive interest, different views,

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vulgar vocabulary, lack of intelligence.

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Right? So let's go over these and

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understand them. And the cool thing is

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we'll understand why dating is so hard

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once we realize these things. So first

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thing, the worst thing that you can do

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is be slimy, be cringe, right? So making

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inappropriate comments and this by the

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way borish unskilled not good at

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flirting making inappropriate comments

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number one. Okay being rude being

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sexually pushy. Okay now remember that

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there there are times to escalate to

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sexual interest. That's what we cover in

16:48

the guide. Right? This like this is the

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whole point of the guide is we cover you

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guys may be thinking throughout this

16:52

lecture like what about chemistry? How

16:55

do I know when it is appropriate to

16:56

sexually you know proposition someone

16:58

sexually? How do I touch? What's the

17:00

appropriate level of touch? These are

17:02

all things that are not related to

17:03

flirting. Remember, flirting is in the

17:04

initial engagement, feeling somebody

17:07

out. And then there's a lot of stuff

17:08

that comes after that. Could do a 2-hour

17:10

lecture on each of those. That's the

17:11

whole point of the guide as it walks

17:12

through all this stuff. Okay? Being

17:14

sexually pushy. But then some people may

17:16

like so so I think this is why like this

17:18

lady is kind of confused, right? She's

17:20

like, "Touch a boob, buy a drink." So,

17:22

this is a good example of the bell curve

17:24

where like the majority of women, right,

17:27

don't want you to touch a boob when you

17:29

meet them. But there are some women who

17:30

are okay with you touching a boob. Or

17:32

maybe actually this belongs over here

17:34

because more men may be okay with you

17:36

grabbing their crotch. Okay, but this is

17:38

kind of the point. This does work for

17:40

some people, right? And so if you think

17:42

about the slimy approach, who does that

17:43

work for? Here's who it works for. It's

17:45

people who have a template of forward

17:47

behavior. You know, in this video that

17:49

we did on YouTube about why you

17:50

shouldn't date people that you're

17:52

attracted to. Kind of weird, right? You

17:53

shouldn't date people that you're

17:54

attracted to. That's because there are

17:55

all these things like projection. You're

17:56

not attracted to a human. You're

17:58

attracted to your projection onto that

18:00

human. Projection, projective

18:02

identification, repetition, compulsion.

18:04

So, all of these are other complicated

18:06

topics that we cover in the guide. But

18:08

my point is that the majority of people

18:10

will say that sliminess is the worst

18:13

thing that you can do. But there are

18:15

many people for whom sliminess works.

18:18

And here are some of the reasons, right?

18:20

One reason that sliminess can work, for

18:21

lack of a better terms, is daddy issues

18:24

if we're talking about for a woman or

18:26

mommy issues if we're talking about a

18:28

guy. Okay? Second most important thing,

18:30

bad hygiene. Okay? Bad breath, bad oral

18:34

hygiene is huge. Teeth, floss, boys and

18:37

girls, body odor, and then also a sense

18:40

of unckemptness. So, here's what's

18:42

really, really, really, really, really

18:43

interesting. Facial structure, bone

18:45

structure matters less than body odor,

18:48

right? I want you all to imagine someone

18:50

who has the most asymmetric Thorlike

18:54

6'4 amazing bone structure, who's

18:57

homeless, is missing teeth, has terrible

19:00

breath, and terrible body odor. And then

19:02

I want you to imagine someone who is 5

19:04

foot2, well-groomed, you know, has a

19:07

nice haircut, clothes that fit, has a

19:10

white smile with all of the teeth

19:12

intact. Which person do you think is

19:15

more unattractive? Like this is the

19:17

thing. I'm using extreme examples of

19:20

both, right? One who won the genetic

19:22

lottery, one who lost the genetic

19:24

lottery. But does winning the genetic

19:26

lottery and having the [ __ ] of hygiene

19:29

beat out losing the genetic lottery and

19:32

having great hygiene? The data suggests

19:34

no. Okay, data suggests no. But once

19:37

again, there's variability, right?

19:39

Because there are some people who are

19:42

exist on the planet that are more

19:43

comfortable with bad hygiene than they

19:45

are with poor genetics in terms of

19:47

facial structure or height or whatever.

19:48

Next thing, this is huge. What I really

19:50

love about doing this research is that

19:52

sometimes I stumble on a scientific

19:54

study that explains what the hell is

19:57

going on today. One of the three biggest

20:00

mistakes, okay, after being sexually

20:03

pushy and [ __ ] missing teeth and

20:05

having terrible having halattosis and

20:07

bad breath in the ballpark of that is

20:10

lack of exclusive interest. Appearing

20:13

bored, looking at other people, flirting

20:15

with other people. Okay. Signal that

20:18

they aren't interested in you

20:23

specifically, right? So, this is like,

20:25

I'm looking to get laid tonight. I don't

20:27

really care with who kind of attitude.

20:29

There's nothing special about you.

20:31

You're just a anyone will do kind of

20:34

thing. They're looking for a

20:35

placeholder. So, this is what's really

20:37

scary is that 50 years ago, a lack of

20:40

exclusive interest was a big big big no

20:43

no. One of the worst things that you can

20:44

do while flirting is [ __ ] if I'm

20:46

flirting with one person, flirting with

20:48

their friend, right? I'm flirting with

20:50

you, telling you you're hot, and I'm

20:52

going to grab this girl's ass. Terrible

20:53

mistake. This has become the lack of

20:56

exclusive interest has become the norm

20:58

in online dating culture. It has become

21:00

the standard, the acceptable, right? We

21:03

all have to be talking to multiple

21:05

people at the same time. This is why

21:07

like loneliness epidemic is on the rise.

21:09

dating and mating crisis is on the rise

21:11

because sometimes when I read some of

21:12

this research I stumble on something

21:14

that I'm like, "Oh, this is a core part

21:16

of how human beings flirt successfully.

21:18

They demonstrate exclusive interest."

21:21

Right? You take any Jane Austin novel

21:23

and then even a whiff of interest in

21:26

somebody else sends people into a

21:29

[ __ ] tail spin. A whiff, oh, I saw

21:32

you were dancing with Lady Brahman's

21:34

daughter. Oh my goodness. I'm going to

21:36

go jump in a lake. never speak to me

21:38

again. Please go away. Don't break my

21:40

heart. You looked at another woman. Oh

21:43

my goodness. Oh no. Right. And like this

21:45

has become the norm. And and this is

21:47

what's like scary about technology is

21:49

like technology is changing the way that

21:52

we interact with each other. But even

21:54

though technology is changing the way

21:56

that we interact with each other, our

21:57

brains are not changing the same amount.

22:00

So, everyone knows you shouldn't express

22:03

exclusive interest, but every one of our

22:05

brains feels equally hurt and annoyed by

22:08

that, right? Tell me I'm wrong, please.

22:11

Like, literally, like if you guys

22:13

disagree with this, you're like, "No,

22:14

Dr. K, like that's not how it works."

22:16

This is an adaptation, right? We we

22:18

learn to be okay with it because it's

22:20

standard. If other people are going to

22:22

talk to other people, like I'm not going

22:23

to overinvest in one person if they're

22:25

talking to somebody else. But if even if

22:27

you think about that kind of thinking,

22:29

it's like I don't want to be left

22:31

hanging. That's why I'm doing it. I have

22:33

never heard, and maybe I'm ignorant

22:35

here, and maybe you guys can correct me.

22:37

I've never heard someone say, "Yeah, you

22:39

know, the nicest thing is that I'm

22:41

really into this person and they're

22:43

talking to six people. Oh my god, it's

22:45

such a relief." There are situations

22:47

where people can be like, "Yeah, this

22:49

person has way too much emotional

22:50

energy. Like, they're dumping it all on

22:52

me. I wish they would distribute to

22:53

other people." But when we're talking

22:54

about flirtation, is it attractive to be

22:57

flirting with someone and they start

22:59

flirting with somebody else? Are you

23:01

like, "Oh my god, that is the hottest

23:04

thing." And people may say, "Okay, well,

23:07

if you were flirting with person A, that

23:08

may make you more attractive to person

23:11

B, right?" So, this kind of stuff

23:12

there's like some evidence for, right?

23:14

If you're like a man who's like a good

23:16

caregiver of your children, sometimes

23:18

that can attract women as an example.

23:21

But that's a different scenario from the

23:23

initial flirtatious engagement. And the

23:25

lack of exclusive interest is not just

23:27

about talking to multiple people. It is

23:29

also about a lack of interest in you

23:32

specifically. You're the same as the

23:34

other five people I'm talking to.

23:35

There's nothing special about you. I'm

23:37

not interested in you specifically. I'm

23:38

just looking for a dick. That's it. Any

23:40

dick will do. And imagine how the person

23:42

on the other side of that feels. Like

23:44

some people may be down. They're great.

23:45

Looking for a dick? I got one. Easy

23:47

peasy lemon squeezy. But that's not

23:49

usually what flirtation looks like,

23:51

right? That's like satisfying some kind

23:53

of need. So, a short-term relationship

23:55

is fine. Doesn't require a whole lot of

23:57

flirtation. I've seen this as a

23:58

psychiatrist before. You know, sometimes

24:00

people who have BPD or struggling with

24:02

addiction or or antisocial or

24:05

narcissistic or super depressed or even

24:07

have an anxious attachment style,

24:09

they're just looking to get some needs

24:10

met. Fine. I'm not saying it's always

24:12

healthy, but I'm not placing a moral

24:13

judgment on that. What I'm talking

24:15

about, remember, we're talking about

24:16

flirting here. We're talking about what

24:18

are the things to do or not do when you

24:20

are engaging with someone to keep and

24:23

and cultivate your their interest in

24:25

you. And lack of exclusive interest is a

24:28

big no no. Next, um vulgar vocabulary,

24:31

right? Females calling women females is

24:33

a good example of this. Not a whole lot

24:35

of women that are like, "Oh my god, I

24:37

love the way that he reduces me to a

24:40

biological simplicity." Crude course

24:42

language. Here's what you guys do. If

24:44

you guys want to understand what crude

24:45

course language is and how not to flirt

24:47

with people, this is what you do. You

24:49

install this game called Dota 2. And

24:50

then there's this thing in Dota 2 called

24:52

behavior score. And as your behavior

24:54

score drops, you lose the ability to

24:56

communicate. And eventually you end up

24:57

in this thing called low priority Q,

24:59

which is you with all the other

25:01

primitive creatures, terrible human

25:03

beings who are also low priority. You go

25:05

and you just listen to the

25:06

communications. Well, they can't

25:08

communicate cuz they're voice muted, but

25:09

you you feel the communication. There's

25:11

the regular humans and then there's the

25:13

people who have been banned. Low

25:14

priority Q is a great example of this.

25:16

You go there and that is the way to not

25:18

behave. Whatever they do, you do the

25:20

opposite. Next is poor looks. Okay, so

25:22

this is where unattractive body or face

25:25

dress badly, unckempt. And then here's

25:27

the other thing that's really

25:28

interesting. Unappealing movement or

25:31

posture. Okay, so this is where like I

25:33

think the looks maxers are like, you

25:35

know, on to something, right? So you can

25:36

optimize these things. It'll improve

25:38

your attractiveness for sure. So, some

25:40

of this stuff is not modifiable, but the

25:42

really interesting thing is even when it

25:43

comes to looks, and this is the whole

25:45

point behind looks maxing, right? A lot

25:46

of it is modifiable. Even the way that

25:48

you walk affects people's response to

25:51

flirting, right? Deal breaker is having

25:53

like slovenly posture, being unckempt,

25:55

you know, stumbling over to, hey, how

25:58

you doing? My name's Dr. K. I'm a

26:02

YouTuber looking to get my wee wee wet.

26:06

You want to hang out?

26:09

not very good at flirting. Okay, this is

26:11

another big one. Excessive intimacy.

26:14

Now, what does this mean? So, this can

26:15

be invading personal space, right? So,

26:17

if we think about people who are

26:18

intimate, what do they do? We share

26:20

personal space. It's a big part of being

26:22

intimate. Not even sexual. It's like,

26:24

let's cuddle. Let's hold hands. I'm

26:25

going to sit next to you. Okay, this is

26:27

physical or emotional intensity too

26:31

early. Huge. So, trauma dumping falls

26:33

into this, right? When we think about

26:34

trauma dumping, trauma dumping is over

26:36

here. Flirting is over here. they don't

26:38

overlap. Okay, so this is another big

26:40

one. Lack of intelligence. One of the

26:42

best indicators of your intelligence is

26:45

being able to make somebody else laugh.

26:46

But the really interesting thing is that

26:47

intelligence is not just IQ. Okay, it's

26:50

loweffort conversation. And you guys who

26:52

have been on the apps probably know what

26:54

I'm talking about. One of the most

26:55

annoying, frustrating things on the

26:56

planet is when someone's like, "Yeah,

26:58

no, yeah, no. What kind of stuff do you

27:00

like to do?" Stuff. What are you up to

27:02

today? Stuff. Yeah. Okay. What kind of

27:04

food do you like? Good food. What kind

27:05

of food do you not like? Bad food. This

27:07

is the [ __ ] ruins. There's no

27:09

flirtation. This thing again,

27:11

flirtation, loweffort conversation.

27:13

Okay, so failing to demonstrate mental

27:16

engagement is the key factor of low

27:18

intelligence. Failure to demonstrate

27:20

mental engagement, right? And if we

27:22

think about flirting, what is like

27:23

flirting? Like what feels good when you

27:24

flirt? When someone's into you, they're

27:26

like tuned in, making you laugh,

27:28

responding to your signals, paying

27:30

attention, leaning forward, smiling,

27:32

teasing, right? All of those styles have

27:35

involvement except for I suppose the the

27:37

polite style which is like a very

27:39

specific lack of a very involved

27:42

uninvolvement. I'm looking everywhere

27:44

but you you haven't look at looked at me

27:46

all night. It has taken every fiber of

27:49

my being to look away for seeing you oh

27:52

sweeps me away into a world where I lose

27:54

my control and I can no longer be a

27:56

gentleman. And I would never I could

27:59

never defflower you but I can't get you

28:01

out of my mind. Right? A very like

28:03

intentional unengagement. So, here's the

28:06

challenge with this is being burnt out

28:08

and checked out. See, if you're burnt

28:10

out and you're on the apps and you're

28:12

not able to mentally engage, you're

28:14

really shooting yourself in the foot.

28:15

I'm not saying that it's your fault that

28:16

you're burnt out, right? That's what's

28:18

really hard. This is another one of

28:19

these things where like I think this is

28:20

why we have so much loneliness and so

28:23

much lack of like romantic connection

28:24

because some of the things that are

28:26

require not required but some of the

28:28

things that are really we've evolved to

28:29

do to help us form connections the world

28:32

we live in makes it really hard to do.

28:34

Demonstrate exclusive interest. Stay

28:36

mentally engaged. Okay. Then we're going

28:38

to I'm going to kind of speedrun the

28:40

others. We'll just go through them here.

28:41

Okay. Because these are less important

28:43

but from an effect size standpoint. So

28:45

narcissism. This is being self-absorbed.

28:48

So being self-absorbed, being arrogant,

28:50

not attractive when it comes to

28:51

flirtation, being a bad listener is the

28:54

key modifiable thing in narcissism. And

28:57

the word that makes me think about

28:58

narcissism and flirtation that will

29:00

really destroy any kind of sexual

29:02

tension that you've got building is

29:04

actually when you like correct someone

29:06

with your brilliant view. Don't do that

29:09

if you're on a date, right? Offer your

29:11

understanding. Yeah, brilliant. Don't be

29:13

a Redditor on a date. If you're talking

29:16

to someone that you're trying to flirt

29:17

with, don't correct them and demonstrate

29:19

your knowledge. This is like a key

29:21

thing. Intelligence is not demonstrated

29:23

by knowing more than the other person.

29:26

Intelligence is demonstrated by making

29:28

them laugh, making them feel

29:30

comfortable. That's the key sign of

29:32

intellect. Okay. Engagement is the key

29:35

sign of intellect, not correcting

29:37

someone. So, these are kind of like, you

29:39

know, while flirting can't be reduced to

29:42

a rule, just like in chess, there are

29:44

some opening moves that are just like

29:47

really bad. I've never seen a chess

29:49

opening. Maybe I'm wrong, but you know,

29:50

the pawns that are by the rooks, I'm

29:52

going to move that guy forward one

29:54

square. Using the word actually on a

29:56

date is the example of is the is is like

29:59

that. Next thing, lack of humor or low

30:01

self-esteem is huge, right? So, being

30:03

excessively self-deprecating, not good

30:05

for flirting. being stingy. Another

30:08

really, really important part that

30:09

people don't like. So, stinginess is not

30:12

just financial. It is also like

30:13

stinginess with your time. Stinginess is

30:15

not just money, right? It's just being

30:17

withholding of your resources. That can

30:19

include time. And it just really turns

30:21

people off. Like, people don't like it

30:23

when you're stingy. Because remember,

30:25

what is flirting? Flirting is our way to

30:27

try to gauge what a relationship with

30:29

this person will look like. And if

30:31

someone is stingy from the get-go, am I

30:33

more likely or less likely to engage in

30:36

that relationship? Here's the really

30:37

interesting thing. Different views is

30:40

also on here. These are like religious

30:41

views, political views, things like

30:43

that. But they're not like I mean they

30:45

can be deal breakers, but there's a lot

30:47

of other stuff that people can you

30:49

that's modifiable, right? So you don't

30:51

have to like change religion. You can

30:52

still have your religion, have different

30:53

views. It'll be a challenge for you to

30:55

overcome in the relationship. But like

30:57

focus on slimy approach, bad hygiene,

31:00

expressing genuine interest. These are

31:02

worth way more. Now, perceived

31:04

effectiveness of flirtation effect

31:05

tactics, the effects of sex, mating

31:07

context, and individual differences, and

31:09

US and Norwegian samples. We found that

31:11

sexual availability cues were judged

31:13

more effective when employed by women in

31:15

short-term mating contexts. Right? So,

31:18

signaling high sexuality in a flirtation

31:20

is more successful in short-term stuff.

31:22

Friendly contact such as hugs or kissing

31:24

on the cheek was not. So this is why

31:27

people kind of get friend-zoned. Okay,

31:28

so hugs and kissing on the cheek aren't

31:30

necessarily indicative of romantic

31:32

interest if performed by the woman.

31:34

Sometimes they are, sometimes they

31:35

aren't. Were judged more effective when

31:36

employed by men in long-term mating

31:38

contexts. Humor was uh more effective

31:41

when used by men in long and in

31:43

long-term uh contexts and least

31:45

effective when used by women in

31:47

short-term contexts. However, laughing

31:49

or giggling at someone's jokes was an

31:51

effective flirtation tactic for both

31:52

sexes. Okay? So, good flirting is when

31:55

you're paying attention, when you're

31:57

engaged, when your exclusive interest is

31:59

on this person. You are generous and you

32:02

can make them laugh. Giggling great for

32:04

flirting. You don't have to tell jokes,

32:06

right? Once you're starting to tell

32:07

jokes and making them laugh repeatedly,

32:09

you become a comedian. But giggling is

32:11

great. Most importantly, it is matching

32:13

their energy. Are they playful? Then you

32:15

be playful. Are they looking away? Then

32:16

you look away. But you keep looking back

32:18

and looking away, looking back, looking

32:19

away. Right? There's some exceptions to

32:21

this. If they have very low self-esteem,

32:22

you may need to signal highly, but

32:24

generally speaking, being generous,

32:26

being engaged, and making them laugh are

32:28

like the three best things that you can

32:30

do. That is all under the backdrop of

32:32

the most important thing about flirting.

32:33

It's it's like playing a game of tennis,

32:35

right? I'm going to hit the ball across

32:36

the net, and you're going to hit it

32:37

back, and then I'm going to hit it back

32:38

and I'm going to hit it back. It is

32:40

absolutely ambiguous, which is part of

32:41

the point. And then there's a slow

32:43

escalation with plausible deniability,

32:46

right? When I'm asking a co-orker out on

32:48

a date, I don't ask them out on I don't

32:49

just start holding their hand. It's

32:51

like, hey, do you want to grab a drink?

32:52

Do you want to invite other people?

32:53

Sure, we can invite other people. Signal

32:55

that I wasn't it wasn't I hadn't made a

32:57

decision about that, but I'm happy to.

32:59

I'm willing to do things your way. Hey,

33:01

do you want to grab a bite? Right? When

33:03

it's clear that everybody else is

33:04

leaving. And then here's the other thing

33:06

about flirting. Actually, this is so

33:08

important. I can't believe I forgot it.

33:09

Flirting is all about safety. So even if

33:11

you look at like courtship dances from

33:14

animals, no one is pinned down anywhere,

33:16

right? So a big part of flirtation, the

33:19

other person has to feel safe. So they

33:21

have to have an exit strategy. There

33:23

must be plausible deniability. This is

33:25

why a lot of women don't like being

33:28

asked out at a place that they are

33:30

forced to go to or men for that matter.

33:32

It makes it really, really awkward. Now

33:34

I can't escape from this situation.

33:37

Right? So if you want to flirt with

33:38

someone, give them an exit strategy.

33:40

That's huge. Plausible deniability is

33:43

what allows flirting to progress in a

33:45

safe manner, right? I should be able to

33:46

extract myself at any point. And if we

33:48

look at the deal breakers of flirting,

33:50

excessive intimacy, excessive

33:52

aggressiveness, sliminess. Okay, so

33:54

here's a really good example of slimy.

33:56

And I want y'all to pay attention to the

33:58

rounds of back and forth.

33:59

>> I just canceled a date with a man like

34:02

15 minutes before I was supposed to be

34:04

on the date. And you can tell me if you

34:06

think I was wrong for this. So, some

34:07

context. I live on the beach and by my

34:10

house there's like a boardwalk type of

34:12

situation. I was walking my dog on the

34:14

boardwalk. This other guy walking his

34:16

dog. Our dogs say hi to each other. My

34:18

dog is being a menace as he does. He's

34:20

jumping all over this guy's dog, but

34:22

this guy's dog is huge. So, it's kind of

34:23

funny. We end up talking for like, I

34:26

don't know, 15, 20 minutes. He's like a

34:28

very good-looking guy. Very funny, very

34:30

charismatic. End of this conversation,

34:32

he asks for my number. I give him my

34:33

number. That was like two days ago. And

34:35

then yesterday he texted me, asked if I

34:37

wanted to get a drink tonight. I said,

34:38

"Sure." He was like, "Can you do five?"

34:40

I'm like, "No, I have plans with my

34:42

friend, but I could do like 6:30." He

34:44

sent me two places. Like we were like

34:46

chatting a little bit planning

34:48

in the course of planning this date,

34:50

which is we're going to drinks. I

34:52

mentioned to him, I'm like, "Also, FYI,

34:53

like I don't really drink, but like I'm

34:55

down to get a mocktail or like a little

34:57

appetizer." And like not that signaling

34:59

availability if you don't drink, but

35:00

I've had guys be so weird if they ask me

35:03

on a drinks date and then I get a

35:04

mocktail that it's just like almost not

35:06

worth it to me to not say anything and

35:07

have a guy be insane. So I say that he's

35:10

like, "Yeah, no problem. It'll be fun."

35:11

He texts me like a half hour before a

35:12

date and he's like, "Hey, just FYI, I'm

35:14

running like 10 minutes late. I was

35:15

walking the dog. The dog got like

35:16

fixated on something and delayed me.

35:19

Literally no problem." I text me back.

35:20

I'm like, "Oh my gosh, been there. All

35:22

good."

35:23

>> Okay. So So let's just understand,

35:24

right? So, attractive dude, dogs get

35:26

along, good communicator, right? Gives

35:29

options, respects her space, lets her

35:32

know, hey, I'm running late. The dog had

35:33

a problem, right? So, like this is

35:35

attractive, handsome man who's good at

35:37

talking, escalating. We're going to chat

35:39

for a little bit. Can I get your number?

35:40

We text back and forth. We're setting

35:41

up.

35:42

>> He responds, "See you soon. Excited to

35:44

get you drunk on a school night." I

35:46

reply. I'm like, "Haha, like I said, I

35:49

don't drink." He says, "We'll see about

35:51

that." With a winky face. already

35:52

annoying, but I'm like, "Let me not jump

35:54

to conclusions. He's probably just

35:56

trying to be funny." And I said, "I'm

35:58

sure you're just joking, but really I'm

36:00

not going to drink." And he says, "Like

36:02

I said, I'll change your mind." To which

36:04

I responded, "I just want to make sure

36:06

that this is a joke and we're doing a

36:08

bit." And he said, "I'm very convincing.

36:10

Trust me, you'll have more fun if you

36:11

have a drink." Immediately, no. I said,

36:14

"If you're serious, I don't think we

36:15

should go out anymore. Have a good

36:17

night." And he said, "Okay, bet." Hello.

36:20

Like, so I want y'all to notice. So,

36:23

see, this is how flirting works, right?

36:24

So, he makes a joke and she's like, she

36:27

gives him an out, right? Haha, I'm sure

36:29

you're joking. And then he doubles down

36:31

and then she's like, "Hey, I don't think

36:32

you're really understanding." So, she's

36:34

giving multiple exits for the guy and

36:37

he's not taking him, right? But this is

36:38

what like I I like this example. I mean,

36:41

it's kind of scary, but I like this

36:42

example because a lot of people think

36:44

that if you are attractive, you use dog

36:46

walking strat, which which you chat

36:48

figured out, right? use dog walking

36:50

strat. Oh, like hey, if you want to pick

36:51

up chicks, just walk your dog. And like

36:53

that's a good way. The reason that

36:54

walking dog walking strat is so strong

36:56

is it gives you an opportunity for for

36:59

interaction with plausible deniability

37:01

and no pressure. That's why it's so

37:03

strong. It's such a great strat. But the

37:05

moment that this guy crosses over into

37:08

pushiness, it's a deal breaker. And I

37:10

was like preparing this lecture and 3

37:13

days ago this thing, this Tik Tok comes

37:16

across my my feed, right? And it's like

37:17

it's such a great example of a a dude

37:20

who is checking all of the boxes and

37:22

then this engages in this deal breaker.

37:24

And I've seen this time and time and

37:26

time again. Even when it comes to

37:27

successful relationships, the people who

37:29

do this well are the people who end up

37:31

in relationships. And the people who do

37:33

it poorly are the ones who end up

37:35

getting canceled on 15 minutes ahead of

37:36

time because they're not respecting

37:38

someone's boundaries. And this is what I

37:40

sort of don't like about boundaries for

37:42

a second. Yeah. Because we'll say like,

37:43

"Oh, like this person didn't respect

37:44

your boundaries." Yes, that's correct.

37:45

But the whole point of this lecture is

37:48

that it is way more than that, right?

37:50

Because there are women who are going to

37:52

be like or dudes who are going to be

37:54

this way. They're going to be like,

37:55

>> "Attention to me tonight. I'm so [ __ ]

37:57

sick of this [ __ ]

37:58

>> Oh my god,

37:59

>> touch a boob, buy a drink." I mean, it's

38:02

like very [ __ ] simple.

38:03

>> Right? And so then the problem is, okay,

38:05

on the one hand, you have people like

38:06

this, and then on the other hand, you

38:08

have people like that. So, how do you

38:09

know what to do? Flirting is literally

38:12

everyone's trying to answer ask

38:13

question, what do I do? What do I do?

38:14

What do I do? Flirting is literally a

38:17

skill set of diagnosis and intervention.

38:20

You don't know. There isn't a rule for

38:22

what to do. I mean, I've laid out the

38:24

rules as best as I think we can. I'm

38:26

sure that someone can do it better, but

38:28

whatever. Right? That's the whole point

38:29

is that flirting that knowing what to do

38:31

is not something you learn from a video.

38:33

It is it is something that you learn

38:35

from a person. And there is a skill set

38:37

of things ways to engage with that. It's

38:39

about play. It's about potential space.

38:42

It is about, hey, I don't know what this

38:44

is. And that's not a problem. That is a

38:47

potential. That's what flirting is

38:48

about.

Interactive Summary

This video provides a deep dive into the psychology of flirting, highlighting that successful interactions are built on self-esteem, managing negativity bias, and understanding social cues. The host, Dr. K, breaks down common 'deal breakers' in flirting, such as a slimy approach, poor hygiene, and lack of exclusive interest. He emphasizes that rather than relying on fixed rules, flirting is a skill of diagnosis and intervention where one must be curious, maintain plausible deniability, and respect boundaries while trying to match the other person's energy.

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