Flirting Kinda Sucks Actually
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Let's talk about what makes flirting
hard.
>> Like, oh, I've been rejected once and
like now I'm terrified and crazy.
>> That's what we all effing say. And I'm
like,
>> I'm like, okay, fine. Think you're never
going to like meet your wife?
>> No. Right. Like, just try.
>> How about being single?
>> Have you guys not been rejected by other
things in your life, like a job or
whatever, like,
>> and you keep trying like hello. Like,
we're not going to bite. Like, we want
to be approached and we want to talk to
you. Like, just read the room. You're
going to find the right girls that are
either, yes, I'll entertain you for the
night or I'll take I'll go out on a date
with you or I'll [ __ ] marry you.
Like, literally, at the end of the day,
it doesn't [ __ ] matter. It's just
like [ __ ] make a move and who gives a
[ __ ] [ __ ] because you're always going
to be in the same spot.
>> Okay, these women are talking about
rejection. They're like, it's not that
big of a deal. So, there's some really
fascinating stuff about flirting, which
is that flirting is heavily moderated by
rejection sensitivity and self-esteem.
So if you look at studies on flirting,
people who have high self-esteem are far
more successful at flirting. So
remember, if we go back to our core idea
of like what flirting is, if I am too
overt, right, I can be perceived as
borish. And remember, the goal of
flirting is plausible deniability. I
don't want to end up as as someone who's
been rejected. If you have a high
self-esteem, you can afford rejection,
right? So, these these women, I would
imagine they have relatively high
self-esteem based on how they're talking
about things because they're like,
"What's the big deal? Haven't you been
rejected by other things in your life?"
And the answer is yes. And those have
been devastating. Right? So, for some
people, rejection is is devastating and
for some people rejection is not
devastating. The higher your self-esteem
is, the more you can handle rejection.
And so oftentimes what I find when I I
work with people is that like you know
there's people who are really concerned
about rejection because it hurts so
much. So they can't afford to give
things a shot. So a lot of people like
just put yourself out there it'll work
great. But the experience of putting
yourself out there is fundamentally
different depending on what your
self-esteem is. This is why it's huge.
But like if we look at the factors that
result in a successful relationship.
This is what a lot of people don't get
right. So if you have sort of the
forever alone crowd, the people who
think they're ugly, things like that,
and they may be ugly, like there are
ugly people out there, but the problem
is that they grossly underestimate two
things, which is self-esteem and
negative bias. So if you look at the red
pill pickup artist community, they
advocate for a lot of things. Okay? So
one thing that they advocate for is you
just keep asking girls out, right? We
sort of objectify women. They're like,
it just keep asking them out. We don't
care if they're comfortable or
uncomfortable. I'm not saying all the
red pillars are like that, but they're
like, you just keep asking people out.
So, this is a really interesting
technique because it's basically
exposure and response prevention. You
were afraid of rejection. What we're
actually going to do is we are going to
advocate that you keep getting rejected
until you are no longer afraid of
rejection. And the fear of rejection is
a huge element of your end success at
getting laid or even ending up in a
long-term relationship. Does that make
sense? So, the reason that I think that
they advocate for this stuff is because
it works, right? It actually solves one
of the key problems that betas have,
right? They're like they never talk to
people. They're way too shy. So, we have
to get you used to rejection sensitivity
through exposure and response
prevention. Now, I'm not advocating for
that path because I think it
inconveniences a lot of people. Often
times, it is tied together with other
kinds of objectifying sort of uh
perspectives, but they're they're right
about the principle, which is that you
need some way to handle rejection. What
I prefer is actually directly targeting
self-esteem, right? So, let's help you
develop your confidence, which by the
way, they do too, right? So, what do
they say? If you're someone who's a
loser virgin, they say, "Hit the gym.
Get your work stuff in order, become
financially secure, become independent,
become someone that you can be proud,
you can hold your head up high, looks
max, get ripped, drive a nice car,
right?" So, all of these things will
boost some degree of self-esteem. I
don't care about the the ego stuff from
toxic masculinity or manosphere kind of
stuff. What I'm saying is just anyone
who physically exercises will the the
physiologic changes from regular
exercise will boost your self-esteem.
Your cortisol levels will even out.
You'll be less stressed throughout the
day. You'll sleep better at night. When
you sleep better at night, when you
sleep 9 hours a night because your body
is doing anabolism, your brain also gets
more REM sleep. The more REM sleep that
you get, the more you emotionally
process. So, physical exercise improves
self-esteem without any of the weird
egotistical stuff. And then you can be
proud of yourself. Right now, when you
look in the mirror, you don't think
you're pathetic. You start to look good.
You're like, "Hey, like like I look
decent." That boosts self-esteem. So,
they're on to a lot of really good
stuff. So, working on self-esteem is
huge directly. And what a lot of people
don't understand is when they when they
when they talk about mating success as a
defined thing. Women want this. Women
want dudes who are attractive. Women who
want dudes who have a big dick. Guys
only want women with big tits. Or guys
want women who are proportioned in this
particular way. guys want women who have
a particular ethnicity. Some of those
preferences may exist somewhere. I'm not
saying that they don't. But I think the
key thing that people miss is what are
the other variables in the equation. And
self-esteem is a huge modifiable
variable. Okay. The other huge
modifiable variable, and this is what's
so devastating, is negativity bias. Some
people see the glasses half full. Some
people see the glasses half empty. A
good example of negativity bias is like
in the forever alone community. There's
a lot of people who approach dating with
a huge negativity bias. And here's why
the negativity bias is so damaging.
Because remember, in flirting, there are
ambiguous signals. Most of the signals
are ambiguous, right? So there's
positive signals in flirting, there's
negative signals in flirting. Each of
those are maybe 15%. 70% of signals are
ambiguous. And if you have a negativity
bias, you are interpreting those
ambiguous signals in a negative way. So
in in the scenario without a negativity
bias, 15% positive, 15% negative, 70%
mixed signals. I don't know if this girl
is into me or not. I don't know if this
guy is into me or not. It's very
confusing. It's a lot of uncertainty.
It's very frustrating. But if you have a
negativity bias, look at how the numbers
change. 15% positive, which can even be
dumped down to neutral, 15% negative,
and then 70% am ambiguous becomes 70%
negative. Now it's 85% negative, 15%
positive. And when you have this
negativity bias and you receive an 85%
negative signal from the first person,
that reinforces your negativity bias.
And then you try again and then it
becomes worse. Now, I've tried to date
three people that are 85% negative, 90%
negative, and 95% negative. And so, what
happens with people who have the sort of
forever alone mindset is that they they
start to form this kind of like, you
know, snowflake into avalanche kind of
mentality. And they're not wrong, by the
way. This is what's really scary about
it. Those are their experiences, right?
And so then what happens is their
self-esteem starts to go down. And so
then they do genuinely have bad
experience after bad experience. As the
negativity bias goes up, their
experiences get worse. Their experiences
get worse. Their experiences get worse.
And suddenly it started as a snowflake.
Now it's an avalanche. And they're like,
I will be alone for the rest of my life.
And if you look at their interpretation
of the data, they are not wrong, right?
that this is what their experience is.
The thing that they could be wrong
about, we don't know because we don't
know what their lives are like, right?
Is which of these factors are
modifiable. And I've worked with a lot
of these people in my office and I've
seen them coming in as virgins and then
two years later they're in a healthy
relationship. I've seen success many
times. But of course, if you're
listening to this, you'll say, "Yeah,
you've seen success with other people,
but not me. Oh, look, your negativity
bias is showing, right? Oh, yeah. 50% of
people can fix it and I'm in the 50%
that can't fix it. Boom. Right there.
How do you know that? Right? You believe
that because you've had all of these
experiences. Fair enough. But this is
absolutely modifiable. And even if we
look at sort of the pickup artist red
pill community, manosphere kind of
community, they will address the
negativity bias in a really interesting
way, which is they this is why they
demonize people. And this is not just
men, right? So we see this in the female
dating strategy community and the pink
pill community. There's a lot of
demonization of the gender that you're
into. And when we demonize them, it
helps us engage with things without that
negativity bias. Or that negativity bias
is still there, but we just shape it in
a way that no longer impacts our
behavior in terms of engaging in a
relationship. It still impacts it, but
I'm able to talk to people now at least.
I use kind of that anger or that sense
of ego or that sense of demeaning the
other person to help myself feel
comfortable. It's it's an effective way
to deal with the negativity bias. Not
saying it's healthy, but it's effective.
I keep seeing comments, "Dr. K, how do I
apply this to a situation in my life?"
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really important things that we can do.
First is if you have a negativity bias,
the most important thing that you can do
is be curious about the person that
you're interacting with. So, the
negativity bias means that I'm in my own
head interpreting signals from the other
person and I'm having it reflect on me.
Oh, this person didn't laugh at my joke.
That means they're not into me. This
person chose to not drink. that means
that they don't trust me, right? So
instead, like if you literally look at
the way that the negativity bias works,
it is the negativity bias is in my own
head thinking about me. And so the
simplest best antidote is to just be
curious about the other person. Let me
genuinely get to know who cares what
they think about me, whether this is
going anywhere or not going anywhere. I
have one hour to get to know another
human being and learns a perspective
about the world that I'll will maybe
never see again. Let me make the most of
it. Let me try to understand this
person. And literally a big part of this
cognitive training that we do in therapy
is getting people out of their own head
and into something else. So other
examples are like grounding meditations,
right? Where we're literally getting you
out of your head. And that can have a
huge impact in terms of sensitivity. I
mean low self-esteem. This is where it's
really interesting. So there are high
signaling partners and there are low
signaling partners. Often times what
people with low self-esteem need is a
very high signal from the other person.
this is why they sort of end up alone
because in order to overcome like this
person wouldn't be interested in me,
right? So what they what the other
person really has to do is signal really
hard, right? They have to enter this
danger zone of overt signaling. So if
you're interested in someone who you and
you perceive that they have low
self-esteem, you need to let them know a
little bit more clearly that you're
interested and that you think they're
amazing and you would love to spend more
time with them. Cuz that thought the
thought that someone would want to spend
more time with me and that someone
thinks that I'm amazing is so
perplexing. So, if you're at all
ambiguous about it, like it's going to
get missed. And this is exactly why
flirting is the technique that gets
people together because flirting
involves reading the other person. If
someone else is able to read me, that
indicates a positive thing for our
future relationship. They understand how
I feel. They understand my worldview.
They they are able to compliment what I
need, right? Not compliment in terms of
saying that my hair looks nice. I mean
compliment is an e m n t. They can match
my energy. That's a huge part of what
flirting is about. Now let's get to the
things that make people good at flirting
or bad at flirting. So first thing that
we're going to do is talk about the
sequence of flirting. So non-verbal
behavior as courtship signals the role
of control and choice in selecting
partners. So we provide evidence based
on direct observation of behavior and
encounters of opposite sex strangers
that women initiate and control the
outcome. while female affirmative
behavior at this stage modulates the ver
male verbal output in later stages in 4
to 10 minutes. Okay, so this is one of
the key things that I think a lot of
women are missing. If you look at the
average situation, okay, so remember
that there's exceptions to this. But the
sequence of flirting happens like this.
The first thing that actually happens is
woman signals availability. And if a w
woman signals an availability, that's
how a dude knows that it's okay to
approach. Then the dude approaches.
Okay. And it's like this is literally
why we have big wedding rings. And I
mean, I'm sure there's more to it, but
if you look at like the male wedding
band and the female wedding band, one of
them is more transmissible than the
other, right? So the wedding band is the
simplest way. It's like literally
something that we put on that I don't
have to say anything. I have to do
anything. I don't have to look at you.
If I have a wedding ring on, it signals
I am unavailable. If I don't have a
wedding ring on, it signals I am
available. And if you ask people, right,
including women, would you ever wear a
ring on your wedding finger or your
wedding band, you know, four left hand,
fourth finger, right? They won't wear it
unless I mean some of them will, but
like that's the signal. That's the
fundamental signal, right? And so we
literally have baked a society that has
at least in the in the US, in India,
people wear it on the right hand, right?
We've built a society where there is a
signal of availability which is like
[ __ ] stamped on. And so you have to
signal availability first. That's what
the data suggests. Okay? And signaling
availability can be overt or covert. You
know, it can be uh smiling at someone.
It can be making eye contact with at
someone. Right? And like I don't know if
you guys remember like this thing where
it's like, "Oh, I'm looking." Oh. Right.
That's signaling availability,
continuing to look. I remember when I
was in medical school, I I had a really
good friend who was gay and I asked him,
I was like, "How do you know if a guy is
gay?" And he laughed, right? And I was
like, like, did you know I was not gay
when you first saw me? And he's like,
absolutely, man. No, there's not a
single gay bone in your body. How did
you know that I wasn't gay? And he's
like, it's about the gay eyes. It's all
about the eyes. That's how they can be
butch, they can be they can be Texan,
wearing cowboy boots, effeminate, not
affeminite, don't matter. It's all about
the eyes. It's about the gay eyes. That
was his answer. Wonderful neurologist.
You know, the a lot of the signaling of
availability actually happens in subtle
ways, right? And and so there were many
things that like in in my, you know,
relationship with with my wife now,
right? So there were many things that,
you know, she would signal pretty
overtly, which is probably what I
needed. The story that I told you guys
about, she moved over to my side of the
booth and cuz like I had low self-esteem
sort of, right? I was this mug thing,
which had helped some, but like I was
like I had this particular style of
flirting which didn't match her style
and then like I kind of warmed up to it.
Okay. So what are the things that lead
to good relationships and what are the
things that lead to bad relationships? I
better pay attention to me tonight. I'm
so [ __ ] sick of this [ __ ]
>> Oh my god.
>> Touch a boob, buy a drink. I mean, it's
like very [ __ ] simple.
>> What constitutes bad flirting? An
explorator explorative study of deal
breakers. This study is amazing. What
they did is isolate 11 things that are
bad flirting. Okay. Vulgar vocabulary,
poor looks, excessive intimacy. He she
touches me without my consent. Lack of
intelligence, narcissism, lack of humor
and low self-esteem, stinginess, bad
hygiene, slimy approach, sexist
comments, slimy comments about my looks,
different views. Okay? Lack of exclusive
interest. So, they looked at all of
these factors, right? He or she
constantly interrupts me when I speak,
poor looks, effusive, aggressive
approach, too revealing dressing. We'll
we'll go into more into these. And
here's the really cool thing about the
study. They ranked them in terms of the
size of the impact. Okay, slimy approach
is the biggest dealbreaker. Bad hygiene
is the second biggest dealbreaker.
Here's the really interesting thing.
Poor looks is second from the bottom in
effect size. Okay? So, a lot of people
think that their genetics determine
their dating success. And I've been
advocating this for this for a while,
but like people don't seem to want to
hear it or don't believe it or whatever.
But like here is another study that
shows that physical attractiveness is
not nearly as big of a dealbreaker as
your approach, your hygiene, your
exclusive interest, different views,
vulgar vocabulary, lack of intelligence.
Right? So let's go over these and
understand them. And the cool thing is
we'll understand why dating is so hard
once we realize these things. So first
thing, the worst thing that you can do
is be slimy, be cringe, right? So making
inappropriate comments and this by the
way borish unskilled not good at
flirting making inappropriate comments
number one. Okay being rude being
sexually pushy. Okay now remember that
there there are times to escalate to
sexual interest. That's what we cover in
the guide. Right? This like this is the
whole point of the guide is we cover you
guys may be thinking throughout this
lecture like what about chemistry? How
do I know when it is appropriate to
sexually you know proposition someone
sexually? How do I touch? What's the
appropriate level of touch? These are
all things that are not related to
flirting. Remember, flirting is in the
initial engagement, feeling somebody
out. And then there's a lot of stuff
that comes after that. Could do a 2-hour
lecture on each of those. That's the
whole point of the guide as it walks
through all this stuff. Okay? Being
sexually pushy. But then some people may
like so so I think this is why like this
lady is kind of confused, right? She's
like, "Touch a boob, buy a drink." So,
this is a good example of the bell curve
where like the majority of women, right,
don't want you to touch a boob when you
meet them. But there are some women who
are okay with you touching a boob. Or
maybe actually this belongs over here
because more men may be okay with you
grabbing their crotch. Okay, but this is
kind of the point. This does work for
some people, right? And so if you think
about the slimy approach, who does that
work for? Here's who it works for. It's
people who have a template of forward
behavior. You know, in this video that
we did on YouTube about why you
shouldn't date people that you're
attracted to. Kind of weird, right? You
shouldn't date people that you're
attracted to. That's because there are
all these things like projection. You're
not attracted to a human. You're
attracted to your projection onto that
human. Projection, projective
identification, repetition, compulsion.
So, all of these are other complicated
topics that we cover in the guide. But
my point is that the majority of people
will say that sliminess is the worst
thing that you can do. But there are
many people for whom sliminess works.
And here are some of the reasons, right?
One reason that sliminess can work, for
lack of a better terms, is daddy issues
if we're talking about for a woman or
mommy issues if we're talking about a
guy. Okay? Second most important thing,
bad hygiene. Okay? Bad breath, bad oral
hygiene is huge. Teeth, floss, boys and
girls, body odor, and then also a sense
of unckemptness. So, here's what's
really, really, really, really, really
interesting. Facial structure, bone
structure matters less than body odor,
right? I want you all to imagine someone
who has the most asymmetric Thorlike
6'4 amazing bone structure, who's
homeless, is missing teeth, has terrible
breath, and terrible body odor. And then
I want you to imagine someone who is 5
foot2, well-groomed, you know, has a
nice haircut, clothes that fit, has a
white smile with all of the teeth
intact. Which person do you think is
more unattractive? Like this is the
thing. I'm using extreme examples of
both, right? One who won the genetic
lottery, one who lost the genetic
lottery. But does winning the genetic
lottery and having the [ __ ] of hygiene
beat out losing the genetic lottery and
having great hygiene? The data suggests
no. Okay, data suggests no. But once
again, there's variability, right?
Because there are some people who are
exist on the planet that are more
comfortable with bad hygiene than they
are with poor genetics in terms of
facial structure or height or whatever.
Next thing, this is huge. What I really
love about doing this research is that
sometimes I stumble on a scientific
study that explains what the hell is
going on today. One of the three biggest
mistakes, okay, after being sexually
pushy and [ __ ] missing teeth and
having terrible having halattosis and
bad breath in the ballpark of that is
lack of exclusive interest. Appearing
bored, looking at other people, flirting
with other people. Okay. Signal that
they aren't interested in you
specifically, right? So, this is like,
I'm looking to get laid tonight. I don't
really care with who kind of attitude.
There's nothing special about you.
You're just a anyone will do kind of
thing. They're looking for a
placeholder. So, this is what's really
scary is that 50 years ago, a lack of
exclusive interest was a big big big no
no. One of the worst things that you can
do while flirting is [ __ ] if I'm
flirting with one person, flirting with
their friend, right? I'm flirting with
you, telling you you're hot, and I'm
going to grab this girl's ass. Terrible
mistake. This has become the lack of
exclusive interest has become the norm
in online dating culture. It has become
the standard, the acceptable, right? We
all have to be talking to multiple
people at the same time. This is why
like loneliness epidemic is on the rise.
dating and mating crisis is on the rise
because sometimes when I read some of
this research I stumble on something
that I'm like, "Oh, this is a core part
of how human beings flirt successfully.
They demonstrate exclusive interest."
Right? You take any Jane Austin novel
and then even a whiff of interest in
somebody else sends people into a
[ __ ] tail spin. A whiff, oh, I saw
you were dancing with Lady Brahman's
daughter. Oh my goodness. I'm going to
go jump in a lake. never speak to me
again. Please go away. Don't break my
heart. You looked at another woman. Oh
my goodness. Oh no. Right. And like this
has become the norm. And and this is
what's like scary about technology is
like technology is changing the way that
we interact with each other. But even
though technology is changing the way
that we interact with each other, our
brains are not changing the same amount.
So, everyone knows you shouldn't express
exclusive interest, but every one of our
brains feels equally hurt and annoyed by
that, right? Tell me I'm wrong, please.
Like, literally, like if you guys
disagree with this, you're like, "No,
Dr. K, like that's not how it works."
This is an adaptation, right? We we
learn to be okay with it because it's
standard. If other people are going to
talk to other people, like I'm not going
to overinvest in one person if they're
talking to somebody else. But if even if
you think about that kind of thinking,
it's like I don't want to be left
hanging. That's why I'm doing it. I have
never heard, and maybe I'm ignorant
here, and maybe you guys can correct me.
I've never heard someone say, "Yeah, you
know, the nicest thing is that I'm
really into this person and they're
talking to six people. Oh my god, it's
such a relief." There are situations
where people can be like, "Yeah, this
person has way too much emotional
energy. Like, they're dumping it all on
me. I wish they would distribute to
other people." But when we're talking
about flirtation, is it attractive to be
flirting with someone and they start
flirting with somebody else? Are you
like, "Oh my god, that is the hottest
thing." And people may say, "Okay, well,
if you were flirting with person A, that
may make you more attractive to person
B, right?" So, this kind of stuff
there's like some evidence for, right?
If you're like a man who's like a good
caregiver of your children, sometimes
that can attract women as an example.
But that's a different scenario from the
initial flirtatious engagement. And the
lack of exclusive interest is not just
about talking to multiple people. It is
also about a lack of interest in you
specifically. You're the same as the
other five people I'm talking to.
There's nothing special about you. I'm
not interested in you specifically. I'm
just looking for a dick. That's it. Any
dick will do. And imagine how the person
on the other side of that feels. Like
some people may be down. They're great.
Looking for a dick? I got one. Easy
peasy lemon squeezy. But that's not
usually what flirtation looks like,
right? That's like satisfying some kind
of need. So, a short-term relationship
is fine. Doesn't require a whole lot of
flirtation. I've seen this as a
psychiatrist before. You know, sometimes
people who have BPD or struggling with
addiction or or antisocial or
narcissistic or super depressed or even
have an anxious attachment style,
they're just looking to get some needs
met. Fine. I'm not saying it's always
healthy, but I'm not placing a moral
judgment on that. What I'm talking
about, remember, we're talking about
flirting here. We're talking about what
are the things to do or not do when you
are engaging with someone to keep and
and cultivate your their interest in
you. And lack of exclusive interest is a
big no no. Next, um vulgar vocabulary,
right? Females calling women females is
a good example of this. Not a whole lot
of women that are like, "Oh my god, I
love the way that he reduces me to a
biological simplicity." Crude course
language. Here's what you guys do. If
you guys want to understand what crude
course language is and how not to flirt
with people, this is what you do. You
install this game called Dota 2. And
then there's this thing in Dota 2 called
behavior score. And as your behavior
score drops, you lose the ability to
communicate. And eventually you end up
in this thing called low priority Q,
which is you with all the other
primitive creatures, terrible human
beings who are also low priority. You go
and you just listen to the
communications. Well, they can't
communicate cuz they're voice muted, but
you you feel the communication. There's
the regular humans and then there's the
people who have been banned. Low
priority Q is a great example of this.
You go there and that is the way to not
behave. Whatever they do, you do the
opposite. Next is poor looks. Okay, so
this is where unattractive body or face
dress badly, unckempt. And then here's
the other thing that's really
interesting. Unappealing movement or
posture. Okay, so this is where like I
think the looks maxers are like, you
know, on to something, right? So you can
optimize these things. It'll improve
your attractiveness for sure. So, some
of this stuff is not modifiable, but the
really interesting thing is even when it
comes to looks, and this is the whole
point behind looks maxing, right? A lot
of it is modifiable. Even the way that
you walk affects people's response to
flirting, right? Deal breaker is having
like slovenly posture, being unckempt,
you know, stumbling over to, hey, how
you doing? My name's Dr. K. I'm a
YouTuber looking to get my wee wee wet.
You want to hang out?
not very good at flirting. Okay, this is
another big one. Excessive intimacy.
Now, what does this mean? So, this can
be invading personal space, right? So,
if we think about people who are
intimate, what do they do? We share
personal space. It's a big part of being
intimate. Not even sexual. It's like,
let's cuddle. Let's hold hands. I'm
going to sit next to you. Okay, this is
physical or emotional intensity too
early. Huge. So, trauma dumping falls
into this, right? When we think about
trauma dumping, trauma dumping is over
here. Flirting is over here. they don't
overlap. Okay, so this is another big
one. Lack of intelligence. One of the
best indicators of your intelligence is
being able to make somebody else laugh.
But the really interesting thing is that
intelligence is not just IQ. Okay, it's
loweffort conversation. And you guys who
have been on the apps probably know what
I'm talking about. One of the most
annoying, frustrating things on the
planet is when someone's like, "Yeah,
no, yeah, no. What kind of stuff do you
like to do?" Stuff. What are you up to
today? Stuff. Yeah. Okay. What kind of
food do you like? Good food. What kind
of food do you not like? Bad food. This
is the [ __ ] ruins. There's no
flirtation. This thing again,
flirtation, loweffort conversation.
Okay, so failing to demonstrate mental
engagement is the key factor of low
intelligence. Failure to demonstrate
mental engagement, right? And if we
think about flirting, what is like
flirting? Like what feels good when you
flirt? When someone's into you, they're
like tuned in, making you laugh,
responding to your signals, paying
attention, leaning forward, smiling,
teasing, right? All of those styles have
involvement except for I suppose the the
polite style which is like a very
specific lack of a very involved
uninvolvement. I'm looking everywhere
but you you haven't look at looked at me
all night. It has taken every fiber of
my being to look away for seeing you oh
sweeps me away into a world where I lose
my control and I can no longer be a
gentleman. And I would never I could
never defflower you but I can't get you
out of my mind. Right? A very like
intentional unengagement. So, here's the
challenge with this is being burnt out
and checked out. See, if you're burnt
out and you're on the apps and you're
not able to mentally engage, you're
really shooting yourself in the foot.
I'm not saying that it's your fault that
you're burnt out, right? That's what's
really hard. This is another one of
these things where like I think this is
why we have so much loneliness and so
much lack of like romantic connection
because some of the things that are
require not required but some of the
things that are really we've evolved to
do to help us form connections the world
we live in makes it really hard to do.
Demonstrate exclusive interest. Stay
mentally engaged. Okay. Then we're going
to I'm going to kind of speedrun the
others. We'll just go through them here.
Okay. Because these are less important
but from an effect size standpoint. So
narcissism. This is being self-absorbed.
So being self-absorbed, being arrogant,
not attractive when it comes to
flirtation, being a bad listener is the
key modifiable thing in narcissism. And
the word that makes me think about
narcissism and flirtation that will
really destroy any kind of sexual
tension that you've got building is
actually when you like correct someone
with your brilliant view. Don't do that
if you're on a date, right? Offer your
understanding. Yeah, brilliant. Don't be
a Redditor on a date. If you're talking
to someone that you're trying to flirt
with, don't correct them and demonstrate
your knowledge. This is like a key
thing. Intelligence is not demonstrated
by knowing more than the other person.
Intelligence is demonstrated by making
them laugh, making them feel
comfortable. That's the key sign of
intellect. Okay. Engagement is the key
sign of intellect, not correcting
someone. So, these are kind of like, you
know, while flirting can't be reduced to
a rule, just like in chess, there are
some opening moves that are just like
really bad. I've never seen a chess
opening. Maybe I'm wrong, but you know,
the pawns that are by the rooks, I'm
going to move that guy forward one
square. Using the word actually on a
date is the example of is the is is like
that. Next thing, lack of humor or low
self-esteem is huge, right? So, being
excessively self-deprecating, not good
for flirting. being stingy. Another
really, really important part that
people don't like. So, stinginess is not
just financial. It is also like
stinginess with your time. Stinginess is
not just money, right? It's just being
withholding of your resources. That can
include time. And it just really turns
people off. Like, people don't like it
when you're stingy. Because remember,
what is flirting? Flirting is our way to
try to gauge what a relationship with
this person will look like. And if
someone is stingy from the get-go, am I
more likely or less likely to engage in
that relationship? Here's the really
interesting thing. Different views is
also on here. These are like religious
views, political views, things like
that. But they're not like I mean they
can be deal breakers, but there's a lot
of other stuff that people can you
that's modifiable, right? So you don't
have to like change religion. You can
still have your religion, have different
views. It'll be a challenge for you to
overcome in the relationship. But like
focus on slimy approach, bad hygiene,
expressing genuine interest. These are
worth way more. Now, perceived
effectiveness of flirtation effect
tactics, the effects of sex, mating
context, and individual differences, and
US and Norwegian samples. We found that
sexual availability cues were judged
more effective when employed by women in
short-term mating contexts. Right? So,
signaling high sexuality in a flirtation
is more successful in short-term stuff.
Friendly contact such as hugs or kissing
on the cheek was not. So this is why
people kind of get friend-zoned. Okay,
so hugs and kissing on the cheek aren't
necessarily indicative of romantic
interest if performed by the woman.
Sometimes they are, sometimes they
aren't. Were judged more effective when
employed by men in long-term mating
contexts. Humor was uh more effective
when used by men in long and in
long-term uh contexts and least
effective when used by women in
short-term contexts. However, laughing
or giggling at someone's jokes was an
effective flirtation tactic for both
sexes. Okay? So, good flirting is when
you're paying attention, when you're
engaged, when your exclusive interest is
on this person. You are generous and you
can make them laugh. Giggling great for
flirting. You don't have to tell jokes,
right? Once you're starting to tell
jokes and making them laugh repeatedly,
you become a comedian. But giggling is
great. Most importantly, it is matching
their energy. Are they playful? Then you
be playful. Are they looking away? Then
you look away. But you keep looking back
and looking away, looking back, looking
away. Right? There's some exceptions to
this. If they have very low self-esteem,
you may need to signal highly, but
generally speaking, being generous,
being engaged, and making them laugh are
like the three best things that you can
do. That is all under the backdrop of
the most important thing about flirting.
It's it's like playing a game of tennis,
right? I'm going to hit the ball across
the net, and you're going to hit it
back, and then I'm going to hit it back
and I'm going to hit it back. It is
absolutely ambiguous, which is part of
the point. And then there's a slow
escalation with plausible deniability,
right? When I'm asking a co-orker out on
a date, I don't ask them out on I don't
just start holding their hand. It's
like, hey, do you want to grab a drink?
Do you want to invite other people?
Sure, we can invite other people. Signal
that I wasn't it wasn't I hadn't made a
decision about that, but I'm happy to.
I'm willing to do things your way. Hey,
do you want to grab a bite? Right? When
it's clear that everybody else is
leaving. And then here's the other thing
about flirting. Actually, this is so
important. I can't believe I forgot it.
Flirting is all about safety. So even if
you look at like courtship dances from
animals, no one is pinned down anywhere,
right? So a big part of flirtation, the
other person has to feel safe. So they
have to have an exit strategy. There
must be plausible deniability. This is
why a lot of women don't like being
asked out at a place that they are
forced to go to or men for that matter.
It makes it really, really awkward. Now
I can't escape from this situation.
Right? So if you want to flirt with
someone, give them an exit strategy.
That's huge. Plausible deniability is
what allows flirting to progress in a
safe manner, right? I should be able to
extract myself at any point. And if we
look at the deal breakers of flirting,
excessive intimacy, excessive
aggressiveness, sliminess. Okay, so
here's a really good example of slimy.
And I want y'all to pay attention to the
rounds of back and forth.
>> I just canceled a date with a man like
15 minutes before I was supposed to be
on the date. And you can tell me if you
think I was wrong for this. So, some
context. I live on the beach and by my
house there's like a boardwalk type of
situation. I was walking my dog on the
boardwalk. This other guy walking his
dog. Our dogs say hi to each other. My
dog is being a menace as he does. He's
jumping all over this guy's dog, but
this guy's dog is huge. So, it's kind of
funny. We end up talking for like, I
don't know, 15, 20 minutes. He's like a
very good-looking guy. Very funny, very
charismatic. End of this conversation,
he asks for my number. I give him my
number. That was like two days ago. And
then yesterday he texted me, asked if I
wanted to get a drink tonight. I said,
"Sure." He was like, "Can you do five?"
I'm like, "No, I have plans with my
friend, but I could do like 6:30." He
sent me two places. Like we were like
chatting a little bit planning
in the course of planning this date,
which is we're going to drinks. I
mentioned to him, I'm like, "Also, FYI,
like I don't really drink, but like I'm
down to get a mocktail or like a little
appetizer." And like not that signaling
availability if you don't drink, but
I've had guys be so weird if they ask me
on a drinks date and then I get a
mocktail that it's just like almost not
worth it to me to not say anything and
have a guy be insane. So I say that he's
like, "Yeah, no problem. It'll be fun."
He texts me like a half hour before a
date and he's like, "Hey, just FYI, I'm
running like 10 minutes late. I was
walking the dog. The dog got like
fixated on something and delayed me.
Literally no problem." I text me back.
I'm like, "Oh my gosh, been there. All
good."
>> Okay. So So let's just understand,
right? So, attractive dude, dogs get
along, good communicator, right? Gives
options, respects her space, lets her
know, hey, I'm running late. The dog had
a problem, right? So, like this is
attractive, handsome man who's good at
talking, escalating. We're going to chat
for a little bit. Can I get your number?
We text back and forth. We're setting
up.
>> He responds, "See you soon. Excited to
get you drunk on a school night." I
reply. I'm like, "Haha, like I said, I
don't drink." He says, "We'll see about
that." With a winky face. already
annoying, but I'm like, "Let me not jump
to conclusions. He's probably just
trying to be funny." And I said, "I'm
sure you're just joking, but really I'm
not going to drink." And he says, "Like
I said, I'll change your mind." To which
I responded, "I just want to make sure
that this is a joke and we're doing a
bit." And he said, "I'm very convincing.
Trust me, you'll have more fun if you
have a drink." Immediately, no. I said,
"If you're serious, I don't think we
should go out anymore. Have a good
night." And he said, "Okay, bet." Hello.
Like, so I want y'all to notice. So,
see, this is how flirting works, right?
So, he makes a joke and she's like, she
gives him an out, right? Haha, I'm sure
you're joking. And then he doubles down
and then she's like, "Hey, I don't think
you're really understanding." So, she's
giving multiple exits for the guy and
he's not taking him, right? But this is
what like I I like this example. I mean,
it's kind of scary, but I like this
example because a lot of people think
that if you are attractive, you use dog
walking strat, which which you chat
figured out, right? use dog walking
strat. Oh, like hey, if you want to pick
up chicks, just walk your dog. And like
that's a good way. The reason that
walking dog walking strat is so strong
is it gives you an opportunity for for
interaction with plausible deniability
and no pressure. That's why it's so
strong. It's such a great strat. But the
moment that this guy crosses over into
pushiness, it's a deal breaker. And I
was like preparing this lecture and 3
days ago this thing, this Tik Tok comes
across my my feed, right? And it's like
it's such a great example of a a dude
who is checking all of the boxes and
then this engages in this deal breaker.
And I've seen this time and time and
time again. Even when it comes to
successful relationships, the people who
do this well are the people who end up
in relationships. And the people who do
it poorly are the ones who end up
getting canceled on 15 minutes ahead of
time because they're not respecting
someone's boundaries. And this is what I
sort of don't like about boundaries for
a second. Yeah. Because we'll say like,
"Oh, like this person didn't respect
your boundaries." Yes, that's correct.
But the whole point of this lecture is
that it is way more than that, right?
Because there are women who are going to
be like or dudes who are going to be
this way. They're going to be like,
>> "Attention to me tonight. I'm so [ __ ]
sick of this [ __ ]
>> Oh my god,
>> touch a boob, buy a drink." I mean, it's
like very [ __ ] simple.
>> Right? And so then the problem is, okay,
on the one hand, you have people like
this, and then on the other hand, you
have people like that. So, how do you
know what to do? Flirting is literally
everyone's trying to answer ask
question, what do I do? What do I do?
What do I do? Flirting is literally a
skill set of diagnosis and intervention.
You don't know. There isn't a rule for
what to do. I mean, I've laid out the
rules as best as I think we can. I'm
sure that someone can do it better, but
whatever. Right? That's the whole point
is that flirting that knowing what to do
is not something you learn from a video.
It is it is something that you learn
from a person. And there is a skill set
of things ways to engage with that. It's
about play. It's about potential space.
It is about, hey, I don't know what this
is. And that's not a problem. That is a
potential. That's what flirting is
about.
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This video provides a deep dive into the psychology of flirting, highlighting that successful interactions are built on self-esteem, managing negativity bias, and understanding social cues. The host, Dr. K, breaks down common 'deal breakers' in flirting, such as a slimy approach, poor hygiene, and lack of exclusive interest. He emphasizes that rather than relying on fixed rules, flirting is a skill of diagnosis and intervention where one must be curious, maintain plausible deniability, and respect boundaries while trying to match the other person's energy.
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