When you're fired off your own movie... but at least your replacement has a sense of humor about it
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Ha! Boom baby!
Ah, good, nothing.
This is the original version
of The Emperor's New Groove.
Oh, wow.
Is that like a tattoo?
And although it has small traces
of the final version...
Hey, don't touch.
Woah! No touchy.
It was a disaster
after six years of rewrites.
So much of the movie isn't working.
Burnouts.
Part of me just wants to give up
and say, you know, forget it.
And firings.
I was up half the night
just sort of grieving over this whole thing.
How do you start a movie
over from scratch?
Oh yeah, it's all coming together.
And make an all-time classic.
Bring it on.
In a third of the time.
How did we Kronk?
Well, you got me.
By all accounts, it doesn't make sense.
It's been declared Disney's best yet
and a triumph.
Now the most acclaimed film of the year.
Following the massive success of The Lion King,
Disney decided they needed another musical epic
to follow it up.
So, they brought in The Lion King's co-director,
Roger Allers.
After Lion King, I was told,
"How about developing a story
about South American culture?"
I looked at them and I said,
"Oh, the Incas."
So, I gathered a crew to do the picture,
inspired by a setting like Machu Picchu.
The mythic aspect of the Inca culture
is important to me.
I'd love to get something of the essence,
it does have to do with their gods and the sun.
It's a story about Pacha,
a llama herder.
He loves the sun.
He believes there's always a way
to bring light into any situation.
There's Manco,
the arrogant, self-centered prince.
And Pacha comes to the city,
and when he's put into a position of leadership,
he transforms the city.
It's about a common man
teaching an arrogant man how to rule.
When I pitched the original story
that I had cooked up to Michael Eisner,
he said it has all the elements
of a classic Disney film.
Disney gave it the green light
and called it Kingdom of the Sun.
Kingdom of the Sun was this really cool,
epic Disney musical.
It was epic.
It was big.
Lots of elements.
It wasn't comedy focused.
It wasn't that type of film.
It was big drama, big spectacle.
It's like a Beauty and the Beast,
or a Mermaid,
or that type of thing.
The studio really opened up
and said we don't want to keep making
the same sort of film,
and have given the people in the studio
a lot of artistic license
to try different sorts of stories.
But with that artistic license
came lots of complications.
The first of which was the plot.
What we're grappling with at the moment
is that we have a lot of elements
in this story.
Much like Emperor's New Groove,
Kingdom of the Sun had an arrogant emperor,
a humble llama herder,
and an evil sorceress,
but a ton of plot differences.
For example, in Kingdom of the Sun,
Yzma's big evil scheme involved blocking out the sun
by summoning the god of death,
not just turning Kuzco into a llama.
And the plot wasn't the only difficulty.
It's a complicated movie
because all the departments
are working simultaneously.
The production crew took a research trip to Peru
to study the Inca architecture and landscape.
And while seemingly beneficial,
it only added to the story's growing complexity.
One of my biggest faults
was to try to pull all these different elements in,
you know, the mysticism,
you know, the funny villain,
the, you know, all of this,
trying to make all these things
into a rich soup or whatever.
And maybe I tried to hold on
to too many ingredients.
It's very hard for one guy Phil
to give all the answers he has to.
The day isn't long enough.
When the movie's narrative became too unruly,
the team decided to unify it
around its initial inspiration,
The Prince and the Pauper,
a novel about two identical looking boys,
one rich, one poor,
who switch lives.
I bet we're distant cousins
cuz we look exactly alike.
Pacha talks his way out of being killed
by saying, "Let's switch places
because we look exactly alike."
And of course, everything goes wrong from there,
but they switch places
just like the Prince and the Pauper do.
But even with the refocusing,
the film would only become more ambitious,
and they still had to figure out the casting.
I talked to Roger,
and we wanted me to do
the comedy sidekick character.
They're called Huaca,
a little stone figure,
and at the time I came on,
Garry Marshall was the voice.
Gambling.
That's why people come here.
They gamble.
As they continued through it, they realized,
okay, we just don't like this.
It's not working for us.
It needs to be different.
So, they started to look into
different voice talents and things like that.
We went through a bunch.
Uh, we went through Peter Ustinov.
Same faces, same noses, all green.
Nobody liked that.
So, that was out.
And then they settled on Harvey Fierstein.
Honey, I'm so happy.
And that's the one we were working on.
Why didn't I think of that?
You know what?
I will just walk out there
and I'll tell those 50,000 people
now you come back tomorrow.
For reasons we'll discuss a little later,
the character was scrapped
and Fierstein was out.
As for the main cast,
Disney locked in three big names.
David Spade.
I can't believe I've been here this long
and no one's kissed my feet.
Eartha Kitt.
The prince.
I told you he's dead.
And the biggest name
that didn't make it into the final film,
Owen Wilson.
Oh, I've got one of those, too.
But mine sort of looks like a moon.
See right there?
In addition to Eartha Kitt,
the most important thing
that survived till the final version
was David Spade.
And not just his voice.
Boo is similar to me.
He's kind of a brat.
There you go.
Yeah.
Could you write something funny?
Sure.
There's something funny.
Yeah, that's very clever.
Jay Leno makes a smiley face.
Find him.
No, you threw off my groove.
I'm sorry, but you've thrown off
the emperor's groove.
They also film me when I record,
so they get a lot of my Elvis moves
when I talk.
What I love about Yzma
is that she's a classic Disney villain,
big scale villain,
and she's operatic.
She's over the top.
Eartha Kitt brought such an eccentric quality
to that character.
She said, you know,
that she loves to play
that sort of wild diva role.
I adore her because she goes after
what she said.
While the casting was crucial
to the film's identity,
like any Disney movie,
so was the music.
In 1997, I was approached
by the Walt Disney Company
to write songs for an animated feature
called The Kingdom of the Sun.
I was deeply flattered.
You know, I mean, Disney films
have been in my life
since I saw Sleeping Beauty.
Since the story was all over the place,
Sting was hesitant to commit to the film,
which was far more warranted
than any hesitancy to hit that subscribe button.
My only concern ever about Sting had been,
is he too sophisticated?
His music is very complex,
and would it be able to integrate well
into an animated story.
They hadn't really settled on a script.
I was writing songs in the dark,
really based on sort of hearsay
of what the film was going to be.
There was no hard script.
He eventually agreed to participate,
but only on the condition
that his wife, Trudie Styler,
could tag along
and film a documentary
about the film's production.
Hi, I'm Trudie.
I'll play the guitar.
You do what you do.
Clearly, she didn't realize
the tumultuousness
that she'd be capturing.
You just be a tinsy winsy little bit
more obnoxious and on camera.
And everything would come to a head
when executives finally saw a screening of the film.
Screening the movie like this
is having someone chop your hands off
and pull your pants down
in front of a crowd,
and you stand there with stumps bleeding,
incapable of pulling your pants back up.
I'm sat in this meeting right now,
and that's kind of determined the fate
of Brooklyn Project.
For me, so much of the movie isn't working.
I just don't know who I'm supposed to care about,
what I'm watching.
The pace seems really, really wacky,
like just so lean,
and I'm not having much fun.
Multiple reworks were attempted by the team,
but they just weren't enough
to salvage the movie,
especially since it was already
so far along in production.
If none of the outlines strike Peter as brilliant,
then they might completely shelve the project.
Instead, the producers made an unusual decision.
They split the production into two teams.
One led by Allers,
which focused on the movie's original story,
and another led by co-director Mark Dindal,
which worked on a comedic version of the film.
By this point, Allers had been struggling
on the project for 4 years.
I sort of feel like I'm standing here
with fragments of confetti
falling through my fingers.
I was up half the night
just sort of grieving over this whole thing.
He was ultimately removed from the project.
With the film's original architect gone,
the plot was uncertain,
and so was the music.
Now I hear that they want to change the script.
So it makes all the characters and the plot
and everything that songs
have been written around,
moves.
Constant rewrites made it difficult for Sting
to capture the film's emotional tone.
And despite repeated objections,
executives didn't listen.
Filmmakers want everything short and punchy,
but songs have to have a certain amount of time
to breathe,
and they have to have their structure intact.
This organization seems to want
to take the best of different cultures,
suck them up,
and then spit them out
into something that's like a hamburger.
It's really not what I want to do.
I don't think this is what they want to do, really.
Sting eventually had enough
and gave Disney an ultimatum,
writing a letter
essentially threatening to quit
if the story didn't stay true
to its original message.
Gentlemen, I have achieved genuine human values.
You don't need a theme park or a water slide.
I've been aware for a while now
that my vision of the world
and Disney's may be at odds.
I can only be candid,
but there's something intrinsically faulty
with this film,
and I find it very difficult
to continue working on something
that goes against my beliefs.
I offer my views humbly,
and I look forward to your response.
I read it, I went,
"Oh, this is a really good note."
The thought occurs.
Ironically, Sting was arguing
against the new direction,
which would culminate in an all-time classic,
but not before it was dead.
Upper management had problems.
So, they shut down the picture.
They just shut it down.
Disney executives had enough.
She's going down.
The movie was halted for 6 months.
Ultimately, the studio couldn't afford
to have sunk so much money into a project
just to throw it out entirely.
So, they demanded a full rebuild.
Most of Sting's music was cut,
and a new plot was demanded.
This time under even higher pressure.
Deadlines start to get real.
The release date coming at you like a brick wall.
Everybody's killing themselves now
to get it done.
It's like, how long is this going to take?
And I'm thinking,
I'm here 72 hours a week, buddy.
You know, drawing this stuff.
You come in for 3 hours
and you're complaining.
Give me a break.
There's sort of a molding, shaping stages.
Our story guy sort of came up with another idea,
that the story ought to be simple enough
to really have time
to get to know the characters
and their personalities,
and that's where the humor will evolve from.
And just do a blue sky thing.
Just try some crazy stuff
off the top of your heads.
So they came up with an entirely different storyline,
except that it involves a prince
who becomes a llama.
What was originally conceived
as a period piece epic
turned into a buddy road-trip comedy.
I would say it was probably
one of the most drastic pivots
in Disney animated film history.
Several things have happened.
We changed the name of our film
from Kingdom of the Sun
to Kingdom in the Sun.
We also have a year and a half now
to do the film.
So, it's not a time for faint hearts.
Where animation technology stood in the '90s,
that was not a lot of time.
And although you can only hand-draw
2D animation so fast,
the writing team was pushed
to make up that time.
I wrote the whole scene,
that whole dinner party scene,
in 15 minutes.
Hey, did you see that sky today?
Talk about blue.
Peter Schneider, the head of the studio,
just burst out laughing,
and everybody laughed.
And then at the end of it,
Tom Schumacher just turned to me and goes,
"Well, Dave, looks like you saved your character."
The comedic direction was now validated,
but the rest of the plot
still needed to be reworked.
I heard that MO was going to be
the main character of the movie,
that Pacha was out of the movie,
that they changed the setting of the movie
from Peru to Nebraska,
and they were all going to be sheep
instead of llamas.
The original plot followed Manco and Pacha
as they live the other's life
and work to defeat Yzma,
who threatens to block out the sun
to prevent herself from aging.
Not only was the story thrown out,
but so was the idea for one of the characters.
We have a new Pacha.
The old Pacha was 16 years old.
This one's now 45.
He's big.
He's a big farmer with big hands.
There are sort of like two storylines
going on at one time,
which is the Pacha-Kuzco storyline.
Then there's sort of like a B storyline,
which is Yzma and Kronk the villains.
The biggest difference
in the Kingdom in the Sun version
from the Emperor's New Groove version
was that in the second act,
Kuzco stayed in Pacha's village.
They didn't go on the road back to the palace.
It wasn't a road movie yet.
So instead it was like an episode
of the Andy Griffith Show,
or The Office, or something,
where you just meet
a bunch of weird eccentric characters.
Since Pacha was 45 instead of 16,
Owen Wilson was no longer a fit,
so he was fired,
and a much warmer, mature voice
was brought in.
John Goodman brought such a warmth
to the Pacha character.
Pacha is just a big, burly,
good-looking, dependable family man.
It's unlike any other feature
I've ever seen before.
It's just so different and so good.
Dad, I ate a bug today.
Oh, was mom baking again?
Don't tell her I said that.
But the one character that to me
takes the film beyond hilarity
is Kronk.
If you're thinking,
"Where have I heard this voice?"
Well, you might be hearing this.
Is it weird that we're in a group text
with our friend's wife,
but not our friend?
Or this character from Ted,
who's actually a lot like
the dim-witted Kronk.
My longest relationship was like 6 months,
and then she farted in her sleep.
I'm like, I'm out of here, man.
We have this beefcake character named Kronk.
He's basically Yzma's boyfriend.
What about dinner?
First, I started playing him off
as a sort of vain character,
and I think he's just more of a lovable,
hunky type of character.
Kronk replaced Huaca,
the scrapped character mentioned earlier
as Yzma's stooge.
Fun fact, Huaca's design
can be seen in this scene here
as an Easter egg.
You know, instead of making them dark like that,
I thought, you know,
maybe he likes to cook spinach puffs.
Be a shame, working on this dinner.
That's where he came from, you know,
down here,
as opposed to up here.
All the elements of the film
were coming into place.
And even when the plot didn't make sense,
they stole an old trick from Monty Python,
when suddenly the animator
suffered a fatal heart attack.
The cartoon peril was no more,
and wrote the plot imperfection
into the film.
How did you get back here before us?
You got me.
By all accounts, it doesn't make sense.
While the original version of the movie failed
despite constant care, effort,
and poring over every detail,
there is an opposing philosophy
that when life gets hard,
care less about it.
This movie, there was no script,
which is really rare today.
We would just come to work and go,
"Okay, so what's the next scene?"
There's something to be said
about taking a carefree approach
to one's endeavors,
especially creative ones.
If you're not so hung up on the result,
you just might get the best possible one.
I'm Adam.
This is Spinach Puff.
I mean, ScreenPuff.
If you liked this, check out this next video.
And as always,
thank you for watching.
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The production of Disney's 'The Emperor's New Groove' was a notoriously turbulent process. Originally conceived as a serious, epic musical titled 'Kingdom of the Sun' directed by Roger Allers, the project suffered from massive story complications, creative disagreements, and character struggles. After years of development, the film was nearly canceled until it was completely overhauled into a comedic buddy-road-trip film. By embracing a more spontaneous and lighthearted approach, the team successfully transformed the failing project into an acclaimed, beloved classic.
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