His brand is measles, raw milk, and

rabid raccoons.

>> No, you forgot exploding diarrhea.

>> Hi everyone, this is Pivot from New York

Magazine and the Fox Media Podcast

Network. I'm Cara Swisser

>> and I'm Scott Galloway. Do you think

people were tuning in today hoping to

get someone else? [laughter]

>> No, it's not. [ __ ] I thought he was

gone.

>> I know. You thought it was Scott free

August, but he wanted to stay an extra

day. You did.

>> That's what happened here.

>> Yeah. Did you catch Dana Bash's

interview with RFK Jr. on Sunday? I

mean, let's listen to an exchange about

childhood vaccines and autism in which

he sounded like a rapid raccoon.

>> Are you also trying to find out how it

interacts with people's DNA, what's

predisposed to uh to to have an autistic

child? Are you doing both? Yeah, but but

Dana, you probably don't understand this

because you're not a scientist, but

genes don't cause

>> genes don't cause epidemiral

environmental. That's what I'm asking.

Are you studying the environmental

>> looking at all the different

environmental exposures? But your

statement, you have been fooled. Your

statement that this has been studied is

not true.

>> He was lying there. It was full of

errors. He was crazy. He was also

aggressive physically. I thought I

thought Dana handled it beautifully. He

seemed insane. Um thoughts?

>> If Fox News can can literally pollute,

litter,

defecate all over the cabinet, then my

attitude is okay, let's go to cable

news. We get to know them. We get to see

their intellect. I thought that in the

last week

uh Caitlyn Collins, Dana Bash, and

Margaret Brennan demonstrated a skill. I

think a lot about this. I do not have

this skill. I I really don't. And people

don't realize what an incredible skill

it is. And that is in a impromptu ad,

you know, sort of ad hoc, audible, click

on your feet way to push back in a

forceful yet dignified way. I mean,

these these three women, they put on a

master class because

>> I would agree.

>> And I'll come back to his comments. I

mean, no surprise, he's full of

conspiracy theory, has absolutely no

scientific background. But the thing

that struck me was just how adept at the

applone. You know, people are [ __ ]

posting that cable news doesn't matter

anymore. Some of the most talented

people in media are still in those

seats.

>> Yeah, this is important. This was an

important interview.

>> The way that Dana was able to forcefully

push back but not be disrespectful. And

also what Margaret was able to do with

that village idiot that said uh the the

accusations against against uh

>> Max Miller. Max Miller shouldn't be

fodder for media. It's like, oh, [ __ ]

The media talks about every elected

official,

>> correct?

>> That has accusations like this. I mean,

that was just such weak sauce. And she

was able to say just very quietly and

elegantly or softly and elegant, well,

actually, we cover these stories from

both political parties all the time,

>> right? They just did Graham Platiner.

>> But I thought Dana was outstanding. And

the and the moment that stuck out to me,

and I'll turn it back to you, was when

he raised his fingers for finger quotes

and then said the experts. I was like,

well, okay, who are we supposed to

trust? Of course, we trust experts.

Expert means you have certification,

you've done the diligence, you have the

domain expertise, and perhaps you've

devoted your life to not only trying to,

okay, it's arrogant to say they have the

right answers, but they have the least

wrong answers of anyone because they

devoted their life to understand the

[ __ ] And the thing about quote unquote

scientists that doesn't get enough play

in peer-reviewed research, if a younger

academic comes along and challenges your

views and is right, academics celebrate

it. They're like, "That's great. we've

made this better. They don't double down

and say, "No, my my now incorrect

information is the right way." And so,

let me ask the question I would have is

who's he going to put in between these

air quotes then that we're supposed to

listen to? Some housewife who got a

following on TikTok? Of course, we

listen to experts. That's the whole

[ __ ] point.

>> Yeah, I would I I thought this was

really a critical interview. Now,

interestingly, he's obviously running

for president. He just posted a picture

of him sailing except he's like a like

speaking of Teu JFK. Uh he he was he's

trying he's running for office. Let's

just be clear.

>> He is. Um with let me just tell you

Cheryl Hines is no Jackie Kennedy.

>> You mean the marvelous Mrs. Measles?

>> Yeah. Right.

>> I love that. Um yeah, this guy is like

his brand is measles and raw milk and

rabid raccoons.

>> No, you forgot exploding diarrhea.

>> Exploding diarrhea. Yeah. and she was

trying to get answers out of him, but he

was he was blaming everything on the

Biden administration. I don't know how

you could blame exploding diarrhea on

the Biden. He took no responsibility for

the measles outbreak, which is

unprecedented if you see the charts.

It's like like thousands now versus like

three, a small amount of measles. Um

it's he took no responsibility. He was

screaming. He seemed insane. And he was

fiscal. I I I was sort of like Dana He

was leaning into her. He's so

aggressive. He's he's he's a dangerous

person, I think, in a lot of ways and

very uh volatile clearly, you know, his

his history of drug use is like on

display, like has never gotten help for

it in the way he needs. Um, and it's

just it was a really disturbing

interview, but I thought Dan handled

well. I thought Margaret with this is

Mike Turner who was the person um and by

the way speaking of someone who really

failed on his video was Max Miller

himself where he said do you think if I

was hitting her I'd have made her she'd

have made me dinner. Yes, actually

that's like the classic uh abused wife

uh syndrome. Um he he looks terrible.

his father-in-law, Bernie Marino, who is

a senator, um, finally slapped back as a

as a father and a grandfather uh to him

and called him psychologically ill

essentially. Uh, he had apparently been

threatened because he there's rumors he

is gay. Um, but Max Miller actually

explicit seemed implicitly threatened

him really with outing him. I think

that's what he was doing. I mean, the

whole thing is so sorted and grotesque,

but they think they're going to flip

that seat, that Max Miller seed, and he

is he is, you know, he had had previous

relationship with Stephanie Gisham, um,

who has talked about him being abusive,

this guy, and then they, you know, they,

of course, they're going to start to

surface all his various drunken abuse

stuff that he it has, uh, there was

pictures of him in college. Um, this is

a two troubled people, RFK Jr. And then

um you know I just think a lot of these

interviews and Caitlyn of course last

week have been you're right dignified

answer the question please answer the

question here are the facts and they've

done a great job.

>> I I think there are certain red lines I

think the left needs to come up with an

aspirational vision of masculinity

otherwise that void will be filled by

really

>> by dominance and misogyny from the

right.

>> Yeah.

>> And one of those things I think is is a

move to protection. The whole point of

of massing a certain amount of strength

and power is so she can protect others.

That's the whole shooting mass. That is

the ends. And when someone insults your

wife's looks, you don't support them for

president, Senator Ted Cruz. That's a

red line. That's it. That you're out.

That it does. You don't need to be a

senator. You need to be a husband. And

if if there is anything anything

resemble I do believe in due process. I

do think in our society we have a

tendency that the accusation is the

conviction. I do think innocent until

proven guilty. But on certain

accusations,

>> there's a lot of troubling patterns

here.

>> When there's a ton of corroborating

evidence in a fact pattern, when the

daughter of your daughter,

there's evidence that this individual

broke a 2-year-old's collarbone.

You don't wait and focus group test this

and get worried about being outed for

having an account where you were

soliciting, possibly soliciting for gay

sex. That's it. You use the whole point

of amassing that power. Even if you have

to spend it all, even if you lose the

power, even if you get voted out as the

whole point of amassing that power is to

protect the people close to you.

>> I agree.

>> And

these aren't men. These aren't

>> Yeah. These aren't men. That's

>> these are these are you pro the whole

point of power is so you can protect

your wife and your granddaughter and

your daughter. And the fact that he

waited this long

>> to say anything, it's like Jesus Christ,

dude.

>> What What's the point of all this?

>> This is Senator Marino. I know. The

whole thing is really gross. And

actually, it's very on brand for these

people. Aggressive dunking, angry. Um,

uh, I don't know if you know this.

Someone You got You got dunked on by

Spencer P.

>> Oh my gosh, you sent that to me. That

made my weekend.

>> Oh my gosh.

>> Should we read the tweet? Hold on.

>> Yes, let's read the tweet. Scott

Galloway is a perfect example of perhaps

the most pernitious people in society.

So first off,

>> he doesn't know perish.

>> What's the overunder on? He actually

understands the word pernicious.

>> I don't think he

>> Anyways, the stupid smart person

educated beyond his intelligence, smart

enough vocabulary to justify his ego and

smuggness, but too stupid to understand

basic realities of communist smart

people.

>> Okay, this is what stupid stupid people

do trying to use AI. Yeah,

>> this was so clearly written by AI.

>> Why did he pick you out? We wasn't your

Bill Maher thing.

>> I I I don't I literally have no idea. I

don't

>> you were very supportive of Fouchy and

cuz you just slightly laughed at him.

Bill Maher joke. They were like giving

you a hard time. But it was like I I

think it was must have been Bill Maher.

He must have seen you, right?

>> Or the M Dani doxing thing. Maybe the M

Donnie do.

>> But why would he go out?

>> Would he like the M Dami doxing thing? I

don't I

>> I I don't know what prompted him. I was

like,

>> "All I can say is, and the reason I read

>> call him a [ __ ] many times when he was

running, that is fair."

>> As FDR said, please judge me by my

critics. Spencer, if you're out there,

please continue to [ __ ] boast me. I I I

I

there are a few people.

>> Who's next? George Santos. What What in

the [ __ ] This is like

I'm not [clears throat] on Twitter, so I

don't care what people say about me now.

>> I know. I know. But so I don't Yeah, but

I didn't I was trying to figure out I'm

like when did who decided let's go after

Scott now?

>> I don't know. Anyways, but look, he lost

to a socialist and an incompetent.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, I think he's fading into the

distance and he's desperately clinging

to some form of relevance

of him running for mayor. And I guess

that's over. He must not have many

choices. He's going to pick some fights.

Anyway, Spencer, you're a Pratt.

That's a British term for idiot. Anyway,

it made me laugh my ass off when I saw

it.

>> Yeah, I you notice you were the first

person to forward it to me.

>> Well, I was like, what? I was Someone

said it to me. I was like, who? Like, it

was such a like why is he bothering

Scott? I mean, there's so many more

worthy people to bother Scott, you know,

on the regular. But this was weird.

Anyway, congratulations. We've got to

dig into Alphabet, Amazon, and Microsoft

added a combined 1.5 trillion in value

following Q2 earnings. Of note, Amazon

sales totaled over 80 billion uh up from

13% a year earlier and Meta's profit was

down 14% from the previous year as a

company's capex forecast for the year

increased to $130

billion. We're recording ahead of

SpaceX's earnings on Tuesday. Speaking

of SpaceX, Tesla executives reportedly

been told to prepare to separate the

company's China business ahead of a

potential merger with SpaceX, which I

predicted here. Elon dismissed the

report as fake news, which means it's

true. Um, so talk a little bit about any

predictions on SpaceX earnings and

you're going to be on vacation. So, give

us a guess of what the stock prices when

you return. So, let's start with

Alphabet, Amazon, and Microsoft.

These companies are just incredibly

well-run and continue to I mean that the

I as someone who loves earnings reports

and I read these things and I'm just

sort of like uh consistently blown away.

Uh Amazon AWS sales jumped 37%. That's

it fastest growth since 2021 blowing

past the 31% consensus. Total revenue

crossed 200 billion for the first time

in a single quarter. Net income get this

car surge 245%.

>> Yeah. Now most of that or some a lot of

that is from these firms have become now

tracking stocks for

>> for um their investments or for some for

AI because 53 billion of uh of that was

from anthropic investment game.

>> Jasse raised capex guys

>> investment game so couldn't could not be

possibly not real eventually but go

ahead.

>> Well not recurring or it's Alibaba right

>> not structural unless they continue to

be great VCs to get it. They would argue

we're going to continue to have access

to these types of investments, but

they're not VCs. This isn't a businesses

they're in. So, the market typically

discounts these types of one-time gains.

Jasse raised capex guidance to 220

billion. Uh, look, and their stock was

up, Amazon stock was up dramatically.

Meta revenue reached 60 billion, up 28%.

Uh, their e their EPS missed estimates

by 14%. My guess is because they keep

increasing capex as they're announced.

He's doubling. He is making a bet.

>> Yeah, they're fully in this AI uh

capital war. Um he confirmed the Meta is

fielding buyout offers for its compute,

hinting at an eventual cloud business

and infrastructure business. I think

this is a really big story and that is

everyone's moving from the front end to

providing infrastructure. I wonder if

it's flipping. Analysts called the AI

monetization answers vague even as

capback guidance rose and shares tumbled

as much as 11%. So this really was a

tale of two cities. Microsoft revenue

hit 90 billion up 18%.

>> Incredible.

>> While EPS was a beat uh uh Azure passed

100 billion in annual revenue growing

43%.

Co-pilot seats doubled sequentially to

over 30 million up from 20 million. The

thing that's interesting there is that I

work or an investor in a company called

section that helps companies upskill

their AI and the general consensus among

companies is that co-pilot is probably

the weakest of the AI products and yet

what people don't realize is when you

have a recurring revenue relationship

and salespeople and someone saying you

know what

>> enhance a feature yeah

>> you may not we may not have the best

frontier model but guess what

>> useful

>> uh you have a recurring revenue

relationship with us it integrates into

your workflow and also we're very

security-minded. Do you really want to

take a chance on this new AI? It's not

the best model. It's the

>> That's what they do with everything.

That was explorer. That was that's

Microsoft, right? That's their That's

Microsoft. It's good. It's good enough.

You know, good enough was always the

Microsoft thing. And they they are

actually I'm finding I use Alphabet

search for a lot of AI answers like

>> their capex guidance dropped uh a bit.

Their commercial backlog climbed 84% to

680 billion. The only the only thing

here but this again speaks to how smart

they are investing in the growth areas

of technology. Their legacy products are

eroding is Windows devices fell 7% and

Xbox content dropped 10%.

>> Really trouble. We should get into that

when you come back that

>> but these companies imagine imagine if

you're a cable company and you had uh so

their legacy products are struggling

with the same thing that most media

companies legacy products but the thing

is Warner Brothers Discovery or or or

you know named the company Paramount

they also don't have Tik Tok or

Instagram reels these companies early

recognize that some of their legacy

assets are declining and where they're

so brilliant is they take that cash flow

and they invest really adeptly adeptly

in the future. I mean, these companies,

it's just crazy how well. And then

finally, Apple revenue hit 109 billion,

up 16% with iPhone sales climbing 22% to

54 billion.

>> Apple got dinged a little bit because

some of the earnings were tariff

related, right?

>> Well, they're about to get two bill a $2

billion re refund check on tariffs that

consumers have already paid for. So,

what do they pay for the two bill? I

mean that that thing is just so

inefficient and so stupid. Services

revenues was a miss uh which I think

took the stock down and Cook warned

memory driven supply constraints uh will

worsen through the holiday quarter. His

final call is CEO and by the way the guy

deserves to take just the biggest of all

victory lapse. Uh EPS beat estimates

um uh 11 cents of that came from a

onetime tariff refund. shares dropped

roughly 7%

>> because the tariff thing they were

>> and guidance

>> that seemed to disturb they were

>> but the stock has had the stock has just

been an unbelievable consistent

>> performer

>> I have to say of all the companies al

someone [music] asked me who's going to

win in the air thing I'd go I'm not sure

number the other one but it's Alphabet

>> so this quarter just validated again

Google was never dead revenue hit 120

billion up 24%

beating the consensus 117 billion

um the business. Everyone assumed AI

chatbots would gut specifically search

grew 17%. Right. So the the notion that

the the bare case on Google that chat

GPT and perplexity would eat search. It

just isn't showing up in the numbers.

>> It's not. Yeah.

>> Cloud is now the real story. Not search.

>> Let me say they scrambled. They were

behind and they scrambled to

>> they figured it out. Well, yeah,

>> Google Cloud revenue climbed 82% to 25

billion with operating income at to grow

to grow a business 82 billion while or

I'm sorry 82% while maintaining 33%

operating I mean that's just that's

staggering.

So it's a cloud business that's going

from an all surround to profitable at

scale which is hard to do. Cloud backlog

grew to 514 billion.

So

>> Sundar Pachai, he's the next Tim Cook. I

think

>> the the overhang is capex and that is

the stock sank sank in extended trading

as Alphabet raised their capex guidance

to 200 billion from the prior 180

billion and quarterly free cash flow

went negative at 5.9 because 45 billion

in capex outpaced operating cash flow.

This is the same tension we're seeing

across most of big tech with the

exception of Apple and that is okay we

get that AI works but will AI pay in the

capex you're allocating will we see the

type of return you're expecting but

Alphabet these earnings cleanest

illustration of a great quarter stock

punished anyway because the results were

were I mean I saw the results as just

being strong on any segment. Yeah. The

the one tech company suffering for too

much spending and too much debt is

Oracle. Continues to to

>> stock cut in half the last 12 months.

>> Keep going. Yeah. They're the ones

people don't people trust Google to turn

to be able to keep Well, not that

Oracle's other business, their their

legacy business is hurting, but people

are questioning their spending and their

debt is close to junk, which is

interesting. And a lot of debt. A lot of

debt. Larry, sure you want to buy buy uh

buy Warner. Anyway, uh SpaceX very

quickly,

>> they have their first uh

>> earnings on Tuesday.

>> Earnings on Tuesday. So, it'll file its

first earnings report. It's going to be

really interesting. It'll um also the

more interesting thing than probably the

earnings will be that it'll be it'll uh

unlock the largest insider share sale in

market history. Now, often times when

people are scared of of a of of shares

being um unlocked for sale, the com the

markets have already anticipated that.

But the company reports um aftermarket

close on the 4th. And the report

triggers a lockup release letting

insiders sell, get this, uh 912 million

shares. And get this, the options

markets are pricing a 15% swing in

either direction after results. And

roughly 219 million shares are sold

short, raising the odd of the squeeze if

if if results of be if there's a beat.

>> It's sticking right now, but it's down.

It's down in one month. It's down 30 31%

essentially 6 months 31 year to date.

>> Yeah, it's it's been cut in half since

its intraday peak of 225 and it's 20%

below its IPO listing price of $135. So,

it's technically a broken IPO. And this

is despite the fact that underwriters

typically set first quarter targets low

during the road show to guarantee an

early beat. When whenever I've been on a

board where we take a company public, we

basically book we basically lock the

first quarter earnings call that it'll

be a beat.

>> So prediction. Give me a prediction for

SP. Will Tesla be folded in?

>> Well, you said it. This is your

prediction. You said that you think

Tesla will be folded in that he's

planning to put all of it under one

roof.

>> Yeah. And that's why Tesla's shares are

holding like above 300. I I think it'd

crash if that wasn't a possibility.

Okay, SpaceX prices at 110 right now

when you return from your Sojour.

>> Uh so as much as I like to ship both

SpaceX, if I were to make a bet, it

would be that there'll be a significant

pop because of all the short selling and

the anything but bad news will result in

a short squeeze that sends the stock up

temporarily, but it'll be a sugar high

and the stock will resume its downward

march. But on earnings, if unless

earning unless there's a surprise to the

downside, which there shouldn't be on

the first earnings call, any any glimmer

of like, oh, maybe there's some, you

know, this is a great company. Any

buying is like a bunch of people trying

to get through a crowded door cuz so

many people are short of the stock. So,

if if I have to predict on after hours

after hours, a bit of a short squeezing

up and then it it quickly resumes its

downward march.

>> We'll see. And also Elon's behavior so

far. He's had a pretty bad couple of

weeks. And maybe if Gwen Shotwell is the

one talking, maybe if he shuts up that

would work. And there's like he's he's

really posting a lot of crazy [ __ ] right

now. Like like do you have anything else

to do but post crazy [ __ ] I mean it's

not Spencer Prep, but still. All right,

let's go on a quick break. When we come

back, AI hacks and cyber chaos.

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>> Scott, we're back. It's being called

cyber security's Jurassic Park moment,

which is kind of frightening and not the

good part of the movie. Anthropic says

that its models hacked into three

outside companies during testing. The

news comes just days after open egg

revealed one of its AI agents escaped a

test environment and hacked a startup he

hugging face. The hacks are increasing

pressure on the White House to address

AI security. Trump signed an executive

order in June asking AI companies to

voluntarily submit their most powerful

models for government testing before

releasing them publicly, but there's

still no real AI regulation from the

administration or Congress. What a

surprise. This cyber chaos era is

really, I think, problematic and and

dangerous given the lack of AI

regulation. And speaking of cyber

attacks, something that Nicole Pearl

Rothro told me in a recent interview,

what was going to happen, federal

authorities are warning critical US

infrastructure could be at risk after

seven states reported cyber attacks on

water and wastewater system, which is

precisely what he predicted. The warning

comes after US officials say Iran was

likely behind the coordinated cyber

attack on water systems in Minnesota.

Trump is blaming Minnesota Governor Tim

Walls for that, saying Iran has bigger

problems than worrying about Minnesota.

I don't even know what he's talking

about. um talk a little bit about this

because they really these things are

jumping out of sandboxes because that's

their job to jump out of sandboxes,

right? If you're going to be a hacker,

if you tell it to hack, it'll hack. Um I

think a lot of people are really under

under reporting this story, these these

attacks. Cuz with AI, you really can.

It's not just Iran. It could be just

anyone. It could be it could be Spencer

Pratt attacking Minnesota, you know,

with these tools.

>> You use the correct term. This is more

Jurassic Park than Terminator or Skynet

because someone left the gate open and

>> but they purposely did, right? No, they

didn't. They got out. They jumped out.

>> But someone someone in my understanding

is gave the the AI directions on how to

go get this. It just they were shocked

by how creative and ambitious it was.

>> Right. Right. Right.

>> And so it's more I think this is a story

of competence, not sentience.

>> Okay.

>> This is why we need regulation. If you

were to if you were to have AI

um basically say the moment you perceive

an existential threat, launch our our

birds, our missiles, you have to have a

person somewhere in there or you have to

have an AI that says okay any kind of

existential threat to humanity that

results in the harming of anybody or

economic harm or doing anything illegal

needs to send up red flags that notify a

regulatory body, the the executives.

So what I don't get is I I think this is

super interesting that these things

might it's like

the thing I thought of and this is a

weird analogy but there were there were

Japanese

soldiers

in the hills of the Philippines 20 years

after the war ended who used to come

down and terrorize the villages and

shoot at perceived enemies because they

had orders. They were sent in the hills

towards the end of the war and they were

they said go into the hills we have to

withdraw because we're getting beaten

but terrorize the [ __ ] village and

Americans and the enemy. And 20 years

later these individuals who were part of

the Imperial Army, they were still

following their orders and they actually

I thought this was such an interesting

story. In one case they had to find the

commanding officer. This is like I think

in the 50s or 60s

to and then transport the commanding

officer to the hill where they think

these guy was hanging out and start

yelling I'm you know major or general

Takashidto

come down you are relieved of your duty

and that was the analogy I thought these

AIs are taking their orders very

seriously

but someone did give it the order and

where I go is the same place And that is

you wouldn't sell if this this if this

technology according to the the leaders

of these firms is more powerful than

nuclear bombs. Well, you wouldn't let

Oenheimer sell these bombs into Proctor

and Gamble.

>> Right. No, I agree.

>> So, we need we need a thick layer of of

friction and let me use the R word,

regulation. That doesn't mean And by the

way, folks, good regulation is good for

industries. It they know what rules

they're playing by. It it it shields

them from frivolous lawsuits. I think I

think we're getting to the point with

these guys where they're actually pretty

sincere in saying, "Let's figure out a

way that we don't just ruin it for all

of us and let's figure out again 60-day

waiting period on any new product to

battle test the [ __ ] out of it. Give it

start asking it." Hey, is there any way

you can figure out a supervirus and see

what happens [laughter]

>> exactly? I mean, one of the things that

um that's gain of function testing is a

little bit disturbing actually. Um one

of the things that strikes me every time

because I've interviewed dozens of

people who who exactly explain what

could happen like they're like this

could happen, this could happen. This

could every time that one of these

stories breaks, these companies are

shocked. It jumped. And I'm always like,

what do you It's like your your kid like

your kid is a troublemaker and you're

shocked. Like it's sort of like me

saying I'm shocked that that Saul found

the Starbursts hidden in my drawer. Like

I just am not shocked. I know he will.

He's a very inventive kid. Um it just is

he wants the Starburst, right? It just

it's that to me is the like and it since

they're shocked, why don't we just make

the rules for them? Like since we're not

shocked that this is what happens and

you know the fact that I mean the Trump

administration has been one big giveaway

to the AI industry in a way that's now

veering on dangerous as far as I'm

concerned.

>> I'm curious. So you speak to more, and

I'm going to use air quotes, experts as

in actual experts.

>> Yes. Experts who know what they're

talking about guys.

>> And you know how I feel. I I tend to

think some of this catastrophizing as a

fundraising strategy, but what what have

the people you've talked to about this

this this hugging bear jumping the lab,

what do they think about what have they

said about it? Is this the threat that

people are worried about? They feel as

if they they are not correctly

anticipating the problems. It's sort of

like, okay, if you put a knife on the

steering wheel, maybe if there's an

accident, someone's going to be knifed.

>> Knife on a steering wheel. That's good.

>> One of the jobs I was going to do if I

worked for the government, if I had

gotten in, but I'm gay. Um was

anticipatory stuff. S I know. SA um was

anticipation of stuff like this. like

really true anticipation like okay

here's the you know I love remember the

movie Three Days of the Condor that's

what he did that's

>> oh my god Robert Redford and the most

beautiful one of the most beautiful

women of the 20th century who am I

talking about

>> Fay Dunaway

>> spectacular

>> yeah that's a fantastic [ __ ] movie

what amazing movie

>> Chinatown the three musketeers beautiful

woman I am so dating myself right did I

tell you about the time I had a high

ball at the polo lounge with Angie

Dickson I used to party with these Cool

cats and Kuba. [laughter]

>> Yeah. Lee uh Lee Grant.

>> I've met Johnny Carson.

>> Lee Grant. I'm trying to think of people

in that era. Beautiful women that um

Yes. I mean

>> Margaret

the best. Okay. We're not aging

ourselves. Let's let's move forward in

age.

>> Ann Margaret is hot hot. Go watch Ann

Margaret dance in any way and you she's

as relevant today as she ever was. Um,

but this is the anticipation and it has

to be

>> when I was eight.

>> Yeah. Her and Barbara Eden.

>> Yeah. Yes. Master Jeie, go to your

bottle. It's a I have come so far. I

have come so far.

>> If you had Genie, you would put her in

her bottle. I know that.

>> I go. Anyways, we're not going to talk

about it. I think Barbara Eden. Did I

tell you I sat next to Barbara Eden on a

flight to New York when I was a first

year analyst at Morgan Stanley?

>> She's still beautiful. gorgeous and

super nice, too.

>> Yeah, she's lovely. She's lovely.

Anyway, we're getting off. This is

dangerous and could kill us. Okay, so

guys, we need some and

>> escaped the bottle and is killing Larry

>> Hag [laughter]

stuck a shank in his neck.

>> Larry

shank anyway guys, we need it's not

coming from this. And the danger is

we'll have overregulation if something

terrible. That is what it will happen.

That is exact like we we have time to do

it in the right way now and you need to

stop. Okay. Now I'm going to get to

another story. Elon Musk is diving into

politics despite recently telling the

economist he got too involved before.

Now he's authorizing his super PAC to

spend between 100 and 200 120 million to

help GOP in the midterms. He's already

spent a lot. Elon pack has reportedly

plan on spending on house races in

states including California, Wisconsin,

and Washington. It's also targeting key

Senate races in Alaska, Iowa, Maine,

Michigan, and Ohio. Troy Jackson, the

Democratic Senate candidate who's

running against Susan Collins in Maine,

uh, released an ad about Elon spending.

He usually talks about him being a

logger and being a man of the people,

but let's listen to this ad that he put

out this weekend.

>> And here's why he's spending $100

million across these states. because he

wants to have people that are totally

beholden to him and Donald Trump making

sure that we're getting tax cuts for

billionaires on the back of our health

care system, on the back of our

hospitals. That's what Elon Musk wants.

He doesn't care about us. Really doesn't

care about Susan. He cares about him.

So, I would say and to you, Elon, Maine

and really the whole United States

doesn't want your dirty money in our

politics. You know, you don't get to buy

the government that you want. This is

about all of us coming together and

fighting for the government that we

deserve and you're not in it.

>> Ah, you're not in it. Oh, I love

[clears throat] dirty politics. Um, Elon

Lost in Wisconsin who spent 25 million

there. I think this is very effective ad

and he also sounds like he's about to go

fell a tree at any moment.

>> The silver lining here is that it

appears that money is showing a a lesser

and lesser return on on electoral

politics and some of these packs. I

wonder if at some point if attaching

Musk money to a candidate begins to hurt

them like I don't know if you've seen

what going it's what's going on if I

were a candidate distinct of your values

I wouldn't take money from Apac right

now I think it has become such a toxic

brand Apac what do you

>> and billionaires have to

>> whether you agree with them or not

>> but I wonder if at some point I mean the

example I keep going back to Tomsty who

I thought was a reasonable candidate Tom

is not a bad person I don't care what

you think

>> I liked him My son liked him.

>> Yeah. I don't care what you think about

his politics. He's a He's a I think I

think it's hard to argue he's not a good

man with his heart in the right place,

cares about the environment, understands

business. He spent a quarter of a

billion dollars and he came in third

place. Um, and you know, it ended up

he'd hired influencers and they think

that that's some sort of controversy.

I'm like, welcome to politics.

>> That was stupid.

>> Yeah.

>> But I would I think I'm wondering how

how many of them with money are doing

the same thing. Anyways, it's Citizens

United. So broken record here. Okay. If

the problem isn't that people well the

problem is that people can spend money

on politics. The problem is we have so

much income inequality and so much

concentration of wealth which equates to

power in a capitalist society. Are we

comfortable?

He he could spend 15 billion and it

wouldn't mean anything to him. Are we

that comfortable? I mean we have our

billionaires. you have, you know, George

Soros or whoever on the left, but at

some point when you have someone who

could say if they get emotional or

pissed off or really high one night and

think, you know what, I think I'm going

to spend $10 billion,

are we comfortable with that? I'm not as

freaked out about this. The Economist

did a great article on this and it said

that money and politics is having less

impact than reported, which I think is

really interesting. What are your

thoughts?

>> It could be. I I I think it is. I'm just

curious what you think. I'm going to

[clears throat] let Scott talk more this

episode because I think this is actually

right. And is this an effective ad to

attack Elon? I think it is. I think it

worked in Wisconsin. I think the people

Wisconsin are not unlike the people of

Maine. I don't think they like it. He

also sort of just dismisses Susan. He

doesn't really care about Susan. She's

hardly matters here. He's just buying

his way into our government. And the two

things that I thought were effective

here were doesn't want your dirty money

in our politics, which I love. I thought

that was beautifully said. And then this

is about the government we deserve and

you're not in it. There was a little bit

of you're not from here, are you fella?

Like that kind of thing. Like I thought

it was quite effective in this state. I

think it probably is.

>> If you rob a bank, there's typically

within the money or there's a a a bomb

that goes off and sprays you with

indelible ink. I think these people are

trying to put a bomb of indelible ink

around certain types of money.

>> Yeah. And do you think it's effective?

This this particular message, Troy,

>> look what's happening with Apac in the

Michigan Democratic Senate primary. The

attack line against God, I'm I'm

blanking on her name.

>> Haley, the attack line is you've taken

Apac money.

>> Yeah. Yeah. It's been

>> I wonder if it's about to become you've

taken Musk money.

>> And that's what they're trying to do

here. They're trying to they're trying

to they're trying to nest inside of this

money from him

>> with a a a paintball bomb. And I

actually don't have to be, you know,

Alex votes in Michigan. I I know he

mentioned it to me. He's like, "What the

heck? Why is all this Apac money here?"

Um, and I have to say, you know, you

know, it's interesting because some

money works. Like Louie really liked

Tom. I don't know how I don't know

either of them voted but he is certainly

not averse to Aliade and Alex is more

conservative I would say than Louisie.

Louis is like DSA essentially. Um but um

uh but Louie was attracted to Tom Styer.

>> That's because it's your egg, right?

>> No, [laughter]

>> I still understand Tom Styer but that's

I mean I liked Tommy Styer but I don't

know I didn't like any of the choices in

California but but I'm saying it

depends. I think I would assume Louie

found out about Tom Styer from these

paid influencers. I I don't know. But

it's the a

>> I don't think you're giving him enough

credit. Maybe he just did the work on

his own.

>> He he did, but in in Michigan, a lot of

young people like my son do not like

this. And they're, you know, I know

they're trying to say they're

anti-Semitic for doing that. I just

don't think they like the like get your

money out of our politics. I think

that's the stronger thing. And in

Michigan, it happens to be Apac. In

other places, it's other in in Maine,

it's Elon Money. Well, again, another

woman who did just an amazing job and

was forcefully yet dignified was I

believe she's the editor of The

Economist. I'm

>> blanking Zany.

>> So impressive.

>> Yeah.

>> But she highlighted I thought the I

thought the the the puncturing moment,

the pop that that really like showed you

how just ridiculous it is. He's all over

British politics. Like I our new our our

new kind of export biggest export from

the US is political divisiveness. we've

decided to export that into other

countries. And she asked him and I

thought that she's like, "When's the

last time you were in England?"

>> years ago.

>> And he's like, "Oh, a few years ago."

And she's like, "You know what the [ __ ]

is going on here?" When people asked me

about the UK, I was caved with, "I don't

live in England. I live in Marleone. I'm

in such a bubble."

>> But I I think she was making the point

that it's not like covered with with

immigrants killing people. If you would

believe Elon Musk, you would think that

England has been taken over by Muslim

rape gangs. And he doesn't know what the

[ __ ] he's talking about. And anyways, my

my point is

he's the last person to be talking as if

he has his finger on the pulse of what's

actually happening in England. And also,

it's one thing to be pouring money into

Michigan as a US citizen. It's another

to be exporting political divisiveness

to another country.

>> I agree.

>> That's just like I I don't I don't you

know I I it's like quite frankly boss

it's none of your [ __ ] business.

>> Get your dirty money out of our pocket.

>> And I wonder I wonder well actually

England has much stronger campaign

finance laws. And also you know not that

it's helping. I think I'm on my fourth

prime minister since moving there four

years ago. I'm like who is it now? I'm

like I'm literally It's like when my dad

used to show when my dad after he left

my mom would show up with my new mommy.

I wouldn't get attached cuz there'd be

someone another lovely lady the next

week in the living room drinking

Lancer's wine with my dad.

>> Lancers but you're really going back

Scott. Anyway, Elon Money doesn't work.

Nice job, Troy. Um all right, let's go

on a quick break. We come back. Oh, my

favorite story. Scott,

>> Trump administration turns on each other

over the reflection.

>> By the way, there was controversy over

whether they could use the term master

even back then and whether she could

show her naval. And spoiler alert, Larry

Hagman had a reputation for being

exceptionally difficult on set because

he had creative differences. I love

that. It's like when the Go-Os broke up

over creative differences. I'm like,

that is so ridiculous.

>> Oh yeah, Larry Hangman. He although

honestly he became amazing in Dallas.

Come on, J.R. Huing. What an amazing

role. He that was turned from hero to

like total villain. Anyway,

>> hottest woman in the world. What was

that girl? Oh my god. Victoria

Principal. Another hot.

>> Oh my god. Okay. All right. We're all

went out with Lance Renel. Wide receiver

from the last

who got a misdemeanor public as you're

leaving. But reflecting pool, Carol was

right again.

>> I would have loved to seen those two go

at it. She was so hot.

>> And we'll be back.

>> So hot.

>> Goodbye.

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Scott, we're back with more news. The

Trump administration is now feuding with

itself over the Lincoln Memorial

Reflecting Pool. My favorite story of

the year. US Attorney Janine Piro is in

the hot seat after dropping the

vandalism case against former Olympian.

Uh she also called out the damage as a

result of a botched installation. She

had to tell the truth when it came to

court. As it turns out, this didn't sit

well with Trump who said he disagrees

100% with Janine Piro and noting that

there may have been a contractor

difficulty, but major damage was caused

by vandals of which there is zero proof.

And Interior Secretary Doug Bergam, who

is like the definition of a suckup, is

trying to stay in Trump's good graces,

saying he gave the US attorney expert

and eyewitness testimony to the damage

done by vandals and the vandals. Um,

what he this is crazy. This is Janine

was like, I'm not getting disbarred for

this ninkham poop. And um, and speaking

of push back, Marjorie Taylor Green

posted a photo over the weekend

alongside Tucker Carlson and Thomas

Massie and a few others writing, the

movement has begun. So, the anti-Trump

the anti- the anti- anti-ant

anti-Trumpers. I don't know. Whatever.

Anyway, I told you this reflecting pool

was gonna is indicative of other things.

>> Yeah, it's just such a distraction. I

wonder if if it's planned for them, but

Jannine Piro did her research and she

found that essentially every lawyer, I

mean, literally every lawyer that gets

near, whether it's Rudy Giuliani,

whether it's Michael Khan, any lawyer

that gets near uh Trump ends up getting

disbarred.

>> Yeah.

>> I mean, it's striking if you look at

like eight of the 10 last lawyers that

that were representing,

>> they get they end up getting disbarred

or fined or

>> trouble. Alina Alena Haba they all

>> and there's no loyalty there. There's no

You want to talk about in Vietnam they

used to take I think the the second you

know lieutenant or whatever it was the

platoon leader marks off your helmet

because that the Vietkong was given

strict instructions. This is the person

you take out first.

>> Yeah. Do you think she'll refile given

all the push back? I don't see she can

because the judge the judge in this case

said you better be very careful young

lady or old lady drunk old lady. Um they

uh she the judge was very explicit that

you will be in trouble if you keep going

because this is really bad and but then

you know the fact that Bergam or the

others they just when are they going to

give that I just I have no idea. This

guy had a relatively okay reputation but

him and Bessant to me are the real

shockers in terms of like how much of a

suckup they can compete being in this

situation. I think the guy who's

actually taken the biggest reputation

hit is Todd Blanch. Well, people people

who knew him at what is it the Southern

District really had a lot of respect for

him some is an outstanding lawyer and a

person of integrity.

>> Said that what happened to you?

>> I think Janine Pero is like you know I I

don't want to be disbarred. This guy's

going to be out in two and a quarter

years or whatever. Um you know I think I

think her own lawyers have said to her

be really careful here. This is there's

no evidence here.

>> You think she'll try to refile anyway?

>> I don't know. But the the sad part of

this is that the more time old king,

>> the more time we spend talking about a

reflecting pool, good or bad, the less

time we spend talking about bombs,

inflation, and exploding diarrhea.

>> I agree with you, Scott. But as I said,

this is indicative of shoddy work,

lying, cult. It's it's it's a little

it's much more important in terms of

what these people are doing. this is how

far they'll go to protect an adult old

man's ego which is which I think is and

it links to Iran like saying oh no we

better not do this or the stuff he was

posting all weekend was crazy like

they're willing to let crazy person who

has like I just think this is exactly a

distillation that's why I think it's

important because one it's incompetent

management they couldn't fix the

reflecting pool and then they did made

worse. Two, they then tried to blame an

American citizen, you know, of something

he didn't do. Like these weird

prosecutions are also this what what

they did to Renee Good, what they did to

everybody else, what they're doing to

immigrants. It's like they just jail

people and just to please him. And so

that's why it's important. It it's it's

it's it's a bigger trend of saying,

"Yes, sir. We think this is amazing."

And let me tell you, Doug Bergman, the

shame of this will not outlive you and I

will be around to remember it for all of

us. Same thing with Bessence. And you're

right, Todd Blanch. You're all like Liz

Cheney is the one who said this is long

after this guy is gone, the dishonor on

you will remain. And Janine Piro decided

to get out before

>> Anthony Scaramucci, I mean, he

summarized it correctly when he tries to

the the flame the By the way, I saw the

Odyssey this weekend. the

>> the flame, the sirens call of power and

proximity to the president. Everyone

believes they're going to be the one

that can navigate it and serve the

country while not being guilty. They

they all hear the siren call and they

think that they cannot be immune to it.

He is political Chernobyl who has gone

on to great things from his first

administration. Yeah, buddy.

>> And in in the latest episode of Where

Are They Now, I just want to go over

where Trump's lawyers are now. Roy Cohen

was disbarred. You know, he's dead now.

Michael Cohen disbarred, pleaded guilty

to tax campaign and false statements

crimes. Rudy Giuliani disbarred in New

York and DC, $150 million in defamation

damages. Alina Haba sanctioned $1

million for frivolous litigation. Boris

Epstein pending a criminal charges in

fake electoral case. John Eastman

disbarred in California and subpoenaed

in DC. Arizona criminal case pending.

Kenneth Chzbro disparard in New York

Wisconsin case pending. I I mean

literally it's second lieutenant in

Vietnam to be a lawyer for this guy.

>> Listen, the old man's losing it, guys.

You better get on the Janine Piro

Express out of town, you know, and you

know, Green and Tucker Carlson and

Massie are going to take advants,

as long as they're done correctly, um

it's done, guys. It's done. You better

get off this [ __ ] train. If if Judge

Winebox is getting off, you need to exit

as fast as possible.

>> Yeah. Kenneth Kenneth Cheesebro, am I

saying his name? Chesbro. Cheese Bro, I

think it is.

>> Um, he was the attorney who was

basically the architect of the fake

elections narrative. By the way, he was

just disbarred in the state of New York.

I mean, wake up, folks. He's Chernobyl.

You stick around this guy long enough,

you're getting leukemia.

>> Anyway, uh, one more quick break. will

be back for wins and fails and then

Scott departs the scene.

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>> Okay, Scott, let's hear some wins and

fails. Why don't I go first and very

quickly? Okay, my win is um Columbia

University School of Journalism, which I

went to and as an alumni, hired uh

Sharon Alonscy and Scott P as

journalists and residents this year and

I couldn't be more happy. I I never go

when they asked me to speak, but now

>> God, you're so white.

>> I am white, but I love

>> I think that's the whitest thing we've

ever said on this podcast and we've said

some pretty translucent things.

>> In any case, I'm very happy they did

that. Congratulations. They're all Let

me tell you, I've been in touch with a

lot of these people. They're all working

on some really great things. The New

York Post got it wrong about Bill Owens

this week, but they're all kind of cool

things and a little bit invigorated like

you know and I was with Don Lemon on

Leml this week and he's invigorated. I

was on um Aston H. Hearnden's show uh

America actually which I loved and I got

to say invigorated. All these people

feel invigorated. So it's not always a

bad thing. It's bad for 60 minutes but

it's really good for you and your souls.

You'll have a great time in out here in

the wilderness. might fail is there's a

story in the New York Times about um

Paul Weiss the the law firm and the the

downfall of how they acquies to Trump

largely because of a single partner who

seems like an [ __ ] um is and sort of

the ruining of another guy who had been

a you know a beacon of civil rights um

proono work etc uh is really devastating

just how quickly speaking of people

giving in and being you know ruined by

the Trump people Um this this was a

really sad story. These are the people

that should defend us. This was a firm

that was well known for defending people

like people who marginalized people all

manner of things. Just very a very

legendary firm who which just

essentially took the money and and

started treating like behaving in a way

that was so grabby. You're so rich you

lawyers. It's really it was a grotesque.

I recommend you read it. It's a long

read. Um, and it was just it was really

um it was really upsetting to read, I

have to say. Um, and I'll just say one

more thing. FIFA President Giani

Infantino has scrapped his proposal to

sell stakes in the World Cup after

backlash. And he there looks like he may

be in trouble. There's many more

reports. I think several people who

don't usually speak out has said it's he

should leave. Um, but we know someone

who predicted this. Let's hear a clip

from last week. My prediction is that

this ridiculous notion that

uh one of the most corrupt organizations

is going to get financing from a crime

family, the Trump family, to take FIFA

private and or turn it into a public

company.

This won't happen.

>> There you go, Scott. All right. All

yours.

>> You stole some of my thunder. Like I

have I could position one as a fail, but

I'll position both as a win. um these

global athletic

oversightes, whether it's the IOC, uh

FIFA,

or even I would argue the NC2A that was

comfortable with white guys in their 50s

making millions of dollars and claiming

that the non-white people on the

hardwood were not allowed to make money

because of the purity of the sport.

Yeah, there's just so much these

organizations benefit so much from the

goodwill and the fact especially the

international organizations operate in

this netherland. John Infantino is so

corrupt. FIFA is so corrupt

and the fact that it really does it's

just this sport really does bring people

together and at some point they're just

going to do you know how many people

really talented

um I mean take a guy who's lost an ele

take a guy like Mitt Romney

>> damn Mitt Romney would be good

>> find just an amazing person whose

integrity is unimpeachable

>> Scott Galloway Right.

>> Uh I I think I'm I'm I

>> You're impeachable. Yeah,

>> I'm impeachable according at least

according to Twitter this weekend. I've

heard

>> both of us are impeachable.

>> But my point is find somebody. There are

so many people who have incredible

integrity, character, understand

sponsorships, understand business, who

absolutely adore this game and would

take this job for a dollar and bring

real and say, "Okay, what's the job not

only of the tournament, but how do we

get more young people playing sports?

How do we uh raise the v visibility of

emerging nations? How do we bring people

together in between the World Cups and

make nations feel better about one

another? How do we just have how do I

just write in my final act a love letter

to the sport? Instead, we have these

corrupt individuals that see it as a

corpus for their own enrichment.

>> Yeah, he should just leave and go hang

out with rich people. That's my view. I

am really pleased that the public and

their love of the game just threw up all

over this guy and his idea to get the

Kushners to finance taking it private

and trying to figure out a way to

monetize what is what is the UN that's

actually working and that is football.

It's actually bringing people together.

>> You're right. This was a great

prediction. So, is he out out? Do you

think he's out? You did say you thought

he wouldn't last. these governing bodies

are so they have

like what court oversees it and so it's

it's difficult and in addition these

guys these guys grease everybody and pay

them off. They have friends everywhere

because they they give money in the form

of quote unquote development revenues to

I mean they have they're not dumb. They

they've they've greased a lot of palms.

They're

>> I think your first prediction is

correct. I think he's

>> Oh, really? Uh, I hope so. Again, it's

the same problem we have with Trump. We

need ideas and a vision for for FIFA,

not just [ __ ] posting the incumbent.

>> Yep. That's a fair point that we need.

>> Let's find Let's find someone

unimpeachable who would raise their hand

and say, "You know what? I I would I

would like to do this." Like,

>> Cuban,

>> I think he'd be great. I think I've I've

always been a fan of Tony Blair. He

evokes a gag reflection.

>> A lot of hanging on him. Cuban.

>> Yeah, fair enough. that there's got to

be somebody out there that people just

have a ton of goodwill around who loves

the game and says

>> what I'm going to bring to the game is

the following. I'm going to bring

goodwill and unimpeachable integrity.

I'm going to be I'm going to be [ __ ]

Mormon. I'm going to be literally I'm

thinking about Mitt Romney again. I I I

may get it wrong, but I will never

deceive you or enrich myself.

>> I'd still take Scott Galloway anyway.

Scott, that's a really good one. Do you

have any other

>> I don't know enough about the game. Can

I can I ask you one question? I'm gonna

prompt you. Are you seeing all the I'm

so sad you said not a word about it, but

wicker all the the the the story of uh

the basket that [ __ ] a woman. Have you

noticed this going all over the

internet? I'm surprised you haven't

because there was all these penis jokes

about Wicker.

>> Jesus Christ, I feel so out of it. I I

didn't find out that that that failed

mayoral candidates were [ __ ] posting me

until you forwarded. When when I I'm I'm

not exaggerating. When I go into August,

I try to put my phone away. I try not to

go on social media. I try not to read

the news because I find by the time I

get to August, I'm a nervous wreck. All

right. When you come back, I want wicker

jokes. And there's one that say, "I

wonder if JD Vance is going to see

Wicker." Um, there's a lot of very funny

funny jokes. The Wicker trailers called

uh someone called the Wicker trailer

Porninocio. And all I can say is I

guarantee you that was the original name

of the script and film. Anyway, looks

great.

>> I didn't see that. Yeah, I haven't seen

that. I did see the Odyssey, though.

>> And

>> in a word,

>> epic.

>> Epic.

>> Absolutely epic.

>> And I I just The thing that really

struck me about it was I think it could

have been I really respect

filmmakers and directors and studios

that greenlight something that has so

much downside risk cuz it's like a scene

with a cyclops. It could have so easily

been cheesy, CGI, and you believe

there's a Cyclops.

>> You do. Yeah.

>> And every scene that you'd heard about,

there was just a certain grit and

rawness. I thought the performances were

outstanding across the board. I want to

go to an island where I get high and

[ __ ] a hot model and forget how to get

home. I'm like, what a shocker. I love

like I've forgotten how to get home so I

have to hang out with Charlie Cerrone

and get high every day. But I've

forgotten how to get back to my wife. I

mean

>> you you'd still be on that island.

>> Oh my god. You would never island. You

would be like

>> Charlies I'm coming.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. [ __ ] hilarious. The

guy he's literally do in aa doing X

[ __ ] the hottest woman and he's

forgotten how to get home to Liverpool

in his life.

>> Yeah. Anyways,

>> very nice. [snorts] Very nice. I'm glad

you All right, we have to move on.

>> My win.

>> Yeah.

>> Uh the outstanding

uh journalism and forceful yet dignified

uh performance this weekend of Dana

Bash, uh Margaret Brennan and last week

uh uh Caitlyn Collins. I just think

these I think these individuals define

the term professional.

>> Yep. Caitlyn will be here to replace

you.

>> There you go. That's Talk about an

upgrade. Mhm.

>> But I I the clips I saw this weekend. I

used to watch Meet the Press and Face

the Nation, the whole show. Now I'm part

of the Pepsi generation. I just watched

the clips. I thought I admire that they

are so calm and just right on the spot.

Push back thoughtfully. You actually do

this quite well.

>> Thank you.

>> And uh Jess Tarlo does this quite well.

>> Yeah, she does.

>> But I was so impressed.

>> What do we all have in common, Scott?

Just

>> Well, the future is female. care. The

future [laughter] is female.

>> I needed you to say that before you

>> The future is female. No, we're

>> Yeah. No, we're

>> That's a good win. That's a perfect

>> We're replaceable. We're just here We're

just here to build data centers and then

we're totally then we have no use.

>> No use. No use. Although lesbian

mechanics can do it anyway. And

construction workers. Anyways, my my win

is my wins, multiple wins are throwing

up on uh Johnny Anfontino and his

ridiculous monetization of the world's,

you know, the the beautiful game. I

thought the Odyssey was spectacular and

I went into it with high expectations

cuz Christopher Nolan is my favorite

director.

>> There you go. Oh my goodness. As you

say, there you go, Scott.

>> There you go.

>> Anyway, I'm glad you liked it. Very

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Swisser. I'm speaking with Rosie

O'Donnell. She's staging her onewoman

show in New York right now. And then

she's headed to LA to guest host Jimmy

Kimmel later this month. Let's listen to

her explain how she plans to deal with

Trump. I plan on doing what Jimmy Kimmel

has done so beautifully, which is giving

it to him in a comedic, honest, truthful

way. And I will do that as as big as I

can. Now, the song that I sang in my

show, if he only had a brain, I wanted

to do that on Kimmel, but they just told

me I can't.

>> Oh,

>> that they couldn't get permission for

the parody because it's political

content. And I was like, "Well, that is

absurd to me because we used to do

parodies every day on my show."

>> Wait, I don't understand.

>> Well, I've been told I'm not allowed to

do that now. I don't know. It's not a

bit of it here.

>> Yes. His approval rate is 30. His

diaper's always dirty. I think the guy's

insane.

[laughter]

>> You're so happy.

>> She's It was really good. Go watch her

show. It's terrific. Um, and Scott, as I

said, this is our last show together

before Scotfree August gets underway.

The saddest time of the year for me,

obviously.

>> Yeah, it's tough. I know.

>> You might be wondering about your

whereabouts over the next month. So,

we're getting ahead of things by

releasing a proof of life photo right

now.

>> Oh my gosh.

>> I am Elaine Chow.

>> You are of course our friend

>> and the late Mitch McConnell. The late

possibly late Mitch McConnell.

[laughter]

>> There's a lot of good We shouldn't

laugh.

>> Social media does have its redeeming

power. social. We shouldn't laugh, but

and yet we will. Okay, that is the show.

Thanks for listening to Pivot. Make sure

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channel. I'll be back on Friday with

special guest co-host Hillary Clinton.

Scott, enjoy your time away. I miss you

every year. And please call me whenever

you need to and just pop in. Just just

text me at all. And I I'm excited for

you to return.

>> I need you to keep me on for informed on

how much people hate me across social

media.

>> I know, but that Spencer Pratt thing was

ridiculous. And so, you know, everyone

on Twitter, go [ __ ] yourselves. Scott

rocks.

>> Everyone on Twitter, there you go. All

right. All right. Enough of that.