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>> What's up, dog?

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>> Joe.

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>> Good to see you, my friend.

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>> Same here, man.

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>> What's crackle?

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>> Life is good. Happy to be in Austin,

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Texas.

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Tony tonight?

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>> I'll show up at Kill Tony tonight.

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>> Of course. My guy. So happy for him.

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>> Yeah, he's killing it.

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>> He always uh talks about us as his early

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uh supporters.

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>> Oh yeah, for sure.

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>> I love that guy.

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>> He's the best. I mean, that show is on

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fire. It's a [ __ ] runaway train right

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now.

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>> Everywhere I go, Kill Tony. Kill Tony.

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Kill Tony. Love you on Kill Tony.

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>> It's such a fun show, you know. What a

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great idea. Kind of amazing. Nobody

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thought it up.

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and his roasts and his personality and

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his friends and his built a community.

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It's kind of amazing.

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>> Oh, it's incredible. He's the new Johnny

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Carson. I mean, think about how many

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like Adam Ray is killing it. Selling out

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giant theaters. All these guys that, you

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know, came through that show are [ __ ]

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destroying now.

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>> This is our tribe, Joe.

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>> I know.

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>> I love it.

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>> It's amazing. It's a good time for

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comedy.

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>> Did I hear that you have a German

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Shepherd?

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>> No. No. I have a golden retriever and I

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have a a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel.

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>> Oh, okay.

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>> Little tiny fella.

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>> Somebody told me something different.

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No, I love German shepherds, but I don't

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>> I have a German Shepherd.

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>> They're the best.

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>> You have to exercise the [ __ ] out of

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them, though.

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>> They need work.

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>> She loves to run around and dig and

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climb and adventures.

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>> They need tasks. They're not like my

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golden. He's just cool just chilling,

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laying on his back, getting his belly

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rubbed.

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>> Oh, I follow him on Instagram, don't

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worry.

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>> He's the best.

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>> I look for my mornings with him.

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>> I mean, they're a very lowmaintenance

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dog and he he's trained. He he you could

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train him very easily, but as far as

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like like a guard dog and that kind of

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useless.

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>> My dog

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my dog can like sit, stay, and run

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around frantically. I'll be like run

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around frantically and she'll just run

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around.

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>> Well, they have so much energy. Those

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dogs are just designed to work.

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>> I put her to work for two months this

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summer on Broadway. She came out at the

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end of my show and howled with me in the

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audience.

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>> She can howl on Q.

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>> She We taught her. I had the same

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trainer that did the Sandy from the show

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Annie, like from when I was a kid, Bill

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Baloney, and he's like, I could teach

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her. She's like a wild rescue German

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Shepherd from the desert. And there she

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was like came out, jumped on a couch,

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hit her mark, turned to the audience,

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and we like sang.

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>> Oh, that's awesome.

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>> She had her own dressing room.

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Nipy, her name's Nipy.

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And you know, and then when the job was,

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you know, when the run was over, she was

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like, "No more work. Now I need

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something else to do."

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>> Yeah. They need things to do. Like

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people that just have them and have them

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in an apartment and don't go anywhere.

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Like that's a crazy thing to do to a dog

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like that.

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>> Yeah.

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>> A look at her.

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>> Oh my god. Wow.

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>> Look how sweet.

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>> So she's a rescue dog.

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>> She is.

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>> Where'd you find her?

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>> They found her in a in a in a bummy uh

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breeder in Reno. Yeah. Yeah.

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>> During the pandemic, I had an old dog. I

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had an old senior dog that my ex found

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on the street and we took care of her

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the beginning of the pandemic and and uh

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the ex left the dog. So, it's just me

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and this old beat up street dog for a

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few months and the vet was like, I got

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another a puppy German shepherd. And so,

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>> she was a puppy.

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>> This one was. Yeah.

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>> Oh, that's great.

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>> So, now I was like 5 years ago already.

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So, she's my bestie and and and

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>> and we do everything. I mean, I just

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love her to pieces. Like, I can't even

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getting on the plane to come here

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yesterday, was a part of me was like,

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should I bring her let her run around

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the four seas for a couple days and

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whatever. But

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>> yeah, it's hard leaving them. It's It's

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like I have a kid. They look She looks

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at me looking for the buzzwords.

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>> Are we going? Are we staying? Are we

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eating?

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>> I know. They get separation anxiety big

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time and they get very attached to one

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person,

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>> right? Yeah, like you're her daddy.

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>> Oh, she's just so sweet. She just she'll

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lay in bed, wait. She never wakes me.

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Rolls over, arms up, ready to get she

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can't start the day without a full belly

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rub. Like I almost like hold her legs

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and play her like a guitar

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and she just, you know, tongues out just

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complete euphoria. Once a week I take

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all her collars off and just rub the

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neck and just her eyes start watering

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and

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>> that's so cute. highly re I never was

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into dogs. I'm slightly allergic. My

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sister got snapped on by a Doberman when

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we were little. So I was always a little

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afraid and then it was just kind of

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forced on me during the pandemic is all

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these dogs needed homes. So now here I

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am. I'm a freaking doggy daddy.

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>> Oh, I love dogs. I've always had dogs. I

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will never not have dogs. I love them. I

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love them.

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>> It's they're they're just these amazing

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creatures that just love the [ __ ] out of

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you. And especially if you train them

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from the time they're puppies and you

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give them nothing but love. Yeah. Like

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they're so connected to you. And then

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you know it's just awesome. You wake up

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in the morning and it's always positive.

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It's always hello. Hello. I wake up with

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Marshall and he starts whining and

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whimpering and he like I I do this thing

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in the morning. I go, "Good morning,

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sir. Good morning, sir."

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He's wagging his tail and he's rolling

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around on his back and I'm rubbing his

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belly and he's giving me kisses. Uh,

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>> he he loves it. He loves He gets so

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excited to see me in the morning. It's

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like his his ritual. He knows the

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ritual's coming. He's going to get all

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this love.

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>> Does he sleep in your room?

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>> No. No. My wife is a little bit

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allergic, so he sleeps outside the room,

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>> right?

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>> But, uh, he is he's just a giant love

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sponge. That's what he is. It's like he

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loves everybody. Everybody who comes in

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the house, like he meet you for the

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first time, he's like, "I can't believe

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you're here." He's just so excited to

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meet everybody. My dog's checks

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everybody. She's got to like check them

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out. German Shepherd, you know, and if

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somebody has a chemical imbalances are a

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little off,

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>> she lets me know.

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>> Oh, yeah. You got screw ball friends.

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>> Yeah. Well, every now and then, you

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know, comics will be off their meds and

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they'll come over and be like, I used to

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know that person. I don't know that

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person anymore. The dog just like alerts

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me.

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>> Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. They're

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very watchful. You know, they're they're

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shepherds. They're protecting you.

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They're protecting their their daddy.

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>> She's funny. on the plane. Like I've

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only flown with her twice, but one, you

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know, once to New York and then once

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back after we were done on Broadway and

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she's like it was nine months later. She

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literally knew how to walk on the plane,

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where to go, where her seat was, like

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remembers everything like a person.

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>> They're very smart dogs. Very smart

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dogs. It's one of the reasons why they

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need so much to exercise. Like the

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dumbest dogs can just lay around and do

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nothing. Yeah.

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>> But really smart dogs, they need a lot

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of activity. Especially shepherds, cuz

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they're working dogs. If I leave her

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alone too long, she'll dig up the

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backyard. She needs something to do.

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>> Yeah. They get crazy. They're like an

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athlete.

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>> Yeah.

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>> You know, they just they need work. They

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need to go.

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>> And they don't need a lot of food. They

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don't need a lot. She's She's like,

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>> "What do you feed her?"

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>> You know, I used to overfeed her and

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give her a lot of table scraps and

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spoiler. And then I learned more

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recently that if I keep her to like a

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cup and a half of kibble a day that the

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vet recommended,

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>> you should get her on raw food. Raw food

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or fresh food?

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>> Oh, interesting.

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>> Yeah. I I used to feed my dogs kibble,

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too. I had one dog that got cancer, and

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I read about all these dogs getting

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cancer, and you know, they get fat so

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easy when you give them kibble. And it's

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just because that stuff can sit on a

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shelf forever. It's like, you wouldn't

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eat it. Why are they eating it?

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>> It's not healthy for them.

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>> Sometimes I put a little turkey in the

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>> turkeyy's great. Real food is great.

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Real real food for your dog is the way

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to go. I feed my dog farmer's dog. It's

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uh it comes frozen. It has to be frozen,

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right? And the way they attack it versus

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the way they attack Kibble. Like

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Kibble's like, "Okay, they're eating. No

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big deal." Yeah. But they just can't

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wait to eat this stuff. Like they get

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excited. Like the little guy, the little

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Charlie, he literally leaps up in the

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air trying to get to the counter where

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when I'm putting the food in his bowl,

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he gets nuts. They love it.

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>> It's real food. It's human grade food

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for dogs. Check that out.

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>> Oh yeah. It comes frozen. And also they

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give it to you the right portions for

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your dog so you don't have to think

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about it. Like you put in your dog's

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weight, what breed your dog is

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>> and you know whether your dog's

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overweight or not, and they they measure

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it out calorie wise, so it's specific to

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your dog.

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>> My dog's weight is good, but I got to

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get her to stop smoking. She's just got

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>> You know what? It's funny. She used to

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really hate when I light up a joint and

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she'd when she was little, she'd run in

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the other room, but now she's just like,

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"Oh, that's daddy."

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>> Well, she'd probably get a little

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paranoid. I used to have a pit bull that

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she would get paranoid that she was in

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the room when we got high and I was

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realizing, "Oh, this poor dog. She's

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getting high, too." She was a rescue

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dog, too. I found her. She was covered

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in mange. It was so sad.

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>> She was eating out of garbage cans.

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>> That's heartbreaking.

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>> Yeah. A friend of mine found her and uh

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they took her in for and then they

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called me and they said, "Do you want

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another dog?" I had one dog already. I

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said, "Absolutely." And as soon as I saw

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her, I was like, "Oh,

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>> yeah. Horrible."

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>> It was so horrible. She was covered in

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mine. She had little scabs on her and

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everything. It all went away within like

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two months of of food. But that dog,

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because of living on the street, she

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could never get enough food. She was

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always like raiding garbage cans and

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stuff. Like you'd have to lock up the

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garbage can, strap it down with a bungee

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cord.

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>> She would tip them over and she was

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never full. Even though she would like

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get fat, she would she was never full

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>> just in case.

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>> It was just, you know, she was starving

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when I when I found her.

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>> The I had the old dog first. And then

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the young German Shepherd. So the old

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one had all these street habits like

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that. And she taught him to the young

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dog. Like the young dog

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>> walks down the stairs as if she has a

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broken back hip.

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>> Oh no.

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>> And she learned how to get in the car

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from an old dog. So two legs. She She

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could leap right in. She's a kid. But

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she still goes two two paws up and I

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have to pick her up.

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>> Yeah. That's how Marshall does it.

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>> Overprotective like the old dog.

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>> Yeah, Marshall. I think he probably

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could jump in my car, but it's like he

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knows I'll just lift him up because I've

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done it since it was a puppy. So, we do

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this little little thing. I go, "You

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ready?" He puts his paws out. I go,

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"One, two, three." It's always one, two,

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three, up. So, he gets ready.

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>> Do they h do they talk to you? My dog

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howls with me in the morning.

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>> No, Marshall only talks when he wants to

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come inside. Like, if he's outside,

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he'll just bark once at the door just to

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let you know.

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>> He's really good. He's the best dog.

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>> What does his bark sound like?

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let me in. It's like, hey, I'm out here.

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Come on. You know, he's out till he's

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not, you know, he's out till he's bored

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and then he just lets you know.

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>> It's not annoying.

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>> The old dog, if I had to put her like if

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like a guy came over to work on the

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house or something, I had to put her

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like in a bedroom or a bathroom, she she

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was she was, you know, big big dog. She

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would gnaw on the handles. Oh,

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>> so I have a house full of like chrome

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uh door handles that all have like bite

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marks in it. Like the the bite is

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amazing.

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>> Yeah. You got to give them things to

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chew on all the time, you know? There's

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chew toys all over my house everywhere.

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My dog has Marshall has like a big box

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filled with toys.

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>> Yeah.

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>> And it's like And he just goes in and

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picks one out.

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>> Yeah. Randomly depends who it is.

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>> I go, "What are you going to get? Which

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toy?" And he's like looking around.

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Picks one out. And then him and the

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little dog that play tug of war. It's

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adorable.

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>> They get a totally Oh my god,

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>> you knew they'd get along before you got

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the dog.

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>> He's the easiest dog to get along with.

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He gets along with everything and

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everybody. Jaime's dog Jamie's got a

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psycho dog. Jaime's got this little

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French bulldog that's like a little a

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little meat missile.

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>> Yeah,

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>> he's a nut.

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>> He's great. He's great. He's awesome.

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>> Oh yeah, he's nuts.

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>> He's just He's three almost three. Two

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and a half.

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>> He's a little psycho. He's He's jacked.

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He's super jacked. He's like this little

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French bulldog. just [ __ ] jet.

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>> And him and Marshall just play insane.

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They ins It's insane. Like Carl throws

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himself through the air at Marshall cuz

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he knows that Marshall's like super

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gentle and they just play back and

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forth. But it's adorable.

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>> If a dog is small enough, like a little

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Chihuahua type dog, they can put their

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head inside. My dog will just open her

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mouth and let another dog just roll her

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head inside her mouth.

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>> No instincts.

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>> Yeah. It's crazy. Just wants it to play.

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It's just nuts that they those used to

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be wolves. They've turned wolves into

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these little tiny things you could carry

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around.

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>> I mean, in a thousand years, they'll be

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Are they getting smarter the way humans

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are evolving? I wonder.

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>> That's a good question. I wonder. I

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mean, I think there would have to be a

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reason for them to get smarter. You

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know, some dogs are like the dogs that

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are trained like a Belgian Malamoa.

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Those are really smart dogs. You know,

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those are dog military dogs. Yeah. Th

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those dogs you cannot just leave that

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dog alone. Like it's like a shepherd

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times 10. Yeah.

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>> They look like shepherds sort of, but

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they those dogs they're so intelligent.

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>> Yeah.

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>> You know, they they are constantly

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scanning everything and looking for

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everything. They know when you're weird.

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They know everything,

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>> right?

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>> Yeah. So those dogs have to be smart

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because they have jobs, you know? They

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use them like those are the dogs they s

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on like

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>> Osama bin Laden's crew, you know? They

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open the door and they breach dogs run

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in. Incredible.

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>> Yeah,

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>> my dog's central whim compared to all

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that.

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>> So's mine.

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>> She just wants to play.

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>> Yeah, these are the only dogs that Well,

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I've had a couple dogs before. Like I

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had a a dog that was a Sheu enu mix and

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he was kind of a [ __ ] Um but and I had

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a a mastiff before that, but mostly I've

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had like big guard dogs,

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>> right?

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>> You know, this these are the dogs of

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first dogs I've had that are they're not

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guarding [ __ ]

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>> Marshall's not guarding.

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>> They guard your emotions, buddy.

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your emotions.

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>> They're just sweet.

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>> They're just awesome to have. It's like

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you just have love around you all the

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time and they're never in a bad mood.

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There's never a day where he's never had

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a bad day in his life. Every day is a

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great day. Every day he's happy.

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>> Even if you're not there.

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>> Well, he gets sad if I'm not there for

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sure. But like I pull out the ball. It's

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always the same thing. It's never like

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one day I'm like maybe he's going to get

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bored of this [ __ ] ball. Nope. I pull

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out that ball. Oh. Oh, the ball. The

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ball's out. Let's go.

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>> Bouncing around, wagging his tail,

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jumping up. I got a ball. It's got like

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the stick. Like it's like a long curved

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stick, so he could throw the ball

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further.

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>> And you know, he just starts leaping up

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towards the stick.

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>> He gets so pumped. I'm like, "One day

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he's going to get bored of this." Nope.

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He's 9 years old. He's never getting

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bored of it.

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>> When I come up the stairs, if she sees

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that I have my sneakers on, she starts

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stretching like an Olympian.

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>> Let's go. Time to go. Yeah, dogs are

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awesome. People that don't have them, I

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feel bad for them. Like you're missing a

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lot of love in your life. Especially

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like people that live alone, you know?

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It's like you always have a friend. You

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always have someone you I talk to my

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dog. Like I have conversations with him.

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>> Yeah. Yeah.

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>> You know,

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>> and that does does Marshall look you in

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the eyes when you're talking.

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>> Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

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>> It's a real friend.

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>> Oh, he's he's like the most loving

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creature I've ever encountered.

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>> Do you tell the dog stuff you wouldn't

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tell your family or your friends?

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>> No. Sometimes I'm like, "Hey, Nipy, man,

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I probably shouldn't have said that to

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you." She She has emotional and like she

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knows when I'm happy, sad, nervous,

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sick.

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>> Mostly it's baby talk. Mostly he's like,

15:39

"My buddy."

15:41

>> Yeah.

15:42

>> Who's my but He watches TV with me. He

15:44

climbs up on the couch and sits on my

15:45

lap. He puts his head on my lap.

15:47

>> The best.

15:48

>> Yeah. And when there's animals on TV, he

15:49

parks his head up.

15:50

>> Yeah.

15:51

>> You know, cuz it's a big TV. And so he's

15:53

like, "What the [ __ ] is that? Is that

15:54

real?" He has to What what when when

15:57

Nipy first came out from the desert, she

16:00

was, you know, like six,

16:01

seven-month-old, you know, puppy, but

16:03

still a sizable dog, a German Shepherd

16:05

at 6 months, is already like a dog. And

16:08

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16:11

her deathbed, but wise, street wise.

16:15

She was on the floor and the puppy was

16:17

up on my bed. It was her first night in

16:20

a home. And I put on TV. I put on um

16:24

House of Cards and it was this daunting

16:27

kind of scary music and the dogs just

16:30

watching and it's like a shadowy figure.

16:32

It was Kevin Spacy coming down the hall,

16:34

his character coming down the hall and

16:36

as this like man was revealed full

16:39

screen on a big screen, Nipy did a

16:42

backflip, fell off the bed and ran and

16:44

hid in the closet.

16:47

And the old dog Nata was like, "Oh boy."

16:50

She had to like pull herself up at her

16:51

bad legs and and and go in the closet

16:54

and tell her to come back out.

16:55

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18:08

>> House of Cards. What a [ __ ] show that

18:09

was. Oh, what a [ __ ] show. They never

18:11

should have done that last season. Once

18:14

Kevin Spacy got cancelled, they should

18:15

have just canceled.

18:16

>> It was done

18:17

>> or you know, not

18:19

>> right.

18:20

>> Such a good [ __ ] show.

18:21

>> That was a great show.

18:22

>> It's crazy. I saw him. He was in Israel

18:27

doing some weird thing where he was like

18:29

doing like a song and dance routine in a

18:32

small club recently. Like he's been kind

18:35

of reduced to doing that for money.

18:38

Is that reduced or is that part of the

18:40

comeback?

18:42

>> You got to start.

18:43

>> I don't know. I mean, it's something. I

18:45

mean, I guess he's just making money,

18:48

you know? He's completely bankrupt. He

18:50

lost everything.

18:51

>> Mhm.

18:51

>> It's crazy.

18:53

>> Show business. It's

18:54

>> Well, it's not just show business,

18:56

right? It's uh it's also what did you

18:58

do? You know, what did you get caught

19:00

for? He got, you know, he was old school

19:03

dick grabber. All those old school guys.

19:06

No one really likes that getting their

19:08

dick grabbed like that.

19:09

>> Some gay guys do. I think I think what

19:12

he did probably worked on some guys. You

19:16

know what I'm saying,

19:16

>> right?

19:17

>> Like gay guys have a whole different way

19:19

of interacting with each other that we

19:22

don't have. But I think with Spacy, it

19:25

was like some of those fellas were

19:27

young.

19:28

>> And that's the problem.

19:30

>> Power. It's power. It's like in the gay

19:34

community, there's a lot of guys that

19:35

think it's okay for young gay guys who

19:38

are underage

19:40

to uh hook up with older gay guys. It's

19:44

a That's like Milo Yiannopoulos.

19:47

Remember him? He actually talked about

19:48

that on my show. He was talking about

19:50

when he was 14, he hooked up with this

19:53

this older guy and he's like, "Trust me,

19:55

I was the predator." He's like saying

19:57

that he was going after the guy. I was

19:59

like, "All right." But it's different in

20:02

their eyes. I mean, I'm just speaking

20:04

for gay guys that I've talked to. It's

20:06

different in their eyes than, you know,

20:08

an adult male and a young female,

20:11

>> right?

20:11

>> You know, but Kevin Spacy's a [ __ ]

20:14

unbelievable actor. That [ __ ] House

20:16

of Cards was so good. It was so good.

20:20

Such a good show. I'm glad it's still

20:23

out there, you know, because there's a

20:24

lot of stuff.

20:25

>> So good. It made me miss and rewatch

20:27

West Wing. That's how good it was. M I

20:29

haven't I never watched that. I I think

20:32

I maybe watched one or two episodes.

20:33

>> It's like an idealistic version of what

20:35

politics

20:36

could be, I guess.

20:37

>> Right. Martin Sheen is like the

20:39

president we wish we had like a really

20:42

>> that's a long time ago, but he's also

20:44

controversial. He's hiding a medical

20:46

thing. It like got way ahead of a lot of

20:48

the modern day stories.

20:50

>> Well, like Biden.

20:51

>> Yeah. Yeah. And uh his wife's a doctor,

20:55

so she's helping him.

20:58

Well, we always have these idealistic

21:00

ideas of who we want to be our leader.

21:02

And the thing about the Kevin Spy

21:04

character was like that's probably more

21:07

realistic. Like that guy is more

21:10

realistic. Like,

21:12

>> well, as we get older, we understand you

21:14

got to be cutthroat to make it. There's

21:16

got to be a certain killer instinct in a

21:19

president.

21:19

>> You're also most likely deeply

21:21

compromised by the time you get into

21:23

office,

21:24

>> which is the only way you navigate those

21:26

worlds. Like everybody's compromised.

21:27

Everybody's gone to that Eyes Wide Shut

21:29

party,

21:30

>> right?

21:32

>> I couldn't get in, just for the record.

21:34

>> Yeah, me neither.

21:36

>> Uh,

21:37

>> yeah. I don't I don't want to get in.

21:39

>> I know. That's a good thing. A dog can

21:41

kind of save your career cuz like you

21:42

get invited to some wild sex party. You

21:44

be like, I got my dog's been waiting for

21:46

me for 5 hours. Sorry, I I can't go.

21:48

>> Yeah. Meanwhile, it's better to just

21:50

hang out with your dog. You'll have a

21:51

better time and you won't feel gross in

21:53

the morning, I guess. But I think a lot

21:55

of those people are sociopaths. They

21:56

probably don't even feel gross ever.

21:58

>> I was out all weekend for the Fanatics

22:00

football stuff with Travis Scott's DJing

22:03

till 3:00 in the morning.

22:04

>> What is the Fanatics football stuff?

22:06

>> They had a flag football tournament in

22:07

LA. It was supposed to be in in Riott

22:09

and they had to move it to LA. Tom Brady

22:11

and and uh and the Fanatics. Uh

22:15

>> what's the Fanatics?

22:16

>> It's like um I guess it's a branding

22:18

company. They do all the jerseys. They

22:20

do all the

22:21

>> Oh. Um, Michael Rubin and Michael

22:24

Ratner, two friends of mine, did this

22:26

flag football game and I was just

22:29

partying. I just took the weekend off

22:30

and I'm like seeing all the football

22:32

players and and it was just so much fun.

22:35

And then just as the party's really

22:38

getting hot, I'm like, I miss my dog.

22:40

I'm going home.

22:42

>> Yeah. There's always this thing in the

22:43

back of your head like, I got to get

22:44

home. He's been home alone for 5 hours.

22:47

He's been home alone for six hours. I'm

22:49

thinking about him. He has to pee. He's

22:51

a good boy. He's not going to pee in the

22:52

house, but he's probably holding it in

22:54

upset.

22:56

Yeah.

22:58

>> Ain't it nuts? Like people think,

23:00

especially comics, you know, we want to

23:02

be up late, getting drunk, [ __ ] off,

23:06

being [ __ ] doing drugs. You know

23:08

what? You just want to get home.

23:09

>> Yeah.

23:10

>> Want to get home, chill out, relax,

23:12

watch TV.

23:13

>> I feel like if I had a dog when I was

23:15

starting out in comedy, I I would have

23:17

been more disciplined. I would have been

23:19

coming home instead of staying out all

23:20

night. I kind of regret that a little

23:22

bit.

23:23

>> You regret staying out all night.

23:24

>> Well, I mean, I was, you know, you know

23:26

how it is. You You do your set, you

23:28

start hanging out in the club in the

23:30

comedy club and drinking or eating or

23:32

whatever,

23:33

>> but there's a certain

23:34

>> I don't know, you go home and you're up

23:37

earlier, you get more done the next day.

23:39

>> Oh, absolutely. Well, it's just you feel

23:41

better. It's It's hard to leave when

23:44

you're having fun, you know. It's also

23:46

you feel like you're a part of a

23:48

different society. Society of people

23:50

don't have a regular job. You got

23:52

freedom. You're your own boss. I grew up

23:56

I lost my parents as a teenager. So I

23:59

live for I live every day like I could

24:02

die tomorrow. So I never want to leave.

24:04

I have ultimate FOMO all the time. I

24:06

never want to miss an event, a party. I

24:08

went to the Super Bowl. I went to

24:10

>> Allstar weekend. I want to go to the

24:12

Grammys. I love life. If I want to make

24:15

the most out of it all the time, it

24:17

works against me sometimes. I think

24:19

>> that's interesting, right? It's the plus

24:21

side of experiencing loss when you're

24:23

young. You really want you you really

24:26

relish life. You want to make the most

24:29

out of it. You want to enjoy it while

24:30

it's here.

24:31

>> Yeah.

24:32

>> Yeah.

24:33

>> One of the things I say on my show is I

24:36

learned early on human beings were made

24:38

to mourn and move on. You can't mourn

24:41

forever or a part of you dies. And

24:44

that's not fair,

24:45

>> right?

24:45

>> So, it gave me this sort of zest for

24:48

living.

24:49

>> You take that loss as a young person,

24:51

you're you're afraid at any second it,

24:54

you know, it's hard to make long-term

24:55

plans. Are your parents still alive?

24:58

>> Yeah. It's amazing amazing blessing. And

25:01

sometimes when you lose people young,

25:04

you're afraid. You're all you live in

25:06

constant fear that it's all going to

25:07

fall apart.

25:08

>> Yeah. I've lost a lot of friends. Like

25:10

sometimes I look at my my contact list

25:13

when I get a new phone, you know, and

25:15

you're swapping over contacts and I'm

25:17

like, "Oh, fuck." You know, I've got

25:20

like 20 dead people in my contact list.

25:22

Some of them I just keep in there, you

25:25

know?

25:25

>> I

25:26

>> I got old phones where like Bourdame was

25:28

texting me. I just kept the phone. I'm

25:29

like, I'm never throwing this phone

25:31

away. You know, bunch of friends who

25:34

>> I look at Bob Saget's texts all the

25:36

time. I listen to Gilbert Godfrieded's

25:38

voicemails. Yeah, I know what you mean.

25:41

Yeah,

25:41

>> it just it brings me right back to them.

25:43

I

25:44

>> those two guys that was those are two

25:46

tough ones. Those are two really tough

25:48

ones.

25:48

>> There's that famous picture of me, Norm

25:51

Gilbert and Bob that Adam Egat took

25:54

>> at Jones restaurant in Hollywood and I

25:59

show that in my special and I talk about

26:02

each one. Do like a tribute to Norm. I

26:06

do a tribute to Gilbert whose family is

26:07

a big part of my family now. His kids

26:10

are great kids. His daughter goes to

26:11

school here in Texas in Austin. And

26:14

there it is.

26:15

>> There it is.

26:16

>> And Bob, who just became a grandfather.

26:20

>> So they left quite a legacy, those guys.

26:23

And I really loved them. And they would

26:25

make me laugh, you know. I would just

26:26

set them up and they would go and I

26:28

would laugh until I was dying laughing.

26:30

>> [ __ ] Norm. What a legend.

26:32

>> The king.

26:33

>> He's such a great guy, too.

26:35

Yeah,

26:36

>> he's so funny, too. And his clips, I

26:38

don't know if it's my algorithm or what,

26:40

but

26:41

>> you would think Norm is making comedy

26:43

content every day if you looked at my

26:45

algorithm.

26:45

>> Well, mine, too. I think a lot of

26:47

people. So, like people just share them

26:48

because, you know, he had so many funny

26:50

things to say about everything. It's

26:52

such a unique perspective,

26:54

>> just an unusual state of mind.

26:59

Canadians. I have a theory that

27:01

Canadians I'm from New Jersey, so I feel

27:04

like New Jersey, I grew up as an

27:07

outsider to New York. We had a root for

27:09

New York sports teams. We had to listen

27:11

to New York radio stations as a kid TV

27:14

stations. And Canada has that with

27:17

America,

27:18

>> right?

27:19

>> So, I think they always feel like

27:20

comedians feel like outsiders a little

27:22

bit. I feel like Canadians kind of have

27:24

that.

27:25

>> Harland, he's Canadian. I mean, Canadian

27:28

comedians, you could go all day. Tom

27:30

Yeah.

27:31

>> Jim Carrey.

27:32

>> Jim Carrey.

27:33

>> A lot of Canadians.

27:34

>> Caroline Ray.

27:36

>> Uh,

27:37

and a lot more.

27:39

>> John Candy, right?

27:41

>> Yeah. John Candy was a Canadian. Yeah.

27:44

>> Uh, Martin Short,

27:45

>> was he? Is he? He is.

27:49

>> I think so. He's still with us.

27:50

>> Those SCTV people.

27:51

>> That's right.

27:52

>> Yeah. Martin Short is he had a rough

27:56

month. He lost a somebody very close to

27:59

him, but he's he's still one of the

28:01

funniest people in the world.

28:02

>> Oh, he was brilliant. All those [ __ ]

28:04

crazy characters.

28:07

>> Oh my god. I was at a birthday party

28:09

once and like Paul Rudd's 50th birthday

28:12

party years ago and I remember

28:15

everybody's like, "Let's do karaoke."

28:16

And everybody wanted to start. Everybody

28:18

was too like shy to like do karaoke

28:20

first. Then Martin Short walked up to

28:23

the mic, belted out like a Sinatra song,

28:26

dropped the mic and walked out to the

28:28

valet and left. Just like kicked it off

28:30

and went, "Fly me to the moon and he was

28:34

gone."

28:36

It's weird when you get older and you

28:39

realize how many guys have passed. Like

28:42

Patrice comes up in my algorithm all the

28:44

time and you know, you just watch old

28:47

clips. I went on a binge a few months

28:50

back of him on Opie and Anthony.

28:52

>> Yeah.

28:53

>> Just [ __ ]

28:54

>> Ruthless.

28:55

>> He would have been the number one

28:57

podcast in the world if he was alive

28:58

today.

28:59

>> Patrice.

29:00

>> Yeah. If he had a podcast cuz he

29:02

probably would have he probably I mean

29:04

it's a perfect normal transition from

29:06

Opie and Anthony to podcasting,

29:07

>> right?

29:08

>> He would uh he would have probably had

29:09

the best podcast in the world

29:11

>> except the guest would never get to talk

29:13

at all.

29:13

>> Yeah. It wouldn't matter. He would be

29:16

dressing him down.

29:19

>> He always had the funny

29:20

>> Patrice's greatness at the Charlie Sheen

29:22

roast. I always talk about this.

29:24

>> Yeah.

29:25

>> He went on last and he was like

29:28

he was we booked him late. He never

29:30

wanted to do a roast.

29:32

>> And he said, "I don't know this one. I

29:33

don't know that one." And finally I

29:35

called him one day. I go, "We're we're

29:36

roasting Charlie Sheen." He goes, "Oh."

29:40

He goes, "I don't know Charlie Sheen,

29:41

but I think I could do that." I go, "You

29:44

know him? You don't know him, but you

29:46

know what? Do you you know it's And he

29:48

goes, "All right, I'm coming." He

29:51

dresses total rock star, like a leather

29:53

suit, like this whole

29:56

>> like fantasy Patrice in his head. And he

29:59

and then the day of the show, he's like

30:01

complaining about his material. He's

30:02

like, "I don't know. All these writers,

30:03

they don't know me. This isn't me." Blah

30:05

blah blah. I go, "Patrice, [ __ ] all

30:07

that. Pay attention and roast the roast.

30:11

Just roast the roast. Make mental notes.

30:14

clock it all, let them see you taking it

30:15

in, and then just go on and talk about

30:17

what you just saw. And that's what he

30:19

did.

30:19

>> No, it was brilliant. Did you see

30:21

Charlie Sheen's uh Netflix documentary?

30:24

>> I haven't.

30:24

>> It's [ __ ] great, man.

30:27

>> Crazy. It's crazy. Like, he talks about

30:30

everything. Talks about this first time

30:32

he smoked crack. A girl was giving him a

30:34

[ __ ] when he smoked crack.

30:35

>> How else you supposed to do it?

30:37

>> He said it's the best experience he's

30:39

ever had. He says he's never topped it.

30:41

>> Wow.

30:42

>> Yeah.

30:42

>> Wow. makes you want to try it.

30:45

Makes you like think maybe.

30:48

>> He was a fascinating guest, too, having

30:50

him in here. It's like that guy's been

30:53

through so much [ __ ] and he's okay, you

30:57

know? It's like, how is he alive,

31:00

>> you know?

31:00

>> Some people are just different, right?

31:01

Tiger blood. I was on tour with him that

31:04

whole time.

31:04

>> That's right. That's right. You were

31:06

doing that thing with him. So what

31:08

happened was when he got kicked off at

31:10

Two and a Half Mend and he went kind of

31:12

kooky, he decided to do this whirlwind

31:15

tour. And the first one he did, he tried

31:16

to go and just wing it.

31:18

>> Torpedo of truth.

31:19

>> Yeah,

31:20

>> that's what he called it.

31:20

>> The winging it one did not work. No.

31:22

>> But then when he started doing it with

31:24

you and he did it with Russell, Russell

31:26

Peters did a bunch of them with him.

31:28

With comics, it actually worked because

31:30

like he would have someone to bounce

31:32

stuff off of and they knew how to be

31:34

entertaining. Yeah. And keep the flow

31:36

going,

31:37

>> right?

31:38

>> Yeah. And then you got into those

31:40

stories and it was amazing.

31:41

>> Yeah.

31:42

>> It totally turned around.

31:43

>> The first one I did was in Atlantic City

31:46

and he called me the night before

31:49

and I was in LA at a party and everyone

31:53

was like, "Yeah, yeah, go do it. Go do

31:54

it." So, I caught a like 6 am flight.

31:57

>> He called you the night before. What did

31:58

he say?

31:59

>> He's like, "My shows aren't going good.

32:01

Every I didn't know him." He goes, "Uh,

32:03

you know, like all these different

32:05

people keep telling me Simon Rex, you

32:07

know, other friends of his kept saying

32:09

Jeff Ross could come out and roast you

32:10

and save this." So, I just wrote jokes

32:13

all night. You know, left the party,

32:15

wrote jokes, caught a 6 a.m. flew. I

32:18

walk into his dressing room like an hour

32:19

before. Chuck Zto is literally staring

32:22

me down going, "Don't be too mean to my

32:24

guy, you know, like they're just trying

32:26

to scare me." And I'm like, "I'm here to

32:28

like work. I'm a comedian, you know, and

32:31

uh Charlie was really cool and and uh I

32:34

told his road manager, he goes, "What do

32:36

you need?" I go, "I need uh a podium to

32:39

roll out the big arenas. I want to make

32:42

it like a show and I need a hazmat

32:44

suit." Because he'd been bombing for

32:46

like a week every single night. I'm

32:48

going to come out. I go, I heard there's

32:49

a Bob scare. I roll out and it's Jersey,

32:52

so it's my crowd. And I just start

32:54

roasting him. And it went well. And I

32:56

was like, if you're winning, because

32:58

he's always like, winning, winning. I'm

32:59

like, if you're winning, something's

33:00

wrong with the [ __ ] scoreboard.

33:07

Old Jeff with hair. Duh. Winning.

33:09

>> Look at that,

33:10

>> boy. He looks so skinny.

33:12

>> Oh yeah.

33:13

>> That's a That's a look of a guy who does

33:15

Coke. Look how ripped he is. Jesus. Oh

33:18

man, he was he was up all night. We had

33:21

w he was like

33:22

>> so he was still partying hard back then,

33:24

>> you know. It's hard to say.

33:26

>> Had to be.

33:26

>> He didn't let me see that side of it.

33:28

>> I'm sure he was. There's no chance he

33:31

was clean.

33:32

>> A warlock.

33:33

>> Oh, that's right. He was a warlock. A

33:35

warlock with tiger blood,

33:36

>> right?

33:37

>> Violent torpedo of truth tour kicks off

33:40

in Detroit. TV star is booed off stage.

33:44

>> Yeah. So then after that they they kept

33:47

calling and going can you do this date

33:48

and can you do that date? It was like

33:50

more money than I'd ever made for a one

33:51

nighter. So I just start started getting

33:53

on the bus and the plane with them. And

33:55

>> how many dates you guys did?

33:56

>> I went up I w up doing eight.

33:59

>> And Russell, how many did you do?

34:01

>> I don't know. I don't know.

34:02

>> So you just had different comics. Who

34:03

else did it?

34:04

>> I don't remember anyone else but me. So

34:06

that's news to me that Russell did.

34:07

>> Yeah, Russell did a few. At least one I

34:09

know of.

34:10

>> Maybe there there might have been some

34:11

in Canada I didn't do. Well, Russell was

34:13

really good off the cuff. You know,

34:15

Russell's great work in the crowd.

34:16

>> I think Russell interviewed him.

34:18

>> I think Russell like that like like you

34:21

said. That's how he did it.

34:22

>> Yeah, I think that's how he did it cuz

34:23

now it occurs to me that he had

34:24

interviewers

34:26

>> on some of them. And I and he had a

34:28

radio guy and I think maybe Russell

34:30

might have done a Canadian.

34:31

>> That's a smart way to do it. Have

34:33

someone who's smart and quick just

34:35

interview because the stories are so

34:37

bananas.

34:37

>> Yeah.

34:38

>> All you need is the stories. just and he

34:40

was so open about stuff talking about

34:42

how much crack he would smoke and

34:44

>> Oh yeah.

34:45

>> And it was just so insane. And everybody

34:47

was so happy that someone was instead of

34:50

hiding from the fact that they [ __ ]

34:52

their life up, they were like

34:54

celebrating that they were off the rails

34:56

and everyone's like tiger blood.

35:00

I remember even Diego Sanchez who was

35:02

fighting in the UFC was saying he had

35:03

tiger blood.

35:05

That's how [ __ ] that's how popular it

35:08

was getting. Yeah, he was he was a he

35:10

was a thing.

35:11

>> Yeah, it was a thing. But it was a new

35:13

thing, right? It was a movie star who

35:15

had gone off the rails and was like

35:17

celebrating it and being open and honest

35:20

in interviews about prostitutes,

35:22

cocaine, chaos,

35:25

>> everything. All the above.

35:26

>> Yeah.

35:27

>> It was a totally new experience for the

35:29

general public cuz before if someone had

35:31

an addiction problem, it was like, oh,

35:32

so sad, right? He was doing coke and you

35:35

know I was my life had fallen apart and

35:38

then I found Jesus. You know it's like

35:39

always one of those things.

35:40

>> He wasn't on an apology tour. He went on

35:42

a [ __ ] you.

35:43

>> Yeah 100%. And no one had ever done that

35:45

before.

35:47

>> No one had ever done a [ __ ] you tour

35:48

before.

35:49

>> Uh

35:50

>> I mean it was a little ill advised the

35:52

first ones, you know, when he went on by

35:54

himself. Like that was a terrible idea,

35:56

>> right?

35:56

>> You can't just wing it. And when you're

35:58

on Coke, you think you could be do

35:59

anything, you know? or he would take

36:01

questions, but there's 15,000 people

36:03

yelling at him.

36:04

>> Right? If you're going to take

36:05

questions, it would have to be a person

36:08

who's a moderator who has a microphone

36:11

and talks to another person and is there

36:14

so they can keep it from going off the

36:15

rails and a line of people. You can't

36:17

just have people yelling out things in

36:19

the audience.

36:20

>> One night, one night somebody wanted his

36:22

money back and he brought the guy up and

36:24

gave his money back and then of course

36:26

like 400 people stood up like, "I want

36:28

my money back." Oh no.

36:30

>> He would get in. He would hear the

36:32

audience too much.

36:33

>> Yeah.

36:34

>> Well, he no experience with that kind of

36:36

stuff,

36:36

>> right?

36:36

>> If you think you could just do live

36:39

audience and deal with 15,000 people's

36:41

different personalities, then you don't

36:43

know what that's like, right? Good luck.

36:46

>> We wound up doing eight shows and I

36:48

would always roast them. So by the

36:49

eighth show I had 20 minutes of Charlie

36:51

Sheen. Every city I'd add jokes. So

36:54

that's when I was like, why don't we

36:55

just do this on TV? I mean, we have the

36:58

roast. And then we did the comedy

36:59

central roast.

37:00

>> Nice.

37:01

>> Patrice and all that. And Mike Tyson was

37:03

at that one.

37:04

>> It's a really interesting career arc

37:06

with him. Well, you if you know his

37:08

story, he was on the set of Apocalypse

37:10

Now with his father when he was 10,

37:12

right?

37:13

>> And then 10 years later, he was doing

37:17

>> what was the [ __ ] movie?

37:19

>> His [ __ ] big war movie. Jesus Christ.

37:21

Why am I blanking? Platoon. He was doing

37:23

Platoon when he was 20.

37:24

>> Yeah.

37:25

>> Which is nuts. 10 years later.

37:27

>> Yeah. I mean, he's doing the next iconic

37:30

war movie, right?

37:31

>> And he's a 20-year-old kid. And then all

37:33

of a sudden, he's a [ __ ] superstar,

37:36

>> right?

37:37

>> He was great in that movie.

37:38

>> And he's just off the rails. Just like

37:40

no restrictions. He's rich. He's young.

37:43

He's handsome. He's just going crazy,

37:46

>> doing drugs. But he made it through it

37:49

all. That's what's nuts.

37:50

>> I got to check that doc out.

37:51

>> It's great. He's a great interview, too.

37:54

Like, like having him on the podcast was

37:56

[ __ ] great. He's really nice guy.

37:59

>> He's very cool and honest about it all.

38:01

And

38:02

>> you know, and he's also like, "Hey, you

38:03

know, I can still act. Like, how about

38:05

I've [ __ ] paid my dues. I've been

38:07

sober for seven years. Like, give me a

38:09

shot."

38:10

>> Yeah.

38:10

>> He can still act.

38:12

>> He's a good actor.

38:13

>> I hope someone does do something like

38:14

that because I feel like if one big

38:17

movie came along, like maybe Tarantino

38:19

could put him in cuz he's the master at

38:21

like reviving careers. What he did with

38:23

Travolta and Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction

38:26

like Travolta was dead on the operating

38:29

table in his career before Pulp Fiction.

38:32

Pulp Fiction came along and boom, he's

38:34

back because they realized like, oh

38:35

[ __ ] John Travolta, John Travolta can

38:38

[ __ ] act.

38:39

>> And that that role was perfect for him.

38:41

Vince, he played this crazy hitman with

38:44

Samuel Jackson. [ __ ] what a movie.

38:47

>> I watch it all the time.

38:48

>> Yeah, it completely revived his career.

38:50

H

38:51

>> yeah. He's the like Quenton Tarantino is

38:54

like the master of seeing things that

38:56

other people don't see, you know? He's

38:58

like that guy's still great.

38:59

>> Yeah.

39:00

>> And I think that's like the case with

39:01

Charlie. Like someone's got to come

39:02

along and see and just go, I just need

39:05

to get him a role where he just can

39:09

really sink his teeth into it and he'll

39:11

[ __ ] kill it. Especially now at this

39:13

stage of his life where he knows how

39:15

important it is. He'll throw himself

39:17

into it, right? It'd be [ __ ] amazing.

39:20

>> Well, like some people don't act for a

39:22

long time and then look what Shawn Penn

39:24

just did. He just and he came back after

39:26

God knows how long and just did this

39:28

totally iconic, unrecognizable, strange

39:31

character.

39:32

>> I didn't see that movie. I' I've heard

39:34

all these mixed reviews.

39:35

>> Whatever. It's interesting to see

39:36

Shawn's take on this

39:39

soldier.

39:40

>> Look, Sean Penn's out of his [ __ ]

39:42

mind, but that's the kind of guy that

39:44

makes a great actor. A great actor.

39:46

Ditch the Oscars to go see.

39:48

>> Yeah. Go to Ukraine.

39:49

>> So cool.

39:50

>> Go hang out. Go hang out with my boy

39:51

Zinsky. Do Coke.

39:56

>> That pure Russian coke.

39:59

>> I like how you think that's what they

40:01

were doing. That's good.

40:01

>> I'm just guessing. I'm just taking a

40:04

wild guess. But that that guy, I mean,

40:05

how about him like goes and [ __ ]

40:08

meets the drug lord. What's his name?

40:10

What's wrong with my brain today, Jamie?

40:12

Um, what the [ __ ] his name? The dude

40:14

he met in Mexico. the guy who got

40:16

arrested,

40:16

>> El Chapo.

40:17

>> El Chapo, thank you.

40:18

>> Went down and met El Chapo. And that's

40:20

how El Chapo wind up getting arrested,

40:22

>> right?

40:23

>> He wanted to meet Sean Penn. Sean Penn's

40:25

like, "All right, I'll go meet." He

40:26

wrote an article for like Rolling Stone.

40:27

He like was a journalist,

40:29

>> right? I remember

40:30

>> went I mean, like who what [ __ ] movie

40:32

star goes down and meets El Chapo?

40:37

By the way, that shirt, Conor McGregor

40:41

um bought a shirt that's like exactly

40:43

like that shirt and recreated that pose

40:46

with I forget who he shook hands with,

40:49

but it was like this like funny inside

40:51

joke that a lot of people didn't catch.

40:53

It's like, why is he wearing that shirt?

40:54

And people realize, oh my god, he's

40:56

wearing the El Chapo shirt.

40:59

>> He's like, he bought a similar shirt.

41:02

He's like literally doing that.

41:04

>> Oh my gosh,

41:05

>> he's so silly. He dressed his gangster

41:07

El Chapo. He's literally doing the

41:09

thing, but he did it on purpose.

41:13

>> Nuts.

41:15

>> I mean, it takes insane balls to be a

41:18

world famous actor and decide I'm going

41:21

to go meet a drug lord in Mexico and

41:25

write an article for Rolling Stone.

41:26

>> He's an adventurer.

41:28

>> I guess

41:29

>> acting's a part of him, not all of them.

41:31

>> I mean, he must be. I mean, he's in

41:33

[ __ ] Ukraine. Like, what does he do?

41:34

>> I remember being at a party. Eddie

41:35

Veter's birthday party and Sean Penn

41:38

walked in with Stormmy Daniels. Like he

41:40

has friends from the most

41:43

diverse places.

41:45

>> That's funny.

41:45

>> Silinski, Stormmy.

41:48

>> Have you seen uh Kyle Dunigan's face

41:50

swap things with Trump and Stormmy

41:52

Daniels?

41:53

>> Oh my god, they're so funny.

41:54

>> So funny.

41:55

>> Kyle Dunigan, he's another guy that got

41:57

revived by Kill Tony or like really got

42:01

the world got to see him. like we did we

42:04

covered his face swap videos a bunch of

42:06

times on the podcast and blew them up.

42:08

But to see him as these characters like

42:11

when he plays RFK Jr. when he plays

42:13

Elon. Like that is what really like

42:16

kicked off Kyle's career,

42:19

>> you know?

42:19

>> Dude, his RFK is

42:21

>> so good.

42:22

>> So fun. His

42:22

>> is Elon so good.

42:23

>> That's when he first started doing the

42:25

face swap and I was like, "This is the

42:27

best. My text chain's always sharing his

42:29

stuff."

42:30

>> Is Bill Maher is Bill Maher is amazing.

42:32

You know, I tried to play

42:33

>> cuz his jokes are funny about it.

42:34

>> I tried to play the Bill Maher

42:36

impression with Bill Maher when he was

42:38

in here. He goes, "If you play it, I'll

42:40

leave."

42:41

>> Why does he care? I don't

42:42

>> because he doesn't hang out with comics

42:43

enough.

42:45

>> He's out there doing his show, hanging

42:47

out with political people, being all

42:48

serious. It's like you

42:50

>> he just wants to be a what do you call

42:52

it? A contrarian. I was on his podcast

42:55

and like he literally

42:57

he just wanted to fight about anything.

42:59

I go, "The Ramones are great." He's

43:01

like, "No, they're not." I'm like, "All

43:03

right, man.

43:06

>> How do you say Rock and Roll High

43:07

School's not great? Come on, son. The

43:09

look, the crazy hair,

43:10

>> all of it. The Ramones is one of the

43:12

greatest.

43:12

>> The Ramones ruled. They were ruled.

43:15

>> They wrote a song over two minutes in 5

43:17

seconds.

43:17

>> How could you say they're not great?

43:19

>> It's nice to go see them in college,

43:21

man.

43:21

>> You don't have to like it, but you you

43:23

got to admit there's there's a reason

43:25

why people love them,

43:27

>> right?

43:27

>> Yeah.

43:29

You know what I'm saying?

43:30

>> Yeah, man.

43:31

>> People are so weird when they want to

43:32

say something sucks. Like, I was having

43:35

an argument with someone there like

43:36

Taylor Swift's all dumb music. I go,

43:38

"No, it's not. It's not." She's got some

43:40

great songs. No Body, No Crime is a

43:43

great [ __ ] song.

43:44

>> By the way, anybody who writes their own

43:46

music and produces their own music.

43:48

>> Also, it's like, do you think you're

43:50

smarter than everybody who loves her?

43:52

Like, she's she's literally got more

43:54

fans than anybody alive. And you think

43:56

they're all wrong? That's kind of crazy.

43:58

Like, you just you don't have to like

43:59

it. You don't have to like it, but

44:01

there's there's like people have closed

44:04

minds.

44:05

I met her at Oscars' party last weekend

44:07

and she introduced hers. I was talking

44:09

to Travis. She was I was talking to

44:11

Travis for a few minutes and she said,

44:12

"Hi, I'm T inter you know I was a little

44:15

starruck cuz I don't know musicians are

44:17

the last thing for me like I I really

44:19

respect and she was super cool man and

44:22

she was really cool actually and I told

44:24

her that I went to her era show and she

44:26

did really

44:26

>> she said she watches the the roast and

44:29

>> Oh, that's funny.

44:30

>> It was pretty cool actually.

44:31

>> That's awesome. I wonder when they make

44:33

love if they wear helmets. Those two.

44:35

What's

44:35

>> Why do you think they wear helmets?

44:37

>> Just saying. It's got to be wild.

44:40

>> Travis and Taylor.

44:41

>> So sweet and passionate.

44:42

>> Maybe. I hope so.

44:44

>> That's what I think.

44:45

>> You have your fantasies. I have mine.

44:50

>> Shoulder pads, cleats.

44:52

>> Yeah.

44:52

>> Going for it on Astro Turf.

44:54

>> He's a nice guy.

44:55

>> Is he?

44:55

>> Has he been in here?

44:56

>> No. Never met him.

44:57

>> He'd be a good

44:57

>> good dude.

44:58

>> Yeah.

45:00

It's interesting when people are public,

45:03

like a public relationship like that.

45:05

Two super famous people. It's like

45:07

that's a lot of pressure and then you're

45:09

putting it all out there in the world

45:10

and like everybody's judging you like

45:13

it's hard enough to keep a relationship

45:15

together, but keep a relationship

45:16

together when you have to field

45:17

everyone's opinions of you. Especially

45:19

like Taylor Swift goes, how many [ __ ]

45:21

songs does she have about ex-boyfriends,

45:23

>> right?

45:23

>> It's like gez, if you break up with her,

45:26

the [ __ ] diss track of the universe

45:28

is coming your way.

45:30

Yeah. Right. Kendrick Drake. [ __ ] that.

45:33

Just don't break up with Taylor.

45:34

>> Exactly. Yeah. But it's just like you're

45:37

doing it in front of the world and

45:39

you're you're inviting all the shittiest

45:40

people in the world to have their

45:42

opinions about you. It's like

45:44

>> it's a lot of pressure.

45:45

>> Freaking Timberlake this weekend. That

45:47

really pissed me off. They released

45:50

>> a two or three year old video of him

45:52

getting a DUI.

45:53

>> Yeah. Oh, I did see that.

45:55

>> Why does that need to be out there? Why

45:56

do they What is

45:57

>> How is that a legal thing to take like a

46:00

a video of someone being arrested? Like

46:03

why is that? Because he's a public

46:04

figure. Why Why isn't that private? I

46:07

don't understand.

46:08

>> It makes

46:09

>> And there was nothing outrageous about

46:10

it. He didn't

46:11

>> hassling this guy and bringing up old

46:13

news. It really bugged me.

46:15

>> I mean, there was nothing outrageous

46:16

about it. I mean, he was very calm and

46:19

relaxed and, you know, they arrested him

46:21

for DUI. They, you know, they asked him

46:23

a few questions. There was nothing about

46:25

it that was, you know, like, oh, look at

46:28

Justin Timberlake. He's off the rails.

46:29

He's acting crazy.

46:31

>> So, it's like he had a few drinks.

46:33

Probably shouldn't have drove

46:35

>> drove got caught.

46:36

>> That's it,

46:37

>> right? It happens to a lot of people.

46:39

Yeah. And whatever. Just cuz he's famous

46:40

or whatever.

46:41

>> He wasn't acting like an [ __ ] He

46:43

didn't do anything terrible

46:45

>> and you know, and everybody wants like,

46:46

"Oh, look at him. He got caught,

46:49

>> right?

46:49

>> You have so much money and you still got

46:51

caught,

46:52

>> right?" You know, obviously get a

46:54

driver, dude. You know, you got to get

46:56

drunk, right? It's not that hard.

46:57

>> He's tooling around the Hamptons. They

46:58

thought he was fine.

47:00

>> Yeah, that's probably it, right? That's

47:01

where all the rich people drink and

47:03

drive.

47:04

>> Well, I don't I don't get having to

47:06

torture somebody by releasing the

47:08

videos.

47:09

>> Well, I mean, all he has to do is just

47:10

not be online for a few days and it'll

47:13

go away. But it's like, why is it okay

47:16

to release that? Why is that a public

47:18

record thing? Unless there's like some

47:21

Even if there's a case, that should be

47:23

something that gets released in court.

47:25

>> No, they release it as a public

47:27

information. But

47:28

>> what?

47:29

>> Right.

47:29

>> Why?

47:30

>> I don't know.

47:30

>> Why? Cuz he sings.

47:31

>> Cuz we live in a cruel [ __ ] world.

47:33

That's why.

47:34

>> Yeah. We We live in a place where people

47:36

enjoy cruelty. They enjoy Well, it's

47:39

like you look at him, you know, he's

47:41

like super famous, married to what's her

47:43

name? Was he married to Jessica?

47:45

>> Jessica. Beautiful woman. Yeah. Right.

47:47

He's got this perfect life. He's rich.

47:49

He's famous. He can dance. He can sing.

47:51

He's tall. He's handsome.

47:53

>> He's a star when he was young. [ __ ] that

47:55

guy. You know, that's how everybody is.

47:57

Oh, look. He was drunk.

47:59

>> [ __ ] you've been drunk before, too.

48:00

Shut the [ __ ] up.

48:01

>> Right.

48:01

>> And if you haven't, [ __ ] you.

48:03

>> If you never been drunk, [ __ ] you.

48:05

Unless, like your dad was an alcoholic

48:07

and, you know, understanding

48:09

circumstances.

48:11

But it's like why is that something that

48:14

people are I saw it came across my uh my

48:17

news feed and I I looked at it for a few

48:19

seconds. I was like there's nothing

48:20

outrageous about this. But you see Allan

48:22

Richmond though.

48:23

>> No,

48:23

>> the guy who plays Reacher, he beat the

48:25

[ __ ] out of some guy in front of some

48:28

kids today.

48:30

>> Yeah. Or yesterday. It was crazy. He

48:33

That guy's a giant dude. You know that

48:35

show Reacher?

48:36

>> Yeah, I heard of it. He's [ __ ] huge

48:38

and jacked and he was riding dirt bikes

48:41

and he got in some altercation with his

48:43

neighbor and someone filmed it and you

48:45

know he's all this hulking guy and I

48:47

don't know what the circumstances were.

48:49

Maybe the guy deserved it. Maybe the guy

48:51

was a piece of [ __ ] Maybe the guy came

48:53

after him first. But all you see in the

48:55

video is him beating this guy up and you

48:58

know he's [ __ ] this tank of a man.

49:01

He's huge. He's like 250 lbs and he's

49:04

beating some guy's ass and then he gets

49:06

back on his motorcycle and huh

49:08

>> he's doing it in front of kids too which

49:10

is kind of crazy

49:11

>> violence.

49:12

>> Well, it's also it's like why you I

49:14

don't know what happened so I don't

49:16

really want to comment on the

49:17

extenduating circumstances.

49:19

>> The TMZ article,

49:21

>> right?

49:21

>> Was pushed off the bike by the man.

49:23

>> Oh, the guy pushed him off the bike.

49:26

Okay.

49:28

Well, then that guy's just trying to get

49:29

it. You want to see the video? Let's

49:30

watch the video. So, watch the video.

49:33

Like, so this is after he already beat

49:35

the guy's ass.

49:39

>> I don't I'm not going to show it.

49:41

>> So, he's punching the dude.

49:43

The other guy's a big guy, too.

49:47

He might have just had a dicky neighbor.

49:49

Boy, neighbors and like especially if

49:51

you got a homeowners association,

49:53

they're some [ __ ] [ __ ] So this

49:55

guy, so if the guy pushed him off the

49:58

bike, I kind of understand

50:02

the guy pushed him off the bike, he's

50:03

lucky that's all he did to him.

50:04

>> This could be eight-year-olds like

50:07

>> with tricycles,

50:08

>> but those little kids that are there,

50:10

too, and he's yelling at him and

50:11

pointing at him. But if you really did

50:14

push him off the bike, that guy's a

50:16

piece of [ __ ]

50:17

>> And he's lucky. And he look, he's an

50:19

idiot because like even after he beat

50:21

his ass, he's still getting in his face.

50:25

and he's still talking [ __ ]

50:27

Okay. Well, that's a different story.

50:29

Well, that's good. That's good to know.

50:30

Yeah. [ __ ] that guy. You don't push

50:33

someone off a bike. And it's like cuz

50:34

the B dirt bikes were loud and they're

50:36

in the neighborhood. You know, turn your

50:38

TV up. Shut the [ __ ] up.

50:39

>> People are just so into everybody's

50:41

business. I've watched so many videos of

50:43

homeowners associations yelling at

50:45

people for doing whatever. parking an

50:48

old car in your driveway.

50:50

>> Or just like people always love to tell

50:53

people what they can and can't do,

50:55

>> right?

50:55

>> I've had homeowners associations before.

50:57

I don't know if you've ever dealt with

50:58

that.

50:59

>> It is a [ __ ] nightmare. You You have

51:02

to sit down and talk to these dorks who

51:04

tell you what you should and shouldn't

51:06

do with your fence.

51:07

>> Yeah.

51:08

>> How high are your hedges? Dude, I had a

51:10

situation once where the there was all

51:11

these rot iron fences in my neighborhood

51:14

and I repaired my fence and I replaced

51:16

it with a different row iron fence and

51:18

they said, "You can't have rot iron

51:20

fences. We have a new rule. It has to be

51:21

equesting fence." I said, "But there's

51:23

no consistency." I said, "The entire

51:25

neighborhood has rot iron fences." They

51:27

said, "It doesn't matter." I said,

51:28

"Well, let's go to court." I go, "I

51:30

don't give a fuck." I go, "I'll sue

51:32

you." I go, "I have money." I go, "Let's

51:34

go to court." I go, "I'm not taking my

51:35

[ __ ] fence down." And they're like,

51:36

"You're going to take your fence down."

51:38

I go, "You're not going to tell me

51:40

anything,

51:40

>> right?

51:41

>> You're not going to tell me what to do

51:43

just because I go, it looks great. It's

51:45

not like it's a blight on the

51:46

neighborhood. The house is beautiful.

51:48

Shut the [ __ ] up." And eventually I won.

51:51

>> Did you Did you have to sue?

51:53

>> Well, I threatened to sue and they

51:54

backed off because they were afraid of

51:55

suing. They were afraid of lawsuits cuz

51:56

then you'd have to they would have to

51:58

use the Homeowners Association funds to

52:00

do this. And it didn't make any sense.

52:02

Like I talked to a lawyer about it. I

52:03

said, "Does this make any sense?" He

52:05

goes, "No, there's a precedent in the

52:06

neighborhood. Like every third house had

52:09

rot iron fencing. And it wasn't like it

52:11

wasn't good-looking. Like it was

52:13

beautiful. It was new. It was clean. I

52:15

had a reputable company build it.

52:17

There's nothing wrong with it. And I was

52:19

replacing row iron fence with more row

52:21

iron fence. It was just better. It was

52:22

like the fence was broken. It looked

52:24

shitty. It was like, you know, they get

52:25

rusty where they connect. And I had to

52:27

get it replaced.

52:28

>> So what on earth was their problem?

52:30

>> Just [ __ ] [ __ ] This is how [ __ ]

52:32

they are. I had a neighbor who he lived

52:34

across the street. He told me that I had

52:37

to trim my trees and thin them out so

52:41

that he could see the view in the

52:44

distance. And I said, "What are you

52:46

talking about?" And he said, "We have a

52:48

regulation that says you can't obstruct

52:50

the view." I go, "These trees have been

52:53

here for 50 years." And then I talked to

52:55

the guy who sold me the house. He's

52:56

like, "That [ __ ] was trying to do

52:58

that with me, too. Just tell him to [ __ ]

52:59

himself." Yeah.

53:00

>> He's just a weird guy. He said he built

53:02

an observation deck at the top of his

53:04

hill in his backyard. So he could see

53:06

like the lights of the city in the

53:08

distance and he wanted you to cut your

53:10

trees down. So you're obstructing the

53:12

view. I go, "Your house is obstructing

53:14

my view of this hill. I like to look at

53:16

hills." Is that what we're going to do?

53:18

Take your house down. You take your

53:20

house down. I'll trim these trees. [ __ ]

53:22

you, man.

53:22

>> Lift this house up.

53:24

>> He's like, "Oh, so it's going to be like

53:25

that." I go, "Going to be like what? You

53:27

want me to cut trees down so you can

53:29

see?" Like you don't have a view, man.

53:31

You're not on the edge of the hill.

53:32

You're you're back set. This is what the

53:35

view looks like from where you are. This

53:37

house has been here before your house

53:38

was there. Yeah. Go eat [ __ ]

53:41

>> You could have asked nice and maybe you

53:42

would have done something.

53:43

>> I wouldn't have done a [ __ ] thing.

53:45

It's not It didn't make any sense. It's

53:47

just people want to tell people what to

53:49

do. Like I was reading this article

53:51

where this homeowners association hired

53:53

a tow company to go around the

53:56

neighborhood and tow all the cars that

53:58

had expired tags.

54:00

Can you imagine like you know your tax's

54:02

expired like ah [ __ ] I'll get to it I'm

54:04

I'm busy I'll get to it next week you

54:07

know you figure you're just running

54:08

around and then all a sudden they tow

54:09

your car like [ __ ] you man like [ __ ] you

54:14

just people love to tell other people

54:17

what to do and homeowners associations

54:19

when they get power they become like the

54:21

little hall monitors of the neighborhood

54:23

>> you know your grass is unruly you it's

54:27

supposed to be two inches it's poor like

54:31

just people people love to do that. They

54:34

love to tell people what to do and what

54:36

not to do.

54:37

>> I have one neighbor who kind of runs the

54:39

whole block and she puts everyone on an

54:42

email chain and she's pretty she leads

54:44

with love, but she looks out for

54:47

everybody.

54:47

>> Well, as long as I'm looking out is not

54:49

bad. It's just like nonsense. Like the

54:51

guy wanted me to trim the trees. He

54:53

wanted me to thin out my You want me to

54:55

chop the trees down? He goes, "No, I

54:57

just want you to thin them out. you can

54:58

thin them out. I go, "What you What are

55:00

you talking about? Chop all the leaves

55:02

off so that you could see lights in the

55:04

distance."

55:06

It was like the dumbest conversation.

55:08

And he realized while we're in the

55:09

middle of the conversation how dumb this

55:11

is,

55:11

>> right?

55:12

>> And then we never talked again. And I

55:14

would see him occasionally.

55:15

>> Isn't there a safety issue with trimming

55:16

your trees, like thinning them out,

55:19

fire?

55:19

>> Safety.

55:20

>> Well, I mean, where we were there was

55:23

The real issue is brush. The real issue

55:25

is the ground, you know, dried brush on

55:28

the ground. We were evacuated from where

55:30

I live three times from fires

55:33

>> down here.

55:33

>> No, this is in California.

55:35

>> Yeah. Yeah.

55:35

>> And when uh I lived in California, the

55:37

last big fire in 2018, we lost three

55:41

houses in front of our house and my

55:43

neighbor's house caught on fire. But uh

55:45

I had one my my crazy friend Bud would

55:48

not leave the neighborhood. They

55:49

evacuated the whole neighborhood. He

55:50

wouldn't leave. He's like, "I'm

55:51

staying." He's I'm staying. I'm going to

55:53

save my house. I'm going to save other

55:54

people's houses. And he [ __ ] did. He

55:56

saved his house. He saved a He saved my

55:58

neighbor's house. He checked my

56:00

neighbor's house. My roof the roof is on

56:01

fire. He got water on it. He called the

56:04

fire department. There was fire

56:05

departments that were like trying to put

56:06

out fires in the neighborhood the moment

56:08

they started and they they hosed his

56:10

roof down

56:12

>> cuz embers will fly and they land.

56:14

>> No, I had it in LA. I had to evacuate

56:16

for one day.

56:17

>> It's spooky, man. It's The fires in

56:20

California are no joke, man. It's It's

56:22

really weird to see when it happens

56:24

because you realize like how nature is

56:26

completely in control when that happens.

56:28

You just this storm of flames that comes

56:31

over the hills.

56:33

It's wild. It's It's wild and it cannot

56:36

be controlled. And once it starts, it's

56:38

just a matter of trying to contain it

56:39

and a certain amount of houses are just

56:40

going to go no matter what depending on

56:42

when which way the wind blows.

56:45

>> But that's was wasn't what the problem

56:46

was. Was this guy was just a [ __ ]

56:50

just a just it's a homeowners

56:53

association thing. It's just like people

56:55

that think they like they there was a we

56:58

I'm still a part of this email group

57:00

that you know I I'm still on the email

57:02

of the homeowner association. One of the

57:04

guys

57:05

>> um poisoned one of the people in the

57:07

homeowner association's dogs.

57:10

>> Yeah. Like they got in some sort of a

57:12

dispute about something and this guy

57:14

poisoned his [ __ ] dogs.

57:16

>> Wow.

57:16

>> Yeah. you evil [ __ ]

57:19

>> Wow.

57:20

>> But it's like that kind of thing. It's

57:21

these people that just want to control

57:23

their neighbors, man. It's so weird.

57:25

Like one of my neighbors.

57:26

>> What's the punishment for that?

57:28

>> He should be shot. You [ __ ] piece of

57:31

[ __ ] That's like killing a family

57:32

member. Somebody killed

57:33

>> whatever. He should have to eat whatever

57:34

he gave those dogs.

57:35

>> You should go to jail for sure. I don't

57:37

know what happened. I don't know if they

57:38

caught the guy. I They don't I don't

57:40

think they know exactly who did it. They

57:42

were They had no no video evidence. the

57:45

person who lived there apparently didn't

57:46

have good security cameras, but um

57:49

there's just a it's so weird like they

57:52

would get mad at someone for the way

57:53

they designed their house. And I was

57:55

like, "What do you give a fuck?" And

57:57

he's like, "This is like one of my

57:58

neighbors built a house and my other

58:00

neighbor go, what do you think about his

58:01

house?" I go, "The house?" Like, "I

58:03

don't care." And he's like, "I think

58:05

it's ugly and this this house is going

58:07

to lower our property values." I go,

58:08

"What? What are you [ __ ] talking

58:10

about? Your house looks great. You have

58:12

a beautiful house. Do you think people

58:13

are going to pay less for your house cuz

58:14

this house is boring? Like this doesn't

58:17

make any sense.

58:18

>> It's but it's just people they nitpick

58:20

and when they have control when people

58:23

have control over other people's situ

58:25

like they don't have control over their

58:27

own life and their life is just a sloppy

58:29

mess they always like to look at other

58:31

people's lives and I don't like where he

58:33

puts his dumpsters.

58:34

>> It's a hater.

58:35

>> Yeah,

58:36

>> we all confront that all the time.

58:37

>> It's not just a hater. It's a hater with

58:39

power because of homeowners

58:41

associations. And from that moment on, I

58:44

decided I will never buy a home with a

58:46

homeowners association. Never. No

58:49

[ __ ] chance. I don't care how cool

58:51

they are cuz someone not cool could move

58:53

in and then it becomes a nightmare. I

58:55

will never have conversations those kind

58:57

of people where they tell you what you

58:59

could do with your lawn. Like, [ __ ] you.

59:02

>> Yeah. [ __ ] you. When I was a young

59:06

comic, I lived with my grandfather in

59:08

the house that I grew up in. And we

59:09

would never ever ever mow the lawn. We

59:12

just didn't have any money. We didn't

59:13

care. And everyone in our neighborhood

59:15

just hated us. They would heckle us and

59:17

yell at us. So, I guess I've been the

59:20

eyesore. And now I'm on the other side

59:21

of it. My grandfather lived in the same

59:24

house that he bought in the 1940s. And

59:26

when he bought it in the 1940s, this was

59:28

in uh it was an all Italian neighborhood

59:30

in Newark. And then um where I'm from.

59:33

They started doing You were born in New

59:35

York.

59:35

>> Newark, New Jersey.

59:36

>> No [ __ ]

59:37

>> City [ __ ]

59:38

>> Let's go.

59:40

>> That's where I learned karate.

59:41

>> Is that really?

59:42

>> From detectives in Newark.

59:44

>> Really?

59:44

>> Oh yeah.

59:45

>> Yeah. People don't know you're a black

59:46

belt in Taekwondo.

59:47

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep.

59:48

>> That's wild. Do you still do it at all?

59:50

>> I mean, I work out like, you know, not

59:53

with people, but I I know my moves and I

59:55

I do a few in the new Netflix special. I

59:58

throw some kicks for fun and tell the

59:59

story about getting a black belt at

60:02

starting at six, getting bullied. My mom

60:05

dragging me to the house of empty hands.

60:08

That was what it was called. Ronnie

60:09

Rosselli, Newark detective, teaching me

60:12

karate, almost like a father figure.

60:15

>> Oh, that's awesome.

60:15

>> Gave me confidence. Gave me

60:18

self-respect, respect for others. Taught

60:21

me that hard work pays off. You know,

60:23

when you get a black belt at 10 and a

60:25

half, you go, "Wow, maybe I could be

60:27

something in my life if I work as hard

60:29

as I did at that, maybe I could be good

60:31

at something else, too."

60:33

>> Yeah, for sure. I mean, it teaches you a

60:35

lot about like the belt system is really

60:37

good because you get rewarded for your

60:39

work and then you fe see like a tangible

60:41

result instead of just like, "Oo, I'm

60:43

getting better." It's like, oh, there's

60:45

like a ceremony. Like, I've reached a

60:47

new level. Like, now, you know, now I

60:49

have to be

60:50

>> Some of my most cherished memories are

60:51

those ceremonies of my dad and mom

60:54

watching me get my brown belt, blue

60:56

belt, brown belt, then black belt, and

60:58

competing in tournaments all over the

61:00

east coast.

61:01

>> Isn't that awesome?

61:01

>> The what was his name? Gary.

61:04

There's this karate guy. Used to throw

61:06

to Gary Alexander. He threw east coast

61:08

tournaments and I used to compete. I

61:10

still have a room half a dozen karate

61:12

trophies. That's awesome.

61:13

>> It's the best time of my life.

61:15

>> I lost most of my stuff, but I do have a

61:17

bunch of metals that I still have that

61:19

are in my drawer by my bed. Bunch of

61:21

metals from the day, but it seems weird

61:23

when I pick them up. They don't even

61:24

seem real.

61:26

>> It's from another life almost.

61:27

>> Oh, it's another life. Like I don't even

61:30

I until I like hit a bag or something

61:32

like that, I almost forget that I could

61:34

do it, you know? And then I do it. I'm

61:36

like, "Oo,

61:37

>> right.

61:37

>> Still got it."

61:38

>> I like block. I I like my kicks. I can

61:42

front snap kick. I can't sidekick. I can

61:44

barely roundhouse at this point. But

61:46

it's like

61:47

>> why not?

61:48

>> I got a belly. I've

61:53

There's no real good reason other than

61:56

I'm just, you know,

61:57

>> you ever thought about like starting to

61:58

take classes again?

61:59

>> If I if I I I do think about it. I

62:02

probably could. Yeah.

62:04

>> You know, you're good at kicking of

62:06

pushing me to do stuff like that.

62:07

>> It'd be good for your health. Just take

62:09

a class a couple times a week. What

62:10

would I take if I was a black belt in

62:12

Taewondo?

62:13

>> Take taekwondo. Just start taking that

62:15

again.

62:15

>> Yeah.

62:15

>> Yeah. I mean, you're doing it for

62:16

exercise. It's not like you're going to

62:18

fight in the UFC.

62:18

>> No.

62:19

>> Just go and start, you know, you'd

62:22

probably feel it a little bit and then

62:25

you remember what you used to be able to

62:26

do and so your muscle memory would kick

62:28

in. Yeah.

62:29

>> You'd start probably watching your diet

62:31

a little bit better, right?

62:32

>> Drinking more water. Yeah. Taking

62:35

vitamins. Then next thing you know, four

62:37

or five months have gone by and now your

62:40

waist is thinner, your kicks are

62:41

snappier,

62:42

>> you're going to three classes a week

62:44

instead of two. You know, you feel

62:47

better. People go, "Jeff, look at you.

62:49

You're looking great." Like, "Hey, I

62:51

started taking taekwondo again."

62:52

>> Yeah. It's not a bad idea. I guess I I

62:55

guess I wouldn't wear my black belt. I

62:57

would feel like I was disrespecting,

62:59

>> right,

63:00

>> that art.

63:01

>> Yeah.

63:02

>> So, I'd have to reearn that. Well, you

63:04

could always take a totally new style

63:06

and start out as a white belt. You know,

63:07

you take like Kyushin the shirt I'm

63:10

wearing right now, George St. Pierre.

63:12

Take something else. Just take something

63:13

near you like Kra Maha. Like take uh

63:16

anything.

63:16

>> My manager Amy told me she was your

63:18

publicist when you were on the cover of

63:20

Black Belt magazine.

63:22

>> Oh yeah. Amy's V.

63:24

>> Yeah.

63:25

>> Yeah. Way back in the D.

63:27

>> I love that. That's so funny.

63:29

>> Yeah. Um I mean I never stopped working

63:32

out. I just don't it's too much of a

63:34

part of my brain. Like my mind doesn't

63:37

operate well if I have days even if I

63:40

just take a couple days off. I don't

63:42

feel right. I feel squirly. I feel like

63:45

I'm not balanced.

63:48

You know,

63:48

>> sometimes I just like to stand in front

63:50

of a mirror and just throw blocks and

63:52

just

63:53

>> make sure that I I like the way that it

63:55

feels to just do it.

63:56

>> It's meditative.

63:57

>> Yeah.

63:58

>> Yeah. You know what I used to love

63:59

doing, especially when I lived in

64:00

California? I'd take a couple bong hits

64:02

and just hit the bag and just like feel

64:05

it. Just

64:07

just start feeling it. Just w

64:10

>> I remember my cottage.

64:12

>> Do you do you remember all those?

64:13

>> I remember at least the first two I

64:15

think.

64:15

>> God, I used to hate those things. I

64:17

didn't think I was young and immature

64:20

and I didn't understand the value of

64:21

forms. I used to think that this is

64:24

pointless. This isn't fighting. I only

64:26

wanted to practice fighting technique.

64:28

But now I understand it's it teaches you

64:30

body control.

64:31

>> Like you, you know, you throw a a

64:33

sidekick and you snap it up in the air

64:35

and you hold it and you turn and block

64:37

and all that stuff. Like it teaches you

64:39

body. It's like a almost like a form of

64:41

yoga,

64:42

>> you know, and it it teaches you to

64:44

control your body. I do a lot of kicks

64:45

in the air now and I do them slowly.

64:48

Like I I and it it's really good for

64:51

your control and your balance. And I

64:54

didn't think that when I was younger. I

64:56

thought that was like a waste of time. I

64:58

thought like really what's important is

64:59

like hitting things really hard and

65:01

being fast.

65:02

>> And now I realized like no no no no

65:04

there's like a lot of value even to help

65:06

your techniques and to be able to hit

65:08

things hard like do it slowly and just

65:11

have full control of your balance and

65:13

your movement. So I like to do that. I

65:15

like to do like slow kicks in my

65:18

>> I like that's why I like yoga.

65:19

>> Yoga is amazing.

65:21

>> Yeah. I feel like that's akin to martial

65:24

arts.

65:24

>> It makes me high. Yoga is like the best.

65:26

>> You take your shoes off.

65:28

>> Oh yeah.

65:28

>> Your phone is gone.

65:29

>> You're so relaxed.

65:30

>> It's just about your body and control.

65:32

>> So calm.

65:32

>> Yeah.

65:33

>> Yeah. Yoga is so good for your brain.

65:36

>> Usually on Mondays when I'm here, I

65:37

would go with Tony to his high yoga.

65:39

>> Yeah. Oh, Tony loves it. Yeah. He raves

65:41

about his yoga.

65:42

>> He told me he's been off it a little

65:44

bit. But

65:44

>> he has. Yeah. Well, you know, the thing

65:46

about Tony is like he's so focused on

65:48

Kill Tony right now because the momentum

65:50

is so extraordinary and he realizes that

65:53

like Tony's really aware that he's in a

65:55

very rare moment in his life where

65:57

things are going so well. So, he's got

65:59

his foot on the gas.

66:00

>> Yeah, of course.

66:01

>> And he's got a new special that he

66:03

filmed that he's editing right now

66:05

getting ready to release and he's just

66:07

>> so proud of him, man. And he's earned

66:08

it.

66:09

>> I always told him he would take a

66:10

different path than a normal

66:12

>> entertainer. He always had this kind of

66:14

odd trajectory.

66:16

>> Well, he's an odd guy.

66:17

>> Yeah.

66:18

>> You know, Tony, you'd swear he's gay and

66:20

he's not,

66:24

>> but he's an awesome person. Like people

66:26

who don't know Tony, they see like the

66:28

outside of him. Like as a friend, he's a

66:31

great friend. Great guy. I love that

66:34

guy.

66:34

>> Checking on each other and he's the

66:36

best. He was so happy. He was the first

66:38

one to text me when he knew I was coming

66:39

down here. When I was workshopping my my

66:42

show, he came and saw it in Austin. Came

66:45

to the opening night on Broadway in New

66:48

York. He's like there for his friends.

66:49

He's

66:50

>> 100% 100%. Well, that's the beautiful

66:52

thing about Kill Tony is it's all about

66:54

supporting people and giving people

66:56

careers.

66:56

>> Yeah.

66:56

>> I mean, he's given so many people

66:58

careers and pumps so many people up.

67:01

I mean, he's he's really that thing,

67:04

that kill Tony thing is also it is in my

67:07

opinion, well, first of all, for our

67:09

club, it's the cornerstone of the club.

67:12

It's one of the most important things

67:13

about The Mothership because having Kill

67:15

Tony at the Mothership every Monday

67:17

night lets all these people that are

67:20

upcoming comedians see what it's like to

67:23

have one minute that you you've polished

67:25

and worked on really well and it kills

67:27

and then you pop and then all of a

67:29

sudden you know it's on YouTube, it's

67:31

got 11 million views and then you know

67:34

maybe it's on Netflix and it's got

67:36

millions and millions of people watching

67:37

all around the world and then all of a

67:39

sudden people come to see you in the

67:40

clubs and you're selling out weekends

67:42

and you're writing and you and then you

67:44

get a golden ticket. You got to do a new

67:45

minute every week. You're a regular. I

67:47

mean, it really

67:48

>> a new minute. My show comes on tonight.

67:51

It's 90 minutes. It might be the longest

67:54

standup special in Netflix history.

67:56

>> Well, your show is like a one-man show.

67:58

It's 90 minutes.

67:59

>> It's a little different, right? I

68:01

haven't seen it, but I've heard great

68:02

things.

68:03

>> Yeah. You're going to love it.

68:04

>> I'm I'm I'm sure it will.

68:05

>> You're really I think you're going to

68:06

like it because it's about us. It's

68:08

about comedy and the community of of

68:10

what we do.

68:12

>> It's a embattled community and it has

68:14

its like detractors and it has a bunch

68:17

of haters and a bunch of [ __ ] in

68:18

it. But for the most part, like as far

68:21

as creative communities, it's one of the

68:23

most supportive communities ever. I

68:26

mean, it's an amazing the community of

68:28

comics, like real comics that are all

68:30

that when we meet up in clubs, it's

68:32

always hug like people think like we're

68:34

all like angry, bitter, like you know

68:38

the tears of a clown. It's not. There's

68:41

a few people like that and they always

68:42

make me sad,

68:44

>> but the reality is like most of us are

68:46

super happy to see each other. It's

68:48

always hugs and laughing and watching

68:50

each other sets and giving each other

68:52

tags and and telling each other like,

68:54

"Oh, that [ __ ] new bit is amazing."

68:56

It's like, it's so supportive.

68:58

>> I was at your club last night and it was

69:00

like, "Oh, comics come in to say hi." I

69:03

brought some extra chicken wings. Jamar

69:05

was there. It was just fun. Moses was

69:07

doing roast battle. I sat in on that.

69:10

Then I went outside, said hi to some

69:11

people, and went upstairs and did a

69:13

spot. It's like

69:16

it's family. I don't have a wife and

69:19

kids to go home to. This is what I do.

69:21

This is the people that I love. The

69:23

comedians are my kids, my cousins, my

69:26

uncles, my aunts, you know.

69:28

>> Well, I do have a wife and kids, but

69:29

it's still my other family. Yeah.

69:32

>> It's like the family of comedians. It's

69:33

like a band of brothers. It's a we and

69:35

sisters. It's like a weird kind of

69:38

friendship that you know, it's like only

69:40

they know what you do. You know, only

69:44

they understand that it's like 10 years

69:46

before you're even any good,

69:48

>> right?

69:48

>> 10 years of being like if you're out

69:51

there and you're headlining a club and

69:53

you're on the road, like you [ __ ] put

69:55

in that work. There's no shortcuts. It's

69:58

impossible to have a shortcut. You just

70:00

got to grind.

70:00

>> I learned long and I learned though over

70:03

time. I don't want a shortcut. I like

70:05

the process. Yes.

70:06

>> That's what I live for.

70:07

>> Oh yeah.

70:08

>> You know, we have a roast coming up May

70:10

10th.

70:11

>> It's not about May 10th. It's about I

70:15

can't wait to hang in the writer room

70:17

again. I can't wait to figure out who's

70:19

coming. I can't wait to figure out the

70:21

seating. Who who we going to make fun

70:23

of? Who's going to who's going to be in

70:25

the front? Uh you know, what am I going

70:27

to wear? It's the It is the grind that's

70:30

exciting.

70:31

>> Yeah. There's no finish line,

70:33

>> right? The finish line doesn't exist.

70:34

You you'll have little finish lines like

70:36

you do a special like your special

70:37

that's coming out.

70:38

>> That's a finish line, but it's only a a

70:42

stop, right?

70:42

>> You're stopping to get water.

70:44

>> But where is the finish line, Joe? Like,

70:45

okay, so I did the Broadway show, then I

70:48

shot it, then I edit it, but now I'm

70:50

here still talking about it, and then in

70:52

a month from now, two months from now,

70:53

someone will stop me at the airport and

70:55

go, "Hey, I was uh my kid was sick. I

70:58

was in the hospital. I watched your

70:59

thing and it made me laugh for five

71:01

minutes when life was. So it ne the spe

71:04

all of it is

71:06

>> there's no finish lines.

71:07

>> No, there's no finish line.

71:08

>> If you're sitting around going,

71:10

>> I hope I win the Oscar. If you're Tom

71:12

Cruz is jealous of George Clooney and

71:14

George Clooney is jealous of Brad Pitt.

71:16

There's no there's no finish line. It's

71:18

all the I have a big neon like you have

71:20

the neon. I have a big neon in my house

71:23

that just says enjoy the process.

71:25

>> Yeah,

71:26

>> that's where I'm at.

71:27

>> Yeah, trust it. trust the process and

71:29

enjoy it. And that's the weird thing

71:31

about when you release a special and

71:34

then you have nothing and then you know

71:36

you have to like scour your brain for

71:39

what you want to talk about. I took like

71:41

a whole month off of standup after my

71:43

last special. I didn't do any standup,

71:46

maybe more than a month. And I just

71:48

thought I said let me just think just

71:50

like no pressure. Let me just think like

71:52

what what is interesting to me? What do

71:54

I want to talk about? instead of just

71:55

rushing to try to put together a new

71:57

hour,

71:57

>> right?

71:58

>> Let me just think for a while.

72:00

>> You know, I'd come to the club every now

72:01

and then and watch watch guys do sets,

72:04

but I didn't do any sets for a while.

72:05

>> I'm in that zone right now.

72:07

>> It's nice.

72:08

>> You know what?

72:09

>> Scary.

72:09

>> When I first

72:11

finished the special, it was years of

72:14

material building to with a throughine

72:17

and a story. And then when it was over,

72:20

I was a little bit lost. Like, I'd go to

72:22

the comedy seller. I was still in New

72:24

York. I couldn't let go of some of the

72:27

and I was like I I need to stop doing

72:29

this material. And then I felt like I

72:31

had no purpose. Like I I didn't want to

72:33

talk about anything. And I said it to my

72:34

buddy Kai and he goes, "Dude, relax.

72:37

You're between albums."

72:38

>> Like he put it in musical sense for me.

72:40

He's like, "You're like a musician

72:42

between albums. Absorb some new things.

72:44

See some movies. Go on a trip. Have some

72:46

new life experiences." Mh.

72:48

>> And then I was like, "Yeah, that's

72:50

probably a break." After doing the same

72:53

thing, the same kind of hunk for years,

72:55

your your your body, your brain, like

72:58

think about something else. Absorb new

73:01

things, download new influences. And

73:04

that's kind of where I'm at. And then,

73:05

of course, Kevin was like, I'll get

73:07

roasted. And I was like, all right, I

73:09

can put standup away for another two

73:10

months and just write that.

73:12

>> Yeah.

73:13

>> Yeah. So, I go back into roast mode,

73:14

which gives me I'm like a dog who needs

73:16

a job.

73:17

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's kind of

73:20

the same thing as your dog. It really

73:23

is. It's like you need a task. If you're

73:25

just doing nothing, like the idea of

73:26

like, oh, one day I'm going to retire

73:28

and just relax. Like, [ __ ] you'll go

73:30

crazy.

73:31

>> Forget we're roasting Kevin Hart.

73:33

>> That's what I heard. Are you supposed to

73:35

say that though?

73:36

>> Yeah.

73:36

>> Are you supposed to talk about it?

73:37

>> I am.

73:38

>> Okay. You're allowed to.

73:40

>> My show.

73:41

>> Okay. Cuz I was told not to tell people

73:43

about it.

73:44

>> We're doing it May 10th, baby. Mother's

73:46

Day live on Netflix.

73:48

>> So, you're officially announcing it?

73:50

>> Yeah.

73:50

>> Okay. I could talk about it now

73:51

>> at the forum.

73:52

>> Because I was told about it, but I was

73:53

told I was not supposed to tell anybody

73:54

about.

73:55

>> I don't know who told you that.

73:56

>> Some people.

73:57

>> No,

73:57

>> they said keep it under wraps. You like

73:59

it?

73:59

>> Oh, it's already a thing.

74:00

>> They announced it this weekend, I think.

74:02

>> Oh, hosted by Shane Gillis. Let's

74:05

[ __ ] go. Nice. That's awesome.

74:08

>> That's awesome, right? [ __ ]

74:10

>> Kevin is so pumped up.

74:12

>> That's awesome. That's going to be fun,

74:14

>> dude. He's out, you know, he's

74:15

>> these Netflix [ __ ] the Tom Brady one

74:18

was insane. That was so good. That was

74:22

so good.

74:23

>> That kind of like juiced comedy back up

74:25

again cuz it was so wild.

74:27

>> It was like the the jokes were so wild.

74:30

It was so raw. Yeah.

74:31

>> And we had gone through this like weird

74:33

period of like people getting cancelled

74:35

for jokes and you know, it's like all of

74:37

a sudden like no

74:39

>> that's out that's gone.

74:40

>> No, no, no. I said to him, I would I've

74:43

been g big game hunting Tom Brady for

74:45

years. It took a couple years. He

74:47

retired, unretired, but I kept him on

74:49

the line. And finally, we were shooting

74:52

promos and I was like, why are you doing

74:54

this? Because I could tell, you know, it

74:57

starting to heat up and some heavy

74:59

hitters were signing on. I go, "Why are

75:01

you doing this? I like it wasn't for the

75:03

money." And he goes, "I want to bring

75:06

comedy back. I'm sick of the woke

75:07

[ __ ] and cancel. I want to make

75:09

comedy like fun again. He understood

75:12

that. And I caught him I caught him on a

75:14

Super Bowl Sunday. He was playing in the

75:16

Super Bowl and I saw him looking at some

75:18

jokes on Instagram that I posted and

75:20

like and I'm like this is where he goes

75:23

to relax. He goes to the roast and I'd

75:26

heard that. So as I was like he won the

75:28

game and I was like I think it's time.

75:30

And then we reeled him in and he did it.

75:33

And I will admit that roast was harsher

75:38

than I expect even I expected.

75:41

>> Vicious.

75:42

>> I mean it was it was a bloodbath.

75:45

>> And I saw Tom the other day and I said

75:47

it's time to take your win. You know he

75:50

was like it was so harsh. It was tough

75:52

on my family. I go I get all that but

75:55

you wanted to do it to bring comedy

75:58

back. You did that. 1.6 billion viewing

76:01

minutes. Emmy nominated against the

76:04

Oscars and the GR like the Super Bowl

76:06

half like

76:06

>> it was the most watched thing in the

76:09

history of Netflix,

76:10

>> right?

76:10

>> You know how nuts that is? Think about

76:12

how many things are on Netflix. That

76:14

roast was the most watched thing in the

76:16

history of Netflix. And it was because

76:18

it was so funny.

76:20

>> It wasn't just because it was Tom Brady,

76:22

which of course made a lot, but it

76:24

wasn't just because all these great

76:25

comics were on it, which of course meant

76:27

a lot, right?

76:28

>> It was It was so good. It was so good

76:30

that people were telling people about

76:31

it.

76:32

>> Yeah. It's and and it's like a great

76:35

Super Bowl. It's going to be around

76:37

forever.

76:37

>> Yes.

76:38

>> Netflix leaves it up.

76:39

>> Oh, like the Charlie Sheen roast we were

76:40

talking about Patrice. Yeah. They're

76:42

always going to be there. It's be there

76:43

forever.

76:43

>> I do think all respect to Tom. I do

76:46

think this one with Kevin and Shane

76:48

Gillis is going to top it.

76:49

>> Really?

76:50

>> I think it's it's not quite a sequel,

76:52

but it's its own thing. It's going to be

76:56

the greatest roast of all time. Netflix

76:58

is the place for roast now because as

77:00

great as Comedy Central was, you had

77:02

restrictions on language and content,

77:04

>> right?

77:04

>> And it was editing.

77:06

>> Yes. Editing.

77:07

>> This is a

77:07

>> and commercials,

77:08

>> right?

77:09

>> Yeah.

77:09

>> Right.

77:10

>> This is buck wild.

77:11

>> The buck wild.

77:12

>> Yeah. Netflix is [ __ ] amazing. I

77:14

mean, what a an insane platform that you

77:17

have. You can never get bored. If you're

77:20

bored in this life, like you're bored.

77:22

You don't have anything to watch. Like,

77:23

are you crazy?

77:24

>> Yeah.

77:25

>> There's so much [ __ ] to watch. Only

77:26

boring people are bored, right? That's

77:28

what they say.

77:29

>> Or people are uninformed. But I mean,

77:31

even in this day and age, you could

77:32

just, you know, do an internet search

77:36

like what's the best roasts on Netflix,

77:38

right?

77:38

>> What are the best dramas on Netflix?

77:40

What are the best shows on Netflix,

77:41

right?

77:41

>> There's always something. That's

77:44

exciting, though.

77:44

>> It's going to be a big one. Yeah.

77:46

Mother's Day. [ __ ] day.

77:49

>> Kevin Hart, there's a guy like I don't

77:50

understand how he has the time to do all

77:52

the things he does. I do not understand

77:54

it. I'm a pretty busy person and I look

77:57

at people like him and I feel lazy. I'm

77:59

like, "How are you doing this?" Right?

78:00

>> How do you have time to sleep,

78:02

>> right?

78:03

>> And I saw him out with his wife having

78:05

drinks two nights last weekend.

78:06

>> He must sleep like four hours a night.

78:08

>> I don't know how he does it. Some people

78:10

are just built different.

78:11

>> Yeah. I mean, well, it's growing up poor

78:14

and realizing that like once this is

78:16

happening for you, like keep your foot

78:18

on the gas. And that guy keeps his foot

78:21

on the gas better than anybody.

78:22

>> Yeah.

78:22

>> And he's ambitious as [ __ ] He's always

78:25

got like some tequila brand and

78:27

releasing this. He had a a vegan

78:29

restaurant chain for a while. Like it's

78:30

just I would have talked him out of

78:32

that. [ __ ] are you doing with that?

78:34

>> Uh well, you know, he's he likes to

78:36

branch out and be a businessman.

78:38

>> Mhm. Yeah. I just I don't understand the

78:41

time. And then in the meantime, he's

78:42

doing arenas at the same time. It's

78:44

like, okay.

78:44

>> And killing.

78:45

>> Yeah. I don't get it.

78:47

>> The roast the roast for him is back to

78:50

his roots.

78:51

>> That's what I love about it. It's like

78:53

the Philly thing talking [ __ ]

78:56

>> Shane's from Philly, so there'll be a

78:57

big Philly angle,

79:00

>> you know, and we got some of his oldest

79:02

buddies coming on. It's going to be

79:04

pretty massive, I think.

79:05

>> That's nice.

79:06

>> Yeah.

79:06

>> Well, you've carved out an interesting

79:08

path for yourself as the roast master.

79:10

>> Yeah.

79:11

>> You know, like you're you're it's like

79:12

an old school skill, you know, that used

79:15

to be a big part of comedy. You know,

79:17

the Friars Club roasts.

79:19

>> Yeah. I miss those Friars Club rows when

79:22

they were just like, you know, sometimes

79:25

they weren't even on TV yet when I was

79:26

doing them. I just bought a a Leroy

79:29

Neman painting from they had an auction

79:31

of old friars memorabilia and Leroy

79:34

Neman painted Henny Youngman surrounded

79:36

and he painted his punchlines like

79:38

around his oneliners around Henny

79:41

holding his violin and he used to sit in

79:43

the dining room at the New York Friars

79:44

and Henny in his wheelchair would sit

79:46

under that painting and for some reason

79:49

it's all up for auction so of course I

79:51

had to grab it.

79:51

>> Oh that's awesome. That's so cool that

79:53

you got it.

79:54

>> Yeah,

79:54

>> that's amazing.

79:56

I miss some of those guys. Think about

79:58

Buddy Hackett. I almost wore a Buddy

79:59

Hacketta t-shirt today. I loved Buddy

80:02

Hackett.

80:02

>> He has a Buddy Hacketta t-shirt.

80:04

>> Somebody made me a Buddy Hacka t-shirt

80:05

and gave it to me.

80:07

>> Yeah, those guys are from a different

80:08

time, you know, different time. No

80:10

television, no nothing. Doing the cat

80:13

skills,

80:13

>> right?

80:14

>> Different world.

80:15

>> They would do each other's acts. They

80:17

would do whatever. Got a laugh.

80:19

>> Yeah. They were assassins on the road.

80:22

It was a totally different life.

80:25

And then if you had a name, like you had

80:27

a name back then, like if you were a

80:29

famous comedian back then, do you rarest

80:31

of rare things? Yeah. How many of them

80:33

were there? There was like 10,

80:35

>> right?

80:35

>> You know,

80:36

>> Shecky, Buddy, Nipy, they all kind of

80:39

Yeah.

80:39

>> Few of those guys.

80:40

>> They're not many left.

80:42

>> No,

80:42

>> they're really all gone now.

80:44

>> Yeah, that's what happens.

80:46

>> That's going to happen to us, buddy.

80:47

>> That's what I hear.

80:49

>> Or better than the alternative.

80:51

>> What? Stay around forever.

80:52

>> No, you either You either keep going or

80:56

you you saw the picture Gilbert, Norm,

80:58

Bob, you know, the alternative is death.

81:01

>> So when I go, I don't want to get old, I

81:02

go, yeah, you want to get old.

81:05

>> Yeah. Um, as long as you keep your body

81:08

moving, you just don't want to be an old

81:11

like completely incapacitated person.

81:15

Like that's especially if it's

81:17

avoidable,

81:18

>> right?

81:18

>> You know what I mean?

81:19

>> I went through it all year. I had I went

81:20

in for a root three weeks after that

81:23

Brady roast. I had a went in for a

81:24

colonoscopy. My buddy Jordan

81:27

had been texting our text chain.

81:29

Everyone's got to get He's like kind of

81:31

a hypochondric. So, I kind of ignored

81:33

it. It's like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

81:35

yeah." I was too busy. I was on the

81:36

road. And then finally, I went in for a

81:39

routine colonoscopy. And I waited too

81:41

long and they found a tumor in my colon.

81:45

And immediately that an hour, two hours

81:48

later was on the phone with a surgeon.

81:52

and stage three

81:55

and

81:56

found a specialist, took care of it

81:58

right away, but never felt doomed.

82:01

>> Have you changed your diet after that?

82:03

>> I don't I'm eating a lot less red meat.

82:06

>> Red meat

82:06

>> now. When I eat red meat, it's like

82:09

going to be the best red meat.

82:10

>> Why is it red meat? Why?

82:11

>> I don't know. I mean, for me, growing up

82:14

in a catering hall in New Jersey around

82:16

pastrami and prime rib, and he said that

82:19

that was a big cause of colon cancer.

82:22

>> Really?

82:23

>> Yeah. And processed foods.

82:24

>> Processed makes sense.

82:26

>> Yeah,

82:26

>> that makes sense.

82:27

>> So, I'm eating a lot less of that.

82:28

>> Yeah.

82:29

>> I moved over to turkey and chicken and a

82:31

little bit of fish

82:32

>> and cut out the processed stuff

82:34

>> as much as I can.

82:35

>> What about alcohol? Did you cut that

82:36

out?

82:36

>> I I I've never been a big drinker.

82:38

>> That's good. Yeah.

82:40

>> Yeah.

82:41

>> Yeah. Uh, it's a little wakeup call when

82:43

you have a health scare. Little wakeup

82:44

call. Time to take care of yourself.

82:46

>> I just had to, you know, I talk about

82:48

this in my show. Like I had my cheop

82:50

port in on Broadway on the show and I

82:54

was like still kind of in it. It's like

82:57

I was having a human experience on

82:59

stage. And just two weeks ago, I had the

83:03

port the chemo port taken out. my sister

83:05

came down to celebrate and hang with me

83:07

and and uh it's like a war prize. Like I

83:11

hold the port where they put the chemo.

83:13

Like I have it on my desk now. And and

83:14

and

83:16

let's just say they take a they put a

83:18

lot more in people than they take out.

83:20

So I feel very lucky. Like survived it

83:23

all. And

83:23

>> damn, I'm glad you're alive.

83:25

>> People die with those [ __ ] ports in

83:27

them.

83:27

>> They do. They Well, they die with

83:29

cancer. That's for damn sure. Colon

83:31

cancer is a very common one. This guy

83:32

James Vanderbeek, younger than me.

83:35

>> I know. I met him. He was a nice [ __ ]

83:37

guy, man. He came to the club, hung out

83:40

with his wife in the green room.

83:41

Sweetest guy. Just such a nice guy. And

83:44

apparently he was struggling back then.

83:46

I didn't know. He looked real thin, you

83:49

know.

83:49

>> So, when you asked me right when you

83:51

walked in, how are you doing? I was

83:53

like, great. You know, like it was a it

83:56

was a pointed question and you asked

83:58

>> politely and innocently and I was like,

84:00

>> "Yeah, I didn't know that you had gone

84:01

through that."

84:02

>> Yeah. Yeah.

84:04

>> God, I haven't really I haven't seen you

84:05

in When? When was the last time I saw

84:06

you?

84:07

>> I saw you in DC. I saw you in New York

84:10

for Kill Tony

84:12

>> briefly.

84:12

>> Yeah. Yeah.

84:13

>> We didn't like sit down and

84:14

>> No, we had a drink. Was it your birthday

84:17

in New York when you were doing Kill

84:19

Tony

84:20

>> or was it here? One of the I think it

84:22

was in August.

84:23

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. But

84:25

then I saw you in DC when you were with

84:26

your family. It was quick. But uh

84:30

I see I feel like I see you because I

84:32

pop into the mothership, but I always

84:34

pop in on the weekends when you're off.

84:37

>> Yeah.

84:37

>> But uh yeah, it was a crazy thing, man.

84:40

I never been sick a day of my life. I've

84:42

always had that like my grandfather used

84:44

to call it world beater energy. Like I

84:46

always felt invincible. Never never

84:49

thought for a second it would be me.

84:51

>> Yeah. And then I did wait too long to

84:53

get a colonoscopy. And they're not a big

84:55

deal. Like guys are afraid of

84:56

colonoscopies because

84:58

>> something's up your butt.

84:59

>> Yeah. But in the end, it really isn't up

85:01

your butt. It's a doctor look checking

85:04

you out. You're out.

85:05

>> They tell you when you wake up, they go

85:07

up your butt, bro.

85:10

>> And get the endoscopy. Especially for

85:12

smokers and stuff like that. And like

85:14

for what for what is essentially like

85:18

>> a one day inconvenience

85:21

>> they can really save your life. It did

85:23

save my life.

85:24

>> Well, I'm glad you cleaned up your diet.

85:26

>> Yeah.

85:26

>> You know, you got to do that cuz I know

85:28

that you are. I mean, I've run into you

85:29

at Cat's Deli before, too.

85:31

>> That's another thing I needed to talk to

85:33

you about.

85:33

>> What?

85:35

>> I forgot all about this till you brought

85:36

it up. Do you remember running into me

85:38

at Cats's Deli with Tony? And

85:42

I guess you must have been in town doing

85:43

standup or something a few this like

85:45

already 10 years ago.

85:47

>> I don't think it was that long ago, was

85:48

it?

85:48

>> I I it was. And I'll tell you how I

85:50

know.

85:53

One of the things when I

85:55

when I got booked on this appearance, I

85:58

said I make make a mental note. I owe

86:00

Rogan an apology. And it's not a big

86:02

deal, but it always kind of bugged me.

86:08

I came in to say hi

86:10

and I was self-conscious because

86:14

I had something wrong with me and I

86:16

didn't know what it was.

86:18

And you said, "What's with your

86:19

eyebrows?"

86:21

And I like I like I like kind of

86:24

shoulder shrugged and you were like, "Is

86:26

it for a roll?" And I was like, "Yeah,

86:27

yeah, yeah."

86:29

>> Oh,

86:30

>> do you have any recollection?

86:31

>> I do. I do.

86:32

>> And I lied.

86:33

>> Yeah. Because I was in

86:34

>> You said I shaved him off for a roll. I

86:36

was like, "Oh, that's crazy. What are

86:37

you playing?"

86:39

>> I I was embarrassed because I had

86:42

alipcia.

86:43

Didn't really understand what was

86:45

happening to me yet. And I You saw the I

86:47

had a big

86:48

>> fro,

86:49

>> big bushy eyebrows. Like I was like the

86:52

Propecia man of the year, you know,

86:57

and

86:59

I don't know what causes it. It's an

87:01

autoimmune thing. It's not

87:03

life-threatening,

87:05

but

87:07

suddenly I looked completely different.

87:09

My fame, like if anyone ever recognized

87:12

me, walking into a restaurant, you know,

87:14

get a good table, skip the line, it was

87:16

all gone. Just suddenly in in within a

87:19

few weeks, I was I remember being at

87:22

Zy's in Nashville and just scratching my

87:24

head and like a big clump of hair came

87:27

out. Then I was on a plane and I was

87:28

like, there's no hair on my leg. What

87:30

the [ __ ] going on? And then within a

87:33

month, me and Adam EGAT and Tony went to

87:38

the barber shop on Melrose. They came

87:40

with me because I was kind of like

87:42

shaken up like what is happening to me?

87:44

Am I dying?

87:44

>> So it happened really quickly.

87:46

>> It happens all within a few weeks.

87:48

>> All your hair fell off within a few

87:50

weeks.

87:50

>> And then when I thought it was done,

87:53

eyebrows started going and I and then

87:56

eyelashes. So, sweat, salt, was like I

88:00

was like, "What the fuck?" And I don't

88:02

even recognize myself.

88:05

And

88:06

>> is there anything they do that reverses

88:07

that?

88:08

>> There's some medications.

88:10

Dr. Drew actually hooked me up with a

88:13

research doctor Brett King at he was at

88:16

Yale at the time in Connecticut and I

88:19

did have some restoration of eyelashes

88:22

and eyebrows but the the side effects

88:26

were a little bit scary and it and

88:31

they lower your immune system a little

88:32

bit.

88:34

So, I did that for years

88:37

and then when I got cancer, I was like,

88:39

"Fuck those meds. I can't do it

88:41

anymore."

88:41

>> Right.

88:42

>> And the chemo, eyebrows, eyelashes gone

88:45

again.

88:45

>> Wow.

88:46

>> And and now I'm literally like hairless.

88:49

Like I have no hair. And you know, you

88:53

learn to live with it. You know, you got

88:55

to channel your inner rockstar.

88:57

>> Listen, there's worse things that can

88:58

happen anymore.

88:59

>> Believe me, I get it.

89:00

>> You know,

89:01

>> right,

89:02

>> more than anybody. But I it always

89:04

dinged me because you and I have been

89:07

friends a long time. We have an honest

89:10

friendship,

89:11

comics, brutal honesty, truth.

89:15

>> And I looked you right in the eyes and I

89:16

was like, "Yeah, yeah." I went with it.

89:18

>> I found out slightly after that that you

89:22

had alopecia from other people cuz

89:24

someone else brought it up and someone

89:26

said, "Oh, he's got alopecia." I went,

89:28

"Oh." I asked him at Cat's Deli and he

89:30

said he shaved his eyebrows off for a

89:32

roll. I just felt like you're probably

89:33

embarrassed. And I totally understood

89:35

like it's weird,

89:36

>> right?

89:37

>> They they say a lot of these autoimmune

89:39

issues uh come from inflammation and a

89:41

lot of inflammation comes from what you

89:43

eat,

89:44

>> right? You know,

89:45

>> doctor would tell me that wasn't true.

89:47

So,

89:47

>> yeah, doctors aren't always right. And

89:49

one of the things they're not always

89:50

right about is nutrition and the impact

89:52

that nutrition has, particularly on

89:54

autoimmune issues.

89:56

>> Very few doctors have any knowledge or

89:58

any education in nutrition and the

90:01

impact it has. I mean, your entire body

90:03

is built out of and reconstructed from

90:06

what you consume, right?

90:07

>> That's the only thing that your body has

90:09

in order to your body makes new cells.

90:12

Your body replenishes cells, recreates

90:14

all the tissue, there's only one way to

90:16

do it. It's got to be what you eat.

90:18

>> Yeah.

90:18

>> It's the only thing. What you drink,

90:19

what you eat, that's it.

90:21

>> And if you're eating a bunch of

90:22

processed stuff that has

90:24

>> a bunch of [ __ ] and preservatives

90:26

and

90:26

>> what causes dealing with inflammation,

90:28

well, a lot of things. Allergies cause

90:30

inflammation. um processed food cause

90:32

inflammation, excess sugar causes

90:34

inflammation, alcohol, there's a lot of

90:36

things that people eat that cause

90:37

inflammation.

90:39

>> But it's really genuinely a thing of a

90:43

balance of, you know, your diet and, you

90:46

know, what your body has to work with.

90:49

you know, if your body doesn't have any

90:50

nutrients to work with, no vitamins, no

90:52

minerals, you know, you're dehydrated,

90:55

you're drinking too much sugar, you, you

90:58

know, things start malfunctioning and

91:00

misfiring. And then, you know, there's

91:03

there's a bunch of different

91:05

consequences for having high

91:06

inflammation diet. And for a lot of

91:09

people, it's sugar. Um, sugar is one of

91:11

the leading causes of inflammation,

91:14

especially in the standard American diet

91:16

because the standard American diet is

91:18

just riddled with excess sugar, corn

91:20

syrup, and [ __ ] and preservatives

91:22

and

91:23

>> your body just after a while just gets

91:25

tired of processing that stuff

91:28

>> and then you start encountering a bunch

91:30

of issues. And uh I know there's a lot

91:33

of autoimmune issues that people have

91:35

had uh success in reversing by

91:38

completely cutting out everything other

91:40

than whole foods. Just eating chicken

91:43

and meat and vegetables and drinking

91:46

water and that's it. Cutting out all the

91:48

[ __ ]

91:50

>> Yeah, I got to do better.

91:51

>> Have you ever gotten blood work done

91:52

where you find out?

91:52

>> Well, now I have to do it all the time.

91:54

>> Do you do you ever get blood work done

91:55

from like a comprehensive laboratory

91:57

that's looking at your nutrient levels

91:59

and all those different things? I don't

92:00

know if I've done that.

92:01

>> We should do that. There's a place in

92:03

town, Ways to Well, I'll send you there.

92:05

>> Yeah.

92:06

>> Yeah. They'll they're really good. I

92:07

mean, they do they take a shitload of

92:09

blood and they do these really

92:10

comprehensive blood panels. They can

92:12

scan for cancer, too, by the way.

92:13

>> Well, that I've done.

92:14

>> Yeah, that's a big one, you know,

92:16

because they can check for any kind of

92:18

cancer in your body.

92:19

>> Well, now that I'm through all that, I'm

92:20

much more open to taking care of myself

92:23

and staying on it. And

92:26

>> the first time I did that one,

92:27

>> the first time I did that one, I was

92:28

like, is a scary one. And I was like,

92:30

boy, I hope I don't have cancer. I don't

92:32

know about it. When it came out, zero, I

92:34

was like, but I do so much to take care

92:37

of myself. I do a sauna every day, cold

92:40

plunge. I take a ton of vitamins. I'm

92:42

always exercising. I eat probably like

92:45

99% clean. Every now and then I'll [ __ ]

92:48

off and or if my daughter makes cookies,

92:50

I'll eat cookies.

92:52

>> But for the most part, I give my body

92:54

cookies. She she's really good. She

92:55

bakes a bunch of different stuff. Today

92:56

was white chocolate chip cookies.

92:58

They're really good. I had one I had one

93:00

this morning.

93:01

>> But for the most part, it's your body

93:04

can only use what you put in it. There's

93:07

no other building blocks. It doesn't

93:09

have anything else,

93:10

>> right?

93:11

>> There's nothing else it can draw from.

93:12

And that's one of the problems is when

93:14

you don't give your body what it needs,

93:15

it starts taking things out of the

93:17

tissue. It starts taking things. That's

93:19

where osteoporosis comes from. Your body

93:21

starts literally taking calcium out of

93:22

your bones.

93:24

you know, you got to give your body the

93:26

building blocks. Without that, it

93:28

doesn't know what the [ __ ] to do.

93:29

>> And slowly but surely, you start to

93:31

deteriorate, you know, and there's a

93:33

giant difference between giving your

93:35

body a nutrient-dense, healthy diet and

93:38

not,

93:39

>> you know, and taking care of yourself

93:41

and exercising and not and and drinking

93:43

much water and electrolytes and not.

93:46

>> There's a giant difference. And it's all

93:47

your body just cannot recreate itself

93:50

correctly. It cannot build itself and

93:52

repair itself correctly unless it gets

93:54

the the the proper nutrients.

93:57

That's where a lot of people's issues

93:58

come from. And doctors don't tell you

94:00

that. Like, um, I had a family member

94:03

that got real sick and the doctor said

94:05

they got cancer and the doctor said, "It

94:07

doesn't matter what you eat." I go,

94:08

"Well, [ __ ] that doctor. That's not

94:10

true. This doctor's telling you you

94:12

could eat cake and just take chemo and

94:14

you'll be fine." That's horshit. That's

94:16

not true. That's not true. Because they

94:17

should, one of the things they should

94:18

tell you immediately is get on a

94:20

ketogenic diet. Cuz one of the things

94:22

that uh has been proven is that cancer

94:24

uses glucose to survive. And you know,

94:27

autophagy, which comes from fasting, is

94:30

one of the best ways that people can get

94:33

rid of errant cells and cells that are,

94:35

you know, misfiring.

94:37

>> Make your body burn off fat. Use ketones

94:40

for energy and and just get rid of all

94:43

the dead cells. Get rid of all the [ __ ]

94:45

that your body doesn't need.

94:47

And if you even want to do that, do

94:48

intermittent fasting, you know, where

94:50

you only have a period of time where you

94:53

eat. Like give yourself like a 16-hour

94:56

window with no food and then start

94:58

eating after that.

94:59

>> But how do you keep your

95:02

How do you not be cranky and lose your

95:04

mind doing that?

95:05

>> Because your body's relying on

95:06

carbohydrates, right? So when your body

95:09

is not relying on carbohydrates and your

95:11

body's burning off ketones, you don't

95:12

have that problem. You don't have that

95:14

crashing problem. The crashing problem

95:16

is from a high carbohydrate diet and

95:18

I've had that before. Look, I'm Italian,

95:20

so it's carbohydrates was my thing. You

95:23

know, it's all about pasta and pizza and

95:25

I love that stuff. I just love it. And

95:28

that's my cheat food. If I'm going to

95:29

cheat, I'm going to eat Italian subs and

95:32

that kind of [ __ ] But

95:33

>> when your body gets accustomed to that,

95:35

first of all, you get a big insulin

95:36

spike. You crash. You get exhausted.

95:39

>> The way to avoid that is to get your

95:41

body to start using fats. And the way

95:44

your body uses fats is that's what you

95:46

give it for fuel and your body adjusts

95:49

and then your body does something called

95:50

gluconneogenesis where it starts using

95:53

meat and protein and turning that into

95:56

glucose. And when you go through this

95:58

process, it's a shaky process at first

96:00

like you get what they call the keto flu

96:03

originally initially rather where you

96:05

you get tired all the time. You're like,

96:07

"Oh, this is exhaust and you work out

96:09

suffer. It's like you have no energy."

96:11

But eventually your body adapts and your

96:14

body just gets accustomed to using fats.

96:17

And when your body gets fat adapted,

96:19

first of all, your brain works better.

96:21

You get an extra gear in terms of like

96:23

your ability to think and communicate.

96:25

And it just feels like you have more

96:27

energy. You don't need naps and you

96:29

don't crash after you eat.

96:31

>> That's why when you're saying like you

96:33

shouldn't eat red meat, I eat mostly red

96:34

meat. That's like most of my diet,

96:36

right? That's like 80% of my diet.

96:38

>> Yeah. Why? I mean, it's an addiction for

96:40

me. I don't think it's an addiction. I

96:41

think it's the most nutrient I think

96:43

it's the most nutrientdense food in the

96:45

world. The problem is processed red

96:48

meat, right? So, if you're eating a

96:49

bunch of processed [ __ ] that has a bunch

96:51

of preservatives in it, yeah, that's not

96:52

good for you. But like a ribeye steak, a

96:55

grilled ribeye steak, there is nothing

96:56

wrong with that. It's one of the most

96:58

healthy foods you can eat. And it has

97:00

everything you need. It has plenty of

97:02

vitamins. It has fat. It has all the

97:04

things that your body naturally knows

97:07

how to process. And people have been

97:08

eating that food from the beginning of

97:11

time.

97:14

>> Yeah. You just got to get educated in

97:15

it. And it's like most people,

97:17

especially particularly most doctors.

97:19

I've had conversations with doctors

97:21

where they've said you get everything

97:23

you need from a balanced diet. And I'm

97:25

like, [ __ ] you. You don't know anything.

97:27

Like how much time did you spend in

97:29

medical school learning nutrition? Was

97:31

it even an hour? Was it a day? Like it

97:34

takes a long time. And there's real

97:37

researchers who have spent decades

97:39

understanding the the balance of

97:42

nutrient-dense foods and vitamin

97:44

supplementation and and what vitamin

97:46

supplementation can cure and fix and

97:48

what's it what it's good for and how to

97:50

balance it out and what vitamins work

97:52

synergistically with other vitamins.

97:54

Like if you're taking vitamin D3, which

97:56

is fantastic for your immune system, you

97:57

have to take it with K2, you should take

97:59

it with magnesium as well. Like you gota

98:01

you got to know these things. And most

98:03

doctors, they just they talk out of a

98:06

they they talk out of a voice of

98:08

authority about something they're not

98:09

educated in, right?

98:10

>> They're educated in getting people in

98:12

and out of their office as quick as

98:13

possible and getting that insurance

98:15

money. And that's what they do.

98:17

>> And most of them, they talk like they're

98:19

authorities. Meanwhile, they have a gut.

98:20

You're sitting there looking at this guy

98:22

who looks like [ __ ] and he's telling you

98:23

about health. Like, bro, you're not

98:24

healthy. Don't talk to me about health.

98:27

This is angry. It makes me angry.

98:29

>> It really does.

98:30

>> I get it. It's it's infuriating because

98:32

it's like these people, you count on

98:34

them as authorities and really they're

98:35

just they're just paying off their

98:37

student debt. They're paying off their

98:39

[ __ ] loans. They they have uh insane

98:41

malpractice insurance they have to

98:42

cover. They have a giant monthly nut and

98:45

they're trying to push pharmaceutical

98:46

drugs on you as much as they can because

98:48

they get compensated for that. And

98:50

that's what they do. And this is the

98:51

standard American health system. It's a

98:53

real problem.

98:53

>> Yeah,

98:54

>> it's a real problem. And it leaves us

98:55

sicker.

98:56

>> You know, this is the thing that RFK Jr.

98:58

is trying to balance. Like we are, we

99:00

spend more money on health care than

99:02

anyone in the world. We make more money

99:04

than anyone in the world. And we're

99:06

sicker than anyone in the world. We

99:08

spend more money than we ever have on

99:09

healthcare. We're sicker than we've ever

99:11

been.

99:12

>> We're living the life. We're eating

99:14

well.

99:15

>> It's not it. So, we're eating [ __ ] You

99:17

know, if we were just eating healthy,

99:19

the people that are just eating healthy

99:21

have way less problems, way less health

99:24

consequences, way less issues, way more

99:26

energy, way more mental acuity, all

99:29

those things because that's how your

99:30

body is supposed to live. For thousands

99:33

and thousands of years, what did we do?

99:35

We ate fruit. We ate vegetables. We ate

99:37

meat and chicken and fish and eggs. And

99:40

that's what you're supposed to eat.

99:41

>> That's real food.

99:42

>> Most of these things that sit on a

99:44

shelf, you're not supposed to eat those.

99:46

Just like your dog, like your dog's not

99:47

supposed to be eating kibble kibble,

99:49

>> right?

99:49

>> You know, feed your dog raw food, your

99:51

dog's gonna go bonkers. Feed your dog

99:53

human grade food, like farmer's dog,

99:55

your dog will go crazy. Watch how she

99:58

eats it. Watch the difference the way it

100:01

>> My dog can't wait. He's dripping water's

100:04

dripping off of his mouth before I feed

100:06

him. He's like sitting there waiting

100:08

like stay. And I'm putting it in the

100:10

bowl. Okay.

100:11

He like attacks it.

100:14

>> Like Jamie, you were saying that about

100:16

your dog, right? Like that Carl like

100:18

when he was eating kibble, he wasn't

100:19

even interested.

100:20

>> Yeah. I I didn't even have Excuse me.

100:22

Never had a chance to even give it to

100:23

him. He would never never ate it.

100:26

>> You just sit there like, "Well, what do

100:27

you how do you You're a How do you Who's

100:30

been feeding you? What have they been

100:31

like? How did they get in your body?"

100:33

But I always give my dog the whole time.

100:35

>> But I give her like turkey, you know,

100:37

putting it. Sometimes if I have turkey

100:38

or chicken around, I'll put it in her

100:40

bowl. I always give her, you know, like

100:42

a cat's deli when you order the

100:43

sandwich, they give you a little piece

100:45

before.

100:46

>> Yeah.

100:46

>> I always get her a little piece to get

100:48

her salivated

100:49

>> and she snaps it.

100:50

>> Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

100:51

>> Yeah. Cuz it's real food. That's what

100:53

people are supposed to be eating too,

100:55

man. We're supposed to be eating real

100:56

food. You know, we got tricked because

100:59

things have to stay in the supermarket.

101:01

You gota you got to be able to sit it on

101:02

the shelf and it's got to be able to

101:03

stay there for a few months. That's how

101:05

you make your profit. That's why milk is

101:07

homogenized and pasteurized. They'll try

101:09

to scare you off raw milk, [ __ ] I

101:11

drink raw milk every week. There's

101:13

nothing wrong with raw milk. You just

101:14

can't get it from a shitty farm. Just

101:16

like you can't get meat that's rotten.

101:18

Just like you can't get sushi that's

101:20

rotten. Just every day. How bad is that

101:22

for me?

101:23

>> Ice cream is actually not that bad. Ice

101:27

cream. When you think about bad things

101:29

to eat, ice cream is probably one of the

101:32

best desserts to eat because ice cream

101:35

has fats from the cream. It has protein

101:38

from the milk and it does have sugar.

101:42

So, you got a little bit of sugar, but

101:44

you're absorbing that sugar along with

101:46

all the fat and all the cream. And it

101:49

probably is way better for you. It's way

101:51

better for you than sugar. Like drinking

101:54

like a soda. Like a soda is the most

101:58

alien form of sugar your body absorbs.

102:02

Your body doesn't know what the [ __ ]

102:03

this is cuz sugar in nature comes from

102:06

like an orange. It has all this fiber,

102:09

you know, and you're you're you're

102:10

eating it and it's a slow digestive

102:13

process. That's why you don't get this

102:14

crazy spike. But orange juice is [ __ ]

102:17

nuts. Like you take all the fiber out

102:20

and now you just have just pure sugar

102:22

water and you think you're being

102:23

healthy. Well, you're not. Okay, look.

102:26

You get a little bit of vitamins from

102:27

the vitamin C that's from the oranges,

102:29

but you're you're not supposed to eat it

102:31

that way. You're supposed to eat an

102:32

orange,

102:33

>> right?

102:33

>> Like apple juice,

102:35

>> right?

102:35

>> Like my daughter's like very conscious

102:36

of like food and like what's in it. And

102:38

she she pul we we went to the

102:40

supermarket and she was going to get an

102:42

apple juice. She's like, "This has 30

102:45

gram of sugar. this little thing at 30

102:47

grams of sugar. Like that's crazy.

102:50

That's just you're just you might as

102:51

well have a Coca-Cola, right?

102:52

>> It's kind of the same thing.

102:54

>> Yeah.

102:56

>> Your body like I think there's a there

102:58

was some paper that was written recently

103:00

about ice cream actually being good for

103:02

you and by far the best of desserts that

103:06

you can eat because it's it's milk and

103:09

cream, you know? It's like there's

103:12

there's actual food in ice cream.

103:14

>> I crave it every night. Ice cream not

103:16

that bad? Look at this. Can ice cream be

103:17

healthy? What recent studies actually

103:19

show. Recent research has sparked debate

103:21

about ice cream's place in a balanced

103:22

diet. By examining long long-term health

103:25

studies, scientists are exploring

103:27

whether moderate consumption may have

103:29

unexpected links to certain health

103:31

outcomes.

103:32

So ice cream has long been regarded as

103:34

classic indulgence rather than a healthy

103:36

food. D. The discussion largely emerged.

103:39

Okay. However, in recent times, some

103:41

surprising research has sparked the

103:43

debate among nutrition scientists by

103:45

saying that consumption of ice cream may

103:47

be related to certain unpredictable

103:49

health outcomes. The discussion largely

103:51

emerged from data analyzed in

103:52

long-running research projects such as

103:54

Nurses Health Study and Health

103:56

Professional Follow-up Study, two major

103:58

epidemiological studies that track diet

104:00

and health outcomes over decades.

104:02

Researchers examined dietary patterns

104:04

among participants with type two

104:05

diabetes. Notice unusual pattern related

104:08

to ice cream consumption. discussion

104:10

earned. Okay, what is the the

104:11

discussion?

104:15

Consuming ice cream more regularly

104:17

sometimes appear to have lower risks of

104:19

certain health conditions, especially

104:21

cardiovascular disease amongst

104:22

individuals who have type 2 diabetes.

104:25

The problem is with um epidemiological

104:28

studies, you're just basically like

104:29

filling out a form as to what you ate

104:32

and they track that with like large

104:33

study groups of people and they try to

104:35

figure out okay that's one of the ways

104:37

they find out like oh the people that

104:38

eat red meat more are are sicker. But

104:41

that's also like what are you eating

104:43

right? You eating burgers that you call

104:45

red meat with sugar with a with a

104:47

Coca-Cola and some fries like cuz that's

104:50

what a lot of people are eating. So,

104:51

it's not like grass-fed steak with a

104:54

salad,

104:55

>> you know? That's not the problem.

104:57

>> Remember Craig who came in here? Craig

104:59

from Craigs. He told me to say hi.

105:01

>> I love Craig.

105:01

>> You said steak and I thought about

105:03

steak.

105:03

>> Oh, he makes a great steak.

105:04

>> That was my joke when I got colon

105:06

cancer. I told Craig, "You're going to

105:07

go out of business if I'm not eating

105:08

your steak."

105:10

>> I don't think you have to stop eating

105:12

steak. I mean, I'm no doctor, but I

105:14

don't I don't think steak's the problem.

105:15

I think all the other shit's the

105:17

problem. I think it's preservatives and

105:19

[ __ ] and processed food. It's just

105:21

not good for you, man. None of it's good

105:23

for you. If it could sit on a shelf like

105:26

that has all these preservatives, that

105:28

stuff wrecks havoc on your gut bacteria.

105:30

When you're consuming things that are

105:32

filled with preservatives, that those

105:34

preservatives are essentially killing

105:36

life. That's what they do. That's how it

105:39

keeps bacteria and mold from growing on

105:41

the food. It's it's a life killer. And

105:44

then you eat it. Go, "Oh, yum, yum,

105:46

yum." Oh, it's preserved, so I can eat

105:49

it. I mean, your your health your

105:51

healthy gut bacteria just gets [ __ ]

105:53

nuked.

105:55

>> Yeah. I don't think it's meat is a

105:57

problem.

105:59

>> Sometime, you know,

106:02

I was on a USO Christmas tour and I ate

106:06

worse on that than I would. And I go,

106:10

"How are the

106:14

Yeah,

106:14

>> that's something they should fix.

106:16

>> That is something they they're trying to

106:17

fix that. RFK Jr. is trying to fix that.

106:19

I like ice cream and shakes and burgers

106:22

and pizza at every base.

106:24

>> Yeah, it's a lot of processed food.

106:26

Yeah, it's terrible food for those

106:27

soldiers. It's terrible. And then you're

106:29

asking them to go to perform in the most

106:31

[ __ ] scary thing on earth, combat.

106:35

>> It made me think, well, maybe it is

106:36

maybe it's all [ __ ] If the military

106:38

is eating the same pizza and pepperoni

106:40

that I'm eating at home, then

106:43

>> they should be more

106:44

>> No, the the what's [ __ ] is the way

106:46

they treat those people. That's what's

106:47

[ __ ] What's [ __ ] is the the way

106:50

they take care of them. That's what's

106:52

[ __ ] What's [ __ ] is the the

106:54

consideration they give to the diet of

106:55

these people,

106:56

>> right?

106:56

>> You're asking these people to make the

106:58

ultimate sacrifice. You're you're giving

106:59

them prison food. That's what's

107:01

[ __ ]

107:01

>> right?

107:02

>> Yeah. It's not Diet's not [ __ ]

107:04

Diet's everything. It is literally

107:07

everything. Like I said, your body has

107:09

nothing else, nothing else that it can

107:12

build itself up with

107:14

>> other than nutrients. It's all it has.

107:17

You consume it. If you don't, you you

107:19

starve to death, right? If you don't

107:21

eat, you starve to death. So, in order

107:23

for your body to take care of itself,

107:24

what are you giving it? It's that

107:26

simple.

107:27

>> You drink a lot of water.

107:29

>> A lot of water. Yeah.

107:30

>> You still drink a lot of coffee?

107:31

>> I drink less. Um, I've been drinking

107:34

coffee later in the day now. Um, I've

107:37

been like going through my day and not

107:38

drinking my first cup of coffee till

107:40

like noon now. I've been doing that a

107:42

lot lately.

107:43

>> Huh.

107:44

>> Yeah.

107:44

>> You don't need it in the morning to get

107:46

going.

107:46

>> Sometimes I feel like I do. I enjoy it.

107:48

I indulge if I enjoy it, but I don't

107:50

like relying on things. I don't like

107:53

having to do things. I don't ever want

107:55

to have that feeling. So, lately I've

107:57

been like, and I've gone days without

107:59

coffee just to see what that feels like.

108:01

Sometimes I feel a little sluggish, but

108:03

there's ways you can avoid that too.

108:05

Like I'll take neutropics, which is a

108:07

brain nutrients, you know, theanine and

108:11

acetylcholine and a bunch of different

108:13

things that'll like there's alpha brain.

108:15

That stuff pumps my brain up and fires

108:17

it up.

108:18

>> It's just you get addicted to caffeine.

108:20

Caffeine is very, very addictive. And uh

108:22

I feel like if I can get my day going

108:24

without it, it's probably better.

108:26

>> Yeah, I drink a lot less. But I see what

108:28

you're saying.

108:29

>> I love it though. Oh, it's great.

108:31

>> I love a cup of coffee. I love it.

108:33

>> I love it.

108:34

>> Uh, and I landed yesterday, Austin

108:36

airport. Like, I needed a coffee so bad.

108:39

I'd been out partying the night before.

108:41

Early flight. I land and you just want a

108:43

cup of coffee before you even start

108:45

seeing your texts because you don't want

108:46

to deal.

108:47

>> And it's like the first place I go to,

108:49

it's like there's a long line. Uh, I

108:52

finally get there and it's like it's a

108:54

kiosk and I'm like, I can't kiosk. I

108:56

need to just tell someone to put coffee

108:58

in a cup and hand it to me. And I go to

109:00

another place and it's like they they

109:03

charge me and then they hand me a cup

109:04

and go go fill it and I walk away. I

109:06

just can't I get so freaking cranky and

109:10

I go to the third place finally. It's

109:12

just like they give you a cup of coffee.

109:14

The kiosk and the the the no employees

109:18

just it all makes me so mad. I want to

109:21

talk to somebody.

109:22

>> Okay. I don't like filling out a

109:24

computer when I want something.

109:26

>> I rarely go to coffee places because I

109:28

drink black coffee and black coffee at

109:31

Starbucks tastes like dog [ __ ]

109:33

>> right?

109:34

>> It's all burnt and tastes terrible. It's

109:36

just not good.

109:37

>> I can drink any coffee. You could take

109:39

old coffee, put it in a microwave, and

109:41

it's the same to me as

109:42

>> really.

109:42

>> Yeah. An espresso that you're

109:44

>> Oh, I like it.

109:45

>> I like this. See, this is French press

109:49

black rifle coffee. You want some? Get

109:51

in there, dog.

109:52

>> That's good coffee. That's real coffee,

109:56

son.

109:56

>> Thank you, brother.

109:59

>> That's coffee.

110:00

>> Cheers.

110:00

>> Taste that. Cheers.

110:03

>> Here's another problem. That's good.

110:05

That's not not bad. Right. If you get

110:07

coffee from Starbucks, you're getting in

110:09

a paper cup. And if you get it in a

110:10

paper cup, it's not paper you're

110:12

drinking out of. It's plastic. Because

110:14

the inner lining of those paper cups is

110:16

basically like a condom,

110:18

>> right?

110:18

>> You ever seen when they break it down?

110:20

Yeah. when they Well, if you add hot

110:22

liquid to plastic, that plastic leeches

110:26

chemicals into your body that are not

110:28

good for you. They're called forever

110:30

chemicals. There it's terrible for you.

110:33

>> So, like every time you drink a hot

110:35

liquid that's in a paper cup, you're

110:37

sucking on plastic residue.

110:40

>> That's gross.

110:41

>> We're gross. There's a lot of things

110:43

that are gross about the American

110:45

lifestyle.

110:47

I mean, if you get coffee from Starbucks

110:49

or something like that, ideally you

110:51

should bring your own cup, bring a mug.

110:54

Bring, you know, like a little one of

110:55

those little yetis, you know? So, it's

110:58

like pouring right into stainless steel.

111:00

That's how you're supposed to drink it.

111:02

But who does that? Who brings a little

111:03

stainless steel?

111:04

>> Not me.

111:05

>> Yeti with them everywhere. Nobody.

111:07

>> Nobody. But if you did that, you you get

111:09

a lot less these [ __ ] microplastics

111:12

in your gut. that also wreck havoc on

111:14

your body, destroy your immune system,

111:16

destroy your endocrine system. It's uh

111:18

they're endocrine disruptors, so it

111:20

stops your body from producing hormones

111:22

naturally, which also can lead to a host

111:24

of different diseases.

111:27

>> Makes me think maybe Charlie Sheen was

111:29

right after all.

111:30

>> Crack.

111:30

>> Smoking crack while getting a [ __ ]

111:32

>> Yeah, that's how to do it.

111:33

>> You don't think he was worried about the

111:35

plastics and the pipe? Well,

111:36

>> there's certain dudes that are built

111:38

different and they could I mean, a lot

111:39

of people that did what Charlie did

111:41

would have already been dead a long time

111:42

ago. He's resilient.

111:47

>> I do hope somebody

111:49

>> puts him in a big movie.

111:51

>> I like your idea.

111:52

>> I like a good comeback story.

111:54

>> Maybe he's due for another roast. I

111:55

don't know.

111:59

>> Be hard now. He's all clean, sober. It's

112:01

like, what did you do 20 years ago? I

112:03

was like, "Yeah." But now he's he's kind

112:06

of doing all right.

112:07

>> Mhm.

112:08

>> He looks good. Looks healthy. He looked

112:09

a lot better than I thought he was going

112:11

to look. Like it doesn't look like a guy

112:13

who's went through 25 years of crack.

112:16

>> And he was sick.

112:17

>> Mhm.

112:19

And what did he have?

112:20

>> HIV.

112:21

>> Oh, yeah. HIV is weird. That's a weird

112:24

one because uh with the medication they

112:27

have now, you don't really you don't

112:29

you're not even testing positive, but

112:31

they just tell you you have it no matter

112:33

what. It's dormant, which doesn't

112:35

totally make sense. There was a guy

112:37

named Peter Dooberg that I had on my

112:39

show a long time ago and uh he was a

112:42

professor out of the University of

112:43

California, Berkeley um and uh just

112:48

brilliant, brilliant guy, groundbreaking

112:50

work on cancer, but he had a very

112:52

controversial take on HIV. And his take

112:55

was he didn't believe that HIV is what

112:57

caused AIDS. He said the fact that you

113:00

have HIV is because your immune system

113:02

is so severely compromised that HIV

113:04

shows up. That was his take on it. and

113:06

he was ostracized.

113:08

>> You got to realize like during the AIDS

113:10

crisis, do you know who was the guy that

113:13

was in charge of the medical

113:15

establishment in this country?

113:16

>> Anthony [ __ ]

113:18

>> Fouchy.

113:19

>> Same guy. And that guy had everybody

113:22

convinced that we're all going to get

113:23

AIDS, we're all going to die, and y'all

113:25

have to take this medication. And one of

113:27

the medications they gave people was

113:28

ACT. problem with ACT was ACT was a

113:32

chemotherapy medication

113:34

>> and it was killing people quicker than

113:36

cancer was. So they stopped using it.

113:37

They repurposed it when AIDS came along

113:39

and they started giving it to AIDS

113:40

people because they didn't have to go

113:44

through this whole process of like

113:47

getting uh a drug certified getting a

113:50

drug to go through the FDA and all they

113:52

already had a drug. So they said, "Well,

113:53

this drug, this will be the drug we use

113:55

for AIDS." But it [ __ ] killed

113:57

everybody they put on it. killed tons

113:59

and tons of people. When they stopped

114:00

using act, people stopped dying.

114:02

>> You know, that's what Dallas Buyers Club

114:04

was all about. It was all about them

114:06

trying that movie with Matthew McConn.

114:08

It was all about them trying to find

114:09

alternative cures. Um, alternative

114:12

medications and being able to access

114:14

alternative medications.

114:16

>> He wanted everybody to use at ACT. And

114:18

he was like,

114:18

>> act the reason why they use it. It's the

114:21

only drug that is both safe and

114:23

effective. It's literally what he said

114:25

back then

114:27

>> in the [ __ ] 80s.

114:29

>> And uh that's the same guy that sold us

114:31

this bag of [ __ ] with the COVID

114:34

origins and and whether or not it was

114:37

gain of function research that caused

114:39

it. He's just creepy [ __ ] guy.

114:43

>> We never really got answers on any of

114:45

this.

114:45

>> We will. It'll take time, but we will.

114:48

And he'll probably be gone by the time

114:50

it's publicly understood. But if you

114:52

read RFK Jr.'s book, The Real Anthony

114:54

Fouchy, it'll open your mind. It'll open

114:56

your eyes. He talks about how they were

114:58

testing out in the uh 1980s, they were

115:01

testing out HIV vaccines on foster kids

115:05

in New York and killing them.

115:08

>> Jesus.

115:08

>> Yeah, they tested it on on foster kids.

115:11

Yeah, that's real. If it wasn't real, he

115:13

would have been sued. He hasn't been

115:15

sued for it.

115:16

>> Wow.

115:17

>> It's a dark book, dude. The real Anthony

115:19

Fouchy. I can't recommend it enough.

115:21

It's a [ __ ] terrifying book. But

115:22

that's the same guy that was a part of

115:24

the movie AIDS thing.

115:27

>> The movie's going to be weird.

115:30

>> Who would play Anthony Fouchy in a

115:32

movie?

115:32

>> Maybe Martin Short.

115:34

>> I think it's another Shawn Penn to

115:36

force.

115:38

>> Sean Penn was all about the vaccine.

115:40

>> Do you miss acting?

115:41

>> Not even a little.

115:42

>> I was thinking that about that the other

115:43

day. You really were in this whole other

115:47

world, Joe.

115:49

call times, makeup, lines, blocking.

115:53

>> Uh, well, I enjoyed working on news

115:54

radio and it was very I felt insanely

115:57

fortunate to be able to work with Phil

115:59

Hartman and Dave Foley and all those

116:01

people on that show, Steven Root, Mora

116:04

Tierney, Lewis, Andy Dick. It was

116:07

incredible.

116:08

>> Candy Alexander. It was an incredible

116:10

cast of people. I mean, I felt super

116:12

super lucky. But once it was over, I'm

116:14

like, I don't think I'll ever be able to

116:15

recreate that because that was like

116:17

optimal. And I had been on a couple

116:19

other shows as a guest. I didn't like

116:22

it. And I was like, this is not what I

116:26

like. I only did it for money, you know?

116:29

It's not my thing. And it's a long

116:31

process, dude. Sit sitcom hours or, you

116:34

know, especially in the beginning days.

116:36

>> It was like 12 16 hour days.

116:38

>> Who wrote that show?

116:39

>> Paul Sims and a bunch of other writers.

116:41

But he was from the Larry Sanders show,

116:44

you know, and um he did Bardwalk Empire

116:46

after that, a bunch of other stuff, but

116:49

brilliant guy.

116:50

>> But that show was just like I c they

116:52

caught lightning in a bottle. I got so

116:55

lucky to be a part of that show.

116:57

>> And I'm like, I could never be on a

116:59

shitty sitcom after that, you know? I

117:02

couldn't be on some [ __ ] you know,

117:05

sloppy

117:07

can canned horseshit show. You went

117:09

highbrow with Fear Factor.

117:11

>> Well, I took that because there was no

117:12

actors. I first of all, I took Fear

117:14

Factor because I thought it was going to

117:16

be cancelled. I thought this is going to

117:17

be give me a lot of material.

117:19

>> Like ran forever

117:21

148 episodes.

117:22

>> Yeah, it was nuts.

117:23

>> Have you seen the new one?

117:24

>> No, I haven't. But, uh, Johnny came on.

117:26

Johnny Knoxville came on to do it. I

117:28

didn't see the Ludicrous one either,

117:30

>> but uh, how long did Ludicrous do it

117:33

for?

117:33

>> I don't know. I didn't even know that

117:34

till now.

117:35

>> Yeah, Ludicrous did it, I think, was it

117:36

on MTV, Jamie? I think he did it on MTV.

117:40

MTV did it for a little while. I think

117:42

he did it for I don't know how long, but

117:45

I love Johnny. Johnny Knoxville is

117:47

great. He's the best.

117:48

>> A true gentleman.

117:49

>> Sweetheart of a guy. And

117:51

>> I love him so much.

117:52

>> I hope it does well. You know, I hope

117:55

they don't hurt anybody. That's the

117:56

problem. Like when Fear Factor came back

117:58

on NBC, um when we came back in 2011, we

118:02

only did six episodes. They were really

118:04

trying to make it bigger and better. I

118:05

was like, "Jesus Christ, we're going to

118:06

[ __ ] kill somebody, right?"

118:07

>> It felt like it. It felt like when it

118:10

was cancelled, I was happy. I was like,

118:12

"Fuck this."

118:14

>> Huh?

118:15

>> You were done.

118:15

>> Yeah. Well, it got cancelled cuz they

118:17

had a drink come.

118:19

>> Do you know that?

118:20

>> No.

118:20

>> You don't know that?

118:21

>> What?

118:22

>> Yeah. Oh, yeah.

118:24

>> Yeah. They played horseshoes to drink

118:26

Donkey Kum.

118:28

>> We still talking about Andy Dick at News

118:30

Radio.

118:30

>> No. No. We're talking about Fear Factor

118:31

now. And Andy only drank People Come.

118:35

He's he's a gentleman. Um but yeah, that

118:39

happened. That's what got the show

118:40

cancelled.

118:42

But that because they were just trying

118:44

to make it as outrageous and pos as

118:46

possible.

118:47

>> It's like the early You were right at

118:48

the beginning of that crazy

118:50

>> This is it. Fear Factor. Donkey juice.

118:52

This is it. They had to play horseshoes

118:55

and uh they drank donkey piss and donkey

118:58

[ __ ] There was three sets of twins and

119:00

one twin had to drink the [ __ ] Look at

119:02

that. That's a mug. O come.

119:05

Oh my god,

119:06

>> it's so foul.

119:08

>> Wow.

119:08

>> Yeah. So, TMZ, I think, got a hold of

119:11

the clip or images and said that Fear

119:14

Factor was doing this and it never aired

119:16

in the United States, but it aired

119:17

overseas. It aired uh somewhere in

119:19

Europe. I want to say the Netherlands or

119:21

in Denmark or some [ __ ]

119:23

>> Wow.

119:24

>> Yeah.

119:25

>> Now, you survived.

119:26

>> Good times. Good times.

119:27

>> Now you're drinking delicious coffee and

119:29

your palatial

119:30

>> hanging out with you, Jeff. Hi, man.

119:32

>> Dude, I've known you since you were Jeff

119:33

Lipshits.

119:34

>> I've known you since your best joke,

119:36

which was um

119:38

>> never trust a hooker with a

119:40

walkie-talkie.

119:43

>> You go, I learned. You were like 25, but

119:45

you're like, I've learned a lot of

119:46

things in my life.

119:47

>> Yeah.

119:48

>> I never trust a hooker with a

119:49

walkie-talkie. Was that the joke?

119:51

>> Um, no. It was I went to college for

119:53

three years. You know what I learned?

119:56

How'd it go?

119:58

Don't trust hooker with walk with

119:59

walkie-talkies. I don't know.

120:01

>> You know me since Jeff li I'm still by

120:03

the way I'm still Jeff Lifolds.

120:06

My ID, my passport.

120:08

>> Maybe you shouldn't tell everybody.

120:09

>> It's all right.

120:10

>> We should hid that.

120:10

>> It's it's it's at this point.

120:12

>> Why did you change it to Ross? What year

120:14

was that?

120:14

>> Oh, I could tell you what happened was

120:18

I got booked on Star Search down in

120:20

Florida. Like my first time on TV, you

120:23

know, we were all starting to get like

120:25

on MTV and Star Search. Those shows were

120:27

coming around.

120:28

>> And I go down to

120:30

Orlando where they were shooting it back

120:32

then and

120:34

um Ed McMahon was the host and he kept

120:38

introducing me by [ __ ] up my arch

120:42

this week's challenger Jeff lip shits

120:45

and I'd walk out and I' it would screw

120:47

me up you know then the next I'd won and

120:50

then the next day it's like this week's

120:52

challenger you know life shots you know

120:55

he would just screw it up every time and

120:58

on the flight home. I was like, I either

121:01

have to if I I really love comedy. I was

121:04

like two years in. I go, let me think

121:07

about this. Ross is my middle name. John

121:10

Stewart was John Lieovitz and he had

121:12

told me he he did it for the similar

121:15

reasons of like no one can sp if I asked

121:17

you to spell lift Schultz right now,

121:18

even you couldn't and you know me 35

121:20

years. So,

121:21

>> right.

121:22

>> So, I was like, "All right, either I'm

121:24

going to have to change my name or my

121:25

whole family's gonna I don't know what

121:27

to do." So Ross, it just made sense.

121:29

>> It's easy.

121:30

>> Yeah.

121:30

>> Yeah, it's easy.

121:31

>> Jeff Ross.

121:32

>> What was Ed McMahon like?

121:34

>> Uh, you know,

121:35

>> did you ever hang out with him?

121:36

>> I shook his hand and that was the end of

121:38

it. I didn't get to know him very well.

121:40

>> I heard he was an animal.

121:41

>> I heard he drank a lot.

121:43

>> Yeah.

121:43

>> But then I made some joke like that and

121:45

people got mad at me online going,

121:47

"Don't disrespect Ed McMahon."

121:49

>> Was he gone by the time you made that

121:51

joke?

121:51

>> Yeah, it was recently because they

121:52

rebooted Star Search just now.

121:55

>> [ __ ] people online. You can't listen to

121:57

that.

121:57

>> Oh, dude. That's another thing Saget

121:59

taught me. Bob Saget, like block the

122:02

haters. Like, you know, we we would

122:04

argue about this because like he would

122:06

block people. And I go, "Well, then they

122:08

know you saw it. Just ignore them. Let

122:11

them float out to sea." He goes, "No."

122:13

He goes, "No, I want them to know that

122:15

they're blocked." He goes, "And I don't

122:17

want them following me. I don't want I

122:19

don't want to say funny things for pe to

122:21

people who say mean things." M

122:23

>> he valued himself.

122:26

>> I say don't read the comments. I say

122:28

don't even pay attention. Let them exist

122:31

in the ether.

122:31

>> Well, you're off social right now. Yeah,

122:34

you told me.

122:35

>> Yeah, I post things, but I post and

122:37

ghost. That's what I tell people. Post

122:39

and ghost. Just post things. It's like

122:41

people know about stuff or something's

122:43

interesting, you know, someone sends you

122:45

something interesting like, "Oh, people

122:46

should know about this,

122:47

>> right?"

122:48

>> That's it. Get out. I gotten better

122:50

instead of using social media. Like

122:54

Seth Green is my neighbor, good buddy of

122:55

mine, the actor, and he he he started

122:58

doing this during the pandemic. Instead

123:00

of texting or liking people's stuff, he

123:02

FaceTimes. It takes longer, but he's

123:05

like, "It's a real connection."

123:07

>> Oh, okay.

123:08

>> He'll FaceTime me, you know, and talk to

123:10

me just even if it's for a minute.

123:12

>> What if you have an Android phone?

123:13

>> Then you're [ __ ] And my friend Benji

123:16

Alalo goes, uh, he he quotes Brody all

123:18

the time. He'll just he'll write he'll

123:21

text me uh emojis. Positive and a check.

123:25

Positive check-in like brother used to

123:27

do. He would just positive check in.

123:28

>> Positive energy.

123:30

>> Positive check in.

123:31

>> God, he was so fun.

123:33

>> Here's another guy who's on my [ __ ]

123:35

contact list that's gone that I miss.

123:37

>> I almost wore my Brody t-shirt today. I

123:40

was thinking about him a lot lately. I

123:42

don't know why.

123:42

>> Enjoy it.

123:43

>> Enjoy it. Has there ever been a comedian

123:45

who's been less famous but more his his

123:49

cadence has been more like remembered?

123:52

It's almost like him and Dangerfield

123:53

have the most memorable deliveries of

123:55

all time.

123:55

>> Well, especially for us, for the guys

123:57

Stevens, I don't know if people know.

123:58

>> Yeah. For the guys who were around him,

124:01

he was so he was just such a unique

124:03

dude. When he would show up at the

124:05

comedy store and pull into the lot,

124:07

everybody smile.

124:09

>> Oh, I when I first met him, I really

124:12

truly hated him. I really hate him. It

124:14

was It was It was literally like the mid

124:17

90s, Joe, like in New York. And

124:21

I can't believe I I haven't thought

124:22

about this in so long. The show that

124:26

It's so funny. The show that's coming

124:28

out tonight, I started developing 30

124:31

years ago. My grandfather died. I live

124:33

with my grandfather. And it was like a

124:35

way to like process it and it was

124:38

emotional.

124:40

And I was doing it at little alternative

124:42

comedy spaces in New York. And I didn't

124:44

know Brody. And Brody would sit in the

124:46

front. He was obsessed with it cuz I was

124:49

like talking about stuff that hit for

124:52

him somehow. And he would sit in the

124:54

front, but he would like like over laugh

124:58

or twitch around at a seat. So then, you

125:02

know, I'm developing this like one-man

125:03

show. It was like different than

125:05

standup. and he's like he would want to

125:07

talk to me about it and he would say

125:09

like weird things that kind of threw me

125:10

off, you know, he would notice the

125:13

differences and I said, "Uh, listen,

125:16

man. Um, HBO's coming to see it next

125:19

week. Um, could you just not be in the

125:21

audience?"

125:23

He, "Oh, okay. I understand. I'm the guy

125:25

who bothers you. I You don't like me. I

125:28

get that." Right. I go, "No, it's not

125:30

that, man. It's just that like you're

125:32

like you're like

125:33

>> 818 till I die.

125:35

>> You're distracting me and I'm not like

125:37

you know I was only doing comedy a few

125:40

years. So then HBO comes and Brody I

125:43

walk on stage and Brody's in the front

125:46

row.

125:48

So afterwards I go, "Dude, what the [ __ ]

125:50

is your problem? I told you not to be."

125:52

He's like, "There were no other seats. I

125:53

couldn't miss it." And our friendship

125:56

grew where we both moved out to LA and

125:58

we became such good friends that I had a

126:00

Comedy Central show. He was the warm-up.

126:03

I had to have him around me all the

126:05

time. I felt safer and better. I think

126:07

we both grew from like

126:10

>> I was a model in Pakistan

126:14

cover of Camel Beat magazine.

126:16

>> Uh I dated an amputee. We met on

126:19

StubHub.

126:22

What is my f? What was the one about the

126:24

uh Nickelback tour jacket? Uh I was at

126:27

the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I saw

126:29

the Nickelback tour. It was in the Lost

126:31

and Found, but still I love Brody. Look

126:34

up Brody Stevens.

126:35

>> Yeah.

126:36

>> I heard you talking about him the other

126:37

day to uh about about his friendship

126:40

with Zack Alifanakis.

126:41

>> Yeah.

126:43

>> Um and that were you there when they did

126:45

the memorial at the Comedy Store?

126:47

>> No.

126:49

>> No.

126:49

>> Had a good line.

126:50

>> I don't like those things. I was

126:52

backstage

126:53

and Brody's like college baseball coach,

126:57

high school baseball coach, and all his

126:59

friends all spoke for like an hour and

127:02

then they bring me out and I go after

127:04

hearing all Brody's friends talk for an

127:05

hour, I'm starting to understand why he

127:07

killed himself.

127:11

>> That's why I don't like those things.

127:13

>> Oh, it was beautiful.

127:14

>> I prefer to mourn people solo.

127:17

>> It was beautiful, actually.

127:18

>> Well, Brody was a beautiful guy. That's

127:21

our world. We got to remember these

127:22

guys.

127:23

>> I know we do. Well, you know, one of the

127:25

good things about podcast is like the

127:26

world gets to understand a lot of these

127:29

people, hear us talk about a lot of

127:30

these people. I think our world is more

127:33

understood now in this day and age with

127:36

the podcast world than I think it's ever

127:38

been known before. More criticized, but

127:40

that's part of the pro. I mean, that's

127:42

part of the process of it. That's

127:43

normal, but also more understood. Like,

127:46

people get it. They get it. It's a weird

127:48

art form. Remember when you had Gilbert

127:50

Godfrieded on? That was great.

127:51

>> Gilbert was awesome.

127:52

>> I don't think he fully understood what

127:54

was happening here, but I remember

127:58

really enjoying your interview with

128:00

Gilbert.

128:00

>> What do you mean you don't think he

128:01

understood? He had done Stern. He had

128:03

done

128:04

>> right. But but he he

128:07

this is Stern is fast and jumping in and

128:10

Jo, you know, like impressions. This is

128:13

more of a conversation which Gilbert

128:14

with in his spectrumy thing,

128:17

>> you know, it's tough. a lot of yes and

128:19

no answers.

128:20

>> I thought he was great.

128:21

>> Yeah,

128:21

>> but I loved him, you know, and he knew I

128:23

loved him. I was always a giant fan of

128:25

his. So, it was like I think it was

128:27

pretty easy.

128:27

>> I wear a Gilbert Godfrey shirt in the

128:29

special.

128:30

>> That's cool.

128:30

>> Ultimate tribute.

128:31

>> He was a sweetheart. Such a sweet guy.

128:34

So [ __ ] funny, too. God damn, that

128:36

guy was funny. I used to love watching

128:38

his sets in New York.

128:40

>> The best.

128:41

>> Especially like in the 90s when no one

128:43

knew who he was. Like, oh my god, he's

128:46

such a killer. one of his last times on

128:49

stage. I was uh at an improv in Florida

128:53

and he came with his family and he came

128:56

on as a surprise guest. He walked out

128:58

and he told this long crazy joke about

129:01

skull [ __ ] his dead grandma.

129:07

So, at his funeral, at his funeral, like

129:09

a year and a half later, I said,

129:11

"Gilbert's comedy was fearless and

129:13

ruthless and subversive, yet he was so

129:15

lovable that he could get us to laugh at

129:18

a joke about skull [ __ ] a dead

129:20

person." And then I looked at his coffin

129:21

and I said, "Not so funny now, huh,

129:23

Gilbert?"

129:26

>> So, I love Gilbert.

129:28

>> We've had the very unique opportunity to

129:31

be around some really truly exceptional

129:33

people. rare rare human beings, you

129:36

know, and so many of them, you know,

129:38

we're we're so rich in our associations

129:41

with so many completely unusual people,

129:44

you know. Here's one more Gilbert story.

129:47

>> Okay.

129:48

>> One time we were roasting Joan Rivers. I

129:50

was producing it and I booked Gilbert

129:53

and I'm on the phone. I'm smoking a

129:55

joint and I go, I got one joke I like

129:57

but I can't do it. He goes, "What is

129:59

it?" I go, "Well, you know, like you

130:02

Kanye West mom had recently died during

130:05

a plastic surgery procedure." It was the

130:08

background. And and uh I go, "Joan

130:11

Rivers, Gilbert, you know, Joan Rivers

130:14

Kanye's mom has a better plastic surgeon

130:16

than you." And uh and uh I go, "But I

130:20

can't do that." And Gilbert goes, "I'll

130:22

do it." And that's when I realized I was

130:25

being a [ __ ] and I had to do it. So I

130:27

did it. So he pushed me. That's awesome.

130:31

>> That's awesome.

130:32

>> He's a really special special guy.

130:34

>> We're lucky dudes, Jeff. We really are.

130:37

We're lucky. And especially now that we

130:38

know all these people that we just

130:39

talked about that were amazing that are

130:41

gone. We're lucky we're still here.

130:42

>> Being a comedian is like a backstage

130:44

pass to the world.

130:46

>> You get to see things you never would

130:49

see as a civilian.

130:50

>> It's true. Really?

130:51

>> Did I just went to cutter?

130:54

Djibouti, Africa.

130:56

>> You were in Djibouti. Were you doing

130:58

Djibouti? did stand up there

130:59

>> for the troops Christmas with the vice

131:02

chairman of the joint chiefs.

131:04

>> Wow.

131:04

>> Saw the Patriot missiles that they're

131:06

using now. I was at two of the bases

131:07

that just got hit

131:10

>> just a few months ago.

131:11

>> Wow.

131:13

>> That's nuts.

131:14

>> You get to see and when you're with the

131:16

vice chairman, you you you're sometimes

131:17

you're on FOBs, they call them, forward

131:20

operating bases. They don't even tell

131:21

you where you are exactly.

131:23

>> Oh wow. You know, you're like 80 miles

131:25

from the Iranian border somewhere in

131:28

Kuwait or Qatar or Jordan.

131:31

>> It's so cool.

131:32

>> Wild.

131:34

You've always done a lot of stuff with

131:35

the troops. You've been doing that from

131:37

way back from like the early 2000s. You

131:41

>> 2003, my first trip to Iraq

131:44

with Drew Carry.

131:45

>> Wow.

131:46

>> Yeah. He took me in 2003. Saddam was

131:48

still alive. I went back in ' 05. I've

131:52

done probably a hundred of those shows

131:54

all over the world. Wow. It's the best,

131:56

man. That's why I'm a comedian. That's

131:59

the best feeling. That's the best

132:02

feeling. They say, "Oh, thanks for

132:03

coming." And I'm like, "Thank you, man.

132:05

This forget that I'm like entertaining.

132:08

You know, you're doing a show for people

132:09

who are star for entertainment." It

132:11

fills me up. Like it it it it

132:15

invigorates me.

132:17

It's just they're not drinking. They're

132:19

the best crowds,

132:20

>> right?

132:22

I highly recommend it.

132:24

>> That's awesome.

132:26

>> All right, dude. Uh, your special is it

132:28

out yet?

132:29

>> Tonight.

132:29

>> Tonight. Look at you. A Netflix comedy

132:33

special. Longest special Netflix ever

132:35

did.

132:37

You got the Bobby Brown microphone on.

132:40

>> I sing.

132:42

I sing a song.

132:43

>> Salty, sweet, sour mix. Look at that

132:45

outfit.

132:46

>> It's a suit of armor. This guy.

132:50

This guy. Poor guy lost his hands in an

132:52

explosion.

132:53

>> Oh jeez.

132:54

>> I asked him why his wife never got

132:56

fingerbanged.

132:59

>> Jesus.

133:00

>> It's a multimedia show about my family,

133:03

about resilience, about bouncing back.

133:06

>> Are those screens on the back wall? A

133:08

bunch of different screens and they show

133:10

different things on them.

133:11

>> Yeah, the dogs.

133:12

>> Oh, that's cool.

133:13

>> You're going to love this show.

133:14

>> I'm sure I'll love it.

133:15

>> It's about some of the stuff we were

133:16

talking about. Like when you take a hit,

133:18

getting back up.

133:21

>> That's awesome. And what's it called

133:23

again?

133:23

>> It's called Take a Banana for the ride.

133:25

When I was an open micer, I would take

133:27

my grandfather to his doctor

133:29

appointments. And then at night, I would

133:31

go in in New York and try to get on

133:33

stage at the open mics and my

133:35

grandfather would give me a few dollars

133:37

for the bus and tolls and a banana. Take

133:39

a banana for the ride.

133:41

>> Kind of his way of saying, "I can't go

133:43

with you, but I'm there with you on the

133:44

ride." I just tattooed a banana with my

133:47

my mom's

133:50

would write I love you or I miss you and

133:51

put them in my school lunches. So I

133:53

found an old letter with her handwriting

133:55

and made a tattoo.

133:57

>> So now I always have a banana.

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This one Eddie Veter drew says born to

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roast.

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>> Oh, that's cool.

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All right, it's out now. Ladies and

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gentlemen, go watch it. Jeff Ross, I

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love you, buddy.

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>> Love you, Rogan.

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>> Thank you. Good to see you.

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>> Bye, everybody.

Interactive Summary

This podcast episode features a conversation between Joe Rogan and Jeff Ross, primarily discussing their dogs and various aspects of their lives and careers. They touch upon the joys and responsibilities of dog ownership, sharing stories about their pets' personalities and behaviors. The conversation then expands to cover a wide range of topics, including the comedy scene, the challenges and rewards of the entertainment industry, personal health journeys, and reflections on life and loss. They also delve into societal issues, the importance of nutrition, and their experiences with the military. The episode highlights their genuine friendship and shared sense of humor as they navigate these diverse subjects.

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