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>> WELCOME TO THE DEBUT OF BLOOMBERG WEEKEND.

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SPECIAL COVERAGE FROM THE WORLD HEADQUARTERS IN NEW YORK.

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CHRISTINA: THERE IS ONE STORY THIS MORNING

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AND THAT IS IRAN. BEFORE WE CAME ON THE AIR, THE

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U.S. AND ISRAEL LAUNCHED JOINT STRIKES ON IRAN.

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IRAN HAS RETALIATED AND THE STRIKES ARE ONGOING AND HERE IS

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THE LATEST. >> BREAKING NEWS ON THE SATURDAY MORNING, PRESIDENT

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TRUMP SAYS THAT U.S. LAUNCHED MAJOR COMBAT

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OPERATIONS IN IRAN.

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>> IT HAS BEEN MASS TERROR AND WE WILL NOT PUT UP WITH IT ANY

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LONGER.

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>> AIRSTRIKES HAVE BEEN CARRIED OUT BY THE U.S. AND ISRAEL.

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RESIDENT MOB -- PRESIDENT TRUMP IS CALLING ON IRANIANS TO

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OVERTHROW THE REGIME AND HE WARNS THAT AMERICANS COULD DIE

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AS A RESULT OF THE OPERATION.

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>> THE LIVES OF COURAGEOUS AMERICAN HEROES WILL BE LOST

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AND WE MIGHT HAVE CASUALTIES.

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>> IRAN RETALIATE SAYING THAT THERE ARE NO RED LINES AND ALL

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TARGETS ARE ON THE TABLE. THERE ARE REPORTS OF STRIKES ON

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AND AROUND THE MIDDLE EAST. CHRISTINA: LET US GET -- DAVID:

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LET US GET STARTED WITH THE LAIUS AND FOR THAT WE GO TO

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LISA MATTEO. LISA:

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PRESIDENT TRUMP IS URGING IRANIANS TO TAKE OVER THE

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GOVERNMENT. THAT IS ONCE THE MILITARY

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CAMPAIGN COMES TO AN END. HE SAID THE MILITARY OPERATION

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BEGAN AFTER IRAN REFUSED TO RENOUNCE NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

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HERE IS WHAT WE KNOW.

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SEVERAL LARGE EXPLOSIONS EXPECT -- SEEN IN THE CAPITAL AND NOW

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SIREN SOUNDED THROUGHOUT ISRAEL AND IRAN STATE MEDIA SAID THAT

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THEY HAD LAUNCHED A WAVE OF MISSILES ATTACKS AND THE ISRAEL

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ARMY HAS REPORTED ATTACKS. THE MILITARY AND DEFENSE

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SYSTEMS WERE OPERATING TO INTERCEPT EVERY ATTACK.

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ISRAEL MEDIA REPORTING A NEW WAVE OF MISSILE ATTACKS ON

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SOUTHERN ISRAEL.

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THE ISRAEL DEFENSE MINISTER IS DECLARING A STATE OF EMERGENCY

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IN THE COUNTRY. WHAT WE ALSO WANT TO SAY IS

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THAT THE U.S. EMBASSY IN BAHRAIN AND QATAR

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HAVE ISSUED SINCE SHELTER-IN-PLACE ORDERS FOR ALL

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OF ITS PERSONNEL AND U.S. CITIZENS IN THE AREA.

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I WANT TO GET TO THE AIRSPACE. ISRAEL AND IRAN HAVE CLOSED

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THEIR AIRSPACE AND THE UAE ENACTED A PARTIAL CLOSER OF ITS

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AIRSPACE AS A PRECAUTIONARY MEASURE AND BLOOMBERG

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INTELLIGENCE AVIATION SAYS THAT TRAVELERS CAN EXPECT SEVERE

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DISRUPTIONS IN THE AREA. THE U.S.

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NAVY ADVISED SHIPS ALREADY IN THE AREA AS WELL, EXERCISE

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EXTREME CAUTION AND BE PREPARED TO RESPOND TO ANY QUERIES.

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AT THAT SAME NOTE WE ARE HEARING A BIT MORE ON BAHRAIN

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WHERE WE ARE REPORTING THAT IRANIAN MISSILE ATTACKS

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TARGETED THE U.S.. NO FURTHER DETAILS ARE

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AVAILABLE. IF WE GO TO OUR LATEST UPDATES.

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AFTER EXPLOSIONS WERE HEARD IN KUWAIT, THE NATIONAL OIL

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COMPANY SAID THAT REFINING AND PRODUCTION ARE PROCEEDING

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WITHOUT INTERRUPTION.

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DAVID AND CHRISTINA, IT IS UNCLEAR WHERE, WHEN OR IF

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PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL SPEAK. HE IS AT HIS RESORT. DAVID:

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THANK YOU. OUR CONTROL ROOM IS TELLING ME

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THAT QATAR SAYS THEY HAVE INTERCEPTED A THIRD WAVE OF

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MISSILES AND WE WILL HAVE MORE FOR YOU ON THAT.

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WE DO HAVE GLOBAL COVERAGE WITH REPORTERS AND ANALYSTS FROM

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WASHINGTON TO TEL AVIV AND BEYOND.

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I WANT TO PLAY YOU SOME OF THE MESSAGE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP

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DELIVERED THIS MORNING IN THE VERY EARLY HOURS OF THE MORNING

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DIRECT TO SOCIAL MEDIA.

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>> WE SAW IT REPEAT -- WE SOUGHT REPEATEDLY TO MAKE A

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DEAL. WE TRIED, THEY WANTED TO DO IT,

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THEY DID NOT WANT TO DO IT AND THEN THEY DID NOT WANT TO DO IT

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AND THEY DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING, THEY JUST WANTED TO

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PRACTICE PEOPLE. IRAN REFUSED JUST AS IT HAS FOR

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DECADES AND DECADES. THEY REJECTED EVERY OPPORTUNITY

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TO RENOUNCE THEIR NUCLEAR AMBITIONS, AND WE CANNOT TAKE

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IT ANYMORE. INSTEAD THEY ATTEMPTED TO

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REBUILD THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND TO CONTINUE DEVELOPING

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LONG-RANGE MISSILES THAT CAN NOW THREATEN OUR VERY GOOD

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FRIENDS AND ALLIES IN EUROPE, OUR TROOPS STATIONED OVERSEAS,

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AND COULD SOON REACH THE AMERICAN HOMELAND.

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JUST IMAGINE HOW IT THIS REGIME WOULD BE IF THEY ACTUALLY HAD

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AND WERE ARMED WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS AS A MEANS TO DELIVER

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THEIR MESSAGE. FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS, THE

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UNITED STATES MILITARY HAS UNDERTAKEN A MASSIVE AND

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ONGOING OPERATION TO PREVENT THIS VERY RATED -- WICKED AND

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RADICAL DICTATORSHIP FROM HURTING AMERICA AND THEIR

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INTERNATIONAL SECURITY

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INTEREST. WE WILL RAZE THEIR MISSILE INDUSTRY TO THE GROUND

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AND IT WILL BE TOTALLY AGAIN OBLITERATED.

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WE WILL ANNIHILATE THEIR NAVY AND ENSURE THAT THE REGION'S

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TERRORIST PROXIES CAN NO LONGER DESTABILIZE THE REGION AND THE

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WORLD AND NO LONGER USE THEIR IED'S OR ROADSIDE BOMBS, AS

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THEY ARE SOMETIMES CALLED SAYS SO GRAVELY WOUNDED AND KILL

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THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING MANY AMERICANS.

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AND WE WILL ENSURE THAT IRAN DOES NOT OBTAIN A NUCLEAR

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WEAPON. IT IS A VERY SIMPLE MESSAGE.

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THEY WILL NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

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THIS REGIME WILL SOON LEARN THAT NO ONE SHOULD CHALLENGE

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THE STRENGTH AND MIGHT OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

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DAVID: JUST PART OF AN EXTRAORDINARY

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EIGHT MINUTE SEGMENT THAT WAS POSTED ON TRUE SOCIAL AND WE

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WILL PLAY MORE OF IT. I AM GOING TO BRING OUR GUESTS

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TO START THE SHOW. WE HAVE PAUL WALLACE, ETHAN

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BRONNER, JOE ON VERSACE AND HERE WITH US ON SET IN NEW

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YORK, THE COANCHOR A BALANCE OF POWER.

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JEFF MASON, LET ME START WITH YOU AND THIS EXTRAORDINARY TURN

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OF EVENTS.

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WE SAW THE DIPLOMATIC TRACK IN PLACE AND WHY DID THE PRESIDENT

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MAKE HIS DECISION WHEN HE DID? JEFF: A COUPLE OF THINGS.

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NUMBER ONE, IN ADDITION TO ANNOUNCING THE NEWS OF THE

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DECISION THAT HE MADE, HE WAS ALSO MAKING A SALES PITCH TO

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THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND POLITICAL BASE, TALKING ABOUT

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WHY HE WAS DOING IT AND GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE DECADES

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IN TERMS OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN IRAN OF THE UNITED

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STATES AND THE TENSION THERE. PRESENTING HIMSELF AS THE

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PRESIDENT WILLING TO DO THIS, COMPARING HIMSELF TO OTHER

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PRESIDENTS, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH AS MO WHEN HE MAKES THE

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DECISIONS. -- BIG DECISION.

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I CANNOT THINK YOU CAN UNDERSTATE HOW YOU SAY THIS IS

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THE BIG THING FOR HIS PRESIDENCY.

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THIS IS A MAJOR MILITARY OPERATION THAT CARRIES HUGE

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POLITICAL RISKS FOR HAM, AND BIG POLITICAL RISKS FOR THE

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MILITARY AS WELL. THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY

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ALONG THOSE LINES, IF A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

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WARNS AMERICANS THAT THERE MIGHT BE CASUALTIES OF U.S.

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TROOPS, THERE IS A REASON. AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE

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QUESTIONS HE HAS NOT ANSWERED IN TERMS OF HAS HE CHANGED HIS

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MIND ABOUT GROUND TROOPS? DOES HE HAVE THINKING BEYOND

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THE ASSETS ALREADY IN THAT REGION?

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THOSE ARE QUESTIONS WE WILL BE ASKING.

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THE FACT THAT HE FLAGGED IT MEANS THAT HE IS PREPARING THE

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UNITED STATES FOR A LONGER WAR. CHRISTINA:

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THE THING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME IS OPENLY CALLING FOR REGIME

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CHANGE. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE HEARD

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FROM HIM. HE TOLD -- HE SPOKE TO THE

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AMERICAN PEOPLE INTO THE IRANIAN PEOPLE SAYING DO NOT

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STAY HERE -- LEAVE YOUR HOMES AND WHEN YOU ARE FINISHED TAKE

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OVER YOUR GOVERNMENT AND IT WILL BE YOURS TO TAKE AND THIS

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IS PROBABLY YOUR ONLY CHANCE FOR GENERATIONS.

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>> THE ORIGINAL JUSTIFICATION FOR MILITARY ACTION WAS TO

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PROTECT THE PROTESTERS. HELP WAS ON ITS WAY AND THAT

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WAS WEEKS AGO. SINCE THEN TENS OF THOUSANDS

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HAVE BEEN KILLED SO THERE IS A BIG QUESTION ABOUT HOW THIS

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WILL BE RECEIVED ON THE GROUND. FOR ANYONE WHO WONDERED IF

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BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO NEEDED A WEEKEND SHOW WE ARE NOT ASKING

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THAT QUESTION ANY LONGER AND I THANK YOU BOTH FOR BRINGING

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THIS TO AIR. WE WILL BE WATCHING CONGRESSIONAL REACTION AS

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LAWMAKERS WAKE UP AND IT DOES APPEAR THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS A

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SUPPORTIVE ROGER WICKER, THE CHAIR OF THE SENATE ARMED

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SERVICES COMMITTEE BUT THERE IS A WAR POWERS RESOLUTION WAITING

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FOR A VOTE.

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SENATOR ANDY KIM JUST A SHORT TIME AGO, "THE SENATE SHOULD

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VOTE ON THE WAR POWERS RESOLUTION IMMEDIATELY."

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THERE WILL BE A CALL TO BRING THAT TO THE FLOOR. DAVID:

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AND THE MINORITY LEADER OF THE HELLS SAYING THAT THEY TEND TO

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VOTE. AND OH MOM -- OMAN'S FOREIGN

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MINISTER SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT YOUR MORE.

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LET US GO TO DUBAI. WE HEARD FROM THE SUPREME

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LEADER THAT ANY ATTACK ON IRAN WOULD KICK OFF A REGIONAL WAR.

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IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE SEEING THAT.

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GIVE US THE LATEST THAT YOU ARE HEARING AND SEEING. JOUMANNA:

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IT IS A TENSE DAY. WE WOKE UP IN THE MORNING WITH

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NOTHING HAPPENED OVERNIGHT AND THE ASSUMPTION THAT WHEN WE

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WENT TO SLEEP YESTERDAY THAT IF IT WOULD BE MILITARY ACTION IT

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WOULD HAPPEN IN THE EVENING WHICH HAPPENED WITH THE 12 DAY

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IRAN AND ISRAEL BORE A YEAR AGO LAST JUNE.

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BUT THIS TIME IT WAS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IN THE EARLY HOURS OF

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THE MORNING IT SEEMED AS THOUGH ISRAEL HAD LAUNCHED THE ATTACKS

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ON IRAN. SEVERAL EXPLOSIONS WERE HEARD

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IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY ANTI-RON. -- TEHRAN.

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THE U.S. CONFIRMED THAT THEY HAD PARTICIPATED AS WELL, AND NOT

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SO LONG AFTER THAT YOU GOT A VERY SWIFT IRANIAN RESPONSE.

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THIS IS ANOTHER BIG DIFFERENCE TO THE LAST BIG WAR, THE 12 DAY

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WAR. IT TOOK A COUPLE OF DAYS FOR

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IRAN TO ORCHESTRATE THE RESPONSE.

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THIS TIME AROUND THEY WERE READY TO GO AND FIRED BACK AT

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U.S. BASES AROUND THE GULF.

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I AM TALKING ABOUT QATAR, BAHRAIN, KUWAIT, ABU DHABI WITH

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EXPLOSIONS OCCURRED IN VARIOUS OF THOSE BASES AND CITIZENS

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WERE RECEIVING FIRING WARNINGS AND WARNING THEM THAT AN ATTACK

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WAS IMMINENT. MOST OF THE MISSILES AND DRONES

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THAT WERE FIRED AND DIRECTED AT THE GULF STATES AND THE BASES

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WERE INTERCEPTED AND WE HAVE HEARD OF ONE CASUALTY IN ABU

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DHABI PROBABLY HIT BY SHRAPNEL. I WILL SAY THAT THE STRIKES ARE

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ONGOING AS WE SPEAK. WE HEARD ANOTHER STRIKE

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DIRECTED TOWARD STILL HOT AND ALSO THE BASES IN IRAQ.

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IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT THIS WAS NEVER GOING TO BE A JUST U.S.

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AND IRAN WAR. THERE WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE

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THE RISK OF BROADER REGIONAL INVOLVEMENT AND WE ARE VERY

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MUCH IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT RIGHT NOW WITH THE ATTACKS ON

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ISRAEL AND THE ATTACKS ON THESE VARIOUS UAS -- U.S. BASES.

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DAVID: THAT WAS -- CHRISTINA: THAT WAS A CONCERN WITH ALLIES

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AND PEOPLE CLOSER TO THE PRESIDENT BECAUSE A CONFLICT IS

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UNLIKELY TO STAY BETWEEN THESE TWO.

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WE ARE SEEING REPORTS OF HITS THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND WE

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ARE TRYING TO ASSESS THOSE AS THEY TRICKLE IN.

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WE WILL VERIFY THAT AS SOON AS WE CAN.

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ETHAN, I WANT TO GO TO YOU, LIKE MANY PEOPLE, MY PHONE RANG

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AT 1:30 A.M. WITH A SOURCE IN TEL AVIV

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TELLING ME THEY DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING BUT THEY

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WERE GETTING RED ALERTS ON YOUR PHONE TAKE SHELTER AND THIS IS

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PROACTIVE. CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH YOUR

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MORNING WHAT YOU HEARD AND SAW AND HOW THIS UNRAVELED ON THE

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GROUND. ETHAN: CERTAINLY.

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AT THAT EXACT HOUR WE HAVE SIRENS GOING OFF.

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I AM HERE IN TEL AVIV. IT WAS A: 30 OUR TIME.

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AND I AM NOW IN MY SAFE ROOM, WHICH IS THE PART OF MY

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APARTMENT WHICH IS REINFORCED WITH CONCRETE AND IT HAS METAL

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FOR THE WINDOW AND A METAL DOOR. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY IF A MISSILE

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HITS MY BUILDING I AM NOT GOING TO SURVIVE, BUT ANYTHING 100

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METERS AWAY OR SO, THE IMPACT WILL BE PROTECTED FROM.

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SO PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO HAVE ACCESS TO SUCH A PLACE

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ARE IN IT.

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MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE IN SUBWAY SYSTEMS AND UNDERGROUND

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PARKING AREAS. THERE HAS BEEN ALL DAY LONG

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SIRENS AT THE NORTH AND SOUTH. SO FAR, ACCORDING TO OFFICIALS

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IN THE LAST HOUR I HAVE HEARD, ONLY ABOUT 40 MISSILES HAVE

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LANDED, AND THERE IS A RANGE OF PREDICTIONS ABOUT HOW BAD IT

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WILL GET, I WAS JUST LISTENING TO ONE ANALYST SAY THIS IS JUST

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THE BEGINNING. THEY WILL HAVE CRUISE MISSILES,

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BALLISTIC MISSILES AND DRONES AND IT WILL GO ON AND GET ROUGH.

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OTHERS ARE SAYING THAT IN ISRAEL AND THE U.S.

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CHOSE TO ATTACK NOW IS BECAUSE THE IRANIANS HAD SUFFERED A LOT

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IN JUNE AND COULD NOT REBUILD ENOUGH TO REALLY COME BACK AT

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THESE GUYS. WE SHALL SEE.

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IT IS CERTAINLY A VERY BIG DAY IN THIS CONFLICT.

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AND, THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THEY ARE NOW TALKING RELATIVELY

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OPENLY ABOUT REGIME CHANGE, AND SORT OF ASSERTING THAT THESE

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ATTACKS ARE GOING TO ENCOURAGE IRANIANS TO RISE UP AGAIN IN

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THE STREETS. A CONTROVERSIAL NOTION.

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TYPICALLY WHEN A FOREIGN POWER ATTACKS A COUNTRY, PEOPLE RALLY

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AROUND THE FLAG RATHER THAN AGAINST THEIR GOVERNMENT.

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BUT THAT CALCULATION IS THAT IT MIGHT BE OTHERWISE. DAVID:

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PAUL, LET ME TURN TO YOU TO LONDON AND YOU HEAD UP THE

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MIDDLE EAST COVERAGE. WE IT IS -- WHAT IS THE SENSE

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THAT THIS MIGHT PLAY OUT. WE HEARD A CALL FOR THE MEETING

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OF THE UN SECURITY COUNCIL TO GET SOME SENSE OF WHAT IS GOING

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TO HAPPEN GOING FORWARD? WHAT IS THE LATEST ON THE SENSE

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OF TIMETABLE? PAUL:

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THE SENSE IS THAT THIS CANNOT BE A SHORT DAY IS LONG CAMPAIGN

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IF TRUMP IS SINCERE AND HE IS EFFECTIVELY CALLING FOR REGIME

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CHANGE, AND CALLING FOR IRANIANS TO TAKE OVER THEIR

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GOVERNMENT'S AND WHEN THEY GET THE OPPORTUNITY.

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IF THAT IS HIS AIM, AND WE LISTENS TO AND YOU PLAYED CLIPS

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OF HIS VIDEO FROM MAR-A-LAGO AND TIM TALKING ABOUT

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DESTROYING IRAN'S NAVY AND ITS BALLISTICS PROGRAM COMPLETELY,

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IF THAT IS HIS AIM, HE WILL NOT ACHIEVE THAT IN A MATTER OF

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DAYS. WE COULD BE LOOKING AT

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SOMETHING THAT TAKES MORE THAN A WEEK PERHAPS, EVEN SEVERAL

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WEEKS. THAT IS THE THINKING. THIS IS BIGGER AND LOOKS BIGGER

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THAN WHAT WE SAW LAST YEAR IN JUNE WHEN ISRAEL STRUCK IRAN

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AND STARTED A 12 DAY WAR, WHICH THE U.S. JOINED AT THE END.

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CHRISTINA: I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOU

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BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAD GOING INTO THIS IS THE

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TRUMP ADMINISTRATION MADE A BOLD CLAIM AND SAID THAT THEY

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HAD DESTROYED IRAN'S NUCLEAR SITES IN THE LAST ATTACK, SO

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WHAT ARE THE TARGETS AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING AFTER?

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DO WE KNOW WHAT THEY HIT OR WHAT THEY ARE AIMING FOR?

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AND I WANT TO ASK YOUR TAKE ON THE CALL FOR REGIME CHANGE.

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THE U.S. DOES NOT HAVE A GREAT HISTORY.

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DO WE HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT IT COULD BE MORE SUCCESSFUL?

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JOUMANNA: LET ME START WITH THE FIRST

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PART WHICH IS WHAT WE UNDERSTAND THE FIRST WAVE OF

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STRIKES WERE ACTUALLY DIRECTED TOWARDS PERSONNEL AND

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INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS, THE INTELLIGENCE HEADQUARTERS, LESS

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SO MILITARY INFRASTRUCTURE. AS THE DAY PROGRESSED IT SEEMED

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THAT THE LATER STRIKES WERE ALSO TARGETING MILITARY

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INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL. FROM THE WARNING STRIKES WE

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UNDERSTAND THAT THEY TARGETED A KEY AREA, ONE OF THOSE KEY

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LOCATIONS WITHIN IRAN AND -- WHERE THEY DO HAVE A NUCLEAR

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CENTRIFUGE AND THE CAPABILITIES THAT ARE SOME POINT FIRING OR

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NOT. THAT IS ALSO VERY PERTINENT TO

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THE DISCUSSION. AND WE HAD EVEN REPORTED AND WE

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PUT OUT A PIECE ABOUT THIS. ABOUT SATELLITE IMAGERY

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SUGGESTING THAT IRAN WAS LOOKING TO RECONSTITUTE PART OF

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THAT NUCLEAR REACTOR SYSTEM, SO IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THAT WAS ONE

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OF THE SITES. IN TERMS AS WHO IS ACCOUNTED

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FOR AND WHO IS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR, WHAT WE UNDERSTAND SO FAR

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IS THAT THIS IS PER THE NEWS PUT FORWARD BY THE SEMI

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OFFICIAL IRANIAN NEWS AGENCIES. THE PRESIDENT AND FOREIGN

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MINISTER HAS BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR. WE DO NOT KNOW YET ABOUT THE

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SUPREME LEADER HIMSELF -- HIMSELF, AND WHETHER HE IS

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FULLY SAFE OR HAS BEEN INJURED. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE

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IS WATCHING FOR VERY CLOSELY FOR CONFIRMATION.

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I THINK WHAT IS CLEAR, FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP'S SPEECH

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OVERNIGHT AND THE VIDEO HE POSTED AND HE IS EXPECTED TO

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SPEAK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS WE WILL GET MORE COLOR ON

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WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. IT IS SOMETHING MORE THAN WHAT

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THEY WENT FOR WHICH WAS A SURGICAL LIMITED STRIKE ON THE

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NUCLEAR FACILITIES. HE IS DIRECTLY SPEAKING TO THE

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PEOPLE LIKE WHAT ETHAN WAS SAYING AND SEES THIS AS AN

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OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE CHANGE. NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO REGIME

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CHANGE, THAT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT IS EASIER SAID

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THAN DONE. WITHIN IRAN, THERE IS AN

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UNDERSTANDING AS WELL, THE AYATOLLAH IS 86 YEARS OLD AND

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THEY HAVE BEEN PREPARING FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF HIM NO

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LONGER BEING THERE. THEY HAVE ACTUALLY THOUGHT

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ABOUT A SERIES OF SUCCESSORS AND WHAT TO DO WITH THE

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GOVERNING STRUCTURE SHOULD HE NO LONGER EXISTS.

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IT IS NOT AS EASY AS REMOVING A FIGUREHEAD AND REPLACING IT

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WITH SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN CUTTING A DEAL WITH THE NEW

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LEADERSHIP SIMILAR TO THE VENEZUELAN MODEL.

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IT IS A MUCH MORE CHALLENGING SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

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IT IS A POPULATION OF 90 MILLION, BUT NOT HOMOGENOUS.

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AND AT THE SAME TIME YOU HAVE A CHUNK OF 200,000 SECURITY

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FORCES THAT ARE VERY ALIGNED AND -- AND IDEOLOGICALLY

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OPPOSED TO CUTTING A DEAL WITH THE UNITED STATES. DAVID:

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I WANT TO GET MORE INTO THE PRESENT THINKING'S GOING INTO

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THIS AND YOU SAID HE TALKED ABOUT THE GRAVITY OF U.S.

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FORCES GETTING INVOLVED AND LET US SEE WHAT HE HAD TO STAY --

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TO SAY.

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>> MY ADMINISTRATION HAS TAKEN EVERY POSSIBLE STEP TO MINIMIZE

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THE RISK TO U.S. PERSONNEL IN THE REGION.

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EVEN SO, AND I DO NOT MAKE THIS STATEMENT LIGHTLY, THE IRANIAN

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REGIME SEEKS TO KILL. THE LIVES OF COURAGEOUS

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AMERICAN HEROES MIGHT BE LOST, AND WE MAY HAVE CASUALTIES,

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THAT OFTEN HAPPENS IN WAR. WE ARE DOING THIS NOT FOR NOW,

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BUT WE ARE DOING THIS FOR THE FUTURE. IT IS A NOBLE MISSION.

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CHRISTINA: THAT IS REALLY REMARKABLE.

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DAVID: I AM CURIOUS HOW HE HAS AND

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WILL CONTINUE MAKING THAT CASE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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WE LISTEN TO THE STATE OF THE UNION AND IRAN HAD REALLY IN

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THE BROAD SCOPE OF THAT TWO HOUR SPEECH AT A GLANCING

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MENTIONED. -- THIS IS RATCHETING UP WHAT

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WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT ABOUT WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION'S OBJECTIVES

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ARE. NOW THAT WE HAVE THESE REMARKS

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AND WHAT WE SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE GROUND, YOUR

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SENSE OF HOW THIS HAS EVOLVED AND WHAT A TAP -- APPETITE IF

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ANY IF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HAS FOR THIS KIND OF ADVENTURISM.

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JEFF: HIS POLITICAL BASE DOES NOT

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HAVE APPETITE. WHEN HE WAS REFERRING TO

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POLITICAL RISK AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW, THAT IS ONE OF THE

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BIG QUESTIONS FOR HIM.

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THE PRESIDENT IS HEADING INTO MIDTERM ELECTIONS THIS NOVEMBER.

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IF THE WHITE HOUSE, PARTICULARLY HIS CHIEF OF STAFF

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WANTED HIM TO BE FOCUSED ON THE ECONOMY.

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HE WAS IN TEXAS TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND ENERGY.

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THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS AMONG FOLKS

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AROUND HIM, AND AMONG HIS POLITICAL BASE THAT HE WAS

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SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME ON FOREIGN POLICY.

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HERE HE IS NOW MAKING A CHOICE TO START A WAR.

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THIS IS NOT UNITED STATES SUPPORTING ISRAEL AT WAR WITH

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IRAN BUT A U.S. WAR, AND HE IS USING THE

20:21

LANGUAGE AND TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL CASUALTIES.

20:27

THIS IS NOT JUST SUPPORTING AN ALLY, THIS IS BEING PART OF IT

20:28

AND BEING THE AGGRESSOR. AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE SALES

20:35

PITCH AND TALKING ABOUT WHY AND SUGGESTING THAT THE UNITED

20:38

STATES MIGHT HAVE BEEN AT RISK BECAUSE OF THE MISSILE

20:41

TECHNOLOGY. I THINK YOU WILL CONTINUE TO

20:43

HEAR THAT AND HE WILL CONTINUE MAKING HIS CASE.

20:47

THE RISKS AGAIN POLITICAL AND CERTAINLY TILL LIVES.

20:52

AND LISTENING TO EVEN TALK ABOUT THE SAFETY MEASURES THAT

20:56

HE HAS TO TAKE IN ISRAEL RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT WILL

21:01

HAPPEN IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL LIVES LOST, BOTH FROM ALLIES

21:02

AND AMERICAN TROOPS AS WELL. CHRISTINA:

21:07

THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TRACKING

21:08

NEGOTIATIONS IN GENEVA AND INDIRECT TALKS OF THE U.S.

21:13

AND IRAN ARE IN DIFFERENT ROOMS AND THE MESSAGING COMING OUT OF

21:19

THE MEETING FROM THE OMANIS WAS THAT THIS WAS GOING WELL, THAT

21:23

THEY HAD SOMEWHAT OF AN AGREEMENT AND ONE OF THE THINGS

21:26

THEY HAD AGREED TO IS TO GIVE UP THEIR NUCLEAR WEAPONS

21:32

PROGRAM. AND THAT WAS PROGRESS BECAUSE

21:36

EVEN IN THE JCPOA THAT WAS NOT IN CLEAR TERMS AND THAT SEEMS

21:39

LIKE A BIG HURDLE THAT HAD BEEN OVERCOME AND THEN THEY WERE

21:41

SCHEDULED TO DO TECHNICAL TALKS AND THEN THE STRIKE HAPPENED.

21:45

WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT? WAS A U.S. SERIOUS ABOUT THESE

21:46

NEGOTIATIONS? JOE: THAT IS SUCH A GREAT QUESTION

21:49

AND NOBODY KNOWS OUTSIDE OF STEVE WITKOFF, JARED KUSHNER

21:53

AND DONALD TRUMP. THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE ON THE

21:57

PRECIPICE OF SOMETHING THAT COULD AMOUNT TO A BREAKTHROUGH.

22:02

THIS HAS BEEN THE MO FOR TRUMP, 10 OR 15 DAYS AND WE HAVE A

22:04

MEETING ON THE BOOKS AND THEN MISSILES START FLYING.

22:07

THAT IS THE TIMING OF HIS CHOICE.

22:09

THIS IS GOING TO GET MORE DIFFICULT, POTENTIALLY WHICH

22:12

EACH DAY. -- WITH EACH DAY. POLITICALLY SPEAKING THIS IS

22:16

ABOUT DURATION. WHAT STEVE BANNON GOING TO BE

22:21

SAYING ABOUT THIS? WHAT ARE MAGA CANDIDATES GOING

22:26

TO BE SAYING? REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO

22:30

MAINTAIN A MAJORITY ON CAPITOL HILL AND MANY REPUBLICANS HAVE

22:31

NO APPETITE TO BE STARTING A NEW WAR.

22:36

ADD THAT TO THE EXTENDED DEPLOYMENT THAT WE ARE SEEING

22:38

FOR THE USS GERALD FORD WHO HAS BEEN AT SEA FOR 11 MONTHS AND

22:42

THEY ARE HAVING PLUMBING PROBLEMS AND SAILORS ARE IN

22:45

LINE FOR THE BATHROOM. THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR MORALE.

22:49

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ANALYSIS, WHAT WE ARE PAYING JUST TO

22:54

MAINTAIN THESE TWO CARRIERS, SALARIES AND GAS AMOUNTS TO

22:55

ALMOST $30 MILLION A DAY. THAT IS BEFORE ONE MISSILE IS

22:58

SHOT. DAVID: THESE WERE STRIKES THAT WERE

23:05

POINT -- PUT OUT BY E THE U.S. AND ISRAEL.

23:08

LET US SEE WHAT BENJAMIN NETANYAHU SAID ON THE HEELS OF

23:10

THESE FIRST STRIKES THIS MORNING?

23:17

>> ISRAEL AND THE UNITED STATES LAUNCHED A JOINT CAMPAIGN,

23:21

OPERATION LION'S ROAR. IT IS TO PUT AN END FROM -- TO

23:26

THE THREAT OF THE AYATOLLAH REGIME.

23:30

THE IDF IS ATTACKING TARGETS OF THE OPPRESSIVE REGIME AND

23:34

FACILITIES OF THE REVOLUTIONARY GUARD ALONG WITH THE UNITED

23:37

STATES MILITARY TARGETING BALLISTIC MISSILE SITES THAT

23:38

THREATEN ISRAEL AND U.S. FORCES. THE OPERATION WILL CONTINUE AS

23:42

LONG AS NECESSARY. DAVID:

23:48

I ASKED ABOUT HOW THE PRESIDENT'S THINKING IS ON THIS.

23:53

LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT HOW THE PRESIDENT WAS CONVINCED BY

23:56

PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU'S FEELINGS ABOUT THIS.

23:58

WE SAW HIM IN THE U.S. A FEW DAYS AGO MEETING WITH THE

24:01

PRESIDENT AND CONVEYING TO HIM THAT HE WAS NOT ENTHUSIASTIC

24:04

ABOUT THE U.S. PURSUING DIPLOMATIC TALKS WITH

24:05

IRAN AND SWITZERLAND. TALK ABOUT THAT EVOLUTION IN

24:10

THE CASE THAT HE WAS MAKING AND HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT FROM

24:11

YOUR VANTAGE. PAUL: LOOK, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT,

24:17

IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND THIS PLACE WHERE I AM LIVING, THE

24:21

IDEA OF WAR IS NOT CONSIDERED THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN.

24:26

THE SURVIVAL OF THAT GOVERNMENT IS CONSIDERED A MUCH MORE

24:29

DANGEROUS LONG-TERM SITUATION THAN A RELATIVELY SHORT-TERM

24:32

WAR. I AM NOT OFFERING MY VIEW. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE PEOPLE

24:36

HERE. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT

24:44

PRESIDENT TRUMP SEEMS TO HAVE AGREED THAT THE FUTURE OF THE

24:47

UNITED STATES AND ITS ALLIES ARE BETTER SERVED BY DOING THIS.

24:51

I UNDERSTAND THAT WITHIN THE UNITED STATES IT FEELS LIKE A

24:55

DEEPLY POLITICAL QUESTION BUT IT FEELS LIKE A GEOSTRATEGIC

24:57

ONE HERE IN THE SAME WAY THAT HE TOOK OUT MADERO IN VENEZUELA.

25:04

THE IDEA THAT IF YOU ARE A RICH COUNTRY THAT IS AN ENEMY OF --

25:08

THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT UNITED STATES ON TRUMP WANTS TO

25:09

DO SOMETHING ABOUT. THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT FROM

25:16

ISRAEL'S PERSPECTIVE YOU HAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT BY

25:21

AROUND ON ITS PROXIES LIKE HAMAS, AND OCTOBER 7 ONE HAMAS

25:23

ATTACKED ISRAEL SO BRUTALLY. FROM ISRAEL'S PERSPECTIVE, TO

25:31

GET RID OF IRAN AND THIS REGIME IS SO CLEARLY IN THE INTEREST

25:32

OF IT AND THE UNITED STATES. AND THAT IS THE CASE THAT HE

25:35

MADE TO THE PRESIDENT. THIS COUNTRY WAS NOT A

25:40

DIFFICULT CASE TO MAKE AND THIS IS NOT A NETANYAHU PROBLEM.

25:46

MUCH OF THIS COUNTRY IS GRATEFUL FOR THE UNITED STATES

25:47

TO BE DOING THIS. IT IS PROBABLY A MAJORITY BUT

25:51

IT IS CERTAINLY NOT A MAJORITY. CHRISTINA:

25:56

I JUST WANT TO SAY ON OUR AUDIENCE ON YOUTUBE,

25:57

INTELLIGENCE AND DIGITAL THAT VIDEO IS FROM THE IDF.

26:03

PAUL, I WANT TO ASK YOU, WE ARE TRILL -- STILL TRYING TO SORT

26:08

OUT THE LEVEL OF COORDINATION BETWEEN THE U.S. AND ISRAEL.

26:14

I AM LOOKING ABOUT STORIES FROM OUR REPORTING TEAMS THAT THE

26:17

STRIKES WERE PLANNED FOR A WEEK -- FOR MANY WEEKS.

26:20

IF THAT IS THE CASE AND THE STRIKES HAVE BEEN PLANNED OUT

26:22

FOR MANY WEEKS THIS GOES BACK TO MY PREVIOUS QUESTION, WAS

26:26

THE U.S. EVER NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH

26:27

WITH IRAN? PAUL:

26:33

THAT IS THE BIG QUESTION, AND THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PLENTY

26:37

OF DOUBTS ABOUT HOW SINCERE THE U.S.

26:40

WAS BEING, BUT IT SAID THAT IT DID WANT THE TALKS TO RUN THEIR

26:43

COURSE AND FURTHER TALKS TO BE GIVEN A CHANCE.

26:47

I MEAN, BOTH THINGS COULD BE RIGHT.

26:50

OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS MILITARY PLANNING GOING ON IN THE

26:54

BACKGROUND. THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN MILITARY

26:57

PLANNING GOING ON SINCE THE JUNE 12 DAY WAR, AND ALSO THE

27:00

U.S. AND EVEN THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST ON TOP OF THE

27:05

EXISTING MILITARY PLANNING THAT TOOK PLACE.

27:11

AND, EVEN WHILE, YES, THESE TALKS WERE GOING ON AND THE U.S.

27:18

WAS KNOCKING OUT -- PUTTING OUT A HUGE NUMBER OF FORCES IN THE

27:21

MIDDLE EAST REGION AND NOW WITH THESE TWO AERIAL CRAFT -- AIR

27:25

CARE -- AIRCRAFT CARRIER GROUPS THERE AND A LARGE NUMBER OF AIR

27:31

-- WARPLANES AND REFUELING PLANES AND NOW HAS ITS BIGGEST

27:35

EXPEDITIONARY FORCE IN PLACE ANYWHERE SINCE THE 2003 IRAQI

27:36

INVASION. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING WHY

27:39

WOULD YOU DO THAT? IF YOU DID NOT PLAN TO USE IT

27:43

IN SOME WAY? AND THIS WILL BE PEOPLE'S

27:50

QUESTION FOR TRUMP WITH REGARDS TO THAT.

27:55

IRAN ITSELF WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TAKEN COMPLETELY BY SURPRISE BY

27:56

THE STRIKES THIS MORNING.

28:02

IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT HAS LONG WARNED THAT IT WILL BE READY AT

28:05

A MOMENTS NOTICE TO RETALIATE AGAINST U.S.

28:09

STRIKES, AND THAT HAS PROVED CORRECT WITH A VERY SWIFT

28:12

NUMBER OF COUNTER STRIKES ON ISRAEL AND U.S.

28:17

BASES IN QATAR, BAHRAIN, THE UAE AND THINGS.

28:21

THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WONDERING IF THE TALKS WERE A

28:28

SHAM TO LULL IRAN INTO SOME KIND OF SENSE OF COMPLACENCY,

28:32

AND THERE WILL BE PEOPLE SAYING THAT TRUMP PLANNED THESE

28:36

STRIKES ALL ALONG, OR AT LEAST SINCE AROUND A MONTH AGO WHEN

28:40

HE TOLD THE IRANIAN PEOPLE DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE

28:42

PROTESTS THAT HELP WAS AT HAND. DAVID:

28:46

LET ME TURN TO YOU ON THIS ISSUE OF DUELING EXISTENTIALISM.

28:51

YOU HAD THE PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL COUCHING THIS IN

28:53

EXISTENTIAL TERMS AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE OUT THE IRANIAN REGIME

28:57

AND YOU LOOK AT THE RHETORIC THIS MORNING CHARACTERIZING

28:59

THIS AS A FIGHT BEING EXISTENTIAL. JOUMANNA:

29:03

CHRISTINA: NOTHING IS OFF LIMITS AND THE

29:06

TARGETS -- NO TARGETS ARE OFF THE TABLE. DAVID:

29:09

CAN YOU TELL US THE PERILS OF THAT? JOUMANNA:

29:13

I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE QUESTION YOU ASKED PAUL IS THAT

29:15

WHETHER THE U.S. WAS ENGAGING IN THIS IN GOOD

29:16

FAITH. I WOULD ALSO ADD THE NAME OF

29:22

THE IRANIANS AND WONDER IF THEY WERE ENGAGING IN THESE

29:23

NEGOTIATIONS OF FULL FAITH AND GETTING TO A DEAL.

29:26

THE FACT THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO RESPOND SO QUICKLY AS WAS -- IS

29:31

BECAUSE THEY WERE PREPARING MILITARILY FOR THE POSSIBILITY

29:34

OF AN ATTACK. BOTH SIDES WERE VERY AWARE.

29:38

THEY WERE OF AWARE OF THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE WOULD

29:43

NOT BE -- NOT HAVE A BREAKTHROUGH AND THAT IS

29:45

INTERESTING GIVEN THE RHETORIC COMING OUT OF THE MEDIATOR

29:46

YESTERDAY.

29:54

THERE IS NO DENYING THAT THE IRANIANS ARE IN A MUCH WEAKER

29:55

POSITION THAN A WE ARE -- THAN A YEAR AGO.

30:04

THIS IS AN EXISTENTIAL SITUATION FOR THEM.

30:09

JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE

30:13

POSSIBILITY OF AN INTERNAL REGIME CHANGE.

30:16

PROTESTERS WERE BRUTALLY PUT DOWN BY THE REGIME.

30:26

THAT IS ACTUALLY THE ORIGIN FOR WHY -- ORIGINALLY THE PURPOSE

30:31

WAS TO BRING HELP TO THE DEMONSTRATORS ON THE STREETS.

30:35

IT IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.

30:40

THE IRANIANS WANTED ONE THING WHICH IS SURVIVAL.

30:44

THE INTRINSICS OF THAT IS SANCTIONS RELIEF BECAUSE THE

30:48

SANCTIONS HAVE CRIPPLED THE ECONOMY. THE CENTER OF THESE

30:53

DEMONSTRATION IS BECAUSE THE ECONOMY IS ON ITS RIGHT NOW.

30:57

RAMPANT INFLATION, GDP IN A STATE OF DECLINE.

31:03

VERY UNHAPPY YOUNGER POPULATION, RISING UNEMPLOYMENT.

31:07

THERE WAS A LOT OF SOCIOLOGICAL PRESSURE ON THE REGIME.

31:12

IDEOLOGICALLY WHAT UNDERPINS THEIR PHILOSOPHY IS THIS

31:16

RESISTANCE WHICH IS KEY TO WHAT THEY HAVE TRIED TO CREATE A

31:20

OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES, RESISTANCE IN THE

31:24

REGION OPPOSED TO THE VERY EXISTENCE OF ISRAEL.

31:29

THE SAME SECURITY OFFICIALS THAT WILL REGULARLY SAY "DEATH

31:34

TO AMERICA," FOR THEM HAVING ANSWERS TO THE

31:38

ARSENAL OF BALLISTIC MISSILES AND THE CAPABILITY TO FIRE UP

31:42

THEIR NUCLEAR WEAPONS IF THEY NEED TO DO SO IS INTRINSIC TO

31:43

THEIR IDENTITY. CHRISTINA: SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

31:51

WE WANT TO TELL OUR AUDIENCE THAT THE ASSOCIATED PRESS IS

31:54

SAYING THAT ONE OF THE STRIKES TOOK PLACE NEAR THE OFFICE OF

31:57

THE SUPREME LEADER. THAT IS SIGNIFICANT.

32:00

WE ARE NOT SURE WHAT THE RESULTS OF THE STRIKES WERE.

32:04

IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED THAT SOME OF THE

32:06

STRIKES HAVE LANDED CLOSE TO THAT FACILITY. DAVID:

32:13

JOE, YOU INVOKE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WAR POWERS

32:16

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE LEGACY OF WHAT HAPPENED IN VENEZUELA

32:19

AND THE ATTACK THAT WE SAW ON IRAN.

32:22

I AM CURIOUS WHAT YOU WILL BE LISTENING FOR FROM LAWMAKERS

32:26

THIS MORNING AS YOU CONSULT YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA FEEDS TO SEE

32:28

WHAT THEY ARE SAYING. ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC THAT THERE

32:32

WILL BE A COALESCING MESSAGE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS THAT IS

32:34

DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN? JOE:

32:39

I THINK THE QUESTION WILL BE WILL THERE BE A REPUBLICAN

32:42

JAILBREAK BECAUSE THE WAR POWERS RESOLUTION WILL LIKELY

32:44

GET TO THE FLOOR. MIKE JOHNSON WILL ISSUE A

32:47

STATEMENT PROBABLY WITHIN THIS PROGRAM AT SOME POINT THIS

32:50

MORNING THAT WILL GIVE US A SENSE OF WHERE HIS MIND IS.

32:55

HE AND JOHN THUNE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO A NUMBER OF

32:59

LAWMAKERS INCLUDING TIM KAINE IN THE SENATE.

33:02

WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH LAWMAKERS INCLUDING DON BACON AND THE

33:05

CONGRESSMAN FROM NEW YORK. THERE ARE DIFFERENT PIECES OF

33:09

LEGISLATION THAT CAN LEAVE THIS HERE.

33:11

KEEP IN MIND WE SAW REPUBLICANS

33:18

ACROSS THE AISLE ON HEALTH CARE PREMIUMS AND TARIFFS.

33:23

IS THERE A MAGA FRIENDLY GROUP OF REPUBLICANS OR FREEDOM

33:26

CAUCUS THAT DOES NOT WANT TO SEE THIS WAR?

33:27

I WOULD SUGGEST YES. CHRISTINA:

33:33

THIS IS ALSO DIFFERENT FROM A TARGETED STRIKE.

33:35

WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM THE PRESIDENT, THIS IS GOING TO BE

33:36

A MUCH LONGER CAMPAIGN. PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO KEEP

33:40

FOCUSED ON AFFORDABILITY AND DOMESTIC ISSUES.

33:46

JOE: AUTHORIZATION OF THE USE OF FORCE IS LIKELY JUSTIFIED IN

33:51

THIS CASE. IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

33:52

DURATION, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS

33:58

TALKING ABOUT. DAVID:

34:00

JEFF, YOUR SENSE FROM YOUR REPORTING, AN EXTRAORDINARY

34:01

STATEMENT WE SAW THE PRESIDENT POST ONLINE.

34:03

PERHAPS YOU WOULD LET THAT SPEAK FOR ITSELF IN THE HOURS

34:08

AHEAD. JEFF: IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT

34:11

THE STATEMENT WE HAVE SEEN IS ONE THAT HE POSTED.

34:12

HE DID NOT SPEAK IN FRONT OF A GROUP OF REPORTERS.

34:16

THAT WAS NOT LIVE. I AM NOT EXPECTING THEM TO DO

34:19

ANY LIVE COMMENTS BUT HE COULD ALWAYS DO ANOTHER STATEMENT.

34:21

DAVID:

34:28

WE WILL SAY GOODBYE TO PAUL, JOUMANNA. PLEASE STAY SAFE.

34:33

OUR COVERAGE WILL CONTINUE WITH JOE AND JEFF ON SET.

35:06

>> THE U.S. AND ISRAEL HAVE LOST AN ATTACK

35:09

ON IRAN. MULTIPLE PROVINCES HAVE BEEN

35:11

HIT. IN A VIDEO ON TRUTH SOCIAL THE

35:13

PRESIDENT SAID THE OBJECTIVE WAS TO DEFEND THE AMERICAN

35:14

PEOPLE.

35:18

>> IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES IN

35:23

PARTICULAR LIGHT ADMINISTRATION THAT THIS TERRORIST REGIME CAN

35:24

NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

35:32

>> SOURCES TELL US THAT U.S.-ISRAEL STRIKES HAVE

35:36

ALREADY TARGETED MISSILE SITES THAT COULD STRIKE THE PERSIAN

35:37

GULF. PRESIDENT TRUMP URGED IRANIANS

35:39

TO TAKE OVER THE GOVERNMENT WHEN A MILITARY CAMPAIGN COMES

35:39

TO AN END. NETANYAHU AND PRESIDENT TRUMP

35:45

SAYING THAT THE JOINT STRIKES ARE TO REMOVE AN EXISTENTIAL

35:50

THREAT AND THAT IRAN MUST BE DENIED ACCESS TO NUCLEAR

35:55

WEAPONS.

35:55

HE CALLED ON IRAN TO REMOVE LEADERS OF THEIR REGIME.

36:01

TEHRAN ALSO TARGETED A U.S. BASE WITH EXPLOSIONS HURTING

36:03

QATAR KUWAIT AND QATAR.

36:12

QATAR SAID THE INTERCEPTION -- SAID THEY INTERCEPTED ATTACK

36:12

FROM THEIR TERRITORY. RUSSIA'S FOREIGN MINISTRY

36:18

CALLING THE ATTACK ON IRAN A PREPLANNED AND ON ACT OF ARMED

36:21

AGGRESSION THAT VIOLATED INTERNATIONAL LAW.

36:23

WE WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED THROUGHOUT THE MORNING. DAVID:

36:27

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LOOKING AT THAT LIVE BLOG THAT

36:35

LISA JUST MENTIONED, IRAN APPEARS TO BE DELEGATING POWERS

36:37

TO LOCAL AUTHORITIES TO KEEP THE STATE FUNCTIONING.

36:41

THAT IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE STATE NEWS SERVICE.

36:43

WE ARE TRYING TO GET A PICTURE OF WHAT THE SITUATION IS ON THE

36:45

GROUND IN IRAN. CHRISTINA:

36:51

THE LONG-STANDING QUESTION ABOUT COMMAND AND CONTROL

36:53

ESPECIALLY THE IRGC. HERE THEY ARE ACTIVELY

36:58

DELEGATING CONTROL AND THAT COMMAND DECISION TO DIFFERENT

37:00

GROUPS IS INTERESTING AND WOULD BE CONCERNING IF I WERE AT A

37:02

U.S. INSTALLATION RIGHT NOW. DAVID:

37:06

WE WILL KEEP TRACKING THAT AS HE LOOK TO HOW THIS IS

37:07

HAPPENING IN THE UNITED STATES. WE WILL GO TO MAR-A-LAGO WHERE

37:12

THE PRESIDENT RECORDED THAT STATEMENT THAT WAS RELEASED IN

37:14

THE EARLY MORNING HOURS. SEVERAL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS

37:19

WAKING UP EARLY TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND WEIGH

37:20

IN ON WHAT HAS HAPPENED. CHRISTINA:

37:25

WE WILL GO TO BLOOMBERG'S WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT WHO WAS IN

37:29

MAR-A-LAGO WITH THE PRESIDENT AND OUR CONGRESSIONAL REPORTER

37:32

IN WASHINGTON, D.C. COURTNEY, WE ARE A LITTLE

37:34

CONFUSED ABOUT HOW THIS ALL WENT DOWN.

37:36

IT SEEMS LIKE THIS VIDEO JUST POPPED UP.

37:40

NORMALLY THERE IS A PROCEDURE FOR THIS, A STATEMENT OF THIS

37:42

CONSEQUENCE WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING WARD TO THE AMERICAN

37:46

PUBLIC AND IS DONE IN FRONT OF REPORTERS.

37:50

WHERE THERE ANY JOURNALISTS IN THE ROOM?

37:52

HOW WERE YOU INFORMED THAT THE VIDEO WAS POSTED? COURTNEY:

37:57

WE WERE INFORMED JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

37:59

WE WOKE UP TO THE NEWS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

38:03

WE HAD NOT BEEN INFORMED THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS GOING TO

38:04

RECORD THIS VIDEO. WE ARE STILL WAITING TO HEAR

38:07

FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. OUR CALL TIME TO GATHER FOR US

38:12

TO GO OVER TO MAR-A-LAGO HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK TWICE SO FAR.

38:16

WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THEM ABOUT ANY PLANS FOR A PRESS

38:20

CONFERENCE. IT SEEMS THAT THEY ARE SO FAR

38:25

LATE IN -- LETTING THE MESSAGE THAT THE PRESIDENT DELIVERED ON

38:26

VIDEO PLAY OUT. DAVID:

38:32

WE SAT DOWN WITH HAKEEM JEFFRIES YESTERDAY AND IN THAT

38:35

CONVERSATION WE ASKED ABOUT THE PROSPECTS OF THE U.S.

38:37

GOING TO WAR AND THE PLANS THAT HE HAS FOR A VOTE ON THE WAR

38:40

POWERS RESOLUTION.

38:50

LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT HE HAD TO SAY AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS ON

38:51

THE OTHER SIDE.

38:56

>> WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS RECLAIM OUR AUTHORITY AS A

38:59

SEPARATE AND COEQUAL BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.

39:00

UNFORTUNATELY OUR REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES HAVE DECLINED.

39:02

>> HOW DO YOU DO THAT?

39:06

>> WE CAN DO THAT BY BEGINNING TO ACTUALLY BRING LEGISLATION

39:09

TO THE FLOOR THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE VALUES OF OUR FRAMERS.

39:14

THEY GAVE THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES THE AUTHORITY

39:17

AS IT RELATES TO APPROPRIATIONS BECAUSE THEY KNEW TAXATION AND

39:22

SPENDING WERE PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT AND THE HOUSE WAS THE

39:24

CLOSEST INSTITUTION TO THE PEOPLE.

39:26

THEY ALSO GAVE US THE AUTHORITY AS IT RELATES TO TRADE AND

39:30

TARIFFS AND THEY GAVE US THE AUTHORITY AS IT RELATES TO THE

39:32

POWER TO DECLARE WAR. UNFORTUNATELY OVER TIME WE HAVE

39:39

SEEN AN EROSION OF CONGRESS EXERCISING THAT AUTHORITY.

39:42

OUR COMMITMENT ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS TO REGAIN

39:47

THAT.

39:47

>> CAN YOU DO ANYTHING TO STOP A PRESIDENT WHO DECIDES TO TAKE

39:48

MILITARY ACTION LIKE THIS?

39:50

>> WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN ON BEHALF OF THE

39:53

AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CLEARLY KNOW

39:57

THAT THE LAST THING WE NEED AT THIS MOMENT, WHEN THEY ARE

40:03

LITERALLY STRUGGLING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN PAYING RENT, BUYING

40:06

GROCERIES OR GETTING TO GO SEE A DOCTOR WHEN THEY NEED ONE,

40:09

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE IN THIS COUNTRY.

40:10

THE LAST THING WE NEED IS ANOTHER FAILED FOREIGN FOREVER

40:18

WAR WHICH CERTAINLY WOULD BE THE OUTCOME IF DONALD TRUMP

40:21

DECIDES TO GET US ENTANGLED IN IRAN IN THE MIDDLE EAST. DAVID:

40:25

COMMENTS FROM THE MINORITY LEADER IN THE HOUSE BEFORE THE

40:29

PRESIDENT LAUNCHED THESE ATTACKS.

40:30

WE HAVE BEEN SIFTING THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND REACHING

40:32

OUT TO CONGRESSIONAL OFFICES FOR REACTION.

40:36

YOU CAN HEAR THE CIVICS LESSON THAT THE MINORITY LEADER MADE

40:38

AT THE TOP. IT WOULD STRIKE A LOT OF

40:40

AMERICANS AS NOVEL IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE HAVE SEEN.

40:42

HOW HAS THE CONVERSATION SHIFTED ON THE HILL IN THE FEW

40:45

HOURS THAT THE SUN HAS BEEN UP IN WASHINGTON, D.C.?

40:48

>> WE ARE SEEING PREDICTABLE REACTIONS FROM THE LEFT AND THE

40:50

RIGHT. WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE

40:52

CENTER.

40:58

THE PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS CALLING FOR A MEETING VOTE AND TIM

41:00

KAINE CALLING FOR A SENATE VOTE. BASICALLY DEMOCRATS POINT TO

41:05

WHAT HAPPENED IN THE VENEZUELAN SITUATION WHERE THERE WAS A

41:06

SUCCESSFUL SENATE VOTE.

41:12

VENEZUELAN WAR POWERS THEIR RESOLUTION INITIALLY AND THE

41:14

TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CHANGED SOME OF THEIR TACTICS.

41:17

THEY CALLED IT THE SECOND STRIKE THAT NEGOTIATED WITH

41:23

MARCO RUBIO BEFORE THE SENATE TO EXPLAIN HIMSELF.

41:26

WE ARE SEEING A STATEMENT FROM MARK WARNER, THE INTELLIGENCE

41:29

TOP DEMOCRATS SAYING THAT WE NEED JUSTIFICATION AND THIS

41:31

ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO COME FORWARD AND FULLY BRIEFED

41:33

CONGRESS AND SAY WHY THEY ARE DOING THIS.

41:39

THIS MIDNIGHT VIDEO IN A GOLF HAT BY THE PRESIDENT IS NOT

41:40

SUFFICIENT JUSTIFICATION. THE STATE OF THE UNION BARELY

41:46

MENTIONED IRAN. THEY WANT TO HEAR MORE AND WE

41:49

WANT TO FIND OUT IF THESE VOTES WILL GO FORWARD NEXT WEEK IN

41:52

THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE ON A WAR POWERS RESOLUTION.

41:55

THE PRESIDENT CAN VETO THE ORIGINAL WAR POWERS RESOLUTION

41:58

WAS NOT ABLE TO BE VETOED. BUT IT COULD PUT PRESSURE ON

42:02

HIM TO LIMIT THE STRIKES IF THERE IS A STRONG SHOWING FROM

42:03

REPUBLICANS SHOWING THAT THEY ARE NOT ON BOARD WITH THIS.

42:05

DAVID: THAT IS ERIK WASSON WHO COVERS

42:08

THE NEWS AND COURTNEY SUBRAMANIAN WHO COVERS THE

42:11

WHITE HOUSE. SHE IS IN MAR-A-LAGO WITH THE

42:15

PRESIDENT COVERING HIS MOVEMENTS OVER THE COURSE OF

42:18

THESE NEXT TWO DAYS. CHRISTINA: THANK YOU TO YOU BOTH AND THANK

42:21

YOU FOR ANSWERING OUR EMAILS VERY EARLY THIS MORNING.

42:25

WE HAVE MICHAEL ALLEN JOINING US THIS MORNING.

42:28

HE SERVED UNDER PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH.

42:31

WE WANT TO START WITH YOU. I AM WONDERING WHAT YOU THINK

42:35

THE AIM OF THE STRIKE WAS. THERE IS A SUGGESTION THAT THIS

42:43

WAS AN EFFORT TO DECAPITATE IRAN'S LEADERSHIP WHICH IS

42:44

SOMETHING THE U.S. HAS SO FAR AVOIDED IN THESE

42:45

STRATEGIC STRIKES. WHY DO THAT NOW AND DO WE THINK

42:50

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE? MICHAEL:

42:55

I AM A LITTLE SURPRISED MYSELF HOW EXPLICIT PRESIDENT TRUMP

43:00

WAS IN HIS REMARKS, CALLING OUT THESE REVOLUTIONARY GUARD CORPS

43:04

AND TRYING TO SET THE CONDITIONS FOR REGIME CHANGE.

43:09

HE WENT BACK TO HIS ORIGINAL JUSTIFICATION TO GET INVOLVED

43:14

IN IRAN. REMEMBER WEEKS AGO WHEN HE SAID

43:17

WE WERE LOCKED AND LOADED AND READY TO HELP THE PROTESTERS.

43:21

IT IS REMARKABLE THAT HE SAID PLEASE, PEOPLE STAY IN YOUR

43:26

HOUSES FOR NOW BUT WHEN THE BOMBING IS OVER, YOU SHOULD GO

43:27

BACK AND TAKE OUT YOUR GOVERNMENT.

43:29

IN A SENSE THIS IS CLASSIC TRUMP .

43:32

GO BIG AND THAT IS WHAT HE HAS DONE. DAVID:

43:37

I'M CURIOUS OF WHAT THIS SAYS ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF THE IRAN

43:43

PROJECT AND THE IMPLICATIONS FOR REGIME CHANGE.

43:44

THERE IS HOPE FOR IT. SOME HAVE BEEN AGITATING FOR

43:48

THIS KIND OF MILITARY ACTION. WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT THE

43:52

EVOLUTION THAT WE SAW THIS ADMINISTRATION TAKE THIS TIME?

43:56

MICHAEL: I THINK WHAT IS DIFFERENT IS

43:58

THE STATE OF THE STATE-OF-THE-ART RAINY IN

44:01

ECONOMY PLUS WIDESPREAD DISAFFECTION AMONG EVERY CLASS

44:02

AND GREED ACROSS THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC.

44:08

THE PROTESTS AS YOU ALL ARE WHERE WERE THE MOST BROAD-BASED

44:11

IN OUR ANCESTRY SINCE 1979. -- IN IRAN'S HISTORY SINCE 1979.

44:18

IF YOU PUT TOGETHER A GROWING BALLISTIC MISSILE PROGRAM AND A

44:21

PRESIDENT WHO WANTS TO DO BIG THINGS AND PRESIDENT TRUMP I

44:23

THINK IN GENERAL HAS USED MILITARY FORCE AGGRESSIVELY.

44:27

I THINK THAT IS WHAT SET THE CONDITIONS FOR THE UNITED

44:31

STATES GETTING INVOLVED AND GOING BIG.

44:33

I THINK IT WAS A HEAD FAKE WHEN PEOPLE LEAKED A FEW DAYS AGO

44:37

THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO SYMBOLIC STRIKES.

44:39

HE IS GOING LARGE, HE IS GOING AFTER THEM.

44:41

WITH THE HELP OF ISRAEL I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THE

44:43

SUPREME LEADER AND DECAPITATE THE REGIME. CHRISTINA:

44:51

THE GOAL OF ALLIES -- THE GULF ALLIES ARE NOT FRIENDS OF IRAN.

44:54

THIS REGIME HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC FOR A LOT OF FOLKS,

44:59

EVEN WITH DIRECT -- EVEN THOSE WITH DIRECT DIPLOMATIC

45:00

RELATIONS. I WONDER WHAT THIS MEANS FOR

45:03

THOSE IN THE REGION. THE DIPLOMATS FROM THOSE

45:06

COUNTRIES REALLY DID NOT WANT THIS ACTION FOR A COUPLE OF

45:07

REASONS. THEY ARE NOT SURE WHAT COMES

45:09

AFTER IF THIS REGIME FALLS. THERE IS NO CIVIL SOCIETY IN

45:13

IRAN. THERE IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE CIVIL SOCIETY IN IRAN.

45:19

THAT STRUCTURE DOES NOT EXIST. THEY ARE AFRAID OF A POWER

45:22

VACUUM THAT THEY HAVE SEEN IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN AND WHAT

45:25

THAT DOES TO REGIONAL STABILITY. I AM WONDERING WHAT THAT DOES

45:29

TO THE U.S. RELATIONSHIPS WITH THESE ALLIES.

45:33

THOSE ARE LOCATED IN OTHER COUNTRIES.

45:37

WE HAVE A BASE ON THE BIGGEST IN THE AREA IN QATAR.

45:41

WE HAVE REPORTS THAT NAVAL OPERATIONS WERE STRUCK.

45:44

WHAT DOES THIS DO FOR AMERICA'S RELATIONSHIP WITH GULF ALLIES?

45:51

MICHAEL: BEHIND CLOSED DOORS THESE

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ALLIES WERE NOT THRILLED BECAUSE THEY ARE READY TO MOVE

45:55

ON TO GROW THEIR ECONOMIES. THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN A

45:59

GEOPOLITICAL FIGHT AROUND THE REGION.

46:04

SECOND I THINK THEY WANT AND VALUE STABILITY NOT ONLY FOR

46:06

ECONOMIC REASONS BUT FOR THEIR OWN REGIMES.

46:11

THEY DON'T LIKE THE EXAMPLE OF POPULAR UPRISINGS TOPPLING

46:13

MONARCHIES, IF YOU WILL. BEHIND CLOSED DOORS THEY WERE

46:17

NOT THRILLED WITH THIS. THEY ARE NOT FRIENDS OF IRAN

46:22

AND IF THINGS TURN OUT TO BE A GREAT SCENARIO, I THINK THEY

46:24

WILL REJOICE. I THINK PRIVATELY RIGHT NOW

46:28

THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT IT AND AS YOU KNOW, IRAN WENT BIG ON

46:33

RETALIATION THIS MORNING. THEY HIT AS MANY AS FIVE EUROPE

46:35

COUNTRIES. IRAN CLEARLY VIEWS THIS AS AN

46:40

EXISTENTIAL THREAT. THEY ARE MAKING GOOD ON THEIR

46:44

PROMISES TO ATTEMPT TO REGIONAL ALLIES THE WAR.

46:46

I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER REASON THE GULF STATES ARE

46:51

UNCOMFORTABLE. DAVID: WE WILL BRING IN RETIRED

46:53

GENERAL JOHN ALLEN TO THIS CONVERSATION.

46:56

I WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION TO THE MILITARY MIGHT THAT WAS

46:59

MARSHALED TO THE GULF AHEAD OF THE STRIKES, WHAT YOU WERE

47:02

THINKING AS IT HAPPENED AND HOW YOU ARE THINKING THROUGH THE

47:04

NEXT STAGES. THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN

47:08

CENTERED ON HOME LONG THIS WILL LAST -- HOW LONG THIS WILL LAST

47:11

AND THE REACTION GOING FORWARD. HOW ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT

47:13

THOSE TWO THINGS? THE U.S. PREPAREDNESS AND HOW LONG IT IS

47:18

GOING TO BE? JOHN: IT WILL GO ON AS LONG AS THE

47:21

U.S. BELIEVES THAT ITS TARGETS LIST

47:27

NEED TO BE SERVICED. WE ARE STRIKING COUNTERFORCE

47:30

TARGETS AND THE MILITARY TARGETS WE ARE STRIKING COMMAND

47:33

AND CONTROL. ISRAELIS OUR GOING AFTER

47:35

LEADERSHIP. WE WILL CONTINUE TO STRIKE

47:38

THOSE TARGET LISTS AS LONG AS WE BELIEVE THAT OUR PURPOSES

47:42

AND OBJECTIVES WILL BE SERVED BY THAT.

47:44

WITH REGARD TO THE REGION, FOR MANY YEARS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING

47:47

WITH OUR PARTNERS AND ALLIES IN THE REGION TO HAVE A NETWORKED

47:53

COUNTER MISSILE DEFENSE, AIR DEFENSE AND MISSILE DEFENSE

47:53

CAPABILITIES. MANY OF THOSE COUNTRIES HAVE

47:57

SIMILAR CAPABILITIES TO OURS. OUR DESTROYERS IN THE REGION

48:06

HAVE THE SM3 AND THE CAPABILITIES TO ENGAGE

48:07

BALLISTIC MISSILES ACROSS THE REGION AS TO OUR PARTNERS.

48:10

WE ARE GOING TO WANT TO SUPPORT OUR PARTNERS AS BEST WE CAN.

48:17

IRANIANS NOT SURPRISINGLY WENT INTO HORIZONTAL ESCALATION

48:18

IMMEDIATELY ATTACKING U.S. BASES AROUND THE REGION.

48:25

WE ALSO WANT TO SUPPORT OUR ALLIES AGAINST ONE OF THE

48:27

REALLY GREAT THREATS THAT IRAN HAS APART FROM ITS NUCLEAR

48:31

PROGRAM AND THAT IS THE DESTABILIZATION OF ITS SUPPORT

48:34

TO TERRORISM BECAUSE OF THE SUPPORT TO TERRORISM.

48:37

THERE ARE MULTIPLE IRANIAN PROXY GROUPS IN IRAQ AND OTHER

48:40

PLACES THAT OFFER A DESTABILIZING THREAT TO OUR

48:41

PARTNERS. WE WILL SUPPORT THEM IN

48:44

COUNTERTERRORISM AND WE WILL SUPPORT THEM IN COUNTERING

48:47

BALLISTIC MISSILES. WE WILL CONTINUE TO SERVICE OUR

48:50

TARGET LIST UNTIL WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED OUR OBJECTIVES.

48:53

CHRISTINA: GENERAL, I WANT TO ASK YOU

48:55

ABOUT THE PROXY GROUPS AND ABOUT IRAN'S RESPONSE AND

48:59

MILITARY CAPABILITIES. WE HAVE HEZBOLLAH, HAMAS AND

49:01

THE HOUTHIS. BUT IT'S UNCLEAR HOW MUCH OF A

49:09

STOCKPILE LEFT AFTER THESE BACK-AND-FORTHS WE HAVE SEEN

49:10

BETWEEN ISRAEL AND IRAN. THEY HAVE ROCKETS, INTERMEDIATE

49:15

AND SHORT-RANGE WEAPONS. THAT WAS ONE OF THE STICKING

49:18

POINTS OF THESE NEGOTIATIONS IS THE U.S.

49:20

ALWAYS WANTED THESE ON THE TABLE.

49:22

THEY WANTED IRAN TO GET RID OF THOSE AND THAT WAS LIKE A

49:26

NONSTARTER FOR TEHRAN AS WELL. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE

49:28

U.S. CAPABILITIES ARE AND HOW LONG

49:30

THE U.S. CAN LAST IN THIS. DO WE TO KNOW HOW LONG IRAN CAN

49:36

FIGHT BACK AT SOME LEVEL THAT IS DANGEROUS? JOHN:

49:43

WE SHOULD EXPECT THAT THE IRANIANS WILL DEPLETE THEIR

49:48

ROCKET AND MISSILE INVENTORIES IN RETRIBUTION AND

49:51

COUNTERATTACKING THE AMERICAN ATTACK.

49:54

THEY WILL ATTACK AMERICAN FORCES IN THE ARAB STATES.

49:59

THEY MAY GO FOR THE ARABIAN CAPITALS THEMSELVES.

50:01

THEY ARE QUITE VULNERABLE. THE ARABS HAVE CAPACITY TO

50:05

DEFEND THEMSELVES BUT WE HAVE NETWORK TO THIS AS MUCH AS WE

50:06

CAN. I DON'T THINK WE KNOW EXACTLY

50:11

HOW MANY MISSILES AND ROCKETS IRANIANS HAVE.

50:12

MISSILES ARE GUIDED. THE ROCKETS ARE BALLISTIC.

50:15

THE IRANIANS HAVE A REALLY FORMIDABLE ARSENAL WITH THOSE

50:19

CAPABILITIES. I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL SEE THEM

50:22

STRIKING AS MUCH AS THEY CAN FOR AS LONG AS THEY CAN.

50:26

REMEMBER, THEIR CAPACITY TO PROJECT ANY LEGITIMACY TO THEIR

50:31

PEOPLE IS GOING TO BE HOW THEY APPEAR TO BE DEFENDING IRAN

50:37

FROM THE AMERICANS AND FROM THE ISRAELIS.

50:41

THE MOMENT THAT IT APPEARS THAT THE IRANIAN SKIES ARE WIDE OPEN

50:46

AND BY AND LARGE THEY ARE WIDE OPEN FROM THE PREVIOUS STRIKES

50:49

TAKING OUT THEIR CAPABILITIES AND IT APPEARS THAT THEY ARE

50:52

UNABLE TO DEFEND IRAN AS AN ENTITY, THEY BECOME

50:55

ILLEGITIMATE VERY QUICKLY AND THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET WE

50:59

KNOW FOR A LONG TIME HAVE BELIEVED THAT THIS REGIME HAS

51:03

GOT TO GO. I THINK ONE OF PRESIDENT

51:06

TRUMP'S OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO CREATE THE CONDITIONS WHEREBY

51:10

THE POPULAR SUPPORT TO THE REGIME CAN ULTIMATELY OVERCOME

51:12

THE REGIME ITSELF. DAVID: THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK

51:14

YOU TO MICHAEL ALLEN AS WELL FOR HELPING US PIECED TOGETHER

51:16

WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND THE LIKELY PATH FORWARD.

51:21

TOP OF MIND AS WELL AS WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE GLOBAL ECONOMY,

51:23

WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE MARKETS. IT IS SATURDAY BUT A LOT OF

51:26

THOUGHT IS GOING INTO WHAT IS HAPPENING ON MONDAY MORNING

51:30

WHEN THE MARKETS BEGIN TRAINING -- TRADING ONCE AGAIN.

51:32

TOM KEENE JOINS US ON SET. AT A MOMENT LIKE THIS, WE THINK

51:37

OF ASSETS LIKE OIL. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT?

51:42

TOM: WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS DUBAI

51:47

BEING SHUT DOWN WHICH IS NO SURPRISE WITH THE PROXIMITY TO

51:48

IRAN. IT WILL BE DESTRUCTIVE TO ALL

51:51

THE LOGISTICS AND SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE.

51:54

IT DOES NOT START MONDAY MORNING.

51:56

IF YOU ARE IN THE BUSINESS, MONDAY IS 5:00 P.M.

51:58

SUNDAY NIGHT. AT 5:00 P.M. SUNDAY WE WILL GET A GOOD LOOK

52:03

WITH BRENT CRUDE OPENING IN LONDON.

52:05

THERE IS SPECULATION OUT THERE, I DO NOT WANT TO QUOTE A NUMBER

52:10

BUT CLOSING AT $73 ON BRENT CRUDE. WHERE WILL THAT GO?

52:14

WE WILL HAVE TO SEE. WE HAVE TIME TO WORK THAT OUT

52:15

FOR THE LONDON OPENING. WITH THE 10 YEAR YIELD WELL

52:23

UNDER THE 4% LEVEL, I HAVE TO SAY WHEN IN DOUBT, FOLLOW THE

52:25

SWISS FRANC. THAT WILL BE THE METER HERE.

52:31

DAVID: THE CLASSIC HAVEN ASSET. PERHAPS INDICATING THAT THEY

52:35

CAN PRODUCE PRODUCTION IN LIGHT OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE.

52:42

WE HAVE SEEN MARKETS SO ENURED TO THESE EVENTS LATELY.

52:43

VENEZUELA. WHAT IF YOU MAKE OF THAT --

52:47

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? TOM: THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

52:54

THE CLEAREST MEMORY BEING IN THE BLOOMBERG CONTROL ROOM, WE

52:58

HAD A GEOGRAPHIC ATLAS AND I OPENED IT UP AND I SAID, YOU

52:59

HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME.

53:06

IRAN IS THE SIZE OF FIVE FRANCES.

53:09

IRAQ IS A QUARTER OF THE GEOGRAPHY OF IRAN. CHRISTINA:

53:14

IT IS NOT JUST IRAN'S OIL SUPPLY. WE HAVE SEEN THEM STRIKE

53:18

AGAINST U.S. ALLIES. WE HAVE SEEN THEM HIT SAUDI

53:20

FACILITIES BEFORE. COULD IT BE A BIGGER ISSUE?

53:26

LISTENING TO THE PRESIDENT SAY THIS COULD BE A PROLONGED

53:27

CONFLICT, ARE THE MARKETS MORE LIKELY TO REACT TO THAT THAN A

53:28

TARGETED STRIKE? TOM: WE HAVE TO SEE.

53:32

I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECULATION ON THAT.

53:34

ONE OF THE GREAT SERIES I SAW IN THESE EARLY HOURS IS MICHAEL.

53:39

HE SAID THIS IS ONLY GOING TO BE FROM THE AIR.

53:49

THE QUESTION HERE THAT YOU HAVE IS WHERE IS THE BOOTS ON THE

53:50

GROUND AND THERE SEEMS TO BE NO PLANS FOR THAT. DAVID:

53:53

WE WILL GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE OVER THE COURSE OF THE MORNING.

53:59

NOT WHAT WE HAD PLANNED BUT WELL-POSITIONED TO COVER.

54:01

CHRISTINA: IT WAS NOT BUT THIS IS WHY WE

54:04

ARE HERE ON THE WEEKENDS AND WE WANT TO BRING YOU EVERYTHING

54:06

YOU NEED TO KNOW AS THESE STORIES UNFOLD. DAVID:

54:10

TOM KEENE IS WITH US. WE WILL GO BACK TO JOE MATHIEU

54:15

AND JEFF MASON, RECAPPING THE NEWS. THE U.S.

54:19

LAUNCHING STRIKES IN CONCERT WITH ISRAEL ON IRAN.

54:24

AS THE SUPREME LEADER OF THAT COUNTRY PROMISED, MISSILES ARE

54:30

FLYING ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST. DUBAI AND WHAT IS HAPPENING

54:31

THERE, A LOT OF ANXIETY. CHRISTINA:

54:36

IRAN SAYING ANYTHING IS ON THE TABLE AND THERE ARE NO RED

54:37

LINES. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE

54:38

U.S.? WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE MIDDLE EAST?

54:43

WE HAVE MORE IN THE NEXT HOUR STARTING NOW. STICK WITH US.

55:01

55:11

CHRISTINA: WELCOME BACK TO BLOOMBERG "THIS

55:12

WEEKEND." I'M CHRISTINA RUFFINI. DAVID: WE ARE COVERING A LOT OF

55:17

BREAKING NEWS OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST. THE U.S. TAKING

55:20

EXTRAORDINARY STRIKES ON IRAN. WE HAVE A STATEMENT FROM THE

55:24

PRESIDENT HE POSTED IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS.

55:27

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ANALYSIS OVER THE COURSE OF THIS MORNING.

55:32

AS WE WILL EVERY WEEKEND ON BLOOMBERG TELEVISION, BLOOMBERG

55:35

RADIO STREAMING, ON THE BLOOMBERG BUSINESS APP, AND AT

55:37

BLOOMBERG.COM AS WELL. WE WERE WELCOMED EARLY BY ALL

55:40

OF THIS NEWS. CHRISTINA: QUITE EARLY.

55:44

THIS IS NOT QUITE THE SHOW WE HAD PLANNED, BUT THIS IS WHY WE

55:46

ARE HERE. THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS

55:51

OF BEING OUT BLOOMBERG. I WAS UP STARTING AT 1:30.

55:56

I THINK YOU WERE SHORTLY AFTER US. WE ARE GOING TO GO TO LISA

56:01

MATEO, WHO IS GOING TO CATCH US UP ON THE HEADLINES. LISA:

56:07

A MASSIVE OPERATION IS UNDERWAY AND THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT

56:11

TEHRAN DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

56:14

THE PRESIDENT SAID THE MILITARY OPERATION BEGAN AFTER IRAN

56:15

REFUSED TO RENOUNCE NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

56:21

HE AND ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU CALLED ON

56:23

IRANIANS TO OVERTHROW THE REGIME.

56:26

SEVERAL LARGE EXPLOSIONS WERE REPORTED IN TEHRAN.

56:28

IRAN QUICKLY RETALIATED. MISSILES TARGETING U.S.

56:32

BASES AND INTEREST IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THAT INCLUDES THE

56:37

UNITED ARAB INTERESTS -- UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, BAHRAIN.

56:42

AND QATAR AND THE UAE REPORTED INTERCEPTIONS INTO THEIR

56:49

TERRITORY. U.S.

56:51

EMBASSIES IN BAHRAIN AND QATAR HAVE ISSUED SHELTER-IN-PLACE

56:54

ORDERS FOR ALL OF THEIR PERSONNEL, BUT ALSO U.S.

56:57

CITIZENS IN THE AREA. SEVERAL COUNTRIES IN THE AREA

57:00

CLOSING THAT AIRSPACE AND THAT IS DISRUPTING COMMERCIAL

57:02

FLIGHTS IN THE AREA. I WANT TO POINT OUT OIL AS WELL.

57:06

OPEC-PLUS IS NOW CONSIDERING A LARGE SUPPLY INCREASE WHEN KEY

57:10

MEMBERS ARE MEETING ON SUNDAY. QUICK NOTE ON THE BLOG.

57:15

RESIDENTS IN DUBAI REPORT SOUNDS OF BLASTS.

57:19

ALSO TO GIVE A SENSE OF THE SCALE OF U.S.

57:23

AND ISRAELI STRIKES, THEY TARGETED MORE THAN 20 OF THE

57:25

COUNTRY'S 31 PROVINCES. NO WORK ON IF OR WHEN THE

57:29

PRESIDENT WILL SPEAK ON THE BUT WE WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON

57:33

THAT. CHRISTINA: WE ARE GETTING AN EMAIL FROM

57:36

OUR COLLEAGUE, JOUMANNA BERCETCHE.

57:41

SHE SAID SHE HEARD THE LAST STRIKE HAPPENING IN THE UAE.

57:44

THERE ARE REPORTS OF MORE STRIKES IN THE UAE AND QATAR.

57:50

WE WANT TO PLAY SOME MORE OF THE SOUND FROM THAT STARTLING

57:53

ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES STATEMENT THE PRESIDENT DROPPED ON SOCIAL

57:54

MEDIA THIS MORNING. HE DID NOT CALL THE PRESS POOL.

57:57

HE DID NOT NOTIFY EVERYONE. WE TALKED TO TOWER REPORTER IN

58:03

MAR-A-LAGO, AND SHE SAID SHE FOUND OUT WHEN THE REST OF THE

58:05

WORLD THAT. SOME OF THE REMARKABLE THINGS

58:08

IN THAT STATEMENT, INCLUDING A DECLARATION OF WAR AGAINST IRAN.

58:12

THE PRESIDENT SAID THIS CAMPAIGN COULD COST AMERICAN

58:15

LIVES. AS BAMA THE LIVES OF COURAGEOUS

58:18

AMERICAN HEROES MAY BE LOST THEN WE MAY HAVE CASUALTIES.

58:22

THAT OFTEN HAPPENS IN WAR. BUT WE ARE DOING THIS NOT FOR

58:26

NOW, WE'RE DOING THIS FOR THE FUTURE.

58:28

AND IT IS A NOBLE MISSION. WE PRAY FOR EVERY SERVICE

58:35

MEMBER AS THEY SELFLESSLY RISKED THEIR LIVES TO ENSURE

58:37

THAT AMERICANS AND OUR CHILDREN WILL NEVER BE THREATENED BY A

58:40

NUCLEAR-ARMED IRAN. THE ASK GOD TO PROTECT ALL OF

58:46

OUR HEROES IN HARMS WAY AND WE TRUST THAT, WITH HIS HELP, THE

58:50

MEN AND WOMEN OF THE ARMED FORCES WILL PREVAIL.

58:53

WE HAVE THE GREATEST IN THE WORLD AND THEY WILL PREVAIL.

58:58

TO THE MEMBERS OF THE ISLAMIC REVOLUTIONARY GUARD.

59:02

THE ARMED FORCES. AND ALL OF THE POLICE.

59:05

I SAY TONIGHT, YOU MUST LAY DOWN YOUR WEAPONS AND HAVE

59:08

COMPLETE IMMUNITY. OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE PHASE

59:10

CERTAIN DEATH.

59:11

SO, LAY DOWN YOUR ARMS. YOU WILL BE TREATED FAIRLY,

59:18

WITH TOTAL IMMUNITY, OR YOU WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH.

59:24

FINALLY, TO THE GREAT, PROUD PEOPLE OF IRAN, I SAY TONIGHT

59:27

THAT THE HOUR OF YOUR FREEDOM IS AT HAND.

59:32

STAY SHELTERED, DON'T LEAVE YOUR HOME.

59:34

IT IS VERY DANGEROUS OUTSIDE. BOMBS WILL BE DROPPING

59:36

EVERYWHERE. WHEN WE ARE FINISHED, TAKE OVER

59:37

HERE GOVERNMENT. -- OVER YOUR GOVERNMENT.

59:41

IT WILL BE YOURS TO TAKE. THIS WILL BE, PROBABLY, YOUR

59:46

ONLY CHANCE FOR GENERATIONS. FOR MANY YEARS YOU HAVE ASKED

59:49

FOR AMERICA'S HELP, BUT YOU NEVER GOT IT.

59:52

NO PRESIDENT WAS WILLING TO DO WHAT I AM WILLING TO DO TONIGHT.

59:56

NOW YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS GIVING YOU WHAT YOU WANT.

60:01

SO, LET'S SEE HOW YOU RESPOND. AMERICA IS BACKING YOU WITH

60:03

OVERWHELMING STRENGTH AND DEVASTATING FORCE.

60:08

NOW IS THE TIME TO SEIZE CONTROL OF YOUR DESTINY AND TO

60:12

UNLEASH THE PROSPEROUS AND GLORIOUS FUTURE THAT IS CLOSE

60:15

WITHIN YOUR REACH. THIS IS THE MOMENT FOR ACTION.

60:19

DO NOT LET IT PASS. GOD BLESS THE BRAVE MEN AND

60:22

WOMEN OF AMERICA'S ARMED FORCES. MAY GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES

60:26

OF AMERICA. THEY GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

60:28

THANK YOU. DAVID: THE LAST TWO MINUTES OF THAT

60:35

EXTRAORDINARY STATEMENT THIS MORNING, RELEASED WELL BEFORE

60:37

DAWN. I'M GOING TO BRING IN DAN

60:44

WILLIAMS, A JERUSALEM-BASED CORRESPONDENCE, JOE MATHIEU,

60:48

AND JEFF MASON, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT IN NEW YORK.

60:53

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING THESE

60:55

STRIKES WHERE YOU ARE SITTING. I WANT TO GO TO THAT ENTREE

60:59

FROM THE PRESIDENT, URGING IRANIANS TO LAY DOWN THEIR

61:00

WEAPONS. THESE ARE AIRSTRIKES.

61:06

ONE WONDERS WHAT THE NEXT LOGICAL STEPS WOULD BE.

61:08

I'M CURIOUS HOW YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT.

61:11

THE PRESIDENT CALLING FOR IRANIANS TO RISE UP, CALLING ON

61:13

THE REVOLUTIONARY GUARD. WHAT MECHANISM IS IN PLACE?

61:21

TALK ABOUT THAT IN THESE NEXT FEW HOURS AND DAYS.

61:25

>> IT IS A HUGE CHALLENGE. FROM WHAT WE CAN GATHER THE

61:28

RETALIATION THAT ALL OF THE SKULL STATES HAVE SEEN AND

61:32

WITNESSED OVER THE LAST FEW HOURS SUGGESTS THE IRANIAN

61:33

REGIME IS NOT GOING TO GO QUIETLY.

61:36

HAVE BEEN READYING THEMSELVES FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF MILITARY

61:41

ACTION. THEY HAVE RESPONDED QUICKLY.

61:43

IN THE 12 DAY WAR THE -- IT TOOK THEM TIME TO CALIBRATE THE

61:45

RESPONSE. THIS TIME THEY WERE READY TO GO

61:48

ON THEY HAVE TARGETED MULTIPLE COUNTRIES.

61:53

I'M IN DUBAI AND I HEARD A COUPLE OF BLASTS.

61:56

IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THEY ARE NOT SPARING ANY GULF STATES.

62:01

INSOFAR AS U.S. HAS ASSETS IN THOSE COUNTRIES.

62:07

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE UAE, QATAR, JORDAN, KUWAIT, IRAQ.

62:09

ALL OF THESE COUNTRIES ARE INVOLVED.

62:11

IT HAS BECOME A REGIONAL WAR. WHAT WE KNOW FROM AUTHORITIES

62:15

IN THESE COUNTRIES IS THAT MOST OF THE MISSILES AND DRONES HAVE

62:19

BEEN INTERCEPTED. THE GUNTER. -- FOR FEAR TO BE ANY CIVILIAN

62:22

CASUALTIES. THERE HAS BEEN ONE CASUALTY IN

62:26

ABU DHABI ON THE BACK OF SHRAPNEL.

62:31

BUT THAT IS THE BIGGER ISSUE HERE, BECAUSE A SHORT WHILE AGO

62:33

IT WAS REPORTED THAT THE FOREIGN MINISTER DID MAKE A

62:38

CALL TO HIS COUNTERPARTS IN THOSE COUNTRIES AND WON THEM

62:39

ABOUT THEM ALLOWING THE U.S. TO USE THEIR BASES TO LAUNCH

62:43

FURTHER STRIKES ON IRAN.

62:49

THIS WOULD SUGGEST IRAN ARE WRITTEN ON RETALIATING.

62:53

WHEN IT COMES TO THE DEMONSTRATORS, A MONTH AGO

62:54

THERE WAS AN UPRISING. IT WAS BRUTALLY PUT DOWN, AND

63:01

THE UNOFFICIAL NUMBERS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH -- WE DON'T

63:03

KNOW THE EXACT DEATH TOLL, BUT THE NUMBERS PUT FORWARD BY

63:08

HUMAN RIGHTS AGENCIES SUGGEST MORE THAN 30,000 PEOPLE WERE

63:12

KILLED IN THESE MINISTRATIONS -- DEMONSTRATIONS.

63:16

THERE IS A WARINESS IN TEHRAN AMONGST THE POPULATION AND A

63:23

REAL QUESTION AS TO WHAT EXACTLY U.S.

63:25

ASSISTANCE LOOKS LIKES AND IF THE FOCUS IS TO TARGET MILITARY

63:27

INFRASTRUCTURE, PERHAPS KEY INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE REGIME.

63:31

BUT IN TERMS OF ACTUAL SUPPORT ON THE GROUND, WHAT DOES THAT

63:32

LOOK LIKE? ONCE AGAIN, THE STAKES ARE HIGH

63:39

AND THIS IS A REGIME THAT IS VERY INTENT ON ITS OWN SURVIVAL.

63:41

IT IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THEM.

63:45

THEY WILL NOT GO DOWN EASILY. CHRISTINA:

63:51

IRANIAN EX-PATS I HAVE SPOKEN TO RECENTLY WHO DESPISE THIS

63:54

REGIME WITH EVERY FIBER OF THEIR TEAM STILL HAVE FAMILY IN

63:57

TEHRAN. I TALKED TO A WOMAN WHO SAID

63:59

HER FAMILY, SHE HAD NOT SPOKEN TO THEM IN DAYS DURING THE LAST

64:02

ROUND OF STRIKES BECAUSE THEY HAD GONE TO THE MOUNTAINS.

64:06

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO

64:09

APPEAL TO, AND AT THE SAME TIME THESE ARE PEOPLE BEING PUT IN

64:13

HARM'S WAY, AS WELL AS OUR COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS

64:15

THROUGHOUT THE REGION. DAN, I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE

64:17

OUTSIDE AND SAFE. I HOPE YOU HAVE EMERGED FROM A

64:19

SHELTER. I WONDER IF WE ARE HEARING

64:23

ANYTHING MORE FROM THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT THIS MONEY?

64:25

I REACHED OUT TO THE EMBASSY AND THEY SAID THEY ARE NOT

64:27

SPEAKING IT. I WONDER IF YOU ARE HEARING

64:29

ANYTHING ON YOUR SIDE OF THE WORLD? DAN: AS OF NOW, NO.

64:36

THERE HAVE BEEN PROCEDURAL UPDATES, FOR EXAMPLE FROM THE

64:38

TRANSPORTATION MINISTER. THE ISRAELI AIRSPACE IS CLOSED,

64:40

AS ARE THE HEIRS BASES OF OTHER RELEVANT COUNTRIES IN THE

64:44

REGION. THAT WILL AFFECT AIR TRAFFIC,

64:46

TRAVEL, AND THE LIKE. THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN CALLED TO

64:50

SHELTERS REGULARLY. USUALLY DIVVIED UP BY SECTOR

64:56

COME ABOUT COMMUNITY, BY PART OF THE COUNTRY.

65:00

THE ISRAELIS HAVE BEEN WEATHERED TO SUCH ATTACKS,

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GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1991, THE GULF WAR.

65:08

OF THOSE 3.5 DECADES, THEY HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING A SOPHISTICATED

65:11

SYSTEM THAT HOMES DOWN TO THE AREAS LIKELY TO BE AFFECTED BY

65:12

ANY SPECIFIC LAUNCH. BASICALLY, IF YOU ARE IN THE

65:18

LINE OF FIRE WHERE YOU HAPPEN TO LIVE OR POTENTIALLY IN THE

65:21

LINE OF FIRE FOR DEBRIS THAT COULD EMERGE FOR THE

65:25

INTERCEPTION OF A MISSILE INTENDED FOR ANOTHER PART OF

65:28

THE COUNTRY, YOU WILL RECEIVE A TIMELY WARNING TO GO DOWN TO

65:33

SHELTERS. THAT HAS HAPPENED A HALF-DOZEN

65:35

TIMES SINCE THIS BLEW UP JUST PAST 8:00 A.M.

65:38

THIS MORNING JUST PAST 10:00 IN THE GULF.

65:46

IRANIANS HAVE SUCCEEDED IN SCORING STRIKES IN THOSE GOLF

65:53

TARGETS.

65:54

IT COMES DOWN AS MUCH TO RANGES ANYTHING ELSE.

65:55

ISRAEL IS WELL OVER 1000 KILOMETERS AWAY.

65:59

THOSE GOLF TARGETS ARE IN SOME CASES JUST A FEW HUNDRED

66:01

KILOMETERS AWAY FROM THE IRANIAN LAUNCH POINTS.

66:06

THAT MEANS THERE IS FAR LESS TIME TO PREPARE FOR THOSE

66:08

MISSILES, TO MOUNT AN INTERCEPTION.

66:12

OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU ARE ACROSS THE REGION, THEN IT IS EASIER

66:17

TO TRACK THOSE MISSILES. I SUSPECT AFTER PRIME MINISTER

66:24

NETANYAHU PUT OUT THAT MESSAGE VERY CLOSE TO PRESIDENT TRUMP'S

66:27

MESSAGE -- IN FACT, THE CONTENT TRACKING ALMOST EXACTLY WITH

66:31

WHAT TRUMP SAID -- THE ISRAELIS ALSO CALLING ON THE IRANIAN

66:33

PEOPLE OF ALL COMMUNITIES AND SECTORS TO RISE UP AND TAKE

66:34

HOLD OF THEIR DESTINY. NOW THAT THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT

66:38

IS APPARENTLY RECEIVING A DRUBBING AT THE COMBINED HANDS

66:41

OF THE U.S. AND ISRAELI FORCES.

66:47

WE WILL NOT HEAR BACK FROM HIM AT NIGHTFALL WHEN THE JEWISH

66:49

SABBATH ENDS. CHRISTINA:

66:55

IN JUNE DURING THAT 12 DAY BACK-AND-FORTH WE DID WATCH THE

66:56

IRON DOME VERY SUCCESSFULLY INTERCEPT MOST OF THOSE

66:59

MUNITIONS. THERE WERE A FEW THAT GOT

67:01

THROUGH, BUT FOR THE MOST PART WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS THE

67:02

INTERCEPTORS GOING OUT AND TAKING OUT THOSE.

67:06

YOUR HONOR THIS WAS A POSSIBILITY AND RECALCULATED

67:08

WHAT THEY WOULD STRIKE. DAVID: LET ME TALK ABOUT THIS THEME OF

67:12

SURPRISE.

67:23

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT LAWMAKERS AND HOW SURPRISED THEY WERE.

67:31

JACK REED IS THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE

67:34

AND WAS GIVEN NO ADVANCE NOTICE. ONE WONDERS ABOUT THE GANG OF

67:37

EIGHT, THE LEADERSHIP FROM THE HOUSE AND SENATE, THE LEADING

67:41

MEMBERS OF THE SELECT INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES AS WELL.

67:43

ANY INDICATION IF THEY WERE GIVEN A HEADS UP? JOE:

67:48

WE LEARNED THAT THE DID GET A HEADS UP ON THIS, WHICH DID NOT

67:50

HAPPEN, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN THE U.S. WENT INTO VENEZUELA.

67:55

THERE WAS A BIT OF OUTRAGE WHEN MARCO RUBIO SUGGESTED THAT THEY

67:59

COULD NOT TRUST MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO NOT LEAK THAT

68:03

INFORMATION. THE GANG OF EIGHT IS QUITE

68:05

WELL-KNOWN KNOWN FOR NOT DOING THAT.

68:08

THESE ARE THE TWO PARTY LEADERS IN EACH CHAMBER AND LEADER AND

68:12

RANKING MEMBER OF BOTH INTEL COMMITTEES.

68:13

THAT WOULD INCLUDE MARK WARNER, WHO IS OUT WITH A STATEMENT

68:16

DEMANDING WAR POWERS VOTE. IT COMES BACK TO THIS IDEA OF A

68:21

PROLONGED ENGAGEMENT, WHICH AT PRESENT AND IS CLEARLY

68:22

TELEGRAPHING. THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE WAS

68:24

ALSO BRIEFED, AS WE UNDERSTAND. I SUSPECT THAT CAME FROM THE

68:27

SAME PLACE. WHETHER THERE IS GOING TO BE A

68:33

CLASSIFIED BRIEFING FOR ALL MEMBERS, WE DO NOT KNOW.

68:36

CHRISTINA: THAT IS A DEPARTURE FROM WHEN

68:40

THE U.S. STRUCK IRAN NUCLEAR FACILITIES

68:43

LAST SUMMER. I HEARD A LOT OF GRIPING THAT

68:47

THEY HAD NOT BEEN NOTIFIED.

68:50

>> JUST TO TAKE A BROADER LOOK, YOU HEARD THE PRESIDENT USE THE

68:56

LANGUAGE AND WORLD WAR. CONGRESS HAS THE RIGHT TO

69:00

DECLARE WAR, AND THAT COULD BE ANOTHER MAJOR TENSION POINT

69:01

POLITICALLY IN WASHINGTON. FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT, THOUGH

69:06

SOME LAWMAKERS MAY HAVE GIVEN -- BEEN GIVEN A HEADS-UP, YOU

69:07

DIDN'T ASK PERMISSION. HE DIDN'T ASK CONGRESS TO GET

69:12

BEHIND THIS. HE WENT AHEAD AND DID IT.

69:18

THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF CONGRESS, WHICH IS CONTROLLED

69:20

BY REPUBLICANS, GIVING UP POWERS THAT THE CONSTITUTION

69:22

GIVES THEM TO THE EXECUTIVE. THAT HAS BEEN TRUE WITH TARIFFS

69:25

AS WELL. THIS IS ON A MAJOR FOREIGN-POLICY LEVEL.

69:31

CHRISTINA: DEBATE ABOUT THE WAR POWERS

69:32

DOES NOT EXCLUSIVE TO THIS PRESIDENT.

69:35

AS LONG AS WE HAVE COVERED WASHINGTON THIS HAS BEEN

69:39

SOMETHING CONGRESS HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT.

69:41

USUALLY WHEN YOU HEAR PRESIDENTS ANNOUNCE STRIKES

69:43

LIKE THIS THEY DANCE AROUND THE -- THIS SPECIFICALLY.

69:51

WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU ABOUT THE POWER DYNAMIC IN CONGRESS AND

69:52

WHITE HOUSE THAT THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING THIS IS A WAR, IT

69:55

COULD BE PROTRACTED, AND THERE COULD BE CASUALTIES? JEFF:

70:00

IT IS THE STRENGTHENING OF THE EXECUTIVE THAT HAS HAPPENED

70:02

UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S SECOND TERM.

70:04

HE HAS CLAIMED POWERS IN MANY WAYS THAT ARE NOT HIS.

70:08

HE HAS USED EXECUTIVE ORDERS TO GOVERN MORE SO THAN LEGISLATION.

70:12

IT IS NOT TO DOWNPLAY THE LEGISLATIVE VICTORIES HE HAD IN

70:14

TERMS OF TAX CUTS. THAT HAS BEEN A TENSION POINT

70:16

IN WASHINGTON. IT HAS BEEN A TENSION POINT

70:17

WITH DEMOCRATS.

70:25

THE QUESTION IS WHETHER REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO RISE

70:27

UP AGAINST THAT AS WELL. I CAN GUARANTEE YOU IF THIS

70:30

WERE A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT IN OFFICE THEY WOULD NOT BE

70:32

STANDING FOR THIS.

70:34

BUT HAS BEEN A HALLMARK OF THE REPUBLICAN RESPONSE TO

70:39

PRESIDENT TRUMP ABOUT VS SECOND TERM. THEY DO NOT STAND UP.

70:45

WILL THIS BE A LINE THEY FEEL THEY HAVE CROSSED? TBD DAVID:

70:50

YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THOSE STATEMENTS FROM PRIME

70:55

MINISTER NETANYAHU AND PRESIDENT TRUMP.

70:56

I WONDER HOW GO FOR LEADERS HAVE MADE THEIR CASE TO PRESENT

70:58

TRUMP IN THE LEAD UP TO THIS?

71:07

THERE IS SOME INHERENT INEFFECTIVENESS HERE, BUT WHAT

71:10

IS THAT QUALITY OF COMMUNICATION LIKE BETWEEN GULF

71:12

LEADERS IN THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW? JOUMANNA:

71:16

YOU'VE GOT TO BE THINKING THEY ARE WORKING ON THE CHANNELS.

71:20

WE JUST GOT A STATEMENT FROM THE SAUDI MINISTRY CALLING FOR

71:24

A DE-ESCALATION, SAYING THEY STAND IN UNITY WITH THEIR GOLF

71:25

ALLIES. ONCE WHO HAD BEEN TARGETED.

71:31

FOR GOLF STATES, LOOK, THIS IS OF UTMOST PRIORITY.

71:34

DE-ESCALATION IS OF UTMOST PRIORITY.

71:38

I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THE RELATIONSHIP WITH IRAN, I WOULD

71:40

NOT SAY THAT THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF LOVE LOST BETWEEN

71:45

MANY OF THESE GOLF NATIONS AND THE IRANIAN REGIME.

71:48

THAT SAID, FOR THEM WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT IN THE REGION IN

71:52

THE CONTEXT OF THEIR OWN ECONOMIC VISIONS -- BECAUSE

71:56

MANY OF THESE COUNTRIES ARE UNDERGOING ECONOMIC

71:57

TRANSFORMATION -- IS POLITICAL STABILITY.

72:00

THAT HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT THEME.

72:03

IF YOU SPEAK TO THE LEADERS IN THESE GULF STATES THEY WILL

72:05

TELL YOU THAT THEY DON'T WANT THIS CRISIS TO SPIRAL OUT OF

72:06

CONTROL.

72:14

A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, 2020 THREE THERE WAS A MEDIATION

72:17

THAT WAS BROKERED BY CHINA BETWEEN SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN

72:24

TO RESTORE DIPLOMATIC RELATIONSHIPS OR BOTH SIDES

72:27

PLEDGED NONINTERFERENCE. THAT WAS A BIG MILESTONE IN THE

72:31

REGION BECAUSE YOU MAY ALSO

72:38

RECALL THAT IN PRIOR INCIDENTS SAUDI FACILITIES WERE ALSO

72:39

SUBJECT TO RETALIATION FROM IRAN.

72:43

THIS TIME AROUND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING AGGRESSIVELY TO ENSURE

72:44

THAT THOSE TYPE OF STRIKES DON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

72:48

YET HERE WE ARE ON A DAY LIKE TODAY, WHERE EVERY SINGLE

72:53

U.S.-BASED MILITARY BASE -- NOT EVERY SINGLE, BUT EVERY SINGLE

72:55

COUNTRY HOSTING A U.S. BASE HAS BEEN TARGETED.

72:59

WITH IRANIAN RETALIATION. THERE WOULD BE LOOKING UPON

73:03

THIS WITH A LOT OF CONSTERNATION AND CONCERN ABOUT

73:05

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.

73:11

LOOSELY PUSHING FOR BEING -- BIG DE-ESCALATION HERE.

73:15

IT IS UNLIKELY AT THIS POINT THAT THINGS CAN CALM DOWN OR

73:19

DE-ESCALATE, BECAUSE THE MESSAGING THAT HAS COME

73:23

THROUGH, AT LEAST FROM THE ISRAELI SIDE, IS THAT THIS IS

73:24

AN OPERATION THAT IS GOING TO ON FOR DAYS.

73:28

AS LONG AS THAT HAPPENS YOU WOULD THINK ALSO THAT THE GULF

73:31

STATES AND THEIR ASSETS, THE U.S. ASSETS IN THE REGION WILL

73:34

CONTINUE TO BE TARGETS. CHRISTINA:

73:35

I ALSO WANT TO UPDATE OUR AUDIENCE.

73:42

COURTNEY SUBRAMANIAN CONFIRMS WE ARE NOT EXPECTED TO GET

73:43

FURTHER REMARKS FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY.

73:48

AGAIN, I WANT TO GO TO YOU AND ASK ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND

73:50

THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HIM AND BENJAMIN NETANYAHU.

73:53

THIS HAS BEEN TWO LEADERS THAT WERE CLOSE AND THEN HAD A BIT

73:55

OF A TIFF. THE ROMANCE SEEMS TO BE OVER,

74:00

AND IT HAS REIGNITED IN RECENT MONTHS.

74:04

THE PRIME MINISTER WAS RECENTLY AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND SOURCES

74:07

WERE TELLING ME YEARS REALLY OFFICIALS -- IS REALLY

74:08

OFFICIALS WERE COMING OUT OF THAT MEETING GIDDY.

74:12

FLASH FORWARD AND WE HAVE THIS JOINT STRIKE ON IRAN.

74:15

TALK TO US ABOUT THAT RELATIONSHIP AND HOW MUCH

74:17

INFLUENCE YOU THINK NETANYAHU HAS OVER PRESIDENT TRUMP WHEN

74:19

IT COMES TO TAKING ACTION IN IRAN?

74:24

>> I THINK HE HAS A GREAT DEAL OF INFLUENCE.

74:27

THERE WAS SOMETHING OF A FALLING OUT BETWEEN THE TWO

74:28

TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S. FAMOUSLY TRUMP THEN OUT OF

74:33

OFFICE IN MAR-A-LAGO USED TO THE F-WORD ABOUT NETANYAHU.

74:42

THE PRIME MINISTER BEING QUICK TO RECOGNIZE PRESIDENT BIDEN'S

74:49

PRESIDENTIAL WIN.

74:51

THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO REALLY ENJOYS SUCCESS AND ADMIRES

75:01

SUCCESS.

75:02

AFTER THE ISRAELI MILITARY WERE BLINDSIDED THAT HAMAS ATTACK

75:07

TWO YEARS AGO, ENGINE AND ANY HOPE, THE LONGEST-SERVING PRIME

75:11

MINISTER, WITH HIS EYE ON HIS HISTORICAL LEGACY AND NEEDS OF

75:13

THE COUNTRY IN THE GIVEN MOMENT, PUT HIS MIND NOT JUST A

75:16

TURNING ROUND THE SITUATION IN GAZA, BUT EFFECTIVELY

75:19

REVOLUTIONIZING -- BRINGING ABOUT REVOLUTIONARY CHANGE IN

75:21

THE MIDDLE EAST AT LARGE. ISRAEL WENT ON THE OFFENSIVE ON

75:25

SEVERAL FRONTS AGAINST HIS REIGN -- AGAINST IRANIAN ALLIES.

75:32

HAMAS HAS ENJOYED IRANIAN PATRONAGE CERTAIN GROUPS IN

75:39

SYRIA UNTIL VERY RECENTLY.

75:43

AND THE HOUTHIS ARE ALSO ALIGNED WITH IRAN.

75:45

AND NOW TAKING ON IRAN DIRECTLY. WHAT IS CLEAR HERE IS THAT

75:50

TRUMP HAS BEEN PERSUADED. IT MAY HAVE BEEN FROM OTHER

75:52

FORCES. IT MAY HAVE BEEN HIS READING OF

75:56

HISTORY. HE WILL BE SOMEONE WHO WILL

76:01

REMEMBER THE IRANIAN REVOLUTION, WHEN THE U.S.

76:04

EMBASSY WAS TAKEN OVER AND MANY OF THE STAFF HELD HOSTAGE FOR A

76:07

LONG TIME. HE WILL BE AWARE OF THAT.

76:09

THERE ARE ALSO U.S. ALLEGATIONS THAT IRAN HAS BEEN

76:12

BEHIND ASSASSINATION ATTENDS, OR AT LEAST ONE AGAINST THIS

76:15

PRESIDENT , WHO SURVIVED TWO ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS IN

76:18

RECENT MONTHS. IT WOULD APPEAR A COMBINATION

76:22

OF THE COUNCIL OF THE ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER, A PRIME

76:28

MINISTER HE TRUST TO GET THE JOB DONE AND POTENTIALLY GIVE

76:30

HIM A SOLID ACCOUNTING OF THE REALITIES OF THE MIDDLE EAST.

76:40

AND HOW U.S. INTERESTS MIGHT BE SERVED BY

76:41

SEEING A REGIME CHANGE IN IRAN. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY HAVE

76:46

COALESCED. SIX MONTH AGO IN JUNE THEY

76:50

STRESS TESTED THIS RELATIONSHIP BY JOINING A SURPRISE ATTACK

76:55

AGAINST IRAN. NOW THEY JOINED IN AT THE

77:00

OUTSET WITH THE U.S. PRE-POSITIONING PLANES IN

77:02

ISRAEL, WHICH ITSELF IS WITHOUT PRECEDENT. THERE IS A VERY TIGHT

77:06

RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THESE MEN THAT GOES WELL BEYOND THE

77:08

REPORT TO WHAT APPEARS TO BE A COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF THE

77:12

MIDDLE EAST. DAVID: AT A MOMENT LIKE THIS ONE TENDS

77:14

TO LOOK BACK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PRECEDING DAYS.

77:17

YOU WERE ON CAPITOL HILL FOR THE STATE OF THE UNIT, WATCHING

77:19

THE PRESIDENT ADVISORS COME IN. CHRISTINA:

77:21

THAT SEEMS LIKE A THOUSAND YEARS AGO. DAVID:

77:25

MARCO RUBIO, THE SECRETARY OF STATE AS WELL.

77:29

THE SECRETARY OF STATE STILL HAVING A PLAN TO GO TO ISRAEL

77:30

OVER THE COURSE OF THIS WEEK. CHRISTINA:

77:33

THEY HAVE NOT PULLED DOWN THE TRIP YET. DAVID:

77:37

I WONDER HOW YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, JOE?

77:39

I KEEP GOING BACK TO THIS THEME OF SURPRISE.

77:42

WHAT YOU HAVE OBSERVED ABOUT YOUR APPARATUS SURROUNDING THIS.

77:45

WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE PRESIDENT, BUT THE DEGREE TO

77:46

WHICH HE HAS BEEN ENGAGING WITH THEM.

77:50

WE HEARD FROM HIS ADVISORS ON NATIONAL SECURITY AND DIPLOMACY.

77:53

JOE: AT THAT POINT WHEN WE WERE IN

77:55

THE CAPITAL FOR THE STATE OF THE UNION THE STORYLINE WAS ONE

77:57

OF OPTIMISM. THAT THEY WERE GEARING UP FOR

77:59

TALKS ON THURSDAY. THE PRESIDENT SAID 10 TO 15

78:01

DAYS. THIS IS 10 DAYS ON THE SPOT.

78:05

WHICH IS KIND OF INTERESTING. CHRISTINA:

78:10

AND NOT THAT MUCH ABOUT IRAN IN THE STATE OF THE UNION. JOE:

78:14

THAT IS ALSO TRUE, AND NO INSIGHT INTO JUSTIFICATION.

78:17

IT CERTAINLY WAS NOT AMOUNTING TO WHAT WE HEARD IN THIS VIDEO

78:18

OVERNIGHT. THEY CLEARLY KNEW THIS AND HE

78:23

HAD A BRIEFING BY THE CENTCOM COMMANDER ON THURSDAY.

78:25

LITTLE DID WE KNOW THAT WAS PROBABLY A BRIEFING ABOUT HOW

78:28

THE ATTACK WAS READY TO GO. LOOK, THIS IS GOING TO PLAY

78:32

DIFFERENTLY WITH DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE CATNIP.

78:35

YOU POINTED OUT MARCO RUBIO REMINDING EVERYONE OF THE

78:39

TENSION BETWEEN MARCO RUBIO AND JD VANCE.

78:43

THE POTENTIAL HEIR APPARENT OF THIS PRESIDENT AND MAGA.

78:46

THIS IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR JD VANCE TO TELEGRAPH

78:50

PUBLICLY. IS GOING TO HAVE TO SUPPORT

78:52

THIS AS A MEMBER OF THE ADMINISTRATION.

78:56

BUT TO MAKE THIS AN AMERICA FIRST DOMESTIC ISSUE FOR HIM,

79:00

KNOWING HE WANTS TO RUN IN 2028, IS GOING TO BE TOUGH.

79:02

CHRISTINA: I WANT TO PLAY YOU MORE SOUND

79:03

FROM THE PRESIDENT'S REMARKS THIS MORNING.

79:06

I WANT TO PLAY YOU SOUND FROM THE PRESIDENT SPEAKING

79:11

YESTERDAY. IN CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS.

79:13

LISTENING TO WHAT HE SAID DURING THE STATE OF THE UNION,

79:19

LISTENING UP TO THIS SPEECH, WHEN I HEARD THIS I THOUGHT,.

79:23

PRES. TRUMP: THAT IT WANT TO GO FAR ENOUGH,

79:25

AND THAT IS TOO BAD. WE HAVE BEEN PLAYING WITH THEM

79:28

FOR 47 YEARS AND THAT IS A LONG TIME.

79:31

THEY HAVE BEEN BLOWING THE LEGS OFF OF OUR PEOPLE, THE FACES,

79:35

THE ARMS. THEY HAVE BEEN KNOCKING OUR SHIPS, ONE BY ONE.

79:38

EVERY MONTH THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE.

79:43

WE CAN PUT UP WITH IT TOO LONG. WE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE

79:44

NEGOTIATION. THEY DON'T WANT TO SAY THE

79:48

KEYWORDS, WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

79:52

CHRISTINA: WAS THAT THE PRESIDENT TIPPING

79:53

HIS HAT THERE FOR PEOPLE LISTENING?

79:57

AND WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS FOR THIS AS WE LOOK AT THAT

80:01

YEAR -- THE BIGGER GEOPOLITICAL STRATEGY?

80:04

AHEAD OF THE PRESIDENT'S VISIT TO CHINA?

80:05

AND ALSO RUSSIA AND UKRAINE? DOES THIS IMPACT THAT? JEFF:

80:10

I THINK HE WAS TELEGRAPHING IT. THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO HAS

80:14

MADE CLEAR ALMOST FROM DAY ONE THAT HE IS INTERESTED IN

80:18

GETTING THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, AND YET HE IS ALSO A PRESIDENT

80:21

WHO IS VERY INTERESTED IN USING THE FORCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE

80:23

TO HIM IN TERMS OF MILITARY POWER.

80:25

HE HAS CERTAINLY DONE THAT NOW IN IRAN.

80:30

ON THE BROADER GEOPOLITICAL RAMIFICATIONS, I THOUGHT IT WAS

80:34

INTERESTING TO HEAR WHAT RUSSIA'S REACTION WAS TO THIS.

80:38

SOME WOULD CALL THAT VERY RICH, TO HAVE RUSSIA'S SAYING THIS IS

80:42

AN UNPROVOKED ATTACK AND NOT IN LINE WITH INTERNATIONAL NORMS,

80:43

CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT RUSSIA INVADED UKRAINE.

80:47

BUT THAT, AGAIN, DOES HAVE RAMIFICATIONS FOR THIS.

80:50

HOW DOES THAT CHANGE THIS ADMINISTRATION, THE TRUMP

80:53

ADMINISTRATION'S ABILITY TO FORM A PEACE DEAL THERE?

80:56

WHICH PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SAID HE WANTS.

81:00

HE RIGHTLY SAID THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO CHINA IN ABOUT A

81:01

MONTH. THERE IS ALWAYS THIS THREAT OR

81:06

CONCERN OF CHINA POTENTIALLY INVADING TAIWAN.

81:10

WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE DOES THE UNITED STATES STRIKE ON ANOTHER

81:14

COUNTRY SEND TO CHINA ON WHETHER THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTED

81:19

OR ACCEPTABLE? JOE:

81:21

OUR COLLEAGUE WHO HEADS UP OUR RUSSIAN COVERAGE WAS MAKING A

81:23

GOOD POINT. THAT WHAT THIS SHOWCASES IS THE

81:27

REDUCED CAPACITY OF RUSSIA AND VLADIMIR PUTIN TO DEFEND ITS

81:28

LONG-STANDING ALLIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST. I WONDER WHAT YOU

81:30

THINK ABOUT THAT?

81:38

WE HAVE SEEN DAMAGE TO ITS PROXIES IN THE REGION, AND

81:42

RUSSIA WAS A PATRON OF THESE COUNTRIES. CHRISTINA:

81:44

AND WE SAW THIS IN SYRIA. IT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THE

81:47

REGIME CANNOT HOLD ON. RUSSIA DID NOT HAVE THE

81:52

BANDWIDTH TO SUPPORT THAT REGIME IS MUCH AS THEY USED TO.

81:55

I REMEMBER I WAS THERE YEARS AGO THERE WERE PICTURES OF THE

81:59

AYATOLLAH, THE IRGC LEADERS ALL OVER THAT AREA.

82:00

THAT IS NOT THERE ANYMORE. JOE: IT REMINDS US OF THE DISRUPTION

82:07

WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PRESIDENT'S FIRST YEAR IN THE SECOND TERM.

82:10

THERE IS A LOT OF OVERLAP HERE, AS YOU ARE POINTING OUT.

82:15

HOW THIS IMPACTS A POTENTIAL PEACE DEAL AROUND UKRAINE, THE

82:18

WAY IT MAY BE INFORMING THE CHINESE WHEN IT COMES TO TAIWAN

82:19

ARE HUGE QUESTIONS. WE HAVE NOT EVEN BROUGHT UP

82:23

GREENLAND SINCE WE CAME ON THE AIR THIS MORNING. CHRISTINA:

82:26

IT IS ONE OF THE FEW TIMES YOU AND I HAVE NOT DISCUSSED

82:29

GREENLAND SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER, JOE. DAVID:

82:36

I WANT TO GO TO JAY KAUSHIK LOSS -- CONGRESSMAN OPTION

82:38

CLASS.

82:44

A QUESTION WE HAVE BEEN POSING TO A LOT OF OUR GUESTS, IS HOW

82:46

THEY FIND OUT ABOUT THIS. I WONDER IF YOU COULD WALK US

82:50

THROUGH THAT AND GIVE US YOUR SENSE OF WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IN

82:51

THE CRUCIBLE OF CONGRESS. WE KNOW THERE ARE VOTES

82:56

HAPPENING ON MORE POWERS. IT MAY BE BROUGHT TO BEAR OVER

83:01

THE NEXT FEW HOURS?

83:04

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK ON. THE WAY I SHOULD HAVE FOUND OUT

83:07

ABOUT THIS IS THE PRESIDENT COMING TO CONGRESS TO REQUEST

83:11

AN AUTHORIZATION FOR MILITARY FORCE AND REPRESENTATIVES

83:15

DEBATING IN PLAIN VIEW OF THE PUBLIC THE MERITS OF

83:19

AIRSTRIKES, THE NATURE OF IRANIAN SELF-DETERMINATION, AND

83:22

RISKS AND BENEFITS THEREOF.

83:28

THE WAY I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE THIS

83:32

MORNING, WAS OPENING THE HEADLINES AND SEEING THAT A

83:33

RECKLESS COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF HAD STARTED A WAR OF CHOICE WITHOUT

83:37

CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORIZATION AND WITHOUT EXPLAINING THE

83:39

STRATEGIC ENDGAME. THIS IS GOING TO BE TACTICALLY

83:41

OVERWHELMING. AMERICA DOES HAVE AIR DOMINANCE

83:47

IN IRAN, BUT IT IS STRATEGICALLY OPEN-ENDED, AND

83:50

CONGRESS IS GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THIS

83:52

PRESIDENT IS ASKING. CHRISTINA: DO YOU THINK THIS WAS AN

83:55

ILLEGAL ACTION BY THE PRESIDENT? >> YES, HE DOES NOT HAVE

84:00

AUTHORIZATION TO DO THIS. UNDER THE WAR POWERS THE ONLY

84:04

WAY A PRESIDENT CAN COMMIT U.S. FORCES INTO HOSTILITIES AS IF

84:06

THERE IS AN IMMINENT THREAT. THERE IS NO IMMINENT THREAT

84:12

FROM THE AS RUM OR PUBLIC. THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC HAS AMID

84:16

IS RATED -- HAS AN MS. RATED AND REPRESSED ITS PEOPLE.

84:21

-- E MS. RATED AND REPRESSED ITS PEOPLE.

84:24

BUT IT IS NOT A THREAT TO THE U.S. HOMELAND.

84:34

DAVID: I'M GOING TO ASSUME YOU HAVE

84:37

WATCHED THE PRESIDENT'S STATEMENT AND THERE IS THE PART

84:40

AT THE END WHERE HE RAISES THE POTENTIAL OF THERE BEING LOSS

84:44

OF U.S. LIFE. THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A

84:47

RESERVIST. HOW DID THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THAT

84:49

STATEMENT RESONATE WITH YOU AS YOU THINK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT

84:54

NOW, I GUESS POST-THIS HAVING TO JUSTIFY THE ACTIONS TO THE

85:01

AMERICAN PEOPLE?

85:02

>> THE AMERICAN TROOPS DESERVE A COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF WHO HAS TO

85:06

LAY OUT HIS RATIONALE IN FRONT OF THE REPRESENTATIVES.

85:10

WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR THE U.S. MILITARY YOU UNDERSTAND YOU MAY

85:13

BE RISKING YOUR LIFE FOR THE FLAG AND CONSTITUTION, BUT YOU

85:15

EXPECT YOUR COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF AND OFFICERS TO FOLLOW THE RULE

85:21

OF LAW, TO ENNOBLE THAT RISK YOU ARE TAKING.

85:22

HE IS FAILING TO DO SO. CHRISTINA:

85:27

YOU MENTIONED, WHAT IS THE END GAME HERE? IS IT CLEAR TO U.S.

85:32

FORCES WHAT THE MISSION IS HERE? IS THAT MISSION REGIME CHANGE?

85:37

DOES THE U.S. STILL DO THAT?

85:40

>> THAT IS A TERRIFIC QUESTION. I CAN REMEMBER BEING A YOUNG

85:45

LIEUTENANT IN AFGHANISTAN, PATROLLING TALIBAN-CONTESTED

85:48

VISION -- VILLAGES IN SOUTHERN AFGHANISTAN.

85:52

AND GIVING COMMANDS TO MY PLATOON AND NOT BEING ABLE TO

85:56

NEST THAT MISSION STATEMENT UP INTO A HIGHER COMMANDER'S

85:57

INTENT ABOUT, WHAT IS IT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE?

86:01

AND WHEN YOU DO THAT YOU UNDERMINE READINESS AND ESPRIT

86:04

DE CORPS WITHIN THE ARMED FORCES.

86:08

AND YOU MAKE IT HARDER FOR COMMISSIONED OFFICERS TO

86:11

EXECUTE . THIS PRESIDENT OWES A CLEAR

86:14

RATIONALE TO CONGRESS AND CONGRESS OWES THE AMERICAN

86:17

PEOPLE A DEBATE. FOR REGIME CHANGE, IF THAT IS

86:20

THE PRESIDENT'S INTENT, HE ALREADY LIVE TO THE IRANIAN

86:23

PROTESTERS ONCE. HE SAID HELP IS ON THE WAY.

86:25

THIS TIME AROUND WHAT IS THE NATURE OF SUPPORT HE WANTS TO

86:27

PROVIDE? IS THAT MEAN BOOTS ON THE

86:28

GROUND? DOES THAT MEAN COVERT ACTION?

86:32

CONGRESS SHOULD HAVE TO DEBATE THAT AND JUSTIFY IT TO OUR

86:39

CONSTITUENTS. DAVID:

86:40

CONGRESSMAN, WE SPOKE TO HER HAKEEM JEFFRIES, AND HE LAID

86:44

OUT A VERY GOOD CITIZEN -- CIVICS LESSON ABOUT THE ROLE

86:45

CONGRESS IS SUPPOSED TO PLAY HERE AND WHAT HE HOPES TO

86:46

HAPPEN. THERE ARE MANY AMERICANS,

86:52

DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, WHO ARE DISPIRITED AT THE ROLE

86:53

CONGRESS HAS PLAYED IN RECENT YEARS.

86:55

I THINK THEY MIGHT PERCEIVE IT AS BEING LESS TRUTHFUL AS THEY

87:04

HAVE IN THE PAST. -- TOOTHFULL AS IT HAS IN THE PAST. WHAT

87:08

WOULD YOU SAY IN LIGHT OF THIS AND HOW DO YOU SEE YOUR PARTY

87:09

WORKING TOGETHER TO RESPOND TO THIS?

87:16

>> THE AMERICAN PEOPLE A RIGHT TO BE FRUSTRATED WITH A

87:18

CONGRESS THAT HAS SIDELINED ITSELF AND ITS ARTICLE ONE

87:22

PREROGATIVES. WE ARE BEGINNING TO SEE

87:25

CONGRESS REASSERTING ITSELF ON TARIFFS, WITH TARIFF AND VOTES

87:26

IN THE HOUSE, ON THE EPSTEIN FILES.

87:30

THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WITH A WAR POWERS RESOLUTION

87:35

NEXT WEEK FOR CONGRESS TO RECLAIM ITS FUNDAMENTAL POWERS

87:38

THAT THE FRAMERS UNDERSTOOD BELONGED TO THE PEOPLE'S

87:39

REPRESENTATIVES AND NOT TO A CHIEF EXECUTIVE.

87:41

ULTIMATELY, I DO NOT EXPECT SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON TO BE

87:44

BRAVE. BUT I DO EXPECT IS FOR THE

87:47

AMERICAN PUBLIC TO DECIDE THAT IF HE WILL NOT BE BRAVE THEY

87:52

ARE GOING TO SEND PEOPLE TO CONGRESS WHO WILL BE AND

87:55

DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO WIN THE MIDTERMS AND WE WILL HOLD THIS

87:57

ADMINISTRATION TO ACCOUNT. CHRISTINA:

87:58

MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS THE SAME ONE I ASKED LEADER JEFFRIES --

88:03

WHAT CAN CONGRESS DO? IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO

88:05

STOP A PRESIDENT WHO WANTS TO TAKE THIS ACTION?

88:10

SOME OF YOUR REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WILL AFFECT AND JOIN

88:13

YOU, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE SAYING THAT IS NOT A

88:14

POSSIBILITY UNTIL THE MIDTERMS. REP. AUCHINCLOSS:

88:17

I THINK SOME OF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE MAY.

88:20

THIS WAR POWERS RESOLUTION WE ARE VOTING ON NEXT WEEK IS A

88:21

BIPARTISAN RESOLUTION. WHETHER IT GETS ENOUGH

88:30

REPUBLICAN VOTES IN THE HOUSE, TO PASS AND TO COMPEL ACTION IN

88:32

THE SENATE, IS ANOTHER MATTER.

88:38

BUT ULTIMATELY I THINK THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE

88:40

CONGRESS FULLY ASSERT ITS ARTICLE ONE POWERS.

88:42

THEY SHOULD NEVER EXPECT A BUNCH OF CONGRESSIONAL

88:45

REPUBLICANS TO BE THE COURAGEOUS LEADERS AT -- THAT

88:47

THIS MOMENT DEMANDS. DAVID: DO YOU LOOK AT THIS IN

88:50

ISOLATION? I RECALL AFTER THE U.S.

88:55

CAPTURED NICOLAS MADURO THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT

88:57

HAPPENED THERE COULD BE A TEMPLATE FOR OTHER PARTS OF THE

89:02

WORLD.

89:03

AS YOU LOOK AT THE PRESIDENT'S INCLINATION FOR ADVENTURISM, DO

89:04

YOU SEE THIS AS PART AND PARCEL AS A BROADER TRACK?

89:09

DO YOU WORRY THIS IS GOING TO LEAD TO MORE ADVENTURISM?

89:12

HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS INCIDENT IN A BROADER CONTEXT?

89:15

REP. AUCHINCLOSS: THE MIDDLE EAST IS COMPLICATED

89:17

ENOUGH. I DON'T TEND TO ANALOGIZE FROM

89:19

OTHER REGIONS, BECAUSE THE MIDDLE EAST HAS ITS OWN CONTEXT

89:21

WE HAVE TO BE HUMBLE ABOUT. BUT, JUST FOCUS ON THIS REGION,

89:28

I THINK WHAT IS CRITICAL IS FOR THERE TO BE A CONSISTENT

89:30

BIPARTISAN BLUEPRINT FOR HOW WE ARE APPROACHING IRAN.

89:33

WHAT I WOULD POSIT IS THAT TWO THINGS ARE CRITICAL.

89:38

FIRST, WE NEED AMERICAN AIR SUPREMACY IN THAT REGION.

89:40

THAT IS VITAL TO AMERICAN INTERESTS.

89:44

IRAN CANNOT RAIN DOWN TERROR FROM THE SKIES.

89:49

AND AMERICA DOES NEED TO SUPPORT IRON DOME, AND I WOULD

89:50

ARGUE A REGIONAL SYSTEM.

89:56

BUT NUMBER TWO IS, WE SHOULD BE WILLING TO OFFER A POLICY OF

89:57

MUTUAL NONINTERFERENCE WITH IRAN THAT SAYS, YOU STOP

90:02

MESSING AROUND IN SYRIA, IN IRAQ, OF COURSE WITH ISRAEL,

90:05

AND WE WILL NOT MESS IN YOUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS.

90:09

HE WILL SUPPORT THE RIGHT OF ALL PEOPLE TO HAVE FREEDOM OF

90:14

SPEECH, FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY, WE WILL NOT ATTEMPT REGIME CHANGE

90:16

SO LONG AS YOU STOP MESSING AROUND IN OTHER PEOPLES'S

90:19

AFFAIRS. CONGRESS COULD GET BEHIND THAT

90:20

BLUEPRINT AND HE COULD SIGNAL TO MODERATE SUCCESSORS VYING

90:24

FOR POWER AFTER THE AYATOLLAH DIES THAT THERE IS A PATH TO

90:27

BETTER RELATIONS AND AN IMPROVED ECONOMY.

90:29

BUT THAT CANNOT HAPPEN IF WE HAVE ONE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF

90:34

OFFERING MILITARY ACTION WITHOUT STRATEGIC RATIONALE.

90:37

CHRISTINA: I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THESE

90:40

NEGOTIATIONS THAT WERE HAPPENING BETWEEN STEVE

90:44

WITKOFF, JARED KUSHNER, AND IRANIAN COUNTERPARTS.

90:49

THE QUESTION I HAVE BEEN ASKING THIS MORNING IS, WAS THE U.S.

90:50

NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH? WE HAVE REPORTING THAT THE U.S.

90:54

AND ISRAEL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PLAN FOR WEEKS.

90:58

THEY LEFT THOSE TALKS, SCHEDULING ANOTHER ROUND OF

91:02

TALKS NEXT WEEK. YOU THINK THE ADMINISTRATION

91:05

WAS EVER SERIOUS ABOUT FINDING A PEACE DEAL WITH IRAN?

91:09

REP. AUCHINCLOSS: I THINK THEY WERE ABOUT A

91:12

SERIOUS ABOUT IT AS THEY WERE ABOUT DRUG INTERDICTION BEING A

91:15

CASUS BELLI IN VENEZUELA. CHRISTINA:

91:19

WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR U.S. CREDIBILITY WHEN IT TRIES TO

91:20

ENTER NEGOTIATIONS ELSEWHERE? I'M THINKING RUSSIA-UKRAINE,

91:25

I'M THINKING THESE CONFLICTS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DOES LIKE

91:28

TO TOWN AS A PEACE DEALER. -- TOUT AS A PEACE DEALER.

91:35

REP. AUCHINCLOSS: THE BIGGER PROBLEM FOR U.S.

91:38

CREDIBILITY IS WEAKNESS, ACTUALLY.

91:41

THIS PRESIDENT IN UKRAINE IS FUNDAMENTALLY NEGOTIATING FROM

91:43

A SELF-IMPOSED WEAK POSITION. AS OPPOSED TO AUTHORIZING

91:47

LONG-RANGE STRIKES AGAINST OIL FIND AREAS AROUND MOSCOW, FOR

91:49

EXAMPLE. AS OPPOSED TO TAKING RUSSIAN

91:53

ASSETS AND INVESTING THEM. AS OPPOSED TO SANCTIONING

91:56

RUSSIAN OIL EXPORTS. HE IS BASICALLY CEDING TO

92:00

RUSSIA'S TERRITORIAL DEMANDS. THAT IS OUR CORE WEAKNESS.

92:09

THE RECENT NATIONAL SECURITY DOCUMENT WAS A BACKPEDAL STANCE.

92:15

THAT IS OUR CORE ISSUE. THE CREDIBILITY ISSUE IS THERE,

92:18

BUT IT IS GOING TO BE THERE SO LONG AS THIS GUYS PRESIDENT.

92:20

WEAKNESS IS MORE A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY. DAVID:

92:24

CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU. THAT IS JAKE AUCHINCLOSS.

92:31

CHRISTINA, THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR FOCUS IN THE DAYS AHEAD.

92:34

HOW THOSE TWO DUELING WAR RESOLUTIONS WILL PLAY OUT IN

92:38

CONGRESS. CHRISTINA: FOR AN INTERVENTION IS NOT

92:40

SOMETHING THAT WAS AT THE CORE OF THIS PARTY ORIGINALLY.

92:43

WE HAVE SEEN IT EXPAND A BIT, BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS

92:46

POPULAR WITH REPUBLICANS RUNNING IN THESE MIDTERMS AND

92:50

TRYING TO KEEP THE FOCUS ON THE ECONOMY, ON THOSE KITCHEN TABLE

92:53

ISSUES THEIR CONSTITUENTS CARE ABOUT THAT.

92:58

IT IS UNCLEAR HOW A PROLONGED INTERVENTION IN IRAN IS GOING

92:59

TO PLAY WITH THAT DOMESTIC AUDIENCE. DAVID:

93:04

WE ARE FAR FROM THE AFFORDABLE -- AFFORDABILITY ON THIS ISSUE.

93:08

I WANT TO GO TO LISA MATEO. LISA:

93:13

BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY RELEASED ITS ANNUAL EARNINGS.

93:15

ITS ANNUAL REPORT.

93:21

AND THAT CEO LETTER FROM GREG ABELL. LET'S GET TO THE EARNINGS

93:26

FIRST. FOURTH-QUARTER OPERATING EARNINGS, 10 POINT $2 BILLION

93:28

VERSUS 14.3 BILLION DOLLARS YEAR-OVER-YEAR. THAT IS DOWN 30%

93:31

YEAR-OVER-YEAR. A BIG PART OF THAT WAS

93:34

INSURANCE UNDERWRITING PROFITS.

93:40

FOURTH-QUARTER INSURANCE OPERATING ON -- INCOME, FOUR

93:42

POINT FIVE 6 BILLION. THE COMPANY TOOK A 4.5 BILLION

93:46

DOLLARS IMPAIRMENT ON ITS KRAFT HEINZ OCCIDENTAL PETROLEUM

93:51

HOLDINGS. ITS CASH PILE FELL.

93:54

NOW, AS FOR THE LETTER, I WANT TO GET TO THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS

93:57

THE FIRST FROM ABEL AFTER TAKING OVER FOR WARREN BUFFETT.

94:02

HE OPENED THE LETTER WITH A TRIBUTE TO BUFFETT.

94:07

HE PROMISED TO MAINTAIN BROOKSHIRE CULTURE, CONTINUE

94:08

OPERATING THE WAY THEY WORK FOR YEARS.

94:12

BUFFETT DOES REMAIN THE LARGEST SHAREHOLDER.

94:17

ABEL WILL BE THE ONLY ONE ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

94:20

BUFFETT IS GOING TO BE WATCHING FROM THE FLOOR WITH THE REST OF

94:23

THE BOARD. THESE NUMBERS CLOSELY WATCHED

94:25

BECAUSE BROOKSHIRE'S BUSINESS DOES PROVIDE CRIME OVERVIEW OF

94:28

THE ECONOMY. THAT IS WHY THIS IS SUCH A

94:31

BELLWETHER FOR THE INDUSTRY. DAVID: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

94:36

THIS IS LISA MATEO JOINING US ON SET.

94:39

THIS NEXT SEGMENT IS GOING TO BE BEST LAID PLANS.

94:43

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANTHROPIC IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.

94:45

JULIA IOFFE.

94:51

WE WILL GET INTO THE COMPLEMENTARY BETWEEN WHAT IT

94:56

-- BETWEEN THIS AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN UKRAINE.

94:58

YOU COVER NATIONAL SECURITY UP LUMBER.

95:02

WE SELL REPORT SUBSTANTIVE -- STENTS OF CYBERATTACKS AS WELL.

95:05

DO YOU TRACKING? JULIA: I'M NOT THINKING ABOUT CLAUDE.

95:12

CLAUDE IS ON MAVEN SMART SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE OPERATING

95:15

SYSTEM U.S. MILITARY OPERATORS WILL BE

95:21

USING RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION,

95:27

BATTLE OVER WHAT THE ROLE OF -- ROLE IS IN COMBAT OPERATIONS.

95:29

THEY HAVE BEEN ASKED TO LEAVE U.S.

95:32

GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS, YET THEY ARE PROBABLY USED RIGHT NOW.

95:34

IN TERMS OF CYBER OPERATIONS IT IS A WAIT AND SEE.

95:37

OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A SENSE THAT A LOT WILL BE SUPPORTING THESE

95:38

MILITARY OPERATIONS.

95:40

DAVID: JUST WANT TO PUT A FINE POINT

95:48

ON THIS.

95:50

I WON'T EVEN CALL IT PARTICULAR TIMING.

95:53

IT IS STRANGE TIMING THEY WOULD -- THIS WOULD HAPPEN.

95:59

>> I'M ASSUMING THEY COULD DO THIS ANALOG STYLE, BUT THERE IS

96:03

A SENSE THEY ARE STILL ACTIVELY USING THIS SOFTWARE RIGHT NOW.

96:05

KATRINA: FOR THE CYBER OPERATIONS?

96:07

CLAUDE? CLAUDE IS ON THE MAIN MILITARY

96:13

SYSTEM THAT IS USED AS A GATOR BATTLE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

96:15

IT IS NOT THE KEY TOOL IN ANY WAY, BUT IS USED TO ANALYZE

96:19

DATA, BRING DATA TOGETHER, AND DO WHAT WE DO WITH CHATBOTS,

96:21

SUMMARIZE THINGS.

96:27

IT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS ON CLASSIFIED CLOUD, AND OF COURSE

96:29

THE PRESIDENT GAVE THEM SIX MONTHS TO GET OFF, AND THEY

96:33

HAVE NOT HAD AN OFFICIAL

96:39

REQUEST TO HAVE THAT SUPPLY CHAIN RISK THAT PETE HEGSETH

96:44

TALKED ABOUT AARON BUT THEY WILL BE BEING USED RIGHT NOW

96:46

AND THERE IS NO REASON TO HAVE THEM STOP.

96:50

THE EXECUTIVE OF ANTHROPIC SAID, WE WANT TO CONTINUE

96:51

SUPPORTING IN ANY TRANSITION. CHRISTINA:

96:55

JULIA, TAKE US OUT FOR THE BIG PICTURE.

96:57

HAVE TALKED ABOUT AMERICAN TRUSTWORTHINESS.

97:00

HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS COULD IMPACT OTHER CONFLICTS.

97:05

WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN AFGHANISTAN AND IT HAD A KNOCK

97:06

ON EFFECT IN OTHER PLACES. WHAT DOES THIS CONFLICT DO FOR

97:11

OTHER CONFLICTS AROUND THE WORLD? JULIA:

97:18

OH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WATCHING THIS I WAS REMINDED OF THE

97:27

WINTER OF 2021-2022, WHEN THE U.S. WAS TRYING TO ENGAGE WITH

97:33

RUSSIA DIPLOMATICALLY FOR MONTHS, GOING BACK IN

97:34

DIPLOMATIC NEGOTIATIONS OVER UKRAINE. CHRISTINA:

97:37

I WAS THERE IN GENEVA. JULIA: THERE YOU GO, RIGHT?

97:44

AND THE RUSSIANS WERE SAYING -- PEOPLE WERE SAYING, THE

97:46

RUSSIANS ARE NOT NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH, THEY ARE GOING TO

97:48

INVADE ANYWAY, AND THE RUSSIANS SAID, NO, WE HAVE NO PLANS, WE

97:53

HAVE NO PLANS TO INVADE UKRAINE, WE ARE TRYING TO --

97:58

AND UKRAINE CANNOT BE IN NATO,

98:04

THEY CAN JUST NOT BE IN NATO, WE ARE NEGOTIATING IN GOOD

98:05

FAITH. IT TURNS OUT THEY WERE NOT.

98:07

THEY WERE GOING TO INVADE ANYWAY AND I CANNOT HELP IT HE

98:11

REMINDED OF THAT THIS MORNING. THAT THESE NEGOTIATIONS, IT

98:15

SEEMED LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ASKING THE IMPOSSIBLE OF

98:18

IRAN WHILE BUILDING UP THESE FORCES IN THE REGION.

98:22

LIKE CHEKHOV'S GUN, RIGHT? IF YOU PUT THAT STUFF THERE IT

98:26

HAS TO GO OFF, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO USE IT.

98:30

YES, BUYING TIME BECAUSE OF COURSE OUR RESOURCES WERE

98:33

STRETCHED THIN. THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER GERALD

98:35

FORD WAS IN VENEZUELA. CHRISTINA:

98:41

WE HAVE BEEN A BIT OF -- A BIT BUSY IN VENEZUELA COMING UP.

98:43

JULIA: TIME TO GET TO THE MIDDLE EAST,

98:47

BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO GIVE HIMSELF AS A MAN OF ACTION.

98:50

WE HAVE BEEN TWO MONTHS WITHOUT MILITARY INTERVENTION.

98:51

NO, IT IS A LONG TIME. CHRISTINA:

98:56

FUNNY YOU MENTIONED THAT I WAS TALKING TO A REPUBLICAN AND HE

99:04

SAID TO ME, THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T MOVE YOUR FIREPOWER TO

99:07

VENEZUELA, BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS NEED THAT FIREPOWER IN THE

99:10

MIDDLE EAST. DAVID: I'M LOOKING AT A STATEMENT FROM

99:14

EMMANUEL MACRON AND PRIME MINISTER KEIR STARMER

99:17

CONDEMNING THE MILITARY ACTION IRAN HAS TAKEN IN THE PAST BUT

99:19

NOTING WE DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE STRIKES.

99:25

JULIA, ON THAT POINT, I'M CURIOUS HOW YOU SEE WHAT HAS

99:26

HAPPENED HERE REVERBERATING AROUND EUROPEAN CAPITALS?

99:31

WE HAD HOPED TO BRING YOU ON TO TALK ABOUT UKRAINE ON THE

99:32

FOURTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE INVASION THERE.

99:36

STILL VERY MUCH EUROPE'S FOCUS. NOW HAVING TO NAVIGATE THIS

99:40

ATTACK. JULIA: TO ME THAT WAS ONE OF THE HINTS

99:47

THAT TRUMP WAS GOING TO DO THIS ANYWAY, BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR

99:50

EUROPEAN PARTNERS AND ALLIES DO STILL HAVE CONTACTS WITH THE

99:54

IRANIAN REGIME, DO HAVE DIPLOMATIC PRESENCE IN IRAN.

99:57

CHRISTINA: THEY ACT AS OUR PROXIES AND

99:58

HAVE FOR YEARS. JULIA: WE COULD HAVE USED THEIR HELP

100:03

IN THIS IF WE HAD BEEN ACTUALLY NEGOTIATING.

100:05

I THINK THIS IS YET ANOTHER SIDELINING OF EUROPE.

100:10

ANOTHER KIND OF TRYING TO RELEGATE THEM TO IRRELEVANCE.

100:13

I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION SEES THEM AS WEAK AND FECKLESS

100:15

AND PROBABLY EFFEMINATE, GIVEN HOW THIS ADMINISTRATION TENDS

100:17

TO VIEW THINGS. AS FOR OUR ALLIES, I THINK IT

100:22

IS INTERESTING THAT THE SAUDI'S CAME OUT AND SAID THEY SUPPORT

100:23

THIS. CHRISTINA: THE CANADIANS AS WELL.

100:28

MARK CARNEY HAS BEEN CRITICAL OF THE PRESIDENT.

100:32

I HAVE A STATEMENT IN FRONT OF ME.

100:38

JULIA: SO, I THINK WHAT IS INTERESTING

100:41

HERE, MARK CARNEY SPOKE AT DAVOS AND SAID, WE ARE

100:42

BASICALLY OUT OF THIS. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN USING OUR

100:46

ALLIANCE AS A TOOL AGAINST US, WE ARE OUT OF PAX AMERICANA.

100:51

ESSENTIALLY, PEACE, GUYS. NOW THEY ARE ON BOARD, THE

100:54

AUSTRALIANS ARE ON BOARD. THE SIGNAL THIS IS LIKELY

100:58

SENDING TO TRUMPETS, THESE GUYS TALK A BIG GAME, BUT THEY ARE

101:02

GOING TO SUPPORT US ANYWAY.

101:08

I THINK THIS IS, JUST LIKE VENEZUELA, REINFORCED THIS,

101:12

JUST LIKE HIS AIRSTRIKES IN IRAN IN JUNE REINFORCED THIS

101:13

IDEA, THAT HE CAN GET AWAY WITH THINGS.

101:16

IF HE PUSHES HARD ENOUGH PEOPLE WILL GO ALONG WITH IT, NO

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MATTER WHAT.

101:23

DAVID: KATRINA, WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE

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MILITARY MIGHT THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO BEAR IN THE GULF.

101:29

COULD YOU PULL BACK THE CURTAIN AND GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT THE

101:30

U.S. MIGHT BE DOING WHEN IT COMES TO

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ATTACKING CYBER INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN IRAN? KATRINA:

101:40

THE WAY CYBER OPERATIONS HAVE EMERGED IS, THEY DON'T YIELD

101:41

THE CATASTROPHIC BLOW. THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

101:44

TRAILING FOR YEARS. THAT CYBER COULD BE A KIND OF,

101:50

ALMOST THE SAME AS THE 9/11 ATTACKS. IT IS NO CYBER 9/11.

101:55

WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE RUN-UP TO THE RUSSIAN INVASION OF

101:58

UKRAINE, IN THE WAY THE U.S. USED CYBERATTACKS, AND I

102:03

SUSPECT WHAT WE WILL EVENTUALLY LEARN HAS HAPPENED HERE, IS

102:08

THAT CYBER IS A PRECURSOR TO MILITARY OPERATIONS.

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IT SOFTENS THE GROUND. IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR KINETIC

102:13

ACTION -- THAT IS WHAT THE U.S.

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USES, THE WORD USED TO SUGGEST EXPLOSIONS.

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IT MAKES THOSE EASIER SO THAT IRAN FINDS IT HARDER TO

102:25

RESPOND, TO LAUNCH ITS OWN MISSILE DEFENSES AND LAUNCH

102:26

ATTACKS. CLEARLY THEY ARE LAUNCHING

102:28

ATTACKS. CYBER CANNOT STOP EVERYTHING.

102:33

IT IS THE WAY ONE WOULD SUSPECT TO SEE A TOOL LIKE CYBER USED.

102:38

YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE AN ESSAY INVOLVED AND CYBER

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COMMAND. CHRISTINA:

102:44

IN ADDITION TO CYBER AND MILITARY COOPERATION AND

102:46

DIPLOMATIC COOPERATION, THERE IS ALSO INTELLIGENCE SHARING.

102:49

IT HAS BEEN SOMETHING COMPLICATED BY THESE UNILATERAL

102:50

MOVES BY THE U.S. FIVE EYES IS UNDER STRESS.

102:54

REGIONAL ALLIES ARE LESS LIKELY TO SHARE THINGS WITH THE U.S.

103:01

WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATE OF THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH U.S.

103:05

GULF ALLIES? I THINK ABOUT THE JORDANIANS IN

103:08

PARTICULAR. AND WITH OUR EUROPEAN ALLIES,

103:12

USUALLY WOULD BE BACKING UP AN OPERATION LIKE THIS? KATRINA:

103:17

-- JULIA: AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE

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AT MUNICH. WHEN I HEARD THERE WAS, FIVE

103:25

EYES, THE INTELLIGENCE SHARING ARRANGEMENT, IS UNDER STRESS

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AND UNDER DOUBT.

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ALL KINDS OF INTELLIGENCE SHARING IS UNDER QUESTION.

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IS THE THING WE VERY MUCH NEED RIGHT NOW.

103:41

I THINK THIS IS A AMERICA-FIRST, AMERICA-ALONE,

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AND YOU GUYS GET IN LINE. I THINK MARCO RUBIO'S SPEECH

103:47

LAID THIS OUT PERFECTLY. HERE IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO

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THIS. IF YOU WANT TO GET ON BOARD,

103:51

GET ON BOARD. IF NOT, GET OFF, LOSERS, WE ARE

103:55

DOING THIS ANYWAY. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW.

103:59

BECAUSE THEY ARE SEEING THE

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SAUDI'S FALLEN LINE, CANADIANS, -- FALL IN LINE, THE CANADIANS,

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IT REINFORCES THIS. DAVID:

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THE NATIONAL BOOK AWARD FINALIST. THANK YOU BOTH FOR

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JOINING US HERE IN NEW YORK AS WE CONTINUE TO COVER THIS

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BREAKING NEWS ON THIS SATURDAY MORNING.

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THOSE UNEXPECTED STRIKES BY THE U.S. ON IRAN.

104:24

THE PRESIDENT'S STATEMENT. NO AUDIENCE IN THE ROOM FOR

104:29

THOSE REMARKS, BUT INDICATING THIS IS GOING TO BE A SUSTAINED

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ATTACK AND EXPLAINED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THERE COULD BE

104:36

U.S. CASUALTIES. CHRISTINA: THIS IS A SOCIAL MEDIA

104:38

PRESIDENT AND HE HAS LEARNED HE CAN SPEAK DIRECTLY TO HIS

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AUDIENCE WITHOUT THE INTERVENTION OF US.

104:41

WE WILL HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS FROM LAWMAKERS AND ANALYSTS AND

104:44

OUR REPORTERS. WE HAVE GOT COVERAGE ALL OVER

104:46

THE GLOBE. STICK WITH US. WE WILL BE HERE.

104:49

105:03

CHRISTINA: WELCOME BACK. WE ARE TRACKING BREAKING NEWS

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THE MIDDLE EAST THIS MORNING. STRIKES IN IRAN.

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A JOINT MILITARY OPERATION BETWEEN ISRAEL AND THE UNITED

105:14

STATES. WE ARE HEARING ABSTRACTS CLOSE

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TO OR ON U.S. INSTALLATIONS THROUGHOUT THE

105:20

REGION. OUR COLLEAGUES IN TEL AVIV HAVE

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BEEN TAKING COVER SINCE THE EARLY HOURS OF THE MORNING.

105:26

DAVID: CHARTING WHAT THIS MEANS FOR

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THOSE COUNTRIES, WHAT IT MEANS POLITICALLY AND MARKETS AND THE

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ECONOMY AS WELL, I WANT TO BRING IN OUR COLLEAGUE, A CHIEF

105:37

EMERGING MARKETS ECONOMIST. AS WE THINK THROUGH WHAT THIS

105:41

MEANS FOR OIL IN PARTICULAR, WHAT SHOULD WE BE PAYING

105:47

ATTENTION TO?

105:48

IN THE RUN-UP TO THIS THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THIS

105:49

MEAN FOR THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. IF YOU LOOK ON THE MAP AND SEE

105:57

THOSE TANKERS THERE IN THE REGION, THE HEADS OF THOSE

105:59

SHIPS WONDERING WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR

106:00

THE OIL MARKET?

106:04

>> THERE ARE STILL OPEN QUESTIONS.

106:08

IN THE LAST 12 HOURS I THINK WE HAD FOUR KEY QUESTIONS WHEN IT

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COMES TO IRAN.

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THE FIRST QUESTION WAS, WILL THE U.S. AND ISRAEL ATTACK IRAN?

106:19

YES, THEY HAVE. THE SECOND QUESTION WAS, WITH

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THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT SURVIVED THE ATTACK?

106:24

THE ANSWER IS, YES, THEY HAVE. THE THIRD QUESTION IS, WILL THE

106:31

IRANIAN RETALIATION BE SIGNIFICANT, OR SYMBOLIC, LIKE

106:35

PREVIOUS WARS? ACTUALLY, THEY WENT FOR

106:36

SYMBOLIC. THE LAST QUESTION IS, WHAT WILL

106:40

IRAN RETALIATE AGAINST? WILL IT RESTRICT ITSELF TO U.S.

106:46

BASES IN ISRAEL, OR EXPAND TO ALL FACILITIES IN THE REGION?

106:49

SO FAR IT HAS ATTACKED U.S. BASES ACROSS THE REGION AND

106:56

ISRAEL, BUT YOU CANNOT RULE OUT ATTACKS AGAINST ALL FACILITIES

106:58

AND THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ IN THE COMING HOURS AND DAYS.

107:00

CHRISTINA: WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SANCTIONS.

107:03

THE AMERICAN ECONOMY HAS BEEN SUFFERING UNDER U.S.

107:05

AND INTERNATIONAL SANCTIONS. WE HAVE SANCTIONS EARLIER THIS

107:09

YEAR. WHAT IS THE STATE OF IRAN'S

107:13

ECONOMY AND WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF A PROLONGED CONFLICT LIKE

107:17

THIS GOING TO DO ON AN ECONOMY THAT IS ALREADY UNDER DIRE

107:22

STRAITS? ZIAD: THERE ARE TWO THINGS HERE.

107:25

THE FIRST IS, WHEN IT COMES TO THE IRANIAN ECONOMY, IT'S STATE

107:30

IS ALREADY DIRE. THAT HAS LED TO PROTESTS.

107:32

THIS WAR IS NOT ABOUT THE ECONOMY.

107:36

FOR THE RAINY AND LEADERSHIP THIS IS ABOUT SURVIVAL AND IT

107:39

IS ABOUT MORE MILITARY THAN ECONOMIC.

107:42

IF THEY CAN SURVIVE THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, IT IS A QUESTION OF

107:45

NOT WHETHER THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE IN

107:49

TERMS OF INFLATION, IN TERMS OF CURRENCY, BUT WHETHER THEY CAN

107:55

SURVIVE THE MILITARY ATTACK AND COUNTERATTACKS.

107:57

THAT IS THE KEY QUESTION FOR IRAN MORE THAN THE ECONOMY IN

107:58

THE COMING DAYS AND WEEKS. DAVID:

108:04

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, HOW INTEGRAL IS IRAN TO THE GLOBAL

108:05

OIL MARKET? WE HAD AN OPEC PLUS DELEGATE

108:10

INDICATING PRODUCTION COULD INCREASE.

108:14

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MARKET HOLISTICALLY, HOW IMPORTANT IS

108:16

IRAN TO OIL PRODUCTION GLOBALLY? ZIAD:

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IRAN IS SIGNIFICANT, BUT IT IS NOT IRREPLACEABLE.

108:24

IRAN PRODUCES ABOUT 5% OF THE GLOBAL OIL SUPPLIES, YOU KNOW,

108:27

PUT THROUGH THE WORLD. THAT IS NOT THE KEY ISSUE.

108:31

THE KEY ISSUE IS THE WIDER REGION.

108:34

ONCE YOU EXPAND THE WAR YOU NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT

108:36

SAUDI ARABIA AND UAE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ONE THIRD

108:44

OF GLOBAL OIL SURPRISE -- SUPPLIES.

108:46

THE STRAIGHT OF HORMUZ, BASICALLY 20% OF GLOBAL OIL

108:49

FLOWS GO THROUGH THAT, AND THAT IS DIFFICULT TO REPLACE.

108:53

OPEC-PLUS MAY DECIDE TO INCREASE THEIR QUOTAS, BUT

108:58

THESE ADDITIONAL QUOTAS COMING FROM SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAQ AND

109:02

THEY CANNOT EXIT THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ, THEY MAY NOT BE

109:04

EFFECTIVE, AND HEDGING THE LOSSES FROM THIS WAR. CHRISTINA:

109:09

WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT OF STRIKES COULD BE, BUT

109:12

WHAT IS THE PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPACT ON PRODUCTION HERE?

109:15

WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN SOME OIL FIELDS SHUTTING DOWN

109:18

PREEMPTIVELY. COULD THAT HAVE JUST AS BIG OF

109:21

AN IMPACT AS PRODUCERS DO NOT WANT TO SEND THEIR SHIPS AT THE

109:22

MOMENT? THEY ARE PULLING THEIR PERSONNEL OUT OF HARM'S WAY?

109:26

HOW BIG AN IMPACT COULD THAT HAVE? ZIAD:

109:31

I THINK THE PHYSICAL, SORT OF THREATS, OR MORE IMPORTANT THAN

109:33

PSYCHOLOGICAL. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST WAR IN

109:37

THE MIDDLE EAST IN THE LAST 2.5 YEARS. CHRISTINA:

109:40

THIS IS A GOOD POINT. ZIAD:

109:46

THE MIDDLE EAST HAS BEEN IN ALMOST AN CONTINUOUS STATE OF

109:50

WAR. YET OIL PRICES TODAY, ON FRIDAY

109:57

THEY CLOSED AT $72 A BARREL. IN 2023 THERE WERE $85 A BARREL.

110:02

I THINK ON THE PSYCHOLOGY, MARKETS ARE SORT OF GETTING

110:05

USED TO THE GEOPOLITICAL ESCALATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

110:09

THE KEY QUESTION HERE IS IF WE ARE GOING TO GET PHYSICAL

110:11

DISRUPTION. THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST

110:13

SERIOUS TEST IN THE LAST 2.5 YEARS.

110:19

DAVID: I JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT HE

110:22

MENTIONED THAT THERE, THE FACT THAT IRAN'S ECONOMY WAS IN SUCH

110:26

A REDUCED STATE GOING INTO THIS. AS WE TALK ABOUT THE RINDS WE

110:31

SEE TO PAST TIMES WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN THESE NEGOTIATIONS

110:35

SURROUNDING IRAN, A REALLY HUGE DISTINCTION THIS TIME AROUND

110:37

WAS HOW UP AGAINST THE WALL IRAN WAS BECAUSE OF HOW REDUCED

110:38

ITS ECONOMY WAS. CHRISTINA: WE HAVE SOME NEW HEADLINES

110:42

CROSSING HERE ON THE TERMINAL. TURKEY IS DISTANCING ITSELF

110:47

FROM THE U.S. AND ISRAELI CAMPAIGN AFTER IRAN

110:50

THREATENED TO TARGET ANY COUNTRY THAT SERVICES THESE

110:52

ATTACKS. THE U.S. FREQUENTLY USES SOME OF THEIR

110:55

MILITARY BASES. THE NATO MEMBER SAYS IT DOES

111:00

NOT PERMIT ANY OF ITS AIR, LAND, OR MARITIME ASSETS,

111:03

INCLUDING ITS AIRSPACE, TO BE USED FOR OPERATIONAL PURPOSES

111:06

IN WAR IN WHICH IT IS NOT A PARTY. DAVID:

111:09

WE ARE DOING THIS MORNING IS COLLATING AND GOING THROUGH THE

111:12

REACTION IN THE UNITED STATES. CERTAINLY FROM LAWMAKERS, BUT

111:15

LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD AS WELL.

111:19

WE MENTIONED THE REACTION WE HAVE SEEN FROM FREDERICK MERS,

111:23

FROM KEIR STARMER, FROM EMMANUEL MACRON, ACKNOWLEDGING

111:25

WHAT HAS HAPPENED, BUT EMPHASIZING THERE WERE NOT PART

111:26

OF THE STRIKES. HE BROUGHT UP TURKEY.

111:30

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO SUSTAIN FOCUS IN THE WORLD

111:31

AHEAD. HOW THE WORLD RESPONDS TO WHAT

111:34

THE U.S. HAS DONE WITH ISRAEL. CHRISTINA:

111:38

THIS WAS NOT GOING TO BE AN ISOLATED CONFLICT.

111:40

WE ARE HERE AND TRACKING HOW THE WORLD RESPONDS. DAVID:

111:45

THE NEXT HOUR OF BLOOMBERG "THIS WEEKEND" STARTS NOW.

112:05

DAVID: THIS IS THE DEBUT OF BLOOMBERG

112:06

"THIS WEEKEND." WE DO SPECIAL COVERAGE OF WHAT

112:13

HAS HAPPENED OVER THE COURSE OF THE EVENING, STRIKES ON IRAN.

112:15

CHRISTINA: WE ARE HERE WITH LISA MATEO.

112:20

THERE IS REALLY STILL ONLY ONE STORY WE ARE COVERING THIS

112:23

MORNING, AND THAT IS IRAN. EARLY THIS MORNING, BEFORE MOST

112:27

OF US WERE AWAKE AND BEFORE WE CAME ON THE AIR THE U.S.

112:29

AND ISRAEL LAUNCHED A STRIKES ON IRAN. DAVID:

112:33

IRAN, WE HAVE SEEN RETALIATE. THOSE STRIKES ARE ONGOING

112:37

ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST. I'M GOING TO TURN TO OUR COLLEAGUE,

112:42

LISA MATEO. LISA:

112:44

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS SAYING A MASSIVE OPERATION IS UNDERWAY

112:46

TO ENSURE TEHRAN DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

112:50

HAVE BOTH HE AND ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER AND JIM, THEY CALLED

112:52

ON IRANIANS TO OVERTHROW THE REGIME. HERE IS WHAT WE KNOW.

112:59

THERE WERE SEVERAL LARGE EXPLOSIONS IN TEHRAN.

113:03

IRAN QUICKLY RETALIATING. A WAVE OF MISSILES AND DRONES

113:06

TARGETING U.S. INTEREST IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

113:10

THAT INCLUDES THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, QATAR, AND KUWAIT.

113:15

BAHRAIN SAID AN AMERICAN BASE IN THE COUNTRY HAD COME UNDER

113:16

ATTACK AS WELL.

113:17

QATAR AND THE UAE REPORTED INTERCEPTIONS IN THEIR

113:21

TERRITORY. WE DID HAVE RESPONSES FROM

113:25

WORLD LEADERS. MARK CARNEY SAID HIS COUNTRY'

113:31

IS POSITION REMAINS CLEAR, THAT IRAN MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO

113:32

DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS. WE WANT TO GET TO OUR OTHER TOP

113:36

STORY FOR TODAY. THAT IS BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY.

113:40

IT HAS RELEASED ITS ANNUAL REPORT, FOURTH-QUARTER

113:44

EARNINGS, AS WELL AS A LETTER FROM CEO GREG ABELL.

113:50

THE OPERATING PROFITS FELL NEARLY 30%.

113:52

IT IS ONE BUFFETT'S LAST QUARTER AS CEO.

113:55

IT BIG PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT WAS DROP IN INSURANCE

114:01

UNDERWRITING. THOSE PROFITS HAD SLUMPED.

114:03

THE COMPANY TOOK A $4.5 BILLION IMPAIRMENT ON ITS KRAFT HEINZ,

114:08

OCCIDENTAL PETROLEUM HOLDINGS. ITS CASH PILE FELL TO $373

114:12

BILLION. AS FOR THAT LETTER, IT IS THE

114:17

FIRST FROM ABEL AFTER TAKING OVER FROM WARREN BUFFETT.

114:20

HE OPENED THE LETTER WITH A TRIBUTE TO BUFFETT.

114:27

PROMISED TO MAINTAIN BURKE SHIRE -- BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY

114:29

CULTURE. THERE IS A SHAREHOLDER MEETING

114:34

IN MAY. BUFFETT WILL BE WATCHING FROM

114:37

THE FLOOR WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD AS WELL. CHRISTINA:

114:43

WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THAT MORE ON MONDAY.

114:47

WE WANT TO GET TO THE NEWS OF THE HOUR, AND THAT IS THIS

114:48

CONFLICT IN IRAN. THIS MORNING WE SAW A VIDEO

114:51

DROP FROM MAR-A-LAGO. NO REPORTERS WERE PRESENT.

114:56

HE IS WEARING A HAT. HE IS SPEAKING IN FRONT OF A

114:57

PODIUM. DAVID: THAT IS PRETTY WILD.

115:00

THE VIDEO DID DROP AND WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT WEARING A USA

115:08

GOLF CAP. CHRISTINA:

115:10

THEY DID NOT CALL THE POOL, THEY DID NOT GET ANY SORT OF

115:12

WARNING. REALLY REMARKABLE STATEMENT.

115:18

THE PRESIDENT SAYS A SHORT TIME AGO THE U.S.

115:21

MILITARY BEGAN A COMBAT OPERATION IN IRAN.

115:24

OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO DEFEND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY ELIMINATING

115:26

IMMINENT THREATS FROM THE IRANIAN REGIME, A VICIOUS GROUP

115:27

OF HARD, TERRIBLE PEOPLE. PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID HE TRIED

115:30

TO MAKE A DEAL. PRES. TRUMP:

115:36

WE SAWED REPEATEDLY TO MAKE A DEAL. WE TRIED.

115:38

THEY WANTED TO DO IT, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT.

115:41

AGAIN THEY WANTED TO DO IT, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT.

115:44

THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

115:49

JUST WANTED TO PRACTICE PEOPLE. IRAN REFUSED, JUST AS IT HAS

115:51

FOR DECADES AND DECADES. THEY REJECTED EVERY OPPORTUNITY

115:55

TO RENOUNCE THEIR NUCLEAR AMBITIONS, AND WE CAN'T TAKE IT

116:02

ANYMORE. INSTEAD, THEY ATTEMPTED TO

116:05

REBUILD THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND TO CONTINUE DEVELOPING THE

116:08

LONG-RANGE MISSILES THAT CAN NOW THREATEN OUR VERY GOOD

116:15

FRIENDS AND ALLIES IN EUROPE, OUR TROOPS STATIONED OVERSEAS.

116:18

AND COULD SOON REACH THE AMERICAN HOMELAND.

116:23

JUST IMAGINE HOW EMBOLDENED THIS REGIME WOULD BE IF THEY

116:28

EVER HAD AND ACTUALLY WERE ARMED WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS AS A

116:30

MEANS TO DELIVER THEIR MESSAGE.

116:36

FOR THESE REASONS THE UNITED STATES MILITARY IS UNDERTAKING

116:38

A MASSIVE AND ONGOING OPERATION TO PREVENT THIS VERY WICKED,

116:44

RADICAL DICTATORSHIP FROM THREATENING AMERICA AND OUR

116:46

CORE NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS.

116:50

WE ARE GOING TO DESTROY THEIR MISSILES AND RAISE THEIR

116:51

MISSILE INDUSTRY TO THE GROUND.

116:57

IT WILL BE TOTALLY, AGAIN, OBLITERATED.

117:00

YOU'RE GOING TO ANNIHILATE THEIR NAVY.

117:05

WE ARE GOING TO ENSURE THAT THE REGION'S TERRORIST PROXIES CAN

117:06

NO LONGER DESTABILIZE THE REGION OR THE WORLD.

117:08

AND ATTACK OUR FORCES. AND NO LONGER USE THEIR IED'S

117:15

OR ROADSIDE BOMBS, AS THEY ARE SOMETIMES CALLED, TO SO GRAVELY

117:20

WOUNDED AND KILL THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING

117:25

MANY AMERICANS. WE WILL ENSURE THAT IRAN DOES

117:29

NOT OBTAIN A NUCLEAR WEAPON. IT IS A VERY SIMPLE MESSAGE.

117:32

THEY WILL NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

117:36

THIS REGIME WILL SOON LEARN THAT NO ONE SHOULD CHALLENGE

117:41

THE STRENGTH AND MIGHT OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

117:44

DAVID: THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT IN A

117:46

STATEMENT HE RELEASED AFTER THOSE STRIKES BEGAN.

117:49

THE PRESIDENT AT MAR-A-LAGO IN FLORIDA.

117:52

COVERING THIS IN NEW YORK WE HAVE JOE MATHIEU ALONGSIDE JEFF

117:56

MASON. JOUMANNA BERCETCHE IS WITH US

118:00

AS WELL. JEFF, LET ME TURN TO YOU.

118:05

I HEAR THE PRESIDENT USING THESE COUNTERFACTUAL SPIRIT

118:08

IMAGINE IF IRAN HAD A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

118:11

HE SAID IN THE STATE OF THE UNION THEY WILL NEVER BE

118:12

ALLOWED TO HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON. LEVEL SET FOR US.

118:17

WE SAW THOSE STRIKES IN JUNE. THE U.S.

118:21

AND ISRAEL ATTACKING IRAN TO DO AWAY WITH THAT PROGRAM.

118:22

HE EXPRESSED CONFIDENCE HE HAD DONE THAT.

118:25

WHAT IS THE STATE OF PLAY? IS THE PRESIDENT TRAVELS AROUND

118:28

THE COUNTRY, HAS TO SELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ON WHAT HAS

118:31

HAPPENED HERE, HOW EASY IS THAT GOING TO BE TO DO IN LIGHT OF

118:33

WHAT THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND WAS? JEFF:

118:37

THERE IS CERTAINLY SOME SELLING GOING ON THERE.

118:39

IN PARTICULAR ONE OF THE ADJECTIVES THAT STOOD OUT TO ME

118:43

WAS HIM SAYING IMMINENT REST. IS THERE AN IMMINENT THREAT?

118:46

IS THAT SOMETHING THE UNITED STATES IS GOING TO GIVE MORE

118:47

INFORMATION ON? WE WERE JUST HOLDING TALKS WITH

118:52

IRAN AND SAID TALKS WERE GOING TO CONTINUE NEXT WEEK IN VIENNA.

118:55

THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO PULLED THE UNITED STATES OUT OF WHAT

118:58

CHRISTINA REFERRED TO AS THE JCPOA, WHICH WAS THE NUCLEAR

119:01

AGREEMENT THAT HAPPENED DURING BARACK OBAMA'S ADMINISTRATION.

119:04

HE HAS SAID HE WANTED TO HAVE TALKS, BUT HE HAS CHOSEN OUT TO

119:11

GO TO WAR. THAT IS THE WORD HE USED.

119:15

WAR IS NOT POPULAR IN THE UNITED STATES.

119:17

IT IS NOT POPULAR WITH HIS BASE, FOR SURE, BECAUSE OF THE

119:22

FOREIGN INTERVENTION ASPECT OF THAT.

119:24

AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, THIS COUNTRY IS GOING INTO MIDTERM

119:29

ELECTIONS IN NOVEMBER AT A TIME WHEN A LOT OF AMERICANS ARE

119:31

FOCUSED ON THEIR POCKETBOOKS AND THE PRESIDENT IS ALREADY A

119:33

LITTLE ON THE DEFENSIVE ABOUT THE PRICES OF GOODS.

119:36

NOW HE WILL HAVE TO DEFEND THIS WAR AND WE WILL SEE HOW WELL IT

119:41

GOES. IF IT IS SUCCESSFUL, IN SOME

119:44

WAYS LIKE VENEZUELA WAS, THAT OPERATION WAS QUICK AND HE WAS

119:48

ABLE TO PAINT IT AS A SUCCESS, IT MAY NOT BE A POLITICAL

119:53

ALBATROSS. IF IT GOES ON FOR LONG TIME,

119:57

WHICH THEY ARE SUGGESTING IT COULD, AND IF THERE ARE

119:59

AMERICAN CASUALTIES, WHICH THE PRESIDENT SPECIFICALLY SAID WAS

120:04

A POSSIBILITY, THEN THAT COULD CERTAINLY HURT HIM POLITICALLY.

120:06

CHRISTINA: I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS

120:07

IMMINENT THREAT LANGUAGE. IT WAS A SURPRISE TO HEAR THE

120:11

PRESIDENT SAY WAR, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE ENUMERATED POWERS

120:16

OF THE CONSTITUTION. THAT IS CONGRESS'S JOB.

120:20

THE WAY PRESIDENTS HAVE TAKEN THESE STRIKES, DOES THAT

120:24

ARGUMENT HOLD WATER?

120:30

DURING THE FIRST TERMED THIS ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO MAKE

120:31

THE CASE THAT IRAN WAS COLLABORATING WITHOUT KENYATTA

120:35

-- AL QAEDA SO THEY CAN STRIKE IRAN.

120:37

EVEN THEIR CONGRESSIONAL ALLIES DID NOT BUY THAT THE FIRST TIME

120:41

AROUND. JOE: THE SELLING IS GOING TO HAVE TO

120:45

TAKE PLACE ON CAPITOL HILL AS WELL.

120:50

WE ARE STARTING TO HEAR FROM LEADERSHIP, BY THE WAY.

120:54

WE HEARD LAST WEEKEND ON SUNDAY MORNING TELEVISION MEMBERS OF

120:56

THE ADMINISTRATION TALKING ABOUT AN IMMINENT THREAT WITHIN

121:00

DAYS OR WEEK. STEVE WITKOFF SAID THEY COULD

121:03

HAVE A BREAKTHROUGH IN HIGHLY-ENRICHED WEAPONS GRADE

121:05

URANIUM. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY COULD

121:08

PUT IT ON A MISSILE, BUT THAT IS THE FIRST TIME WE HEARD THAT.

121:11

I SUSPECT WE ARE GOING TO HEAR IT AGAIN.

121:14

CHRISTINA: IT ALSO CONTRADICTS THEIR CLAIM

121:17

THAT THEY TOOK OUT IRAN'S NUCLEAR FACILITIES IN THEIR

121:21

LAST STRIKE. JOE: HE'S DOING A LOT OF WORK THERE.

121:26

WE HAVE BEEN HEARING THE PRESIDENT SAY, WE WILL

121:27

OBLITERATED AGAIN. THAT THEY HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO

121:29

REBUILD THE WHOLE THING. THAT BRINGS US TO THE IDEA OF

121:33

THE WAR POWERS RESOLUTION. DID THE PRESIDENT NEED THE

121:38

PERMISSION OF CONGRESS? YOU'VE JUST HEARD FROM LEADERS

121:42

ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE, AND THE CONTRAST COULD NOT BE MORE

121:47

STARK. HAKEEM JEFFRIES IS CALLING FOR

121:50

A VOTE ON THE FLOOR IMMEDIATELY, AS SOON AS

121:52

LAWMAKERS GET BACK TO WASHINGTON.

121:56

WE JUST HEARD AS WELL FROM SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON, WHO SAYS,

122:00

BY THE WAY, THE GANG OF EIGHT WAS BRIEFED AND DETAILED

122:03

EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT MILITARY ACTION MAY BECOME NECESSARY,

122:05

WHICH IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN GETTING A PHONE CALL LAST

122:08

NIGHT THAT WE ARE GOING IN. HE DOESN'T EVEN MENTION

122:11

CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY OVER WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS CALLING A

122:13

WAR. DAVID: GET US UP TO SPEED ON THE STATE

122:17

OF PLAY IN THE REGION AS WE TALK ABOUT THE POLITICAL

122:18

FALLOUT. THERE WAS THE THREAT FROM THE

122:20

SUPREME LEADER THAT THERE WOULD BE A REGIONAL WAR THAT WOULD

122:22

ABRUPT. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT

122:25

WOULD AFFECT MANY COUNTRIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST. FROM YOUR

122:30

VANTAGE IN DUBAI, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING?

122:32

HOW MUCH IS THAT COMING TO PASS? JOUMANNA:

122:36

I WOULD SAY THIS IS BECOMING WHAT IS TURNING OUT TO BE A

122:37

HISTORIC DAY. IT IS A FRAUD TODAY, AND I WILL

122:43

TELL YOU ANECDOTALLY MYSELF, I'M SITTING IN DUBAI AND I HAVE

122:48

HEARD BLASTS, AND THERE ARE STORIES OF PEOPLE RUSHING TO

122:50

THE SUPERMARKET TO STOCK UP ON WHAT LOOKS LIKE IS GOING TO BE

122:54

PROTRACTED COUPLE OF DAYS OF ATTACKS AND COUNTERATTACKS.

122:58

THE FEELING IS ONE OF EXTREME NERVOUSNESS.

123:00

I SHOULD ALSO SAY THAT THE AIRSPACE IS CLOSED AS WELL.

123:05

IN DUBAI, UAE, AND OTHER OAF REGIONS TOO HAVE CLOSED THEIR

123:12

AIRSPACE.

123:13

-- GULF REGIONS TOO HAVE CLOSED THEIR AIRSPACE.

123:17

A LITTLE RELIEVED THAT NOTHING HAPPENED OVERNIGHT, BECAUSE THE

123:19

LAST TIME THE U.S. LAUNCHED AN OPERATION IN THE

123:23

12-DAY WAR IT WAS AN OVERNIGHT MILITARY EXERCISE.

123:25

THIS TIME IT IS HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY.

123:28

YOU HAD THE ISRAELI-U.S. OPERATION IN THE MORNING, AND

123:34

THEN THE VERY SWIFT RETALIATION FROM IRAN, TARGETING MOST OF

123:36

THESE UF -- U.S. BASES.

123:38

IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MINUTES WE HAVE HEARD THAT SAUDI ARABIA

123:44

HAVE INTERCEPTED MISSILES THAT WERE DIRECTED OVER THE EASTERN

123:45

PROVINCE IN RIYADH.

123:51

LET'S PAY CLOSE ATTENTION AT THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE A

123:55

LOT OF THE OIL IS SITUATED AND ARAMCO FACILITIES.

123:57

HE THEY HAVE INTERCEPTED THE MISSILES THAT WERE DIRECTED AT

124:00

THEM. THE REGION IS ON A HIGH STATE

124:03

OF ALERT AND THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO GO ON FOR

124:07

A COUPLE OF DAYS, AND ALSO JUST WAITING TO HEAR EXACTLY WHAT

124:12

AND WHO PRECISELY WAS TARGETED IN THOSE JOINT U.S.-ISRAEL

124:15

OPERATIONS IN THE MORNING. WE ARE STILL WAITING TO GET

124:17

MORE DETAILS ON THAT. CHRISTINA: WE ARE ALSO SEEING A REPORT

124:24

THAT THE SAUDI'S HAVE INTERRUPTED MISSILES IN RIYADH

124:25

AND THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY.

124:27

YOU HAVE LIVED THERE A WHILE. I CANNOT REMEMBER, OTHER THAN

124:33

THAT ISRAELI STRIKE INSIDE THE HALL -- DOHA, I CANNOT REMEMBER

124:37

THIS MANY CITIES RUNNING FOR COVER.

124:42

THIS IS SOMETHING WE SEE IN TEL AVIV AND JERUSALEM, BUT WHEN

124:44

WAS THE LAST TIME PEOPLE IN DUBAI WERE WORRIED ABOUT

124:48

INCOMING FIRE? IS THIS A GAME CHANGE AND DOES

124:52

THIS CHANGE THE WAY THE SENTIMENT, PEOPLE IN THIS

124:53

REGION ARE GOING TO VIEW THE UNITED STATES? JOUMANNA:

124:59

LOOK, I THINK THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED TIMES, ESPECIALLY

125:00

FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE UAE, WHO ARE USED TO ALL

125:05

GEOPOLITICAL STABILITY, ECONOMIC STABILITY.

125:06

THIS DIDN'T SEEM LIKE SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN ON YOUR OWN

125:12

HOME TURF. IT IS DIFFICULT TO ORDER FOOD

125:16

NO ON SOME OF THE FOOD APPS, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED

125:17

ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

125:21

IT IS MOST CERTAINLY A GAME CHANGING EVENT.

125:24

I WILL TELL YOU ONE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS INTERESTING

125:27

TO KNOW. FOR ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN FOLLOWING CLOSELY, A PHONE CALL

125:32

WAS JUST HELD BETWEEN THE SAUDI CROWN PRINCE AND THE UAE

125:34

PRESIDENT. THOSE TWO HAVE HAD A FRAUGHT

125:36

RELATIONSHIP OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS OVER TENSIONS

125:44

REGARDING THE FUTURE OF YEMEN. IT HAS BEEN RUMBLING IN THE

125:45

BACKGROUND. A LOT OF DOMESTIC COVERAGE

125:49

ABOUT HOW THIS RIVALRY BETWEEN THE TWO SIDES IS GOING TO PLAY

125:57

OUT.

125:58

THIS HAS SERVED TO UNITE THESE GULF STATES TOGETHER IN THEIR

126:00

MISSION TO HELP FIND AN OFFRAMP AND DIPLOMATIC SOLUTION TO WHAT

126:04

COULD EASILY ESCALATE INTO A VERY DESTRUCTIVE REGIONAL

126:07

CRISIS. I THINK MANY OF THE LEADERS

126:10

AROUND THE GULF STATES ARE GOING TO TRY THEIR HARDEST NOW

126:15

TO SEE HOW AN OFFRAMP CAN BE OFFERED SO THAT DE-ESCALATION

126:21

CAN BE TONED DOWN. IT IS CRUCIAL TO THEIR ECONOMIC

126:24

PLANS AS WELL THAT THIS DOES NOT GET OUT OF CONTROL.

126:26

HAVE NOT EVEN SPOKEN ABOUT THE OIL IMPACT.

126:29

ALL OF THAT, ON THE TABLE. DAVID:

126:33

I BELIEVE WE HAVE DAN WILLIAMS WITH US.

126:38

I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO YOU AND ASK YOU, WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO

126:43

BE WATCHING AS THE SABBATH ENDS IN ISRAEL, AS WE EXPECT TO HEAR

126:48

MORE FROM THE PRIME MINISTER.

126:50

WE TALKED ABOUT THE LEVEL OF ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT

126:51

OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL.

126:54

BUT MORE HAVE WE LEARNED ABOUT ISRAEL'S PARTICIPATION IN THESE

126:57

STRIKES? DAN: IT IS FUNNY YOU USE THAT

127:00

METAPHOR, LISTENING FOR, BECAUSE AS WE ARE SPEAKING A

127:03

BRACE OF JETS IS OVERHEAD. THAT GENERALLY SIGNALS A NEW

127:07

WAVE OF ACTION. THIS MORNING THERE WAS A SURGE

127:10

OF JET ACTIVITY OVERHEAD. IN RETROSPECT WE UNDERSTAND

127:16

THAT TO HAVE BEEN THE SETTING OUT OF THOSE JETS WHICH CARRIED

127:21

OUT AN ATTACK, THE OPENING ATTACK ON TEHRAN, THAT WAS THEN

127:22

CONFIRMED THREE HOURS LATER. I THINK WHAT WE EXPECT IS, AND

127:29

THE MOST PRESSING CONCERN RIGHT NOW TO JUDGE BY ISRAELI MEDIA

127:32

-- AND I SAY THIS WITH EXTREME CAUTION, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT

127:38

CONFIRMED THIS YET -- ISRAELI MEDIA SEEM TO BELIEVE, ISRAEL

127:40

SEEMS TO BELIEVE THAT THE SUPREME LEADER OF IRAN HAS BEEN

127:41

KILLED. IN THIS ATTACK, IN TODAY'S

127:45

ATTACKS. THAT WOULD BE A REVOLUTIONARY

127:52

DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CONFLICT, OR COUNTERREVOLUTIONARY, GIVEN

127:57

THIS MEMBER PRESENTED -- WAS PRESENT AT THE REVOLUTION OF

128:02

1979, WHICH HAD A RIPPLE EFFECT ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST. WE WILL

128:10

BE LOOKING FOR CONFIRMATION. ISRAEL, DESPITE THE POWER OF

128:15

ITS INTELLIGENCE SOURCES AND REMOTE FORENSICS, CAN CONFIRM

128:19

SUCH A THING, OR IF IRAN WOULD CONFIRM THAT THIS HAS BEEN THE

128:20

CASE AND WHERE THINGS STAND. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN IT

128:26

COMES TO HAS A LOT IN LEBANON, WHICH FOR A LONG TIME WAS THE

128:30

CATSPAW OF IRAN WHEN IT CAME TO ISRAEL, A VERY POWERFUL GROUP,

128:37

A GROUP THAT HAD A MISSILE, REGULAR ARMIES IN THE WEST,

128:41

ALTHOUGH MUCH DOWNGRADED BY THE WAR FOUGHT WITH ISRAEL AGAINST

128:47

IT IN THE LAST 2.5 YEARS, NONETHELESS RETAINS SOME

128:53

STRENGTH. HEZBOLLAH WOULD STAY OUT UNLESS

128:57

KHOMEINI WOULD FALL VICTIM TO A U.S.-ISRAELI ATTACK.

128:58

IF THAT IS THE CASE I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE THE MAJOR

129:01

NEW BEAT, THE MAJOR NEW PHASE OF THIS ROUND OF FIGHTING.

129:05

IT IS GOING TO HAVE A MAJOR LONG-TERM EFFECT.

129:09

CERTAINLY A SHORT-TERM EFFECT INTO HOW PROTRACTED THE

129:13

BACK-AND-FORTH OF MISSILE FIRE, AIRSTRIKES, COUNTER MISSILE

129:18

FIRE, WILL LAST. MUCH WILL DEPEND ON THE DURATION TO WHICH

129:22

THE IRANIANS CAN KEEP MUSTERING THAT CYCLE OF FIRE, GIVEN HOW

129:24

HEAVILY ATTACKED THEY ARE NOW. DAVID:

129:26

DAN WILLIAMS REPORTING THAT THE ISRAELI MEDIA IS REPORTING THAT

129:30

THE SUPREME LEADER HAS BEEN KILLED.

129:33

BLOOMBERG HAS NOT CONFIRMED THAT NEWS.

129:35

THERE WERE STRIKES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF WHERE THE

129:37

SUPREME LEADER WAS. CHRISTINA: IN REPORTS OF OTHER

129:40

HIGH-RANKING OFFICIALS POSSIBLY BEING KILLED. DAVID:

129:44

THE FOREIGN MINISTER. WE HAVE SEEN NEWS OF THAT THIS

129:45

MORNING. WERE THERE TO BE TRUE IT WOULD

129:49

BE SEISMIC NEWS. I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO RESPOND

129:53

TO THAT. THIS IS THE OPEN QUESTION HERE.

129:56

THERE WAS TALK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF ATTACK U.S. MIGHT WAGE.

130:00

THERE IT MIGHT BE ONE THAT WE TRY TO BEHEAD THE REGIME, WAS

130:02

THE TERM OF ART USED THERE. YOUR SENSE OF WHAT THE

130:07

SIGNIFICANCE WOULD BE, WITH THE CAVEAT WE ARE SEEING REPORTS OF

130:11

THIS IN ISRAELI MEDIA, BUT BLOOMBERG HAS NOT CONFIRMED

130:14

THOSE REPORTS? JOUMANNA: BUT WE CAN TAKE AWAY FROM THE

130:18

EARLY HOURS OF THIS IS THIS TIME THE OPERATIONS HAVE BEEN

130:20

TARGETING THE SENIOR ASH LAWN OF LEADERSHIP.

130:24

WHETHER IT IS KHOMEINI HIMSELF -- AND NO CONFIRMATION OVER

130:26

WHETHER HE HAS BEEN HIT -- BUT OTHER MEMBERS OF IRGC TOO.

130:33

THIS MARKS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE U.S.'S INVOLVEMENT

130:35

IN THAT 12 DAY WAR, WHEN THEY WENT AFTER SPECIFIC MILITARY

130:38

INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS TIME THE FACT THAT THEY

130:42

ARE TARGETING SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS, SENIOR

130:46

COMMANDERS WITHIN THE IRGC AND PERHAPS EVEN THE SUPREME LEADER

130:50

HIMSELF, SUGGESTS THAT THE OBJECTIVE IS NOT JUST

130:53

OBLITERATING OR NEUTRALIZING IRAN'S ABILITY TO "DEFEND

130:56

ITSELF WAS QUOTE OR LAUNCH ATTACKS, BUT POTENTIALLY TO

131:00

CHANGE LEADERSHIP AT THE TOP. CHRISTINA:

131:03

WE WANT TO BRING IN BRIGADIER GENERAL MARK KIMMITT.

131:10

I WANT TO ASK YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, WHEN WE ARE

131:14

TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY TARGETED STRIKES TAKING OUT INDIVIDUAL

131:17

LEADERS FROM THIS REGIME, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INTELLIGENCE

131:21

AND PLANNING THAT WE NEED TO GO INTO THOSE KINDS OF STRIKES AND

131:24

IF THAT IS LOGISTICALLY POSSIBLE, WHY THAT HASN'T BEEN

131:25

DONE BEFORE NOW? MARK: I WOULD SAY TWO THINGS.

131:32

THE AMOUNT OF INTELLIGENCE IT TAKES NOT ONLY IN QUANTITY, BUT

131:37

OVER TIME TO BE ABLE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE A SPECIFIC PERSON

131:43

IS AT A SPECIFIC TIME IS ENORMOUS.

131:50

IT WOULD TAKE NUMEROUS DIFFERENT ASSETS AND

131:53

CAPABILITIES, BOTH VOICE INTERCEPT, PHOTOGRAPHIC

131:56

EVIDENCE, PEOPLE TRAILING THEM. IT IS A HUGE EFFORT.

132:01

I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS

132:04

JUST THE AMOUNT OF ASSETS IT REQUIRES.

132:07

BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT IS WHETHER GOING AGAINST POLITICAL

132:14

LEADERSHIP AND MILITARY LEADERSHIP IS THE RIGHT THING

132:15

TO BE DOING. IN THIS CASE GOING AGAINST

132:19

MILITARY LEADERSHIP IS EXACTLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

132:22

BUT POLITICAL LEADERSHIP GETS YOU INTO THE TERRITORY OF

132:23

REGIME CHANGE AND THE DEBATE THAT SURROUNDS TOPPLING A

132:26

LEADER OF A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY. CHRISTINA: IS THAT THE KIND OF

132:31

INTELLIGENCE THAT LIKELY COMES FROM COLLABORATION WITH THE

132:34

ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE AGENCY? THE U.S.

132:38

DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF PHYSICAL ASSETS ON THE GROUND IN TEHRAN,

132:43

BUT MOSSAD HAS BEEN ABLE TO PENETRATE

132:45

THOSE INSTALLATIONS BETTER THAN THE U.S.

132:48

WE SAW THAT WITH THE NUCLEAR FACILITIES.

132:51

I'M WONDERING IF YOU THINK THAT IS LIKELY IF THIS WAS THE CASE

132:54

AND THEY WERE ABLE TO TARGET INDIVIDUAL LEADERS OF THAT

132:58

REGIME, THAT THERE HAD TO BE SOME INTELLIGENCE SHARING

132:59

BETWEEN THOSE COUNTRIES? MARK: I THINK THERE IS INTELLIGENCE

133:03

SHARING WITH A NUMBER OF COUNTRIES.

133:07

ONE WOULD CONSIDER THAT ISRAEL PROBABLY IS THE PRIMARY

133:08

INTELLIGENCE COLLEAGUE WE HAVE IN THIS.

133:10

BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS MORE THAN

133:15

JUST PEOPLE ON THE GROUND.

133:18

GOT TO HAVE ALL SORTS OF INTELLIGENCE.

133:22

NOT ONLY PEOPLE WALKING AROUND, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE IMAGERY.

133:28

YOU GOT TO HAVE ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM INTELLIGENCE.

133:34

IT IS A MOSAIC OF INTELLIGENCE THAT COMES TOGETHER.

133:37

THE UNITED STATES HAS THE BEST OVERHEAD INTELLIGENCE, OF

133:41

COURSE. IT IS COMMONLY BELIEVED THE

133:44

ISRAELIS HAVE THE BEST HUMAN INTELLIGENCE TO PROSECUTE THESE

133:47

TARGETS. DAVID: WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE

133:49

GROUNDWORK LAID FOR THESE STRIKES, WHERE THE U.S.

133:51

HAS TALKED ABOUT THEM. I WONDER IF YOU WANT TO PICK UP

133:55

ON WHAT THE GENERAL WAS SAYING. THAT THE LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCE

134:01

COOPERATION, THE WAY THE U.S. IS PREPARING FOR THIS, WHAT DO

134:02

WE KNOW OF THAT? WHAT DO WE KNOW OF HOW THESE

134:07

PLANS WERE VETTED AND PUT TOGETHER IN THE RUN-UP TO THIS?

134:13

JEFF: I DO THINK BROADLY IT IS NOT

134:15

WRONG TO CONCLUDE, OR IT WOULD BE EASY TO CONCLUDE THIS IS

134:19

WHAT THEY WERE AFTER. IF YOU HAVE PRESIDENT TRUMP

134:22

URGING THE IRANIAN PEOPLE TO STEP IN AND TAKE OVER THE

134:26

GOVERNMENT, HE IS CLEARLY THINKING THERE IS GOING TO BE

134:27

AN OPENING, RIGHT? AND THE OPENING WOULD BE

134:30

CREATED BY TAKING OUT THE LEADERSHIP.

134:34

YOU ARE RIGHT TO SAY BLOOMBERG NEWS HAS NOT CONFIRMED THAT

134:39

YET, BUT THE IDEA THAT HE AND THE U.S.

134:41

MILITARY IN COLLABORATION WITH THE ISRAELI MILITARY WAS GOING

134:44

AFTER THESE TARGETS CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE BASED ON WHAT HE

134:47

HAS SAID. I THINK IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO

134:51

SAY THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR ANY COUNTRY.

134:55

THE UNITED STATES SPECIFICALLY, TO BE NOT ONLY LAUNCHING

134:59

STRIKES, BUT TRYING TO TAKE OUT THE LEADERSHIP OF ANOTHER

135:02

COUNTRY IS -- THAT IS A BIG SHIFT FOR U.S.

135:06

FOREIGN POLICY, AND IT IS PROBABLY A DEFINING MOMENT IN

135:07

PRESIDENT TRUMP'S TERM. CHRISTINA:

135:12

THAT IS BECAUSE THIS IS A LESSON SUCCESSIVE PRESIDENTS

135:13

HAVE LEARNED, AND IT IS WHAT WE CALL THE POTTERY BARN RULE.

135:16

YOU BREAK IT, YOU BOUGHT IT. DOES THE U.S.

135:23

HAVE TO COMMIT TO SOME SORT OF PEACEKEEPING FORCE?

135:24

HOW DOES THE U.S. WIN THE PEACE, WHICH HAS

135:27

HISTORICALLY BEEN THE MUCH HARDER PART OF MILITARY

135:30

CONFLICT? JOE: THESE ARE THE HARDER QUESTIONS

135:33

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKED, MAY BE, BEFORE WE STARTED THIS.

135:35

BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT MAY NOT HAVE A CHOICE AT THIS POINT.

135:40

CONSIDER CUTTING OFF THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE IN THIS CASE.

135:43

THIS IS SOMETHING -- REMEMBERING THE PRESIDENT TOOK

135:47

OUT QASEM SOLEIMANI IN THE FIRST TERM.

135:50

WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE WAY ISRAEL PROSECUTES ITSELF

135:52

MILITARILY, IT IS FREQUENTLY GOING AFTER PEOPLE, NOT THINGS

135:54

OR PLACES. IN THIS CASE THIS MAY HAVE BEEN

135:56

THE SAME. WE HAVE DONE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT

136:01

OF DAMAGE TO THE AIR DEFENSES IN THE STRIKES LAST YEAR IN

136:03

ADVANCE OF THE STRIKES. THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT ARE WE

136:07

GOING TO TARGET? OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE GOING TO BE

136:12

MILITARY TARGETS, BUT INDIVIDUALS MAY BE AND UP --

136:16

MAY END UP BEING THE STORY HERE. DAVID: WE KNOW OF THE CLOSENESS

136:22

BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS TRUSTED ADVISOR STEVE WITKOFF,

136:25

JARED KUSHNER, HIS SON-IN-LAW. IT WASN'T SOME HAPPY TALK AFTER

136:29

THE NEGOTIATIONS HAD TAKEN PLACE.

136:32

IT SEEMS LIKE THOSE TALKS WERE GOING TO CONTINUE.

136:35

WE HEARD FROM THE FOREIGN MINISTER YESTERDAY INDICATING

136:38

THEY WERE CLOSE TO A DIPLOMATIC DEAL.

136:41

YOUR REACTION TO THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED HERE?

136:46

HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE FORTHRIGHTNESS OR ENGAGEMENT

136:48

THEY WERE HAVING DIPLOMATICALLY AS THEY WERE PLANNING FOR THESE

136:53

STRIKES? MARK:

136:54

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE HAPPY

136:58

TALK SEEMED TO BE COMING ON THE IRAN SIDE, FROM THE MEDIATORS

137:00

WHO WERE SAYING EVERYTHING WAS GOING WELL.

137:04

ONE GROUP WE DID NOT HEAR CONFIRMING THAT WERE THE

137:09

AMERICANS.

137:10

IT IS VERY TYPICAL IN NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE IRANIANS

137:13

TO COME OUT AFTER EVERY ROUND OF NEGOTIATIONS AND SAY

137:16

EVERYTHING IS GOING WELL, WE ARE GETTING WHAT WE WANT, WE

137:18

ARE HAVING A WONDERFUL TIME. I THINK THE AMERICANS WERE VERY

137:23

INTELLIGENT ABOUT THE CLOSE-LIPPED.

137:25

WE DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THINGS WERE COMING ALONG.

137:29

ALL REPORTS ARE, LOOK, THE AMERICANS WERE FORTHRIGHT, THEY

137:35

GAVE UP THE CONCESSION ON THE PROXIES, ON THE BALLISTIC

137:38

MISSILES, AND FOCUSED, AS DEMANDED BY THE IRANIANS, ONLY

137:40

ON THE NUCLEAR. IT WAS CLEAR FROM WHEN

137:46

EVERYBODY WAS SAYING IS THE IRANIANS WERE DOING THEIR

137:50

STANDARD DELAY, DENY, DECEIVE, AND THAT IS GOING NOWHERE.

137:51

AND EVERYBODY KNEW THERE WAS GOING TO COME A TIME THAT

137:56

PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD RUN OUT OF PATIENCE IF NO PROGRESS --

137:59

[NO AUDIO] CHRISTINA: GENERAL, I THINK WE LOST YOU

138:02

THERE. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOMETHING THE GENERAL WAS

138:09

TALKING ABOUT, AND THAT IS THAT THIS WAS PART OF AN IRANIAN

138:13

STRATEGY TO SAY EVERYTHING WAS GOING WELL, TO OUTRUN THE

138:15

REALITY OF HOW NEGOTIATIONS WERE GOING.

138:18

WE HEARD FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP THIS MORNING AND HE SAID IT HAS

138:23

ALWAYS BEEN THE POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES THAT THIS

138:25

TERRORIST REGIME CAN NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

138:31

WE HAVE LOST JOUMANNA AS WELL. I WILL TURN TO OUR PANEL.

138:36

IT MAY JUST BE ALL PR SPIN. YOU HAVE THE U.S., THE

138:41

PRESIDENT SAYING THIS REGIME CANNOT HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

138:46

ONE OF THE BIG TOP LINES FROM THEM COMING OUT OF THAT WAS

138:50

THEM SAYING IRAN HAD AGREED THAT THEY DID NOT NEED A

138:52

NUCLEAR WEAPON. HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE U.S.

138:55

AND WHETHER THE U.S. WAS NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH.

138:57

DID IRAN REALLY MEAN THAT? COULD IRAN BE TRUSTED TO HAVE A

139:02

NUCLEAR WEAPON -- TO NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON?

139:07

OR IS THAT WHY THE PRESIDENT IS MAKING THIS ATTACK? JEFF:

139:13

THERE HAS BEEN SKEPTICISM IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY FOR

139:15

YEARS OVER WHETHER OR NOT IRAN WAS PURSUING A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

139:18

IT HAS SAID FOREVER THAT THAT IS NOT WHAT IT WAS PURSUING,

139:21

THAT IT WANTED TO HAVE NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES FOR PEACEFUL

139:23

PURPOSES, FOR ENERGY. HAS JUST BEEN DOUBT ABOUT THAT

139:26

ACROSS THE BOARD. CERTAINLY PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS

139:29

DOUBTED THAT. AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT

139:33

EARLIER, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE STRIKES LAST

139:39

SUMMER.

139:40

WHETHER OR NOT THE SERIOUSNESS OF THAT STATEMENT OR THE

139:42

NEGOTIATIONS CHANGED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS IS

139:45

DEBATABLE, BUT CLEARLY THE PRESIDENT CONCLUDED IT DID NOT

139:48

RAISE TO THE LEVEL HE WAS WANTING BEFORE MAKING A

139:51

DECISION TO GO TO WAR. DAVID: THERE WAS THE THOUGHT THAT THIS

139:56

COULD BE AN OFFER IN JUST DAYS AGO.

139:59

THAT THERE MIGHT BE AN OFFRAMP FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP TO AGREE TO

140:02

A NEW LIMIT. CHRISTINA: PEOPLE WERE SAYING THEY WERE

140:05

GOING TO PROVIDE THE PRESIDENT WITH A FUDGE. JOE:

140:07

OR MAYBE A TACO. BUT IT SEEMS WE ARE GOING TO

140:12

GET NEITHER, BECAUSE WHETHER IT WAS FOR MEDICAL RESEARCH OR

140:16

ENERGY, THAT OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT SOMETHING PALATABLE TO THIS

140:19

ADMINISTRATION, BUT SOMETHING TEHRAN WAS HOPING TO CODIFY IN

140:20

AN AGREEMENT. CHRISTINA: PALATABLE.

140:23

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE. [LAUGHTER]

140:27

I WANT TO POSE THAT QUESTION TO YOU.

140:32

I AM CURIOUS WHAT LEADERSHIP THINKS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT

140:36

IRAN WOULD EVER REALLY HAVE GIVEN UP A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

140:40

THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT IN THE REGION THAT AIR FORCES HAD BEEN

140:44

SO DEGRADED BY THOSE ISRAELI AND U.S. ATTACKS, COMBINED WITH

140:47

SANCTIONS, HAD PUT THEM ON THE BACK FOOT TO THE POINT WHERE

140:50

THEY WOULD NEVER GIVE UP THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM, BUT THEY WOULD

140:52

BE WILLING TO GIVE UP THE NUCLEAR WEAPON.

140:55

DID WE BELIEVE THAT WAS REALLY ON THE TABLE? JOUMANNA:

140:58

I THINK WHAT IRAN WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE IS ONE

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PRESENTATION OF THEIR REGIME AND THE STRUCTURE THAT HAS

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EXISTED SINCE 1979, WHICH IS VERY PERVASIVE AMONGST ALL

141:11

ELEMENTS OF NOT JUST POLITICALLY, BUT ECONOMICALLY.

141:14

THE SECOND THING IS, THEY ABSOLUTELY WANTED TO ACHIEVE

141:15

SANCTIONS RELIEF. FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE THEY

141:20

WERE WILLING TO GO TO THESE NEGOTIATIONS SO LONG AS THEY

141:24

WOULD AGREE TO TERMS THAT WOULD STILL ALSO NOT COMPLETELY

141:32

JEOPARDIZE THEIR WAS ON DETRA -- THEIR REASON, WHICH IS ONE

141:35

OF RESISTANCE AND STANDING UP TO THE THREAT OF ISRAEL, TO THE

141:38

U.S. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN

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CHANTING DEATH TO AMERICA FOR DECADES NOW.

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SO, INTRINSIC TO THEIR EXISTENCE IS THE NUCLEAR

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PROGRAM.

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AND THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL ARSENAL OF BALLISTIC MISSILES

141:55

THEY ARE SITTING ON. IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE

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PROXIES THEY HAVE BEEN FUNDING OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST

142:02

DECADE AS WELL. WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE LAST

142:05

COUPLE OF YEARS IS ON ALL OF THOSE FRONTS THEY HAVE SEEN

142:07

MAJOR SETBACKS. YOU'VE SEEN IT WITH MANY OTHER

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PROXIES IN THE REGION, HAS BELOW OR HAMAS, OR EVEN THE

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ASSAD REGIME. YOU'VE SEEN IT WITH THE HUGE

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SETBACK THAT THE U.S. AND ISRAEL SUSTAINED TO THEIR

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NUCLEAR PROGRAM A YEAR AGO. AND ALSO THE SUBSTANTIAL HIT

142:28

THAT THEIR AIR DEFENSE SYSTEM AND MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM TOOK

142:31

IN THE JUNE WAR. SINCE THEN, THEY'VE BEEN TRYING

142:34

TO RECONSTITUTE. WE HAD A STORY ON BLOOMBERG A

142:38

FEW DAYS AGO LOOKING AT SATELLITE IMAGERY SUGGESTING

142:42

THAT THERE HAD BEEN RECONSTITUTION EFFORTS AT SOME

142:45

OF THOSE KEY NUCLEAR SITES. THEY HAVE BEEN REBUILDING UP

142:50

THEIR BALLISTIC MISSILE CAPABILITIES IN ANTICIPATION

142:54

OF, PERHAPS, WHAT COULD BE MILITARY ATTACK FROM THE U.S.

142:55

AND IRAN. AND HERE WE ARE TODAY. HAVING THE ABILITY TO ENRICH A

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LITTLE BIT OF URANIUM IS ALSO VERY CORE TO THEIR IDEOLOGY.

143:09

THEY NEVER SUGGESTED THEY WERE GOING TO ACTUALLY CONCEDE TO

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THE U.S.'S DEMAND OF MAXIMUM PRESSURE, WHICH IS A ZERO

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ENRICHMENT POLICY. DAVID: WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT POPULAR

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SUPPORT FOR AN INITIATIVE LIKE THIS IN ISRAEL?

143:24

WE HEARD A LITTLE ABOUT THIS FROM YOUR COLLEAGUE ETHAN

143:26

BRONNER WHEN WE SPOKE TO HIM EARLIER THIS MORNING.

143:29

YOUR SENSE OF THE POPULAR REACTION TO WHAT HAS TAKEN

143:32

PLACE IN THE LAST FEW HOURS IS LIKELY TO BE IN ISRAEL?

143:38

DAN: BUMPER STICKERS, GRAFFITI IN

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ENGLISH, CONVENIENTLY AIMED AT TRUMP, AMERICAN VISITORS, THE

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MESSAGE WAS "TRUMP FINISHED THE JOB."

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THAT APPLIES TO THE MAJORITY OF ISRAELIS GIVEN THAT THEY ARE

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STILL ON A WAR FOOTING 2.5 YEARS AFTER OCTOBER 7.

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A HAMAS ATTACK THAT WAS ASTONISHINGLY SUCCESSFUL.

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ASTONISHINGLY BRUTAL FROM AN ISRAELI PERSPECTIVE, THE

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BLOODIEST DAY IN ISRAEL'S HISTORY OF THE WORST DAY FOR

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JEWS SINCE THE HOLOCAUST IN TERMS OF THE DEATH TOLL.

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AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT AND ISRAELI

144:17

PEOPLE MOBILIZED NOT JUST TO DEFEAT HAMAS AND DESTROY IT,

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AND THAT IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT TO CHANGE

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ISRAEL'S POSITION IN THE REGION SUCH THAT THE THREAT STRUCTURE

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AGAINST IT IS PROFOUNDLY DIMINISHED.

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MANY ISRAELIS WILL SEE THIS AS, IF YOU LIKE, THE CROWNING

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OPERATION OF THAT 2.5 YEAR MULTI-FRONT CAMPAIGN.

144:39

I AM HEARING THE WARPLANES BEHIND ME AS I SPEAK AND YOU

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MAY KNOW THAT I MAY HAVE TO CUT OUT ANY TIME.

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WE ARE EXPECTING MORE SIRENS EMINENTLY.

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THERE ARE MORE MISSILES ON THE WAY. GIVEN THE SAMPLING OF MY

144:53

NEIGHBORS IN THE BOMB SHELTER, A SENSE OF HIGH SPIRITS.

144:58

IF WE CAN JUST OPEN UP, RELIGIOUSLY, ON A RELIGIOUS

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NOTE, AND THIS IS A REGION NOT SHORT ON RELIGION, FOR MANY

145:05

MUSLIMS THIS ATTACK WILL BE SEEN AS A HUGE AFFRONT, NOT

145:09

JUST BECAUSE OF THE TARGETS AND POTENTIAL KILLING OF THE VERY

145:13

TOP OF THE TOP OF THE IRANIAN ECHELON, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT

145:15

TOOK PLACE DURING THE HOLY MONTH OF RAMADAN WHICH IS BEING

145:18

MARKED WITH FASTING AND PRAYER BY MUSLIMS ACROSS THE REGION.

145:23

TODAY IS THE JEWISH SABBATH AND AWAY FROM A FESTIVAL WHICH IS

145:28

HISTORICALLY MARKING TURNAROUNDS FOR THE JEWISH

145:29

PEOPLE. THAT IS WHAT MANY ISRAELIS WILL

145:32

BE THINKING ABOUT WHEN THEY HOPE FOR SUCCESS AGAINST IRAN

145:36

IN THIS CAMPAIGN. DAVID: STAY SAFE, BOTH OF THEM JOINING

145:42

US FROM THE REGION THIS MORNING. CHRISTINA:

145:45

WE WANT TO BRING IN JOHN BOLTON. AMBASSADOR, YOU ARE A LONGTIME

145:50

CRITIC OF IRAN. I WONDER WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT

145:54

THE STRIKES AND HOW THEY WERE CARRIED OUT AND IF THEY WERE

145:56

LEGAL UNDER PRESIDENTIAL AUTHORITY? JOHN:

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THE OBJECTIVES OF THE STRIKES ARE CORRECT AND PROPER.

146:04

ELIMINATING THE THREAT OF

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IRAN'S NUCLEAR THREAT PROGRAM, IT'S A LONG HISTORY DATING BACK

146:16

TO WHEN IT CAME TO POWER IN 1979 OF INTERNATIONAL

146:18

TERRORISM, PARTICULARLY AGAINST AMERICANS, AND ITS REPRESSION

146:21

OF ITS OWN PEOPLE WHICH DONALD TRUMP TO A REDLINE AGAINST IN

146:27

JANUARY AND SAID THE HELP IS ON ITS WAY.

146:31

I THINK THAT THE OBJECTIVES ARE CLEAR THAT THIS IS MANIFESTLY

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WITHIN THE PRESIDENT'S COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF AUTHORITY.

146:36

THE GANG OF EIGHT WERE BRIEFED ON THIS ON TUESDAY.

146:42

IF CONGRESS DOESN'T LIKE IT, CONGRESS CAN CUT OFF

146:43

APPROPRIATIONS. THAT'S WHERE CONGRESSIONAL

146:44

POWER COMES IN. DAVID: IF YOU WERE TO TAKE JOHN

146:51

BOLTON'S PLAN FOR REGIME CHANGE IN IRAN BOOK OFF THE SHELF, I'M

146:55

CURIOUS WHAT YOU MAKE OF THE MEANS BY WHICH THE PRESIDENT

146:57

DECIDED TO DO THIS. THE ELEMENT OF SURPRISE IF

146:59

THERE WAS ONE HERE. AND THE COOPERATION WITH ISRAEL

147:01

ON THESE ATTACKS. JOHN: A COUPLE OF THINGS WORRY ME.

147:08

IN HIS STATEMENT IN THE VERY EARLY MORNING HOURS TODAY WHEN

147:12

HE TOLD THE PEOPLE OF IRAN THAT HE WAS FINALLY DELIVERING, HE

147:16

SAID, NOW YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS GIVING YOU WHAT YOU

147:18

WANT, SO LET'S SEE HOW YOU RESPOND.

147:24

THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE COOPERATION WITH THE

147:25

OPPOSITION, IT SOUNDS LIKE A CHALLENGE.

147:31

I'M WORRIED THAT THIS CAMPAIGN IN THE AIR, HOWEVER IMPORTANT

147:35

IT MAY BE FOR OTHER REASONS, HAS NOT BEEN MADE CLEAR TO THE

147:37

PEOPLE OF IRAN, HOW THEY CAN USE THE TIME FOR DEFECTIONS

147:43

WITHIN THE REGIME TO TRY TO PULL IT APART AT THE TOP.

147:47

WHEN AUTOCRATIC REGIMES BEGIN TO FOR ALL PEOPLE SAY I WANT

147:51

TO BE ON THE WINNING SIDE. IF THEY THINK THAT THE REGIME

147:54

IS IN DANGER THEY COULD WEALTH EFFECT TO THE OPPOSITION.

147:58

I THINK IT'S THAT COORDINATION

148:05

WITH THE OPPOSITION LEADERS, A DISORGANIZED OPPOSITION TO BE

148:06

SURE, BUT I WOULD FEEL BETTER IF I KNEW THERE WAS MORE TO

148:07

THAT. SECOND, I WORRY ABOUT THE

148:14

POTENTIAL THAT AFTER A COUPLE, THREE DAYS, TRUMP DECLARES, OK,

148:18

THAT'S A VICTORY AND NOW IT'S UP TO THE PEOPLE OF IRAN.

148:20

THAT WON'T BE ENOUGH.

148:26

ITS NOT A ONE AND DONE OPERATION.

148:27

THESE ATTACKS AS THEY DESTROY THE INSTRUMENTS OF IRANIAN

148:30

STATE POWER CAN BE VERY EFFECTIVE, BUT IT REMAINS TO BE

148:33

SEEN IF TRUMP WILL CARRY THROUGH. CHRISTINA:

148:35

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

148:37

YOU BREAK IT, YOU BOUGHT IT. IF THE U.S.

148:42

DESTROYS THIS REGIME, WHAT SHOULD THE U.S.

148:45

SET UP IN ORDER TO FACILITATE SOME SORT OF DEMOCRATIC

148:47

TRANSITION IN THE COUNTRY? IS THAT POSSIBLE GIVEN THE

148:51

DECADES LONG OPPRESSION OF CIVIL SOCIETY?

148:54

WHO LEADS IRAN IF THE AYATOLLAH DOES NOT? JOHN:

148:59

THAT WILL BE UP TO THE IRANIANS. I DON'T BUY THE POTTERY BARN

149:03

RULE. I BUY AMERICAN NATIONAL PROGRAMS WHICH WERE THREATENED

149:08

BY THE NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND BALLISTIC MISSILE PROGRAM AND

149:10

DECADES OF TERRORISM. I THINK WE COULD HELP THE

149:13

IRANIANS IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S UP TO

149:15

THEM. I THINK THE MOST LIKELY NEAR

149:22

TERM OUTCOME OF THE FALL OF THE AYATOLLAH AND REVOLUTIONARY

149:26

GUARD WILL BE A MILITARY GOVERNMENT, SECULAR MILITARY

149:29

GOVERNMENT. NOT THE REVOLUTIONARY GUARD,

149:31

BUT CONVENTIONAL MILITARY THAT WILL HOPEFULLY ALLOW THE

149:35

IRANIAN PEOPLE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS

149:38

TO DECIDE ON WHAT THEY WANT THEIR NEW GOVERNMENT TO LOOK

149:41

LIKE. DAVID: YOU HAVE A SOMEWHAT UNIQUE

149:43

VANTAGE ON THE WAY THE PRESIDENT THINKS ABOUT THESE

149:47

MATTERS, AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT THAT.

149:51

THERE WAS THE STATEMENT HE PUBLISHED LAST NIGHT THAT HE

149:54

TOOK PAST PRESIDENTS TO TASK FOR NOT DOING WHAT HE DID,

150:02

SAYING THAT HE HAD THE GALL, THE MIGHT, AND THE WILLINGNESS

150:04

TO DO WHAT THEY HAD UNWILLINGNESS TO DO IN THE

150:07

PAST. I DON'T NEED YOU TO BE AN ARMCHAIR PSYCHOLOGIST, BUT WHAT

150:10

CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE WAY THE PRESIDENT HAS VIEWED THIS

150:13

ISSUE IN HIS EVOLUTION ON THEIR BEING STRIKES LIKE THESE

150:14

AGAINST IRAN? JOHN: HE DIDN'T DO IT IN HIS FIRST

150:17

TERM EITHER. THAT WAS DESPITE MY BEST

150:21

EFFORTS TO CONVINCE HIM TO. I THINK IF WE HAD DONE THIS 25

150:25

YEARS AGO THE WORLD WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE.

150:28

IT ALWAYS GETS HARDER AS TIME GOES BY.

150:31

IF WE HAD DONE IT BEFORE IRAN'S SUPPORT TO HAMAS, THE HOUTHIS,

150:37

MAYBE THERE WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN A HAMAS ATTACK ON ISRAEL

150:42

OCTOBER 7, 2020 THREE. MAYBE THE TERRORIST GROUPS

150:44

WOULD HAVE NEVER HAD THAT CAPACITY THAT IRAN HAS GIVEN

150:45

THEM OVER DECADES.

150:51

WHY HAS TRUMP COME TO THIS POINT?

150:54

I'M NOT A PSYCHIATRIST. I'M NOT EVEN SURE A PSYCHIATRIST COULD

150:56

TELL YOU IT'S BROUGHT INTO THIS POINT.

150:59

EVERY ARGUMENT THAT HE MADE IN HIS SPEECH IN THE EARLY HOURS

151:01

OF THIS MORNING WERE POINTS THAT WERE MADE TO HIM DURING

151:05

HIS FIRST TERM. I CAN ASSURE YOU OF THAT,

151:09

BECAUSE I WAS AMONG THOSE WHO ARE MAKING THEM. CHRISTINA:

151:12

DO YOU THINK THIS IS NETANYAHU'S INFLUENCE? JOHN:

151:15

NETANYAHU HAD THIS VIEW FOR A LONG TIME, TOO BUT HE MADE

151:18

THOSE POINTS DURING THE FIRST TERM AND THEY DID IT TAKE

151:21

EFFECT THEN, FOR SURE. DAVID: HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT THERE

151:26

BEING A WIDER WAR HERE? THAT WAS THE WARNING FROM THE

151:29

SUPREME LEADER BEFORE THE STRIKES TOOK PLACE.

151:31

THAT IF THEY WERE TO HAPPEN WE WOULD SEE THIS ESCALATE AND

151:33

ESCALATE WIDELY. AS WE HAVE HEARD FROM

151:35

COLLEAGUES AROUND THE REGION THIS MORNING, IT SOUNDS LIKE

151:38

THAT IS HAPPENING. THERE HAS BEEN ALL MATTER OF

151:43

MISSILE DEFENSE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS ROILING BEYOND

151:44

IRAN ACROSS THE REGION. HOW MUCH DOES THAT WORRY YOU AS

151:49

YOU TALK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S CAPACITY TO STICK WITH THIS AS

151:51

LONG AS HE NEEDS TO STICK WITH IT?

151:54

HOW MUCH DOES IT WHERE YOU HE MAY HAVE THAT IN? CHRISTINA:

151:58

IF I MAY, WHAT IS YOUR ASSESSMENT OF HOW MUCH

152:00

FIREPOWER IRAN HAS LEFT AND HOW LONG THEY CAN LAST? JOHN:

152:05

I THINK IT HAS BEEN DRAMATICALLY REDUCED BY

152:09

ISRAEL'S RESPONSE TO THE SECOND ICBM ATTACK AGAINST ISRAEL.

152:12

THE ISRAELIS RESPONDED IN LATE 2024 AND DID A LOT OF DAMAGE.

152:18

BETWEEN ISRAEL AND THE UNITED STATES AND THE 12-DAY WAR LAST

152:21

SUMMER, A LOT OF DAMAGE WAS DONE.

152:26

IRAN'S TERRORIST SURROGATES, THEY ARE PALE SHADOWS OF WHAT

152:27

THEY WERE BEFORE.

152:33

WHEN WE CAN SEE, APPARENTLY, IS AT LEAST SOME MISSILES HAVE

152:35

BEEN LODGED AGAINST THE GULF ARAB STATES AND AGAINST ISRAEL.

152:43

THEY ARE REPORTING THAT THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT HAS SAID THEY

152:47

WILL JOIN THE UNITED STATES AND RESPONDING TO THE ATTACKS FROM

152:52

IRAN, AND APPARENTLY QATAR HAS SAID SOMETHING SIMILAR.

152:56

IF THE IRANIANS WANT TO TRY TO RIDE THE WAR, THEY ARE SIGNING

153:00

MORE DEATH WARRANTS FOR THEMSELVES, I THINK. DAVID:

153:03

IN A BROADER CONTEXT, WE SAW THE STATEMENT FROM RUSSIA THIS

153:05

MORNING. A LOT OF WHATABOUTISM. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS OVER THE

153:09

COURSE OF THE MORNING. IRAN FOR A LONG TIME ENJOYED

153:13

THE SUPPORT OF RUSSIA AND WE HAVE SEEN RUSSIA GREATLY

153:16

REDUCED BY ITS ADVENTURISM IN UKRAINE AND THAT IT HAS BEEN

153:19

MARGINALIZED ON THE WORLD STAGE. HOW DO YOU LOOK AT THESE TWO

153:23

POWERS IN COMPLEMENT, IRAN AND RUSSIA, AND WHAT DOES THAT TELL

153:27

YOU ABOUT THIS MOMENT AND WHY THIS HAPPENED NOW? JOHN:

153:30

YOU NEED TO BRING CHINA INTO THE PICTURE TOO BECAUSE OF ITS

153:34

DEPENDENCE ON IRANIAN OIL DESPITE OUR SANCTIONS.

153:38

THE RUSSIANS COULD NOT SAVE THE ROSATO GENE -- CANNOT SAVE THE

153:42

ASSAD REGIME WHEN FORCES SWEPT INTO POWER IN DAMASCUS RUSSIA

153:45

WAS NOT ABLE TO SAVE MADURO. THE REGIME ITSELF STILL IN

153:52

POWER IN VENEZUELA, UNFINISHED BUSINESS IN MY VIEW, BUT RUSSIA

153:54

HAS BEEN SEVERELY DEPLETED BECAUSE OF THE UKRAINE WAR.

153:57

NOT ENOUGH TO STOP THAT WAR, BUT ENOUGH TO MAKE IT VERY HARD

154:04

FOR THEM TO GO AFTER THEIR PUNITIVE ALLIES ELSEWHERE IN

154:05

THE WORLD.

154:11

IN THE PAST WEEK OR SO, IT WAS REPORTED BEING ON THE VERGE OF

154:16

SIGNING A CONTRACT TO SELL IRAN ANTISHIP MISSILES WHICH ARE OF

154:19

GREAT CONCERN TO US. THIS IS ONE REASON WHY ACTING

154:25

NOW AGAINST IRAN SAVES US FROM POTENTIALLY EVEN GREATER RISK

154:26

IN THE FUTURE. CHRISTINA: AMBASSADOR, BEFORE WE LET YOU

154:32

GO, WE'VE SEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP GO AFTER THE LEADER OF

154:35

VENEZUELA, NOW GO AFTER THE LEADERSHIP OF IRAN.

154:37

IT'S STILL UNCLEAR HOW SUCCESSFUL THOSE EFFORTS WERE.

154:40

WHY DON'T WE SEE THAT SAME APPETITE TO GO AFTER OTHER

154:44

AUTOCRATS WHO HAVE CAUSED CONFLICT?

154:47

THE FIRST NAME THAT COMES TO MIND IS VLADIMIR PUTIN.

154:49

WHY DOES THE PRESIDENT HAVE A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO MORE

154:52

PRUDENT THAN OTHER LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD? JOHN:

154:56

HE THINKS HE AND PRESIDENT PUTIN ARE FRIENDS, HE AND XI

155:00

JINPING, KIM JONG-UN, RITA BAIRD -- ERDOGAN, THEY ARE

155:05

FRIENDS. THE EFFORT TO OVERTHROW THE

155:09

GOVERNMENT OF MAJURO, WE TRIED AND FAILED IN 2018 AND 2019.

155:14

TRUMP IS JUST GETTING BACK TO I THINK THE THINGS THAT I WAS

155:17

CERTAINLY HOPING HE WOULD DO THEN, AND MAYBE THE GOVERNMENT

155:22

-- THE POST-CASTRO GOVERNMENT IN CUBA WOULD BE NEXT.

155:26

CHRISTINA: WE APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHTS.

155:28

DAVID: FOLLOWING AMBASSADOR BOLTON,

155:32

MARK CHAMPION, A BLOOMBERG OPINION COLUMNIST AT THE CENTER

155:36

FOR STRATEGIC AND INTERNATIONAL STUDIES.

155:38

MARK CHAMPION, YOU ARE OUT WITH A PIECE THIS MORNING FOCUSED ON

155:42

WHAT THE U.S.'S OBJECTIVES WERE. TO SUMMARIZE THE PIECE THE

155:45

OBJECTIVES WERE EVERYTHING. I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU MADE OF

155:48

THE STATEMENT FROM THE PRESIDENT THIS MORNING.

155:50

TO READ A LITTLE, THE U.S. HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE.

155:54

THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT CANNOT WORK THIS TIME.

155:57

ONE THING IS CERTAIN, THERE IS NOBODY IN WASHINGTON WHO CAN BE

156:00

SURE WHERE THIS WAR OF CHOICE LEADS.

156:02

HOW DID YOU PROCESS WITH THE PRESIDENT SAID?

156:05

AS YOU RIGHTLY POINTED OUT WE'VE GOT MIXED EXPLANATIONS

156:09

FROM THE PRESIDENT ABOUT WHAT THE OBJECTIVES ARE FROM THE

156:12

MILITARY OR DIPLOMATIC TRACK. YOUR SENSE OF THE SPEECH FROM

156:14

THE PRESIDENT THIS MORNING? MARK:

156:18

YEAH, I WAS STRUCK BY HOW MANY DIFFERENT GOALS HE PACKED IN

156:19

THERE. THE ONE THAT HE WAS SLIGHTLY

156:29

HEDGED ON WAS THE NUCLEAR GOAL, BUT ONLY BECAUSE HE CLAIMED

156:32

DURING THE LAST ATTACK THAT THE PROGRAM WAS OBLITERATED.

156:38

SO, THAT WAS DIFFICULT TO MAJOR ON THIS TIME, BUT NEVERTHELESS

156:43

DESTROYING THE NAVY, DESTROYING THE BALLISTIC MISSILE CAPACITY,

156:47

THE FACTORIES FOR THE BALLISTIC MISSILES, AND ULTIMATELY REGIME

156:52

CHANGE. TO ME, THAT IS THE KEY.

156:56

IF THE U.S. WERE GOING TO ATTACK IN A BIG

157:01

WAY AND WANTED TO ACHIEVE THESE THINGS THAT I COULD NOT ACHIEVE

157:05

IN THE NEGOTIATION, REMEMBER THEY DID GO AND TRY TO

157:06

NEGOTIATE. THEY DID SAY TO THE IRANIANS WE

157:13

NEED A COMPLETE END TO YOUR NUCLEAR ACTIVITIES.

157:18

THEY WANTED ALSO TO TALK ABOUT MISSILES AND PROXIES.

157:19

THE IRANIANS SAID NO. THAT WAS FAIRLY PROTECTABLE,

157:26

BUT NEVERTHELESS WHAT THEY ARE SAYING NOW IS WE WILL DO THIS

157:29

BY FORCE, BUT IT ONLY REALLY WORKS IF YOU GET REGIME CHANGE.

157:32

THAT'S THE LESSON OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE.

157:39

THAT WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL SET, IN MILITARY TERMS, OF

157:42

ATTACKS LAST SUMMER WHEN THE ISRAELI AND U.S.

157:49

AIR FORCES ATTACKED THE NUCLEAR SITES AND OTHER MISSILE

157:50

LAUNCHES, ETC. THEY TOOK OUT A LOT OF THE AIR

157:54

DEFENSES WHICH HAS MADE THIS ATTACK MUCH EASIER.

157:59

THE LESSON OF THAT WAS, WE'RE BACK.

158:01

WE ARE BACK AT DOING IT AGAIN. WHY? THERE WAS NO REGIME CHANGE.

158:07

AND IS THE SAME REGIME. THEY HAVE THE SAME GOALS.

158:11

THEY HAVE THE MEANS TO REBUILD THEIR PROGRAMS. THEY REBUILT

158:15

THEIR BALLISTIC MISSILE STUFF THAT WAS DESTROYED FAIRLY

158:19

QUICKLY. THAT'S REALLY THE KEY HERE.

158:22

EITHER IT WORKS IN WHICH CASE YOU GET REGIME CHANGE, OR

158:27

NOT. CHRISTINA:CHRISTINA: MONA, WHAT IS YOUR ASSESSMENT

158:30

OF HOW REGIONAL ALLIES FEEL ABOUT REGIME CHANGE?

158:34

IF THERE IS A POWER VACUUM, A CIVIL WAR, THEY WILL FEEL THE

158:38

CONSEQUENCES OF THAT FIRST. QATAR, THE UAE, BAHRAIN, THE

158:41

OMANI'S WHO WERE FACILITATING THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT WERE FOR

158:44

NAUGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY READ OF EVEN IF

158:49

THEY ARE NOT FANS OF THE IRANIAN REGIME FEARS THEY MAY

158:51

HAVE AROUND IT IMPLODING? MONA THEY ARE NOT FANS OF THE

158:57

IRANIAN REGIME AND YOU HAVE SEEN SHARP STATEMENTS COME OUT

159:01

OF BOTH SAUDI ARABIA, THE UAE WITH RESPECT TO STRIKES THAT

159:05

IRAN HAS ALREADY TAKEN, RETALIATORY STRIKES COME ON U.S.

159:07

TARGETS IN THEIR COUNTRIES. THAT SIAID, THERE IS NO DOUBT

159:13

THAT THIS IS A NIGHTMARE SCENARIO FOR THE NEIGHBORING

159:17

GULF COUNTRIES. THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT THEY HAD

159:20

BEEN HOPING AGAINST AND HAD BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY BEHIND

159:25

THE SCENES IN ORDER FOR NEGOTIATIONS AND DIPLOMACY TO

159:30

BE SUCCESSFUL. I HEARD EARLY THIS MORNING FROM

159:35

AN OMANI CONTACT WHO SAID THIS IS THE WORST SCENARIO THAT WE

159:38

FEARED PLAYING OUT. IT IS STILL EARLY DAYS.

159:43

IT'S HARD TO SAY EXACTLY HOW THE VARIOUS REPERCUSSIONS ARE

159:47

GOING TO UNFOLD, BUT I THINK THIS IS

159:49

GOING TO GET A LOT MORE COMPLICATED IN THE COMING DAYS

159:50

AND PERHAPS WEEKS. DAVID: LET ME ASK ABOUT THE POLITICS

159:54

OF IMPATIENCE. PRESIDENTIAL IMPATIENCE HAS

160:00

BECOME A JOKE AS WE TRY TO COUNT HOW MANY WARS THE

160:03

PRESIDENT SAYS THAT HE SOLVED. DRAWING THAT TOGETHER IS THE

160:06

SPEED WITH WHICH HE SAYS HE HAS DONE IT.

160:09

VENEZUELA, THAT WAS A MAJOR EVENT THAT HAPPENED OVER THE

160:14

COURSE OF NOT EVEN 24 HOURS, 12 HOURS.

160:17

WE SEE THE AFTERMATH OF THAT, THE DIFFICULTY ON THE GROUND IN

160:20

VENEZUELA OF PLOTTING A PATH FORWARD.

160:22

YOU HAVE AN INTERIM PRESIDENT TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WHO SHE IS

160:25

RESPONSIBLE TO. HER PARTY, THE PEOPLE IN

160:29

VENEZUELA, OR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

160:31

TO WHAT AMBASSADOR BOLTON SAID, THIS IS A PRESIDENT THAT WILL

160:39

HAVE TO HAVE SOME STICK WITH IT -NESS IN IRAN GOING FORWARD.

160:42

DO YOU SEE THAT IN LIGHT OF OTHER ADVENTURES AROUND THE

160:44

WORLD? MARC: NO, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND HE

160:47

MAY NOT HAVE A LOT OF CHOICE. THAT'S THE THING ABOUT STARTING

160:50

A MAJOR WAR. THIS IS NOT A SPECIAL OPERATION.

160:55

WHAT YOU HAD IN VENEZUELA WAS A COMMAND OPERATION.

161:02

IT COULD HAVE GONE BADLY WRONG IN A WAY THAT THE OPERATION

161:06

ORDER BY PRESIDENT CARTER WENT WRONG IN 1979 IN IRAN.

161:09

IT COULD HAVE GONE WRONG, BUT IT WENT VERY WELL AND I THINK

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THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THIS IS HAPPENING NOW.

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BASICALLY, THE PRESIDENT HAS HAD TWO VERY SUCCESSFUL

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MILITARY OPERATIONS. THE FIRST IN VENEZUELA AND THE

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SECOND LAST SUMMER WHEN THEY BOMBED THE NUCLEAR SITES IN

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IRAN. THEY DID THAT SUCCESSFULLY.

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WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY DESTROYED EVERYTHING, BUT THE

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PLANES WENT HOME AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DAMAGE DONE.

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I THINK THAT ENCOURAGED HIM TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE A GO NOW.

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IT'S JUST THAT I'M VERY DUBIOUS HE HAS A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF

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HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO CONTROL EVENTS ONCE YOU BEGIN A

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LARGE-SCALE CONFLICT. AND ALSO HOW DIFFICULT IT CAN

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BE TO END THEM ON YOUR TERMS. CHRISTINA:

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I WONDER WHAT YOUR ASSESSMENT WAS ON THE IMPACT OF IRAN'S

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NUCLEAR PROGRAM AFTER THE FIRST ROUND OF STRIKES?

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THE PRESIDENT SAID WE DESTROYED THOSE FACILITIES.

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WE OBLITERATED THEM. NUCLEAR EXPERTS THAT I TALKED

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TO WERE LESS SURE. WE ARE NOW TALKING ABOUT IRAN

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BEING ABLE TO BUILD THOSE BACK QUICKLY.

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IS THAT ASSESSMENT ACCURATE? WE HEARD THE PRESIDENT SAY THAT

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THERE WAS AN IMMINENT THREAT. WAS THE BREAKOUT TIME THAT

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DIFFERENT THAN 3, 4, FIVE WEEKS AGO? MONA: I DON'T THINK SO.

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SURELY THE PRESIDENT SAID OBLITERATED FOR HIS OWN

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POLITICAL REASONS LAST JUNE, BUT BY ALL ACCOUNTS THE NUCLEAR

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FACILITIES DID SUSTAIN SOME AMOUNT IF NOT SIGNIFICANT

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DAMAGE. MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE WERE NO

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INTELLIGENCE REPORTS SUGGESTING THAT IRAN WAS EMINENTLY GOING

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TO HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON CAPABILITY.

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ON THE CONTRARY, THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT WERE ONGOING

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WORK, IN FACT, FOCUSED ON WHETHER AND HOW IRAN MIGHT BE

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WILLING TO COMPROMISE ITS AMBITIONS, POTENTIALLY EVEN

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DOWN TO ZERO ENRICHMENT. IT'S NOT AT ALL CLEAR THAT WE

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WERE THERE. BY MANY ACCOUNTS WE WERE FAR

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APART, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S VERY HARD TO MAKE THE CASE THAT

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THERE WAS AN IMMINENT THREAT OF IRANIAN NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES.

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CHRISTINA: WE HAVE SOME LINES COMING IN

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FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT FROM U.S. OFFICIAL SECRETARY OF STATE

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RUBIO. LAID OUT THE SITUATION AND

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CONSULTED THE GANG OF EIGHT TUESDAY IN AN HOUR-LONG

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BRIEFING. SECRETARY RUBIO THEN MADE CALLS

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TO ALL OF THE MEMBERS TO GIVE THEM A HEADS UP AHEAD OF TIME.

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THEY SAID THAT HE SUCCESSIVELY CONNECTED WITH SEVEN OF EIGHT

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AND ONE WAS NOT REACHABLE. DAVID:

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JOHN THUNE THE LEADER IN THE SENATE WAS ONE OF THEM AND HE

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PRAYS TO SECRETARY RUBIO FOR THE INFORMATION HE GOT IN

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ADVANCE OF THIS. LET ME CLOSE BY ASKING ABOUT

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THE GRAVITY OF WHAT HAPPENED. WE SEE THE PRESIDENT GO TO A

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PODIUM THAT MAR-A-LAGO NOT WEARING A NECK TIE, WEARING A

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WHITE BASEBALL CAP WITH USA EMBLAZONED ON IT, RELEASING A

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STATEMENT TO NO CHRIS, NO ONE WAS IN THE AUDIENCE, POSTED ON

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SOCIAL MEDIA, AND HE'S NOT SCHEDULED TO SPEAK TODAY.

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-- TECHNO-PRESS, NO ONE WAS IN THE AUDIENCE, POSTED ON SOCIAL

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MEDIA, AND HE'S NOT SCHEDULED TO SPEAK TODAY.

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HE IS A PRESIDENT OF WORK NOW. HE HAS CHARACTERIZED THIS AS A

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WAR. HOW DO YOU CONTRAST THAT, THE

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GRAVITY OF THE MOMENT, WITH THE WAY THAT --THE WAY THAT HE IS

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APPROACHING THIS? MARC: I CAN'T SAY THAT IT'S A

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SURPRISE. THIS IS THE WAY THE PRESIDENT

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TRUMP HAS APPROACHED THESE THINGS.

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IT IS AN EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFERENT FROM PREVIOUS UNITED

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STATES PRESIDENTS. IT IS NOT MY TASTE THAT THAT IS

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HOW I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY LEADER ANNOUNCED THAT HE HAS

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TAKEN A COUNTRY TO WAR. MY PREFERENCE WOULD ALSO BE

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THAT HE WOULD GO FIRST TO

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CONGRESS AND GET PERMISSION, AGREEMENT, FOR A WORD OF CHOICE.

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AS WAS SAID BEFORE, THERE WAS NO IMMINENT THREAT HERE.

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EVEN IF THE IRANIANS HAD BEEN ABLE TO RECONSTITUTE THEIR

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NUCLEAR PROGRAM, THE PROGRAM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS AN URANIUM

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ENRICHMENT PROGRAM. THAT'S THE FIRST STEP TOWARDS

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BUILDING A WARHEAD AND PUTTING IT ON A MISSILE.

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IT'S NOT YET -- THERE IS A DISTANCE BETWEEN THOSE THINGS.

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IT IS IMPORTANT, THE BREAKOUT THING IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE BUT

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NOT AN IMMINENT THREAT. IT IS TRUMP.

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IT IS ENTIRELY TRUMP.

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I IMAGINE THAT HIS BASE LIKES THAT.

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HE THINKS THAT IMAGE WILL WORK FOR HIM.

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NOT TO MY TASTE, BUT THAT IS WHO HE IS.

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CHRISTINA: THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US

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TODAY. DAVID: TURNING TO MARKETS AND THE

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ECONOMY. A FOCUS FOR US AS WE WATCH THIS

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UNFOLD. WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PRIME

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MINISTER OF THE UNITED KINGDOM NOW SAYING THAT U.K.

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PLANES ARE IN THE SKY FOR DEFENSIVE OPERATIONS AND WE

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WILL MONITOR WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER IS SAYING.

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TOM KEENE ON BLOOMBERG RATE AND YOUTUBE JOINS US.

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I WONDER HOW YOU ARE PROCESSING ALL OF THIS.

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YOU AND I HAVE BEEN IN THE STUDIO FOR MAJOR EVENTS LIKE

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THIS ONE BEFORE. HOW ARE YOU FRAMING THIS IN THE

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CONTEXT THROUGH THE PRISM OF MARKETS AND THE ECONOMY? TOM:

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THE MARKETS WILL VOTE, NOT MONDAY MORNING NEW YORK TIME,

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WITH THE TRADING OF THE

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JAPANESE YEN OPENING AT 7:00-ISH SUNDAY EVENING NEW

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YORK TIME. WE WILL GET A VOTE ON BRENT

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CRUDE. $100 A BARREL CLOSING AT $73 A

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BARREL ON FRIDAY. I HAVE NO INFORMATION ON IF WE

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EXPLODE UP IN THE PRICE OF OIL, BUT THAT WILL BE THE FIRST

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MARKET THAT PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT. THE OTHER IS THE SWISS FRANC.

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IN ALL OF THE THINGS THAT DAVID AND I HAVE BEEN THROUGH, GOING

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BACK DECADES AND DECADES, THE SWISS FRANC BECOMES THE

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ULTIMATE MONITOR. CHRISTINA: WHEN POLITICAL EVENTS HAPPEN

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LIKE THIS, WHAT HISTORICALLY MATTERS MORE?

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THE HEADLINE OR SOMETHING MORE? THE DURATION? WHAT MATTERS MORE?

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TOM: HISTORICALLY IT IS THE SUPPLY

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LINES. IT IS STARK.

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DAVID, YOU HAVE COVERED THE ALLOCATION OF PETROLEUM

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PRODUCTS FROM IRAN USED TO BE A BLENDED MIX.

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NOW, AS THE PRESIDENT WOULD SAY, IT IS CHINA, CHINA, CHINA.

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IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE PETROLEUM DISRUPTION TO

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CHINA PLAYS IN HERE. NO ONE HAS TALKED ABOUT CHINA

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YET. MAYBE ON MONDAY OR TUESDAY WE

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WILL LEARN MORE ABOUT BEIJING. CHRISTINA:

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WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW PRESIDENT TRUMPS POLICY IMPACTS

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MARKETS BUT THIS IS A PRESIDENT THAT WATCHES MARKETS AND

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NUMBERS CLOSELY. HOW DO YOU THINK THOSE NUMBERS

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WILL IMPACT THE PRESIDENT'S POLICY IF THIS CONTINUES AND

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THE NUMBER START TO LOOK BAD? TOM:

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ALWAYS HE MONITORS THE STOCK MARKET.

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TO SEE WHAT NOT ONLY THE STOCK MARKET HERE DOES BUT A BOOMING

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SOUTH KOREA AND A MASSIVE BULL MARKET.

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HE WILL MONITOR THE EQUITY MARKETS.

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I THINK THAT THE BLOOMBERG WORLD WILL LOOK AT INTEREST

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RATES TO CLOSE ON THE U.S. 10 YEAR YIELD UNDER 4%.

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A BIG DEAL. 3.94%. LIKE THE BANK OF MONTREAL MAKES

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CLEAR, HE'S NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT FOR A DISTANT 3.7 5%.

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WILL IT BE PRICE UPCOMING YIELD DOWN ON MONDAY AND THE BOND

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MARKET? NO OBVIOUSLY, OIL, BUT I WILL

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GO OLD SCHOOL AND SAY TO WATCH THE SWISS FRANC. DAVID:

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A FEW PEOPLE HERE READ AS WIDELY OR DEEPLY AS YOU.

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I WONDER WHO YOU WILL BE LOOKING TO FOR ANALYSIS?

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I THINK PETER TCHIR WHO WRITES A LOT ABOUT GLOBAL MACRO RISK.

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I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU HAVE READ IF ANYTHING THIS MORNING THAT

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YOU WOULD WANT TO BRING TO THE TABLE.

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WHO YOU ARE LOOKING TO HEAR FROM WHEN IT COMES TO MARKET

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VOICES, ECONOMIC VOICES. WHO WILL GIVE YOU A BETTER

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SENSE OF THE IMPACT? TOM: ALL OF THE STAFF WORKING ON

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SATURDAY CAME TO ME WITH THE SAME QUESTION.

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THE FIRST NAME OUT OF MY MOUTH IS MY BOOK OF THE YEAR A COUPLE

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OF YEARS AGO. THE LOOM OF TIME, THE VIEW

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ACROSS THE ARAB WORLD. FROM MOROCCO TO PERSIA, WHICH

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IS NOT PART OF THE ARAB WORLD. THE ONE PERSON THAT I WANT TO

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TALK TO YOU RIGHT NOW IS ROBERT D KAPLAN. CHRISTINA:

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BITCOIN IS DOWN -- JOHN: BITCOIN IS DOWN, WHAT DOES IT

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SAY ABOUT THE RISK APPETITE?

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TOM: IT IS ALL WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.

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TO BREAK DOWN UNDER A 63 PRINT, 59,000 PRINT, LISA, I WOULD

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ASSUME WOULD BE A HUGE DEAL. I WISH THAT KATIE GREIFELD WAS

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HERE. BUT THE ANSWER IS, THAT'S ALL

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WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW. THE CHANGES AS WE GO INTO THE

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UNITED STATES EARLY SUNDAY EVENING. DAVID:

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LET ME ASK HOW YOU LOOK AT THIS IN CONFIDENCE WHAT HAS BEEN

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DRIVING THE MARKET OVER THE LAST WEEK OR TWO.

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SO MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRIVATE CREDIT SPACE, THE

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PROSPECTS FOR AI BEING REVOLUTIONARY OR A BUBBLE.

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HOW DO YOU LOOK AT THOSE THREE THINGS?

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WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE OTHER TWO STORIES? TOM:

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THE NEWS FLOW ON FRIDAY WAS EXTRAORDINARY.

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I THOUGHT THAT I CAME IN FOR A THREE-HOUR SHOW. CHRISTINA:

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NEVER SAY THAT IT WILL BE A SLOW NEWS DAY. YOU KNOW THAT.

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TOM: IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE FRIDAY AND

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NOW WE HAVE THESE EVENTS. MARC CHAMPION WAS RIVETING.

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WE WILL HEAR FROM THE PRESIDENT, FROM THE SECRETARY

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OF STATE MARCO RUBIO, AND OTHER VOICES THAT WILL SURPRISE US.

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I KNOW WORKING OFF THE BLOOMBERG TERMINAL ON THE PHONE

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THAT THE NEWS FLOW WHICH YOU HAVE TRIED TO HARNESS THIS

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MORNING, IT'S FRANTIC. I HAVE THREE OR FOUR STORIES

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THAT I CAN SAY HERE IS THE NEWS ITEM BUT I DO NOT HAVE IT

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PROPERLY SOURCED. DAVID: TOM KEENE, ON A VERY BUSY

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MORNING HERE COME THE DEBUT OF OUR SHOW BLOOMBERG THIS WEEKEND.

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WE WOKE UP TO THE NEWS THAT THE U.S. ATTACKED IRAN AND WE HAVE

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WATCHED IN REAL TIME HOW FRENETIC THE NEWS FLOW HAS BEEN.

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LOOKING AT STATEMENTS FROM WORLD LEADERS, FROM

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CONGRESSIONAL OFFICIALS. CHRISTINA, THAT WILL BE

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SOMETHING THAT PERSISTS OVER THE COURSE OF THE WEEKEND.

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WE WILL BE BACK HERE TOMORROW ON BLOOMBERG RADIO, BLOOMBERG

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STREAMING, BLOOMBERG.COM, THE BLOOMBERG APP, MORE ON THE

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ONGOING CRISIS IN IRAN STARTING TOMORROW AT 7:00 A.M. EASTERN.

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CHRISTINA: WE WILL SEE YOU BACK HERE AT

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THE SAME TIME TOMORROW.

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Interactive Summary

On a Saturday morning, the U.S. and Israel launched joint military strikes on Iran, which quickly retaliated with missile attacks targeting U.S. bases and Israel, escalating into a regional conflict. President Trump announced the operation via social media, emphasizing the goal of preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and encouraging Iranians to overthrow their regime. The strikes and subsequent retaliation led to airspace closures and shelter-in-place orders across the Middle East. Discussions revolved around congressional authority for the military action, the potential for U.S. casualties, and the economic impact, particularly on oil markets. Unconfirmed reports from Israeli media suggested the death of Iran's Supreme Leader. Analysts debated the U.S.'s long-term strategy, the timing of the strikes amidst ongoing negotiations, and the implications for regional stability and U.S. credibility.

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