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well Megan Kelly looks to be parting

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ways with NBC her show is now cancelled

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Megan Kelly just landed a new gig why

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would she given a platform in the first

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place we're doing this program because

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we believe there's an urgent need for

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independent voices in the media

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landscape I know the audience you have I

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can reasonably guess it it's

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enormous podcast Rumble YouTube Twitter

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with Elon that's the problem a lot of

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people in cable news Megan are fighting

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yesterday's War they're not the problem

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now you're the problem ladies and

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Gentlemen please welcome Megan

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Kelly kid great to see you thank you for

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coming hi thanks for being here all

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right Hi Megan how are nice to see you

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hey Megan did you get to hear Peter teal

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Megan I did just the tail end just a bit

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what do you think of Peter he's

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brilliant yeah yeah I mean thank God for

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him right it's like there's a few guys

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in Tech with a lot of money keeping

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Republican candidates alive and we need

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every single one of

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them go he starting early um I think all

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of them were here today

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um

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[Applause]

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um you seem incredibly uh happy as an

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independent broadcaster and running your

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own show maybe uh number one am I right

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that you're just just absolutely engaged

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and excited again about broadcasting

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because it seemed like the tail end of

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your working for the machine was

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particularly challenging oh yeah tell us

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that's a polite way of saying it I'm

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trying to be polite no it's fine yeah

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you are well the last time you kind of

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blew remember when you called him a

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prick on on TV I do I do it was it was

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good natured it was good um yeah no I'm

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so I'm so much happier and it's really

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changed my whole view on on cancel

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culture you know I really I'm a Believer

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in cancel culture now I think it

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separates individuals from companies

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where they do not belong where the

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values are not aligned and I really

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can't

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imagine being right now at NBC or

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frankly at Fox News in this environment

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and having to comport with their rules

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on how we talk about these very dicey

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issues that are all over the news today

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I I could not do it it was just a matter

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of time before I was cancelled yeah talk

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about producing a show now that is the

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largest you're now the largest

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broadcaster in in the news category on

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YouTube crushing everybody else CNN Fox

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their YouTube channels uh now bow down

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before you and you are an independent

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company with I understand six people

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yeah um six producers six producers um

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so that is how many people at the peak

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NBC Fox did you have working in your

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group well I probably had about 15

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producers but Fox is always lean CNN

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Anderson Cooper show which was you know

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across from us for a while minus one

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hour had something like 100 staffers so

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think about it so we did not in July we

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did not beat CNN but we had two-thirds

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of CNN's YouTube audience two-thirds

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every single Dollar in the multi-billion

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dollar CNN audience went into obviously

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their live broadcasts which we Crush we

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Crush their numbers you know dollar to

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dollar in terms of like the podcast and

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so on but let's just look at YouTube so

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all those resources go into their

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YouTube feed as well and it's got every

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show on CNN every single talent and our

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one show with my six producers crushed

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the well came close to crushing them all

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and did Crush CBS and NBC which was a

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particularly

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nice when you

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left my understanding of these deals

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when Tucker left on Lemon um and you

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leave those broadcast ones it's kind of

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like they're paying you to not compete

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you can't go work for another Network so

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were you was that the case with you if

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you can say it and and then you were

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kind of forced to become an independent

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broadcaster I wasn't forced I was only

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forced to have my show end at NBC and

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beyond that I don't think I'm at Liberty

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to speak of the specifics but um I was

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free to get another job I just wasn't

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sure I would there was a couple of years

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there that were dark and depressing and

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my industry is incredibly disgusting and

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toxic and awful perhaps you've watched

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the news and you know um and I just sat

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on the couch thinking why would I go

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back into that that was terrible and it

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makes you a bad person and unhappy and

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all they do is stimulate outrage all the

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time and then get rich off of it and you

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have to push somebody else's agenda and

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I don't want to do any of that and it

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wasn't until the first the pandemic hit

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and then you know we started to lose our

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minds on all the mandates and then

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George Floyd and then we really lost our

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minds and seeing those people in the

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streets trying to make people put down

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their burgers and say black lives matter

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is when I got up off my couch and said

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now it's on like I I can't stand when

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people make me do things I really I

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can't stand bullies and it's in my DNA

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to stand up against them and so I had to

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get back on the air and I said to my

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therapist who is really

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underpaid

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um what if nobody watches you know what

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if nobody listens it was just a podcast

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at the time no Visual and uh he's from

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South Africa and he said well I'll

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listen I said okay great he said and

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Doug will listen my husband I'm like

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well I got two and that was four years

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ago and now it's going great how has

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your approach changed if at all in terms

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of what you want to produce and what

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conversations you want to have because

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you no longer have to think well what

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does Roger ell's think or this NBC

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person or or everybody in between you

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you actually the buck stops at your desk

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at your microphone you're the decider

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now so how what what is your framework

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for deciding what to put on there

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because you do also now um suffer from

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hey you're in YouTube if it bleeds it's

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lead leads if it has rage associated

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with it it's going to get more clicks so

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how do you mitigate that you know well I

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I love my producers and a few of them

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have been with me for over 10 years 15

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years plus from Fox News from the

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earliest show I ever did in 2007 to now

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so they know me very well and they know

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what lights my fire and if I feel that

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fire in the belly does it's usually not

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outraged it's just fire in the belly

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over the news then it's a good story for

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me and that differs host to host you

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know what what drives you nuts what what

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do you need to have your say on and so

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for me speaking of therapists it's like

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therapy to go out there on the set and

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say what I know is true right just say

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what's true about the news and then we

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can argue about the meaning and our

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opinions on what's true but what's true

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should not be so Up For Debate um but

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yeah I have a few through lines that my

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team always knows will get me excited

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and since the beginning Free Speech has

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been one of them and the thing about the

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cops it's not coincidental that that's

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what got me up because I've been at Fox

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you know 14 years I was there and I have

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a brother who's a police officer he's a

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retired lieutenant and one of the most

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Honorable Men you'll ever meet in your

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life and I am just so sick and have been

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so sick of the lies that have been told

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about cops it's brutal we have law

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enforcement in my family as well and

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it's really hard to watch this yeah yes

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it's so egregious this is is not to

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excuse the few bad apples that you see

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on the news but they are so not

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representative of your average police

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officer absolutely not and it's these

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guys make no money you know they they

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don't get a lot of Glory they risk their

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lives they risk their lives every day

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for us right and now on top of all that

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they're treated like absolute by

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everyone the news media absolutely no

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qualms about ruining these guys' lives

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before any due process and that's what

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the media has been doing with everyone

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in the past five years no due process

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you are you're accused of anything

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you're guilty and there's really no

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Jones to figure out whether it's fair

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and so you know given my legal

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background because I practiced law for a

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decade that's another piece of it that

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always gets me fired up somebody being

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unfairly railroaded I think the topic

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you've been most on fire and I think

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it's very brave is the issues around uh

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trans issues trans rights and maybe

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young children um you're not a bigot but

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you're being framed as that when this

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discussion comes up maybe you could

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explain just what is your position

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on biological men in locker

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rooms you know and and maybe kids

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receiving hormones or having their

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bodies mutilated because they maybe feel

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like they're the opposite gender I don't

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want to lead the witness here but I

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think we're more in sync on this issue

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than maybe most yeah I don't care what

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they call me they can call me a bigot a

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Turf a trans misogynist which is not a

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thing

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um I will speak truth men cannot become

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women

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period women can't become men either and

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men and boys do not belong in women's

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spaces whether it's a bathroom a locker

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room or a sports event they

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don't and good men do not wish to access

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those

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places and by the way even if you have

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some empathy for someone who's genuinely

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struggling the problem is the camel's

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knows because as soon as you allow one

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person who may be genuinely struggling

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with this issue into your 17-year-old

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girl's locker room that opportunity will

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be exploited by openly Bad actors and

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when girls start getting hurt in these

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private spaces as they already have been

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listen to Riley gain's testimonial about

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what happened to her with Leah Thomas

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about how he was in there he was looking

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at her she was naked she had no idea an

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intact male was entering her locker room

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the humiliation she felt that counts as

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injury but we could go well beyond that

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because it's crossed over to actual

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physical so I am willing to fight to my

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dying day against that without judging

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trans people themselves what you do in

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the privacy of your own home or your own

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life is your business not mine unless

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you make it my business and then you

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will hear from me and if you make it my

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child's business times 10 and in your

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answer is empathy for somebody who is

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suffering from gender dysmorphia and and

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who's struggling with that issue uh um

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and you don't have a problem with those

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individuals as you said two or three

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times in that one answer yet you could

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give that disclaimer you could say you

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have empathy or sympathy for them and

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the only thing they're going to hear is

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you know something they project into it

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so it got a lot easier for me on the

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name calling in response to this issue

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once I realized the vast majority of

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people who want to call me a bigot or a

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Turf are men they are men posing as

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women so these are men trying to shame

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me out of standing up for my daughter

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and myself and my fellow women on our

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safe spaces it's that's the end of it

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they can take a seat because these men

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don't know the first thing they're

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showing up for at for mammograms you

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ladies know what it's like the older

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ones like me sitting in the mamogram

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office where you're out there waiting to

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go in and you're in your little robe and

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you're worried you're nervous you got to

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do it when you hit a certain age you're

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but you're you know what you're there

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for you guys have it on the other end um

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you're like I I hope I don't have cancer

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they say I need to go here I got to find

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it early you're sitting looking at other

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women and now we're having men men sneak

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in there not because they're actually

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worried because a very very small

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percentage can get but because they want

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to feel like women same thing at the

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OBGYN get out get out of our spaces I'm

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sick of this what I have

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empathy for is us women and girls

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somebody else can worry about the

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feelings of the men who want to access

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have can I

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um do you think that there are

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individuals who have been historically

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repressed

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and have now felt the freedom to come

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out and say that they are a different

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gender or do you think that there's

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something else socially going on what's

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what's what's going on and and you know

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why do you think that this has become

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such a prominent issue of late in the

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last couple of years yes 100% it has

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exploded as a social contagion and

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that's been documented by many people

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from very smart woman at Brown to

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Abigail shrier and her mustre book

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irreversible damage and Beyond uh but

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this is a social contag this is not

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populating in the way that it is just

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because we're more accepting now and if

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that were true you would see it

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everywhere um but what you're seeing it

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is more concentrated in more leftist

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States cities regions and that's because

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the more of it kids are exposed to the

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more they gravitate toward it and in

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that way it is like anorexia I just had

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Kelly J Kee in a pre-tape show today

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she's airing tomorrow she's an activist

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on this issue and she was saying if you

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go on YouTube and you Google anorexia or

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bulimia they won't show you the videos

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but if you Google top surgery which is

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the super sweet way of saying a double

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myectomy usually for 15 or 14 year old

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girls you can see all you want all day

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long and what's happening more and more

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is autistic children or children

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someplace on the

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Spectrum stumble on to this and in many

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cases have obsessive thinking to begin

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with and go down a rabbit hole that

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takes them hours on end down Reddit or

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one of these other websites sites and it

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does become an obsessive thought and

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then obsessive behavior and then you

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have a medical community that has

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submitted to affirm the standard is

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affirm not are your parents going

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through a divorce did you have really

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bad grades was there a sexual assault in

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your past which is so often the case for

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a lot of the young girls in particular

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no you're not even allowed to go there

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or you're considered engaging in

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conversion therapy it's crossover that's

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it puberty blockers cross- seex hormones

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those two things alone in that order

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high high likelihood you are sterile you

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are sterilizing yourself and your

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parents are allowing it just puberty

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blockers into to cross- seex hormones

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that's it never mind chopping off body

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parts and then they'll go to school and

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they'll say I'm no longer a girl and the

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school will hide it from the people who

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love that child most their parents if

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the parents aren't on the affirm

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board in New York City where I fled with

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my children because they were trying to

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do this to our schools and our classes

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that's the that's the policy private and

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public you do not tell the parents it's

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a secret what kind of country are we

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getting to be where we allow secrets

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between grown teachers and minors that

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the parents aren't allowed to know

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that's what we used to call

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grooming right it opens up a very

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dangerous

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door and why has this become politicized

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and how has it become politicized that I

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don't understand I don't understand how

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frankly anyone can vote Democrat right

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now I just don't get it I know that

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there's a priority of issues right and

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for some people

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it's oh David's here he just woke

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up for some people s or democrat

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what it's abortion or it's uh you know I

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can't think of the issues that would

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make you vote Democrat even though I

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used to vote Democrat I'm a registered

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independent I voted in eight

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presidential elections I voted Democrat

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four times and Republican four I'm about

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as independent as you can get well let

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me can we let's shift gears to the

15:30

election then so um yeah you piak his

15:35

interest I didn't think that was going

15:36

to be funny but so Megan I mean in

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addition to being a great broadcaster

15:40

you actually are a great uh political

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pundit I would say and prognosticator I

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remember being on your show at the

15:46

beginning of the Republican primary when

15:48

DeSantis was riding High making the case

15:50

for DeSantis obviously that was totally

15:52

wrong and you're like no you know like

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it's going to be Trump you know the

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Republican part is not done with Trump

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and you were exactly right

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um do you what's your take on where

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things are at right now and do you do

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you have a take on who's going to win I

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mean of course we all want to know that

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right that's why we follow these polls

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religiously because we want to Peak into

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what's going to happen I mean I think

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Trump right now is better positioned to

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win than he's ever been in any election

16:16

before if you look at where he is let's

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take the New York Times Sienna poll that

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just dropped that's the gold standard

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that's the best poll if you ask most

16:22

pollsters huge sample and likely voters

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and it's got Trump up one which is

16:28

basically a tie up one this time four

16:32

years ago Biden was up nine over Trump

16:36

and that election was this tight and it

16:39

had Biden up nine it said the

16:41

statistical probability of an electoral

16:43

college for Trump was

16:44

99.7% yeah if you look at the swing

16:47

States Nate sil's interpretation of that

16:49

poll that came out yeah and Nate now the

16:52

left is turning on Nate inexplicably

16:54

really I mean other than his data but

16:57

they loved Nate and they created Nate

16:59

but now that Nate's numbers aren't going

17:00

their way they're like who's Nate

17:01

connected to who's he working for Nate

17:03

like most prognosticators wants to be

17:06

right but look I'll say this and by the

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way in 16 it showed Hillary up too at

17:11

this point so and Trump won that

17:13

election you know the general wisdom is

17:15

that the Democrat has to be up some four

17:17

points or better in the National polling

17:21

given the fact that they usually win the

17:22

popular vote G just given how blue the

17:25

urban centers are in order to win in

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order to cross over in those swing

17:29

States and right now she's not I mean

17:32

that New York Times shows her down you

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were in the middle of the 2016 election

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I find this comparison very interesting

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so I'm curious your take contrast and

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compare Donald Trump versus Hillary

17:42

Clinton what day is it today

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September

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9th of that election and Donald Trump

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and kamla Harris September 9th

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now Trump had some advantages back then

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that he doesn't have now including his

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genuine Outsider status it was very

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attractive to a lot of Voters who had

18:06

never voted before speaking of getting

18:07

up off your couch um that really worked

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for him and Trump was incredibly vibrant

18:14

feisty fiery fun you know provocative

18:20

obviously controversial and new you know

18:23

we all knew Trump but we knew him as

18:24

this crazy n businessman with a lot of

18:26

color and suddenly he morphed under the

18:28

itical field like unlike anything we'd

18:31

ever seen I mean there was a reference

18:32

to penis size and a presidential debate

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yeah I was

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there um so that happened this time

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around people are a little bit more used

18:42

to Trump's bits right his routine he's

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obviously a little older but still

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vibrant I mean could any of you have

18:50

stood on that presidential stage and

18:52

given a nearly 2hour address a week

18:56

after someone shot you in the ear like I

18:59

was falling asleep and I was seated and

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fine you know I'm like I didn't need so

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he's got a lot of energy but he's not an

19:06

outsider exactly anymore he's he is

19:08

still one he's not taking like all the

19:09

money these fat cats and ready to kiss

19:11

their bottoms necessarily but he's lost

19:13

that what he's gained is a record you

19:16

know now Trump can go on this debate

19:18

stage tomorrow night with some real ammo

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you know if you were you better off four

19:23

years than you are today and really

19:25

point to his policies one of the great

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tragedies of the Trump era has been his

19:31

policies have been incredibly good for

19:34

America yeah it's just his rhetoric is

19:39

Sox divisive toxic depends on who you

19:42

ask right depends on who you ask that he

19:45

activating that the majority of

19:46

Americans dislike him and then what

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about Hillary versus K oh god well

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Hillary was smart

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[Applause]

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that they didn't they didn't hide

20:03

Hillary Hillary did interviews right I

20:05

had this I had this conversation just

20:07

this morning you can say what you want

20:09

about Hillary Clinton but she is

20:11

incredibly competent yeah incredibly

20:14

competent she's competent and she could

20:17

have done the job how she did it and

20:19

with what level of honesty and

20:21

Corruption would be a different story

20:23

but I I really think the problem for KLA

20:26

Harris is she's not smart she's not a

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deep thinker

20:29

she's very surface level yeah she's

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giggling just like that all the

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time

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spicy Megan tell us how you feel really

20:42

be honest and it's a cover it's an

20:44

obvious cover right it's like she gets

20:46

to the point where she doesn't know what

20:47

she's saying even she doesn't know what

20:48

she's saying and it's

20:50

like and so you feel uncomfortable

20:53

watching her and then she gave her first

20:55

interview to CNN and suddenly if that's

20:57

drunk Comm suddenly we're dealing with

20:59

hungover comma like my values haven't

21:03

changed like clearly somebody had told

21:05

her you cackle we're out of here yeah

21:10

what did you think about her bringing

21:11

her emotional support white guy exactly

21:15

her emotional support Governor he was

21:16

her big white blankie like I it made no

21:18

sense like it seemed like a terrible

21:20

strategic decision like who's making the

21:22

decision to do that I agree I objected

21:24

to the whole thing I think he was there

21:25

for two two purposes uh one was yes in

21:29

case she got in real trouble he could

21:30

step in yeah and the other was to suck

21:34

up some of the air times so she had a

21:35

couple of fewer questions to answer what

21:38

did you think of the job just

21:39

broadcaster or broadcaster Dana Bash did

21:41

um because she she did ask some tough

21:42

questions she did probe a little bit no

21:44

not enough she did terribly

21:48

okay I mean I don't I don't think it was

21:50

particularly hard but but that was not a

21:52

good job okay explain why what would you

21:54

have done differently so many things go

21:56

back and listen to my podcast the day

21:57

after cuz I took it apart forensically

21:59

bit by give us the top three here there

22:01

where were the follow-up questions where

22:02

were the hard-hitting follow-ups when

22:04

she said her nonsense like specifically

22:07

how what exactly caused you to change

22:09

your mind walk me through the process

22:11

and hit her with all of them not just a

22:13

couple and Tim Walls grammar the grammar

22:17

excuse that's why he said he carried a

22:19

weapon into war it was his grammar what

22:23

kind of BS was that and no followup yeah

22:25

yes and honestly all taken was do you

22:28

really want our audience to believe you

22:30

said you took weapons into war as a

22:33

soldier Okay because every every actual

22:36

service Personnel knows you don't

22:37

exaggerate something like that that's

22:39

hollowed ground you don't say you went

22:41

into war when you didn't and he's

22:42

already on the hot seat for having said

22:44

you know he was a command sergeant major

22:46

and he he didn't retire such and so on

22:48

anyway all it would have taken was you

22:50

really want this audience to believe

22:51

that was a grammatical error is that

22:53

your story no that she none of that was

22:56

done and it was just irritating because

22:59

there's so much for kamla Harris to be

23:01

cross-examined on she just she went to

23:03

sleep I mean the follow and the followup

23:05

question is just such an easy thing to

23:08

do you don't even have to say it as

23:09

aggressively as you did you just say

23:10

Okay so to be clear let me repeat back

23:12

to you grammar is the reason you said

23:15

but let me tell you something let me

23:16

tell you something some aggression was

23:17

warranted this is the problem her her

23:20

timidity is part of the problem because

23:22

I I challenge anybody go back and look I

23:24

did an interview with Trump in

23:26

September we've been through a he and I

23:30

well yeah that's an interesting

23:32

relationship it's a very interesting

23:34

relationship and I saw him at a

23:36

turningpoint event the previous August

23:38

and I said I'd love to sit down with you

23:40

he said great I'll do it so we sat down

23:42

September of last year it was a great

23:44

interview it was challenging he was not

23:47

in love with

23:48

it good which part where I hammered him

23:51

on the legal stuff yeah it had a

23:53

crescendo and a de Crescendo like every

23:55

good interview should you know we

23:56

started up off with some stuff that he

23:58

would like Joe Biden's old how about

24:00

that and then you built you warmed him

24:02

up a classic strategy right so on on the

24:05

on the legal on the law fair so judge

24:07

meron just moved the sentencing date

24:10

from I guess it was supposed to be a few

24:11

days ago to November 18th it occurs to

24:13

me that's two weeks after the election

24:15

so if meron wants to send Trump to

24:18

prison but is afraid to do it now

24:21

because it'd be a huge backlash right

24:23

before the election seems to me that's

24:25

kind of what you do you set the date two

24:26

weeks after do you

24:29

I mean what's your take on that do you

24:30

thinked if Trump loses the election do

24:32

you think he's going to Rikers no I

24:34

don't you don't think so I think there's

24:35

a possibility Maran will sentence him

24:38

because this whole case which was about

24:40

him writing down something in a book no

24:43

one ever saw it was in a book that

24:44

stayed on the Shelf at Trump Tower

24:47

didn't have the right thing it didn't

24:49

say hush money to Stormy Daniels it said

24:52

Legal Services no one ever saw that just

24:56

someone came knocking because they

24:57

wanted to mess with Trump found it and

24:58

said this isn't recorded accurately it's

25:00

a fraud and he got prosecuted and I

25:04

think judge Maran and has allowed Alvin

25:06

brag to turn it into you tried to steal

25:09

the election because now guys I'm sorry

25:11

to tell you but if you ever want to run

25:13

for office you have an ethical

25:14

obligation to let any woman accusing you

25:17

of any bad stuff come forward and say it

25:19

to everyone and if she says I won't hurt

25:22

you publicly whether it's true or not if

25:24

you just give me $130,000 you may not

25:27

pay her or you going to go to jail so

25:29

you must let yourself be blackmailed let

25:31

someone say this stuff about you true or

25:33

not or you're going to prison that's how

25:36

that case was tried that is now the

25:38

position that every politician is in

25:40

theoretically I mean the the case made

25:42

sense as a misdemeanor but not as a

25:44

felony I think you would Age no sense it

25:46

as a misdemeanor the statute of

25:47

limitations had expired sure but I mean

25:49

it clearly was escalated to a point but

25:51

I wonder how you think as with family

25:53

members you know in the um uh you know

25:57

that are cops um how you look at the

25:59

other cases um and if you think there's

26:01

any validity to them because there are

26:02

five cases we're talking about he's

26:04

guilty of the first three so far out of

26:05

three some of them feel trumped up um

26:08

but what about the last two you know the

26:10

the documents and the January 6th one do

26:11

you think there's any validity to them

26:13

no no validity the only the only thing

26:15

that Trump was potentially in trouble on

26:17

and the thing I hit him on when we

26:18

interviewed was not turning over the

26:20

documents once he had a subpena which

26:22

would have been so easy to do yes which

26:24

was dumb but he's Trump he should have

26:26

he always does self-destructive stff

26:28

gone away now too because of Jack Smith

26:30

not being properly appointed down there

26:32

but in answer to your question on on

26:33

Judge michon I think um he he almost is

26:37

in a position where he might have to

26:38

sentence him to jail given how big

26:40

they've tried to make it you stole an

26:41

election you stole but it'll it would be

26:44

at a suspended sentence it would be

26:45

immediately appealed and I think Trump

26:48

on appeal will win there are so many

26:50

holes in that case so I don't think

26:51

Trump will ever do one single day in

26:53

jail so Megan if um we look at the five

26:56

cases you know six months from there a

26:57

year from now let's assume all five of

26:59

them go to trial um he's guilty of three

27:01

so far wait what do you what do you mean

27:03

he's guilty of three so far he's been

27:04

convicted of three sorry what do you

27:05

mean know he hasn't um the ell uh no EEG

27:10

EEG Carol was guilty that was not a

27:12

conviction that was a civil case well

27:14

yes so that's what I'm talking about so

27:15

that okay but there's a big difference

27:17

it's still he was convicted he was

27:18

guilty of that you got a settl um in

27:23

the yeah in the Trump organization

27:26

they're guilty there

27:28

liable liable yes of course but these

27:30

are the cases we're talking about and in

27:32

the third one you know she's a lawyer

27:34

right yeah of course and in the third

27:35

one I'm just talking about the five

27:37

cases yes some are civil obviously and

27:39

and some some are not some are criminal

27:41

but if we look at all you said three

27:42

convictions now you're walking it back

27:44

I'm not walking it back there's three in

27:45

which he was you should walk it back so

27:48

glad Megan is here the five three of

27:50

them he's either guilty or he got a bad

27:52

result yeah got a bad result there are

27:55

two more if he is found guilty of those

27:57

two more mag

27:58

um and five of five he had a bad result

28:02

um way to frame it um will will you

28:06

chalk all five up in your mind to five

28:08

different jurisdictions five different

28:10

prosecutors five different juries and or

28:12

judges all conspiring to get him 100%

28:17

okay yes that's all I wanted to hear

28:19

your answer to five of five five

28:22

different jurisdictions you think it's

28:24

Carol they they changed the law so that

28:25

she could bring a civil lawsuit against

28:26

him and she did New York Jury New York

28:28

went 87% for Joe Biden that that that

28:32

fix was in right from the start the

28:33

fraud trial that Leticia James brought

28:35

against him has never been brought

28:36

there's no victims the banks who were

28:38

involved said we didn't lose a penny

28:39

what are we doing here we weren't

28:40

damaged nobody was complaining except

28:42

Tish James who ran for office saying I

28:44

will get him then you have Alvin Bragg

28:47

who's a George Soros funded prosecutor

28:49

who doesn't like to prosecute any crime

28:50

in New York City where I live for 17

28:52

years except if your name is Donald

28:53

Trump let's go down to Georgia where

28:55

Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade couldn't

28:57

keep their libidos in Jack long enough

28:58

to actually bring this case against

29:00

Donald Trump it's a repeat of what was

29:03

happening in January 6th up in the case

29:05

with judge chuckin who loathes Trump and

29:07

has sentenced almost every j6 defendant

29:09

to way more jail time than their

29:11

counterparts would get those are falling

29:13

apart because of presidential immunity

29:14

which was handed down by the Supreme

29:15

Court who said you cannot bring a

29:18

criminal case against a sitting

29:19

president for any official act those

29:21

cases have have been gutted also a

29:23

Supreme Court ruling saying the same on

29:25

January 6 defendants in general and that

29:27

leaves us with Florida and the documents

29:29

and Trump has torn that apart because

29:31

Jack Smith wasn't properly appointed and

29:32

isn't the right Council but there are

29:34

other issues they haven't even gotten to

29:36

presidential immunity there and so that

29:39

one's going nowhere as well and by the

29:41

way they're going to peel it up to the

29:42

11 circuit she just threw it out the 11

29:44

circuit is conservative and thank God so

29:45

is the current Supreme Court they're not

29:47

going to tolerate that nonsense let me

29:48

ask you about

29:53

um I think let me I think J Cal I think

29:57

J Cal just lost lost his right to ever

29:59

bring up lawfare

30:00

again no we're we're done with your

30:03

it's over I didn't give we're

30:06

not here to hear my opinion I didn't

30:08

give my opinion I wanted me let let's um

30:11

the Democratic party and the Republican

30:13

Party 2028 post all of this okay um I

30:19

suspect because of your influence I I so

30:21

tell me if this is not even true but

30:23

upand cominging folks are probably

30:24

trying to meet you all the time because

30:26

they want to build a relation ship build

30:28

a rapport so that when it's time for

30:29

them to get you know interviewed or

30:32

whatever there's a so you must see a lot

30:34

of people just give us a state of

30:37

politicians post this current

30:40

batch what is the same I don't feel very

30:43

optimistic okay is it getting worse yeah

30:46

it's getting worse because of Instagram

30:47

and AOC that kind of

30:49

person yes her specifically but not just

30:52

her um I say more

30:56

they they want these are congressional

31:04

Kardashians can I tell you something my

31:07

experience in the news business dealing

31:09

with politicians leads me to believe

31:10

that the people in this room and on this

31:12

stage over your two-day conference are

31:14

the people we need to be looking to for

31:15

our future leaders and ideas and to save

31:18

the country it it's not Washington DC

31:21

all the incentives to be a good person

31:23

are gone it's not that there aren't any

31:25

good ones there there definitely are and

31:27

there's some you know true Patriots who

31:29

are still trying to serve and even who

31:31

are who are two people just on on either

31:33

side that you would just tell us to look

31:35

out for or even they are already doing

31:37

the job where you say these two people

31:39

are like good

31:43

people you should play the little

31:45

Jeopardy music right

31:47

now um no one's coming to mind off the

31:49

top of my head but I know that there are

31:51

some uh look I like Rand

31:55

Paul I think Rand Paul is a good andon

31:58

man don't run a giant deficit it's not a

32:00

bad I mean all of them lie so I'm not

32:02

trying to excuse all of that they all do

32:05

but if you watch people long enough you

32:08

find the ones that stand up for the

32:09

right issues and seem to have some

32:12

integrity that's one that comes to mind

32:14

I there used to be a day where they

32:17

where they would reach across the aisle

32:19

and they actually weren't just there for

32:21

clicks or to make themselves famous or

32:23

and those days are few and far between

32:26

now I just think with look I supported

32:29

the Supreme Court's decision in citizen

32:30

United and I think big money in politics

32:32

was always going to happen but it's

32:34

corrupted the system in a way that you

32:36

know most politicians only have to

32:38

answer to their one group of big donors

32:40

or their one small constituency and

32:42

their one very red or very blue town and

32:44

there's no more incentive to compromise

32:46

there's only incentive to get reelected

32:48

which is one of the frustrations we have

32:49

when we watch Washington nothing gets

32:51

done or size of relief in this Congress

32:55

where we watch Washington and nothing

32:57

gets done right right now I'm all about

33:00

going back to the original founding

33:02

version of this country where government

33:03

was as small as possible the presidency

33:05

was as small as possible and these

33:07

people do as little as humanly possible

33:10

while they're in I feel Megan I feel

33:11

like someone should do like a modernday

33:14

recap of the Federalist Papers like an

33:18

understanding of the basis of the

33:20

foundation of the Republic like were

33:22

what were the founding philosophies and

33:24

and then understanding how far astray

33:26

we've we've gone but let me ask you a

33:28

question what constitutional amendments

33:30

would you pass to fix the incentive

33:32

problems if you could have your brothers

33:33

pass any Constitutional Amendment or two

33:36

what would they be to address the

33:38

incentive issue that's causing a lot of

33:41

the integrity and misalignment I don't

33:42

think it it starts like that I think it

33:44

it is just like KLA Harris's Choice as

33:47

Biden's uh replacement it's bottom up

33:50

it's bottom up that's the LIE remember

33:52

they told us Chuck Schumer it's bottom

33:53

up we chose the people chose her

33:55

literally nobody's voted for her to be

33:57

the nomin

33:58

um I think this one does have to be

34:00

bottom up like if we're going to change

34:02

the way we elect politicians and the way

34:04

we govern ourselves you know we're so

34:07

it's so much more complex than just what

34:10

what laws are written down and you Tech

34:12

has a lot to do with it how divided we

34:14

are how disconnected we are how lonely

34:16

we are I mean right now the latest

34:20

strain of the argument is interesting

34:21

which is all the processed foods are

34:23

making us weird and unhealthy and dying

34:26

and and dividing people further because

34:29

it's driving our hormones nuts and our

34:30

behavior is getting weirder and obese

34:33

yeah and obesity so I mean there's just

34:35

a lot we need to reconsider about the

34:38

way we're living and I do think one of

34:40

the main things is we need to see each

34:41

other again we need to like look each at

34:43

each other in the eye across from the

34:45

table we need to ban our kids from

34:47

playing on the devices when they get

34:49

together for playd dates we must insist

34:51

that they play outside without any

34:53

devices and actually connect with nature

34:55

we must make sure that they do the same

34:57

we must get out of the coastal cities

34:59

and go to fly over country and go to a

35:02

rodeo in Montana something like that you

35:04

know I we all we have to start loving

35:07

our country again that's a huge piece of

35:09

it and that again is community you know

35:11

speaking of rodeo and Montana we went we

35:13

go out there we have a little ski cabin

35:15

there which we love and uh we went in

35:17

the summer brought our kids to a

35:19

rodeo they started playing the national

35:21

anthem and my little guy at the time was

35:22

like five and he was a little slow to

35:24

get up right like he knows to get up but

35:26

he was five and there's this old cowboy

35:30

sitting right behind us with the big hat

35:32

and the jeans and the belt and he goes

35:34

boy you better get on your feet and my

35:38

son was like oh yes sir that was me

35:41

but I was like right on that's great

35:43

right on that's what we need right like

35:45

more of that and more of looking out for

35:47

one another not with forced taxes and

35:49

through the eyeballs and all that

35:50

nonsense but like your neighbor's sick

35:53

go make him a casserole your old older

35:55

neighbor is housebound go m lawn that is

35:59

the stuff that used to make us us and as

36:02

we just Retreat into our devices and our

36:05

television screens and all of it we lose

36:08

that and we lose us all right well said

36:11

ladies and gentlemen Megan

36:14

Kelly thank you w standing out that was

36:19

awesome really awesome

36:21

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Interactive Summary

In this wide-ranging interview, Megyn Kelly discusses her transition from mainstream media to becoming a successful independent broadcaster on platforms like YouTube. She reflects on the toxicity of traditional media, her commitment to independent, truthful reporting, and her vocal stance on cultural issues such as transgender rights and the impact of the current media environment. Furthermore, Kelly provides her analysis of the 2024 political landscape, the candidates involved, and the state of American politics, while advocating for a return to community values and genuine connection.

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