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75 to 90% of every person that goes to a

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show that when they analyze their life

within some disturbing emotion, we saw

that they were actually making the brain

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to excuse themselves from changing. You

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success. You can't wait for your new

relationship to feel love. But 95% of

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programmed. Yeah, but there is a way to

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95% of who we are by the age of 35 is

programmed.

When I read that in your work, kind of

hit me like a

ton of bricks because I just turned 30.

And if what you're saying there is true,

without realizing it, there's a puppet

master that sits above me that's calling

the shots in a way that I don't think

I've realized.

Is that true?

I think if we define a habit is a

redundant set of automatic unconscious

thoughts, behaviors, and emotions that's

acquired through repetition. A habit is

when you've done something so many times

that your body now knows how to do it

better than your conscious mind.

Then it's programmed subconsciously.

So, then when the body knows how to do

it better than the conscious mind, then

for the most part, the greatest habit we

have to break is the habit of being

ourselves, right? So, there's a

principle in neuroscience that says that

nerve cells that fire together wire

together.

If you keep thinking the same way, uh

if you keep making the same choices, if

you keep doing the same things, if you

keep reproducing the same experiences

and feeling the same emotions,

your biology begins to become hardwired

in a sense. It

it becomes programmed.

So, in order to change uh something, to

arrive at a new vision of your future,

if you were wanted to arrive at a new

goal or new vision of your future,

you'd have to change something about

yourself in order to get there.

And you'd have to change the way you

think, the way you act, and the way you

feel.

When you begin to become conscious

of those unconscious thoughts, so

conscious that you don't let them slip

by your awareness unnoticed or unchecked

by you.

If you catch yourself speaking in a

limited way or

um you're you become conscious that

you're behaving in a certain way, in a

habit,

and if you can notice or pay attention

to how you're feeling, then you're no

longer the program. Now your

consciousness observing the program.

You're only unconscious when you're in

the program and so to change then

is to become so conscious that you don't

don't go unconscious again. And in a

sense, that is consciousness that is

really the puppet master that really

decides who we want to be.

I think the biggest problem

uh is that people lose their free will

uh to a set of programs. And so their

body is basically um programmed into a

predictable future based on what they've

done in the past. So, to change then, to

change that habituation takes an

enormous amount of energy

and an enormous amount of awareness.

Why is this

operating system, this program,

useful? Cuz I look at everything that I

the way that I do and from doing this

podcast and speaking to experts, I've

stopped thinking that my body is against

me. And I've stopped realize I've

started to realize that there's a reason

for these things. There's a reason for

the habits and patterns and

So, why is this useful? Because it seems

to be working against me in so many

ways.

Well, um first of all,

um

when we

when we look closely at uh certain

habits, whether you um

can ride a bicycle,

whether you can speak a language,

whether you can snowboard, when you

first learn any of those things, it

takes an enormous amount of conscious

awareness to get your body to do what

your mind is intending.

But if you keep doing it over and over

again, then the body begins to economize

it in some way. And so, we have a lot of

things that we can do automatically

or unconsciously or subconsciously that

allows us to multitask, to drive your

car, to talk on the phone, to do several

different things at the same time. So, a

habit isn't a bad thing. They can work

for you or they can work against you.

The problem is is if you're

as an example, complaining

and blaming and making excuses and

feeling sorry for yourself and judging

other people and you practice that and

you get really good at whatever you

practice.

You practice that enough times that

you're unconscious to the fact that

you're doing it.

Um

the moment you become conscious that you

want to change that, uh you're going to

be uncomfortable.

Uh it's going to feel unfamiliar. It's

going to feel some degree of

uncertainty.

You're leaving kind of familiar known

territory and you're stepping into the

unknown. And so, uh many people when

they want to change a habit, um

they have to be willing to be

uncomfortable to do it. But habits can

work for us. There's a lot of great

habits that you and I both have that I

would never want to change

uh or would want to evolve in some way.

But then there's a lot of habits that

don't serve us and and so, a person

really wants to set a vision of the

future, whatever that is, and they just

have to agree that in order to arrive at

that vision, they have to change in

order to get there.

Someone said to me that there's a

certain type of behavior pattern that we

can't change. They said when we get

trauma under the age of 10, things that

happen at a very early age, some of

those things cannot be changed. And then

there's things that happen later in life

that can be rewired and changed.

Is that true? Are there some traumas,

behavior patterns that just appear to be

too stubborn and too resistant to

change?

If you ask me that question just a few

years ago, I probably would have a

different answer than I do today because

if you look at a lot of the work uh

that we're studying in terms of human

change and human transformation,

um

we've seen people with really difficult

pasts, really brutal pasts that

were abused and traumatized at a very

early age um and then

repeated traumas that took place in

people's lives

and they had night terrors and uh

they couldn't be in relationships. They

had social anxiety. Uh they had a lot of

health conditions.

We've seen them completely change. Uh

completely changed to be happy people

again, to

to free themselves from the past. And

so,

I would never put a limitation

on change because I just don't think uh

you can really predict that. I think

many people that are learning how to

change, uh they understand what they're

doing and why they're doing it.

And the how gets easier. I think

for the most part, people can change all

kinds of things. And when they do

change,

uh our research shows that their brain

changes, their heart rate changes, their

gene expression changes, there's

thousands of metabolites that are being

released into their

bloodstream that weren't there prior. Uh

there's a host of different changes that

take place biologically that kind of

support the person's transformation.

Is there a specific transformation

that sticks in your mind

as being the most as the clearest

evidence that you should never write off

um someone's ability to transform?

Wow. Um

I'm so pleased to tell you that uh my

beliefs have been challenged

uh just in the last 2 years in

witnessing

so many different changes in people's

health that I I never knew was even

possible.

Uh

you know, everything from

stage four cancers that were

in a very progressed state that

metastasized to

organs and tissues and bones in the

body, a complete reversal

in uh that

in that health condition. Not once, not

twice, not three times.

Uh we've seen it many times.

Uh we've seen people that were blind, uh

that have been deaf, that

that have ALS, that have lupus, that

have MS, that have Parkinson's disease,

that have spinal cord injuries, that

have strokes,

PTSD,

myasthenia gravis, cystic fibrosis,

muscular dystrophy.

Uh, we had a woman that had her thyroid

removed, surgically removed, and I know

this is difficult even for me to accept.

Uh, and grew a new thyroid back. You

know, we have the medical evidence for

that. So, I don't know any longer what

the limit is. I think there's something

really cool happening in the world when

uh, people believe in themselves.

And when you believe in yourself, you

have to believe in possibility.

When you believe in possibility, you

have to believe in yourself. So,

uh, when somebody

uh, has the opportunity, and I think a

story

is

uh, and there's no there's everybody

loves a story. There's nothing better

than a story, and

when someone stands on a stage in front

of 2,000 people

and talks about their

um, journey to heal themselves from a

chronic health condition,

and they it's not

um, always pretty. They lose things.

They lose family. They sometimes lose

their careers. They get sick before they

get better. And And you see this

person's persistence, and you see that

they were not doing the work, uh, their

inward work to heal. They were doing the

work to change.

And if they understood, if they truly

changed that their biology should

change, and they were

um, uncompromising every day in showing

up for themselves and staying conscious

of their unconscious self, and and then

reprogrammed themselves in some way.

When they tell that story, it's the

four-minute mile. It's somebody breaking

through a level of consciousness or

unconsciousness in the collective

that's observing

the example of truth.

They're actually relating with that

person

in a way that causes them to examine

possibility differently.

And when you become conscious of a new

possibility, a change in consciousness

is a change in awareness, right? So, now

it's in the collective, and lo and

behold, it's not uncommon. We just had

this happen

in our week-long event in Denver just a

little over a week ago, 2 weeks ago.

And we had six people stand up out of a

wheelchair at by the end of the event.

Now, I wasn't expecting that, but one

uh,

person that had MS in the middle of the

week had a very profound experience,

very profound experience.

And a professional athlete, NFL football

player, and um,

stood up, and he stood up for the

audience. And

when he stood up, he said, "I thought I

was going to a yoga retreat. I thought

my brother was taking me to a yoga

retreat. I had no idea what we were

doing here."

And then he said, "I just I just never

loved myself."

And it was his act of change that

somehow

changed his health condition. He somehow

up-regulated

genes in different ways, suppressed the

genes for MS, and somehow he was more

mobile, he was walking

by the end of the event, and he was the

magic number one. And when everybody saw

that, and they crowd the audience was

excited, we started seeing other people

have a similar experience. Now, that

possibility is becoming more of a

reality for people.

So, I would always I never limit what

could actually happen, but I can tell

you that what an amazing time right now

uh, to witness people really doing the

uncommon.

When you recited that story, I could see

the emotion in your face as you say it.

And I can only imagine with the

information that you have and the

beliefs you have about healing, change,

transformation,

the sense of urgency you must carry, and

the sense of like responsibility almost,

I guess you must carry.

Knowing knowing what's possible. Yeah,

well, um, um,

it I I do feel responsible for always

keeping the information based in science

and as pure as possible.

I feel it's really important to do the

research that we're doing. I mean, we've

we've studied so much from a scientific

standpoint the process of change and the

process of transformation and what

meditation actually

can do for a person in terms of their

biology and and some of the changes that

we're seeing just in 7 days. Um, my

responsibility really is to give people

my greatest understanding of the truth

and numerous opportunities to experience

it, nothing more. You know, there's a

way to inspire people into possibility.

And so, they we combine different models

of science, whether it's quantum physics

or neuroscience or neuroendocrinology or

psychoneuroimmunology, the mind-body

connection, epigenetics,

electromagnetism,

all of these sciences allow people to

understand themselves better. And if

knowledge is power, knowledge about

yourself is self-empowerment, and you

can empower people to do something with

it.

So, the more you understand what you're

doing in the process of change, the more

you understand why you're doing it, as I

said, the how gets easier.

So,

we now know that if you give people

sound scientific information, and that

is the contemporary language of

mysticism,

and they can learn that information,

they're basically making new circuits in

their brain. That's what learning is.

Learning is forging new synaptic

connections. But if you don't review

what you learn, if you don't repeat it,

it's so much easier to forget it than to

remember it. So, you got to repeat it

over and over again. So,

we allow people in our workshops to then

begin to turn and teach it back to

somebody. They have to really explain

it. If they can't explain it, it's not

wired in their brain, and they're going

to

something's going to be left to

conjecture, to superstition, to dogma,

to spirituality, and and that's not

that's not the result we want. We want

them to use science as that model, and

if they can explain that model and

remind themselves what they've learned,

reproduce the same level of mind, nerve

cells that fire together wire together.

So, they begin to install the

neurological hardware in their brain

by teaching others. Yeah, exactly. So,

that they are prepared for an

experience.

So then, if that information is

installed in their brain, that

philosophy, that theory,

uh, that knowledge and information, and

now they can remember it, and they have

that model of understanding,

and they understand what they're doing

and why they're doing it. If we can set

up the conditions in the environment and

give them the proper instruction,

if they can get their behaviors to match

their intentions,

they get their actions equal to their

thoughts. If they can get their mind and

body working together,

they're going to have a new experience.

Now, experience enriches circuitry in

the brain. That's what experiences does.

The moment those neurons begin to string

in the place, though, another part of

the brain makes a chemical, and that

chemical is called a feeling or an

emotion. And the moment you feel

unlimited, the moment you feel grateful,

the moment you feel empowered, the

moment you feel whole,

now you're teaching your body chemically

to understand what your mind has

intellectually understood. The

information is just not in the brain

now. The information now is literally in

the body. And now you're embodying the

truth

of that knowledge, of that philosophy,

of that theory.

So then, you're teaching your body and

and instructing your body chemically to

understand what your mind has

intellectually understood. Okay? So

then, that information that's coming as

a new experience is changing your

biology in some way, and we've actually

shown this.

So then, if you've done it once,

then it means you should be able to do

it again.

And the idea is to be able to repeat an

experience. And if you can repeat it

over and over again, both neurologically

and chemically, neurochemically, you can

condition your mind and body to begin to

work as one. And when you can do it so

many times that your body now knows how

to do it better than your conscious

mind, it's innate in you. So, I want to

map out this process so that I make sure

I understand it.

Starts with the neurology,

which I I I I heard is uh,

a thought which you then ingrain in your

mind by teaching it to someone else. Is

that accurate?

Well, first thing you have to do is you

got to give people information.

Yeah, interesting.

And science is probably the closest to

the truth in terms of information.

And so, when your brain is exposed to

information and you're present and

you're paying attention, that neurons

begin to connect. That's what learning

is. Learning is forging new synaptic

connections.

The Nobel Prize research, Kandel in the

year 2000, his the researcher said that

if you learned one bit of information

and you paid attention that information

for about an hour,

he would double the number of

connections in your brain as a result of

your interaction with that information.

But if you don't review it, if you don't

repeat it, if you don't think about it,

the circuits prune apart, right? So, if

learning is making new synaptic

connections, then remembering is

maintaining and sustaining them. So,

it's so much easier to forget this

information than to remember it. So, you

learn it. Once I got a person's head

nodding, then they turn the person next

to them and say, "Let me try this out.

Let me try this out. Let me see if I can

repeat it." And so, between the two of

them, they exchange that information,

and they start to build the model of

understanding. "Ah, I understand. I got

that. Okay." Then we advance the

information a bit more, and they they're

adding new stitches into the

three-dimensional tapestry of their gray

matter, and they have to remind

themselves what they've learned,

reproduce that same level of mind. Mind

is the brain in action.

As you install those neurological

circuits in your brain then, now you're

prepared.

It's the forerunner to the experience.

You're prepared for the experience. So,

give the proper instruction, get your

body involved, get involved in the

process.

The experience then causes the circuits

to become more enriched. That's what

experience does.

And then it makes a chemical, and that

chemical's called a feeling or an

emotion. And the stronger the emotion

you feel from the experience, the more

you remember it. And what is that

experience?

What can

Abundance, health, wholeness, a mystical

experience, success, a new relationship,

a new career.

Um

a new life.

Whatever the person's Whatever Whatever

that vision

that person wants to arrive at in the

future.

And to actually go from the thought of

that vision to the actual experience of

it. And the distance between that

thought and that experience is called

time.

So, if we can teach people to shorten

the distance between the thought of what

they want and the experience of having

it,

um then they they start believing more

that they're the creator of their life.

What would you say to somebody that

doesn't think thoughts matter that much?

I would say 95%

of the world plus, or maybe more, 99% of

the world plus, sees thoughts as

something that we are

you know, it's my head talking.

It's me talking in my head.

And as long as I don't act on those

thoughts, they're inconsequential.

I would I would say then that's their

truth.

Is it their truth? I don't know.

But for me, my thoughts do matter. I

think every thought that you have makes

a chemical.

And you can have thoughts that make you

feel good and thoughts that make you

feel bad.

And and I think that if 90%

of the thoughts that we think are the

same thoughts as the day before,

the same thoughts lead to the same

choices. The same choices lead to the

same behaviors, the same behaviors will

create the same experiences.

And the same experiences produce the

very same emotions, and those same

emotions influence a person's very same

thoughts and their biology, their

neuro-circuitry, their neurochemistry,

their hormones, and even their gene

expression stays the same because

they're staying the same. There's

nothing wrong with that.

But I do think that if you think

differently and you learn new

information and you have new thoughts,

if you can make new choices and

demonstrate new behaviors and create new

experiences and arrive at new goals and

feel new emotions, I would say that's

evolution.

And I think that people really really

secretly believe in themselves on some

level. And and I think

being defined by a vision of the future

or really always always dreaming of

another great experience,

I think is a great reason to wake up in

the morning.

I've had lots of conversations with very

smart people on this podcast from

multiple disciplines, you know,

psychiatrists, psychologists, athletes,

health practitioners. And they've given

me such great advice on, which is

irrefutable scientific advice from so

many areas of my life. And for some

reason, there's still areas of my life

that I still can't act upon that advice.

And I think probably for most of my

listeners who've had great advice on

this podcast, and they think, yes,

that's who I want to be. I have an

intention to stop eating sugar at 1:00

1:00 a.m. at night, or I have an

intention to become organized or to be

this kind of friend or partner.

They have the information.

Right.

What There's something stood in the way

of me doing something about that

information on a regular basis. Yeah.

Well, I can give you a few answers for

that. Unfortunately,

it normally takes a crisis, Yeah.

trauma, disease, diagnosis, betrayal,

loss. A person has to reach that lowest

denominator

where nothing's making that feeling go

away. Has to. Well, not they don't have

to, but this is human This is the human

condition. This is the moment where they

don't feel like returning the texts.

They don't feel like going to dinner and

seeing the same people. They don't feel

like um

watching the same television show any

longer. The sports car, the wardrobe,

the None of that is making this feeling

go away. This is

a moment of reckoning for the soul.

And this is really when you could

actually see yourself

through the eyes of someone else cuz you

don't feel like yourself anymore. And

that's the moment where people begin to

change. They can see how they've been

thinking. They can notice how they've

been acting. They can pay attention or

become aware of how they've been feeling

for the last 20 years.

And that that idea in in neuroscience is

called metacognition. That's the moment

you're no longer the program. Now,

what we believe and what we've seen and

what I think is much better approach is

um being defined by a vision of the

future. And if you understood

that you could actually elevate your

state without anyone or anything every

single day,

and hold whatever that intention of your

future is. And it takes a coherent brain

to do that.

And feel the emotion of your future

before it happens.

That is, you know, you can't wait for

your wealth to feel success. You can't

or abundance. You can't wait for your

new relationship to feel love. You can't

wait for the mystical experience to feel

whole or your healing to feel whole or

grateful. That's kind of

the old model of reality of cause and

effect, waiting for something out there

to change, to take away this emptiness,

this lack that I feel in here.

If you teach people then they could

elevate their state, and we teach that

model through meditation.

And they can combine that clear

intention with an elevated emotion and

teach them how to make that heart of

theirs more coherent.

If they do that properly then, they'll

live their life feeling like

their future has already happened. Now,

from that elevated state, instead of

that self-limited state, they can become

as conscious

of that unconscious self as they could

if they were at that limited state. And

and being defined by that vision of the

future,

getting up every day inspired by it, and

not letting any person, any

circumstance, anything in our life

remove us from that vision, that would

be a day well lived. So then,

most people then they have that vision

of the future,

but they give up on that vision because

in order for them to arrive at that

vision, they have to do something. They

have to think differently. They have to

act differently. They have to feel

differently.

And it's so much easier to make the same

choice every single day. And the hardest

part

about change is not making the same

choice as you did the day before.

And the moment you decide to make a

different choice,

you're going to feel uncomfortable cuz

you're stepping from the known into the

unknown.

So, some people would rather cling to

their self-pity

than take a chance and possibility.

They'd rather tell the story of their

past

instead of telling the story of their

future. They'd rather believe in their

past instead of believe in their future.

Uh it's so much more important though to

romance your future instead of romance

your past. And I think if people

understood that they could actually

arrive at it.

I think many people have done this

already in their life. I think everybody

at least once in their life has done

something great. And when they

did something great, they just made up

their mind.

And they made a decision in that moment

to do something or to change with such

firm intention

that the amplitude of energy in making

that choice

caused their body to respond to their

mind.

That the choice that they were making to

change became a moment in time that they

would never forget.

And the stronger the emotion they felt

in order to change, the more they

remembered the choice.

And we could say then that they're

giving their body a taste

of the future emotionally. And they're

literally aligning to that destiny.

We discovered that if you keep doing

that every day,

somehow you arrive at that destiny, and

your biology will literally begin to

change to look like you're living in a

different life.

What are some of the biggest myths

relating to

behavior change and

I guess character and personality

change, um

that hold people back?

Our probably belief.

I think in so many ways that a belief is

a

unconscious process. A belief is a

thought you keep thinking over and over

again

until it's hardwired in your brain.

And most beliefs are based on past

experiences.

And so, many people have a belief about

something that has to change

in order for them to arrive at a new

place in their life.

And what we discovered a lot of times

with people in this work is that

they they

when they Say for example, they were

healing themselves of a health

condition.

Sometimes they would

do their meditations three times in one

day. And I asked them, "Why three

times?" And they said, "Because I

stopped believing.

Uh and when I caught myself no longer

believing in it, I had to sit down and

change my belief again."

In other words, they had to get up

believing more in their future instead

of believing less in it. And they have

to change their state of being to do

that.

So, I think that

that's a limitation. I also think that

unconsciously we're always waiting for

something out there in our life to

change so that we can change or feel the

relief of the lack of what we don't

have.

And I do think that's kind of a limited

model of reality. I think when you start

changing inside of you and you start

seeing the changes happening outside of

you, you go from being a victim in your

life to being a creator of your life.

And And I think that when that occurs,

then all of a sudden it's no longer a

have to.

It's something that you want to do. You

don't You actually don't want the magic

to end in your life. So now you become a

work in progress by investing in

yourself.

And when you invest in yourself, you

invest in your future. So there is

probably a chronic disbelief

that many of us have that we're not

creators of our life. Uh And the only

when we get the parking space or

something good happens to us, do we

believe that we're the creator of our

life? But imagine a world where

everybody actually took responsibility

in being the creator of their life and

no longer the victim of their life. I

think we would see a dramatic shift in

consciousness. That makes people feel

uncomfortable. This idea of personal

responsibility. It's quite a It's almost

become quite a controversial

controversial idea.

The idea that we are the creator of our

lives because then I have to accept

responsibility for all the bad things

that happened. Dave dumped me. I got

fired from work.

Uh someone bumped into my car and it

hurt my neck.

Well, maybe maybe that happened by

default.

Maybe that happened by not creating.

Maybe you were just left to the

randomness

of reality that

that maybe you're not creating.

And the fact that you're not creating,

you're you're left to the effects of

your environment actually controlling

you, controlling your feelings and

thoughts. And By creating, what do you

mean by creating? Is it Well, well, if

you

If you woke up every morning and you

truly made time to think like this,

okay.

If my personality creates my personal

reality,

and my personality is made of how I

think,

how I act, and how I feel.

If I want to create a new personal

reality, a new life,

I'm going to have to change my

personality. And most people try to

create a new reality, a new personal

reality, as the same personality, and it

doesn't work. We literally have to

become someone else. So if you said,

okay,

let me not default

and go unconscious to that 95% of who I

am that's programmed. Let me become so

conscious of the way I think. Let me

become so aware of how I'm going to act

today. Let me decide what emotions keep

me connected to my past and bring me to

a lower level of lower level of energy.

Let me not

go unconscious.

And then if you said, okay,

if a belief is just a thought I keep

thinking over and over again, what

thoughts do I want to fire and wire in

my brain? And with attention and with

intention

to begin to familiarize yourself with a

new way of thinking. Meditation means to

become familiar with.

If you keep firing and wiring those

circuits, you're going to begin to

install the hardware. Repeat it enough

times and it becomes a software program.

That could be the new voice in your head

that says, "I can. It is possible."

If you said, okay,

when did I fall from grace yesterday?

When did I When did I lose it? Oh my

gosh, it was with at work, with my

co-workers, with my ex, with my enemy,

with the news, with traffic.

Acting this way is not going to make me

happy.

If I had another opportunity, another

opportunity, how would I do it?

If you could close your eyes and

rehearse in your mind mentally how you

were going to behave in certain

situations,

I'll give you a specific one.

Anyone. So I'll give you the specific

one where

late late at night, on occasion, I've

eaten things that I really regret

eating. Al- Also, another one that I'm

I'm trying to work hard on is I can be

very messy

with when I travel. So my my hotel room

can look like a mess, and I don't like

that about myself. And I don't know why

I do it, but it's almost like you talk

about being unconscious. I'm clearly not

thinking about it. But that's part of

the problem. And it's the same with the

bloody sugar at midnight.

Eating ordering things that are

and then feeling instant guilt 10

seconds after I've put it in my mouth.

Well, that Well,

it may be that on some level

Well, you could actually be addicted to

the guilt and not to the sugar.

And so you you return to the same

emotional state

that allows that action to reoccur. So

if you said, let me decide

how I am going to act, what I'm not

going to do, and you rehearsed it, the

research on mental rehearsal says your

brain will look like you already did it.

That you'll be so present, the brain

won't know the difference between what

you're imagining and what is real. The

brain will begin to change to look like

the experience has already happened.

Now, you're priming your brain for that

behavior. Keep rehearsing it. Rehearsing

it how? So give me Well,

So I play

Mentally Mentally rehearsing Mental

rehearsal is one of these great ideas in

neuroscience where you can actually

install circuits in your brain, right?

So everybody has done this.

Musicians do it. They're playing a song

in their mind all the time. Athletes do

it. They're always going over their

moves. Uh dancers do it. Actors do it.

Uh so many people rehearse mentally what

they're about to do. And when they do

that, they actually prime their brain.

They actually can change their brain

and change their body just by thought

alone.

Physiologically changes.

Physiologically change. You can take a

group of people

that never played the piano before

and divide them into two different

groups and do functional brain scans on

both groups. One group,

they'll come for 2 hours a day for 5

days and they'll practice these

one-handed scales and chords. Now, you

learn something new, you make new

connections in your brain. You get some

instruction, you get your body involved.

When you get your body involved, you're

going to have an experience. You pay

attention to what you're doing and you

repeat it over and over again. Nerve

cells that fire together wire together.

You're going to begin to install new

circuits in the opposite side of your

brain. That's That's common.

You do the scan at the end, you see

those actual physical changes. You take

those people the other group and you ask

them to close their eyes without lifting

a finger.

Have them mentally rehearse those scales

and chords, and at the end of 5 days,

they grow the same amount of circuits in

their brain as the people who actually

physically demonstrated the act. In

other words, they were so present with

what they were doing, the brain did not

know the difference between the real

life experience and what they were

imagining. The brain was physically

changing to look like they already

experienced it. They already did it.

So now, you take those people

never played the piano before, they've

just been mentally rehearsing for 2

hours a day for 5 days. You set them in

front of a piano, and they could

actually play those scales and chords.

Why? Cuz they primed their brain for

that behavior.

So then if you're going to prime your

brain for a new behavior, whether you're

the CEO of a company,

whether you're a parent,

uh whether you're learning something,

the more you rehearse it mentally, the

more you prime your brain and body for

the act. So you could actually practice

rehearsing how you're going to change in

your life. And if you keep doing it

enough times, your behaviors will match

your intentions automatically because

you have the mind installed to do it. If

you don't have the mind installed to do

it, you'll go back to the same past

behavior. So I play through that

scenario of making the decision

differently. Exactly. And rehearse it in

your mind until it feels right. Do you

feel like I could actually do that? And

go from start to finish without losing

your attention.

And so that it gets easier each time you

do it. It makes sense then you're you'll

you'll actually do it. And then then if

you said, okay,

enough of this guilt.

I've I've felt enough of it. I don't

like feeling that way. I could actually

break the conditioning of that emotion

in my body. Can I

condition my body? Can I teach my body

to feel something differently? What

would be the feeling that I want to feel

if I was able to do it? Would it be

worth? Would it be self-love? Would it

be freedom? Would it be joy? Let me

teach my body emotionally

what a future could actually feel like

before it happens.

If you keep doing it over and over

again, you're going to start making more

of those chemicals, and it's become

easier for you to do it. It's going to

become familiar to you. And that's

exactly what meditation is, to become

familiar with an old self, to know

thyself. Become so conscious of that

unconscious self that you don't go

unconscious to that self. And how many

times do we have to forget

until we stop forgetting and start

remembering? That's the moment of

change.

What thoughts do I want to fire and wire

in my brain? Let me become familiar with

those. What behaviors do I want to

demonstrate? What would greatness do?

What would love do?

And actually rehearse a greater a

greater way. Rehearse it enough times so

that you could actually step into that

footprint. Teach your body emotionally

that there's another way to feel and do

it over and over again. It'll become

familiar to you. And so the model of

change is unlearning and relearning.

It's breaking the habit of the old self

and reinventing a new self. It's pruning

synaptic connections and sprouting new

connections. It's unfiring and unwiring,

refiring and rewiring, deprogramming and

reprogramming, losing your mind and

creating a new one, unmemorizing

emotions that have been stored in the

body and then reconditioning the body to

a new mind, to a new emotion. Turns out

if you teach people how to do that,

in 7 days you can see very profound

biological changes if they immerse

themselves into the experience. And what

do these biological changes look like?

Well, um so we run week-long events um

around the world. And I think it's so

important to do events uh in person with

community.

Uh because it's a flock. It's a herd.

It's a school. Um

it's a collective.

And so uh that exact process in 7 days,

uh we take people through a very

immersive experience. And we do

functional brain scans or fMRIs or

quantitative EEGs before they start the

event and then we at the end of 7 days

we look at their brains

at the end of 7 days and there are

dramatic changes

in the way their brain works, very

significant changes.

Some of them are really outstanding

changes.

We

put teach people how to create more

heart coherence. When you feel anger,

when you feel frustration, when you feel

impatience, when you feel resentment,

your heart beats out of order. When you

feel gratitude, when you have kindness

and care,

when you feel love for life, your heart

beats in more orderly fashion. You can

actually train somebody to get good at

feeling that way and we we use that and

we see people at the end of 7 days be

able to regulate their heart much better

and it's a function of really how soon

or how slow we age.

We take a blood and we measure 2,882

different metabolites in in a person's

blood.

And at the end of 7 days we measure

again and

I can tell you that if you're a novice

meditator,

really never meditated before, kind of

your first event,

and you go through that 7-day process,

at the end of 7 days, there's so many

biological changes that are taking place

in the

collective, in the community, not just

one, not just to the majority of people

and I mean a significant majority of

people

suggesting that their body literally is

living in a new environment and in a new

life. And there are chemicals

in their bloodstream in terms of

information

that wasn't there prior to the event. In

other words,

some way without taking any drug,

without any taking any exogenous

substance,

um,

without changing their diet, without

changing their lifestyle in any other

way except going through this process,

eating the same foods that they

typically eat,

that at the end of 7 days there's

chemistry, there's biology that suggests

that somehow their biology is changing

significantly.

Um, we measure gene expression.

Uh, I can tell you that you can change

your gene expression in 7 days.

Um, we measure microbiome and um, once

again, 7 days there are dramatic changes

in the microbiome uh, and the mind

somehow is making significant and and

effective changes in our in our body.

So, um, our research is pretty

outstanding because

um,

a 7-day

uh, intervention uh,

that's producing these effects. Uh,

there's there's not a whole lot of drugs

that that are as effective.

And we've discovered that

the nervous system makes a pharmacy of

chemicals right now that works better

than any drug. That's what we've

discovered and it's all within you.

I am a fixer

in my friendship groups. And what I mean

by that is I'm someone who probably

over-involves them themselves in trying

to help friends change stuff. Which

gift and a curse.

Often times a curse.

But um, I often get because I love

someone and they're close to me and I

want the best for them,

when when I see that they are

experiencing a recurring pattern of

behavior or habit um, that is causing

them unhappiness, loneliness, to miss

the goals they have in their life of

becoming a, you know, a husband or a

wife or a partner, whatever it might be,

I have a growing sense of um,

frustration.

Cuz and I and then that sometimes exerts

it it's

that sometimes manifests itself as

trying to, you know, fix and help and

give advice and change them. You must

experience

that in a different way. You're much

smarter than me. You must experience

that in a different way when you meet

people that you can see are having these

recurring patterns of behavior.

And when you see that in them,

has there any has there any ever been

frustration on your part? Have you ever

been frustrated that change hasn't

happened in someone that you loved? God,

you know, I think it's I think it's such

a noble act to change and I and I

understand how hard it is to change.

Uh, I understand that process. So,

I think the greatest thing that I could

ever do for someone is to show them what

change looks like. It's so much more

profound than anything that I could ever

say.

Um,

and I would never offer my opinion to

them. I would love them unconditionally

because I would maybe see a part of

myself

uh, that I've changed and I understand

how hard it is to change or or I

understand that they'll they're going to

have their moment uh, when they're ready

to change. And so I think it's I think

it's really interesting because what

I've learned over the years is that no

new information

can enter the nervous system that's not

equal to the person's emotional state.

You can give them

the answer, the right answer to the

problem and they won't hear it cuz it's

not relevant equal to the emotion that

they're experiencing.

What we've learned is that

you take people and just say 7 days,

just cross the river of change. Go from

the old self to the new self, immerse

yourself fully into it,

break free from the chains of those

emotions that keep you anchored to the

past, overcome those habits and

behaviors that keep you programmed into

a predictable future,

um, overcome um,

all those aspects of your beliefs that

keep you stuck in a certain state in

terms of how you're thinking and those

hardwired perceptions.

7 days, break free and and normally the

person has the answer

uh, to their own question. I think

that's when it becomes really relevant,

when you have your own insight, your own

epiphany, when it's your own truth cuz

you've you've worked to get beyond it.

People when they analyze themselves or

analyze their life within some

disturbing emotion, when we looked at

the real-time brain scans, we saw that

they were actually making their brain

worse.

They were driving their brain further

out of balance, overthinking,

over-analyzing.

Uh, and so,

when you analyze something within an

emotion, an emotion is a is a record of

the past. So, you're thinking in the

past, the solution could never be there.

Free the person from that emotion and of

course they they see they they see it

from a greater level of consciousness.

For all those people listening right now

that are like me that try and fix

because of through I mean through what

they think of as love, I may maybe be

doing it for other reasons, but

what what could they do to be a better

ally or friend or partner to that

individual? But based on everything

you've said that maybe they need their

own moment or, you know,

their emotional system isn't in

regulation with their information.

God, anytime we we're going to do

anybody a great service is to help them

out of their emotional state. I mean,

it's not a lecture that's going to help

them. Come on, let's go do something.

Come on, let's go. Just get them doing

something, just breaking themselves out

of that state. It's not like the answer,

it's they you they have to change their

state to get the answer. So,

if I were to do anything,

I would want to help them shorten their

emotional reaction to get them get

beyond the emotion. Whatever that is and

I wouldn't be a lecture, it would be

something fun that we did or something

unusual that we did or just trying

something. Just let's just do something.

And I think I think showing people what

what what love looks like, show them

what joy looks like, show them what

happiness looks like. I think I think

people notice that. I think I think they

pay attention to that. It gives them

permission

uh, to do the same.

So,

um,

maybe just show up as um,

the person you would want to be around

if you were feeling that way.

When you look at the state of the world

at the moment and the direction of

travel, the trajectory of,

you know, technology and the way we're

living our lives and the decisions we're

making at a collective level,

what are the things that most concern

you?

What I always ask myself is it getting

better or is it getting worse, you know?

And I I think um,

in my lifetime I don't think I've ever

experienced the world

as it is today, just with so many

variations of so many things.

Uh,

and I question the information that I'm

receiving.

Uh, and I think that we need some type

of intervention as a species. We need we

we need a change.

We need an intervention in some way.

You question the information you're

receiving from where and what kind of

interven- intervention are you

suggesting? I just don't know that the

information that I that I am exposed to

or information that people are exposed

to is the truth. Uh, I just question

that these days. And and there because

you can you can get so many you can get

so many degrees of it and so many

and I and I don't know if it's

uh, based in altruism, you know, for the

for the goodness of human beings or or

for self-interests and I and I think

that's a I think people are waking up

more to the understanding that something

has to change, you know, for us to

really survive as a species.

And what are the symptoms of

the cultural disease that you're talking

about? What are they?

A lack of connection.

Uh, you know,

you know, we're in 3D reality, you know,

connecting, communing, cooperating, uh,

uh,

uh, creating. I think those are things

that um,

I think if you keep people in survival

and you keep them in fear and you keep

them at war and you keep them angry and

you keep them in pain and you keep them

confused and you can control their

attention um,

by controlling their emotions.

Um

I think I think

we're going to you know

we may not make it you know as as a

species.

But I think that when people truly come

together in in in an elevated state, I

think it's collective networks of

observers that determine reality.

And I don't think it's the number of

people. I think it's the most coherent

in heart and brain that begin to produce

effects.

So the coming of

a new consciousness has to be a

collective. It's not one person.

It's a collective group of people and

and I believe that you get enough people

collectively coming together that we can

hopefully uh

uh steer it in a different direction.

Hopefully. Yeah.

How about you?

Are you optimistic?

I am. I'm optimistic because I think

people by nature

are good.

I think there's goodness in human beings

and

I have the privilege of traveling around

the world and I see that and it

transcends countries and cultures and

races and gender. It transcends diet. It

transcends all that stuff.

Uh it's just when people are happy with

themselves and in love with life. Um I

think I think their natural tendency is

to give and I think we're wired to do

that when we're not in survival.

When we're not in survival. When you use

this word survival

are you talking about the the fight or

flight state that we um

many of us live in? Yeah. I would say I

would say that living in stress is

living in survival and stress is when

your brain and body are knocked out of

homeostasis.

Stress is when your brain and body are

knocked out of balance. The stress

response is what the body innately does

to return itself back to balance.

The problem is is that if you keep

turning on that fight or flight system,

you keep turning on that emergency

system

um it will actually cause people to stay

out of balance and that imbalance

becomes the new balance.

And they're headed for some type of

disease, some type of breakdown. No

organism can tolerate emergency mode for

an extended period of time and when

you're in survival and that primitive

system is switched on

it's really about the self.

Uh when you're in survival, you have to

take care of yourself. So

um the emotions of anger and hostility

and aggression and competition and

frustration and resentment

and envy and jealousy and insecurity and

fear and anxiety and hopelessness and

powerlessness and depression and pain

and suffering guilt and shame are all

derived

from the hormones of stress and

psychology calls them normal human

states of consciousness. Those are

altered states of consciousness. And

when we're in that state, when we're

living in survival

we experience separation. We we divide

in in in a lot of ways.

And so there's biology that goes along

with that and

that the hormones of stress heighten the

senses and cause us to become

materialists and and now when we're in

lack or separation, we force outcomes.

We control outcomes. We fight for

outcomes. We compete for outcomes. We

manipulate outcomes. In a lot of ways we

we turn into a more of a primitive self.

So

it's hard

um

to change that especially when you don't

have enough money

or you just lost your job or you just

ended a relationship or

your best friend passed, uh it's really

hard um to move beyond those emotional

states.

Um and so I think that that teaching

people um

how to change those emotional states and

move out of those are really important

and and

um

75 to 90% of every person that goes to a

healthcare facility in the western world

goes in because of psychological or

emotional stress. That's eight or nine

out of 10.

And and emotional stress and

psychological stress are the ones that

tend to be the most harmful.

Because if it's not T-Rex that's chasing

you, but it's your coworker in the next

cubicle, what was once very adaptive

becomes very maladaptive.

And and the rush of those adrenal

hormones

become kind of addictive to people.

And they use the problems, they use the

conditions in their life to reaffirm

their addiction to that emotion. They

need their enemy to feel hatred. And and

if their enemy died, they'd they'd still

feel hatred or they'd find another one.

Uh they need the bad relationship. They

need the bad job in order to feel and

that's why it's hard to change and

people become addicted to the life they

don't even like.

And so if you can turn on the stress

response just by thought alone, by

thinking about your problems, then

that's the truth

you can become addicted to your own

thoughts.

And if the long-term effects of the

hormones of stress push the genetic

buttons that create disease your

thoughts can make you sick.

And then the question is if your

thoughts can make you sick, can your

thoughts make you well? And we're

actually discovering that that's

absolutely possible.

So then

teaching people then a little bit about

how to manage their emotional state and

to self-regulate I think is a great gift

for people because when they begin to

break an addiction to any emotion or the

conditioning of any emotion, there's

going to be cravings that go on just

like just like any addict there, you

know, and and you've many people

overdose and many people have bad trips

and

and so when they start changing and the

body's craving uh those familiar

emotions, the body starts signaling the

brain, you know, of memories or to think

certain ways and to make certain

choices, do certain things, crave

certain experiences just to feel that

same emotion. And people say, well

this feels right.

No, that feels familiar. That really

feels familiar. And and many people will

tell the story

of why they feel that way based on some

past experience and it's usually not in

the recent past. It's usually many years

ago. Like a toxic relationship Whatever

that is. And so

they're basically saying I had an event

in my life and since that event I'm

still living by the same emotion and I

haven't been able to change.

And they'll tell the story of that past

and in psychology, the latest research

on memory shows that 50% of that story

isn't even the truth.

They're they're they're making it up

because they don't have the same brain

as they had then. And so then people

people are reliving a miserable life

they never even had just to excuse

themselves from changing.

And they embellish the stories so that

it sounds really hard to change.

So what is it what is that point then

for a person when they say

the only person

that this emotion of hatred or anger

frustration or resentment, the only

person that this is hurting is me.

Because those those chemicals are down

regulating genes and creating disease

and a person finally really realizes

that and they really decide to change.

When they overcome the emotion

the memory without the emotion is called

wisdom and that's the name of the game

in three-dimensional reality. Now

they're ready for a new experience.

It's not it's not reliving the past. You

don't need to. You don't need to talk

about it. All you need to do is overcome

the emotion. When you overcome the

emotion, you're free from the past.

You can see it from a greater level of

consciousness and that's when a person

so many times in when they truly change,

they'll say this. We've seen it over and

over again.

They reach that point where they finally

break through and they and some of them

have had some really difficult past.

They'll say, I would not want to change

one thing in my past because it brought

me to this moment. That's the moment the

past no longer exists. And they can look

at their betrayers

and see it with all had to happen for

that moment and now they're they're

free. They they no longer belong to the

past. They belong to the future.

I've never heard the concept or idea of

being addicted to a negative emotion.

People talk to me about being addicted

to dopamine and pleasure and

sh you know, and all those things and

you know, like masturbation and

sugar and but the thought of being

addicted to a negative emotion is what

you said to me earlier about the guilt.

Well, well, think about this.

What do people do when they when they

feel an emotion?

What do they do? They rely on something

outside of them

to make that emotion go away. So whether

it's

the masturbation or the pornography or

the gambling or the shopping or the

sugar or the whatever, it's all because

they're trying to make that feeling go

away and they're using something outside

of them. So then

there is some emotion that the person is

regulating. That's why they're doing

that. They're doing that, right? So

so change the emotional state and it

makes sense then the need to do it

diminishes.

Which is not

doesn't seem to be very easy to do.

Change my emotional state. Well, again,

I think um

if you if you understood

what you were doing and why you were

doing it, just like learning anything,

if you if you understood a formula

I think it wouldn't be as hard as you

think it is.

I mean because there is a way to change.

And step one in that process of change

is new information. Always.

It's the forerunner to any experience.

Without the information, we doubt

that it's possible.

And again, that the information and the

science removes the doubt.

I've I was doing some research recently

about um why people change their beliefs

and why they don't change their beliefs

and some beliefs they're more

susceptible to take on some information

they're more they're susceptible to take

on. One of the things I read about was

when they believe the source. Yeah.

Another thing I read about was when they

when it's good news. So, if in studies

where they say to someone you're more

attractive according to the public than

you believed, they're likely to shift

rather than finding out they're less

attractive. And also things like health,

you're more healthy than you thought you

were genetically, they're more likely to

shift a belief. The nature of our

beliefs and the nature of belief change,

um

I I was writing in in in my book about

how um

looking in the mirror and telling

yourself something, like some of the

sort of modern-day manifestation

community belief, doesn't seem to work.

Just looking in the mirror and telling

myself that I'm beautiful and rich and

successful and powerful doesn't seem to

be an effective way to cause actual

belief change.

Do you agree or disagree with this idea

that you can look in the mirror and say

something to yourself?

When when we study belief and the change

in belief,

uh I want I'll answer it on two levels,

Stephen. The first level is that in

order for a person to change a belief or

perception about themselves and their

life,

majority of those people made a decision

with such firm intention that the

amplitude of that decision carried a

level of energy that was greater than

the hardwired programs in their brain

and the emotional conditioning their

body. As I said earlier, their body

literally responded to their mind. The

choice that they were making

became a moment in time they would never

forget. They'll tell you where they

were, what time of day it was, who they

were with when they made up their mind

to change. It became a long-term memory.

And the stronger the emotion we feel,

the more altered we are inside of us,

the more we remember that choice.

That's why we need pain sometimes.

That's when you said when you painted

yourself into a corner and you said,

"This is it.

I don't care how I feel, body.

I don't care how long it takes, time. I

don't care what people think. I don't

care what's going on in my life,

environment. I'm going to do this." And

you made up your mind the moment you

felt that emotion, you were aligning to

a new future and to change

is to be greater than your body, to be

greater than your environment, and to be

greater than time.

And so,

when a person comes out of their resting

state,

because your body is trillions of cells,

70 trillion cells, and they're all

spying on your brain.

And if you were sitting there and and

you said, "Nine out of 10 times, I'm

going to fake standing up. One time, I'm

actually going to stand up." Before you

ever made that conscious decision, your

body is so precognitive, it already

knows when you're going to stand up cuz

it's got to release a certain amount of

adrenaline so the same volume of your

blood goes to your brain.

So, if you're sitting on the couch with

the remote control and you got your cell

phone here and your iPad here and your

computer here and your dog here and your

beer here and the big TV there

and you're eating your popcorn and and

you say, "You know, I I think um

I'm going to change tomorrow."

You What do you think your precognitive

body's going to say? Relax, he's lying

again. He's not He's not willing to He's

not willing to signal the body it's time

to ride, you know, it's not There's no

signal to the body.

And so, making that choice to change

your state of being with a clear

intention and elevated emotion actually

changes your state to believe in that

future more than you believe in your

past. Keep it up. Keep doing it. That's

a big explosion in the field. That's

important. That's a change in energy.

And nobody changes until they change

their energy. And when they change their

energy, they change their life. So, then

you make up your mind to do that and all

of a sudden, you have that

synchronicity. You have that

serendipity. You have that coincidence.

And all of a sudden, you're saying,

"Hey, that worked. Something I did

inside of me produced an effect outside

of me. I'm going to pay attention to

what I did. I'm going to do it again.

I'll try it again. Let's the experiment

continue." You do it again and then you

say, "Well, when did I stop

disbelieving? Oh my god, I was stopped

disbelieving when I ran into that

person. We had that conversation and I'm

like, "God,

I returned back to my old belief again.

Okay. Next time that happens, that I'm

going to This is what I'll do." And you

rehearse it in. So, your evolution

in your belief in self it changes as

well. So, then

so many people, second point, will

actually say this, "You know, I read the

philosophy. I understand the knowledge.

I understand what it means to change. I

understand the power of meditation. I

saw the testimonials. I saw people heal.

I believe it's the truth.

I just didn't believe it could work for

me. This is a big moment. This is a

moment where you step out of the

bleachers and you got to get on the

playing field.

That's the person who says, "If this

works and I believe it it works, I got

to prove it to myself. I got to actually

I got to actually prove it to myself

that I believe that it could work for

me."

And some of them show up every day for a

year and never miss their work. Never

miss their meditation. A whole year in

changing from the old self to the new

self. They were doing their meditations

to change, not to heal.

They were doing their meditations to

change and when they changed, they

healed. They did their meditations

sometimes three times a day because they

stopped believing. They start

disbelieving and they were like, "I

defaulted. Why? Cuz I'm feeling the

emotion of my past. Some stray thought,

some response to someone or something

caused me to feel it and I forgot. I'm

back to the emotion that's familiar and

I can't believe in that future. I'm

believing in my past. Let me sit down

and change my state of being again and

get up believing in my future again."

And sometimes they had to do it

three times in one day. And when they

understood

that's the environment that signals the

gene, that's epigenetics,

and the end product of an experience in

the environment is an emotion and it is,

you could actually signal genes ahead of

the environment by changing your

emotional state. They were doing it with

that intention.

And when you assign meaning to the act,

you get a greater outcome and you turn

on the prefrontal cortex and now your

biology literally begins to change. And

we have data that suggests by just

having the intention to make certain

genes,

to make certain proteins or uh signal

certain genes and make certain proteins.

Just having the intention literally

begins to cause the body to make those

chemicals.

And what causes relapse in those

moments?

Cuz I've had multiple moments of where I

thought behavior change had been

established and I managed to conduct a

new habit cycle and new behavior,

favorable and you know, intended

behavior for a period. And then

something happens in my life

almost subconsciously,

seamlessly.

Seamlessly, and I'm back Yeah.

to all the old circuitry.

You went unconscious. You went

unconscious and normally

it's unconscious to some thought

or some response

in your environment. You see someone or

you do something or you have some

interaction in your outer world and the

moment you have that interaction, you

you causes you to feel a certain way and

you return back to to the past,

basically. The the emotion is the past.

And that the body is actually living in

the past. It's so objective, it doesn't

know the difference.

It doesn't know the difference between

the real-life experience that's creating

that emotion and the emotion that

person's living by every day. It's

believing it's in the same past

experience again. And it will behave in

the past and it will think in the past.

Subconsciously. Subconsciously.

Seamlessly. So, I could for for example,

if going to

I don't know, let's say France. I had a

traumatic experience in France when I

was 10 years old, let's just say. And

then I go to France when I'm 30 years

old and I get back to I just start

eating junk food,

for example.

And I don't know why. I've like fallen

out of my gym habit and I'm eating junk

food. That

Theoretically, that could be my

subconscious that