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the advantages of being a dude are only

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held by a certain amount of dudes,

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right? And if you're not one of those

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dudes, like then what? So, the deck is

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stacked against you. Men are judged

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based on their appearance. It used to be

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that obesity didn't really matter at

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your workplace. Now, it matters a lot.

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Now, we have these billionaires who are

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all ripped and injecting peptides.

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Billionaires are no longer fat slobs who

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eat like whatever all day. They're

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people who have nutritionists and

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personal trainers and stuff like this.

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So, I think this kind of represents how

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people feel about it.

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>> But your vanity, self-obsession, and

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insecurity certainly will.

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>> This is really what women are doing.

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They're clowning looks maxers, turning

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off their phone, covering their face

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with makeup, and then swiping left on

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95% of dating profiles while calling you

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vain, calling you insecure. Women were

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the original looks maxers. What's more

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insecure than covering your face with a

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bunch of toxic chemicals every day and

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telling other people looks don't matter?

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Are we living in reality? Do we actually

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lack this much self-awareness? I don't

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know. This is this is crazy work.

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>> So like I think this is the sentiment

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that it's a really interesting sentiment

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because what we I think a big part of

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looks maxing is there is like

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equilibrium between men and women around

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appearance that's growing. But I think

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what what's happening is that people

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feel out of control. And so if I want

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you all to think about this for a

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second, okay? So if my job is being

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stolen by AI and there's inflation,

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there's uncertainty. I was planning I'm

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I'm in my first year of prochemical

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engineering, but I don't know what's

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going on. There's war in Iran. People

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are moving off of fossil fuels. You

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know, electric cars are growing. I don't

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know if the industry that I'm in, I'm a

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programmer, but now AI is taking my job,

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right? So, like the world is

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fundamentally out of control. And I

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think a lot of things that people we

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don't realize is, you know, you can make

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arguments for the patriarchy. Fair

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enough. But I think what's really scary

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is the patriarchy in some ways helps

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men. And this is not my area of

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expertise either. So, like this is just

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what I've observed as a clinician,

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right? So, there's some advantages to

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being a dude, but like a lot of like the

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advantages of being a dude are only held

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by a certain amount of dudes, right? And

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if you're not one of those dudes, like

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then what? Right? So, the deck is

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stacked against you. There's no way to

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get people to fall in love with you,

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right? Which I think is true, but we're

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going to try to educate y'all with the

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guide to love, sex, and relationships.

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That's why we built that thing because

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we want to teach y'all what actually

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works. But then, like, what do you do,

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right? How can you exercise control?

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There's only one domain that you have

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control over which is yourself. And so

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the more out of control we feel, this is

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something that we learned from a paper

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from 1979 about anorexia is there's a

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relationship between the more out of

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control you feel in the outside world,

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the more brutal you will be with

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yourself, right? And there's this weird

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perverse angle to this which like I want

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to go back to this idea of is like I

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don't know if this makes sense. There's

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a certain like if you're a dude, there's

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a certain like nobility to going out

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with a bang. I don't need to be a

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candle. I'mma be a [ __ ] firework. And

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if the price that I pay is the sacrifice

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of my own death, this is something that

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men, we have been, we are raised in a

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culture where sacrificing ourselves is

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to be lauded. Band of brothers, you pay

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the price, but you ain't weak, right?

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Like, does that kind of make like I

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don't know if women in the audience are

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going to get that. If you're a dude,

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hopefully that makes sense. I don't know

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how else to say say it. Like the size of

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our sacrifice increases the moral value

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of what we do. I'm going to go hard. I'm

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going to go extreme. I'm going to

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research. And the more effort that we

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put in, the more we sacrifice, the more

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more more more. We're getting over this

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insecurity. And there is evidence, for

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example, that if I am better looking,

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then my financial outcomes are better,

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my dating outcomes are better, my

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relationship outcomes are better.

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There's some evidence of that. When

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people learn this stuff, they're blown

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away by how little appearance matters. I

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want you all to understand this because

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it's kind of confusing. You can look at

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a study and you can say people who are

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more physically attractive make more

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money than people who are less

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physically attractive. That can be true,

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but that's not the right question to

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ask. The right question is which are the

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variables that contribute the most to

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financial success? And how does

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appearance rank against other things

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like showing up every day like EQ,

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right? So for example, what I observed

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when I was working a lot in banking and

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private equity and stuff, all these

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startups out of Harvard and MIT is like

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e a balance of EQ and IQ is what it

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takes to get to the top. EQ, IQ,

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perseverance, work ethic, high amount of

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conscientiousness, a fair amount of

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anxiety, by the way, because if you're

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not worried about stuff, you're just

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going to kind of chill, right? Right?

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So, when you have very very very low

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neuroticism, it's hard to get your ass

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up in the morning. People who are super

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chill are not super successful. It's not

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harder. There's just a different way to

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do it. Right? So, I think the problem

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with a lot of this research on okay,

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appearance does all of these things is

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that it it doesn't include the rest of

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the variables in the equation. So, as a

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simple example, we showed this this cool

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paper, you know, several like maybe

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about a year ago about the drive for

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muscularity. And the drive for

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muscularity is inversely correlated with

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length of a relationship. So what this

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basically means is that the more

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muscular more swole length of

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relationship. That's what it looks like.

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I'm sure it's not actually like that.

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I'm sure it's it's probably more like

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this actually. So a certain amount of

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drive for muscularity probably improves

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your relationship. And then after that

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and then if you average this out, right?

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So the overall trend of this line is

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still going to be like this. So it's

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still going to be an inverse

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relationship, but I don't think it's a

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straight line down. It's a random aside.

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So a big part of it is control. Next

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thing, so let's talk about

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objectification. So this is the other

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big thing that's happening right now. So

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objectification theory posits that girls

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and women are typically a culture to

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internalize an observer's perspective as

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a primary view of their physical selves.

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Okay? What this means is that the way

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that people see me is the way that I see

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myself. This perspective on self can

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lead to habitual body monitoring. Sound

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familiar? Which in turn can increase

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women's opportunities for shame and

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anxiety, reduce opportunities for peak

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motivational states and diminish

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awareness of internal bodily states.

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Okay, I want y'all to remember these

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things. They will become relevant later.

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So, what is self-objectification mean?

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Okay, so it's basically I have an

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opinion of who I am and when somebody

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else sees me, this determines their

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opinion of me. Let's say they think I'm

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attractive and then this becomes this.

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Does that make sense? So they see me,

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they form an opinion. That opinion is

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this opinion. So normally what we

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consider healthy is that I have an

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opinion of myself which is let's say

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this and then someone else sees me and

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they have an opinion of me and these two

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things can be different. And then I can

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even understand that they think of me in

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this way. But I'm able to hold a

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simultaneous opinion that is different.

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And I'm not trying to be alpha beta

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about this. I'm just using those as

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representations. Okay. And this is the

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interesting thing about objectification

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theory is like this came out of like

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feminist psychological research. This

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idea what people started noticing in the

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70s and ' 80s is like okay we're like we

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have magazines, right? We have like lots

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of you know media about women and women

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were portrayed a certain way and then

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people were objectifying women and then

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women started objectifying themselves

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and they started determining their

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internal emotional state. internal

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emotions and peak motivation started

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being influenced by this. Okay, so let's

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take a closer look at the the paper and

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we'll see if we can map on. Right. The

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common thread running through all forms

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of sexual objectification is the

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experience of being treated as a body or

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collection of body farts valued

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predominantly for its use to or

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consumption by others. Did you guys see

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this? Job applications at JP Morgan are

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up 686,000%

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this morning. Okay, so for those of you

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that don't know, there was an alleged

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scandal, we don't know what's true or

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not, that there was a junior member at

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JP Morgan, a junior banker who was um

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basically repeatedly sexually assaulted

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by a woman who made all kinds of

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suggestive sexual remarks and uh there

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was a allegation, right? And this is

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like I I think this is a kind of it's

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funny. I was on my friends and we were

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actually laughing about it on Discord

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and I was like this is not funny, right?

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But we're we're sort of like it's it's

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so weird how much we've been programmed

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where it's like the things that this

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senior female banker did to this junior

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banker is something that men would love

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to happen to them. They think that until

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they're actually in that situation. It's

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just a psych. It's not doesn't feel good

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to be sexually predated. Even though men

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will joke about it, they don't

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understand. They have no frame of

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reference. Right? Thankfully, most of us

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don't have a frame of reference. We've

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never been sexually assaulted. But the

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idea of being forced to do all kinds of

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things to your relatively attractive

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female boss is something that men will

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joke about like applications are up

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700,000%. Right? So this is this is

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what's so interesting I think and this

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is what's so hard and fascinating to me

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is that we live in a culture and this is

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not just true of men, right? Where like

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this is something that many men I've

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worked with long for, right? So, this

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paper is talking about how sexual

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objectification leads to

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self-objectification. But there are so

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many men I've worked with who would want

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nothing more than to be treated like a

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piece of meat that is desired by women.

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This is something I strive for. And it's

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not just men, right? There's lots of

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women who feel this way, too. I want to

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be the object of someone's lust. I don't

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care about them loving me as a person. I

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want to be that which is hungered and

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thirsted for. Now, the question is, why

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on earth do they feel that way? And this

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is where I'm going to go off the rails

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again. So, when we grow up, we develop

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templates of human interaction. And one

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of the most common templates that a lot

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of dudes develop is when they hit

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puberty and they get really horny, there

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is the object of their lust. And we can

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say that this is not good and it's

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dehumanizing and all this kind of stuff,

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which is true. We'll get to this in more

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detail when we get further into the

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self-objectification. But then in this

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template, there's the horny incel and

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then there's the sexually available

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person who gets their pick, right? I'm

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looking up at this thing. So the

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template that I have is that there's the

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high sexual marketplace value and the

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low sexual marketplace value. And so

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what happens with human beings is when

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they develop a template, they don't try

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to scrap the template. They're actually

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very resistant to scrap the template.

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What they try to do is elevate

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themselves to the high position. So this

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is why people kids who are abused at

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home become bullies because the template

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that they learn is there's a strong

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person, there's a weak person. The

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strong person hits, the weak person

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cries like a little [ __ ] and then when

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I go to school, which one do I want to

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be? They reclaim the power that they

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lose in this relationship by inflicting

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that pain on another person. This is how

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the cycle of trauma perpetuates. And

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when you have a lot of horny kids who

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aren't able to get dates and aren't able

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to get laid, they strive to be they

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objectify this person, right? And then

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they want to be objectified. I want

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women to surround me and want this body.

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Not necessarily who I am, but want this

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body. And then there's really

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fascinating science behind this. Okay.

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Diminish awareness of internal bodily

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states. This is another important

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element. Okay. We'll get to that in a

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second. So objectification theory posits

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that the cultural millu of

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objectification functions to socialize

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girls and women now men at some level

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treat themselves as objects to be looked

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at and evaluated. Right? So does this

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apply to looks maxers? Do looks maxers

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treat themselves as objects to be looked

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at and evaluated? Women now looks maxers

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often adopt an observer's perspective on

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their physical selves. And then there's

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a certain sequence to this that we can

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get into if you all want. begins with

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compliance to minimally sufficient

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external pressures. So what does this

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mean? This means that the first stage so

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stage number one diminished internal

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signal. This is going to become

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important too. Okay. So this starts with

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external signals compliance with

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external pressures. So everyone wants me

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to be beautiful, right? So people want

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me to be beautiful and then I'm going to

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comply with that. I'm going to become

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beautiful. Then this leads to

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internalization and identification. So,

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this isn't like really rocket science,

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but basically people say I should look a

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certain way. I start looking that

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certain way and then I start to believe

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that I'm that way. Okay? And then what

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that ends up with is claiming ownership

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of socialized values and attitudes. So,

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we live in a world of dating apps where

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like this is another huge selection

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pressure. Why is this changing for men?

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Part of the reason it's changing for men

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is because men are objectified on a

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level now, right? That like women were

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objectified in in the 70s and 80s. Men

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are judged based on their appearance. It

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used to be that obesity didn't really

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matter at your workplace. Now it matters

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a lot. Now we have these billionaires

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who were all ripped and injecting

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peptides, right? Billionaires are no

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longer fat slobs who eat like whatever

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all day. They're people who have

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nutritionists and personal trainers or

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and have testosterone replacement

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therapy and stuff like this. Right? So

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the the male uber mench is a

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self-actualized individual who is sexy,

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attractive, the object of everybody's

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lust and rich and in control of their

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lives and then it gets incorporated into

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their true sense of self. Okay, this is

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where we end up. So now this goes back

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to this thing where like now the way

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that I think about myself is the way

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that other people treat me. So, I think

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this is just a cool capture this idea of

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the phrase of the looking glass self.

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So, this is a self that is determined by

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what I see in the mirror. Okay. Pointing

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out, however, that only one in 40,000

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women actually meet the requirements of

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a model's shape and size argues that the

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fem the ideal female body myth is

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unrealistic and vers virtually

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impossible to attain. So, this is where

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looks maxing comes in, right? So, back

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in the 70s and 80s, the ideal image of a

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woman was not attainable. And now we see

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why some of this hard maxing stuff like

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bone smashing and mewing and stuff like

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that, right? Leg lengthening surgery,

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cosmetic surgery has accelerated. We

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have face contouring, we have makeup, we

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have all these things that are

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attainable. So back in the day, what

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happened is the psychological process

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for a woman who felt objectified was

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like, okay, we got to do that internal

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work because the external work isn't

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possible. There's nothing that you can

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do to become a supermodel. But in a

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world of cosmetic surgery, steroid use,

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testosterone

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like h boine growth hormone injections,

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leg lengthening surgery, we no longer

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have to do the psychological work

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because oh, there is a system. There's

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almost a protocol with steps that you

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can do, right? There are all of these

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things that you can do to attain this

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what used to be unattainable standard,

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right? We can [ __ ] inject IGF

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peptides, insulin derived growth or

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insulin like growth factor, not derived,

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insulin like IGF which boosts muscle

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growth. Then there's a couple of other

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things. So shame is a big emotion here,

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right? A desire to hide to escape

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painful gaze above others or to

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disappear alongside feelings of

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worthlessness or powerlessness. Right?

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So I want to I'm going to ask you all a

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question. What do you think is the

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emotion of the person who is

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experiencing this?

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Uh

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what

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>> right? So we see like anger but like

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right when someone looks like this and

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then this happens right and then they

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look like this like what do you think

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when you have a looks maxing influencer

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we don't know maybe he just was

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responding to the fact that he was

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assaulted and someone put hands on him.

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So here's what I would really like to

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happen. I want you all to finish

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listening to this lecture and then I

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want you all to go back and look at

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clips of these people and look at how

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important it is for them to appear a

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certain way. Make sense? So it's there's

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shame. Okay, there's a couple of other

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elements. Okay, so this is another thing

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that we find from self-objectification

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theory is that when you objectify

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yourself in this way, it is very

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motivating. Okay, how is it motivating?

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because now you're like working really

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hard. So now we get to the BPD element.

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Okay, so let's talk about BPD for a

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second. So borderline personality

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disorder is a personality disorder that

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is characterized by a chronic sense of

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emptiness and has an internal sense of

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self that is unstable. Okay, so the two

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things are chronic emptiness and a sense

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of self that is unstable. I don't know

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who I am. And what happens in BPD? Uh we

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have a our second most successful video

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on the channel on the YouTube channel is

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me explaining BPD. I love working with

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patients with BPD. A lot of people will

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avoid them because supposed to be

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difficult, but I have a lot of

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compassion. They're just amazing

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individuals who are just struggling

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because they don't know who they are. So

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then what happens with BPD is the way I

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feel about myself is determined by the

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way that people treat me. So being in a

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relationship with someone with BPD is

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very difficult because if I get angry at

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you and you've got BPD, my anger towards

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you is not me being angry. That becomes

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your sense of selfworth. So if someone

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is angry at me, me that means I am bad.

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So basically the problem in BPD is this

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step right here. This happens a lot

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where if someone thinks about me in a

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certain way then that's the way that I

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feel about myself. Okay? So then people

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with BPD have a challenge because the

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way they feel about themselves is

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determined by the way that people treat

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them. So then what happens is people

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with BPD become very manipulative

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subconsciously for the most part. But

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they do all kinds of things to

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manipulate other people's reaction to

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them. Don't ever get mad at me. Often

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times the women that I work with will

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almost like this is not really the right

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word but it's the best word. They will

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weaponize sex. they will discover. So,

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people with a history of BPD have high

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coorbidities of substance use, which

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we'll get to in a second. And they also

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tend to have a history of intense and

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unstable relationships, engage in a lot

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of high high-risisk sexual behavior.

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Okay? And one of the reasons that they

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engage in high-risisk sexual behavior is

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because when a woman has BPD and she

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engages in a sexual activity, it changes

18:11

the way that people react to her. It

18:13

changes the way that she's treated,

18:14

right? So when some when I have sex with

18:16

someone, it increases the likelihood

18:18

that they will like treat me well and

18:20

they will hold me and I'll feel good and

18:21

we'll feel good together and it'll be

18:22

amazing and it'll be like in the movies.

18:24

So they become dependent on other

18:27

people's evaluation to to determine

18:30

their own selfworth, right? And I think

18:32

what we see in a lot of looks maxers is

18:35

a piece of that. This is when we take

18:37

self-objectification and we kind of

18:40

elevate it a little bit more. We sort of

18:42

end up in this BPD kind of character

18:44

structure. I'm not saying looks maxers

18:47

all have BPD. I have no idea. There's a

18:48

whole set of diagnostic criteria. What

18:50

I'm saying is that there is a core

18:52

element of BPD that I think predisposes

18:57

people to look maxing. Because when I

18:59

don't feel good about who I am, when I

19:01

don't feel confident in who I am, when I

19:03

don't know who I am, and I start to

19:05

change all of my appearance because I

19:07

feel out of control and stuff like that,

19:09

and then then the most dangerous thing

19:11

for a looks maxer is for the world to

19:13

respond the way that they want because

19:15

now I know how to evoke this response.

19:19

Now I know how to get respect. Now I

19:21

know how to feel desired. Now I know how

19:23

to be the person that people lust after

19:26

instead of the one who is doing the

19:28

lusting and it feels amazing, right? So

19:30

the more dependent you are on that kind

19:34

of feedback from other people, the more

19:36

addictive this is going to be. And then

19:38

something cool happens for these people

19:40

because if we look at the stuff that

19:41

looks maxers do, there's really cool

19:44

research on something called behavioral

19:45

activation and depression. So when you

19:47

have someone who's suffering from a

19:48

major depressive episode, they don't

19:50

feel like doing anything. But the more

19:51

that you do, the better you start to

19:53

feel. See, a lot of people think you

19:55

cure the depression or treat the

19:56

depression, then you feel like doing

19:58

stuff and then you do more stuff. It's

20:00

actually the other way around. You force

20:01

yourself to do things and when you force

20:03

yourself to do things, your mood

20:05

actually elevates. You start to feel

20:07

more in control of your life, which by

20:08

the way is very attractive by the way.

20:10

So, number one thing, not number one

20:11

thing, but one of the top three things,

20:13

this is in the guide, too, that people

20:14

are attracted to, men and women, is a

20:16

sense of direction in someone's life,

20:18

being in control of your life. You don't

20:19

want to be in a relationship with

20:20

someone whose life is directionless in a

20:22

dumpster fire. You want to be in a

20:23

relationship with someone who knows

20:24

where they're going, right? It doesn't

20:26

have to be like a career. It can even be

20:27

like you want to be a stay-at-home mom,

20:28

stay at home dad, you're devoted to, you

20:30

know, being a homesteader. Like, that

20:32

works, too. This is the kind of stuff we

20:33

cover in the guide. But going back to

20:34

motivation, like it's so cool because if

20:37

you're someone who's like life is

20:39

falling apart and you don't know what

20:40

job you have and you don't know what's

20:41

happening to your degree and you you

20:43

don't know if you can find a job, but

20:45

you can start taking control and you

20:47

start doing stuff, right? You start

20:49

liking the way that you look in the

20:50

mirror. You start hitting the gym. Your

20:52

cortisol levels are better. These looks

20:53

maxers will will uh say, "Hey, you got

20:56

to get eight hours of sleep every night.

20:57

You got to reduce your cortisol levels.

20:59

Reduce your inflammatory burden. Start

21:01

eating healthy." and you get motivated

21:03

to do all of these good things. And when

21:05

you start doing these things, you start

21:06

to feel really motivated, too. This is

21:08

the self-help part of it. This can feel

21:10

really good. It can be really good and

21:11

be really healthy. And so that stuff I

21:13

think is fine, but then we also have the

21:15

sense of diminished internal signals,

21:17

right? And then we get to stories like

21:18

this one, which is really sad. I just

21:20

got home. That was brutal. All the

21:21

substances are just to cope. Trying to

21:24

feel neurotypical while being in public,

21:26

right? But obviously this is that isn't

21:28

a real solution. This is the sentence

21:29

that really like I I felt for this guy

21:32

trying to feel neurotypical in public,

21:34

right? What does that mean to y'all?

21:36

Like we don't know what it means to him

21:37

exactly, right? We don't we haven't

21:38

talked to him or anything like that. But

21:40

like this is the thing. It's like this

21:41

is an attempt to feel normal, right? And

21:44

this is the scary thing is like people

21:46

with BPD have a higher risk of of

21:48

substance use. And this is exactly why

21:50

because they don't like the way they

21:52

feel on the inside. The way that they

21:54

feel on the inside is determined by the

21:55

way that people treat them. When we're

21:57

talking about self-objectification

21:58

theory, what we know about these people

21:59

is that they have diminished internal

22:02

signals. So the reason that this is the

22:04

case is because this is blocked. Their

22:08

ability to determine the way they feel

22:10

about themselves is actually blocked.

22:13

And this internal feeling, being blind

22:15

to your internal state, is also a risk

22:17

factor for addiction. It's one of the

22:18

fundamental risk factors for addiction

22:20

is when you don't know who you are on

22:22

the inside. So, you can't self-regulate

22:24

internally naturally or you haven't

22:26

learned how to do it. There's a lot of

22:28

negative emotions, shame, anxiety,

22:30

judgment. You feel bad about yourself.

22:33

And so, there are two things that people

22:34

will do. They'll either change their

22:36

appearance to change the way that people

22:39

treat them or they will use drugs. But

22:41

the fundamental thing, this is what's

22:42

really kind of sad and I think this is

22:44

the basic work that I try to do with

22:46

people when I'm working with someone who

22:47

has this kind of structure is, you know,

22:49

if you're with body dysmorphia or

22:51

anorexia or whatever, right? Like it's

22:53

all about connecting with who you are

22:55

within. Because once your sense of

22:57

identity, once your sense of selfrespect

22:59

is independent of the way that people

23:02

treat you, then you're golden. You can

23:03

receive the judgment of others

23:05

acknowledging its real world impact

23:08

which is like okay if I like don't look

23:10

good then my chances of promotion are

23:12

lower that is factually true but there

23:16

are also many other things that I can do

23:18

to increase my likelihood of promotion

23:20

outside of my appearance if someone

23:22

doesn't like the way that I look that is

23:24

okay at the end of the day what is my

23:26

interaction with this person for the

23:27

rest of my life it's minimal people can

23:29

think I'm ugly and it's like not that

23:30

big of a deal I can go on and live my

23:32

life I can eat food that I enjoy. I can

23:34

lay out in the sun. I can go swimming in

23:36

the ocean. I can read a good book. I can

23:38

play a good video game. I can still

23:39

enjoy working out and feeling healthy,

23:41

right? Like all of those things are

23:42

fine. I can wear SPF skincare to try to

23:45

optimize my appearance some. Not against

23:46

the optimization of your appearance.

23:48

It's a fact that human beings like to

23:49

look good. Human beings like to be

23:51

desired. Nothing wrong with that. It's

23:52

just that when we're not careful about

23:54

these psychological substrates, that's

23:57

when we get into trouble. So there's

23:59

absolutely an element of of muscle

24:01

dysmorphia, body dysmorphia in looks

24:03

maxing. I think a lot of this stuff that

24:05

is uh you know about like facial

24:07

structure and stuff like that there is

24:08

like there is science that shows that a

24:10

certain facial structure is attractive

24:12

but there's also like just because

24:14

that's true doesn't mean that some

24:15

people don't overindex for the

24:17

importance of that. And that's what I

24:19

think is going on. So I think there's an

24:20

element of body dysmorphia. But the the

24:22

tricky thing about looks maxing is that

24:23

once again what we're kind of dealing

24:25

with is not body dysmorphia, not

24:28

borderline personality disorder, maybe

24:30

some amount of self-objectification

24:32

theory, some amount of pressure, like

24:34

almost like an eating disorder kind of

24:36

makeup of like feeling out of control

24:37

and wanting to be control. I think this

24:39

is what's kind of difficult and for me

24:42

personally like exciting is that we're

24:44

living in a world where like these

24:45

labels don't you can't apply those to

24:48

looks maxers. At least I don't think you

24:49

can. And it's not even everyone in it is

24:51

pathologic, right? This is where

24:52

self-help meets self harm. And what is

24:55

the pathology? It is a combination of

24:56

all of these things. And so what what

24:59

you know when I work with people like

25:00

this, it's not like I've worked

25:01

specifically with looks maxer

25:02

influencers by the way, which is an

25:03

important disclaimer, or looks maxers in

25:05

general. I've worked with lots of people

25:06

at body dysmorphia, lots of people who

25:07

are incelss, you know, are very

25:09

hyperconerned about their recessed chin

25:11

and all kinds of stuff. But I think

25:12

that's what's like so tricky about this.

25:13

This is not like one thing. This is like

25:15

a new thing. It's these fundamental

25:17

aspects of psychology that we learn from

25:18

like feminist psychology studies in the

25:21

70s and 80s that are now happening to

25:23

men. We are doing to men what we did to

25:26

women 40, 50 years ago, arguably longer.

25:29

That's when there was an awareness of

25:30

it. This idea of acceptance if you

25:33

weren't a supermodel, that you don't

25:35

have to have kids, that you don't have

25:37

to have a job, that you as a woman have

25:39

the right of self-determination and your

25:41

value as a woman is not determined by

25:43

how you look or what you do or whatever,

25:45

right? that self-determination is a

25:46

thing. And now this level of judgment we

25:48

are seeing because of the rise of social

25:49

media the the you know people are kind

25:52

of getting hammered by all of these

25:54

images and then this sense of being out

25:56

of control it's turning into this soup

25:58

that results in looks maxing

26:06

Everything.

Interactive Summary

This video explores the phenomenon of 'looks-maxing'—the pursuit of physical perfection through extreme measures like surgery, peptides, and intense training—and its connection to deeper psychological patterns. Drawing on objectification theory and clinical insights from work with conditions like BPD and body dysmorphia, the speaker argues that 'looks-maxing' is often a maladaptive response to feeling out of control in an unpredictable world. He highlights how men are increasingly subjected to the same objectification pressures previously focused on women, leading to a cycle where external validation is used to regulate internal worth. The speaker emphasizes the importance of developing a sense of self independent of others' opinions while acknowledging that while appearance optimization can be healthy in moderation, the pathology arises when it becomes an addictive replacement for true self-determination.

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