There is literally no example on planet

Earth of a high functioning society

without big government.

>> not true. Big government is sucking the

life out of more businesses. And I spent

countless hours with businesses. And

they're like, "You can't succeed in the

UK. As soon as you earn anything,

they'll just tax it off you."

>> So, pop off to Dubai, run the business

virtually, and pay no tax. It's idiotic.

I I don't know how you can look at that

and think this is a good system.

>> No, no, I'm saying what needs to happen

is reduce the taxes and the pressure on

the small businesses. Cuz everyone in

this economy needs to own stuff. We need

to own a house, own a business, and own

shares.

>> But not everybody can be an

entrepreneur.

>> Correct. Look, it would be wonderful if

everybody owned something. But ownership

starts with earning enough money so that

you can save money so that you can begin

to own something. So, the problem is

wages. Because most people want to be

able to go to work and be treated

decently, own or earn enough money so

that I can feel secure. I just want to

be married, have kids, own a house.

>> All that. That's what most people

>> that, and I want that for everyone.

That's gone away. Houses are

unaffordable. Local jobs don't exist.

Technology has cut out all the middle

men. No one's paying healthy wages. We

have the most unhappy population. And if

you want to fix that, you have to enact

this.

>> This.

>> Well, I've seen Nick's policies

implemented, and I don't feel it's

enough.

>> You haven't seen all of the policies, so

>> But we need people to know that the

rules that we grew up with have changed,

and people have to learn the rules of

this new economy.

>> Yes, yes, yes, I totally agree. And if

you want to get the economy back on

track, the starting point is