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Putin's Shift From Diplomacy To Military Victory

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All right, Alexander, let's talk about

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uh what's happening with Project

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Ukraine. And let's focus on uh Putin and

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his recent comments during Russia Day

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where he spoke with uh with military uh

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officials, not not high level officials,

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uh soldiers,

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>> uh combatants, special forces, uh the

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the military that is involved in in the

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conflict and has seen action on the

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front line. And uh Putin said some some

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very uh interesting things during his uh

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his talk his statement during uh this

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this meeting with uh with military

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personnel and military officials. Uh

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what what uh what did Putin say? And

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there's been a follow-up meeting, by the

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way, which is equally interesting, which

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was about the redevelopment of the um

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regions that the Russians now control or

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intend to control, Donbass and Novora,

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in which he also said some very very

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interesting things. Now, we've had many

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Putins over the course of this war. We

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had the Putin of last year who was all

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about negotiations, meeting Kushner and

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uh and Witgolf, uh having summit

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meetings with Trump, doing deals in

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Anchorage, talking about better

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relations with um the United States,

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looking for diplomatic settlement. The

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Putin then that we had that Putin

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basically disappeared after the attack

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in Valdai um which took place in

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December. Then we had a long period when

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he basically um stopped talking about

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Ukraine entirely. Then over the last few

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weeks he's back and this meeting that

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you mentioned, the one on Russia day

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with the middle ranking officers was the

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most important meeting. And this is a

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completely different Putin. This is no

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longer the Putin of last year. He's no

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longer talking about negotiations. He no

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longer expects to see negotiations. He's

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focused on victory, military victory.

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He's talking about soldiers. He goes

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enormously into details about drones and

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drone warfare and science and technology

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and the laboratories that are developing

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the drones and how to counter the

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drones. He's talking to the soldiers

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about what they need in order to win on

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the battle fronts. Um it is a completely

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different Putin from the one we saw um a

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year ago and it is in line with the

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Putin that we have been seeing and

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hearing over the last couple of weeks

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but perhaps taken to an even further

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level. So my take negotiations are

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ended. The Americans as far as Putin is

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concerned have let's put it like this

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60% withdrawn from the war. There's

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there's still 40% there. They're still

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guiding the drones. They're still

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providing the intelligence. They're

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still involved in all kinds of covert

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activities, but they're no longer

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sending arms and money directly to

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Ukraine as they used to do. And as far

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as Putin is concerned, I think he feels

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that he achieved that last year and he

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is going to bank that. Um the Europeans

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he is utterly scathing about. He doesn't

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consider that there's any prospect of

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negotiation with them at all. He's very

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confident about the military situation

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and his whole emphasis now is on giving

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the soldiers or at least appearing to

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give the soldiers everything that

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they're asking for. He's involved with

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the military-industrial officials to

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make sure that the soldiers get the

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weapons they need to win the war and to

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win it victoriously. And in the

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follow-up meeting that took place after

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that meeting on Russia day, he was

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talking about reconstruction

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of these new Russian territories. It was

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absolutely clear to me that they include

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the whole of Zaporo and Herson. He set a

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time for that reconstruction

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to have brought all of these regions up

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to the same level of living standards as

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you find in across Russia. That time is

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2030,

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which gives you some idea of the

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absolute

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outer limit of how long the war will

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continue. Putin expects the war in

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Ukraine to be ended victoriously before

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2030.

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>> Before 2030. Well,

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>> yeah.

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>> Well, we're in 2026. So, that's four

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years. That's four years into the

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future. Plenty of time. Plenty of time.

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Uh, but

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>> what does that really mean? Next year, 6

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months. Next year, two years, three

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years. I mean,

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>> I I doesn't really say much. We are

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talking about a long period of reconstru

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Oh, but I mean there were some people

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there were some people where I've been

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who have been talking about a 10-year

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war. He clearly doesn't expect a 10-year

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war. Um if he's talking about bringing

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Donbass Zaporo in Hers region up to

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Russian standards, Russian living

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standards and all the other things that

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go with that, you know, replacing lifts

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in apartment buildings, rebuilding uh

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cities, doing all of that kind of thing,

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it probably means he expects the war to

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be ended perhaps sometime next year.

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>> Yeah. 2030 would put it right at the

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same time that NATO is going to to start

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their war with Russia, right? 29. So, so

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you finish Ukraine and then you start up

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with NATO. Is is that the plan anyway?

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>> Well, I if NATO and Europe is serious

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about

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>> if NATO well a lot to say about that

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with again video yeah

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>> different video um is

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>> but but negotiations that that stage is

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behind us. I think that's conclusively

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no. Yeah.

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>> Yeah. Um, is is Putin misreading the

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situation with the Trump administration?

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>> Um, the US has withdrawn support to to

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Ukraine

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>> kind of. Um,

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>> is it because the US wants to withdraw

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whatever support they've uh they've

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given to Ukraine or is it because they

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have to given the situation with Iran?

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um they just don't have the the weapons

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to to send to Ukraine or if they they do

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have any weapons, they're going to

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prioritize them for for the war against

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Iran, for Israel, for the Gulf uh uh

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allies, the Gulf partners. So, I mean,

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did did did the US make the decision or

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or was this more out of necessity for

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the United States? So, is Putin

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misreading what's happening with the US?

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Well,

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it's it's important, I think, if I if

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it's the other situation because if you

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do get the the ceasefire, the 60-day

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memorandum, ceasefire, you have a pause

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in in the fighting, um what are what are

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the risks or the chances that the Trump

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administration says, "Okay, now we can

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we can sell more weapons to NATO to to

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give to Ukraine." I mean, it's not so

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much the US making a choice rather than

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being forced to to to make that choice.

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This is absolutely possibly true and I

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suspect there's a lot of discussion and

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debate about this still within the

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Kremlin. But I think the the general

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Putin's own view, and I don't think this

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is unique just to him, is that the

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Americans actually um really do want to

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start pulling their forces out of

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Europe. I mean, he sees that the

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Americans are pulling troops out of

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Europe. He sees that General Kinkovic is

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pouring cold water on all the

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suggestions that the Russians are about

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to attack Europe. I mean, he he this is

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the US NATO commander. Um he said

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there's no evidence that the Russians

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really are planning an attack on Europe.

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Um he he um sees that the US is now

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increasingly focused on China and that

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seems to be the Pentagon's priority.

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When there was an there was an

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announcement by Trump that he was going

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to deploy 5,000 troops to Poland, the

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Pentagon hated it and they made it very

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clear that they don't like that

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announcement at all and they seem to be

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determined to scotch it. So what I think

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Putin is thinking and he may be

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completely wrong and in a new

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administration may reverse the policy

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entirely but I think what Putin is

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saying to himself is by being very soft

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softly softly with Donald Trump he's

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allowed the situation to come about

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where the Americans are able to scale

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down their support for Ukraine which

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they were already doing before the

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attack on Iran. And um he's also giving

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the Americans the space to pull their

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forces increasingly out of Europe. And

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the reason they want to do that is

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because the focus, the American focus

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now is China. And it is unlikely that

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they are going to come back. Now all of

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this is very much calculation. It may be

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completely wrong. It may be that we will

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get a Democrat administration reelected

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in 2028 which will have a totally

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different agenda and may go back to the

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Biden agenda again of recommitting to

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Ukraine and to Europe and to all of

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these things. But for the moment, whilst

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Trump and the Republicans are still in

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office, Putin probably calculates that

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this will hold. He's got the space to

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continue the war. And yes, the Americans

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have not totally withdrawn, but they

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have withdrawn enough to make things a

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lot easier for the Russians in Ukraine.

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So, they will just focus on the war from

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now on.

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>> Well, I think that is the calculation.

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>> Yeah, I understand that calculation, but

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uh I don't even go to to the next

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elections to the 2028 uh elections. What

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happens if Trump most likely will lose

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the the House, possibly the Senate, and

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the Democrats start up a new Russia

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gate, which is very, very likely, a new

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impeachment, a new Russia gate. Trump is

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is is a Putin puppet. Look what he's

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doing with Ukraine. He's withdrawing

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from Ukraine. Um, and and all this

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stuff. So, what does Trump do? His

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administration, they say, "Okay, let's

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start pouring more weapons into into

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Ukraine. More javelins and and more more

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um yeah, long-range missiles or whatever

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in order to prove that we're not a Putin

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stew." that that can easily happen in in

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6 months. Very easily happen. And then

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everything the dynamics change. What

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about the CIA?

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Yeah, sure. No weapons to or or or less

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weapons to Ukraine, but still providing

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satellites, still providing the

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Starlink, still giving all of the

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targeting stuff. And you you also start

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to shift, and we're already seeing this

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uh to to the covert war. So you just say

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to the CIA, Europe, we're going to sell

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you the weapons. You do what you need to

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do. CIA, you guys do what you need to

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do. As President Trump, I'm just going

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to pretend that that I'm not engaged

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with Project Ukraine and focus on China

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in the Middle East. The the the covert

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war, I think the Russians are fully

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aware of and they're preparing for as

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well. And this is something I will

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discuss when I get back to London. If I

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can just say, I mean, the the the

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Russians are fully aware that that is

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coming. Um, I think you're absolutely

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right on every single point you made. I

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think that the Russians actually, and

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I'm going to say it, I think they have

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they don't fully understand the

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complexities of the American political

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system. They don't understand that if

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Congress flips um the whole dynamic

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might change again. And Putin is m

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making a calculation. And I think this

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is in fact I'm confident he is making

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this calculation, but he's making this

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calculation. It might very well turn out

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to be wrong. But that is the calculation

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nonetheless that he's making that Trump

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will remain sufficiently in control in

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the United States right up to the time

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of the next presidential election. And

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the Russians are winning the war. He's

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absolutely I think Putin has no doubt

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about this whatsoever by the way. And I

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think and and by the way the

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overwhelming sentiment amongst the

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people I've been meeting here. We will

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talk about this more in London is that

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the Russians are definitely winning the

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war. So he is confident. He thinks he's

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pushed the Americans to a great extent,

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not totally to one side. He doesn't take

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the Europeans perhaps as seriously as he

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should. There may be another

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miscalculation there. I think he maybe

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underestimates

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how uh uh you know reckless some people

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in Europe are.

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He thinks that at the moment the key

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thing to do is just focus on the war on

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drones on Rasvet which is Russia's own

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equivalent to Starink which he seems to

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believe is going to come into operation

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very soon and that's all he needs to

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focus on at the moment.

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>> Yeah, a very soft approach with the with

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the Europeans and with the drone

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situation. um almost a non-existent uh

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approach with with the drone situ at

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least that's how it seems. Um

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>> yes I I I I

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harden my view about the drones by the

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way here um in in in Moscow there might

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be a lot of people who are angry about

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the drones but here where I am which is

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outside um I I I get a completely

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different vibe but this is again

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something we'll talk about when we are

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>> Yeah. Yeah. because I've also got

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stories when I was in Moscow of of

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certain things with with with the drugs,

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but we'll we'll discuss that when you're

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back.

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>> Yes.

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>> Um the the G7, just to wrap up the

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video, the G7 is going to be taking

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place in France.

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>> Uh Trump is going to attend a uh a

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working session with the G7 leaders and

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with Silinski.

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>> Um he's not going to at least the

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announcement, his itinerary does not

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show a bilateral meeting with Silinski.

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positive that the Europeans will figure

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out a way

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>> to get Trump into a situation where he's

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sitting down with Zilinski probably with

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Makaron babysitting.

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>> Um but but so far it looks like Trump is

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going to be meeting in bilateral uh in a

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bilateral scenario

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with uh with the Gulf states that are

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going to be attending the G7, not with

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uh with Silinski. Uh what does that tell

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you? that he doesn't like Zilinski very

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much and doesn't want to meet him and um

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um that basically he he sees Zilinski as

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a problem rather than a solution to

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anything. But again here um this is

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again a sign of Trump's own limitations

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because he may not like Zilinski but

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he's never cut him off. He's never

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refused to meet Zilinski. He's never

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really put any significant or sustained

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pressure on Zalinski. One wonders

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whether he wants to or whether it's a

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case that he can't. But he will meet he

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will meet with Zilinski. He will meet

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with the Europeans. The Europeans have

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changed nothing in their stance. They

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continue exactly in the same way as

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always.

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um

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he will be put under pressure. He will

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be maneuvered into a meeting with

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Zalinski. But Zalinski is expecting

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Trump at the present time to produce

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Patriot missiles. It's not going to

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Interactive Summary

This video discusses Vladimir Putin's recent shift in focus regarding the war in Ukraine, highlighting a transition from seeking diplomatic negotiations to prioritizing military victory and long-term reconstruction of territories. The speakers analyze Putin's calculations concerning U.S. and European support, noting his belief that the U.S. is gradually disengaging to focus on China, while also discussing the complexities and potential risks of American political dynamics on this strategy.

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