Is this really a good time to be investing?
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I recently had a call with a client of
mine, Mark, who said, "James, I've just
received a bonus, and I'm not sure what
to do with it. Normally, I would have no
problem investing, but right now, yeah,
Trump is being Trump, but what really
concerns me is how high the stock market
is. With what I'm seeing online, we're
in an AI bubble with reliable warning
indicators suggesting that future
returns are likely to be poor. I'm only
5 years from retirement, and with
everything that's going on in the world,
is this really a good time to be
investing?" Now, I know I'm not the only
financial adviser to have got a call
like this recently. Specifically, what
Mark had been seeing online is that
compared with the past, stock market
valuations look extremely high. This is
the Schiller Cape ratio for the S&P 500,
which is a commonly used indicator for
assessing how expensive the stock market
appears to be. And on this measure, US
valuations are back up to where they
were before the dotcom bubble burst.
After which it took 12 years for the US
market to recover back to its previous
high in pound terms. That was one event.
But more broadly, if you look back in
time, periods that started with a high
Schiller PE ratio have on average gone
on to produce significantly lower
returns over the following 10 years. So
on one hand, Mark is seeing data like
this, which clearly does not look good,
but what's making him even more
concerned is the narratives that come
with it. The big narrative of 2026 is
AI. We have a small handful of tech
companies spending hundreds of billions
of dollars building out data centers and
infrastructure for AI through a complex
web of deals that makes it seem like
they're just passing revenues around
between each other. Money is being made,
but it looks like the people who sell
the shovels are just selling them to
each other. The question is whether
there's actually any gold. Is this
spending actually going to turn into
practical applications and profits
anytime soon? If they don't, the fear is
that markets have got so far ahead of
themselves that they'll have to come
back down to earth in a big way. This is
the narrative that had really got its
teeth stuck into Mark. And with what
we've just seen, it's easy to see why.
But what if I told you there's other
explanations? Clearly, by this measure,
valuations are much higher than they
have been in the past. But can you see a
trend here? Since the 1980s, valuations
have continually been drifting higher
and higher. And what if that's
representative of structural changes in
the stock market? That means higher
valuations are here to stay. Over this
period, financial literacy and access to
stock markets has increased
dramatically. There's hundreds of
millions more people who understand the
importance and the the reassuring mass
that sits behind long-term investing. I
mean, this channel is a prime example of
that. And with the advent of apps and
index funds, investing is easier than
ever before. With more and more money
flowing into the markets, this could be
pushing up prices. And think about this.
Since the great financial crisis of
2008, we've seen the Federal Reserve and
other central banks and governments prop
up stock markets in ways we've never
seen before. Bailing out banks, buying
assets, providing liquidity when it's
needed. And the knowledge that central
banks are willing to step in may be
acting like an insurance policy, making
markets inherently less risky and
perhaps deserved higher valuations.
Since the 1980s, we've also seen another
fundamental shift that has reduced risk
for businesses. Back then, defined
benefit pensions were the norm, where at
retirement, companies would pay an
employee a guaranteed income for the
rest of their lives. These were often
extremely generous and put the onus and
the risk of saving for an employes
retirement on the business. So, if the
business did not save enough or invested
poorly, they either had to pay more into
that pension scheme or go bust, as many
of them did. But over the last 40 years,
we've seen a fundamental shift away from
defined benefit pensions to defined
contribution schemes, which are
typically much cheaper for companies and
put the risk of investing and retirement
on the employee. It's really hard to
stress just how big a liability to find
benefit pensions were for companies back
then. But today, S&P 500 businesses are
largely free of those risks. So, that's
three trends there that could be behind
a structural shift towards higher
valuations. And who knows when they'll
stop. They could be providing a tailwind
to markets for decades to come. Now, I
wanted to tell you this to show you that
there is always another narrative,
another way of looking at the same data
and how convincing a smart sounding
narrative that appeals to common sense
can be, especially when it comes from
someone like me who has a big platform
on YouTube. I guess the only thing that
damages my credibility is the fact that
it looks like I'm in a basement right
now. But the truth is that I don't know
if these factors are actually making
meaningful differences to valuations
right now. Maybe they are, maybe they're
not. Now, don't worry. In a second, I'm
going to tell you what I really think
about these high valuations and the
exact advice I gave to Mark. But I just
wanted to make this point to demonstrate
the power of a good narrative and how
easily it can affect our perspectives.
These days with index funds, getting
invested is easy, but staying invested
is a lot harder, perhaps harder than it
has ever been. Because not only are
there a million smart sounding, emotion
hacking narratives on social media, but
the algorithms are built to push the
most extreme view. And the more you
click, the more you get until you get
stuck in an echo chamber where any story
can feel true. Whenever I see a comment
on YouTube from someone saying, "I'm
selling all my US stocks. This is 2000
all over again." or I'm all in on gold.
Fear is dead. My first thought is what
content have they consumed to push them
to that point because no one wakes up in
the morning thinking this stuff. That's
a narrative that they have absorbed from
somewhere else, from someone else whose
incentives might not be clear. Stock
markets are notoriously hard to predict.
So, if you ever find yourself feeling
certain about what's going to happen
next, you need to take a step back,
audit the content you're consuming, and
deliberately go and find a different
perspective because there is always
another side to the story, which is
exactly what I wanted to show Mark.
According to the Cape Ratio, US stock
market valuations are high right now.
And in the past, there has clearly been
a relationship between cape ratios and
subsequent returns. But the question we
need to ask then is can we use high
valuations as a reliable signal to get
out of the market. As you can imagine
given the number of people looking for a
reliable way to time the market there is
a lot of research looking at exactly
this. In one 2017 paper, they looked
back at over a 100red years of stock
market data to assess the performance of
a simple buy and hold strategy invested
in US stocks to a systematic strategy
which varied its stock market exposure
from a minimum of 50% stocks and 50%
cash to 150% stocks by using leverage
when the cake was low. And they thought
this would work well, but the results
were mixed. Between 1900 and 2015, the
buy and hold strategy produced an excess
return above cash of 6.6% per year on an
annualized basis, whilst the timing
strategy achieved a 7.4% return, which
may sound better, but the timing
strategy was more volatile to the extent
that the risk adjusted returns, which is
the important part, were almost
identical. However, over the second half
of this period from 1958, these two
strategies were pretty much identical in
terms of return and riskadjusted return.
Now, when looking back over the full
period, not only were these differences
in return not statistically significant,
but these figures are gross of fees when
in reality the timing strategy would
have had trading and margin costs which
have not been factored in here. Given
the apparent link between cape ratios
and subsequent returns, this is a
puzzle. The explanation that the authors
gave was that the problem with valuation
timing strategies is that valuations can
drift higher or lower for years or
decades, making it difficult to
categorize the current market
confidently as cheap or expensive
without hindsight, which speaks to
exactly what I was talking about
earlier. Because valuations have drifted
higher and higher over the last 40
years, any timing strategy calibrated on
what's happened in the past and what was
normal before would have given premature
signals to get out of the market. So the
takeaway is that in the short term, no.
Cape is not a reliable indicator as to
when to get in or out of the market. And
if you want recent evidence of that,
just look at what's happened since 2022.
The last time the Cape ratio was this
high. Since then, the S&P 500 is up 43%.
Although Cape can't tell us what is
going to happen in the short term, it
does appear to have some predictability
over long time periods. We're talking 10
plus years. So if the market seems
expensive, and again it's hard to assess
what expensive means, but if that seems
to be the case, it's sensible to assume
that stocks will deliver a smaller
premium above cash and other lower risk
assets than they have done in the past.
But with that said, although US
valuations look high right now, that's
not the case for much of the rest of the
world. The UK is trading at valuations
lower or on par with the past, as is
Europe. With all of the research my firm
has done, we've not seen evidence of any
reliable way to time when to get in or
out of the markets or switch between
countries. So, as I said to Mark, we
need to focus on what we can control.
Firstly, diversification. Mark, this is
why you are not invested in a single
country. You're invested across the
world in big companies, small companies,
tech, healthcare, energy, the lot. And
although cape ratios can't tell us
what's going to happen in the short
term, in the long term, there does
appear to be some predictive ability.
So, it makes sense for us to assume that
a globally diversified portfolio of
stocks will deliver a lower premium than
it has in the past. Which is exactly why
when we've built your financial plan, we
did not assume that stocks are going to
deliver 10% returns per year. We stress
tested the plan using conservative
assumptions. And the good news is that
even with those, your plan still works.
And for this bonus, when it comes to
investing a lump sum, it is so easy to
get caught up in the narratives that you
read online. But again, we need to focus
on what we can control. Although you're
planning on retiring in 5 years, we've
already started to set aside money in
lower risk assets for that eventuality.
So the vast majority of your money,
including this bonus, is going to need
to remain invested for the next 10, 20,
30, hopefully 40 years. So the question
we need to ask is not what are the
markets going to do over the next few
months or years because the honest
answer is no one knows. What we care
about is where it's likely to be 20
years from now. And because you're
investing across the entire globe,
you're not betting on a single country
or sector, you're betting on the
continued growth, prosperity, and
ingenuity of the human race. And despite
the negative narratives you hear online,
that's not something you should bet
against. Now, for anyone, even seasoned
investors, investing a big chunk of
money can be nerve-wracking. No matter
what your head is saying, when your
finger hovers over that button, your
emotions can easily get the better of
you. So what we decided to do in Mark's
case, and I don't recommend this for
everyone, but because Mark was feeling
nervous, we decided to systematically
phase the money into the markets over a
period of 6 months. Not because we think
it's going to deliver a better return.
In fact, the chances are that it won't
simply because markets tend to go up
more than they go down. But just in case
markets do fall straight after we start
this, it's easier for Mark to then view
that as a good thing as he gets to buy
in at a lower and lower price. And then
on the flip side, if markets do rise,
yes, he's buying in at a higher price,
but because he's already got a lot of
other money invested in the markets, you
know, that's a good news story, too.
When I first started investing, I can
remember that markets were at an
all-time high. And I was thinking surely
markets are going to fall below where
they are now at some point. So why don't
I just hold on to my cash and then buy
in when they're lower. At the time it
felt so intuitive. But of course I ended
up sitting there in cash whilst the
markets just went on higher and higher
and higher. And this is something that I
expect most investors can relate to.
It's probably something you've done at
some point. So, a few years ago, I
decided to do some research, looking
back into the past at whether it's been
more likely for stock markets to fall
after setting an all-time high on that
particular trading day compared with any
other normal trading day where it's not
at an all-time high. And all I can say
is that you're going to need to watch
this video here because I was shocked by
what I found. I'll see you there.
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This video addresses investor concerns about high stock market valuations and the prevailing AI bubble narrative. It examines the Shiller CAPE ratio, historical data, and the potential reasons for persistently high valuations, including increased financial literacy, the role of central banks, and the shift from defined benefit to defined contribution pensions. The video argues that while high valuations might suggest lower future returns over the long term, they are not a reliable indicator for short-term market timing. It emphasizes the power of narratives in shaping investment decisions and advises focusing on controllable factors like diversification and long-term goals rather than trying to time the market. The speaker shares personal advice given to a client named Mark, suggesting a phased investment approach for lump sums to manage emotional responses to market fluctuations.
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