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>> most interested um

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that you have [clears throat] a by the

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most unique perspective on, probably the

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only one. Um is

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what was the inspiration for CrossFit?

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I was a

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I was a competitive gymnast

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with a

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uh

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uh

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obsessive uh fascination

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with uh bicycles.

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And I had discovered as a kid uh young

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in my in my early teens that I could

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with with uh dumbbell and barbells

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um get stronger than any other gymnast I

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knew.

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And uh that was that was that was a uh

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epic moment for me. And so I end up

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swinging it with a bunch of gymnasts

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that won't lift weights and don't ride

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bikes.

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People that lift weights that won't do

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gymnastics or ride bikes. And a coterie

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of bike riding friends that won't do

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gymnastics or lift weights. And I knew I

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knew a a a fair number of people that

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were stronger than I was at weights that

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I did weightlifting with, weight

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training. I knew people that could ride

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bikes better than I could. I knew people

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that could that were better gymnasts

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than I were. But if you were even

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slightly better or even at my skill

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level at any one of those three, I'd

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crush you at the other two. Crush you.

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And so the question kind of comes to a

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young kid how fit is this guy? I mean,

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what is it what is the cost of being

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marginally a better gymnast than me if

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you can't ride a bike without passing

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out and you and you and your

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weightlifting sucks, you're weaker than

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my sister. I mean, where what price have

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you paid for this expertise? And I I I

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had the essence of that uh

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uh

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moral play, if you will, and and it

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feels that way almost in the

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physiological world for me. I had the

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essence of that lesson

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well ingrained with by the time I was 15

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years old. I got that I had a

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generalized

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that you know, it was my dad's my dad's

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dread was that I'd become a

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jack-of-all-trades and a master of none.

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And I think it struck me as like, well,

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I think that's what I'm trying to do. It

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actually It actually works, you know?

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Why can't we be pretty damn good at

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everything, especially for doing

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everything?

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And so and and so if you if you were

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better than me even marginally at any

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one of the others at any one of the

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three items, I'd crush you at the other

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three. But even more interesting, we

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could go do something that none of us

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had done. Like try jujitsu or or surf,

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and I'm going to be even even have a a

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more potent advantage there. In those

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things that none of us had done. So

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again, the question is, "Geez, what, you

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know,

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talk about cross training." And and

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therein lies the essence of the CrossFit

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notion. Um

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for me

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at the at at the first hearing of a

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triathlon, bike run swim long, that's

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not cross training.

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There there there's there's they have an

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enormous amount in common

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physiologically. The movements mechanics

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may be very different, but the metabolic

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pathways are so [ __ ] identical that

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you're you're deluding yourself to think

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that getting out on your bike, running,

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and swimming has you has you uh well

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trained. That your breadth of adaptation

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is anything other than that of a

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specialist.

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Um

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and I want to I want to roll up on that.

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One of the things that struck me that

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was unique about CrossFit

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um and this I

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I I was I was told this was part of your

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history is that CrossFit is you never

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work out alone. You always do it in a

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community.

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Um what inspired that? This is easy. It

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was the It was the realization that I'm

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working 55 hours a week and uh

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on one on one on ones.

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Uh

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and uh

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and by

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week's end, you know, I'm still training

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7 days a week. And at the end of each

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day one on ones one on one training

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>> Yeah, one on one training. Private

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training sessions with clients. And by

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uh uh

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day's end my my clients at 9:00 p.m.

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aren't getting what the ones at 5:00

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a.m. got.

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Anywhere near.

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And so and and yet I didn't want to pass

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up business or or let people go. I

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wanted to give everyone an opportunity

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to get fit. And so I found myself in

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this interesting position of

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telling a 5:00 a.m. client that I got

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great news for you. I'm going to I found

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you a workout partner. And it's the the

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good news is doubly compounded cuz it's

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going to reduce your training rate.

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You're paying me 75 bucks an hour, I'm

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going to take you down to 50.

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And uh

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How

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How were you able to do that?

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>> I'm going to have two people in that

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slot. And it and twice 50 is 100. I just

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gave myself a $25 an hour raise. And and

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>> Okay. And they they you know, they'd

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half bite. They're like, "I don't know.

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I'm not really short of money. I really

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liked our gig." And I go, "Well, you got

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to understand something, man. I'm

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starving and got to pay the bills and I

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need your help. And I think you're

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really going to like this guy, this gal.

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Just try it for me for a week. And if

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you don't like it, um we'll get rid of

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it." And and of everyone I did that to,

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and there were there were scores of

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them, I had one person that that's like,

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"This ain't cool." And she made me train

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her one on one uh three days a week for

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years and years and years. And even she

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would look out on the floor and hear

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everyone laughing. "What are they

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laughing at?" I go, "Well, they're

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having a lot of fun cuz they really like

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each other and they're all friends. And

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but we have to get back to work, so quit

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watching, you know?" She just She She

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wanted to be in that group and couldn't

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get herself to do it.

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But uh the the motivation initially

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was uh was uh uh

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economic.

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But the reality is that um I found that

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I was imparting at least as good as

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instruction uh two on one as I was one

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on one.

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Um and there was a resonance and

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interaction with two that made trying

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three a really [ __ ] good idea. And

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down the road what I found is that I

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could up to 15 or 20 people give them

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all they wanted of me in the one on one.

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Now, maybe it wasn't as much attention,

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but the way you work a group

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um nobody's really looking for me to

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come over and talk to them. Cuz it

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generally what I'm able to do in a group

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of 15 people is I'll be like, "Yeah,

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Greg, try it. Great. Great. What the

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[ __ ] is that, dude? Come on. You kidding

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me? That's how I showed you to squat.

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Let me show you what you're doing. Try

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it again." And so when I when it was

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your turn to get coached, people are

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like, "I think I've had enough

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attention." You'd ask a group of people,

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"Did you get enough individual

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attention?" They go, "Oh, sure. I had

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plenty, thank you." You know?

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They weren't really So if you if you sat

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with me in a classroom for an hour and I

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gave you a few atta boys and nothing

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else, that was like a perfect outcome.

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And and in the next phase of this, Greg,

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is you you intrinsic spontaneous

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occurrence that these clients for whom

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you had no corrections that were there

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three, four days a week and loving it,

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there's my there's my next generation of

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trainers. And those are the people that

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we got to help out at certs. It started

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very naturally, too. Like, you know,

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I've got I've got the heart of our crew

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on the road doing a seminar something

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cross country.

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I don't know who's going to open the gym

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in the morning. We turn to one of these

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one of these clients that's got keys

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anyways.

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Go, "Hey, how'd you like to take the

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class at 6:00 a.m. tomorrow?"

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Never had anyone turn me down on that.

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They're you're kidding. Oh, honor. Wow.

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And they would show up early and be in

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charge in a big way, you know? Really?

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So it's a it's a it's a very natural

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social phenomenon. And And about when

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what year was this

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90

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8 99.

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Yeah, let's go 99.

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2000.

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99 2000, right in there. I was I was in

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Santa Cruz and clearly at capacity as a

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trainer.

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And [music] go, "Hey, look watch me.

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Look at this. I can double up, triple

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up, quad up, quint up."

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And then those people, you know, you got

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you're working with five people when it

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was in Friday at 5:00 a.m.

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Uh it's done. They're going to bring in

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the sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, and

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10th person.

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Interactive Summary

The founder of CrossFit shares the inspiration behind the fitness methodology. Initially a competitive gymnast with a fascination for bicycles, he discovered his strength in weightlifting at a young age. He observed that individuals excelled in one discipline (gymnastics, weightlifting, or cycling) but were often weak in the others. This led to the realization that being proficient in multiple areas was more valuable than being a specialist, forming the core idea of CrossFit. He contrasts this with triathlons, which he argues are not true cross-training due to the physiological similarities between cycling, running, and swimming. Another key aspect of CrossFit is its community-based approach, which originated from an economic necessity. To make ends meet, he started training multiple clients simultaneously, which not only reduced costs but also fostered a supportive and motivating group dynamic. This community aspect proved to be a significant motivator and led to the development of a new generation of trainers from within the client base.

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