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>> most interested um

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that you have [clears throat] a by the

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most unique perspective on, probably the

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only one. Um is

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what was the inspiration for CrossFit?

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I was a

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I was a competitive gymnast

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with a

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uh

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uh

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obsessive uh fascination

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with uh bicycles.

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And I had discovered as a kid uh young

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in my in my early teens that I could

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with with uh dumbbell and barbells

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um get stronger than any other gymnast I

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knew.

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And uh that was that was that was a uh

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epic moment for me. And so I end up

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swinging it with a bunch of gymnasts

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that won't lift weights and don't ride

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bikes.

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People that lift weights that won't do

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gymnastics or ride bikes. And a coterie

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of bike riding friends that won't do

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gymnastics or lift weights. And I knew I

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knew a a a fair number of people that

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were stronger than I was at weights that

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I did weightlifting with, weight

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training. I knew people that could ride

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bikes better than I could. I knew people

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that could that were better gymnasts

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than I were. But if you were even

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slightly better or even at my skill

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level at any one of those three, I'd

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crush you at the other two. Crush you.

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And so the question kind of comes to a

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young kid how fit is this guy? I mean,

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what is it what is the cost of being

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marginally a better gymnast than me if

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you can't ride a bike without passing

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out and you and you and your

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weightlifting sucks, you're weaker than

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my sister. I mean, where what price have

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you paid for this expertise? And I I I

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had the essence of that uh

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uh

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moral play, if you will, and and it

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feels that way almost in the

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physiological world for me. I had the

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essence of that lesson

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well ingrained with by the time I was 15

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years old. I got that I had a

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generalized

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that you know, it was my dad's my dad's

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dread was that I'd become a

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jack-of-all-trades and a master of none.

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And I think it struck me as like, well,

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I think that's what I'm trying to do. It

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actually It actually works, you know?

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Why can't we be pretty damn good at

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everything, especially for doing

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everything?

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And so and and so if you if you were

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better than me even marginally at any

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one of the others at any one of the

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three items, I'd crush you at the other

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three. But even more interesting, we

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could go do something that none of us

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had done. Like try jujitsu or or surf,

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and I'm going to be even even have a a

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more potent advantage there. In those

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things that none of us had done. So

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again, the question is, "Geez, what, you

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know,

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talk about cross training." And and

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therein lies the essence of the CrossFit

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notion. Um

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for me

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at the at at the first hearing of a

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triathlon, bike run swim long, that's

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not cross training.

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There there there's there's they have an

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enormous amount in common

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physiologically. The movements mechanics

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may be very different, but the metabolic

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pathways are so [ __ ] identical that

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you're you're deluding yourself to think

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that getting out on your bike, running,

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and swimming has you has you uh well

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trained. That your breadth of adaptation

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is anything other than that of a

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specialist.

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Um

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and I want to I want to roll up on that.

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One of the things that struck me that

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was unique about CrossFit

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um and this I

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I I was I was told this was part of your

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history is that CrossFit is you never

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work out alone. You always do it in a

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community.

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Um what inspired that? This is easy. It

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was the It was the realization that I'm

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working 55 hours a week and uh

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on one on one on ones.

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Uh

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and uh

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and by

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week's end, you know, I'm still training

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7 days a week. And at the end of each

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day one on ones one on one training

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>> Yeah, one on one training. Private

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training sessions with clients. And by

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uh uh

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day's end my my clients at 9:00 p.m.

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aren't getting what the ones at 5:00

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a.m. got.

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Anywhere near.

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And so and and yet I didn't want to pass

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up business or or let people go. I

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wanted to give everyone an opportunity

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to get fit. And so I found myself in

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this interesting position of

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telling a 5:00 a.m. client that I got

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great news for you. I'm going to I found

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you a workout partner. And it's the the

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good news is doubly compounded cuz it's

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going to reduce your training rate.

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You're paying me 75 bucks an hour, I'm

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going to take you down to 50.

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And uh

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How

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How were you able to do that?

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>> I'm going to have two people in that

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slot. And it and twice 50 is 100. I just

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gave myself a $25 an hour raise. And and

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>> Okay. And they they you know, they'd

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half bite. They're like, "I don't know.

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I'm not really short of money. I really

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liked our gig." And I go, "Well, you got

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to understand something, man. I'm

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starving and got to pay the bills and I

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need your help. And I think you're

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really going to like this guy, this gal.

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Just try it for me for a week. And if

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you don't like it, um we'll get rid of

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it." And and of everyone I did that to,

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and there were there were scores of

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them, I had one person that that's like,

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"This ain't cool." And she made me train

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her one on one uh three days a week for

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years and years and years. And even she

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would look out on the floor and hear

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everyone laughing. "What are they

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laughing at?" I go, "Well, they're

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having a lot of fun cuz they really like

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each other and they're all friends. And

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but we have to get back to work, so quit

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watching, you know?" She just She She

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wanted to be in that group and couldn't

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get herself to do it.

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But uh the the motivation initially

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was uh was uh uh

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economic.

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But the reality is that um I found that

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I was imparting at least as good as

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instruction uh two on one as I was one

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on one.

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Um and there was a resonance and

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interaction with two that made trying

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three a really [ __ ] good idea. And

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down the road what I found is that I

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could up to 15 or 20 people give them

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all they wanted of me in the one on one.

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Now, maybe it wasn't as much attention,

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but the way you work a group

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um nobody's really looking for me to

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come over and talk to them. Cuz it

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generally what I'm able to do in a group

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of 15 people is I'll be like, "Yeah,

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Greg, try it. Great. Great. What the

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[ __ ] is that, dude? Come on. You kidding

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me? That's how I showed you to squat.

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Let me show you what you're doing. Try

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it again." And so when I when it was

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your turn to get coached, people are

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like, "I think I've had enough

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attention." You'd ask a group of people,

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"Did you get enough individual

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attention?" They go, "Oh, sure. I had

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plenty, thank you." You know?

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They weren't really So if you if you sat

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with me in a classroom for an hour and I

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gave you a few atta boys and nothing

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else, that was like a perfect outcome.

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And and in the next phase of this, Greg,

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is you you intrinsic spontaneous

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occurrence that these clients for whom

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you had no corrections that were there

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three, four days a week and loving it,

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there's my there's my next generation of

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trainers. And those are the people that

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we got to help out at certs. It started

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very naturally, too. Like, you know,

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I've got I've got the heart of our crew

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on the road doing a seminar something

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cross country.

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I don't know who's going to open the gym

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in the morning. We turn to one of these

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one of these clients that's got keys

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anyways.

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Go, "Hey, how'd you like to take the

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class at 6:00 a.m. tomorrow?"

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Never had anyone turn me down on that.

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They're you're kidding. Oh, honor. Wow.

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And they would show up early and be in

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charge in a big way, you know? Really?

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So it's a it's a it's a very natural

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social phenomenon. And And about when

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what year was this

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90

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8 99.

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Yeah, let's go 99.

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2000.

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99 2000, right in there. I was I was in

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Santa Cruz and clearly at capacity as a

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trainer.

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And [music] go, "Hey, look watch me.

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Look at this. I can double up, triple

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up, quad up, quint up."

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And then those people, you know, you got

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you're working with five people when it

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was in Friday at 5:00 a.m.

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Uh it's done. They're going to bring in

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the sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, and

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10th person.

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