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>> most interested um
that you have [clears throat] a by the
most unique perspective on, probably the
only one. Um is
what was the inspiration for CrossFit?
I was a
I was a competitive gymnast
with a
uh
uh
obsessive uh fascination
with uh bicycles.
And I had discovered as a kid uh young
in my in my early teens that I could
with with uh dumbbell and barbells
um get stronger than any other gymnast I
knew.
And uh that was that was that was a uh
epic moment for me. And so I end up
swinging it with a bunch of gymnasts
that won't lift weights and don't ride
bikes.
People that lift weights that won't do
gymnastics or ride bikes. And a coterie
of bike riding friends that won't do
gymnastics or lift weights. And I knew I
knew a a a fair number of people that
were stronger than I was at weights that
I did weightlifting with, weight
training. I knew people that could ride
bikes better than I could. I knew people
that could that were better gymnasts
than I were. But if you were even
slightly better or even at my skill
level at any one of those three, I'd
crush you at the other two. Crush you.
And so the question kind of comes to a
young kid how fit is this guy? I mean,
what is it what is the cost of being
marginally a better gymnast than me if
you can't ride a bike without passing
out and you and you and your
weightlifting sucks, you're weaker than
my sister. I mean, where what price have
you paid for this expertise? And I I I
had the essence of that uh
uh
moral play, if you will, and and it
feels that way almost in the
physiological world for me. I had the
essence of that lesson
well ingrained with by the time I was 15
years old. I got that I had a
generalized
that you know, it was my dad's my dad's
dread was that I'd become a
jack-of-all-trades and a master of none.
And I think it struck me as like, well,
I think that's what I'm trying to do. It
actually It actually works, you know?
Why can't we be pretty damn good at
everything, especially for doing
everything?
And so and and so if you if you were
better than me even marginally at any
one of the others at any one of the
three items, I'd crush you at the other
three. But even more interesting, we
could go do something that none of us
had done. Like try jujitsu or or surf,
and I'm going to be even even have a a
more potent advantage there. In those
things that none of us had done. So
again, the question is, "Geez, what, you
know,
talk about cross training." And and
therein lies the essence of the CrossFit
notion. Um
for me
at the at at the first hearing of a
triathlon, bike run swim long, that's
not cross training.
There there there's there's they have an
enormous amount in common
physiologically. The movements mechanics
may be very different, but the metabolic
pathways are so [ __ ] identical that
you're you're deluding yourself to think
that getting out on your bike, running,
and swimming has you has you uh well
trained. That your breadth of adaptation
is anything other than that of a
specialist.
Um
and I want to I want to roll up on that.
One of the things that struck me that
was unique about CrossFit
um and this I
I I was I was told this was part of your
history is that CrossFit is you never
work out alone. You always do it in a
community.
Um what inspired that? This is easy. It
was the It was the realization that I'm
working 55 hours a week and uh
on one on one on ones.
Uh
and uh
and by
week's end, you know, I'm still training
7 days a week. And at the end of each
day one on ones one on one training
>> Yeah, one on one training. Private
training sessions with clients. And by
uh uh
day's end my my clients at 9:00 p.m.
aren't getting what the ones at 5:00
a.m. got.
Anywhere near.
And so and and yet I didn't want to pass
up business or or let people go. I
wanted to give everyone an opportunity
to get fit. And so I found myself in
this interesting position of
telling a 5:00 a.m. client that I got
great news for you. I'm going to I found
you a workout partner. And it's the the
good news is doubly compounded cuz it's
going to reduce your training rate.
You're paying me 75 bucks an hour, I'm
going to take you down to 50.
And uh
How
How were you able to do that?
>> I'm going to have two people in that
slot. And it and twice 50 is 100. I just
gave myself a $25 an hour raise. And and
>> Okay. And they they you know, they'd
half bite. They're like, "I don't know.
I'm not really short of money. I really
liked our gig." And I go, "Well, you got
to understand something, man. I'm
starving and got to pay the bills and I
need your help. And I think you're
really going to like this guy, this gal.
Just try it for me for a week. And if
you don't like it, um we'll get rid of
it." And and of everyone I did that to,
and there were there were scores of
them, I had one person that that's like,
"This ain't cool." And she made me train
her one on one uh three days a week for
years and years and years. And even she
would look out on the floor and hear
everyone laughing. "What are they
laughing at?" I go, "Well, they're
having a lot of fun cuz they really like
each other and they're all friends. And
but we have to get back to work, so quit
watching, you know?" She just She She
wanted to be in that group and couldn't
get herself to do it.
But uh the the motivation initially
was uh was uh uh
economic.
But the reality is that um I found that
I was imparting at least as good as
instruction uh two on one as I was one
on one.
Um and there was a resonance and
interaction with two that made trying
three a really [ __ ] good idea. And
down the road what I found is that I
could up to 15 or 20 people give them
all they wanted of me in the one on one.
Now, maybe it wasn't as much attention,
but the way you work a group
um nobody's really looking for me to
come over and talk to them. Cuz it
generally what I'm able to do in a group
of 15 people is I'll be like, "Yeah,
Greg, try it. Great. Great. What the
[ __ ] is that, dude? Come on. You kidding
me? That's how I showed you to squat.
Let me show you what you're doing. Try
it again." And so when I when it was
your turn to get coached, people are
like, "I think I've had enough
attention." You'd ask a group of people,
"Did you get enough individual
attention?" They go, "Oh, sure. I had
plenty, thank you." You know?
They weren't really So if you if you sat
with me in a classroom for an hour and I
gave you a few atta boys and nothing
else, that was like a perfect outcome.
And and in the next phase of this, Greg,
is you you intrinsic spontaneous
occurrence that these clients for whom
you had no corrections that were there
three, four days a week and loving it,
there's my there's my next generation of
trainers. And those are the people that
we got to help out at certs. It started
very naturally, too. Like, you know,
I've got I've got the heart of our crew
on the road doing a seminar something
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cross country.
I don't know who's going to open the gym
in the morning. We turn to one of these
one of these clients that's got keys
anyways.
Go, "Hey, how'd you like to take the
class at 6:00 a.m. tomorrow?"
Never had anyone turn me down on that.
They're you're kidding. Oh, honor. Wow.
And they would show up early and be in
charge in a big way, you know? Really?
So it's a it's a it's a very natural
social phenomenon. And And about when
what year was this
90
8 99.
Yeah, let's go 99.
2000.
99 2000, right in there. I was I was in
Santa Cruz and clearly at capacity as a
trainer.
And [music] go, "Hey, look watch me.
Look at this. I can double up, triple
up, quad up, quint up."
And then those people, you know, you got
you're working with five people when it
was in Friday at 5:00 a.m.
Uh it's done. They're going to bring in
the sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, and
10th person.
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