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>> Who? Me?

[laughter]

>> Sorry. I didn't know you were talking

talking to one of

>> There's only three of us in here. Yeah.

Are there [laughter]

>> I don't know, dude.

>> The glasses, man. What's the new

sophisticated look?

>> Yeah, I got them.

>> What's going on? I I I see I see you got

them. Yeah, they're great, man. My buddy

Joseph gave it gave them to me. I got

them from him.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. And they're popping. And they

help, too.

>> Yeah. Are you losing your vision?

>> I don't think so. But I think these just

make it even better.

>> Okay. Let me see. Let me try them. See

how bad your eyes are.

>> Try them on, big dog.

>> Oh, barely.

>> I could get them weighted, too, so you

could do a neck workout when you have

them on.

>> Why would you do that? This is uh God, I

can't I can't tell the difference.

Are you sure these are real?

>> I think they are.

>> I don't think these are real glasses,

dog.

>> Let me see. Try. Can

>> I don't think they Jamie, put these on.

I don't. First of all, they're smeared

as [ __ ]

>> Yeah. Somehow they keep getting grease

on them, dude. All I've done

>> You got greasy [ __ ] fingers and you

keep touching them. You're not supposed

to. Look at you. You're rubbing your

head. You're rubbing your greasy face.

>> I don't even go in the kitchen.

>> You don't need grease. You don't need to

go in the kitchen for grease. Barely

tell the difference. Right.

>> It's doing something, but

>> barely. Barely. This is psychological.

>> It's like it's if it's if you're 20 if

you're not 2020, you're 2025.

>> These are these are psychological, dog.

>> You really You don't think they're good?

>> No. No. I'm No. What I'm saying? I mean,

they're fine, but they're psych,

right? Like I've been reading too much.

>> Um they're uh I think it's a

psychological thing.

>> Yeah, it could be.

>> You got to believe that they make you

see better.

>> My vision's okay. It's not as good as it

was when I was young.

>> I got to read the packaging again. But

it's a lot better than it used to be. I

started using red light, a red light

bed. Makes a giant difference, man. Huge

difference. Yeah. I don't need reading

glasses anymore. I needed reading

glasses for a while. Like look at my

phone. Like it was fine text. I don't

read it. I don't need it at all anymore.

>> And that's because of the red light.

>> Oh yeah. 100%.

>> Yeah. Red light therapy and certain

vitamins like luteine. There's a few

different There's a company called Pure

Encapsulations.

They make a formulation called macular

support and I I take that stuff. But

those two things for sure have had a a

big impact. I think it's the red light

though more than anything. That was the

big that's the big factor.

>> I've been doing sauna and I've been

getting in there.

>> It feels good. I feel like a little

dumpling when I get out of there.

>> Yeah, it's good. Yeah.

>> Right.

>> Yeah, it feels good. Yeah.

>> Get that body all heated up and

everything just kind of flows out of

you. I saw a protocol of what you're

supposed to do before you get in there

and I've never done any of these things,

but it's like how much water you're

supposed to drink before you go in.

[snorts]

>> [ __ ] all that. 45 minutes you're

supposed to go you're supposed to drink

uh like a liter of water with

electrolytes and some magnesium.

>> I don't know. Some guy made this. That's

the problem. Like everybody's an online

guru.

>> Yeah. Well, everybody everything they

watch it's like they think you're trying

to get in the Olympics. It's like [ __ ]

I'm just trying to [ __ ] get to work.

[laughter] You know what I'm saying?

[ __ ] I'm just trying to [ __ ]

>> I just want to feel a little bit better.

>> Yeah. I'm just trying make it out of my

garage.

>> Give me an edge. giving an edge on this

cold, hard world.

>> Yeah, that's the only thing, man.

>> That's all I'm looking for.

>> But good to see you, dude.

>> Good to see you always, my friend.

>> I'm glad you're still alive.

>> You, too. I'm glad you're still alive,

too.

>> Amen.

>> We've both been interviewing dangerous

people.

>> Have we, you think?

>> Uh, yeah. Yeah, definitely.

>> You really have. [laughter]

>> Who have I interviewed that you have it?

It's more dangerous.

>> Oh, I don't That's a good question.

I mean, I did I don't Yeah. I don't

think I have people that's that

dangerous. Maybe Thomas Massie.

>> Oh, do you have him on?

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. They all hate him right now. It's

uh this is a sad thing about both

political parties, not just the the

right, but the left, too, is they decide

that they're going to gang up on someone

for not towing the line.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, like whatever happened to

having different opinions? whatever

happened to having different

perspectives and being able to argue

your perspective.

>> But then they have these goofy ass

bills, which by the way, they just

[ __ ] they slipped something into this

last bill that uh Mitch McConnell guy

did, I believe. Check make sure that he

did it. The hemp thing.

They slipped this thing in where you can

no longer buy CBD with like it has to be

like the lowest trace amount of THC in

it

>> which is for a like like my wife's mom

you know she's an older lady and she

takes CBD for pain for joints and stuff

like that.

>> Does she smoke it or she does the

ointment?

>> No, she takes like uh oil like CBD oil.

>> Yeah. He snuck in [ __ ] dead turtle.

He's a leaning proponent of closing a

2018 Farm Bill loophole allowing

intoxicating THC to be sold in low

doses. See, but he's got a couple of

[ __ ] milligrams in his neck. Look at

that [ __ ]

>> He's got something going on. They

definitely got him medicated. There

ain't no way that guy's sleeping without

help. Everybody hates him.

>> It looks like he hit a joint. It won't

leave him alone.

>> Go back up [laughter] and show him.

>> Like took an edible. He like Joey Diaz

dosed him.

>> He looks like he's on the church. He's

on the church of what's happening now.

And Joey Diaz sucker

>> Joey Diaz and Lee are just staring at

him. H Yeah. Um they gotta change that.

That's uh really bad.

>> Why is it bad? Because of what they

>> Because for people that are getting

benefits from CBD, the the THC along

with the CBD. And by the way, we're

talking super super low amounts. But

there's something about how CBD and THC

work in a synergistic way for people

that are in a lot of pain. Um, I know a

lot of people, like I said, my wife's

mom, she says the stuff with the THC in

it works better and it's not getting her

high. Like, this is the

misunderstanding. This stuff's not going

to get you high, but it what it will do

is it helps with anxiety for a lot of

people. It definitely reduces

inflammation and uh for people that have

like joint pain like my friend Dave

Foley,

>> Dave Foley from News Radio, kids in the

hall, Dave Foley, awesome guy. Uh Dave

had like pretty severe arthritis in his

hands like where, you know, he was

really having a hard time opening his

hands. Started taking CBD oil.

>> Did he open a jar or anything like that?

You think? Was it hard?

>> He was in pain, man. It was it was bad.

Um but now it's gone and it's gone

because of CBD. It's really effective,

man. It's really effective. And so what

they're saying that they don't want you

to Why Why are they doing that? Cuz they

want to control it.

>> It's the alcohol lobby. It's the same

people that are trying to keep um

marijuana illegal in Texas. It's the

alcohol lobby. This is the fact. The

fact is when people start smoking weed,

they they drink less.

>> And you know, I mean, it could be

because they just decided to get high

and not get drunk, or it could be that

they smoke pot and they get a little

paranoid and they go, "Oh my god, why am

I poisoning myself 5 days a week?" Well,

a lot of people now I feel like are just

doing like cocaine and saunas. It seems

like

>> I don't think they're doing those

together. Maybe in your neighborhood.

[laughter]

>> Not in our area.

>> Maybe it's your town.

>> I want my neighbors to know that.

>> Maybe your neighbors are coming over

their underwear with a [ __ ] baggie.

[laughter]

Let's go, Theo. Let's go. Let's get get

that [ __ ] up to 185. Let's [laughter]

go. There's a place up ahead.

>> Throw that water on them rocks. I'm

ready. I want my [snorts] nasal cavity

to be opened wide.

Get that lucalyptus in the air,

[laughter]

bro. Dude, the best is Yeah. If you have

if you have a good brother or somebody,

they say eucalyptus, bro.

>> Eucalyptus. Get the eucalyptus in the

air.

>> But yeah, I don't know if a lot of

people are even drinking that much

anymore. Do you think

>> lot less people are drinking, including

me. But I did have a drink the other

night before I went on stage and I felt

great. Woo! I haven't done that in a

while. I had a little whiskey before I

went on stage. But I gave up on drinking

entirely for many months. I forget how

many months, but it was quite a while

where I didn't have a sip of alcohol and

I felt way better. You did?

>> Yeah. But I don't think there's anything

wrong with moderation. You know, like uh

when I was in uh New York, I went to

this place, Teresi. Oh my god.

>> For MSG, you mean for for the pipes just

now?

>> Oh my god. There's this Italian

restaurant in New York City called

Teresi.

It's so good.

>> Well, remember that place you took me

to?

>> Oh, yeah. Ganos in Vegas. Oh, so good.

>> Thank god the the little

>> Oh, bro. All handmade pasta at Gaitanos,

man.

>> What was that little thing? It's like a

little square. Looks like

>> raviolis. Oh my god. Right.

>> Like a shingle fell off the roof of

heaven and landed in.

>> Yeah. With that sauce just perfect soft.

>> And Gaitanos is uh like a lot of it.

It's It's like the best ones get their

flour from Italy cuz it doesn't [ __ ]

with your stomach. Our flour is all

messed up, man. Our wheat's messed up.

>> Oh yeah. A lot of our wheat's from

Memphis, dude. A lot of our wheat has

like Yeah.

>> All kinds of pesticides on it.

A lot of it has.

>> Yeah. A lot of it has guns. It is like

[ __ ] bullet holes in our wheat.

>> You could test positive for coke just

from that. Just from eating wheat, just

from having bread.

>> Do you know how many dollar bills test

positive for coke? It's some crazy

number.

>> Yeah. I could imagine that that's

probably true. This guy tests positive.

Huh?

>> Is that your stepdad?

>> No, that's Art Bell.

>> You don't know who Art Bell is? Coast to

Coast with Art Bell from the Kingdom of

Nigh.

>> Yeah. Perup Nevada. That's him.

>> Yeah, that's Art. He's the godfather of

fun conspiracies.

>> Yes. He's like UFOs,

>> the radio station, you could listen at

night,

>> dude. He was my nighttime jam coming

home from the comedy store.

>> I could see that

>> always cuz you're coming home from the

comedy store, it's like, you know, 1:00

in the morning and the art coast to

coast with Art Bell is on. The guy calls

up, "At I'm a time traveler." [laughter]

>> HE HAD A TIME traveler hotline.

>> Yes, he did.

>> He was you. He was you, you freak. How

many time travelers you've had in here?

Probably a couple.

>> Oh, yeah. At least one. A couple that

probably can't find their way home to

>> at least one. I've had at least one

time.

>> No, dude. That's you. I could totally

picture it now. You like you get a car

with some speakers in it and you're the

only one driving around listening to Art

>> Bell. Oh, there's a lot of people

listening. He was really popular.

>> Oh, no. I know how popular he was. But I

mean, at a level where you would bump it

with bass like you loved it,

>> right, right? Yeah. I loved it. I loved

it. You know, it's like the perfect

stuff to occupy your mind coming home

from the comedy store because

occasionally it was like real [ __ ] Like

occasionally he'd have some people

talking about some really fascinating

things, you know, like asteroid impacts

and and he had Terrence McKenna on a few

times. He had a lot of interesting

people. But then every now and then he

would mix it up with a dude who says

he's a werewolf. [laughter]

>> And Art would never go, "Man, you ain't

a werewolf." He would go, "Interesting.

Tell me more." [laughter]

He let dudes talk.

>> He let dudes say the most ridiculous

[ __ ] It was [ __ ] great.

>> I got to do his show once. I got it. I

did it. Yeah, I did it when

>> I did it when it was on the radio or on

the internet rather. He wasn't on the

radio anymore. He had an internet uh

radio show for a while.

>> Did he know who you were at that point

or No.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Luckily, but uh to me it was

like [ __ ] yeah. It's like a few things

in my life where when I did them I was

like yes, you know, that was a big one.

I hung up the phone. I had a giant

[ __ ] smile on my face.

>> I just did the Art Bell show, son.

>> Dude, that's so cool that that's him. I

can't tell if I can see him better with

or without these on.

>> I think it's psychological. I'm telling

you, those glasses don't do a damn

thing. They don't even change the shape

of your face. You know how sometimes

people put them on and I always go, "How

blind is this motherfucker?" And I'll

look to the side and I can see like

their face cakes in like [laughter] like

a half a foot because they got giant

magnifying glasses over their eyeballs.

But with you, it looks exactly the same.

The line of your face doesn't change at

all when you turn side to side. I think

they're [ __ ] with you. I think they

think you're crazy and they're like,

"His eyes are perfect. Just give him

some clear lenses." You're like, "Yeah,

I think I think this works. I think I

see better than these."

>> I think Y'all got a vape pen? [laughter]

>> Yeah.

Let me hit that vape, homie. There is

something about when uh people wear

them, they look smarter.

>> Oh, for sure, dude. My friend was

wearing them the other day. This girl,

and I was like, "Dang, this girl is

>> she must be a genius."

>> Yeah.

>> Hot secretary or hot professor. Hot lady

professor.

>> Let me do some homework up in them

undies. That's what I was thinking.

>> [laughter]

>> Yeah,

let me get up in that study hall, baby

girl.

>> Let me get extra credit points. Let's

go.

>> Yeah, dude.

>> But if you're a dumb dude with glasses,

that's a bad look.

>> Cuz not only are you blind, but you're

[ __ ] stupid, too.

>> It was like Stephen Avery's cousin, that

little fellow that stood by the like was

grilling hot dogs on that burn barrel in

the uh remember when they when they

>> Who's Stephen Avery?

>> The um

>> Who's Stephen Avery?

>> Describe him. the murders from the the

like Netflix thing from the I think it

was a pandemic, wasn't it?

>> Making a murder. Was that him?

>> Yeah,

>> I can't remember.

>> What was his case?

>> He was a murderer. Well, they said he

was. Was he the Yes, he was a murderer.

>> He's in jail for it.

>> He's in jail for it. And he had his

little cousin.

>> Oh, this is the guy that's a little

mentally challenged. Yeah, I read some

stuff.

>> And his little cousin, that's him. Has

shades on.

>> Brendan Dassy B Dassy,

>> who's actually We did a little bit of

pen paling with him. tried to. Anyway,

>> what do they think about this? Do they

think that

>> I think he did it. I think there was

like I I believe people said that the

Netflix thing got like edited strange

and left stuff out that

>> that's the thing. You can't tell what's

real anymore. Who knows?

>> Well, selective editing is crazy. It's

crazy that they still do that.

>> Well, everything's crazy right now.

>> I know.

>> I mean, I feel like this is the year. Do

you feel like this is the year that um

people realize that like ne both of the

neither side of the government is

working for us? Is that a weird thing to

say?

>> Well, it's true. It's pretty obvious

that it's true. Okay. They're all

working for the people that got them in.

So, no matter what they even if they're

good people that want to do well for

you, their obligations when they get in

there are the people that help them get

in there. They're the campaign

contributors. to the military-industrial

complex, the military contractors, the

big money, big money banks, big money.

That's what this all this government

shutdown [ __ ] was all about, man. It's

all about healthcare, right? So, it's

all about how much money is getting

funneled through these corporations. If

you really think that what they're

trying to do is make sure that people

get health care, you're [ __ ] naive.

>> Yeah, you're ridiculous.

>> What they're doing is they are

protecting some kind of slush fund. If

somebody digs into this and finds out

where that money's going and finds out

how this money's distributed, it'll make

more sense because there ain't a [ __ ]

chance in hell that they're keeping the

government shut down to protect your

health.

>> Yeah.

>> There's not a chance. There's not a

chance they're shutting down the [ __ ]

air traffic controllers. [laughter]

Not a chance. They're shutting down NASA

cuz they're worried about you getting

the flu. That [ __ ] is not happening.

That's not what's going on.

>> But I think everybody's starting to

realize that. Dude, I went to the post

office. Have you been to the post office

recently?

>> I have not.

>> Okay.

>> Not since I voted. That was the last

time I was at the post office.

>> Okay. Well, it's over. So, [laughter]

if you want to know what the post office

is like, dude, I went I'm not even

joking. I went to the the closest branch

near me in Nashville. There was two

birds. There was two crows in there.

Two. One of them was a crow. Definitely.

One of them was a pretty big bird, and I

thought it was a crow, but he had some

discoloration or whatever. So, maybe

like a mulatto crow or mixed crow or

something. I don't know.

>> Okay. f pulling a [ __ ] like fighting

over a [ __ ] box in there and there's

a lady um kind of like a darker woman in

there and she's spraying [ __ ] Lysol

trying to get them out of the [ __ ]

post office. I was like

>> Lysol.

>> Yeah. Or like a fabuloso like a

[laughter]

cleaning spray like a disinfectant.

>> Oh, okay. Yeah, got it.

>> Like she's standing on a little

stepladder trying to [ __ ] get these

two birds who were fighting over a

[ __ ] package. I was like we're

[ __ ]

>> We're [ __ ] man. That's and that's

that's the government, right? That's

biblical.

>> Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it seems like a

Stephen King outtake, you know?

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> But I'm like, this is where we are. This

is

>> this is how like everything's privatized

now. It's a wrap.

>> Do you feel like it's a wrap? Like, I've

been thinking for years that America

just feels like a Shell company, like a

Shell LLC.

>> Here's the thing about it being

privatized. Some things probably should

be privatized because they work better.

>> Okay. They were like FedEx came along,

UPS came along, so those came along.

>> But the post office still does a good

job, man. You know, the

>> I'm going to disagree with that. I'm

sorry. I never disagree with you. I

don't think

>> the post office is the only people that

are sending sending letters for you for

like 30 cents or whatever it costs. And

then the post office are the only way

that you could ship chickens, live

chicks, like little baby chicks. They

have to do it through the post office

because they know what to do and they

keep them alive. They know they're

chicks.

>> Oh, that's nice. I didn't know that. All

the we've had chickens, you know, and

every chicken we get when we get them,

they're baby chicks

>> and they come in the mail.

>> They get them through the post office.

Post office delivers them.

>> Can you hear the package like that? It's

like

>> Yeah, bro. The post office it works.

It's not perfect because it's the

government and there's no government

programs that are perfect. You know,

>> it doesn't work that good anymore,

though. I think it's [laughter]

it's gotten so bad, dude.

>> The post office

>> maybe,

>> bro. It's gotten bad. I sent my niece a

birthday card, dude. She never got it.

She never got it. It had money. It's

gone. It's gone. She'll never get it.

Bro, you know what always? Nobody's

getting anything.

>> The videos of these people dropping off

UPS packages. They take a picture of the

package and then they steal the package.

[laughter]

>> I've seen that. I've seen videos of

that. I think people are kind of hip to

what ring cameras could do. But, bro,

there was a quite a while where people

were doing some really [ __ ] horrible

[ __ ] right in front of those cameras cuz

they didn't know.

>> They didn't know. You can't be just

stealing people's packages after you

drop them off like the [ __ ] UPS

driver, you know?

>> It's a [ __ ] wild time. a lot of

videos of that man. They put him down,

take a picture, and they pick him up,

take him back to the truck

>> and take him back,

>> and then the camera's like, "Hey, [ __ ]

face."

>> Yeah. [laughter]

>> Hey, [ __ ]

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>> Listen man,

>> they should have different like ring

camera like a voice like this is Mr. T.

You need to bring that package back,

sucker.

>> That is one of the dirtiest things.

Porch pirates. People that are just

stealing [ __ ] off your porch. That

>> to get that close to somebody's house to

be right there. Yeah,

>> that's one thing I like about living in

a state where there is the ability to

express something.

>> You're talking about guns

>> bulletarily. That's how I like to say

[laughter] it.

There's the ability to express something

bullarily to somebody if you disagree if

their behavior see is illegal.

>> Yeah. You got to be careful about what

that though the laws are different in

different places. Like even if someone's

stealing something, you're not allowed

to kill them.

>> Yeah. Um, a guy just got in trouble

because some dudes, I think there was

three dudes, broke into his garage and

he uh went into his garage and they went

after him and he shot them and he killed

one of them and now they're bringing him

up for manslaughter cuz I guess they're

saying he didn't have to shoot them. He

could have just scared them or he didn't

have to kill them. He could have just

retreated back into his home. Like in

California, they're [clears throat]

literally telling

>> stuff like a like a

>> I was just scared of them with a gun, I

guess.

>> I guess. But like you don't know what

they have. You don't know what's going

on. These are split-second decisions

you're making with your life in danger.

And then if you have a wife and

children, bro, you're going to shoot

first and ask questions later. You're

not going to make a mistake that's going

to have your your kids killed.

>> Yeah. You can't be like, "Are you scared

or what?" You can't say that kind of

[ __ ]

>> No, bro. It's scary. Someone's breaking

into your home. You have no idea what

they have. If you have no idea if

they're there to kill you, if you no

idea they're there to rob you, if

they're going to duct tape you and

torture you for a week, you don't know

what the [ __ ] is going on. And if you

have a gun, you're most likely going to

use it and you're going to shoot them.

And the fact that these people broke

into his house, they were committing a

crime in defending his property and

maybe his life. He's getting charged

with manslaughter. That's that's

ridiculous. This is the This is the

problem with liberal politics.

>> [clears throat]

>> And this is where I would get really

confused because I'm like, I don't know

what they're trying to do. But if I was

going to try to destroy civilization,

that's how I would do it.

>> Yeah.

>> I would keep keep letting violent people

out, keep saying it's racist to keep

them in jail, keep saying, you know,

they're a victim of systematic racism

and keep and just like let the violent

people stay being violent, and then when

people defend themselves, lock them up,

have everybody scared. Like, if you

wanted to destroy society, you would do

it exactly this way. And I don't

understand that. I don't understand.

Like it's

I understand being a kind, compassionate

person doesn't believe in gun violence.

Absolutely. But if that's the case, like

there's no better deterrent to gun

violence than someone who has a gun and

you can't get to their house because

they'll [ __ ] shoot you. Okay? Like

that's that's a really good deterrent.

Unless you're going to have police

everywhere and you don't. So like, who's

going to protect people from bad people?

If you're going to admit that bad people

exist? If you want to stop bad people

from happening, that's a conversation

I'd love to have. That's a real

conversation. Like, let's figure out how

to clean up a lot of these neighborhoods

and figure out what's causing all these

problems.

>> But nobody wants to do that or it would

have been or would have been done by now

at this point. People just want to kind

of keep these higher powers. They know

what they're doing. It just starts to

feel like the experiment, like we're

just really seeing the experiment, you

know? It's almost like say you were

playing the game Mario or something and

one day Mario instead of just going this

way on the screen, he [ __ ] turns and

looks at you

>> and he's like, "I see what you're

doing." That's what it feels like we are

right now. Like we're we're looking

right

>> at the people controlling everything and

like

>> Yeah.

>> Oh,

>> that's all because of the internet, dog.

>> But [clears throat] it feels like

>> if it wasn't for the internet, no one

would be looking because we wouldn't be

getting these conversations,

>> right? We'd still be we'd still be

people would still be disillusioned.

>> You'd be getting CNN. You'd be getting

some horseshit version of what's

actually going on. But because the

internet and real independent

journalists and and people that are

breaking things down, you start to go,

"Wait a minute. What the [ __ ] is going

on?"

>> Yeah.

>> Who is who is doing this? Why are you

doing it?

>> Want some coffee, dog?

>> Can I have some?

>> [ __ ] yeah. Of course you can.

>> Oh, thanks, buddy.

>> Um

>> Yeah, man.

>> I mean, we're the first generation that

has had Cheers, my brother. Cheers, man.

Good to see you, dude.

>> Good to see you always.

>> Really am excited to see you.

>> I'm excited to see you, too. Always.

[clears throat]

>> And I'm excited to see you a little

clearer than I did.

>> I don't think you are. I think it's I

think they got you. I think they're

[ __ ] with you, man. I think they're

giving you placeos, too.

>> Really?

>> Yeah. I think they gave you a Let me

take some whatever pills they give you.

Let's see what happens.

>> No, these are 15s. I think these are

good.

>> 15s. What does that mean?

>> I don't know. Oh, this

you fogged up.

>> [laughter]

>> You fogged up from the coffee. Gotcha.

>> You [ __ ] gave me this molten coffee,

dude.

>> Black rifle in the house.

>> Is it

>> always? That's all we drink,

>> dude. I went uh Oh, yeah. Well, there's

Yeah, I'm just at the the journalism

now. I can't I know this is too hot for

me right now.

>> It's not that hot. Look,

>> I'm going to need glasses for my tongue

after I drink this, dude.

>> No, it's not that hot. No, no, it's an

illusion. It's warm.

>> It's decently hot, you know? Like nice.

Nice.

>> Yeah. Refreshing.

>> Yeah, like refreshing. Not like ouchie.

Why can't Starbucks figure that out?

>> Because it I don't even think that's

coffee anymore. It's almost become like

McDonald's. It's just a It's a

>> It's burnt.

>> It's a taste. It's just a thing.

>> I drink black coffee. That's what I

drink. That's what I like. I got into it

a while ago. Like Rick Ross, bro. It's

like Rick Ross.

>> You know what I got into it, Jamie?

Remember when we had that guy Peter

Giuliani on that was the coffee

connoisseur? That got me into I started

drinking black coffee from then on. That

was a long time ago. At least 10 years

ago, right?

>> I had a real coffee connoisseur on.

Yeah. cuz I wanted to know all about

coffee.

>> Samo kind of.

>> Yeah, man. Dude, it's f He brought in a

bunch of different coffees. We were

tasting like these Ethiopian blends that

almost was like lemony.

>> He was like, "You taste the hints of

lemon?" I'm like, "I do."

>> Yeah.

>> Did you know all coffee comes from

Ethiopia?

>> Uh-uh.

>> Yes.

>> Some of it comes from some of it comes I

know from um there's Kona coffee, isn't

there?

>> Right. But it all originated in

Ethiopia. That's where the plant

originated.

>> Oh, wow.

>> Yeah. So, they moved it into South

America. also like they started making

it in Colombia. They make it in Hawaii

has bombdiggity coffee. Kona coffee is

some of the best coffee in the world. I

guess probably the soil like something

about the in Hawaii. If you if I [ __ ]

drink my own piss in Hawaii, I'm still

[laughter] it's a little better than if

I'm drinking it in [ __ ] outside of

Akran. You know what I'm saying?

>> A smoke stacks in the background. Can't

be drinking a liter of piss before you

get in the sauna with your neighbor.

[laughter]

>> Yeah. Or I get a little bag for my for

my

>> Someone's got a urine therapy protocol

that you have to take with your cocaine.

>> Dude. Yeah, bro. Even a hot batch of

piss in Hawaii tastes way better.

>> That's so true. But I drink it in

America. Like I I used to order cone of

coffee.

>> Yeah. [snorts] But yeah, I mean

>> before I went Black Rifle exclusive.

>> Yeah. Well, I met the guy from Black.

He's a good friend of mine.

>> Nice guy.

>> I love him to death.

>> Yeah. He took me around whenever

whenever I was there.

>> He's one of my absolute favorite people.

Oh, I'm wearing one of his shirts. Look

at that dog.

>> He treated me super well, dude. He's the

best,

>> dude. Somebody Oh, Candace Owens sent me

that thing. It was a um

>> You got notes.

>> She sent I just

>> You brought notes.

>> There's things I wanted to talk about. I

just want to forget [laughter] them.

>> Okay.

>> My my [clears throat]

It's been hard for me to remember stuff.

>> Okay.

>> So,

>> I'll help you out.

>> You will?

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> You get some Alpha Brain. Take some.

Have you ever Do you ever take vitamins

for your brain?

>> Nope.

>> It works.

>> I will take some.

>> Yeah. You should there's a bunch of

different kinds [clears throat] and you

should try what you like. Um but another

real good one is um this company uh

Neuro Gum. They make neuro gum and

neuromint.

>> I've heard you talk about it.

>> That's really good. There's a one called

True Brain. They make like a little

shot. That's really good.

>> Magic Mind I know has one that I think

is pretty good.

>> That's a different one. That's a

different kind. They use mushrooms, but

that's a good one, too.

>> I think synergistically they would all

work well together. But there's legit

vitamins that work on your brain.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. that work on your memory.

>> Yeah. I wanted Yeah. [clears throat]

>> Yeah. I'll probably I would like to

>> I'll give you some before we leave. I

have some Alpha Brain Black Label around

here somewhere. I definitely have a few

bottles in the kitchen, but that's the

best. Alpha Brain. I've tried them all.

Even though I know I'm associated with

Alpha with on it, and I'm probably

lying. I'm not this I I tell you about

all the other ones. I don't make a penny

off of them, but Alphabrain I think is

the best one. It's the most effective

>> and it's the the only one that I know of

that did two double blind placeboc

controlled studies with the Boston

Center for Memory

>> Alpha Brain.

>> Yeah. So, we did that because a lot of

people were saying it was snake oil.

>> The Boston Center for Memory. Like, how

many UCLA ass

[laughter] in 2001? You know

>> what year did the Socks make it into the

series?

>> Dude, one time I was going into a show.

[clears throat] We were outside of B. We

had a show outside of Boston. It's like

a theater. It's like 15, 20 minutes

away. Um, and I'm walking in. I'm

walking in late. Everybody's already in

there. I think the show had started. And

so I'm coming in and a guy and his wife

are walking by with pizza. They're

heading in. And the guy's like, "Dothy,

give him a [ __ ] pizza. The guy's

starving. He's late for work." And I'm

like, "I'm fine." And like, and first of

all, why don't you just give me your

pizza, dude? He's like, Dorothy, this

kind of like kind of big back lady. She

said that is muffling down a piece of

pizza, dude.

>> He was trying to give get you to give

her pizza. his wife to give me her

pizza. I'm like,

>> but not his pizza. Interesting. That's a

bad relationship.

>> He's like, "Don't you see the guy's he's

running late for work?"

>> He's trying to tell his wife he's fat

and he's doing it a subtle way.

>> Well, he was using me. So, I'm like,

"Dothy, I'm fine." You know?

>> Yeah, he was using you,

>> but it was just like a like just Boston

thing [clears throat]

>> or he was just trying to have some

conversation. It might have been that.

Maybe we're looking into it too much.

[snorts]

>> Dude, I had a dream you were an EMT,

dude. Have you ever had that?

>> Really? You had a dream I was an EMT?

>> Yeah. And I've had it two times

>> that really like I was like tending to

car accidents and stuff.

>> Yeah.

>> Really?

>> Mhm. And I think it was in Boston. I

think that's what even made me think

about it.

>> I could have gone down that route in

life maybe if things had been different.

That's possible.

>> I could have saw that.

>> That [snorts] could have happened. I

almost joined the army when I was uh 18

for their taekwondo team. There was a

dude, God, I think his name was Clay

Barber. Um he was one of the national

competitors that I I looked up to uh

when I was on my way up and he was uh in

the army and he had uh like the army

paid him to train and I was like oh [ __ ]

you could join the army and they'll pay

you to compete you know because they had

an army boxing team like I believe Ray

Mercer was on the army boxing team when

he fought in the Olympics and won the

gold medal.

>> Do you have to be but do you also have

like do you have to do service as well?

>> Is that him? No, he was a a black guy.

>> Oh.

>> Oh, there's that. See the T window? So,

it says right there to the right.

>> Yeah, the the one with the right where

it says his name right there. Click on

that.

>> Which one you looking at?

>> The one that your cursor is over, dog.

>> Clay Barber. Right there. Yeah. So, he

was really good in like uh I guess it

was probably like 86

or Yeah. Somewhere around I was 18, so

it had to be 85 or 86. Oo, baby girl.

>> But that that's the dude right there. He

was an elite um national competitor in

my weight class.

>> He'll kick a [ __ ] whisper out of your

mouth. That dude's a gangster, huh?

>> Yeah, he was really good. Um but he was

competing for the Army team. And so I

was like, maybe I should join the army.

And then I thought about I was like, I

don't want to get shot. Like what am I

doing? Like I I don't trust anybody.

You're

>> Did you try on the clothes at home or

anything? Did you do anything?

>> No, I didn't try on the clothes. I

saluted the mirror in the mirror a

couple times.

>> I'm like, no, we're good.

>> Yeah, dude. Yeah. I I guess I don't know

if I could see you being in the in the

army, but yeah, it was just a dream. It

was just I think it was like you

honestly I think it was like you and

Gogggins I think were maybe like EMTs or

whatever.

>> That sounds like something Gogggins

would do.

>> But y'all did not [ __ ] you guys did

not deal with anybody's [ __ ] Like

you guys showed up and you were like get

the [ __ ] up. [laughter]

>> You're like what the you [ __ ] [ __ ]

I think I don't even think you had any

like I don't think you had even a step.

You had like a whistle like [ __ ]

[laughter]

You know what Gogggins does that a lot

of people don't know about? He smoke

jumps.

>> Oh, really?

>> Yeah. Like for smoke and play high

school basketball.

>> That's very different. It's very

different. He he parachutes into fires.

>> Oh, yeah. That's not it.

>> Like in Canada

>> for fun.

>> Uh because it's hard.

>> Oh,

>> literally. But because it's hard to do.

Dude's worth like $30 million. He jumps

out of [ __ ] planes with parachutes

and and he sent me a photo uh of a giant

ass [ __ ] grizzly track. This they

they landed in Canada at this place and

right where they landed to fight these

fires was like I mean like a grizzly

track

>> and he was like wish me luck. [laughter]

>> I was like dude get the [ __ ] out of

there. You see that track? Get the [ __ ]

out of there. That's a,00B

wild dog.

>> Wow. And he just does it cuz he wants

it.

>> Cuz it's hard to do.

>> You're landing just in the smoke.

>> Yeah.

>> Now, when you get in there, do they have

a plan of where you're going? Is it

fire? It's firemen and fire women in

there.

>> I Well, there's a lot of different tasks

that they do, but one of them is you're

digging a fire break. So, you're dig

Like a lot of what happens is embers

land on the ground and then that starts

a fire, right? So, what they do is

they'll they'll clear the ground for a

wide area where the fire is coming. So,

the fire's on its way. They'll get ahead

of the fire and then they'll clear a

giant path on the ground.

>> Baby girl, that would scare me.

>> It's scary.

>> That would scare me.

>> Guys die. I mean, they 100% they get

trapped and they die. The wind shifts,

>> you know, things sometimes things are

unpredictable.

>> Um, but he does it just cuz it's hard.

He's so crazy. Does he have to sign a

con? He must have to sign something,

huh,

>> bro? I don't know what he does. He

doesn't I bet he doesn't even tell him

he's David Gogggins. [laughter] He just

shows up. I'm telling you, man. He's

He's a different cat. Like, he's he's

the real deal. Like, he's not pretending

to do all these things,

>> right?

>> You've seen those videos where he takes

UFC fighters on workouts

>> and they're dying. Like, he took Israel

Adosana. Israel Adosagna, two-time

middleweight [ __ ] champion of

the world, one of the best to ever do

it. Elite athlete. dying. I mean, d

couldn't keep up. Gogggins was talking

to him like, "Come on, son. Keep going."

He's like, he's throwing up in a garbage

can. Like, no [ __ ] It's crazy to

watch cuz you realize like the level of

conditioning this guy has. He's 50 years

old. He's not doing it for any reason.

Like, he's not getting ready for the

World Series. He's not in the Super

Bowl.

>> What do you think he's proven it to

himself?

>> You would have to ask him. I mean,

>> he says he's learning things. I'm

downloading lessons like like he's just

he's that guy, man. Like

>> there's a lot of What is that?

>> I found the track. Sorry.

>> What is it?

>> The tracks. The Grizzly tracks.

>> Oh, show me. Show me. I sent it to you,

right?

>> Yeah, it's on my

>> Put the headphones on. All right, check

this out.

>> Hang on one second. [snorts]

>> Show me.

[laughter]

>> Remember that song?

>> Yeah.

Yeah.

>> The cure.

>> The cure. Yeah, they were good. They

passed away. Huh?

>> Did they?

>> I think before they Yeah.

>> I don't think Well, there's multiple

members. Did that guy pass away? The

lead singer of the cures. The cure

rather.

>> What's the matter, Jamie?

>> Well, I had it on my phone. I didn't

have it on my computer.

>> Yeah. And I jumped the gun.

>> Do it. But

>> dude, if you were

>> Why don't you send it to me and I'll

send it to you.

[laughter] And you'll have it on your

computer.

>> I found it on the [snorts]

>> Dude, if you were an EMT, that'd be

sick, huh?

>> I I think it's a bummer, man.

>> I don't even think you'd get with a

vehicle. You'd pull up and be like, get

the [ __ ] up. [laughter] You know,

>> I'd probably be

>> and then Gogggins would go help him.

[laughter]

Gogggin, get the [ __ ] off, you little

[ __ ]

>> Don't know how to make this.

>> Well, just send it to me and I'll send

it to you.

>> I have it. I have it. I just bigger.

>> Here it is. That's good. Give me some

volume.

>> Look at that. on my way.

>> See this grizzly bear prince, man.

>> Look at these [ __ ] dude.

They're as big as my foot.

>> [ __ ] huge.

>> This is a massive [ __ ] grizzly bear.

>> Look at that, dude.

>> Massive [ __ ] grizzly bear.

>> Look at that paw. That's crazy.

>> How wide it is.

>> This is [ __ ] a massive ass grizzly

bear. And as you see,

>> where's it going?

>> He walks right through there through

those woods. So,

>> probably over the mountain.

>> We are in big time grizzly bear

territory.

>> Bro,

that's so sketchy.

>> That's cool.

>> That's so sketchy.

>> He sent me that.

>> Yeah, cuz I was like, "What are you

doing?" He sends me that. This is what

I'm [laughter] doing.

>> Other people are like, "I'm watching

football." That's right. [laughter]

>> He's like, "I just [ __ ] parachuted

into Grizzly country."

Oh, man. There's nothing scarier than

than

big animals like that. Nothing scarier.

>> I get the most scared honestly in my

life. Um, when I was young, they had

like a lot of pedophiles in our area and

I think that kind of like made me

nervous, but probably being in the

ocean.

>> You had a lot of pedophiles in your

neighborhood.

>> Oh, yeah.

>> Like how many?

>> I mean, I think at least three is enough

for like a small area.

>> Three is more than enough.

>> Yeah.

>> How come nobody did anything about it?

>> They did. I mean, they put them in our

neighborhood or like [laughter]

>> Yeah.

>> Is that what I mean? I mean, how come

nobody arrested them? Okay.

>> Oh, they'd been arrested. Yeah. These

were guys who were like, uh,

>> they were released.

>> Yeah. They used to have this thing.

Remember when they had this Well, I

wonder when that rule was. It was like

the pedophiles had to go around door

todo.

>> Oh. And let everybody know.

>> No, they were pedophiles. Right.

>> Right. That was a law that they passed.

You had to alert people that a sex

offender had moved into the

neighborhood.

>> Well, we lived our mom worked all the

time and we were just at home all the

time. So, you'd have pedophiles

literally come to the door

>> and let you know.

>> Yeah. and be like, "Is your mom home?"

And be like, "No." And they were like,

"Well, I'm a pedophile." You're like,

"Well, [laughter]

>> that's a problem."

>> Yeah. Come back after 6, you know. Uh,

but so it was just crazy like, you know,

but then at least you did know who the

people were,

>> but it was definitely weird that you're

setting and they they don't live in nice

neighborhoods. You you know, like now

there's a lot of like billionaire

pedophiles that our government protects

and stuff, but back then

>> You really think so?

>> I don't know.

>> I don't know either. That's what makes

me nervous. I don't know.

>> I mean, they just had that thing that

came out about the Trump FC thing the

other day. That whole thing is just a

kickball at this point. I feel like,

>> bro, have you ever seen that video of me

and Tim Dylan where Tim Dylan is laying

out the scandal that took place and like

was it the 1970s, Jamie?

>> The Franklin scandal. What year was

that? I

>> think in the 80s and 90s.

>> Bro, we all dressed up like astronauts

or was that one?

>> Me and Tim Dylan. No. Well, no, we're

dressed normal.

>> Okay. He I don't even think he had the

crazy glasses on back then. That was

before he was protecting his eyes. Now

he protects his eyes.

>> 88.

>> 88. Play that video. I sent it to you,

right? This video is nuts, man. This was

Tim laid this out quite a while ago and

I kind of forgot about it until it

popped up on my feed. I was like, "Oh

shit." And then I said, "I could send it

back to you if you

>> Thank God for Tim Dylan.

>> Oh my god, he's the best. There's never

been a better ranter ever in the history

of ranting. Ever.

>> Ever."

>> Sin too. I bet there was somebody a long

time ago that was good, but we don't

have enough of his work to really

compete against him.

>> He's the funniest by far. He's the most

sarcastic, the most tongue andcheek, and

the most well- read. Yes.

>> The thing about Tim Dylan is like he

doesn't just go with narratives because

he um thinks that you want him to say

certain things. Yeah. You know what I

mean? Like he's very very well read and

he forms his opinions based on facts and

then turns into humor.

>> Yeah.

>> He's the [ __ ] man. Play this. was a

it was a scandal out of Omaha, Nebraska,

the Franklin Credit Union, where there

was a guy who was embezzling money and

then he was being investigated for that,

but they said he's all he has all this

money because he's running an interstate

pedophile network and he's pandering

kids to, you know, people in Washington

DC and New York and it was a a headline

in the Washington Post or the Washington

Times that were like callboy get a tour

of the Reagan White House. unidentified

White House aids in the Carter, Reagan,

and Bush administrations now are being

investigated for using the services of a

callboy ring. The paper reports that two

of the male prostitutes were given a

late night tour of the White House last

year.

>> And you know, this was a scandal with

real victims wanted to testify and then

people started dying. You know, the

private investigator they hired, his

plane broke up. Uh, one of the girls

that uh testified was found guilty of

perjury and that she was put in solitary

confinement. They had to use two grand

juries in Omaha to get rid of this

scandal. And it's one of now it's not as

sexy as like a pizz or something because

it happened in the 80s and '90s, but

this shows you the blueprint for the

government, you know, using marshalling

resources to to silence people that were

victims of this stuff. This is not new.

Congressman, senators, blackmail being

used by intelligence agencies. None of

it's new. It was pioneered by the mafia.

You're having sex with somebody who's

underage, then they own you forever. or

if they have photo, audio, video of you

doing that.

>> Wild.

Wild. So, if that existed at all in the

1990s, okay,

>> that Mitch McConnell guy was around back

then. You know, a lot of these Nancy

Pelosi type people, they've been around

since this photos of Nancy Pelosi with

JFK. Think of that.

>> That was before we didn't go to the

moon.

>> Yeah.

>> It's 1963.

>> That was before Israel didn't kill him.

>> You think so? I didn't say anything.

>> I heard you say Israel killed him.

>> You did?

>> That's what I heard. Maybe.

>> Jamie, did you put something in this?

>> They didn't. The glasses. They didn't do

it. Oh, before Israel didn't do it. Oh,

I see what you did.

>> I think uh

>> I didn't say anything.

>> I think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

>> Lee Harvey Oswald went to my middle

school. Do you know that?

>> No.

>> Yep.

>> What?

No [ __ ] Was there a plaque?

>> Uh, [laughter]

no. We did have a thing. There was a

thing

>> that everybody recognized.

>> Lo. Yeah.

LH

you guys called him.

>> Yeah,

>> like Elron Hubard. [laughter]

>> LHR. They all salute Elron Hover. Salute

LHR with a big Ever see Tom Cruz with a

big pie plate medal. He got a medal for

being the most awesome guy ever.

>> He [laughter] did.

>> Yeah. From Scientology. And he salutes

the photo of of a science fiction

writer. Bro, it's the kookiest thing.

You never seen

>> plate,

>> bro. They does he even seen those

desserts Scientology awards?

>> Nuhuh.

>> They're

>> I can see him eating a lot of desserts.

Really?

>> They're amazing.

>> I didn't even know that.

>> Look at that pie.

>> The times now.

>> Okay. These are the times we will all

remember.

>> Were you there?

>> What did you do?

>> I think you know that I am there for you

and I do care. So very very very much.

>> What is this about? Is this a Marie

Calendar's ad?

>> Bro, what this is is amazing. Just watch

this.

>> Okay. Sorry.

>> Guys, we're counting on you.

>> Right.

>> To Lrh.

>> To LR. Wow.

[laughter]

>> Crazy, right, bro? You want a Mission

Impossible guy? You want that guy?

That's what you get. Okay? You don't get

a normal dude who's that good at acting.

You get a [ __ ] crazy person

>> who's that good at being himself

>> with a pie plate around his neck. A

golden pie plate for being the most

awesome guy ever.

>> He salutes a science [laughter] fiction

author who's, by the way, one of the

worst writers in the history of writing.

>> Elron, I've done the thing in New York

where they try to electrocute you and

see if you care about him or whatever.

>> Oh, I I got that.

>> You know what I'm talking about? I did

that in San Diego.

>> You did?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> When? I was filming a TV show down there

and uh you know we were in the middle of

a break while we're filming and um they

had like a like a conference table set

up. It was like free personality test

>> and I [clears throat] was like what is

this? And I kind of knew what it was. I

knew it was dietetics, you know, which

is Scientology.

>> Mhm.

>> But the guy was like they made him do

it. You could tell he was like not

enthusiastic at all about it. You know,

he would like ask you questions about

like has one of your pets died like that

kind of [ __ ] like you hold his e-meter

and it would just I'm like how does this

work? Like what what is actually making

this happen? You know, I had all these

questions that he had no answers for

[laughter]

just and then I started.

>> Of course you did. That's your whole

life.

>> Elron Huard wrote more fiction

>> Yeah.

>> than any human being that's ever lived.

>> He wrote more things that were not true,

more published fiction than any human

being in the history of all human

beings. that guy, the guy that created

Scientology.

>> And you know how he did it? It was all

terrible. He never wrote a second draft.

Everything was just nonsense.

>> One hit wonder.

>> One hit wonder. That's kind of

>> typing. Uh brave. He was nuts. He was

out of his mind.

>> But people liked it enough though.

>> Did you ever see that show? They didn't

though. He wasn't successful until he

really started. I mean, he was he did a

lot of those like goofy magazines and

stuff. This is a long time ago, you got

to realize. But then once he started

religion, that's when things took off.

That's when like started making money.

Gave himself a lot of He gave himself a

bunch of awards, too. You ever see like

he had he wore a jacket and he had like

all these awards on his chest that he

had given himself. [laughter]

>> That's crazy. [laughter]

>> They love to give awards.

>> That's like the Golden Globes or

whatever.

>> Yeah, same thing. You know, it really

is. [laughter]

>> They give themselves awards for being

the most awesome people. How cra I mean

that whole it's all [ __ ] ridiculous

weird but that's what I'm feel I feel

like all of these balls of yarn that

used to feel like they made so much

sense

>> and they kept us warm and they gave us

senses of purpose I feel like all of

them are becoming unraveled but it makes

me wonder what's going to happen now are

we because these are a lot of things

that have felt like some of the

blueprints of our existence you know

>> you know what makes me nervous

>> does that make any sense to you when I

say that 100%

>> cuz that's kind of what I guess I'm most

scared about I think like even this year

it's like some of my sense of purpose or

like I just worry that other people

don't have a sense of purpose or what's

going on and it makes me kind of scared

sometimes.

>> Well, that's a good perspective and I

think it's accurate. Um, what makes me

nervous is the people that are not aware

that all of our assumptions of how the

government works, we're all based on

[ __ ] The people that still believe

that are like true believers of one side

or the other, true faith in government

and experts, those people make me more

nervous cuz some of them are smart.

That's what's crazy. When smart people

are completely unwilling to recognize

that conspiracies are not just real, but

they're also not rare, they're they're

very common. They're common and people

get away with them. Yeah. especially

when they're in positions of extreme

power like running intelligence

agencies. Like they and there's a lot of

things that they do that are morally

reprehensible but totally legal. Like

they can do it because they're allowed

to because they are a three-letter

organization and they have ultimate

power to do a lot of like really gross

things that are in the nature or or in

the the interest of national security.

So like this is the whole idea behind

it. They say like this is our our

decision. This is the best move for

national security. This is how we

compromise assets. This is how we gather

information. This is how we keep America

safe.

>> But are they're not our why is it our

FBI and CIA are working against us?

That's what it feels like. They're just

tricking us about everything. It feels

like

>> they're tricking some people um on

purpose.

>> But why why is that even their goal?

Like I thought that they

>> because they're trying to arrest people.

So this is the problem with your career.

Like, and this has been explained to me

by a lot of people that are experts and

people that know. John Caracow explained

it this way. Your your reputation is

based on how successful you have been

arresting people, cracking cases.

>> And so, people set up cases so they can

break them.

>> They basically set up an escape room and

they're like, I know how to get out of

here. [laughter]

>> And they pretend that they're just like

a regular wizard that stumbled into the

escape room. No, you set the whole thing

up. Yeah, that's what it is. Well, it's

the same as like

>> there's a bunch of those stories.

>> Oh, I think it's the same as even with

like Hollywood and you know, I remember

one day I was walking in the Century

City Mall over there. It's in Los

Angeles. It's off of Santa Monica

Boulevard

>> and there was a uh like a blueco collar

guy walking by. He had him like he was

working construction. They were building

something there. And I was like he's

like Theo, what's up, man? So, we're

talking for a minute and I was like,

"What are y'all building?" He's like,

"Dude, you're never even going to

believe this. we're building. He's like

10 10 floors, 20 floor building. He's

like, 10 floors are uh uh talent agency

and the other 10 floors are for the CIA.

And I was like, what? I was like just in

the same building just happened to be

that's what you're building. He's like,

yep, that's what we're building. And he

wasn't lying. I don't think he was lying

to me. It just seemed like a it was just

>> a weird mixture.

>> Yeah.

>> Right. But I think that this starts to

happen. News stories get created, right?

things get whether they're fictional,

whatever goes on, you don't even know a

lot of times what's news stories. You

can send actors out to create a scene.

You see a video, you believe it. Um and

then they make movies.

>> That's been done before,

>> right? That's been done before.

>> Oh, yeah. There was but then you see

movies and stuff come out later about

it. So, it's like you're almost creating

your own um news to then make like a uh

based on a real story. You know what I'm

talking about?

>> Yeah.

>> Like it's all just a

>> I guess. [laughter]

Yeah. Like they they let the talent

agencies know that they're about to do

this so you can start casting the the

dramatic. [laughter]

>> It makes sense cuz it's like then you're

just you're

>> God.

>> But it's just like what do we do? You

know,

>> well they've been doing this forever.

They've been doing this forever and you

know they've been shaping our views of

war and you know that's one of the

reasons why they started making all

these war movies.

>> Do you know that? [clears throat]

>> Okay. So, in World War I, one of the

problems that they had was people didn't

want to be over there killing people.

Yeah.

>> And so, people were shooting, but they

weren't shooting at the actual enemy.

They would like shoot over their heads

or shoot to the left of them and to the

right of them. They didn't want to kill

people.

>> And they realized like that you take

people just regular people from the city

and from the farm and put them in a

uniform and tell them they have to go

kill people. This is no YouTube back

then, no television back then, right? So

their ideas of what's right and wrong

are all based on their life. Yeah. Their

actual life. And so then they realized,

well, we've got to do something about

that. And so after that, they started

creating all these really patriotic war

movies where the guys are heroes. They

go over and they shoot all the bad guys

and then they're awesome. So then the

next group of people that go to war are

all going to be indoctrinated with these

films. And these films are that

America's the best and we're number one.

We're going to go over there and this is

how you get all the girls. You be a

[ __ ] hero and go over there and shoot

those Germans.

>> Yeah. And come back and play with a tit.

>> Exactly. Come back and get ridden like a

[ __ ] cowboy.

>> Yeah.

>> Tits will be here when you get off the

boat.

>> Yeah.

>> Um,

>> baby girl.

>> And that's uh that's what they did. They

they mean

>> makes sense

>> for sure. Advertising.

>> The CIA and you know various federal

organizations have a say in how

America's portrayed in movies, right?

Right. It's like if you're going to get

access to if you're going to do some

film on the, you know, the Pentagon or

something like that, you you bet [ __ ]

this better make us look good, you know?

They're not going to let you make them

look like a bunch of bumbling [ __ ]

retards that are just doing it for their

career. No, you better make us look

good. You can't fake what the Pentagon

is, [ __ ] You know, and you're like,

"Okay, sir. What? Tell me how you'd like

Mr. Cruz to talk about his work."

>> And you know, you'd make them look like

the most awesome human beings that have

ever been. So that way you like you want

to support them, you want to fund them,

and you want to listen to them when they

talk it on the news.

>> Well, in a lot of like the projects, I

think they have to have people from

these organizations that come and like

oversee how the organization is

presented, right?

>> Yeah. So, it's like if you want to do

something where the Navy's involved, you

have to have people there from the Navy

that are like overseeing it and making

sure that everything is uh presented um

to, you know, to be true to the Navy,

but also like there could be maybe some

manipulation there. But we just had Gary

Sice was on the podcast. Man, it was

really cool.

>> Oh, he's cool,

>> dude. If you ever want to donate to

something or people do, man, what just

an impressive his whole organization is

>> What is he doing?

>> Well, he does a lot of stuff for

veterans, right? He does a lot of stuff

for first responders, you know, or EMTs.

>> Um, he does a lot of stuff for um

>> he does this thing where they take kids

who have lost a fan a parent to the in

uh military action. Um he takes them to

Disney World every year like this big

group of them, you know. Um

>> just but just like really

>> like does it, you know, like he has a

band that plays. He there's a bunch of

organizations. cuz he was like one of

the first responders of um out there

feeding people uh feeding the first

responders who were there at the

Palisades when that happened. Just like

a lot of neat stuff, you know, did

>> you ever think you'd be in the position

you're in where you're just having all

these weird conversations with

interesting people?

>> Cuz this is not like

>> No.

>> When I first met you, I would have never

suspected that this would be a path that

you would go down.

>> Yeah. Not at all. You know, it's

interesting that you went down that like

how what what led you to want to start

doing that?

>> Well, I think a couple of things. I

think um

>> well, I think I I didn't know I was kind

of competitive in some ways,

>> you know, like I think um

I think I'm kind of competitive. Like I

want to see what's possible that's maybe

inside of me,

>> you know? [clears throat]

>> So competitive with yourself or

competitive with other people that are

also doing it? um just competitive

because I think I I there was I felt

like maybe some people thought this

thing like oh this guy can't do it

>> you know interesting

>> I don't think that's I think there were

some people that maybe like oh I'm

surprised that this guy enjoys this or

likes doing it but I think there was

like

yeah that this guy can't do it and I

just never had a voice when I was a kid

you know I never had a voice

>> like

>> you know so much of my childhood I think

I just couldn't even speak up for myself

I didn't even know what I wanted to say.

I didn't even know what my feelings

were, right? I just

>> right.

>> I was just like this. I just

>> it it just felt

tough, you know? And so I think when

>> yeah, when I started to kind of get into

podcasting and have a little bit more of

a voice

>> and then

>> to get to talk to some people that I

that that that I felt like were

important that weren't getting voices,

like even like we had a doctor from Gaza

on last year

>> or this year and that was like a moment

for me. I was like, "Oh, this is

important stuff." You know, like um

other people aren't putting this voice

out there, right? Some people are, but

like the mainstream media I don't feel

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>> And it just

>> Well, that's not what they do, you know?

I mean, the the reason why we can do

what we do is because there's not really

anyone over there doing they never

figured this out before. They never

figured out that hey, there's a lot of

people that are in their car for hours

every day. They're on the train for

hours every day. They're in the gym.

They're doing different stuff where they

want to listen to things. Or when they

come home, they don't want to watch late

night TV. They want to watch an

interesting conversation, you know,

>> and that just they didn't know that that

was a thing. That's all that was. We

snuck in. I think we snuck in. I think

they had no idea. They thought this was

just shitty radio.

>> Yeah.

>> You know,

>> and I think my whole life, I think

people looked at me and thought, "Oh,

this dude's just [ __ ] shitty radio,

>> you know, or off the beat like that in a

way, you know." Well, I think like when

was

>> and I still think it is my show. I mean,

look, I feel lucky to have a show. We

work hard, you know, with podcasting. I

feel lucky to get to talk to a lot of

people. I don't think we do a lot of

information type of stuff, you know, and

I wish we could do better with that

sometimes. I think maybe that's a goal

of mine next year is to try to learn

more stuff just in the day-to-day so I

can have conversations that are maybe