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Ian Jamba, better known on the internet

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as Idubs, was a creator celebrated for

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his creativity, effortless humor, and

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critical commentary. In virtually every

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aspect, he was a modern-day core jester.

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He made strong arguments for why shame

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is necessary. But he also danced.

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Whether this meant reviewing pickles in

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a storm drain or unboxing a single cup

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of ramen, Ian proved to millions he

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could entertain, push boundaries, and

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evolve. It was late 2015 that Ian

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premiered Content Cop, a staple of

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YouTube commentary that brought light to

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shameless creators and their uninspired

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content. Yet, as Ian's plans became

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grander, there was a felt loss of

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momentum. Perception definitively

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changed when his wife announced her only

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fans and Ian felt himself being the

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target of shame. This created a divide

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between him and his audience that has

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progressively widened inexplicably and

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across the board. Ian was less

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expressive both in the physical and

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artistic sense. Furthermore, his new

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projects have backfired spectacularly.

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From mismanaging a charity boxing event

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to the point that it lost money to only

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popularizing his opponents in attempts

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[music] to suppress them, Idubbbz is now

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seen in a far worse light. And though

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there are hundreds of videos speculating

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on the matter, few provide a

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satisfactory answer. This is why this

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video aims to explore the story of an

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ambitious advocate for creativity who

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has lost everything that has made him

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successful. This is why it is best to

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start at the beginning.

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The jobs of a court jester, artificial

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fool or joker were historically jobs to

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entertain. They could criticize the

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court, its noblemen or the king. The

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jester could dance, but it could also

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deliver scathing critique in a way no

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one else could or would dare to. Ian was

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not born into the profession of jester.

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First, he was a common man. In the early

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2010s, Ian Washburn had a desire to

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start a let's play channel. It was a

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genre that was just hitting its peak of

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popularity. To do this, he chose the

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name Idubbbz. The I stood for Ian. Dub,

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which is slang for victory, was derived

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from the first syllable of the letter W.

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In this convoluted way, his channel name

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was both representative of his initials

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and also directly meant I win. But there

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was an issue. Idubbbz with a single B

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was already taken. So he added another

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B. But even still, the username was

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taken. Finally, he tried Idubbbz with

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three B's and acquired his first channel

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name. Ian also made IDUBs too, likely

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for non-game related videos.

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>> [snorts]

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>> Ian on the channel Idubbbz played games

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that were highly popular at the time

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from Amnesia: The Dark Descent to

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Minecraft and perhaps also recorded a

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video about Anime Expo. Ian did well to

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blend into the background of this genre.

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Naturally, this was an issue. There were

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already hundreds, if not thousands, of

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creators playing these games and even

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their modified variants. By late 2012,

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Ian had gained a greater understanding

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of what it means to stand out. In

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playing less popular indie games, Ian

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did not have to compete with his far

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more popular contemporaries. You use the

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power cell from your plasma gun to power

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up the jump port.

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All right, it looks like it's in order.

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Let's go.

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In focusing on lesserknown games, he

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could capture an audience in a space

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that saw little competition. This is why

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Ian found growth in playing Overgrowth,

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a modifiable combat-driven game that as

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popularity for the game grew, Ian's

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channel grew with it. One of the easiest

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ways to learn about new mods before

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trying them is through YouTube. For

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example, the Idubbbz TV channel has more

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than 150 let's play videos showing off

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different mods and custom levels. Though

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Idubbbz TV was meant to be one of Ian's

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many alternative channels, it soon

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became the main one as the original

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Idubbbz had lost its monetization.

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>> First channel was demonetized cuz I was

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watching my own ads. Not actually

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>> what? Not not actually. [laughter]

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Uh, but they they they were a little sus

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on the channel, so they suspended the

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account, so I needed to make a new one.

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>> Ian in 2013 on Idubbbz TV continued to

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focus on Overgrowth and indie horror

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games, but he still did not lose the

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most important piece of what was making

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his channel special. It was his drive to

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experiment. This is likely one of the

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reasons he uploaded Slender Gangdom

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Mode.

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While Idubbbz could have continued to

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make safe overgrowth videos and perhaps

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transitioned into comfortable coverage

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of new indie games, instead he started

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covering gaming news for no other reason

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than to satisfy his desire to be

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creative. Hey guys, welcome to my new

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show. I decided I want to start this new

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series so that I could express my

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creativity in new and interesting ways.

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And I figured if I start a new show,

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then it probably won't stay a new show.

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So, I could do other things, too. I

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don't know. We're just going to see

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where it takes us.

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>> Ian, with a newfound confidence, was

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finding out quickly that people liked

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watching him. Meaning that as he

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continued to place himself in different

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genres, his viewers would stick around

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for his personality and observations.

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Not because of a trend, but because of

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the critical perspective Ian was

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beginning to embody. It was likely with

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this realization that Ian brought this

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side out of him more and more. So, I've

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seen a lot of people contributing to

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some pretty bad Kickstarters. I feel

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like the main problem with supporting um

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pretty much anyone on Kickstarter is

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that I can go on Kickstarter and give

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you an idea for a game and maybe do a

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little bit of work on it and just be

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like, "Yeah, I need some help making

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this game. It's going to be it's going

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to have all the awesomeness of Fallout

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3, the open world of Just Cause 2, and

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all the guns of Borderlands, and also a

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ton of boobs. Like, that's what I'm

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going to make.

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>> Ian through this news video started to

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give his audience the tools to be

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skeptic and critical, to question the

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reality of situations. In relation to

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Kickstarter, he was questioning how

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inexperienced Zilla developers could

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claim to surpass even the most beloved

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franchises. as if the only barrier was

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money. In the majority of cases, the

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developer speaks not of creativity, but

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ego. And on Kickstarter, some projects

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were being rewarded for their

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unsubstantiated promises rather than

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proven ability. In a way, they could

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divert funding from true, well-meaning

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creatives. This injustice and ego was

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the enemy of Idubbbz, and his weapon was

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comedy and shame. [laughter]

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>> Most of you all know me as Texas.

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[gasps] Holy [ __ ] [laughter]

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Texas? Really? Texas?

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Most people know you as Texas?

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What? Who's most people?

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>> Most of you all know me as Texas.

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>> Oh, okay. Well, fair enough. Let's go

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ahead and uh keep watching the video.

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Kickstarter crap. In this series, Ian

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honed in on poorly conceived Kickstarter

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projects, often giving an overview of

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how the creator views or advertises the

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project to them pitting their

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perspective against the reality of what

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the project actually is.

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>> We're trying to make the first game

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that's designed by the players for the

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players.

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>> All right, guys. So, having fully looked

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at this Kickstarter project, I can tell

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you for a fact that they want to make a

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very cookie cutter MMO RPG by May 2014.

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The Kickstarter crap series consistently

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outperformed any of Ian's let's plays.

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It helped that he broadened the range of

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topics to criticize not only successful

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Kickstarters, but also Kickstarters that

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were not exclusively related to gaming.

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And though he did continue to post let's

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plays, his new series were not at all

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directly related to gaming. Hey

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everybody and welcome back. Today I'm

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going to be doing my first unboxing

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video. It might also be my last unboxing

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video, but I felt like I needed to do

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this because right now there's a lot of

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unboxing videos on YouTube. A lot of

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people opening up loot crates, junk

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boxes,

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stuff cubes, and a bunch of [ __ ] like

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that that really is is, you know, quite

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honestly just a bunch of leftover [ __ ]

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from uh from a bargain bin at Big Lots.

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Okay, so I'm here to break the mold and

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uh I expressed my concern on Twitter and

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uh luckily enough toothbrush

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subscriptions uh.com reached out to me.

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So they sent me a package. It uh it's

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Idubbbz deliberately selected the most

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mundane item, which proved the point

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that regardless of genre, any video

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could be interesting. In this video, Ian

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quote unquote tests the toothbrushes by

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bending or breaking them. He also

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inexplicably spits on his lap after

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rinsing his mouth with water. A small,

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possibly unintended detail is a Bugs

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Bunny themed glass. Bugs Bunny is a

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character known for being a cunning

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chaotic trickster. In this way, Ian and

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Bugs were one and the same. In 2014

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alone, items made various unboxing

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videos on a self-sealing bicycle tube,

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two graphics cards and a CPU, a

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motherboard, cups of fruit, and of

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course, a simple bowl of noodles. Ian

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opened 2015 by reviewing a pack of

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pencils that went as expected.

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As most of you guys are aware, I am an

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avid kung fu enthusiast. I can break

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blocks of wood. I could break cylinder

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blocks. You name it, I can break it.

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Oh, [ __ ] Oh, that hurt. Okay, guys. Now

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we are going to burn the erasers in the

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in the flames of hell.

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So long, suckers. The top comment reads,

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quote, "Only items would make unboxing a

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pack of pencils for 7 minutes

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interesting."

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As was with the gaming videos, Idubbbz

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could comfortably settle into making

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unboxing videos or Kickstarter crap. He

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could have made a career juggling, but

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to ascend to Jester, one must master

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critique. I I definitely didn't want

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people to like um I don't know if it's

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like a chip on my shoulder or whatever,

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but I didn't want people to say that I'm

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like a one pony or whatever. So,

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>> I don't know. I felt like, you know, if

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I in some ways like got ahead of it and

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like did different things, interesting

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things, I you know, I would feel good

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about myself and where I was headed.

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>> Ian had made a series critical of

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Kickstarters. He made parody unboxing

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videos that became their own series as

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he started accepting fan mail. These

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were both statements against the

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formulaic. Even if a series by its

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nature is predictable, Ian had the

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ability to make videos memorable, even

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if just by including cutaways that were

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less than a second long. It's David

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Fincher, baby. Here's the first movie

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that we're going to look at. It stars

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three pets who escape a ranch to find

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their owners in San Francisco. This is

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what Idubbbz was. He was a creative that

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perhaps put his own creativity and

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entertainment first. He was not one to

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boast or self agrandise. This is perhaps

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why Jinx irked him so much as he was a

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direct opposite of Ian. Cuz let's be

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honest, [laughter]

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some of us make those videos a lot

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better.

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>> Jinx was a reaction channel that in late

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2015 was averaging 50 million views a

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month solely by reacting to videos.

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These were not reactions in the sense of

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deconstructing a video or transforming

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the work by being critical of it. These

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were reactions to popular videos often

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played in their entirety with little to

11:47

no additive commentary. YouTube promoted

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these channels so heavily that they

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could compete with the author's original

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work. Creators were none too pleased to

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have to compete with bastardized

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renditions of their videos. Yo, Jinx,

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that was a dope ass video, man. That was

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just hella tight. I really like the part

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where you played my video in its

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entirety and then didn't really react to

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it. just kind of sat there. I also like

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the part where you added virtually no

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insight. You just kind of rambled on for

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about 5 minutes and missed the point

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entirely. Pretty brilliant how you play

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the entire video in your channel. It's

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like it's a one-stop shop. Why bother

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going to my channel to watch that video

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when you can just watch that and your

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reaction?

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>> Though creators did push back at this

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trend, even at their crudest, they

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failed to effectively shame the genre,

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but not Idubbbz. One of the biggest

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reaction channels or the biggest

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reaction channel right now is called

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Jinx. He has 800,000 subscribers on his

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main channel and it's eerily similar to

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the Potato Salad Kickstarter project. I

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say this because the Potato Salad

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Kickstarter project was garbage. It

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garnered a lot of attention, a lot of

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money. It took zero effort. And on top

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of that, it spawned a whole [ __ ] ton of

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copycats that are doing the same [ __ ]

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thing.

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>> YUM. [screaming]

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>> WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS? I HAVE A WIFE AND

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FAMILY.

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PAIN.

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>> If you didn't guess it by now, reaction

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channels make reaction videos to other

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reaction channels reacting to their

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videos. Yes, it's a golden ratio of

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retardation. Ian explained why these

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creators were worthy of criticism. In

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the same video, he also reasons why his

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scaling remarks could not be matched by

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those he criticizes.

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Ian also argues for the necessity of

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shame. I edit my videos. I put time into

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my videos. And at the end of the day, my

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burns are going to be sicker than yours.

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So, I would recommend that the most you

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do is continue doing what you do best,

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and that is having no talent and making

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shitty videos. A reaction channel is

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very similar to a young, busty,

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attractive female. They've been waited

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on hand and foot their whole lives.

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Everyone gives them compliments. No one

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criticizes them. They buy them free

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drinks at the bar. But eventually,

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because there is some order to the

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world, some bitter old hag needs to come

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by who doesn't give two [ __ ] about this

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stupid bimbo. And she needs to tell the

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stupid bimbo, "You have no talent, you

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have no skills, and your attitude is

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extremely shitty.

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Hey there folks, I'm the Content Cop.

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I'm here to make sure everyone's content

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is up to par, and if it's not, I'm I'll

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bring them to justice." On December

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13th, 2015, Content [music] Cop Busting

14:39

Jinx Reload released. The video opens

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with a small whimsical skit before

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transitioning to Ian's typical filming

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location. The first introduction of Jinx

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in this video is not centered around the

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content, but rather the character and

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ego of Jinx.

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Look at this smug piece of [ __ ] just

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sits on his bed eating a bag of Cheetos

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as his intro. Oh, hell yeah, dude.

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Reminds me of that [ __ ] who ate a

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bowl of cereal for a million subs.

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>> So, what I mean by scope out your

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competition is basically check out their

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channel, see what they do or how they do

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things. Now, what I did was set my goal

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to outdo everything they did. You

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>> sound like a [ __ ] legend, Jinx. Your

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goal was to outdo everything the other

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reaction channels were doing. In the

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second half of the content cop, Ian goes

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through select videos Jinx published

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that do not rely on the content he's

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reacting to, but rather his creative

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ability.

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>> You got to eat, sleep, [ __ ] YouTube.

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You got to suck [ __ ] [ __ ] YouTube.

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Oh, this is so motivational. Holy [ __ ]

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Oh, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do

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it right now. I'm going to sit on my

15:47

bed. I'm going to sit on the end of my

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bed. Going to set up the camera and I'm

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going to watch some [ __ ] videos. [ __ ]

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editing. The content cop was a tool to

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shame, to correct, and above all else

15:57

entertain. The content cop is a

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modern-day court gesture. Where a more

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competent creator may have created an

16:04

equally devastating retort, the lesser

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creatives with an inflated ego

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inherently did not have the ability to

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do so. The content cop videos often

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attack dominant creators in their

16:13

genres. Many of the criticisms Ian laid

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were applicable not only to reaction

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channels, but were also lessons in

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content creation and evaluation of ego.

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Being that this was Ian's first content

16:25

cop, it hardly did anything to initially

16:27

move the needle in how reaction channels

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were perceived. It would take several

16:30

months for it to even break a million

16:32

views. There was some refinement to be

16:35

had as Ian was still figuring out what

16:37

he wanted a series to be. At first, it

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appeared he wanted it to be a series as

16:41

frequently uploaded as a bad unboxing or

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Kickstarter crap. As a content cop, I

16:46

got a meat quota for the month, just

16:48

like any cop does. And this means that I

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can't put all my time, energy, and

16:52

resources into making a big bust like

16:54

Jinx. All right? So, every now and

16:56

again, I'll be looking at some projects

16:57

like I'm going to be looking at today

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that aren't necessarily, you know,

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felony charges. They're probably

17:03

misdemeanors, a small citation here and

17:05

there. Going 30 fps into a 60, that sort

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of thing. Uh, so keep that in mind as we

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go forward. I can't make the big bus all

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the time. All right, I got to do Look,

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look at this guys. I'm doing a bunch of

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research over here. I can't I can't be

17:21

This came from Content Cop Amateur Food

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Reviewers released only 10 days after

17:25

the Jinx Content Cop. Rather than

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critiquing a single content creator, it

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was more so an examination of a genre

17:31

that so desperately lacked in creativity

17:34

that the only defining difference was

17:35

the food being reviewed. Another thing

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they do, which they really don't have

17:39

to, is create a long rhy rap poem at the

17:42

beginning of their video, thinking that

17:44

that's really going to pump people up.

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You can have that. I understand the

17:47

importance of of getting people excited,

17:49

but you know, a lot of the time it feels

17:51

kind of contrived.

17:52

>> YouTube, it's your boy Ranger Re. You

17:54

need a clock to know what time it is.

17:55

What up party people in the place to be

17:57

is your boy C Snacks.

17:58

>> What's up people? What it be? What it

18:00

do? Happy man snacks back again with a

18:03

new review.

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>> Hey, what's going on party people? It's

18:05

your boy Snack Dubs back again with

18:07

another legit food review.

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>> No one gives a [ __ ] So, you got to

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create suspense. If you don't have a

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crazy personality, if you don't have mad

18:15

jokes, you got to create suspense some

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other way.

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Are we serving breakfast all day? Let's

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peep this out. It has all sorts of good.

18:26

It has fish in it. AND IT

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[screaming]

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Today we're going to be looking at all

18:34

the food review channels that can't help

18:36

but do the exact same thing as every

18:38

[ __ ] other food review channel. This

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content cop like the toy review channel

18:42

Content Cop were far less risky and less

18:44

hard-hitting. They served to deconstruct

18:46

rather than harshly critique. Ian

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tempered his content cops dependent on

18:50

the quote unquote crime. If not clear by

18:53

previous content cops, this was clear by

18:55

his coverage of the fine bros and where

18:57

he emphasizes he does not want to beat a

18:59

dead horse. Almost as if he made a video

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covering them out of obligation. Hey

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Idubbbz, you're going to go after the

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fine bros. Oh boy, I was all excited.

19:10

Going to get so many hits if you make

19:12

fun of the revenue bros. [ __ ] I should

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have broke the story. I wait a few days

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and everyone's making fine bros videos.

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[ __ ] the fine brothers. Fine brothers

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more like revenue brothers. Revenue

19:26

brothers more like money grubbing.

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>> All of the content cops up to this point

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besides the one on Jinx could be

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regarded as the weakest in the series.

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But Ian was about to define the series.

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This begins coincidentally enough after

19:39

his Jinx content cop. But then Idubbbz

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suggested that the argument should turn

19:44

physical. He said this. I'd say we do a

19:47

charity MMA fight to settle our

19:49

differences. My charity is the cancer

19:52

one. And Jinx responded by saying, "Set

19:55

it up." Ian was satisfied Jinx and

19:58

Keemstar was meant to help organize it.

20:00

Ian in January 2016 released a short

20:03

video promoting the event. However, Jinx

20:05

began to demand money and did not seem

20:07

entirely committed to the fight. In

20:09

February, Idubbbz announced that Jinx

20:11

had backed out, but he still flew to

20:13

Philadelphia to make a video pointing

20:15

fun at his cowardice. The reason this

20:17

matters beyond demonstrating Idubbb's

20:19

interest in boxing for charity was

20:21

because of these three messages between

20:23

Idubbbz and Keemstar. And where Keemstar

20:25

threatens, quote, I would destroy your

20:27

career, but I like your vids too much."

20:30

If inflated ego is the enemy, then

20:32

Keemstar was Ian's enemy. Idubbbz

20:35

uploaded a video and he had the Alex

20:37

clip in there and I'm like, oh no, not

20:39

this. [laughter]

20:40

Jesus,

20:41

>> it's coming back to haunt you.

20:42

>> It's not this. This is the time where it

20:44

started to be like, "Oh, you're a

20:46

racist. You're in the KKK." You know,

20:48

like this is the time where it was being

20:50

really negative. So, I hit up Idubbbz.

20:51

I'm like, "Dude, please don't like don't

20:54

use that clip." I'm like, "Or I'd have

20:57

to ruin your career." Like laughing out

20:59

loud as the meme. He took that as I was

21:02

actually threatening him. Keemstar has a

21:05

habit of recontextualizing his worst

21:07

moments to favor him. Although he claims

21:09

he was joking when he sent those

21:10

messages, as reinforced by the LOL

21:13

afterwards, there was likely a part of

21:15

him that meant it. This plays into

21:17

another element of who Ian is. He is a

21:19

very stubborn person. He is someone who

21:22

freely said racial slurs. His

21:24

catchphrase at the time was yen and f

21:26

words thrown together. His mythos was

21:28

against conformity, but he still existed

21:30

within his own principles and would

21:32

argue not use racial slurs in a

21:34

derogatory way. I was making videos like

21:37

during a time where it was very popular

21:41

online to be like uh antisocial justice

21:45

and um I in in a lot of ways I've been

21:48

like lumped in with a lot of people who

21:50

were making um big antisocial justice

21:54

videos back then. Um, I was definitely

21:56

like part of that culture. I definitely

21:58

wouldn't deny that. With Ian hating

22:00

being suppressed, it is possible that he

22:02

set on making a Keemstar content cop, if

22:04

only because Keemstar threatened him.

22:06

>> So So that was the thing. It's like the

22:08

day before I released the uh Keemstar

22:11

video, I called my local police and I

22:13

was like,

22:14

>> "Put me on the white list.

22:15

>> Are you [ __ ] serious?"

22:16

>> I said, "Give me a call if anything

22:18

happens." I did the same thing before

22:20

the Leafy one as well.

22:21

>> Wow.

22:21

>> It is that [ __ ] up though.

22:23

>> It is seriously. Some people are really

22:25

just out of their [ __ ] minds.

22:26

>> Those of you listening who don't like

22:28

follow YouTube, like it's that [ __ ]

22:30

up.

22:30

>> Yeah.

22:31

>> Ian feared the retribution from

22:33

attacking Keemstar so much they did put

22:35

measures in place to avoid being

22:36

swatted. Finally, on May 5th, 2016,

22:40

Content Cop Keemstar released. Ian

22:42

spends nearly the first four minutes

22:44

hunting different versions of a gnome

22:45

meant to represent Keemstar. He goes

22:48

from storm drains to the desert. This

22:50

was the showman and playful side of Ian.

22:52

It also helped reinforce that Keemstar

22:54

looked like a gnome. If there was any

22:56

insult that his audience could rally

22:58

behind, it was that Ian in his video

23:00

highlights Keemstar's hypocrisy,

23:02

transactional, and manipulative nature,

23:04

and his ego. In the video, Idubbbz also

23:07

makes it a point to state that he

23:09

unironically believes Keemstar should

23:10

end himself. This content cop was

23:12

gaining traction like no other. In just

23:15

9 days, it had hit nearly 2 million

23:17

views and stabilized at a high like

23:19

ratio. Even so, it hardly affected

23:21

Keemstar's channel as he continued to

23:23

gain subscribers well into May. This is

23:26

likely because instead of fighting the

23:27

criticisms, Keemstar embraced them. I

23:30

find it almost impossible to fight with

23:31

people who I think are funny. Idubbbz

23:34

knows I've been watching his videos

23:35

forever. He knows I'm a fan of him and

23:37

he's [ __ ] rolling on the ground with

23:39

popcorn and [ __ ] gnomes and [ __ ] And

23:41

I'm just not mad. It's funny. Like I

23:45

>> While Keemstar was initially unaffected

23:47

by the content cop as the video gained

23:49

traction, his friends would eventually

23:50

betray him. One of those people was

23:52

infamous creator Leafy is here. By the

23:55

end of May, Idubbbz had surpassed 1

23:57

million subscribers. Though Ian had

23:59

struck gold with his Keemstar content

24:01

cop, he had regressed to lesser targets.

24:03

In June, he released a second content

24:05

cop on toy review channels. And in

24:07

August, he released a video on the prank

24:09

channel, How to Prank It Up. reply back

24:11

to them, hey dude, you have something

24:14

stuck in your teeth. Hey man, what was

24:15

that plastic green thing hanging from

24:17

your hair? And then what it's going to

24:19

do is a made you look prank. So they're

24:20

going to think, oh man, did I have

24:22

something in my hair? You made them

24:23

look. For this prank, you're going to

24:25

need a cell phone with Snapchat

24:26

installed. You need to attend VidCon,

24:29

meet up with a creator that you're not a

24:30

very big fan of, and say, "Hey, I'm a

24:33

big fan of your work." You take a selfie

24:35

with them, and then you send it to all

24:37

your friends with a caption like, "Got

24:39

him." or I got a picture with Roman

24:42

Atwood.

24:43

>> This was arguably the weakest and least

24:45

Content Copesque in the original series.

24:47

The ethos of the Content Cop postcontent

24:49

cop Keemstar was to shame the shameless.

24:52

This is likely why Content Cop on how to

24:54

prank it up was one of the least viewed.

24:56

That and his highest crime was making

24:58

tutorial videos on Dole of Pranks. How

25:00

to prank it up even kindly reacted to

25:02

his Content Cop. Quote, I watched this

25:05

video all the way to the end. Damn, you

25:07

roasted me good, Idubbbz. that was

25:09

totally unexpected and funny AF."

25:12

Perhaps Ian was attempting to take back

25:14

the character and create less impactful

25:16

videos to lower expectations and dilute

25:18

the character's destructive potential.

25:20

Ian was growing in size and influence.

25:23

So even by that merit, his words had far

25:26

more power than they once did. And if

25:28

this kept up, he would no longer be

25:29

punching up. Yet, there were still

25:31

creators worthy of the full Content Cop

25:34

experience. Leafius here was a creator

25:36

who was far outperforming even Idubbbz

25:38

in terms of viewership. He was uploading

25:40

daily, which was an aspect the YouTube

25:42

algorithm especially favored. Yet, his

25:44

videos were virtually all the same. They

25:47

were commentary videos with gameplay

25:48

footage. This was the same format of the

25:51

Call of Duty commenters a decade prior.

25:53

Only Leafy aimed his rants at infamous

25:55

or otherwise odd figures. He would

25:58

critique them in such a shallow fashion

26:00

that even his commentary was uninspired.

26:02

Furthermore, he was specifically getting

26:04

backlash for making a video on Tom YenC

26:07

2010, an autistic YouTuber, which is

26:09

something he apologized for. Hey, what's

26:12

up guys? It's Leafy. And as many of you

26:14

guys know, this is going to be an

26:15

apology video for everything that has

26:16

happened recently. Though Leafy still

26:18

made videos on the lesser capable like

26:21

children. Creator H3H3, who was also

26:24

known for his commentary, released a

26:26

video calling out Leafy for how he was

26:28

using his platform. And I mean, if you

26:30

look at Leafy's channel, all he does is

26:32

make fun of kids and like vulnerable

26:34

people like Joey's World Tour. There's

26:36

no there's no sport in making fun of

26:39

these people. They're just It's just

26:40

sad. So, here's the video he made about

26:42

Tommy. Here's a video he made about a

26:44

little girl who made a music video who

26:46

Here's a making fun of a kid. Here's

26:49

making fun of a Joey's World Tour who's

26:51

obviously has a eating disorder. Here's

26:53

making fun of a kid. Here's making fun

26:56

of a kid. Kid, kid, kid,

26:59

kid.

27:01

Like, what the [ __ ] man?

27:03

>> In this video, Ethan of H3H3 states that

27:06

Leafy targeting vulnerable people is

27:07

distasteful and that his channel has

27:09

gotten so big that even his smallest

27:11

critiques will have his fan base harass

27:13

the individuals he covers. He also

27:15

accepts that his claims are hypocritical

27:17

to an extent. Leafy responded to Ethan

27:20

not by accepting the criticism, but by

27:22

targeting Ethan's character,

27:24

specifically showing how Ethan, in an

27:26

older video, made fun of a 14-year-old's

27:28

haircut, how Ethan supported Leafy and a

27:30

different controversial creator at one

27:32

point. Overall, making it seem like

27:34

Ethan was a morally bankrupt person.

27:36

Even though this was not the argument,

27:38

Leafy successfully evaded any

27:40

long-lasting damage by simply evading

27:42

the argument of morals. Idubbbz,

27:44

however, was more attuned to what Leafy

27:46

was doing and what viewers really

27:48

wanted. Rather than center the argument

27:50

about bullying and what is and is not

27:52

okay, Idub centered it on character. And

27:55

what better delivery method than the

27:57

content cop?

28:00

[music]

28:12

>> [music]

28:17

[music]

28:21

>> Hey everybody, welcome back to another

28:23

episode of Content Cop. As you can

28:25

probably tell, I can hardly contain

28:27

myself right now because today is the

28:30

day we get to bully Leafy. In Content

28:32

Cop Leafy, Ian demonstrates that not

28:35

only can you play the same game as

28:36

Leafy, but also he was better at it.

28:39

Straight off the bat, I want to let all

28:40

the newcomers to my channel know that

28:42

I'm perfectly fine with bullying. Make

28:44

fun of someone cuz they're fat,

28:46

autistic, or riddled with acne, I don't

28:49

care. Make fun of them. I think my only

28:51

stipulation with the bullying is that

28:53

you also have to not be a [ __ ] You

28:55

see, because if you're a [ __ ] and

28:57

you're hiding your putrid, malformed

28:58

chin behind your hand, your sleeve, or

29:01

your microphone, you're you're showing

29:03

people that you are extremely

29:05

self-conscious. You're showing people

29:06

that you're a [ __ ] and that takes a

29:08

lot of the oomph out of your bullying.

29:10

Ian in his video breaks down Leafy's

29:12

repetitive, shallow comments, and how

29:14

Leafy in his most scathing critiques

29:16

only half-heartedly takes ownership of

29:18

the insults.

29:19

>> Driving a car with the Minecraft logo in

29:20

the corner, his [ __ ] teeth.

29:23

Nah, [ __ ] that. I'm not going to be

29:24

talking about the kid today.

29:26

>> I'm not going to be talking about the

29:28

kid today after showing a picture of his

29:30

[ __ ] up snaggle tooth to my millions

29:32

of followers. A zoomedin picture of his

29:34

[ __ ] up snaggletoothoth. Yeah. No, I'm

29:37

not going to be talking about the kid

29:38

today. I'm not going to talk about his

29:40

[ __ ] up teeth. His teeth. The [ __ ]

29:42

up thing in his mouth. I'm not going to

29:44

talk about that. That would be a [ __ ]

29:45

up thing for me to do. The way Ian

29:47

breaks down Leafy's videos is by

29:49

pinpointing their lack of substance.

29:51

Such as how they all bleed into one

29:53

another to the point that Leafy's own

29:55

generalized insults can be used on

29:56

himself. Look at his [ __ ] face. I bet

29:59

you anything he raped someone, killed

30:01

them, and then threw them in the laundry

30:02

and then made this song.

30:03

>> I I know that you're joking. It's very

30:06

obviously a joke. You're just You're

30:08

saying look at his face. His face is a

30:10

rapist face. Look at his dumb rapist

30:12

face. I don't know. Maybe it is funny. A

30:15

after saying it back to myself now. Now

30:17

I think it's funny. I think I think it's

30:19

one of those jokes you really have to

30:20

repeat it a thousand times to really

30:23

understand where the humor comes from.

30:25

Throughout the video, Ian demonstrates

30:26

how Leafy self arandizes, backstabs his

30:29

friends, and most importantly, he does

30:31

what H3 failed to get across. Ian makes

30:34

an argument based on ethics in his own

30:36

playful way while alluding that the

30:38

concept is so simple even children

30:40

understand it. So, that's how I got the

30:42

brilliant idea of writing a children's

30:44

book. It's called Leave Me Alone. I I

30:47

have this scene where he's in an ice

30:49

cream shop and he's got a big stack of

30:52

ice cream covering his chin and he's

30:54

saying some mean [ __ ] to people. And

30:56

then the next scene he's making fun of

30:58

more people, but this time he's got a

30:59

basketball in front of his [ __ ] chin.

31:02

And then finally, he's going to be in

31:04

front of a tree with a leaf covering his

31:07

chin. and there will be a big gust of

31:09

wind coming and the leaf blows away

31:11

exposing his putrid chin. The moral of

31:14

the story is essentially going to be

31:16

treat others the way you want to be

31:18

treated sort of meme. It'll be a cute

31:20

thing, something you can show to your

31:21

kids. Ian's argument is that everyone

31:23

can be criticized and that a punch can

31:25

be returned with a corrective punch.

31:27

Ian's punch was aimed at Leafy's chin,

31:30

which did not appear to be strong enough

31:31

to take it.

31:32

>> Disappeared. Huh?

31:34

>> No, he's just his chin disappeared.

31:36

>> Oh.

31:38

>> [music]

31:39

>> I will wait for you

31:43

till you're

31:47

>> I'm giving away some prizes over here.

31:49

All it takes is

31:52

>> hiding a chin.

31:53

>> You a Leafy fan?

31:54

>> No. Oh, hell yeah. For you. We've got a

31:58

microphone. [music] All right, bro.

32:03

Perfect. That is picture perfect, my

32:05

man. Ian's confidence, his whimsy, the

32:08

moral of the story, the deserving

32:10

target. This was nearly the perfect

32:13

cotton cop. But one element was missing.

32:16

To accentuate all the flavor of this

32:18

video, to solidify the purpose of the

32:20

core Chester, there needs to be a

32:21

response met not in humility, but

32:24

arrogance, which is what Leafy did.

32:26

>> Like, guys, [music] did you hear him? I

32:27

have no chin. What? Hey,

32:35

[music]

32:36

where is it? Where is it? Where is it?

32:40

He stole it.

32:43

[music]

32:45

>> Don't look at me. Don't look at me.

32:47

Don't look at me.

32:53

[ __ ] hell.

32:55

Leafy's response was so uninspired and

32:58

laden with misunderstanding, it proved

33:00

all of Ian's points correct. He also

33:02

attempted to counter shame Ian. This

33:04

called for Ian's own follow-up, which he

33:06

titled Content Deputy.

33:08

>> Ever since the day that Mr. Savage

33:10

himself went for making videos like

33:12

[ __ ] this Gangnam style. [music]

33:17

>> Ah, Slenderman Gangnam style. Excellent

33:21

choice. Damn, Leafy, you got baited. I

33:23

actually played that video in all my

33:25

other videos because I actually like it

33:26

a lot. Cringey Slenderman Gangnam style

33:29

video. You like Slenderman Gangnam

33:31

style, dude. A lesser examined element

33:33

of why Ian was perfect for the role of

33:35

the content cop was because he outwardly

33:37

presented himself as a vile human being.

33:40

Ian said slurs freely, even the most

33:42

taboo, because he constantly and

33:44

intentionally debased himself, meaning

33:45

Leafy was a fool to point out that the

33:48

gesture critiques and dances.

33:50

>> Look at that hairline. What the [ __ ]

33:53

dude? He's actually going [ __ ] bald.

33:56

>> This guy doing the classic receding

33:58

hairline gag. It's a good gag, but

34:01

that's not a [ __ ] receding hairline,

34:02

dude. Let me show what you what a

34:04

receding hairline looks like. Yeah,

34:06

there we go. Now that's a receding

34:08

hairline. Ian's content cop marked the

34:10

beginning of the end for Leafy. In

34:12

successfully taking down a channel that

34:14

was over twice his size, Ian was flooded

34:16

with support and easily gained over

34:17

10,000 subscribers daily. Though growth

34:20

is typically welcome, Ian was quickly

34:22

running into the same issue that plagued

34:24

Leafy and even H3H3 in that as their own

34:27

channels that relied on critique grew,

34:29

the harder their punches would be. It

34:31

was now an event when Idubbbz released a

34:33

new content cop. Ian with now millions

34:35

of subscribers was being looked upon as

34:37

a trends setter. In just 2016, viewers

34:41

latched on to several of his quotes.

34:45

>> I have osteoporosis.

34:50

I have crippling depression.

34:52

>> Hey, that's pretty good.

34:56

[laughter]

34:58

>> Do one more oneliner. Jump down. Jump

35:00

down and then say some [ __ ] gay [ __ ]

35:04

>> I'm gay.

35:07

[laughter]

35:12

>> The cancer crew were a group of five

35:14

popular YouTubers that served to be

35:16

outrageous. They would come together and

35:18

form a modern-day jackass. Fittingly so,

35:20

the members would push each other to act

35:22

even more fullhearted. As these videos

35:24

racked up as many views as individual

35:26

Condop episodes, so did audienc's

35:28

understanding of the individual members

35:30

roles and the camaraderie the group had.

35:33

Anything for views, also known as Chad,

35:35

was a lesserknown creator. How to basic

35:37

was in charge of the camera work as he

35:39

was protective of his identity. Max Mofo

35:42

was likely the first large creator Ian

35:44

ever got into contact with. Yeah. Um,

35:47

and then Max, I'll like like we said

35:50

earlier, I'll always have a soft spot in

35:52

my heart for Max. He was watching my

35:54

videos before anyone else was when I had

35:56

like

35:58

>> 20K subscribers. He's watching my

36:00

videos.

36:00

>> That's really cool.

36:01

>> Um, he can he he It's so [laughter]

36:05

funny. It's so funny to see actual like

36:09

I'll I'll post memes that only people

36:12

will understand if they if they had

36:15

watched like a really old Kickstarter

36:16

crap. And Max knows all those.

36:19

>> He can he can quote my videos word for

36:21

word. And [laughter]

36:23

these people who are like I've been a

36:24

fan since 100 subs. They don't [ __ ]

36:27

[clears throat] know the [ __ ]

36:28

>> That's so he's actually number one I I

36:30

dupes fan.

36:31

>> Oh yeah, Max is a legend. I love Max.

36:33

That was from the H3H3 podcast. While

36:36

they were not a member of the cancer

36:38

crew, they did collaborate and were

36:39

friends with Ian. Ethan for only seconds

36:42

could be seen in Content Cop Leafy. Yet,

36:44

he played a much larger role in the

36:46

Sewer Chicken review, which appears to

36:48

have been filmed at the same time.

36:50

Similarly, on H3's channel, Ian would

36:52

collaborate and provide commentary

36:54

alongside Ethan. There was one character

36:56

that collaborated and could outdo both

36:58

of these creators. the only jester that

37:01

was more effective in the space than

37:02

even Ian, that is Filthy Frank, or

37:05

rather the person behind the character,

37:07

George Miller.

37:10

>> George Miller has influenced culture

37:12

globally in ways some don't realize. In

37:15

2013, on his disaster music channel, he

37:18

sparked the Harlem Shake craze, a

37:20

phenomena that likely has over a billion

37:22

views collectively, where one person

37:24

dances seemingly out of place. The beat

37:26

of the song drops and suddenly everyone

37:28

is dancing regardless of how abnormal

37:30

the circumstances are. George Miller,

37:32

even before he embodied Filthy Frank,

37:34

had the ability to shift culture, even

37:36

if it was not his intent. And just like

37:39

Idubbbz, the Filthy Frank videos were

37:41

not all devoid of commentary. Take for

37:43

example his it's just a prank bro video

37:45

commenting on the prank genre.

37:47

>> But how they do whatever the [ __ ] they

37:49

want and get away with it is is beyond

37:51

me.

37:53

How How are they able to do these

37:55

terrible things and get away with them?

37:58

How do I be racist, misogynistic,

38:00

horrible,

38:03

and get away with it?

38:10

How could I have been this stupid? It's

38:13

so simple now.

38:16

[snorts] I understand now. I understand

38:19

now.

38:22

>> [music]

38:24

>> In the next 7 minutes of the video,

38:26

Filthy Frank harasses strangers to then

38:28

deliver the line, "You just got

38:30

pranked." In these moments, Frank was

38:32

just as bad as the channels he was

38:34

critiquing. George Miller, as he did

38:36

across his videos, would dawn a body

38:38

morph suit. Fitting attire for a jester.

38:41

The difference overall was the purpose.

38:43

Some prank channels would fake their

38:45

pranks for the purpose of driving

38:46

division and obtaining a paycheck. In

38:49

late 2016, creator Joey Salads was

38:51

exposed for this exact thing.

38:53

>> So, it came out that you faked a very

38:56

racist social experiment, three in a

38:59

row. It started with the uh salad lives,

39:02

the black lives matter debating trunk

39:05

prank, and then finally,

39:06

>> I don't want these videos to

39:09

to make anybody look at the entire race

39:11

in that type of way. Well, I I messed up

39:14

with the way that I made the videos

39:16

because I should have

39:18

>> what I should have did was at the end of

39:20

the videos or at the beginning of the

39:22

videos, I should have said disclaimer.

39:25

I'm you know this this is the video I'm

39:27

trying to do. I'm I'm And don't let this

39:30

video judge the entire race, the entire

39:33

culture off the acts of a very few

39:35

individuals.

39:36

>> You kind of specifically say the

39:37

opposite that.

39:38

>> As you can see, black people got really

39:41

emotional. We can see from this video

39:42

the black community is very violent

39:44

towards Trump and his supporters.

39:45

>> Filthy Frank would act in a highly

39:46

offensive fashion at a micro scale to

39:49

point out the absurdity of what was

39:50

happening and effect culture at a macro

39:52

scale. He was not critiquing the concept

39:54

of a prank, but how morally bankrupt

39:56

creators would use it to justify their

39:58

own actions and warp reality to fit

40:00

them. In this way, he does not deny the

40:02

entertainment value of the product, but

40:04

instead challenges the creators intent

40:05

and the audiences who consume it. George

40:08

Miller reinforces that this was the

40:10

concept of the character in the

40:11

channel's description. Quote, "Filthy

40:14

Frank is the embodiment of everything a

40:15

person should not be. He is anti-PC,

40:18

antisocial, and anti-cou. He behaves and

40:22

reacts excessively to everything

40:23

expressly to highlight the

40:24

ridiculousness of racism, misogyny,

40:27

legalism, injustice, ignorance, and

40:29

other social bllights. He also sets an

40:31

example to show how easy it is in the

40:34

social media for any zany material to

40:36

gain traction/f following by simply

40:38

sharing unsavory opinions and joking

40:39

about topics many find offensive. There

40:42

is no denying that the show is terribly

40:44

offensive. But this terrible

40:45

offensiveness is a deliberate and

40:47

unapologetic parody of the whole social

40:49

media machine and a reflection of the

40:51

human microcosm that that social media

40:54

is. Or maybe I'm just [ __ ] retarded."

40:57

unquote. Even with such clear intent,

40:59

there would always be a wide range of

41:01

interpretations. There would be those

41:03

that love Frank solely for being

41:04

offensive, as well as those who hate him

41:06

for that exact same reason. Sick of fans

41:08

and detractors, or perhaps those unaware

41:11

of the concept of the jester, could

41:12

interpret his character in far different

41:14

ways.

41:14

>> Are you an irrational radical feminist?

41:18

Well, here's a tip. Get laid, you fat

41:21

piece of [ __ ]

41:23

Are you an irrational radical

41:25

anti-feminist?

41:27

Well, here's a tip. Get laid, you fat

41:30

piece of [ __ ]

41:32

>> George Miller did well to avoid the

41:33

character becoming too much of an icon

41:35

or enemy. Even so, there was a desire to

41:38

exist outside of his role as a jester.

41:41

Long story short, I was born with this,

41:43

but I was recently diagnosed with a

41:45

brain condition

41:47

um that ironically uh gives me seizures.

41:52

You know, I this whole time we thought

41:54

it was so funny doing these fake

41:56

seizures and now uh some call it bad

42:00

luck, some call it karma, but ironically

42:04

uh boss.

42:05

>> Hey boss, I have a seizure

42:07

>> now. Uh it's it's not extremely

42:09

life-threatening or anything. Um and I'm

42:11

not and I'm not going to go into detail

42:13

uh because obviously I don't I don't

42:15

want you guys looking [ __ ] up. But

42:17

unfortunately uh what happens here is a

42:19

lot of the seizures are actually induced

42:21

by stress which unfortunately uh comes

42:25

from a lot of it comes from running this

42:27

show. One could infer that George Miller

42:30

meant producing the videos was the

42:31

stressful aspect. And while that likely

42:33

did induce strain, as did him doing the

42:35

voice for the character, George points

42:37

to his real personal image or the lack

42:39

of understanding of it being the

42:41

difficult part. Because a lot of the

42:43

stress came from the idea that um you

42:46

guys don't realize that I exist as well

42:50

as a as a human. I I'm I'm There's

42:53

Frank, there's Pink Guy, there's

42:55

Salamander Man. there all these all

42:56

these wonderful [ __ ] living here, but

42:58

then there's me as well. And people not

43:00

knowing that I existed and um that it

43:03

was just these guys really uh gave me a

43:05

lot of stress, you know, um because uh

43:08

I'm I'm a normal person just like the

43:10

rest of you guys.

43:11

>> While this is open to interpretation, it

43:13

could be that that was the core of the

43:15

issue. A desire for the lesser

43:17

understanding segments of his audience

43:18

to understand the offensive material in

43:20

itself is not the point. Filthy Frank is

43:23

not George Miller, but rather his art.

43:25

Possibly to allow his audience to get a

43:27

better understanding of the separation,

43:29

George Miller briefly made a vlogging

43:31

channel which was more true to who he

43:33

was. Even within these vlogs, he found

43:35

it difficult to express all of this. Hey

43:38

guys, upon reviewing my own content in

43:41

the first vlog, I came to realize that

43:43

this really isn't an accurate

43:44

representation of how I actually live. I

43:47

wanted the first vlog to, you know,

43:49

stand out. So, naturally, I released

43:51

footage uh that the vast majority would

43:52

like to see, aka pretty much anything

43:54

that Frank would film and laugh at. But

43:57

then I realized that uh this channel

43:58

really has nothing to do with Filthy

44:00

Frank or anything. And I would like to

44:03

keep it that way. So, I do not go around

44:06

filming old people actually. Like, I it

44:09

was me trying to please everyone yet

44:10

again as as usual. Uh this channel is is

44:13

really for myself. So, if it bores you,

44:16

I'm terribly sorry. My life is pretty

44:19

boring.

44:19

>> George was soon delete these videos as

44:21

they were not entirely wellreceived.

44:24

>> Oh, believe me, I [ __ ] wish I could.

44:26

>> Hey, Max.

44:27

>> Yeah.

44:28

>> Can I uh I see a lot of Joji vlogs

44:30

comments, so can I just address the Joji

44:32

vlogs thing and clear things up?

44:34

>> You can address the vlogs in the room,

44:36

dude.

44:37

>> Yeah, I uh I love doing Joji vlogs, but

44:39

I just had no time. So, unfortunately, I

44:41

did not I I could not continue with it.

44:43

So, I'm sorry. That's that's it.

44:46

>> Come on, dude. Why'd you delay on them?

44:48

You really to get my [ __ ] nerds

44:50

joined.

44:51

>> Oh, no. They're they're still up.

44:52

Someone re-uploaded them. They're up

44:54

there.

44:56

>> Yeah.

44:56

>> Yeah. It's just you don't want to, you

44:58

know, same same reason I delete my

45:00

gaming stuff, man. It's like it's not

45:01

really the channel for that sort of

45:03

thing for me, you know.

45:04

>> George's vlogs were indeed re-uploaded

45:06

by an archavist. The top comment from

45:08

this video shares a popular sentiment

45:10

amongst his audience. Quote, "I think

45:12

what makes these vlogs sad to watch is

45:14

the fact that it was short-lived because

45:16

people shunned him for quote unquote

45:18

breaking the fourth wall, and after

45:19

that, he became bitter and miserable for

45:21

having to be stuck doing a character,"

45:24

unquote. George Miller did play this

45:26

character for at least three more years,

45:28

but 2017 was a different year, where the

45:32

years prior prominent creators formed a

45:33

coalition against the drags of YouTube.

45:36

With increasing pressure from

45:37

traditional media and advertisers, the

45:39

website began to crack down on all forms

45:42

of non-family-friendly content. [music]

45:44

YouTube sought to rid itself of its

45:45

cancer. It poisoned itself even with the

45:48

knowledge that healthy cells would

45:49

suffer too. One only hopes that the

45:52

cancer dies first in targeting prank

45:54

channels, quote unquote kids channels,

45:56

and other forms of unwanted media,

45:58

items, Filthy Frank, H3H3, and even

46:01

creators who were detached from that

46:03

content style were widely being

46:04

affected. H3 had launched their podcast

46:06

which could appeal to YouTube's nebulous

46:08

roles. Filthy Frank and Idubbbz were not

46:11

as malleable. The character of Filthy

46:13

Frank relied on obscinity. Furthermore,

46:15

George Miller had long expressed he

46:17

wanted a different way to express

46:19

himself. And now he was being crushed.

46:21

On one end, YouTube was cracking down on

46:23

his content, meaning to exist, it would

46:25

had to be more family-friendly and

46:26

therefore less expressive. And on the

46:28

other side, he was already creatively

46:30

dissatisfied and stressed with being

46:31

constrained to the character for so

46:33

long. It was time for change.

46:36

>> What finally like gave you the

46:37

confidence to be like, "All right, this

46:39

is it's time for like this to be my

46:42

>> just general uh biological clock type

46:45

shit."

46:46

>> Nice.

46:46

>> You know, it was like, "Oh, like am I am

46:49

I just going to like kind of do this or

46:52

am I am I going to move on and, you

46:54

know, make make bigger and better

46:56

stuff?" You know, cuz that's really what

46:57

it's all about. Like George Miller had

46:59

reincarnated as Joji, a musician seeking

47:01

to express himself with a wider range of

47:03

topics like love or purpose. This was a

47:06

shot in the dark because George Miller

47:08

was insecure about his art as Felty

47:10

Frank. Formerly, he could play with

47:12

serious topics, but also playfully

47:13

discard them as to preempt potential

47:16

criticism. Now, he stripped that veil

47:17

away. As it concerns the story of

47:19

Idubbbz, it is less about the change,

47:21

but how it carefully took place. the fan

47:24

bases. Um, I believe they they get into

47:26

a lot of arguments often. Um, it's

47:30

quickly it's quickly unifying though.

47:32

Um, from what I've seen, uh, when I'm

47:35

out on the street, it's 50/50. Uh,

47:37

people either they're, you know, they

47:39

call me out for the work that they know

47:41

me for. So, you know, the people who who

47:45

are still attached to my old work, you

47:47

know, that's that's fine.

47:48

>> George Miller did not disown his old

47:50

audience or his old art. He was less

47:52

focused on how he was perceived and more

47:54

about who he was. He did abandon Filthy

47:57

Frank and its related channels as a

47:59

message that he was exploring something

48:01

new, but not without a goodbye. In his

48:03

last video on Filthy Frank, he announces

48:05

his book that is purely in the world of

48:06

Filthy Frank. This was not his only

48:08

goodbye. On his second channel, Too Damn

48:10

Filthy, George Miller had been long

48:12

releasing music under the character Pink

48:14

Guy from the Filthy Frank universe. The

48:16

lyrics were overall silly yet sometimes

48:18

serious and sometimes entirely

48:20

nonsensical. On the Filthy Frank

48:22

channel, four tracks were remixed and

48:24

released in collaboration with various

48:26

artists in the form of Pink Guy, the

48:27

Prophecy. This is a music video that

48:29

respects the universe of Filthy Frank

48:31

and is possibly a serious retelling of

48:33

George Miller's story as the character.

48:35

It is likely its own artistic expression

48:37

of George Miller's feelings on the

48:39

channel and why he had to move on. The

48:41

first segment shows that Pink Guy is

48:42

euphoric. He is free in exploring vast

48:45

fields and put alongside iconography

48:47

representing these exact things.

48:48

>> [music]

48:48

>> This could be the joy of first

48:50

discovering the freedom of the

48:51

character. In the last segment of the

48:52

track, the mood changes. Pink guy is no

48:55

longer exploring a vast field, but

48:57

navigating a dead forest. Quote,

48:58

"Classic penis joke inserted with

49:00

appropriate timing because if I ain't

49:02

got a penis line, I ain't dining." No

49:04

homo, but seriously, I'm getting faded

49:05

and my life is like my vids at low

49:07

budget and underrated. Kids, the only

49:09

way to succeed is to chip away at the

49:11

soul." A comment about how he has

49:13

bastardized his art and even creative

49:15

spirit to exist. He is then banished to

49:18

hell. This is when a war version of him

49:20

appears on earth existing to fulfill

49:22

himself not by expression but by pure

49:24

hedonistic activities. This leads to a

49:27

life where he is forced to wear a mask

49:28

and ultimately dies unfulfilled and

49:30

untrue to himself. Finally, he is

49:32

reincarnated and finds fulfillment

49:34

through music. This is possibly alluding

49:36

to his music under Pink Eye and

49:37

continues to produce highly offensive

49:39

music, but then realizes the potential

49:41

damage of what was being said. Quote,

49:43

"That was a little dark, very poor

49:44

taste. I shouldn't have said that."

49:46

unquote. The unique part about this line

49:48

is in the original track, Pink Eyee

49:50

doubles down on this comment. Not just

49:51

taking his apology back, but also

49:53

reinforcing his desire to be

49:55

unconstrained. This is why this more

49:57

artistic rendition that lack the double

49:58

down could be more accurate to the

50:00

feelings of George Miller. The closing

50:02

track is the shortest. It is the first

50:04

time in the music video that Pink Guy is

50:06

producing a video where he plays with

50:07

wantons and makes safe, therefore

50:09

uninspired videos. The commentary here

50:12

is the lack of it. to look at how George

50:14

Miller reincarnated and has been

50:15

constrained by the pink eye character,

50:17

his audience, and YouTube's policies. It

50:19

would not make sense to look at his

50:21

entire journey and then for him to

50:23

continue in a way that was dishonest to

50:24

himself and unbecoming of the character.

50:26

With that, George Miller would go on to

50:28

embrace Joji and succeed to the point

50:30

that his art both existed on its own and

50:32

its popularity would lead him to perform

50:34

at Madison Square Garden. Ian would

50:36

begin at the same place yet end up

50:38

somewhere far different. I think

50:39

generally it was just kind of like

50:41

wanting a little bit more something was

50:43

a little bit more rewarding, fulfilling.

50:45

So that's kind of why I like started to,

50:48

you know, move away from it.

50:49

>> And you've said that anyone who focuses

50:53

their entire career on making edgy

50:54

content, edgy jokes, eventually finds

50:57

themselves wanting to to do something

50:59

more fulfilling with their lives.

51:01

>> Totally. Ian would reflect on his

51:03

content. He will later speak of how

51:05

while some videos were impactful in the

51:06

ways he desired, such as the Leafy

51:08

Content Cop, others he would regret for

51:10

how they were interpreted and to the

51:12

extents he went to prove a point. There

51:14

was a growing voice of displeasure

51:16

analyzing not the purpose of Idubbbz,

51:18

but rather only isolating his actions.

51:20

Content creator Tanojo was one of these

51:22

people. Though she was unfamiliar with

51:24

Ian, she was furious at the slurs

51:26

Idubbbz used to the point that she

51:27

demanded he end it himself.

51:29

>> Now, this is a story all about how I was

51:31

involved in a shooting. For those of you

51:34

who don't follow the drama, I'll give

51:35

you a brief rundown of what's happened

51:37

so far. A couple months ago, Tana Mojo

51:40

tweeted at me that she was very unhappy

51:42

with my use of the N-word. I didn't

51:44

respond to her tweet. Instead, I did a

51:47

bit of research and I found out that she

51:48

used the dreaded nword in the past, but

51:51

she didn't use the n-word in the same

51:53

way that I use it. She used it in a very

51:56

mean-spirited way. You know, you [ __ ]

52:01

>> growing up in Vegas, everybody said

52:02

those words and I didn't even know that

52:04

they were considered racist at all. They

52:06

were in rap songs and I totally thought

52:07

it just meant like homie or like friend.

52:09

>> Tana Mojo was arguing that saying the

52:11

n-word was a high crime. This is not a

52:14

unique perspective, but was hypocritical

52:16

coming from Tana as she had used that

52:18

word in the past in a derogatory

52:19

fashion. This is what inspired Ian's

52:21

content cop honor, covering her

52:23

hypocrisy and how she embellishes her

52:25

stories. What else can be said about

52:27

this topic that hasn't been said

52:28

already? And not much. Pretty much

52:30

everyone said it already, but uh here's

52:32

some clips of Tana saying that context

52:34

isn't important.

52:35

>> Okay, but when you but when you're

52:37

reading it, even if you're just saying

52:38

it, even if you're reading something

52:39

that somebody else says, you're saying,

52:42

"I'm a white person and I think it's

52:43

okay to say that word." It doesn't

52:44

matter the context that you say it in,

52:46

it's still racist.

52:47

>> It doesn't matter the context you say it

52:50

in. It's still racist. Listen up,

52:52

teachers of America. If you've ever read

52:54

aloud huckleberry fin to your students,

52:57

you've engaged in an act of racism.

53:00

>> The supporters call themselves nword.

53:02

Like that's what they call each other.

53:06

>> Whoa. Tana, you going to drop the fbomb

53:09

like that.

53:09

>> And how content cop Leafy was a message

53:11

about treating others how you would like

53:13

to be treated. Content cop Tana was an

53:15

argument that the nword holds power

53:17

because it is taboo.

53:18

>> People didn't get their [ __ ] heads

53:20

ran over in World War II. They weren't

53:22

thrown into internment camps. But yeah,

53:25

but you but you can't say that one

53:28

because it's got sort of a it's

53:30

guttural. Either all of them are okay or

53:33

none of them are okay. I think that was

53:34

my like it was like a combination of a

53:37

lot of things in that video that I think

53:38

led to um me regretting it and being

53:43

like, "Oh, this is like too much." Like

53:45

I went way too like

53:47

>> I think the most interesting thing about

53:49

that video is the it's either all okay

53:51

or none of it's okay.

53:52

>> It was one of these statements that was

53:54

like it like I wanted something that

53:56

sounded strong and like yeah punchy. And

53:59

that's exactly what you know I thought

54:02

worked. It's funny like the amount of

54:04

people who I I've talked to now that

54:07

were like oh yeah when you said that

54:09

like I did interpret it as like yeah

54:12

none of it's okay. That's how I That's

54:14

how [laughter] I was like, "Yeah, I

54:15

agree."

54:16

>> Yeah.

54:16

>> Ian would later regret having such a

54:18

strong statement in his video. But just

54:20

like the Leafy one, the message was also

54:22

to be consistent. But the jester must

54:24

dance. And dance he did. It's incredible

54:27

how much more intelligent you would have

54:28

looked if during the event where I came

54:31

and said, if you just said, "Wow, you're

54:35

a very uncomfortable person and you're

54:37

not very funny. What a pathetic joke."

54:40

You would have just destroyed me. But

54:42

you couldn't do that because you're the

54:44

most predictable human being on the

54:46

planet.

54:54

>> Say

54:58

he walks up to me. He kind of like locks

55:00

his arm around me like around my neck

55:02

like this. And it it wasn't like it was

55:04

like a choke hold or anything. It was it

55:05

was very like firm and like tight like I

55:07

couldn't have really gotten it out if

55:08

that makes sense. I'll explain that in a

55:10

second. And so the guy looks at me and

55:11

he wraps his arms around me and he looks

55:12

in the camera and he goes, "Say." And he

55:15

puts his thumbs up and [music] then like

55:16

blink and he says the n word like hard r

55:20

n word like say n word like hard r like

55:23

[music] smiling loud as [ __ ] like yells

55:25

it and like looks at me and looks at me

55:27

like say.

55:30

>> Approaching Tana at a meet and greet was

55:32

Ian's girlfriend's idea. One that proved

55:34

to be fruitful as Tana had embellished

55:36

the story by misreporting how Ian had

55:38

held her. Ian would demonstrate how

55:40

dishonest Hannah was. Even so, there was

55:42

a guilt building because she was young

55:44

and Ian had placed her in an

55:46

uncomfortable position regardless of the

55:47

point he was trying to prove.

55:49

>> And I, you know, created a situation

55:50

where like she couldn't, you know, just

55:52

walk away from it. I entered her life

55:55

and uh that's too much.

55:57

>> Mhm.

55:58

>> Tana shortly after the Content Cop

56:00

released a video reflecting on the brunt

56:02

of Ian's words and the online mob that

56:04

formed around them. She explains that

56:06

she said those slurs as a freshman in

56:08

high school and has apologized for them,

56:09

but has come to the conclusion that

56:11

those apologies were deceitful and not

56:13

enough.

56:13

>> All in all, I said the n-word in those

56:16

videos. I knew what it meant regardless

56:18

of me knowing the depth of it or the

56:20

pain behind it or anything like that. I

56:22

knew that it was a slur and my friends

56:24

and I thought it was shocking and

56:26

offensive and funny to say to Omari cuz

56:28

he was black and he was okay with it and

56:30

he thought it was funny and blah blah

56:31

blah. And so I made stupid vines like

56:33

that. Had this not happened to me, had

56:36

Idubbbz not made that video, had the

56:38

entire world been looking at my channel

56:40

under this microscope and criticizing me

56:42

and calling me out for my wrongs, I

56:44

would have never made this video. I

56:46

would have never owned up to it. I would

56:48

have never had to face it the way that I

56:50

am right now. I would have continued to

56:52

give half-ass shitty apologies like I

56:54

was previously. I would have continued

56:56

to push it under the rug and run away

56:58

from my problems like I always do. I

57:00

would have never made a video like this

57:02

because I would have been too afraid.

57:03

and in a really [ __ ] up weird way. I

57:06

am glad all of this is happening.

57:08

>> Ian had once again successfully shamed

57:11

the target for the better. Tana

57:12

expressed just as much and added that it

57:15

took something that crude to make a

57:16

point. Though the commenters were not so

57:18

ready to accept Tana's quick turnaround,

57:20

later interviews would demonstrate how

57:22

she had internalized what Ian said.

57:24

>> Yeah, 100%. And the Condop was good at

57:26

>> I feel like you you've like swallowed up

57:28

this like self-guilt at the end of the

57:30

day. You were calling out a white dude

57:32

for saying the N word. That's pretty

57:33

common, right?

57:34

>> But where did I have the room to call

57:36

him out? You know,

57:37

>> about 2 months after the Tana Content

57:39

Cop, Ian appeared as a guest for episode

57:41

4 of the H3 podcast. Within he expresses

57:44

his sympathies for some of the creators

57:45

he has targeted and why he feels his

57:47

fine bros content cop was cruel after he

57:49

had met one of them. some of the

57:51

commentary channels out there is a when

57:53

they go in really hard, I'm like,

57:56

>> you need to interact with these people

57:58

that you make fun of in real life just

57:59

to be reminded

58:01

>> of what you're actually doing kind of

58:03

thing.

58:04

>> Uh so interacting with Rafie

58:06

>> when you see his face and you're like

58:07

and then you recall all the terrible

58:09

things you said about it and you're like

58:11

[ __ ] like

58:12

>> exactly

58:13

>> this is real life. He felt this [ __ ]

58:15

>> I the the the the internet wall is no

58:18

longer there. 5T

58:21

it becomes real.

58:22

>> That's an interest also it happens when

58:25

your channel becomes big because then

58:27

most of the times the videos you make

58:29

they're definitely going to see like

58:31

when you're a small channel you don't

58:33

know who's going to watch your videos. I

58:34

was much more loose with my lips on

58:37

Twitter and everywhere else when I was

58:39

smaller.

58:40

>> And now I have to kind of

58:43

>> if I say like when I was smaller I would

58:45

have without a heartbeat said some mean

58:48

[ __ ] about PewDiePie.

58:50

>> But now I would be like

58:52

>> he's my friend.

58:53

>> He's my friend.

58:54

>> I like him.

58:55

>> He's wonderful Swede.

58:57

>> In October of 2017, Idubbbz would

59:00

release his final content cop and also

59:01

content deputy of the original series.

59:03

This time Ian targeted creator Ricegum.

59:06

It even included a cameo from the

59:07

largest creator on YouTube and this was

59:09

a peak of Idubbbz in terms of

59:11

viewership. From November 2016 to

59:14

November 2017, Idubbbz uploaded around

59:16

25 videos. Then from November 2017 to

59:20

January 2019, Idubbbz had only uploaded

59:23

12 times on Idubbbz TV. This is less

59:25

than once a month. These were a mix of

59:27

the Idubbbz complain series where Ian

59:29

critiques lottery food portions

59:31

specifically how restaurants give them

59:33

esoteric names and so on. And he also

59:35

released another legit food review with

59:37

his most common collaborator H3H3.

59:40

>> It's a really beautiful day. Glorious

59:42

day almost would you even say

59:43

>> it's all right. [music] I think it's

59:46

Did you hear that? Pretty sure that's a

59:48

new Tuckerberry.

59:48

>> Tuckerberry.

59:49

>> Tuckerberry.

59:50

>> Oh tuck. Yeah, that's not it. It didn't

59:52

sound like a cuckerberry.

59:53

>> Are you going to do any cuck jokes on

59:55

the show? I want to keep those to a

59:56

minimum. All right.

59:57

>> No [ __ ] jokes. He's starting to sound

59:58

like a soy boy.

59:59

>> Yeah.

60:00

>> While Ian could have been unserious

60:02

about Ethan keeping the [ __ ] jokes to

60:04

minimum, [ __ ] or cuckled could have been

60:06

a more commonly used insult against

60:08

Idubbbz. Cuckled can be described simply

60:10

as quote a man whose wife is sexually

60:12

unfaithful regarded as an object of

60:14

derision. Unquote. This is what some

60:16

segments of the internet saw Ana Jamaa

60:19

Ian's girlfriend as. They started dating

60:21

around late 2016. Ana, as a not so

60:24

popular Twitch streamer, would get a

60:26

boost of attention from Ian's audience.

60:28

>> I found a lot of purpose and love in

60:30

streaming.

60:31

>> That was my passion. But when we learned

60:34

that

60:35

>> that wasn't uh something that was

60:37

viable, there was just so much hate.

60:39

Yeah. I would get people either coming

60:40

and asking about you constantly or like

60:43

hate towards me or hate towards you or

60:46

you know um

60:48

>> it I my career the thing that I've

60:51

really loved like

60:52

>> I couldn't do it. Yeah.

60:54

>> You know I just couldn't do it.

60:55

>> Even though Nissa had her reservations,

60:57

she would continue to stream and exist

60:59

as a public figure. The most popular

61:01

videos on her in the late 2010s would

61:03

not mention by name, only as Idubbb's

61:06

girlfriend. The best example of this is

61:08

by creator Britney Venty's takedown of

61:10

Ana where Venty drives the narrative

61:12

that Ana started dating Ian while she

61:14

was dating someone else.

61:15

>> I met somebody whilst I was in an on

61:17

andoff relationship that was [ __ ] but

61:20

wasn't very public about the shittiness

61:22

of it. Um, but I never cheated on

61:25

anybody. It's almost like I I don't know

61:27

what it is why people feel the need to

61:29

cheat. There is never a valid excuse for

61:32

cheating. Never, ever, ever does

61:35

somebody have a valid excuse for

61:36

cheating. But I guess somebody can have

61:38

a valid excuse for trading up like she

61:41

did. I mean, after all, she did the

61:43

right thing. She did nothing wrong

61:44

because it only took her a few hours of

61:47

talking to Idubbbz platonically to

61:49

realize that she needed to break up with

61:52

her current boyfriend for him.

61:53

>> Feel like that's okay. Like, I mean,

61:55

like, I'm not going to lie. I'm not

61:56

going to lie. My significant other that

61:58

I'm with now, like I when I met him, I

62:01

was dating somebody else. Ana could be

62:03

seen possibly flirting with other

62:04

content creators in 2017, particularly

62:07

with Chris Reagan. It did not help that

62:09

she was outspoken against at the time

62:11

popular creators. Now, our first story

62:13

is coming from Ana, also known as

62:17

Idubbbz's girlfriend. Ana was streaming

62:20

on Twitch and somebody in the chat asked

62:22

her what she thought about Ice Poseidon,

62:24

the in real life streamer here on

62:26

YouTube. He was on Twitch, but then he

62:28

got banned. And this is what she said.

62:31

Roll it.

62:32

>> Ice Poseidon

62:34

is successful not because he is

62:37

intelligent

62:39

or hardworking.

62:41

Ice Poseidon is successful because he

62:43

figured out that he could exploit his

62:46

douchebaggery

62:47

and overall

62:50

laziness.

62:52

I'm not a fan of him. I do not enjoy his

62:54

YouTube videos. I don't enjoy his live

62:56

streams. I cringe at when he said to

63:00

that woman that he's famous. I don't

63:01

enjoy him. I don't like him.

63:03

>> She also commented on Pyroynical's

63:05

commentary on female streamers

63:06

>> section. I mean, you can just see with

63:07

this clip, look how small the screen is

63:08

for the game. Jesus. And I know that

63:09

mentality that's been said before, don't

63:10

like it, don't watch it. The problem is

63:11

you're bringing a lot of kids on the

63:13

>> Why do people always make that argument?

63:14

Like, there's no way when she's playing

63:15

the actual game that it's that size.

63:17

Like, what the hell is that? I can

63:19

already see the headline now. I love

63:22

girlfriend says mean things about

63:24

Pyroynical in her stream. Ana in the

63:26

space was a PR nightmare. Where Ian

63:29

takes a colder, logical approach, yet is

63:31

not at all devoid of empathy as he

63:33

considers how his videos will affect his

63:35

targets, Ana takes a non-filtered,

63:37

emotional approach, as was made clear in

63:39

this debate against creator Vegan Gains.

63:41

Hey everyone. So, the other day I

63:43

debated Ana J or Yoma. I don't know how

63:47

to pronounce her last name, but some of

63:49

you may know her as Idubbbz's

63:51

girlfriend. And the debate proposition

63:54

was that vegan diets are superior in

63:56

terms of health compared to omnivorous

63:58

diets.

63:59

>> The theme of this whole discussion is

64:01

that like confidence comes off as

64:04

correctness, but I don't think that

64:05

that's

64:06

>> okay. Well, I I'm confident because I've

64:08

talked about this like literally every

64:09

day. It's my job.

64:11

>> Yeah. I mean, but I'm just saying I just

64:13

think that's the theme of what

64:16

valid arguments. I think that maybe I

64:17

just don't have the pay. I mean, which

64:19

is whatever. It's fine.

64:20

>> Well, Yeah. Like like it's fine. I I

64:24

don't think you're really prepared to

64:25

have a debate with this against me. Like

64:28

really someone like Lane

64:29

>> Nortoning like terrible thing to say.

64:32

Like

64:32

>> no it's not like look there's look

64:35

you're I'm not expecting everyone I come

64:37

across to be experts in nutrition or

64:39

know as much as me.

64:40

>> People ever listen to your stuff and

64:42

just go like man I went a little [ __ ]

64:44

hard there. Do you ever do that?

64:46

>> Um no. Like look, I'm a very direct

64:49

confrontational person. So

64:51

>> yeah, I know. I'm just I

64:53

>> There's nothing Look like I don't think

64:55

you're less of a person or stupid or

64:58

something for not knowing this stuff.

65:00

I'm not trying to suggest that.

65:01

>> You have a great talent of making people

65:03

look stupid. If you if this is your view

65:05

of winning, which is

65:08

>> talking very aggressively for a period

65:10

of time, very confident, you've won,

65:13

man. Like

65:14

>> I've made arguments. Despite how the

65:16

debate went, some allegedly saw Ana as

65:18

the victor.

65:19

>> So, I did watch Ana's stream on her

65:21

Twitch channel and a lot of her

65:23

followers were in support of her and

65:26

actually believe that she won the

65:28

debate, which is a little surprising

65:30

considering how miserably she lost.

65:32

>> In the nature that relationships or

65:34

friendships or general experiences

65:36

change someone, Ian was beginning to

65:38

change himself to better interact with

65:39

Ana. I would get triggered by any form

65:42

of abandonment basically and I would go

65:44

into 5-year-old brain

65:46

>> which for him was horrible obviously

65:50

that was like a really

65:50

>> I was always trying to like logic it out

65:52

and I'm like man [laughter] what the

65:54

hell she isn't listening to my logic and

65:56

my reason

65:57

>> could not get it to work

65:58

>> but it did finally click when she did

66:01

explain like I was going into 5-year-old

66:03

mode I'm like oh yeah like

66:06

>> that's literally what it was

66:07

>> if that's what it is then what am I

66:09

doing trying to like, you know, give you

66:11

a list of like, you know, things to

66:15

>> why it's not a problem or whatever.

66:17

>> Ian reflected on his content cops and

66:19

the damage they did to their targets

66:20

like Tana and Jinx. The fact did not

66:22

change that Ian was a tool to shame

66:25

others. And now that he was being shamed

66:26

for his partner, there was a deeper

66:28

regret for bringing on shame to others.

66:30

Like with Joji, Ian was shifting his

66:32

efforts towards a different endeavor.

66:34

But unlike Joji, it was not a

66:36

reinvention, but an extension. He was

66:38

now uploading more frequently on his

66:40

second channel, Idubbbz TV, too. Rather

66:42

than create something culturally

66:43

impactful or artistically meaningful,

66:45

Ian was going the route of least

66:47

damaging, one of pacivity. In essence,

66:49

he was creating a vlogging series that's

66:51

driving narrative was relocating the

66:53

scrolls in his backyard. And for the

66:55

time, viewers were invested. He was

66:57

getting millions of views in the series,

66:59

and there did seem to be some ambition

67:00

when it came to criticizing a specific

67:02

brand of yogurt.

67:08

You just watched me eat three yogurt

67:10

cups. And in that time, 12 animals died.

67:14

They died

67:16

from this. Not just any yogurt cup, a Y

67:20

play yogurt cup. Yo play. You know the

67:22

little uh the little red leaves, the red

67:25

or the red flower petals on the Y play

67:27

logo? Those are actually petals soaked

67:30

in blood from the animals that recently

67:32

died because they had their heads

67:34

trapped inside of a Yoplay yogurt

67:37

container. And Yoplay, we are we're

67:40

saying no way. # no way. Yo play, we are

67:44

going to boycott your company until you

67:46

solve this problem. And you don't even

67:48

want to know what that means. I have an

67:50

army behind me. What do you have?

67:52

Where's your social media presence? This

67:54

is your only warning, yo play. The top

67:56

comments are assuming that Ian's targets

67:58

have changed from criticizing creators

68:00

to going after companies that are worthy

68:02

of a content cop. Logically, this would

68:04

make sense. This could enact welcome

68:06

change and Ian would not need to temper

68:08

his blows as he did when critiquing

68:10

creators. Though viewers would soon be

68:12

disappointed. All right, so about 14

68:15

days ago, I issued a challenge to Yo

68:17

Play. I asked them to change their cup

68:21

design, come up with something new. We

68:23

didn't hear anything in response. A lot

68:26

of you, I noticed, thought that I had

68:29

some sort of grand plan, some sort of

68:32

grand scheme. Sure, I [clears throat] I

68:33

still want Yo Play to change their

68:35

design. I don't know how I'm going to

68:36

get them to do that. I'm open to

68:38

suggestions from you guys, but I'm not

68:39

this all knowing wizard that can snap my

68:42

fingers and make a a large corporation

68:44

like General Mills just decide, "Oh,

68:47

well, he's spooked us, so we're going to

68:49

change it." No, it's not anything

68:51

extreme. Sorry, Phil. I'm not going to

68:53

murder someone for a YouTube video.

68:55

>> Idas revealed his hand and showed that

68:57

he was no longer holding the Joker card

68:59

or any card for that matter. This

69:01

multi-ep episode series, Tracking

69:03

Squirrels in his backyard, was only a

69:05

vlogging series. Quote, "This is the

69:06

oddest pivot in content for a YouTuber.

69:08

I feel like at this point, this series

69:10

is just Ian doing yard work and getting

69:12

content from it. I can no longer tell if

69:14

this is a joke or if I had a stroke."

69:16

unquote. The comments, while still

69:18

engaged, were speaking of being confused

69:20

at the lack of purpose of Ian's content.

69:22

Yet, there were other comments realizing

69:24

that there was no purpose. Ian was

69:26

moving away from his profession as

69:28

Chester as Ian showed displeasure

69:30

towards these viewers. Are you watching

69:32

Idubbb Squirrel content? I DON'T LIKE

69:34

Idubbbz anymore. All he's doing is

69:36

playing with his squirrels. I like

69:39

Felix. PewDiePie is so funny. He makes

69:43

you news anyone. Uh, it's fun. It's all

69:47

good fun.

69:47

>> Ian did have ambition, just not with his

69:50

vlogs. On main channel Idubbbz, he

69:52

released Full Force, a documentary that

69:54

explores the day-to-day life of fallen

69:56

content creator airsoft Fatty. It is a

69:58

colorful and bizarre exploration of the

70:00

star airsoft Fatty that also makes it a

70:02

point to bring light to various

70:04

supporting characters that are obscure

70:05

in their own right. They all have

70:07

different motivations and key

70:09

personality traits that Ian fleshes out.

70:11

The documentary as an exploration of

70:13

airsoft fatty also exposes his lack of

70:15

aptitude in any regard. This extends to

70:18

house upkeep, cleaning, cooking

70:20

forthought. There is a looming feeling

70:21

of dread as Fatty will inevitably be met

70:24

with a terrible fate based on his

70:25

innocence and ineptitude. But Ian does

70:28

not further explore this. Instead, he

70:29

celebrates airsoft Fattie's innocence

70:31

and positive outlook on life, which

70:33

accurately highlights the tone Ian set

70:35

for the documentary. And the best words

70:37

I have ever heard have come from the

70:39

worst version of an old old cartoon used

70:41

to watch Yu-Gi-Oh. It's the most recent.

70:43

The main character states that his

70:45

father told him, "When you want to cry,

70:47

laugh. When you want to frown, smile."

70:49

Cuz it's like, "Why go around feeling

70:51

like [ __ ] all the time? Sure, you're

70:53

going to have your days, but get up.

70:55

Dust yourself off for God's sake. We're

70:58

humans. We're born to get back up."

71:00

Outside of the content cops, Full Force

71:02

is the most viewed video on Ian's

71:04

channel, and the top comments are all

71:05

engaging with the video as an isolated

71:07

documentary detached from Ian's former

71:09

work, yet also expressed frustration at

71:11

the smaller segments of viewers that did

71:13

not engage with the documentary in the

71:15

way he wanted. Am I the only one who

71:17

thinks uh Full Force is a Shane Dawson

71:19

content cop? Are you Are you mentally

71:23

ill? This reminds me a lot of a tagged

71:25

photo I saw on Instagram where someone

71:27

said, "Idubbbz did a documentary in only

71:30

a month." What what takes Shane Dawson

71:32

many months to do. Let me explain what

71:35

that sounds like in a more poetic way

71:38

that you might be able to understand.

71:40

No, I I can't have a girlfriend right

71:43

now. No, I can't have a girlfriend right

71:46

now. I have a job. I can't have a

71:48

girlfriend right now. I got a job.

71:49

Sorry. I work at McDonald's three days a

71:52

week. One could infer by Ian's lack of

71:54

content cops, his save the scroll

71:56

series, his last bad unboxing for what

71:58

would be several years that he was

72:00

taking a different approach. In late

72:01

2019, Ian uploaded world's largest toy

72:04

popper, creating a large toy popper that

72:06

amplified its destructive ability. It is

72:08

a video about trial and error and taking

72:10

this toy to the limit of what a human

72:12

can quote unquote play with. This would

72:14

sit as the third most viewed video on

72:15

Ian's channel. The top comments were not

72:17

only in full support, but also someone

72:19

understanding in the direction Ian was

72:21

taking his channel. Quote, "Man went

72:23

from bullying YouTube villains to

72:24

playing with rubbers." "Never in my life

72:26

did I think YouTube would promote an

72:28

Idubbbz video to number one on trending.

72:30

It seems like you genuinely enjoyed

72:32

yourself doing this, and you weren't

72:33

super cynical about it. Keep having fun,

72:35

man." Ian was succeeding in his

72:37

transition that could not have come at a

72:39

better time. In December 2019, YouTube

72:42

removed Content Cop Leafy, a casualty of

72:44

its new harassment policy and a warning

72:46

to anyone that would attempt to revive

72:48

that era of YouTube. This was an action

72:50

that did not need to exist to deter Ian

72:52

to returning to who he was. He was not

72:54

even able to fully realize a new

72:56

accepted version of himself because of

72:58

what would happen the following year. On

73:00

March 9th, 2020, at 10:36 a.m., Anissa

73:04

announced on Twitter that she was

73:05

opening up and only fans. While her

73:07

followers and allegedly Ian were

73:09

supportive, there were a fair amount of

73:11

people turning the situation into

73:12

comedy, making memes and looking further

73:14

into who Ana was. He was calling out a

73:17

YouTuber that no one liked, everyone

73:19

hated, and had a fan base of just

73:21

children. And now he's been reduced to

73:23

an absolute [ __ ] boy. Man, how does

73:26

this even happen? There's memes all over

73:29

this subre about how much he's a basic

73:31

[ __ ] And there's a lot of people that

73:32

are making summaries for why he's

73:33

getting this much hate. Whether this has

73:35

just turned into a meme or not, a lot of

73:37

people seem to agree. Like this video,

73:40

Idubbbz is a simp dubs. Play some kind

73:43

of sound effect, please. S dubs. Then

73:46

we've got, "Babe, it's 400 p.m. Time for

73:49

my only fan shoot." Yes, honey. You get

73:52

me?

73:52

>> They don't feel fake like already and I

73:56

I can't I'm really I don't like

74:00

extensions.

74:00

>> Does she have fake tits? Oh my god. No

74:03

way. So, she has faked tits. Honestly,

74:05

I'm not here to [ __ ] on her. I don't

74:07

care. She makes content. She has people

74:08

that enjoys it. That's all that gives a

74:10

[ __ ] Idubbbz, I just feel like he's

74:11

getting he's getting a bit he's getting

74:13

cucked. I just feel like he's just

74:14

getting a bit he's just getting cucked.

74:15

>> Ian's community at large were either

74:17

unaware or did not care, even though the

74:19

memes made it seem like they did, and

74:21

the YouTube search autocomplete appeared

74:23

to feed them. Overall, his channel was

74:25

hardly affected, but Ian was. If there

74:27

had to be a moment where Ian's

74:28

trajectory changed, it was this video

74:30

posted March 28th. Hello everyone.

74:33

Welcome back to another episode of

74:34

Idubbbz Complaints. This is a very

74:37

special episode where I get to tackle

74:40

two topics that I've recently become

74:42

very passionate about. That is a section

74:45

of my audience who thinks they know me

74:47

and my opinion on sex work. My

74:50

girlfriend started an Only Fans account,

74:52

which is a website where you can upload

74:54

amateur porn. anything from double

74:57

penetration all the way over to LWD

75:00

cosplay and everything in between. And

75:03

uh I think all of it is cool. Yeah, I

75:07

know. I I didn't think it would be a

75:09

controversial opinion either. A good

75:11

amount of people are just doing the

75:13

reasonable thing and just making jokes

75:15

and laughing about it, but there's a

75:18

whole another group of people who feel

75:21

personally devastated and betrayed. Ian

75:24

was making a video targeted at his most

75:26

deranged attractors, perhaps even just

75:28

1% of his audience. But his commentary

75:30

would affect more than just that

75:31

audience.

75:32

>> I don't know where you got the idea that

75:34

I was cool. Do you think it was cool

75:36

when I was when I was playing with anal

75:38

beads? It's cool when I play with anal

75:40

beads. Do you think it was cool when I

75:43

was running around in an oversized cop

75:44

outfit?

75:45

>> Quote, "You thought it was cool when I

75:47

was running around in an oversized cop

75:48

outfit? That was cool to you, everyone?

75:50

Yes. I thought it was cool when you were

75:52

running around in an oversized cop

75:54

uniform." In trying to challenge the

75:56

taste of a socially inept individual, he

75:58

was insulting his audience at large. The

76:00

split like to dislike ratio was arguably

76:02

not from the only fans, but from the

76:04

lack of understanding of how little his

76:05

audience cared on either side, as all of

76:07

the top comments do not care for the

76:09

drama or for the only fans. Ian also

76:11

made the mistake in showing that one of

76:13

the comments he was reading from had a

76:14

single like. This was possibly the least

76:16

thought out thing Ian has done on his

76:18

channel. A part of the issue is that he

76:20

overstates his own value and forgets

76:22

what his role was. The jester was a

76:24

public servant that could translate to

76:26

the public's grievances. Now, the former

76:28

jester called a town meeting where he

76:30

targeted the lower citizenry that

76:31

challenged his lifestyle while insulting

76:33

the public.

76:34

>> And then future jobs, they might be a

76:36

little bit harder to come by. I think

76:38

this is one of the most important

76:39

opinions to highlight because it really

76:41

demonstrates a severe lack of real world

76:44

experience when you're saying that

76:47

future jobs are going to be harder to

76:49

come by because of an Only Fans account.

76:51

Like if you think this affects your

76:53

standing or your social credibility in

76:56

getting jobs, you are so sadly mistaken.

77:00

Ian challenges the idea that employers

77:02

wrote background checks or that if they

77:03

did and would not hire based on sex

77:05

work, then the employer is immoral. And

77:07

I will also say if you want a morally

77:09

grandstand, one of the shittiest things

77:12

that I think you can do morally is

77:15

judging someone about what they did

77:17

previously and not hiring them even

77:20

though they're qualified for the job.

77:22

>> To close the video, Ian expresses his

77:24

desire to address the hecklers. Hecklers

77:26

that the crowd were now beginning to

77:27

appreciate. sell their body online

77:29

[ __ ] suck. That's the worst.

77:33

Instead of ignoring that and just moving

77:36

on with my lecture, it might be a better

77:38

idea to point those people out and say,

77:41

"Yeah, I actually don't agree with that

77:43

shitty opinion." Um, because it it seems

77:46

like me just ignoring it has led to like

77:50

a cultivation of a bunch of retards.

77:53

Following this video, Ian lost around

77:54

20,000 subscribers and greatly increased

77:57

conversation around Nissa's only fans.

77:59

The goal was to be more obvious with his

78:00

intent, perhaps to quell some

78:02

dissatisfaction. The result proved to be

78:04

the opposite. I think people are way too

78:07

[ __ ] invested in internet

78:08

celebrities, and it's just genuinely

78:10

pathetic. Now, I don't agree with every

78:12

point Idubbbz made in the video, and I

78:14

don't think that's a big deal. I don't

78:15

[ __ ] hate him because I disagreed

78:16

with a couple of points, and I think

78:18

overall this shouldn't have even been a

78:20

controversy in the first place. She made

78:22

$40,000 selling no nudity on Only Fans.

78:25

It's [ __ ] Instagram pictures. That's

78:27

genius. It's free money. And then people

78:30

calling Idubbbz a cuck about how she's

78:32

going to get a new boyfriend from Only

78:34

Fans. Are you out of your [ __ ] mind?

78:36

Do you think the Easter Bunny is real,

78:37

too? In this video, Idubbbz kind of

78:40

attacks his own fan base. So, obviously,

78:43

a lot of them are not going to be happy

78:45

with it. And I think that's why this has

78:46

so many dislikes. But guys, listen. It's

78:48

not all hate. There are a lot of fans

78:50

that are still defending Idubbbz and

78:52

even other content creators like

78:55

Idubbbz's good friend H3H3. He quickly

78:58

responded on Twitter saying this. The

79:00

war against the incelss has begun. Chad

79:03

Army represent. Even Leafy came back to

79:05

comment on this.

79:07

>> Yeah, I know. I dude, you're a [ __ ]

79:09

cuck.

79:11

[music and singing]

79:12

>> Out of all the videos, PewDiePie was

79:14

likely the closest to understanding what

79:16

was happening behind the scenes. For

79:18

someone that's been stuck in drama, you

79:19

know, what we're seeing is just the tip

79:22

of the iceberg. What Ian and his

79:23

girlfriend is going through is probably

79:25

10 times worse with people harassing,

79:27

digging through old stuff, private

79:30

messaging, all this sort of stuff that

79:31

kind of spirals up over a long time.

79:33

Yeah, it's frustrating. I'd be pissed,

79:34

too. And I think that's why that's the

79:36

reason why he comes across uh as if he's

79:39

pretending to be okay with this when he

79:41

really is not. And once it started

79:43

getting directed at both of us and it

79:45

was this wave almost like a a a content

79:49

cop level wave of hate that usually

79:51

would be sent someone else's way. When

79:53

he received that I think his brain

79:58

like had to like acknowledge like holy

80:00

[ __ ] this is what this is what it is.

80:04

This is what it's like. In some cases,

80:06

for it to really impact you in a big

80:07

way, maybe it needs to be like a like a

80:10

tragedy in your life, something very big

80:12

that like really moves that needle.

80:14

>> So, what was it for you?

80:15

>> For me, I mean, I would say like the

80:18

Only Fans drama moved that needle a

80:20

little bit cuz I was like, "Ooh, okay.

80:22

So, this is

80:23

>> So, are you saying it cuz your audience

80:26

was suddenly revealed to you as, wait, I

80:30

don't I don't agree with what you're

80:32

saying here?" They didn't just

80:33

automatically like uh understand that I

80:38

could have this opinion about my wife or

80:40

sex work or anything like that. This

80:42

content cop level of hate changed Ian.

80:45

He was reflecting less on the positives

80:47

of the content cop and more on the

80:48

negative feelings he gave to specific

80:50

creators. He was hating being a tool of

80:52

shame as he was now being shamed

80:54

himself. And unfortunately, like many of

80:56

his targets, he was stubborn to a fault.

80:58

>> It's good that you're this way. You're

81:00

very stubborn. You're not going to let

81:01

somebody tell you

81:03

>> like when you're doing something wrong.

81:05

You're going to like ride it out until

81:07

you come to a conclusion. Yeah. On your

81:09

own. You can't get him to do something

81:11

until he he'll just one day decide like

81:13

I'm going to do this. Um the other thing

81:16

she said is that you're a big sponge

81:18

empathetically. The people who used to

81:20

love him for that, for saying what he

81:22

believed in, no matter how it was

81:24

received, uh they now hate him for that.

81:27

Ian, just as Leafy did, could not ignore

81:30

the criticisms, even if they were only

81:31

produced to hurt him. Instead, a

81:33

resentment began to build.

81:35

>> And I think I'm realizing something.

81:37

>> I think since the Only Fans thing, you

81:40

have been

81:41

>> defiant,

81:41

>> being defiant with your audience.

81:43

>> Yeah, probably.

81:44

>> And I And I get it. It's frustrating.

81:48

Like you want to like

81:50

>> get them to stop being

81:52

>> Yeah. Well, especially when it's like an

81:53

amorphous blob of people with

81:56

>> all different opinions and you know,

81:59

you're kind of trying to figure out like

82:01

what is majority rule here.

82:03

>> Yeah.

82:03

>> Ian is stubborn, resentful, and foremost

82:06

changing into someone that was less

82:08

interested in his art and more

82:09

interested in enforcing the desired

82:11

perception. He was less and less making

82:13

videos that were impactful. And coverage

82:15

on him continued to be even less

82:17

charitable and more focused on Ana and

82:19

her history. his girlfriend

82:22

has been exposed. That's right. Some of

82:24

the best examples would be this video

82:26

that was uploaded on March 17th that is

82:28

starting to go viral now titled The

82:30

Secret World of Idubbbz's girlfriend by

82:33

Creep Show Art. And in this video, it

82:35

kind of highlights like her like

82:37

allegedly stealing art and like having

82:39

some bad takes about World War II on the

82:42

front page of his Reddit, which I

82:43

thought was fake, right? There were all

82:44

these tweets of Idubbbz's girlfriend

82:47

kind of tweeting at you and flirting

82:49

with you and thirst tweeting you and I

82:51

thought it wasn't real, but then Yeah.

82:54

And then I looked it up and I mean these

82:56

tweets are real. I mean there's a bunch

82:58

of tweets, but I think one of the most

83:00

damning one is uh one trolling me right

83:02

now, man.

83:03

>> I'm not. She tweeted at you in January

83:05

9th, 2016.

83:07

>> Jesus Christ.

83:09

>> Saying, "Why am I never in your videos?

83:11

Do I need to lower the cost of money to

83:14

get me to bend over?

83:15

>> Through the mostly negative coverage of

83:17

Ana, it was the H3 podcast that brought

83:19

generous perspectives on Ana's past.

83:22

However, Ana in June on her own channel

83:24

continue to fuel the flames.

83:25

>> Honestly, when I released Only Fans, I

83:28

didn't think anybody would care because,

83:30

well, aside from, you know, incels, but

83:34

a lot of people did care. Throughout the

83:36

rest of 2020, the IDB's channel was

83:38

losing tens of thousands of subscribers.

83:41

In July, he released his newest

83:42

documentary titled Ice Cream Man on

83:44

creator Dax Flame. The documentary set

83:46

out to get a better understanding of

83:48

what part of Dax Flame was a character

83:50

and what part of him was genuine.

83:51

Compared to Full Force, this was a far

83:54

different experience. Inexplicably, the

83:56

colors washed out. The documentary lacks

83:58

supporting characters, and a fair

83:59

portion of the documentary is building

84:01

up to a poorly conceived game show. Tax

84:03

Flame was much closer to a normal person

84:05

than Aerossoft Fatty. There was not much

84:07

chaos or a world to explore, and the

84:09

documentary likely suffered because of

84:11

it. Ice cream man stands at 7 million

84:13

views, less than onethird of the

84:15

viewership of Full Force. Then in 2021,

84:18

there were no videos on the main channel

84:19

until May. In all, Idubbbz TV only saw

84:22

five uploads for the entirety of 2021.

84:25

This could be because it was a busy year

84:27

for Ian. He had filmed a new documentary

84:29

that had failed to come out this year.

84:30

He had gotten married to Ana and he was

84:33

organizing a boxing event as explained

84:35

in his last upload of 2021.

84:37

>> If he's down, we'll make it happen. If

84:38

not, then he's a [ __ ]

84:40

>> Fast forward to present day, June 2021.

84:44

Not so not completely present, but this

84:46

year, Ricegum reaches out to my wife, my

84:49

precious wife. And you know what he

84:51

says? He says that Idubbbz is irrelevant

84:53

and that he's fallen off. Get him to box

84:56

me.

84:56

>> Ricegum had been wanting to box Ian

84:58

since 2018. It was only recently that

85:01

Idubbbz claims he became aware of this

85:02

and had been working to set up a boxing

85:04

event, even going as far as to get Lasic

85:06

eye surgery, only for Riceum to be

85:09

backing out, demanding a higher payment.

85:11

In time, this fight would completely

85:12

fall through. What remained was Ian's

85:14

passion to run a boxing event for

85:16

charity. While this would come to be, it

85:18

would face an expanding list of

85:19

problems. In the same way that Ian was a

85:21

tool to shame infamous creators,

85:23

infamous comedian Sam Hyde would be the

85:25

tool used against Ian. On January 8th,

85:28

2022, Sam Hyde released a video titled

85:31

The Truth About Idubbbz. This was an

85:33

hour 55minute documentary covering Sam's

85:35

side of a documentary Ian had filmed on

85:37

him, but had failed to release. Sam had

85:40

allegedly bothered Ian on multiple

85:41

occasions, both asking to be involved in

85:43

his boxing event and asking when the

85:45

documentary was meant to be released, as

85:47

several months had gone by since the

85:48

documentary was filmed in March of 2021.

85:51

in allegedly spending $15,000 of his own

85:53

money, mostly done to possibly sabotage

85:56

Ian's product. Sam was looking to Ian's

85:58

documentary to send attention towards

85:59

his diminishing online presence. There

86:01

are a few reasons provided early on in

86:03

the video as to why Sam believes Ian

86:05

will not release it, as most are tied to

86:07

the documentary not going Ian's way

86:09

because Sam is not like airsoft Fatty or

86:11

Dax Flame. Sam is not a socially unaware

86:13

anomaly. Sam became popular as a

86:15

comedian, but he also uses this to man

86:18

certain beliefs as he is possibly a

86:19

neo-Nazi. The moment one attempts to

86:22

prod at his genuine outlook on life, he

86:24

deflects it by answering in a

86:25

comedically dishonest way. So Sam,

86:27

understanding how Ian extracted

86:29

entertainment from airsoft fatty, set

86:30

out to make something almost entirely

86:32

ungenuine. He would not allow himself to

86:34

be made a fool in the same way former

86:36

subjects of Ian's documentaries did.

86:38

>> I think Idubbbz was kind of kind of

86:40

trying to punk me a little bit

86:42

>> and like make me look like a guy that

86:44

had like fallen off, which I have. like

86:45

I've fallen off like undoubtedly.

86:48

But [clears throat] I think he kind of

86:49

wanted to like he wanted to come out

86:51

here and see something depressing and we

86:53

like ended up making this kind of like

86:55

funny thing. Um stuff to buy. Lots of

86:58

alcohol, a bunch of Pokémon cards trying

87:00

to tell him what Pokémon is as if it's

87:02

some new [laughter] thing like crypto.

87:04

Sam is reading off the gaslighting

87:06

document, a list of ideas and set pieces

87:08

meant to create an absurdly chaotic

87:10

environment. a sort of test to see if

87:12

Ian would buy into the ridiculous world

87:14

Sam was selling.

87:15

>> The fake girlfriend, she she had she

87:17

shaved her head for this, she looked

87:19

[ __ ] totally wrecked. And she was

87:21

like going in Idubbbz's pockets, like

87:23

looking around in his pockets, trying to

87:24

feel around and [ __ ] The first few

87:27

minutes of them meeting, she walks up

87:29

behind him and puts her hands like this

87:31

in his back pockets [laughter] and he's

87:33

already uncomfortable like that.

87:34

>> She smashed it. She was so [ __ ]

87:36

>> No [ __ ] way. Best cast member. Just

87:39

this just this girl actress like an

87:41

actress type chick.

87:43

>> On day one of the shoot, Sam appeared to

87:45

have overplayed his hand as Ian was

87:47

immediately suspicious.

87:50

[laughter]

87:50

>> You guys aren't doing this every day

87:51

though. It doesn't look like this all

87:53

the time. This is

87:55

>> This is a show, right?

87:57

>> What do you mean? Like the mess.

87:59

>> Well, no. Just all the people all frame.

88:01

Like what?

88:02

>> It took only 10 seconds to convince.

88:05

>> Joy's my audio guy. Julie's my editor.

88:07

Evan's just 3D models. Chris does

88:09

writing stuff.

88:11

>> He's not

88:11

>> with Ian now in Sam's world. He guides

88:14

him through the disorganized office,

88:15

takes him on a ride on a vehicle he

88:17

rented and spars with him.

88:18

>> This is the other kind of [ __ ] up

88:19

thing is that he's doing like YouTube

88:21

boxing now and I'm I started this I

88:23

planted this seed in his head.

88:29

On day three, there is an interview, the

88:31

one-on-one that would be interpreted by

88:33

viewers in far different ways. Many

88:35

pinned the change in tone happening when

88:36

Idubbbz asked about a DMCA Sam had

88:39

issued years ago against Ian's channel.

88:41

>> What do you think?

88:41

>> Did I snub you or slight you or

88:43

something?

88:43

>> What?

88:44

>> What did I do?

88:47

>> You your memory is that bad?

88:49

>> Yes.

88:51

>> You don't remember?

88:51

>> I do not remember.

88:52

>> Okay.

88:54

Do you remember

88:55

>> what was it?

88:56

>> Do you remember making a Kickstarter uh

88:59

TV?

89:00

>> Yes.

89:01

>> Of uh Well, no, it wasn't Kickstarter

89:03

TV. You remember making a pony game?

89:06

>> Yes.

89:06

>> Okay. There were some creators at the

89:09

time who made videos about this fake

89:12

pony project.

89:14

>> Yeah.

89:15

>> Yeah.

89:16

>> Were you one of them?

89:16

>> I was one of them.

89:17

>> What did I do?

89:19

>> Do you have any guesses?

89:20

>> Did I say [ __ ] you or something?

89:22

>> Uh, no. You you copyright claim the

89:24

video.

89:25

>> Really?

89:26

>> Yes. And then you sent me an email.

89:29

>> That might not have been me. Oh, okay. I

89:31

sent you an email. kind of seems like

89:33

something that you would do. The email

89:35

was,

89:37

I will release the copyright claim on

89:39

your video if you can send me a video of

89:42

yourself squatting 200 lb below

89:47

parallel.

89:47

>> Why didn't you do that?

89:50

You'd be so much stronger now if you'd

89:52

done that.

89:52

>> Yeah.

89:53

>> Damn.

89:54

>> Did I create an enemy with that?

89:56

>> Really? How are you going to How are you

89:58

going to punk me? I'm going to make you

90:00

look like a like an [ __ ]

90:02

>> Really?

90:02

>> Which isn't hard to do.

90:04

>> Is that Is that really the case?

90:05

>> No.

90:06

>> Okay.

90:06

>> At time stamp 1 hour 12 minutes and 38

90:09

seconds, there is text on screen stating

90:11

that the interview ended 6 minutes

90:13

prior. This could be Sam signaling to

90:14

his audience that after Ian brought up

90:16

the DMCA and questions Sam about his

90:18

politics that he began acting expectedly

90:20

disingenuous. The rest of the video is

90:22

more of Sam guiding Ian through his

90:24

world. Ian, not pressured into releasing

90:26

his side of the events, released his

90:28

documentary on Sam the following month

90:30

titled Getting Away with It. Ian's

90:32

version included moments not included in

90:34

Sam's video. He also explains Sam's

90:36

style of communication in what he calls

90:38

the circle of irony, a moment that would

90:40

be criticized as a long-winded

90:42

explanation of Sam masking his intent.

90:44

This is tied to Sam masking his beliefs.

90:47

>> Ready to [music] be destroyed? He's

90:49

donated around $5,000 to the Daily

90:52

Stormer, [music] which is a neo-Nazi

90:54

website. And uh you don't really do that

90:57

as a joke, uh from what I've understand

91:00

about the world. So, with the context

91:02

that Sam openly aligns himself with the

91:04

alt-right and white supremacy and

91:07

misogynistic stuff, uh it's hard to

91:10

write off any of the ironic stuff is

91:13

just ironic.

91:15

Peace.

91:15

>> Earlier in the documentary, Ian even

91:17

petitioned Sam to queue his audience in

91:19

as to when he is saying something

91:21

sincere.

91:21

>> For the viewers, when you say something

91:24

like that,

91:26

>> if you're serious, you say 100% serious.

91:29

>> 100% serious. [music]

91:32

>> How about this? I say, "Baby, hear me."

91:36

You [ __ ] [ __ ] So now you know. So

91:38

now you don't have to guess because

91:40

you're autistic. So, [music] you need a

91:42

picture book guide to tell you when

91:44

someone's in a mood. Here's an angry

91:46

face.

91:48

Here's happy.

91:50

>> Okay, get your guide books out so you

91:52

know when people are in different moods.

91:54

>> This is only met with an insincere

91:56

lampasting. Ian wanted to find out what

91:58

was genuine and what was not, only for

92:00

Sam to reveal very little of even his

92:02

experience with him was.

92:03

>> Have you tried to get her any help?

92:05

>> Uh, no. Seeing as she's a girl, I paid

92:07

$500 to shave her head and pretend to be

92:09

my girlfriend. No, I haven't tried to

92:11

get her any help.

92:13

[sighs]

92:13

>> Should you want me to try?

92:14

>> Wait. Okay.

92:15

>> I don't know her that well. It's

92:16

probably not my business to get her off

92:17

drugs.

92:19

>> Also, I think I told her to put her hand

92:20

in your pocket and pretend to be on

92:22

drugs.

92:24

>> Shut [laughter] up.

92:25

>> You think I Are you serious? You think I

92:27

would date a girl that has her hair

92:28

shaved like that?

92:30

>> Yes.

92:30

>> You think I'm a [ __ ] mental case?

92:32

>> Yes.

92:35

No, actually, well, I've known her for a

92:37

long time. And um

92:39

>> this this is so upsetting to me right

92:41

now.

92:41

>> You think I would? I'm a [ __ ]

92:42

millionaire. You think I have a [ __ ] ass

92:44

office like this?

92:45

>> Shut up. [laughter]

92:47

This is your office.

92:48

>> Says who? You think I would [ __ ]

92:50

spill rock stars and Legos all over my

92:52

office like a [ __ ] animal and have 20

92:54

people in a [ __ ] dentist's office?

92:57

You know this is a converted dentist's

92:59

office, right? That's why there's like

93:00

paintings of like whales on the walls

93:01

and [ __ ]

93:05

Ian,

93:07

you silly guy.

93:08

>> The documentary ends shortly after with

93:10

Ian concluding he did not get to know

93:12

Sam as he kept his wall up. Ian also

93:14

believes this does not serve to benefit

93:16

Sam in any way. This would be the last

93:18

of Ian's documentaries. Sam will later

93:20

put out the belief that this was part of

93:22

Ian's grand ploy to get back at the

93:24

people insulting Ana. I knew from the

93:26

first email what it was because I knew

93:29

that he had been getting um he'd been

93:32

getting a lot of [ __ ] from like 4chan

93:35

right-wing type guys because of his only

93:38

only fans girlfriend. And so I I was

93:41

just, you know, game theory. What's

93:42

What's this guy thinking? He's thinking

93:44

he's going to the theist

93:47

mascot. He's going to make me look bad

93:50

so that he can like get one over on the

93:52

people that have been trolling him for

93:53

having an Only Fans girlfriend. In a

93:55

separate video shortly after the release

93:57

of Ian's documentary, Sam would fail to

93:59

deny his donation to the Daily Stormer

94:01

and going as far to say the documentary

94:03

was accurate and neutral. I think that

94:04

it's [music] accurate and neutral, his

94:07

documentary. Like he could have he could

94:09

have done made it snarky. [music] He

94:12

could have been, oh well, this is the

94:13

flip side. This is what actually

94:14

happened. Like he could have done that.

94:17

But the documentary was extremely

94:18

[music] well cut. It was neutral. It

94:20

represented what happened. Following the

94:22

release of the documentary, Ian set his

94:24

sights on Creator Clash, his charity

94:26

boxing event. In this video, Ian

94:28

announces creator Dr. Mike as his

94:30

opponent and states that the two main

94:31

goals are to make it as entertaining as

94:33

possible and to raise as much money as

94:35

possible for charity. In a Twitter

94:37

space, Ian commented further on the

94:38

event, stating Ana was also meant to

94:41

box, but had gotten a concussion and was

94:43

unable to. Additionally, coming off of

94:45

his most recent documentary, Ian was

94:47

questioned about Sam Hyde's

94:48

participation. We've worked with Sam

94:50

Hyde for a period and it was tough. You

94:52

know, he was wanting to put put on his

94:54

own show and he did and it was funny,

94:57

but uh he's not a super cooperative guy.

95:00

He's very unpredictable. So involving

95:03

him in our event just isn't a good idea.

95:06

I think most people

95:07

>> massive business risk.

95:08

>> I think most people would understand

95:10

that.

95:10

>> Yeah, it's a huge business risk. I mean,

95:12

we're getting guys signing to agree to

95:14

be within like seven pounds of each

95:16

other. I totally get that. But I just I

95:19

talked to Harley, right? Cuz Harley's a

95:21

big guy and who who could realistically

95:23

face Harley? Like you need another

95:25

giant.

95:26

>> I couldn't think of a rag tag group of

95:28

people that like Sam could probably box

95:30

with in the future.

95:32

>> The reason Ian and Ana supply to not

95:34

allow Sam to box is because he is a

95:36

business risk. He is uncooperative, not

95:38

brand friendly, and half of the boxers

95:40

would allegedly leave if he boxed.

95:42

Though only Dr. Mike is used as an

95:45

example. Later, Sam himself jumps into

95:47

the conversation.

95:48

>> I mean, I'm the guy that uh Idubbbz,

95:50

Would you say that I inspired your

95:52

boxing career?

95:54

[sighs]

95:56

>> No, you did not.

95:59

>> Okay. [laughter] Okay.

96:03

What? What did

96:05

>> Bryce Gum? He DM'd me.

96:08

>> Target right now is um Hassan [ __ ]

96:10

Have you heard of that guy?

96:12

>> We have. We have. I'm not a fan. not a

96:14

fan by the way.

96:15

>> Yeah, I think he's um he's uh he's

96:18

cruising for a bruiser right now and I'm

96:20

uh I'm [clears throat] going to put it

96:21

on him.

96:22

>> Sam likely did not know it, but Ana was

96:24

a massive fan of Hassan [ __ ] the

96:26

infamous [music] streamer Sam desired to

96:28

fight.

96:28

>> I think also on top of that, cuz I met

96:30

Hassan in 2016, we did like uh name's

96:34

Austin. Real name's Austin.

96:35

>> Austin show.

96:36

>> Austin show. And we were talking

96:37

politics and it was the first time that

96:38

I had met somebody that got it. Sam

96:41

Hyde, even in the Twitter space, was

96:43

antagonistic. [music]

96:44

While Ana was speaking about her

96:45

background, Sam was deploying tactical

96:47

laughing emojis.

96:49

>> Yeah, I I have a chiology background,

96:51

nutrition background, so I just I'm able

96:54

to kind of like

96:55

>> She was guiding me the whole time.

96:57

>> Yeah.

96:57

>> In April, Idubbbz released another

96:59

promotion for Creator Clash. This time

97:01

he was marketing the event not as the

97:03

typical influencer boxing, not something

97:05

haphazardly put together with creators

97:07

who do not know what they were doing or

97:09

don't care to follow the rules. He even

97:10

stated he was going to be making a

97:12

documentary of the process. [music]

97:13

There will eventually be a documentary

97:15

about the boxing event. You guys will

97:17

see how serious everyone's taking it.

97:19

It's we're not messing around. It's a

97:21

complete lifestyle change. And this

97:23

being a more serious event, Ian could

97:25

theoretically capitalize on it to obtain

97:27

higher paying sponsors. As with any

97:29

charity run event, expectedly the money

97:31

goes into paying for the arena, the

97:33

fighters, which mostly amount to $20,000

97:35

each meant to be used for training, the

97:36

broadcast crew for the pay-per-view,

97:38

etc. While Ian focused more on

97:40

explaining the charity aspects, Anisa

97:42

was selling the event partly as a

97:44

gathering of influencers. way more

97:46

exciting VidCon or like like I want it

97:49

to be like influencers can like care

97:51

about this and fans can care about this

97:53

and like you know watch it and have like

97:55

a buildup like maybe parties before and

97:57

like stuff like that.

97:58

>> Another motivation for this event was to

98:00

find out what the next thing was for

98:02

them. An inspiration that came not from

98:04

Joji's transition, but Ethan to his H3

98:06

podcast.

98:07

>> You actually said something to us that I

98:09

feel like kind of got our brain going of

98:12

like, "Oh [ __ ] we need to start

98:13

moving." It was like you were like,

98:14

"Yeah, I spent money on this set cuz I

98:16

knew it was going to make money and like

98:17

I knew it was [clears throat] going to

98:18

make it work. I'm not worried about it."

98:20

And we talked about hiring people and

98:22

stuff with you guys and like it was a

98:23

huge like

98:24

>> aha moment for us where we were like we

98:27

need to like

98:28

>> do something like the idea of us like

98:30

doing something like this is

98:32

>> Oh yeah, this is way bigger than we even

98:33

thought.

98:34

>> This event needed to succeed not just

98:36

for the charity but also to prove that

98:38

Ana and Idubbbz were working well

98:40

together and that they could set a goal

98:42

and achieve it. hitting Hu where he

98:44

knows that it's painful.

98:46

>> Yeah. That I've ruined his life.

98:47

>> You're basically the red witch who was

98:50

[ __ ] enchanted bewitched Stannis and

98:54

>> Well, he's saying you have no agency.

98:57

>> Yeah.

98:57

>> And he's saying that you're a witch.

99:00

>> Yeah.

99:00

>> I mean, I showed up, you know, 2016 and

99:03

now here we are and Ian is doing

99:06

different stuff. Like Ian as a person

99:08

has not changed very much in like

99:11

regards to his like moral stance on a

99:13

lot of things, but like Ian and how he

99:16

feels about how he wants to put himself

99:17

on the internet has changed. But I think

99:19

that was going to happen no matter what.

99:21

>> That's what he always says.

99:23

>> That had to happen. Those videos, like

99:25

you said, now they were a hit pace and

99:27

when you look back at it, you cringe at

99:29

it.

99:30

>> Absolutely.

99:30

>> With fight night in May closing in,

99:32

there was stress building and fear of

99:33

what would happen if the event failed to

99:35

raise money. That would be the worst

99:37

case scenario is like you don't break

99:38

even, you lose money and nothing goes to

99:40

charity.

99:41

>> But everyone's calling it a charity

99:43

event. I feel like there was also Sam

99:46

Hyde. Would he sabotage the event? Would

99:48

there be retribution from not allowing

99:50

Sam to fight? Sam had already had some

99:52

direct but minor influence in the event.

99:54

He trained fighter Harley of Epic Meal

99:56

Time for a short period. Though it is

99:58

questionable how effective his training

100:00

was as Harley's main coach reviewed the

100:02

footage.

100:02

>> Were you guys boxing with boots?

100:04

[snorts]

100:06

I love it. Entertainment.

100:10

So, right now he's showing Harley how to

100:12

step into a right hand against a lefty,

100:14

but Harley ain't fighting a lefty. And

100:17

the guy standing in front of him, the

100:19

guy with the long hair there, he's not a

100:21

lefty either. So, this is completely

100:22

wrong. It's actually dangerous. Sorry,

100:25

I'm being a dick. I'm just saying what

100:27

I'm seeing.

100:28

>> Here, you know what I mean? Like a

100:30

little bit a little just a little bit

100:31

more weight on this leg than this.

100:33

>> This is [ __ ] wrong. This is

100:34

dangerous. So, right now, this dude is

100:36

showing him to put his head over his

100:38

knee. While your head is over your knee,

100:41

there's nothing good that ever happens

100:42

from that.

100:43

>> Sam was banned the night before the

100:45

event, as critter Brandon Buckingham

100:47

reported.

100:47

>> So, the night before the event, Sam was

100:49

banned from entering. He already had

100:51

flights, damn near $12,000 tickets, and

100:53

an Airbnb for not only himself, but his

100:55

entire crew, all gone to waste at the

100:57

very last second. And at no point before

100:59

the fight did Idub say, "Hey, Sam, you

101:01

can't come. I'm going to ban you." He

101:02

literally waited until the very last

101:04

moment, pulled his crew aside and told

101:06

them at a gathering of other creators

101:08

that Sam was not going to be allowed to

101:10

enter. And not only would Sam be banned,

101:11

but his entire crew would be banned as

101:13

well. It is May 14th, finite. Sam Hyde

101:16

and his crew have been banned from the

101:18

event. The event is being run by a

101:20

YouTuber who has possibly little to no

101:22

experience managing something of this

101:23

caliber. There are creators who formerly

101:25

had no boxing experience, and Ian has

101:27

set this event above other influencerrun

101:30

events. The stakes were high and the

101:32

fighters and Ian were stressed. [music]

101:33

Fight after fight, Ian's match grew

101:35

closer and nothing set the tone better

101:37

than airsoft fatty fumbling the national

101:39

anthem.

101:43

[cheering]

101:44

For so proudly we

101:54

got sorry I got nervous people. My bad.

101:57

Let's just do this. Let's [ __ ] do it,

101:59

RIGHT?

102:01

LET'S GIVE ANOTHER TRY. [cheering]

102:06

[applause]

102:07

Let's go.

102:09

>> [cheering]

102:11

>> Oh, say can you see

102:14

by the dwellers early light for so

102:19

proudly we stand

102:23

by the lights

102:32

through the

102:38

>> fatty would go on to fumble the national

102:39

anthem in additional time. But he had

102:41

succeeded in unifying and bringing the

102:43

crowd to life in a way that a performer

102:45

could only dream of. This event was not

102:47

perfect. It had its quirks. Some fights,

102:49

such as the dad versus Matt Watson

102:51

fight, were heavily one-sided. But that

102:53

was also the charm. This was an

102:55

imperfect event that aimed high. A

102:57

unified fighters and viewers. And if

102:59

anything, it proved that with enough

103:00

passion and care, even the biggest goals

103:02

can be realized. Even though Dr. Mike

103:04

had won, Ian had proved that he could

103:06

run this event. At 100,000

103:08

pay-per-views, this event will go on to

103:10

raise $1.3 million for the Alzheimer's

103:12

Association, the American Heart

103:14

Association, and the Healing Horse

103:16

Therapy Center. Even with the success of

103:17

the event, and outside of the knowledge

103:19

that it had raised that much money, Sam

103:21

Hyde continued to rally against Ian, but

103:23

mostly Anissa.

103:24

>> She's going to she's going to ruin his

103:26

life. I guarantee it. Mark my [music]

103:28

words. Mark my words. That woman is

103:30

going to ruin his life.

103:31

>> By chance, Brandon Buckingham was able

103:33

to catch Dr. Mike right after the event

103:35

where he revealed that not only did he

103:37

have no knowledge about Sam Height's

103:38

banning, he likely did not even know who

103:40

Sam Hyde was.

103:41

>> Did you hear that he banned Sam Hyde

103:43

from entering the event?

103:44

>> I did not. Why is that?

103:46

>> I don't know. I have no idea.

103:47

>> I have no idea either. Sorry.

103:48

>> He had like front row $10,000 seats and

103:50

then he said he couldn't come to the

103:51

event.

103:52

>> Oh yeah. Sorry. I don't know what to say

103:54

about that. That wasn't my call.

103:55

>> We have a sad Sam Hyde at home watching

103:57

us. You want to say shout out Sam Hyde?

103:59

>> Yeah. Sorry Sam Hyde that that happened

104:00

to you.

104:01

>> Thank you brother. Appreciate your time.

104:02

>> Appreciate it. Have a good one.

104:04

>> Even the sensible, kind, and intelligent

104:06

Dr. Mike knew that banning Sam Hyde of

104:08

all people from the event was the wrong

104:10

thing to do.

104:10

>> On May 23rd, Idubbbz released a new

104:12

video talking about the success of the

104:14

event and the potential for a creator

104:16

clash, too.

104:17

>> You know, make sure you give this video

104:18

a thumbs up because we really [ __ ]

104:21

killed it. Oh yeah, and I I think it's

104:23

also worth mentioning uh with the

104:25

success of this event, why not Creator

104:28

Clash 2? The following month, Ian would

104:31

make an appearance on Hassan Piker's

104:33

liveream where Hassan revealed he was

104:34

supposed to have a larger role in the

104:36

event. For those of you who don't know,

104:37

they're the creators of the creator

104:39

clash that we watched that I was

104:42

supposed to also attend, but I was too

104:43

much of a chicken to

104:45

>> participate to fight in it.

104:47

>> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. When I say

104:49

attend, I meant like fight, but then I

104:51

was like

104:51

>> also invited you to it to watch.

104:53

>> That's true. There is a possibility that

104:55

Sam's banning was tied to Hassan [ __ ]

104:57

He was a creator Anise looked up to and

104:59

was the target of Sam who had recently

105:01

formally challenged him.

105:03

>> You got anyone you want to call out in

105:04

the heavyweight division?

105:06

>> Oh, you know it, LAD. YOU KNOW THAT.

105:08

HASSAN PER, I'M COMING TO KILL YOU IN

105:12

LOS ANGELES AT YOUR HOUSE

105:15

>> OR IN THE RING?

105:16

>> NO, IN REAL LIFE, I'M GOING TO STALK HIM

105:19

AND BECOME OBSESSED WITH HIM AND WEAR

105:21

HIS MAKEUP. Hassan would not fight Sam,

105:24

citing the dangers in platforming him.

105:26

As for Rian, after the fight, he only

105:28

uploaded a few videos on Idubbbz TV. A

105:30

video about preers and a video about

105:32

fidget toys. The latter video performed

105:34

terribly compared to the Popper video.

105:36

Rather than taking something to the

105:37

extreme, he made something bizarre. A

105:39

Thanos molded popper toy with Orbeez

105:41

meant to represent the oil and pimples.

105:44

He also posted videos of the hot seat, a

105:46

podcast/talksh show style series

105:48

produced by Ian and had Dax Flame as a

105:50

host. But these were quickly removed due

105:52

to their poor performance.

105:54

>> And so that's when we decided like,

105:56

okay, we need to put these videos on a

105:59

separate channel that can grow its own

106:00

audience.

106:01

>> Maximum Damage. This was the channel

106:03

established to host the hot seat. It saw

106:06

its first upload starting 2023. Though

106:08

the first episodes would mostly break

106:10

100,000 views, they would eventually

106:12

fail to surpass 20,000 views on average.

106:14

Every one of Ian's projects or series

106:16

were either being abandoned or falling

106:18

in viewership. What remained was Crater

106:20

Clash 2. Ian announced the event in

106:22

January and set April 15th as a fight

106:24

date. He set Emily Arena in Tampa,

106:26

Florida as the location. This was a

106:28

large stadium with around 21,000 seats.

106:31

It was twice the capacity of the

106:32

previous arena. Ian had big plans for

106:35

this event. Yet the threat of Sam still

106:37

lingered as he continued to comment on

106:39

Ian Anisa.

106:40

>> What the hell is this?

106:45

>> Is that her last name?

106:46

>> He's taken her last name

106:52

brother.

106:56

They married in June with Idubbbz. His

106:58

last name changed from Washburn to JA.

107:02

Ian, as he did prior, would make guest

107:04

appearances on other channels to promote

107:06

the event. These are two of note. In H3

107:08

podcast episode 266, they spoke about

107:11

the financials of Creator Clash, how it

107:13

earned 1.3 million the year prior, how

107:15

soon they learned the event was

107:17

profitable, and why Anissa is still not

107:18

fighting this year.

107:19

>> So, last like year, it was like 95% of

107:22

sales were in the last like 48 hours.

107:24

>> The the pay-per-view. Yeah. I mean,

107:26

we're going to watch it, but I'm I'm not

107:28

going to pay for it yet. I played uh

107:30

men's lacrosse uh as like uh from 14 to

107:35

21 or 20. Uh I got a lot of concussions

107:38

from that. I have 11 minors and two

107:41

majors.

107:41

>> Ian's appearance or words here were not

107:43

at all protested. That much cannot be

107:45

said about his appearance on Smash

107:47

Alike.

107:47

>> Another thing that ended up um kind of

107:50

guiding the path a little bit. I did not

107:52

like the interactions that I had with

107:55

fans. There were quite a few human

107:57

beings that I interacted with

107:59

>> in person.

108:00

>> Yeah, in person that just sucked. They

108:02

just sucked because I attracted a lot of

108:05

people who suck. Some people were, as I

108:07

described earlier, were very much like

108:09

antisocial, weird basement dwellers. And

108:12

you know, the one time a month that they

108:14

come out of their cave is going to

108:16

restock on supplies at Walmart and they

108:18

run into me, their favorite YouTuber,

108:20

>> which is kind of the lifestyle you were

108:21

living at the time.

108:22

>> Yeah, exactly. I Yeah, I don't I don't

108:24

blame them.

108:24

>> And what would they say? What would they

108:25

do?

108:26

>> Things that I am certainly not going to

108:28

repeat. I'm talking bad words.

108:30

>> What Ian was describing were parasocial,

108:32

socially inep fans. Every fan base

108:34

contains sick of fans or detractors or

108:36

worse. George Miller had the same fans,

108:39

though he described them more generously

108:40

and rather than insult them made it a

108:42

point to appreciate their passion for

108:44

his work. [music]

108:45

>> When you think about the crazy faces to

108:47

face or the pranks with, as you put it,

108:50

the very elaborate fans, is there a

108:52

story that stands out? It's important to

108:55

have a fan base that is that in uh

108:58

involved [music] in you and I respect

108:59

that. Thank you. But yeah, sometimes,

109:02

you know, it gets a little gets a little

109:05

rowdy. In fact, the the only time um I

109:08

want to be approached is is when I'm

109:10

with a girl cuz it looks cool.

109:11

>> Ian's comments on his former fans was a

109:13

small scandal and threat to the event.

109:15

The larger looming threat turned out to

109:18

be no longer looming. In March, less

109:20

than a month away from the event, Sam

109:21

Hyde, as he had done the year before,

109:23

planned to partially train one of the

109:25

fighters being Froggy Fresh, formerly

109:27

known as Crispy Cream, Ian, unpleased

109:29

with Froggy's interacting with Sam,

109:31

reached out to him, and so began the

109:33

largest controversy leading up to the

109:35

event. Was there anything before that?

109:37

>> I think the riff started when um Sam

109:41

retweeted me

109:43

and I got a call from Ian, like a call

109:47

of concern. That was when the rift

109:49

started.

109:50

>> So, a Twitter retweet happened. Ian

109:52

calls you. What goes down on that call?

109:54

>> So, the first thing he said is like,

109:55

"Hey, so um I seen some stuff on Twitter

109:59

that's kind of concerning. Um, what is

110:02

your relationship with Sam Hyde?"

110:05

And I was like, it it put me it like it

110:08

put it rubbed me the wrong way like

110:09

immediately. The phone call didn't end

110:11

super cordially. It basically ended like

110:14

tense with me saying like, "Dude, this

110:15

is weird. I don't want to be

110:16

investigated." like like and then the

110:19

phone call basically ended after a few

110:20

minutes cuz I was like it felt weird

110:23

like I honestly didn't want to be like

110:24

on a phone call with them. So then I was

110:26

like if like so we texted but we texted

110:28

back and forth for the rest of the day.

110:30

These are the text messages that Froggy

110:32

is referencing. Text messages that took

110:34

place on March 12th. Ian states he is

110:36

trying to be proactive yet is indirect.

110:38

Froggy responds in not understanding the

110:40

issue implying that his motivation is

110:42

that Sam has been kind to him. Ian

110:43

responds stating that he has been hurt

110:45

by the things Sam has done. He is afraid

110:47

of Sam associating with the event and

110:49

that there are unnamed others involved

110:51

that are not comfortable with Sam.

110:52

Froggy retorts by emphasizing that this

110:55

is to a degree happening outside of the

110:57

event. And while Ian agrees that Froggy

110:59

can do whatever he wants in his private

111:00

life, he states Froggy is a

111:02

representative of the event. Ian

111:04

specifically cites Sam training Harley

111:06

last year and how that attracted a quote

111:08

unquote bad crowd, which Ian claims led

111:10

to harassment online. Froggy again

111:12

emphasizes that he exists outside of

111:14

Ian's personal concerns. Froggy is now

111:17

asking for a direct answer and what the

111:19

repercussions will be if he trains with

111:20

Sam. Ian fails to answer directly,

111:23

instead emphasizing Sam's harassment of

111:25

him and his wife. Froggy turns this back

111:27

on Ian and asks for understanding in

111:28

that Sam is Froggy's friend, so he also

111:30

has personal involvement. Froggy is

111:32

becoming displeased at the idea of Ian

111:34

forcing him to cut ties with Sam for

111:36

what is now being framed as a personal

111:38

feud. Then Froggy becomes irritated at

111:40

the lack of a direct answer. He's now

111:42

seeking a yes or no whether he'll be

111:44

kicked from the event if he trains with

111:46

Sam. The two begin to understand each

111:48

other as Froggy clarifies he only plans

111:50

to train with him and does not expect

111:51

Sam to attend the event, which appears

111:53

to be Ian's main worry. With this

111:55

understanding, Froggy again asks Ian to

111:57

be direct about what will happen if he

111:59

trains with Sam. Ian says he does not

112:01

know because he does not want to be

112:02

rash, which is where Froggy states he

112:04

plans to train. Ian responds with quote,

112:06

"I don't understand why you're talking

112:08

to me like this. I'm not trying to be a

112:09

jerk. I explained to you the awful

112:11

experience I've had with him. It

112:13

potentially leads to another year of

112:14

harassment for me and Ana. I can't take

112:16

this stuff lightly. Can you guarantee

112:18

that it's not going to end up affecting?

112:20

This isn't just someone I don't like.

112:22

This is someone who is dedicated to

112:23

disrupting an event we're running for

112:25

charity, harassing its two main

112:27

organizers and sending his fan base to

112:29

do his bidding. I just want you to know

112:30

the pain he's caused me, Ana and our

112:32

event." unquote. Ian's attempt to sway

112:34

Froggy failed. Froggy is direct with

112:36

this issue, stating that Ian has no

112:38

control of who he can and can't be

112:40

friends with and that he is going to

112:41

still train with Sam even if he means

112:43

being kicked from Queer to Clash. In the

112:44

final exchanges of this day, Ian

112:46

clarifies that he never said Froggy

112:48

could not be friends with Sam. He just

112:49

did not want content to be posted with

112:51

him before the event. Froggy responds by

112:53

stating that Ian has no control of his

112:55

life, especially when Ian has made

112:56

arguments in favor of himself rather

112:58

than the event. quote, "Sounds like your

113:00

personal problems are interfering with

113:02

your business." Froggy correctly

113:04

assessed the issue with not only this

113:05

exchange, but what predict the source of

113:08

virtually all of Creator Clashes 2's

113:09

failures. 10 days later, on the 22nd,

113:12

Froggy could be seen training with Sam

113:13

on Sam's liveream. And on the 23rd, he

113:16

further prodded with this video on

113:18

Twitter. If I don't hurt you beyond what

113:20

anybody could have imagined, I will be

113:23

so disappointed in myself

113:26

that I will

113:31

subscribe to Alisa's only fans.

113:34

>> On Twitter, Ana's mother in response to

113:36

a tweet about Ana being on the phone

113:38

alludes to replacing an imp. Froggy

113:40

quote tweeted this and another tweet. In

113:42

direct response to the IM tweet, Froggy

113:45

states, quote, "Better a imp than a

113:47

pimp. Shout out your boy, Idubbbz."

113:49

"Ana, come get your mom." Unquote. Ana's

113:52

mother would respond to Froggy claiming

113:53

he has brain damage and shrunken balls.

113:56

I got a text from one of the event

113:59

coordinators that was just like, "Hey,

114:00

did you get your email?" basically and I

114:03

opened my email and it was that

114:06

uh basically like a non-disclosure

114:08

agreement termination contract.

114:13

>> So you were then terminated because they

114:15

had decided you had disparaged the event

114:17

coordinator aka Ana.

114:19

>> Um I don't really know. It it said it

114:22

said it said I had offended event

114:24

sponsors. I I think maybe even

114:26

>> the official Creator Clash Twitter

114:28

confirmed that Froggy Fresh was being

114:30

kicked from the card and that they would

114:31

work to find a replacement for his

114:33

opponent, Chris Reagan. Creator Clash

114:35

failed to provide a reason Froggy was

114:36

kicked. On Twitter, creator Jitton

114:38

offered to pay $100,000 if Froggy was

114:41

put back on the card. There was an air

114:42

of displeasure swelling and nowhere to

114:44

vent it. On Twitter and Reddit, users

114:46

were voicing their displeasure at the

114:48

decision, believing it had something to

114:50

do with Froggy's ties to Sam Hyde. As

114:52

this was happening, Ana and Ian, as per

114:55

testimony of Ian's coach, were combing

114:57

through comments, taking note of

114:58

creators who were speaking in favor of

114:59

them.

115:00

>> And because the Froggy Fresh uh drama

115:03

went down, they spent the whole time in

115:05

my bedroom on Twitter reading all the

115:08

comments and it was the craziest thing

115:10

ever. And that's when I was like,

115:13

>> because look at them. They were reading

115:14

it and Ian was like, "Oh, Tiffany 465

115:17

says this. I think that's a great

115:19

comment." And then he says like, "What

115:20

about this comment?" It was the craziest

115:22

kind of people that stuck up for him and

115:25

didn't stick up for him. And then and

115:27

meanwhile, I'm like I'm like, "Hey, Ian,

115:29

the guy that you just met is fighting in

115:31

a world championship fight. Let's watch

115:33

this fight."

115:34

>> But he couldn't he couldn't even watch

115:35

the fight cuz they were so caught up in

115:37

like the the Twitter comments.

115:39

>> Yeah.

115:40

>> Creators like Nathan Barnett, known

115:41

online as dad, and Harley of Epic Meal

115:43

Time, were speaking in favor of Ian and

115:45

the event. Creator Clash on the 28th

115:47

doubled down, only providing this as the

115:49

reason Froggy was kicked from the event.

115:51

Quote, "There were several violations

115:53

made by Froggy Fresh during his tenure

115:55

with Creator Clash this year." As was

115:58

the case with Ian's text messages

115:59

directed at Froggy, the lack of clarity

116:01

in the statement led to more

116:03

frustration. Even those that approached

116:04

the situation generously would be met

116:06

with non-answers. Even Froggy was on

116:08

Twitter demanding clarity. Sam Hyde, now

116:11

assumed to be at the core of this

116:12

controversy, was continuing to jab at

116:14

Ian and Ana. this time by having a live

116:16

watch party of Ana's only fans, though

116:18

only him and his entourage could see it.

116:24

>> Does uh not to not to bring this up, but

116:27

does Anessa still have an Only Fans?

116:29

>> Oh, yeah.

116:30

>> Really?

116:32

>> She was on Fansley,

116:34

>> right?

116:35

>> Cuz that's that was the sponsor of

116:37

>> Oh, the Creator Clash sponsor.

116:39

>> Is that his hand?

116:40

>> I don't think so.

116:42

>> What?

116:43

>> Whoa. Wait a minute. Don't be careful

116:45

what you say.

116:46

>> Yeah.

116:46

>> Yeah. Don't say don't say anything.

116:48

>> I won't watch that.

116:50

>> Chris, get in the frame here.

116:52

>> Be nice.

116:54

>> It's good, right?

116:55

>> Yeah, it's real good.

116:56

>> What? This?

116:56

>> No. No, it's not.

116:57

>> No, it's not. Laker, get in the

116:59

background here.

117:00

>> I'm coming.

117:00

>> What's the spread look like?

117:02

>> I'm coming.

117:02

>> I'm coming. Don't worry. I'm coming.

117:04

>> What's the spread on like on a on a

117:06

>> Yeah. Go up. Go up.

117:08

>> It's a good spread.

117:10

>> Is it Is it really, Julian?

117:12

>> Yeah, it's not a bad spread. I've seen

117:13

worse.

117:15

I've seen a worse I've seen a worse

117:17

spread.

117:17

>> That's really That's not bad.

117:19

>> No, it's not bad at all, man. It's not

117:21

worth it, man. It's just not

117:24

>> The goal was to diminish Sam's

117:25

influence. But Ian, in attempting to

117:27

silence Sam, has only given him power.

117:29

This still was only the beginning, as

117:31

Ian's strategy, or lack thereof, would

117:33

backfire spectacularly. In April, Ana

117:36

would be targeted even more

117:37

aggressively. One of her videos was

117:38

re-uploaded with the title ID's wife is

117:41

cringe and where she recounts her

117:42

history of being sexually assaulted to a

117:44

remix of Last Resort by Papa Roach to

117:46

the melody of September by Earthwind and

117:48

Fire all while dancing and flipping off

117:51

the camera. This video would eventually

117:52

gain 4.1 million views. Conversation

117:55

around Critter Clash had partly devolved

117:57

into conversation around Froggy Fresh,

117:59

Sam Hyde, Ana Only Fans, the money

118:01

allocated to fighters, sex work,

118:03

speculation on why Froggy Fresh was

118:05

banned and so on. It had ballooned to

118:07

the point that even those only

118:09

interested in the event [music] would be

118:10

faced with the ramifications of the

118:12

ongoing drama as became clear on April

118:14

15th fight [music] night.

118:15

>> Sam Hyde situation uh security like I

118:17

said security was crazy at this event at

118:20

the creator only spaces all of that and

118:23

I believe that was mostly entirely

118:25

because Sam Hyde claimed that he was

118:27

going to uh show up with tickets that he

118:29

had bought with a fake name in a

118:31

disguise. I do know someone uh that was

118:34

that I met at this event who did have a

118:36

similar appearance to Sam Hyde and

118:39

apparently he was grabbed and questioned

118:42

by security because there was a sheet

118:45

with a bunch of photos of people to look

118:47

out for to not let in. I never got a

118:49

hold of this sheet but multiple people

118:50

saw it. Multiple people discussed it

118:52

with me. No one could confirm or deny

118:54

who was and who was not on the list.

118:56

Regardless of what you think of all the

118:57

Sam Hyde stuff with Idubbbz and

118:59

everything, I just think the whole thing

119:00

has gone too far at this point.

119:01

>> Paranoia of Sam Hyde attending the event

119:03

bled into every aspect of the event.

119:06

Last year, there were fans that dressed

119:07

up as Garfield. Ana had even taken note

119:09

of them and asked for more this year.

119:11

>> They were a fun character. Everyone

119:13

loves Garfield.

119:14

>> Wait, what are we talking? People show

119:16

up in Garfield.

119:17

>> Yeah, there's a lot of fanfare at the

119:18

event. People had signs. They painted

119:20

their chest. It was like a

119:22

>> What are we talking about?

119:24

At Creator Clash, someone showed up in a

119:26

Garfield furs suit in the crowd.

119:28

>> Crew outside of Creator Clash apparently

119:29

got banned from entering, right? All you

119:31

guys are not allowed in?

119:32

>> No, we're not.

119:33

>> What was the reason they gave you?

119:34

>> Uh, no face masks, but apparently it's

119:37

not in like the Amily Arena rules or

119:40

anything. So,

119:41

>> do you think it was a last minute

119:42

decision to ban face masks?

119:43

>> It was literally the head of security

119:46

told us that they they they have a

119:48

different policy than Amily Arena's

119:49

policy, but it was not posted on their

119:51

website. So, what do you think the

119:53

reason is for the last minute change in

119:55

policy regarding face masks?

119:57

>> One guy said that he suspects it could

119:59

be due to uh Sam Hyde some like it's

120:02

been going around Twitter that there was

120:03

some leaked plan for them to seek or

120:05

sneak Sam Hyde in. This is an

120:07

overreaction. I spent $800 buying all

120:10

the tickets for this event. I spent like

120:11

$450 on all the morph suits for this.

120:14

It's insane. It's like schizophrenic

120:16

levels of paranoia. The latter video

120:18

comes from creator Brandon Bunkingham,

120:20

who documented the controversy and

120:21

conducted man in the street interviews.

120:23

>> You should have let Sam come. You would

120:25

have had a lot more money for charity,

120:27

but different strokes, different folks.

120:30

>> What do you want to say to Froggy Fresh?

120:31

Froggy Fresh. Hey, man. Listen, I know

120:32

it's [ __ ] b word and a half that you

120:34

had to train for that amount of time

120:36

just to get kicked off, man. I just

120:37

singing prayers to you, man. I love your

120:39

voice. No homo.

120:40

>> You deserve better. You deserve better

120:41

than this. Brandon Buckingham and

120:43

creator Emplelemen made several signs

120:45

that they plan to distribute during the

120:46

event. As it began, there was no sign of

120:49

Sam Hyde. Shockingly, the arena was far

120:51

from packed. Even the segments the

120:53

pay-per-view stream elected to show

120:54

displayed in clear view the lack of an

120:56

attendance. If not the Sam Hyde debacle,

120:58

then it was clear that signs of low

121:00

attendance were putting further stress

121:01

on Ian and Ana. For the next five or so

121:04

hours, there would be 12 fights leading

121:05

up to the final fight between Idubbbz

121:07

and his opponent, Alex Usabi. Chris

121:09

Reagan was the fourth fight. As Froggy

121:11

Fresh was meant to be his opponent, the

121:13

best Critter Clash could do was to match

121:15

Chris with creator William Haynes, who

121:17

was 6 in taller and weighed 15 lbs more.

121:19

William won this fight.

121:21

>> Yeah, you got to give props to Chris

121:22

Reagan. I mean, he's brave.

121:24

>> Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's one way, I

121:26

guess.

121:27

>> Beyond the more passive signs of

121:28

rebellion the crowd was displaying,

121:30

fighter yodelling Haley after a victory

121:32

had this to say.

121:37

Now,

121:38

we all remember the fight at Creator

121:40

Clash one. It was probably the best

121:43

fight of the night. And in that fight,

121:44

you showed true grit. With Crispy Cream

121:47

being Froggy Fresh former alias, this

121:49

appeared to be a message of defiance.

121:50

What's more, one of the signs had made

121:52

it down to the floor seats. This is when

121:54

Critter Rusty Cage took a picture of it

121:56

and tweeted it out.

121:57

>> I see like some shenanigans going down.

121:59

I take a photo of it. It's just people

122:01

holding up a sign. It said Froggy did

122:04

nothing wrong. like

122:05

>> seemingly innocuous.

122:06

>> Yeah. Right. Right. Right. I go to this

122:08

like after event and Ana comes up to me.

122:11

She comes up and says, "That tweet was

122:13

really not cool." And I just apologize.

122:15

I felt kind of like a [ __ ] I was like,

122:17

"Why the [ __ ] did I apologize? What am I

122:19

apologizing for? I don't even know this

122:21

person." That's really not cool.

122:23

Honestly, Ana, it was very cool.

122:25

>> What do you think about Ana confronting

122:27

Rusty Cage for taking a photo of a

122:29

Froggy Fresh did nothing wrong sign?

122:31

>> Yeah, that seems like a major violation.

122:33

That seems like something that's really

122:34

uncool. A lot of people are getting hurt

122:36

because of that. A lot of people getting

122:38

hurt because of that. It's very uncool.

122:40

So, if I took a picture if I took a

122:41

picture of a sign that said Froggy Fresh

122:43

does nothing did nothing wrong, that's

122:45

kind of a an uncool move. That's not

122:47

cool. But if I'm your friend and uh I

122:51

give you a few days notice to go fight a

122:54

black guy that's uh way bigger than you,

122:56

that's actually a cool move.

122:58

>> It now came down to the main event, Ian

123:00

versus Alex Oabi. Though Ian had pushed

123:02

for this fight, even Ian's coach knew

123:04

his passion nor training rubbed to par

123:06

as he had shared his concerns prior to

123:08

the matchup.

123:09

>> Alexi had a ring in his backyard. He

123:11

moved a pro boxer and with him he'd

123:13

loved training. Ian doesn't and he's

123:15

like, "This is who I'm going to fight."

123:17

I'm just like, "This is ridiculous.

123:19

You're putting us in a hole to This is

123:21

the opponent you've chosen for the

123:22

second fight and yet you put us we're

123:24

we're so far behind on what we need to

123:27

do to show up to this event." But I

123:29

still had him in good enough shape to

123:30

where he was he outgassed him. He won

123:32

the third round. One judge had it a

123:34

draw, which means that he's won two of

123:36

the rounds on one judge's scorecards.

123:38

Right.

123:38

>> Ian would lose this fight.

123:40

>> What would you like to say to all your

123:42

fans and supporters that were rooting

123:44

for you here today?

123:47

[cheering]

123:51

>> I don't know. Um

123:54

a [ __ ] hard. I really appreciate

123:56

everyone. Uh, you know, I'm not I know

123:59

I'm not everyone's cup of tea, but I I

124:03

really do uh appreciate the support and

124:06

um uh you know, thank you for coming.

124:10

>> This loss was not the worst news of the

124:12

night. Ian and Nissa receiving the

124:13

initial pay-per-view numbers noticed

124:15

that they were in deep trouble.

124:16

>> But we're sitting there waiting for the

124:17

doctor to come in to stitch Ian's eye up

124:20

and we're trying to digest the idea that

124:21

we like only sold 50k pay-per-views. And

124:25

we looked at each other and we were

124:26

like, "Do you want to just like [ __ ]

124:29

>> kill ourselves?

124:30

>> Kill ourselves." Like literally like

124:31

there was like that actual like thought.

124:33

>> It was just like what the [ __ ] do we do?

124:35

>> Yeah. What are we supposed to do? This

124:37

is not

124:38

>> I have never felt so horrendous.

124:42

>> Yeah.

124:42

>> Like we're having this conversation

124:44

while we're waiting for the [ __ ]

124:45

doctor to come in and stitch your eye

124:46

up.

124:47

>> Yeah. It was one of those moments where

124:48

you're just kind of like

124:50

>> we did everything we could right and we

124:53

cared. Ian and Ana did much wrong. They

124:56

had the goal to remove Sam's influence

124:58

from the event. What actually happened

124:59

was a fighter was removed. His opponent

125:01

had a severe mismatch fight. There was

125:03

insubordination coming from at least one

125:05

of the fighters and certainly the crowd.

125:07

And lastly, this graph in Ian setting up

125:09

Sam Hyde as his antagonist. Sam Hyde

125:12

would have his best performing month

125:13

viewership-wise ever in April of 2023,

125:16

the month of Creator Clash. As a

125:18

contrast, this is Myth SocialBlade, a

125:20

fighter in the event. Not only did he

125:22

lose subscribers this month, he also

125:24

lost viewership likely to him removing

125:26

videos. Viewers cared about the story of

125:28

Creator Clash, the drama between Ian and

125:30

Sam, and Ian had shown himself to be

125:32

incapable of victory against Sam Hyde

125:34

against Alex Osabi and against a

125:36

pragmatic approach. Though there were

125:38

fans that were displeased with Ian for

125:40

changing content styles, as there were

125:41

fans displeased when Filthy Frank became

125:44

Joji, arguably more fans were displeased

125:46

at the fact that Ian was becoming

125:48

incapable. This leads to the financials

125:50

of Creator Clash. Ian and Ana wanted an

125:52

event following the fight to allow

125:54

fighters to celebrate and to decompress.

125:56

So, they threw a gala. They also want

125:58

fighters and VIP creators to have a safe

126:00

and comfortable stay. So, they rented

126:02

out an entire hotel.

126:03

>> Talking about that long before about how

126:05

they had to fly in all these people. Uh

126:07

they were first of all, they rented the

126:09

hotel for over 300 creators uh and flew

126:12

a lot of them in. When the first year it

126:14

was much it was much more scaled back.

126:16

We just had a couple floors um of like

126:19

some place like a nice sweet place, but

126:21

it wasn't extravagant at all. And then

126:23

the second year they did that full hotel

126:25

for 300 creators. They flew a lot of

126:27

people in. I got there and I saw the

126:30

hotel and I was like, "Oh." And then I

126:32

saw security and I was like, "Ah." And

126:35

then I saw YouTubers that aren't even

126:37

boxing. They have rooms and I was like,

126:38

"Okay." And then I see that there's a a

126:42

ceremoniously burning of the money the

126:44

next day and I was like interesting

126:46

everything. Okay. I I mean I I wish them

126:50

I this is I I put up a charity that I

126:52

cared a lot for. So I was like okay this

126:55

is pretty important. Um and I was

126:57

questioning every single decision along

126:59

the way.

127:00

>> Uh did he kind of walk people through at

127:02

one of these gala events going like hey

127:04

I'm pulling you aside. Uh unfortunately

127:06

the event didn't make any money

127:08

>> at the gala. No, we we had no idea. It

127:10

was fresh. It was brand new. It was like

127:13

they were the the the accounting, I'm

127:15

assuming, wasn't done at that point. We

127:17

found out like months later

127:18

>> and we had to sit there while we knew

127:20

that we had lost money.

127:21

>> Mhm.

127:22

>> And go through all of that.

127:23

>> Yeah. That was really painful just

127:24

hearing like having so many people come

127:26

up sort of asking, inquiring like so

127:29

like uh how' the event due like you know

127:32

what are the numbers?

127:33

>> Yep. And the response that I had to give

127:35

everyone was basically like, "Oh, we're

127:37

still still counting." You know, it

127:39

takes a little while for them to come

127:40

in. Don't have any official numbers yet.

127:42

>> Y

127:43

>> um and that was true to an extent. You

127:46

know, I could, you know, sort of hang on

127:48

to some hope that like, oh yeah, like it

127:51

continues to go on sale for the next 24,

127:54

48 hours, something like that.

127:55

>> Yeah.

127:55

>> A hotel to host 300 creators, flights

127:58

for those uninvolved, a gala. All of the

128:00

money meant to go to the needy was

128:02

wasted to celebrate the wealthy. If only

128:04

it ended there.

128:05

>> Cassan and all those other people was

128:08

going to translate to more uh buys,

128:10

pay-per-view buys.

128:11

>> And they didn't even promote. They

128:12

didn't even care.

128:13

>> No, it made no sense to me. I'm like,

128:16

people don't watch fights cuz Denzel

128:18

Washington's in the crowd. They're not

128:20

like Denzel Washington's there. I need

128:22

to watch the fight.

128:23

>> It makes no sense.

128:24

>> Hassan [ __ ] and his entourage did fly

128:26

out to Florida for the event.

128:28

>> [music]

128:28

>> Ana has stated she is a massive fan of

128:30

him and his group and Sam Hyde hates

128:32

them all. This could be a possibility if

128:34

not the reason Ian had pushed back so

128:36

aggressively against Sam this year. As

128:39

Ian would state that Froggy and to that

128:40

extent Sam Hyde were not matching the

128:42

quote unquote vibe of the event. A lot

128:45

of decisions before the first event they

128:47

like spoke with us about cuz I know

128:49

boxing. I've been boxing. I've been

128:50

around boxing my entire life. So I'm

128:52

like oh I could help them with all these

128:53

other things. And then for the second

128:55

event, I felt like they wanted to make

128:56

it much more like their own version of a

128:59

TwitchCon, their own version of a

129:01

VidCon.

129:01

>> That's what he said. Yeah.

129:02

>> He was really mad the first year that

129:04

like uh cuz she would always talk about

129:06

a certain group of people. It was like

129:08

somebody named Pokémon and all these

129:10

other people and she would always talk

129:11

about how she wants like them to be

129:14

there and she wants to be a part of

129:15

their group.

129:16

>> Many of these details would take years

129:18

to come out. For now, Ian was recovering

129:20

from the event and made an appearance on

129:22

the H3 podcast. [music]

129:23

It was here that they revealed that the

129:25

event had a massive pirating issue,

129:27

alleging that several Discord servers

129:29

had up to 30,000 people watching the

129:31

event. [music]

129:32

They also spoke about someone reaching

129:33

out to purchase Creator Clash and that

129:35

Ian and Nissa had not made any money in

129:37

the last 2 years. They did not take a

129:39

cut for the first two Creator Clashes,

129:41

but were encouraged to possibly take a

129:43

cut if a third were to happen. Ian also

129:45

wants something similar to what H3 has.

129:48

>> I uh I don't know. It's it's inspiring

129:51

to, you know, to see you and and the

129:54

whole crew uh, you know, build such a a

129:57

nice community. I I I

130:00

look forward to doing that for myself in

130:02

the future.

130:03

>> At the end of the episode, Ian teases

130:05

[music] Addie Content Cop.

130:07

>> Uh, on my main channel, I'm going to be

130:09

addressing controversies

130:12

and I'm going to be putting out

130:16

>> a

130:16

>> I'm going to put be putting out a

130:18

content cop.

130:19

>> Yes. Oh. Let's [ __ ] go, baby.

130:22

>> Looking forward to uh Oh, yeah. People

130:26

are saying it's the fabled content

130:27

[music] comp on H3.

130:30

>> Can I say something?

130:31

>> That's when I my fans fell before your

130:33

fans did.

130:34

>> My very first video I made on YouTube on

130:37

the Stariller [music] channel was why

130:39

Ethan Why Ian would never content cop

130:41

you.

130:42

>> So, and I was wearing Idubbbz's merch

130:44

with a Teddy Fresh hat.

130:46

>> And so, it's wild to be sitting here

130:47

with both of you.

130:48

>> Now, here you are.

130:49

>> Yep.

130:50

Ian did not release a content cop rather

130:52

a video titled addressing the froggy

130:54

fresh drama. In the intro of the video,

130:57

Ian lies by stating the event was a

130:59

success.

131:00

>> Hello everyone. Welcome back to another

131:02

video. Brief update. I [music] am healed

131:05

from Creator Clash 2. Uh it was a

131:07

success. Alex Wasabi beat me up.

131:10

>> Ian further in states he did not address

131:12

the Froggy Fresh drama sooner because he

131:14

did not want to jeopardize the success

131:16

of the [music] event. Uh, and that all

131:17

has to do with Froggy Fresh. The reason

131:20

I didn't address any of this sooner is

131:22

because I was terrified of jeopardizing

131:25

the success of the event because there

131:27

are a lot more people involved in this

131:29

than just Ana and I. Uh, and I didn't

131:31

want to [ __ ] it up for them. [music]

131:32

These are people that I really care

131:34

about. And I felt like it would be very

131:36

selfish if I was like, I understand

131:39

public perception right now, guys. I'm

131:41

just gonna make a quick 10-minute video

131:43

and I'll squash all the rumors. I'll

131:45

squash all the beef. I have no idea what

131:48

public perception for this video is

131:50

going to be. That's why I'm doing it

131:51

now. Right. As with Ian's decisions

131:53

involving Froggy Fresh, this video too

131:56

was poorly received. The top comment

131:58

reads, quote, "At times like this, I'm

132:00

so [ __ ] glad Filthy Frank broke away

132:02

and became a successful musician."

132:04

George Miller said goodbye to his past

132:06

in an artistic music video and through a

132:08

separate video in the theme of the

132:09

series. He gave his audience the chance

132:11

to engage with a goodbye, but also art

132:14

and entertainment as a vehicle for it.

132:16

Ian, in this video about removing a

132:18

beloved fighter from the charity event,

132:19

decides this is the appropriate time to

132:21

talk about his intent and former videos.

132:24

I need to bring you guys up to speed on

132:25

where I'm at as a person and as a

132:28

content creator. My philosophy for a

132:30

while was, well, people will figure it

132:32

out through the videos I make. But the

132:34

problem is the videos I make, I mean, I

132:36

sort of avoid speaking [music] from the

132:38

heart. I'm just going to focus on a

132:40

thing, on a piece of content. I I think

132:43

I have bad associations with sharing my

132:45

life uh on the internet. I'm like, no,

132:47

that that shouldn't be my thing. Like,

132:50

leave that up to the vloggers. But I

132:52

think it's important to share where I'm

132:54

at. So,

132:55

>> [music]

132:55

>> uh none of what I'm talking about in

132:57

this Froggy Fresh video feels like I'm

132:59

being hypocritical or uh [music] you

133:02

know, I'm misleading you in any way. I

133:05

think a lot of the content I've made has

133:08

been irresponsible and misguided and I

133:11

think I've hurt a [music] lot of people

133:13

with the content I've made. Uh, you

133:15

know, despite many people being

133:16

entertained by it, you know, I'm not

133:18

trying to take that away from you and I

133:20

think I've done a lot of bad and uh, you

133:22

know, at the bare minimum, I've just put

133:24

a lot of negativity out there in [music]

133:25

the world and I'm working on not doing

133:29

that. But in this video, that's probably

133:32

about all I can say on on any of [music]

133:34

it. I don't want to detract from what

133:37

the focus is. And the focus is kicking

133:40

Froggy fresh from the Creator Clash

133:42

card.

133:42

>> Ian then reveals the main reason Froggy

133:44

was removed was for collaborating with

133:46

Sam Hyde.

133:47

>> The one indication I gave him was Sam

133:49

Hyde, and I I wasn't unclear about that.

133:52

Anyone who's mentioning the fact that

133:53

Harley trained with Sam Hyde for the

133:55

year previous, [music]

133:56

uh, that was before Sam was saying this

134:00

about my wife.

134:01

>> Ian then plays several clips of Sam

134:03

crudely insulting Ana.

134:04

>> So yeah, now that this guy is on the

134:06

daily insulting my wife, I think it's

134:08

pretty fair to, you know, not [music]

134:10

want to associate with him in any way.

134:13

>> Ian earlier in the video said he did not

134:15

make a statement during creator clash

134:17

because he did not want to poorly affect

134:19

the event that involved others. Yet he

134:21

also cites his personal feud with Sam

134:23

Hyde as the core motivation for kicking

134:25

Froggy from the event. Not at all how it

134:27

could affect the finances and to that

134:29

extent the charities. Despite Ian

134:31

distancing himself from his past, citing

134:33

being a damaging person, he was showing

134:35

himself to be more selfish than he had

134:37

ever been. The rest of Ian's video

134:39

cycles through Froggy's crude comments

134:41

about the event and its culture. Froggy

134:43

calling Sam Hyde the most talented

134:45

comedian in live and Ian's reason for

134:47

kicking Froggy, which is still centered

134:49

around his personal feud. At the end of

134:51

the video, Ian makes this request of

134:53

Sam. This is my request. I would like

134:55

you to not harass me or my wife or uh

134:59

anyone that we're friends with. Also,

135:01

harassment encompasses all the little

135:03

loopholes. All right? You can't just

135:05

then like refer to me as a goblin

135:07

[music] and be like, "I didn't say his

135:09

name. I wasn't talking about him. I was

135:11

talking about a goblin. Uh, that's not

135:15

that's not acceptable.

135:16

>> 15 days later, Ian would expand on

135:18

changing as person in a video titled I

135:20

miss the old Idubbbz.

135:22

>> I've realized that I need to be crystal

135:25

clear about what I believe, so there's

135:27

no room for ambiguity. I am responsible

135:31

[music]

135:31

for creating a lot of hurtful and

135:34

damaging content on this channel. And

135:36

I've also created a culture of

135:40

uh apathy and I don't know a lot of like

135:44

cruelty as [music] well. I was morally

135:46

grandstanding and acting as if I am any

135:49

better than any of these people that I

135:50

was making content cop videos on.

135:52

[music] And I'm not. I'm a human. I'm a

135:56

real human who makes mistakes. And

135:58

[music] you know, I make a different set

136:00

of mistakes than the people I was making

136:02

videos on. But it doesn't matter. I

136:04

don't think anyone deserves that level

136:06

of cruelty or hate.

136:08

>> Ian appears to misremember his content

136:10

cops. While there were borderline

136:12

pointless ones, like the one on How to

136:14

Bring It Up, the effective ones existed

136:16

to penetrate a barrier the most

136:17

egotistical creators had set up. [music]

136:19

The ones that survived their shaming had

136:21

to embrace the criticism and separate it

136:23

from hateful viewers that only desired

136:25

their failure. Tana was an example of

136:28

success. Leafy was an example of

136:30

failure. But Ian had not reflected on

136:32

the outcome for some time. He then

136:34

presses on about wanting to succeed

136:36

based [music] on his personality and his

136:38

lack of confidence around it. Ian also

136:40

gives a blanket apology and a direct

136:43

apology to Tanamojo. I'm not confident

136:45

in my ability to entertain. And I think

136:48

if I had to rely on my personality

136:52

uh to [music] entertain people that I I

136:55

wouldn't I wouldn't have any amount of

136:57

success. I was being very bigoted in a

136:59

lot of my videos and I justified it

137:02

because, you know, I didn't think it was

137:04

too serious and I thought that people

137:06

were going to see that I had good

137:08

intentions, you know, but that's so

137:12

silly. You know, casual racism is still

137:14

racism. [music] Casual bigotry is still

137:17

bigotry. I'm sorry to everyone that I

137:19

made content cop videos on. I [music] I

137:22

still don't like the majority of you,

137:24

and that's fine. But I can recognize

137:26

that you did not deserve the hate

137:27

[music] and harassment that I sent your

137:29

way. Outside of his videos, Ian often

137:32

did tweet racial slurs or threats of

137:34

assault, if only for the sake of being

137:36

offensive. He is delisting all of his

137:38

content cops, only allowing them to be

137:40

accessed through user reuploads or from

137:42

this Google doc he set up. Ian also

137:44

states that any revenue from this

137:46

apology video will be donated. Halfway

137:48

through the video, Ian gets to the other

137:50

part that changed him, the part that

137:52

exists outside of Ana receiving

137:54

harassment.

137:55

>> Now, I want to talk about [music] events

137:57

and situations that have happened over

138:00

the past 5 years of my life that have

138:02

[music] led me to the place I'm at now.

138:05

One year I was at a convention and a

138:07

bunch of fans were, you know, wanting

138:09

pictures and this particular fan came up

138:12

to me and said, "I know you probably

138:14

don't like transgender people, but can

138:16

I, you know, get a picture?" That

138:18

smacked me in the face. I was like, "Oh,

138:21

holy [ __ ] Why would you think that?"

138:24

But, I mean, it was fairly obvious. I

138:26

was being cruel, hateful, bigoted, and

138:30

uh being very uncaring about people's

138:32

feelings. That is a very fair assessment

138:35

to make.

138:36

>> Ian later in the video addresses this

138:38

controversial clip from the Anthony

138:39

Padilla podcast

138:41

>> and it's me calling my fans antisocial

138:44

and basement dwellers and I was like I

138:46

didn't like you know interacting with my

138:48

fans. I just want to be clear like I

138:50

that was my realization. It was my

138:53

realization upon you know meeting more

138:55

and more fans that I was like oh [ __ ]

138:58

you guys are are struggling. It was easy

139:02

for me to identify them struggling when

139:04

they were outside of my body. But the

139:06

antisocial basement dwelling incel that

139:08

was inside here.

139:11

Uh I I couldn't acknowledge that. I

139:12

couldn't recognize that. So I needed the

139:15

mirror to be held up to me. Uh I think

139:17

only in these past couple of years have

139:19

I gained the ability empathy. And it I'm

139:23

very ashamed to admit that. It sounds it

139:26

sounds really pathetic to say at the age

139:29

of 32 I've acquired empathy, but I have

139:33

and I've realized it because I just like

139:36

can't help myself but uh like feel for

139:41

other people's pain and suffering. Now

139:44

>> Ian then makes a massive mistake. And uh

139:47

I just want you guys to know that uh you

139:49

can unlock ability empathy if you you

139:53

know experience more life. It might take

139:55

you getting hurt a little bit but uh

139:58

it's worth it. It is so worth it. In his

140:01

arrogance he professes that his audience

140:04

can too learn empathy as if his audience

140:06

at large was the void of it. There is a

140:08

glaring issue here that Ian has failed

140:10

to consider. He changed not based on the

140:12

common man but because of the

140:14

parasocial. the fans that lack the

140:17

ability to interpret or have innate

140:19

curiosity. He changed because socially

140:21

inept antisocial fans came up to him and

140:24

acted in a inarguably antisocial fashion

140:26

by spouting racial slurs in a public

140:28

setting. He also changed because a

140:30

possibly parasocial fan as there are

140:32

many at conventions believed Ian to be

140:34

an innately hateful person. Even Ana in

140:37

the past understood that these forms of

140:39

fans or detractors should not be

140:41

considered. Oh my god. Me and Ian had

140:44

the most uncomfortable [ __ ]

140:45

interaction at like um we were on White.

140:48

We were in one of the shops and these

140:50

two girls come up to us and like they're

140:52

excited that Ian was there which is like

140:53

great and cool and whatever but like one

140:55

of them was like just like looked at

140:57

Ian. She's like I [ __ ] hate that [ __ ]

140:59

Tana and Ian's like holy [ __ ] Like cuz

141:02

it's like what the [ __ ] It was like we

141:04

didn't know how to respond. Like Ian's

141:05

like, "Oh yeah, cuz like what it's like,

141:09

yeah, I made a video on it because it,

141:11

you know, I I didn't like her being

141:12

hypocritical, but like he doesn't hate

141:14

Tana. He [music] doesn't hope that Tana

141:16

dies in a hole."

141:17

>> What do you want? Okay, so yeah,

141:18

exactly. It's like I just think I just

141:21

think these people are dumb.

141:22

>> Yeah. Like far

141:24

>> Yeah.

141:25

>> Despite Ian being heartfelt, viewers

141:27

interpreted this video and his overall

141:28

changed in different ways. [music] Some

141:30

simply boiled the hate to Ian no longer

141:32

being edgy or bigoted. Others gave a

141:35

breakdown of his history and how Ian is

141:36

not disliked for a single event, but for

141:38

a compounding list of transgressions.

141:40

[music] What remained true was Ian was

141:42

more hated than he had ever been, as

141:44

would continue to be the case. Some of

141:47

the top comments on Ian's video point to

141:49

his decline being based on his inability

141:51

to be funny rather than offensive.

141:53

Quote, "You weren't funny because you

141:54

were offensive. You are just a funny

141:56

dude. You can be the self-aware you and

141:59

still be funny. I don't miss the

142:01

cruelty. I just miss the effortless

142:03

humor. I miss when you can make opening

142:05

a box entertaining for 9 minutes

142:06

straight. The [music] content doesn't

142:08

need to be apathetic and cruel. What I

142:10

miss most is the ridiculous and shocking

142:12

nature of them." The following day, H3

142:16

streamed and spoke to Yen moving on to

142:18

whatever his new form is. This could be

142:20

the moment Ian makes peace with his past

142:22

to focus on his future as Ethan claims

142:24

he went through something similar. He

142:26

he's unlisted all the content cops.

142:29

I think he was a little hard on himself

142:31

in that, but I totally [music] respect

142:35

just wanting to own it all and move on.

142:37

>> Yes.

142:38

>> Like he's just full out, you know, palms

142:41

open, just let I'm not hedging my bets.

142:44

I'm not making any excuses. It's just

142:46

all down.

142:47

>> I Yeah, I watched it yesterday, too. And

142:50

I personally feel like this is what I've

142:52

wanted to see from him for so long. When

142:54

you come through on the other end,

142:57

you know who you are [music] and your

142:59

fans know who you are. And now I've

143:01

never been more honest.

143:03

>> Mhm.

143:04

>> I've never been more [music] authentic.

143:06

And the fans that watch, they like me

143:09

for who I am,

143:10

>> right?

143:11

>> Who I really am. And I can say what the

143:13

[ __ ] I mean always. And I don't have to

143:17

do what like Charlie and Boogie's

143:18

[music] doing where I I don't have to

143:20

like say it all.

143:21

>> Cater to some people. So, you got to

143:23

worry about how you phrase yourself.

143:24

>> 100%. Exactly.

143:26

>> Charlie also spoke about Ian's video,

143:28

[music] speaking more to Ian's strategy

143:30

of change and that Ian was accepting the

143:32

worst of his perceived crimes as if he

143:34

was always meaning to be racist. I'm

143:36

sorry to immediately come in here with

143:38

the Phoenix Wright objection, but I

143:40

completely disagree with the sentiment

143:41

that it's weak or passive to change your

143:45

content and expect people to see that as

143:48

a reflection of yourself. That's pretty

143:51

much the optimal way of handling any

143:54

kind of situation when which you're not

143:56

comfortable with either your audience or

143:57

the content you've been making. By

143:59

changing the content over time, you're

144:02

changing the audience over time as well,

144:03

obviously, right? It's still, I think, a

144:05

little ridiculous to make it seem like

144:07

it was this big of a deal that it

144:09

warranted a whole apology video in which

144:11

he makes it seem like he'll never truly

144:14

find forgiveness and he'll never forgive

144:15

himself for it for saying the slurs in

144:18

the videos and making the content. and

144:19

he did because again like he's talking

144:22

about it like he's a [ __ ] reformed

144:23

racist like he was actually a racist and

144:25

now he's not when I don't think that was

144:27

the case. Charlie's video was poorly

144:29

received. Quote being quote unquote

144:31

ironically racist can and will attract

144:34

genuine racists. Making a 21-minute

144:36

video about how his 10-minute apology

144:38

was too much and unnecessary is peak

144:40

irony. [music] This is so tonedeaf and I

144:43

hate that you can't see the damage he's

144:44

done and accept that he was wrong.

144:47

On Charlie's Reddit, users echoed these

144:49

sentiments. Quote, "I was like 15 when

144:52

Content Cop was popping, and it had a

144:53

direct effect on me and my friend group.

144:55

It made us feel like using certain slurs

144:58

was a lot more okay than it was."

145:01

These comments emphasized that while

145:03

Idubbbz may not have been looked upon as

145:04

a racist, his content [music] did

145:06

encourage them to engage in what could

145:08

be considered antisocial behavior. As

145:10

for the content cops and Ian's apology,

145:12

this is what Tana had to say. I'm not

145:15

talking about anything in regards of the

145:18

things he said, but I'm I'm [music] more

145:20

so just talking about like his actions

145:22

to me, like, you know, him showing up to

145:24

my show, him [music] kind of putting me

145:27

on blast, him inevitably making me kind

145:30

of cancelled and [music]

145:32

>> lose subscribers and have to apologize

145:35

and all that type of stuff. I I kind of

145:37

think I like deserved that. [music] And

145:39

maybe that's like dark like to say, but

145:42

like I don't feel like I'm owed an

145:44

apology. And maybe that's because I've

145:46

accepted it so much that like people

145:49

always ask me if you could go back in

145:50

time and like make that never happen

145:52

like would you? And I always say no. I

145:54

think I would be a completely different

145:55

person if I [music] didn't have that. I

145:57

think it like I was on track to just be

146:00

so on my high horse and like egotistical

146:03

and [music] like nothing could go wrong

146:05

that something going wrong gave me such

146:07

a dose of reality that like this might

146:10

not last forever. Like

146:11

>> yeah,

146:12

>> you need to be held accountable for

146:13

actions.

146:14

>> There was conversation about Ian's video

146:16

for quite some time. In the meantime,

146:18

Ian opted to stream but would not find

146:20

much success. Keemstar in [music] a

146:22

tweet compared Ian's viewership to his

146:24

former rival Ricegum who outnumbered his

146:26

viewership by nearly 20 times. And

146:28

though Ian had made amends with the

146:30

past, it was now the present that was

146:31

haunting him as demonstrated by this

146:34

video uploaded in July. Hello everyone.

146:36

I have some bad news to share with you.

146:39

Uh I [music]

146:41

really don't want to share it. I I feel

146:44

terrible. Uh this year has been a rough

146:47

one. [music] But uh this is the path

146:49

that I chose. So, I think it's best to

146:52

be [music] transparent for Creator Clash

146:55

2. You know, despite it being a fun

146:57

event [music] and despite good fights

147:00

and a lot of creators sacrificing a lot

147:02

of time, uh, money, and energy, uh, we

147:06

lost [music] $250,000 on the event.

147:09

>> Ian then explains why he thought this

147:11

event would do well.

147:12

>> [music]

147:12

>> He thinks it was because he brought on

147:14

more fighters, invited influencers, and

147:17

because people were aware of the first

147:18

Creator Clash, then they would be

147:20

seeking out information on the second

147:22

one. The top comment on this video

147:23

reads, quote, I felt as if I didn't even

147:26

really hear about Creator Clash 2 until

147:28

it nearly had begun. [music]

147:29

Meanwhile, for the first one, there was

147:31

a lot more hype generated and

147:32

advertising done.

147:35

Ian did release several videos promoting

147:37

Creator Clash 1. [music] These three

147:38

alone add up to 5 million views. Then

147:41

these are videos where Ian promoted

147:43

Creator Clash 2. [music] Together they

147:45

don't even make up 2 million. The

147:47

marketing was certainly an issue as

147:48

creators were not contracted to promote

147:50

it. This could also be a reason why an

147:53

event that ostensibly doubled in size

147:55

failed so terribly that it only got

147:57

50,000 pay-per-view purchases. That is

147:59

half of the first Critter Clash. Ian

148:02

also claims pirating was a large issue.

148:04

>> We didn't have any antipiriracy

148:06

measures. We [music] weren't prepared to

148:08

deal with uh what ended up happening.

148:11

Amongst the 800 pirated streaming sites,

148:13

[music]

148:14

there were between 1.3 and 3 million

148:17

viewers.

148:18

>> Ian then moves on to expenses. He lists

148:20

the larger arena, a larger broadcasting

148:23

team, [music] the entire hotel he rented

148:24

out, and the gala. We also had events uh

148:27

the day before the fight and the day

148:29

after the fight so that you know

148:32

fighters and [music] friends and family

148:33

could come together and uh process their

148:36

trauma. Yeah, some of these things that

148:38

might seem extraneous u in my opinion

148:42

were entirely necessary and I wouldn't

148:45

uh I wouldn't change it for the world.

148:47

Uh I also I mean as evidenced by the uh

148:51

by the pay-per-view streams uh it

148:53

wouldn't have made a difference. [music]

148:55

The creators at this event did not know

148:57

the disaster they participated in until

148:59

much later. [music] Ian would end up

149:01

eating the $250,000 loss. And to fund

149:04

raise directly for the charity, he would

149:05

upload the full Creator Clash 2 [music]

149:07

stream, which ended up performing poorly

149:09

compared to his other videos. And

149:11

separately, Ian would do a 24-hour live

149:13

stream to raise money. [music] The live

149:15

stream, as per the green number on

149:17

screen, ended up raising a total of

149:19

$141,000.

149:21

That is also where this clip comes from.

149:23

who's millennials in their IBS. I swear.

149:27

[music]

149:27

>> Okay,

149:30

I'm back

149:32

and I'm watching this [ __ ] insane

149:36

Tik Tok.

149:38

>> Well, I want to ask Rajar a question

149:40

first.

149:41

>> Okay,

149:42

>> Rajar.

149:43

>> Wait, we should get Rajar in here.

149:45

>> Okay.

149:46

>> I mean, if you can.

149:47

>> Well, if you [music] can. I just want to

149:49

ask him if you've always been [ __ ]

149:50

your pants.

149:52

No,

149:52

>> cuz since I've known you, you've [music]

149:54

always had like IBS. You've always been

149:58

[ __ ] yourself.

149:59

>> Yeah, well,

150:02

you know, viewers would take this as Ana

150:04

humiliating its on Twitter. She stated,

150:07

quote, "Shitting pant is not a literal

150:09

term. It's just an expression for

150:11

someone who has tummy troubles. [music]

150:12

It was me asking his best friend in chat

150:14

if Ian always had stomach issues. You

150:16

guys just take everything out of context

150:18

to fit your weird narrative."

150:20

>> [music]

150:20

>> unquote. This would not be the only time

150:22

Ana would speak on Ian's bowel

150:24

movements.

150:25

>> We had stopped for Tim Hortons and he

150:28

had gotten donuts and a double double.

150:32

In Canada, we don't use oil-based

150:35

creamers. We use cream creamers. [music]

150:38

So, the combination of the the gluten

150:41

from the donuts plus the [music]

150:44

uh lactose caused him to have an

150:46

emergency. like he had to [music] like

150:49

stop the car

150:51

and like he thought he was going to have

150:53

to go in the woods cuz it was so bad.

150:54

>> As was the [music] case in 2017, Ian's

150:57

fans, now more so detractors, were

151:00

coming through Ana's stream looking for

151:01

similar content.

151:04

>> Oh [ __ ] I clicked it. [ __ ]

151:10

That's what you get for clicking on it.

151:12

A barrage. Ana could be seen on Twitter

151:15

arguing with other creators. Eventually,

151:17

she expressed the desire to delete her

151:19

Twitter. Instead, she deleted that

151:21

tweet. Ana and focusing on addressing

151:24

her detractors was making sure those

151:25

people would continue to be in her

151:27

audience. As for Ian, it was late 2023

151:30

that something definitively had changed.

151:32

[music] Today, we're going to be ranking

151:34

and reviewing these Cheeits using the

151:36

Spectrum,

151:38

the generational spectrum. When I

151:40

[music] watched it, when you were done

151:41

editing it, I was like, "Oh, holy shit."

151:44

Like, he's figured it out.

151:45

>> Mhm.

151:45

>> Because I couldn't say anything [music]

151:47

to you about the energy change

151:51

>> that you had decided to kind of like not

151:53

even I don't even think it was it was

151:55

subconscious, I think. But the last like

151:59

>> couple of years, I would even say

152:00

[music]

152:01

>> your energy has shifted in your videos

152:03

and people would say it. So, when I

152:06

watched it and I was like, "Oh, holy

152:07

[ __ ] he's figured it out." I was able

152:09

to like bring it up to [music] you like,

152:10

"Okay, now go look at the Cheeit video

152:13

and like tell me." [laughter]

152:14

>> The Cheeit video is such a great

152:15

example.

152:16

>> You can see the difference between this

152:17

one and the Cheeit video. And you

152:18

watched it and for the first time you

152:20

were like, "Oh yeah, there it is."

152:21

>> It's so [ __ ] weird.

152:24

>> It's so weird cuz I It isn't in like it

152:28

wasn't in my face at all.

152:31

>> Like I can see it now. I can see the

152:34

difference. And it's it's really [music]

152:35

kind of sad because I don't it's an

152:38

energy and it's a vibe and it's like,

152:41

you know, if if I think [snorts] that's

152:43

what a lot of people have been picking

152:45

up on is like, oh, the vibes are off.

152:47

>> Yeah.

152:48

>> I think it's important to, [music]

152:50

you know, care about the content that

152:51

I'm making and care about the impact

152:54

that it has. And I made that choice.

152:56

[music] And it kind of hurt to realize

152:59

like, oh [ __ ] like now now everything's

153:02

different or whatever. It was low energy

153:04

Ian fumbling through boxes of CheezIts,

153:06

ranking them on an arbitrary rating

153:08

system not based in comedy or

153:09

commentary. Ian had likely become so

153:12

afraid to offend to say anything that he

153:14

had regressed to saying nothing at all.

153:16

Even the tamest bad unboxings were a

153:18

commentary on the unboxing trend at the

153:20

time.

153:21

>> Bro, these are insane. These make you go

153:24

geyser mode.

153:28

quote, "I'm glad that Idubbbz is keeping

153:30

his content fresh with revolutionary

153:32

bits like geyser [music] mode. I

153:34

honestly don't know what audience

153:35

Idubbbz is for now. This is postmodern

153:37

Idubbbz." Ian did try to bring one of

153:40

his series back, which was legit food

153:42

reviews. In this video, he would eat

153:44

what appears to be a condiment off

153:46

forest foliage. Though this was a series

153:48

built on critiquing food reviews, and

153:50

the large-scale criticisms of those

153:52

channels had long passed, viewers were

153:54

far more receptive to this video. quote,

153:56

"Idubbb's challenging the limits of his

153:58

immune system like the good old days."

154:00

Unquote.

154:01

>> That was one of my main concerns is I

154:03

was like, I don't want to come back and

154:04

just do the same [ __ ] Yeah.

154:06

>> That I've been doing cuz that feels so

154:09

Uncle Rico and so like lame.

154:13

>> But that's the thing is that people want

154:14

that. They want you to relive their

154:16

childhood. When they see that pairing

154:19

that, you know, that group together,

154:20

they're like, "Oh, just like old times."

154:22

So, like they they expect to see the

154:25

same [ __ ] again.

154:26

>> Yeah, cuz I was even apprehensive about

154:28

doing like a legit food review where I'm

154:30

goofing around in the woods.

154:31

>> I know.

154:32

>> I'm just like I don't know. Like I'm

154:34

[ __ ] 34

154:36

>> and I I had to pull teeth to get [music]

154:39

to do that. [laughter] Like you really

154:41

want to

154:43

um stay true [music] to like your

154:46

beliefs and who you are and and you've

154:48

always been that way. And I think that

154:50

like comments were coming in and saying

154:53

these things and you felt like [music]

154:55

you don't know what's right for my

154:57

channel. You don't know what's right for

154:59

me. And that's just you period. Like if

155:00

I tell you to do something, you're going

155:02

to be like, you don't know what's good

155:03

for me. I'm going to do the opposite

155:05

thing. And I think that that is what has

155:07

happened between you and like your

155:09

viewers is like your viewers are like,

155:11

"Well, to stop doing this." And then

155:13

it's almost like you're like, "I'm going

155:14

to do more of this." [music]

155:16

>> Ian is still stubborn. There are

155:18

detractors for certain, but there are

155:20

also viewers that want him to succeed.

155:22

There is this dichotomy in claiming that

155:24

he is empathetic and has elected to

155:26

understand people. Yet, when others

155:28

reach out, he builds barrier upon

155:29

barrier to not internalize what they are

155:31

saying. As viewers have expressed, they

155:34

want faster paced, more captivating

155:36

content. They want less of Ana and more

155:38

Idubbbz. He did the exact opposite of

155:41

this with his newest podcast titled She

155:43

Ruined My Career. Yeah,

155:47

>> she ruined my career.

155:50

What do you think about that as a as a

155:52

podcast title? I mean, we've already

155:55

discussed this plenty.

155:56

>> Yeah.

155:57

>> For for you and me, this is the, you

155:59

know,

155:59

>> Yeah.

156:00

>> This is typical.

156:01

>> I think it would be Well, would it be

156:04

nice to like cue people in on that

156:07

>> like a little bit more self-aware kind

156:10

of

156:10

>> I [music] think so

156:11

>> topic. I think that it is important for

156:14

people to understand that like it's not

156:16

coming from like a

156:19

like a self-defense

156:20

type of um

156:23

place, which I think some people do

156:25

think that's where it's coming from,

156:27

>> but it's more so coming from like I love

156:31

the idea that one day no one will have

156:34

any idea

156:35

>> what that means,

156:36

>> where it came from,

156:37

>> right?

156:38

>> I just think that's cool,

156:39

>> right? Um, like right now everybody

156:42

knows where it came from, but I would

156:45

like like I'd like to think like in 10

156:47

years we're like Joe Rogan level,

156:50

>> right?

156:51

>> And then everybody's like I Yeah, it's

156:52

just the name. I don't know.

156:54

>> Right.

156:54

>> The fem fam fatal lore that like you see

156:57

in fiction a lot. I think I want to

157:00

clarify like

157:01

>> she ruined my career was not my idea.

157:04

>> Yeah. Like that was that was your

157:06

>> that was me decision.

157:08

>> And you were very passionate about it.

157:09

And like I've learned over the years

157:11

that when Ian gets really passionate

157:13

about something, you you just you have

157:16

to accept it.

157:17

>> Mhm. This was a name chosen as a quote

157:19

unquote tongue-in-cheek comment on how

157:21

Ian and Nissa are sometimes viewed. But

157:24

this was also a challenge in aiming

157:26

their podcast to be a success akin to

157:28

the Joe Rogan experience. It gives

157:30

motivation to detractors to not allow

157:32

this to happen. Rather than upload this

157:34

on its own channel, they began uploading

157:36

it on the Maximum Damage channel. The

157:39

same channel the soontobe defunct Dax

157:41

Flame hosted Hot Seat. This podcast

157:43

would end up being a grand failure. It

157:45

would not even be the most popular talk

157:47

show on Maximum Damage. The episodes

157:49

would continue to be criticized, which

157:51

caused Ian to dig his heels in further.

157:54

what it is. I I think in general is it's

157:56

just me being uh flippant like a bit

158:00

like um

158:02

like instead of like accepting the fact

158:04

like oh it is true like I I'd maybe hear

158:07

a comment like bro looks [ __ ]

158:10

labbotomized in his most recent video

158:13

he's talking so slow and this and that

158:16

or like on the podcast and I'm like

158:19

>> I I would be flipping. I would be like

158:21

well you don't know what you're talking

158:22

about. I literally like all these videos

158:25

you've been watching of like bad

158:26

unboxings and things like I cut that

158:28

[ __ ] up to a disgusting degree and it

158:30

makes me appear very quick

158:34

>> and it makes things like uh it just

158:36

makes the whole thing a lot more like

158:38

captivating like you can't look away.

158:41

[music]

158:41

>> And so when something is like a bit more

158:42

calm I'm like no but that that was like

158:45

I intentionally did that. And so instead

158:48

of being like fair point, it does come

158:51

across that way. Uh I'll take that into

158:54

consideration for you know the

158:56

audience's sake. Uh I became I think a

158:59

little bit um

159:01

>> belligerent

159:02

stubborn.

159:03

>> Ian was correct in his assessment. He

159:05

was belligerent. Hence his first video

159:07

of 2024.

159:09

>> On today's episode I'm going [music] to

159:10

be complaining about the

159:12

>> cardark. Now, if you're not familiar

159:13

with Cardarks, uh it's basically this

159:15

guy Sebastian [music] who works for a

159:17

radio show who had the idea to shame

159:21

people who aren't bringing [music] their

159:23

carts back to the cart corral. Dingd car

159:25

doors, spots taken up, grocery prices

159:28

raised sky high because employees have

159:31

to go out and spend their time hunting

159:32

down carts. We are publicly shaming

159:34

those dicks who don't take back their

159:37

shopping carts.

159:40

Cardarks. Cardark. You You curved your

159:42

card. You didn't take it back to the car

159:43

coral where it belonged.

159:46

>> Ian was making a video on the channel

159:48

Cardarks, a public shaming of those who

159:50

do not adhere to a simple social norm.

159:53

This at its core is a very simple yet

159:55

effective shaming. The Cardinal makes

159:57

the simple request that customers put

159:59

their cart back and rather than eat the

160:01

shame, some customers become belligerent

160:03

and make the situation far worse and

160:05

more entertaining for the Carter's

160:07

viewers. Ian does point out that the

160:10

cartonarch himself can be crude and will

160:12

continue to harass victims until they

160:13

leave.

160:14

>> To pretend that Agent Sebastian isn't

160:18

being an [ __ ] and he isn't being an

160:20

unreasonable piece of [ __ ] Like come

160:23

on.

160:23

>> So you're harassing people and leave

160:25

their carts.

160:26

>> Polite ask. We're not a harass. It's a

160:27

polite ask. We're we're we're sweet and

160:29

loving about it. Like his lazy bones in

160:31

a couple other ways. It's oral hygiene

160:33

and such. This is the thing with these

160:35

lazy bones sympathizers and crackhead

160:37

kids. Like maybe you were like just off

160:39

homeless dudes all day. That's why

160:41

you're tired. Is that why you're tired?

160:42

From giving out to homeless men for

160:45

charity cuz it's a charity thing. We're

160:46

we're we're sweet and loving about it.

160:48

Very polite.

160:48

>> The car will often push further by

160:50

applying magnets to their cars. The

160:52

channel delivers what the condant cops

160:54

did, a shaming and outlet for viewers

160:56

own grievances. Though Ian takes issue

160:59

with the Carter's content, Ian does

161:01

something far cruer than what the Carter

161:03

does. He takes away the victim's agency.

161:06

Yes, it's very easy to call these people

161:08

unhinged. Another word you can use is

161:10

disabled. Their brain isn't working like

161:12

yours or mine. For some people, they

161:15

feel like they have to answer the door.

161:17

If it's really worth it for someone to

161:19

not take the cart back to the cart

161:21

corral, their life is not [ __ ] roses.

161:26

Their life is not pleasant. Ian having a

161:28

building detractor base deny him agency

161:30

by pinning Ana as his handler is the

161:33

same line of thinking and believing that

161:34

the caror's victims have no control of

161:36

their actions.

161:37

>> That's another comment we get here and

161:38

there is you don't know what was going

161:39

on in their life. They must have had a

161:40

terrible day.

161:41

>> I think that guy had some serious stuff

161:44

going on.

161:44

>> Yeah. I

161:45

>> regardless of your interaction with him,

161:47

I think he I don't know what it was.

161:49

Mental either mental issues or

161:51

>> Well, it seemed like he was a contractor

161:52

or something like he's seemed to be

161:54

gainfully employed. Uh but yeah, maybe

161:57

maybe not. My my motto is no violence

161:59

whatsoever. People say, "Well, why don't

162:01

that was a that was a small guy. You

162:02

could have taken him carts." Like,

162:03

that's not the point.

162:04

>> It's for me to beat guys up, but this

162:06

guy was such a like little guy and I was

162:08

I was like, "Okay, I'll let him swing at

162:09

me once, but I was it was overheating

162:11

cuz it was like 105°."

162:13

>> That sort of like flippant behavior

162:16

makes me want to [ __ ] It makes me

162:19

want to be violent. It makes me want to

162:20

be very violent.

162:21

>> Ian has not changed. He has not

162:23

developed empathy as he has toted. Like

162:26

in his content cops, Ian makes all the

162:28

considerations for the wouldbe victim

162:30

yet completely fails to consider who the

162:32

carner could be outside of his channel

162:33

or podcast. His cherry-picking moments

162:36

to favor his perspective as he had

162:37

always done. [music] I know because I've

162:40

made the same videos and I feel not the

162:43

exact same videos, but I I uh I

162:46

understand essentially picking out the

162:49

right thing to target [music] so that

162:52

people don't have sympathy for the

162:55

victim or the

162:57

>> you know how to provoke someone to have

163:00

behavior in front of the camera that

163:02

will

163:03

>> right

163:04

>> cause a reaction with the audience. It's

163:06

essentially a sweet spot where it's

163:08

like, you know, given like a slightly

163:11

different set of circumstances,

163:14

Sebastian wouldn't uh, you know, be one

163:18

called like a they say it a bit

163:20

ironically, what a hero. Uh, he wouldn't

163:22

be called a hero and these people

163:24

wouldn't be like super villainized for

163:26

leaving their card out.

163:27

>> Yeah, it's the Karen phenomenon as well.

163:30

I I you know of the videos that I've

163:32

seen there are times when I'm thinking

163:35

that person either is being triggered.

163:38

It doesn't justify their behavior but

163:40

they're not in their right mind one two

163:43

they could literally be suffering from

163:45

psychosis or schizophrenia or something

163:47

like you know there's a percentage of

163:49

people and

163:50

>> well that's what he says. He says that

163:52

uh [music] you know uh not all

163:54

disabilities are visible so I can only

163:57

go with what I can see. Ian uses a

164:00

one-sided argument that if used on the

164:02

card would make his argument fall apart.

164:04

Should Ian apologize to Keemstar or even

164:06

Leafy because perhaps their actions were

164:08

caused by mental illness? The Cardinal

164:10

could also be mentally ill. What this

164:12

video exposes is that Ian does not

164:14

envision himself as the hammer, the

164:15

card, but rather his victims, the nail.

164:18

when you hit me with like I'm your

164:20

teacher or I'm an authority figure and

164:22

I'm telling you or I'm suggesting to you

164:26

what to do, like the the themes are like

164:29

very similar to how I was spoken to when

164:31

I was maybe doing something that I

164:33

shouldn't in high school or whatever.

164:36

So, it it it's very obvious why the way

164:40

he does things is triggering to some

164:42

people and why they would just go off.

164:44

>> This is what Ian says while closing the

164:46

video. I know we love to make all of

164:48

their actions malicious, but it's just

164:51

not the [ __ ] reality. They're not

164:53

thinking about you. Not thinking about

164:55

you isn't the biggest crime. We do it

164:57

every [ __ ] day. Not thinking about

164:59

others is the core of antisocial

165:01

behavior, something that leads to the

165:04

worst crimes. Furthermore, Ian puts up

165:06

examples of what he believes are lesser

165:08

crimes. One of these is road rage and

165:11

aggressive driving. Ian a few months

165:13

prior made a video complaining about

165:14

cars and roads where he directly

165:16

contradicts his feelings about this.

165:18

This video I feel [music] is a great

165:20

example of showing you the dangers of

165:22

road rage and how it can affect your

165:25

mind. It can make you think that you're

165:27

like the main character in this world

165:29

[music] and that other people don't

165:30

exist and aren't experiencing the same

165:33

traffic that you're experiencing. You

165:35

can do a lot of illegal [ __ ] in your

165:36

car, but generally you can get away with

165:38

it 99% of the time. I don't like that. I

165:41

don't like even having that option. I'm

165:43

like, I want everyone to follow the

165:45

exact rules so that we can do everything

165:47

effectively and correct.

165:49

>> For all the affforementioned reasons,

165:50

Ian's Cart video was poorly received.

165:53

>> Mike Cart one was not really

165:55

wellreceived. It was like the perfect

165:58

kind of in the middle,

165:59

>> okay,

166:00

>> topic where like half my audience was

166:02

like, "This is cool. Uh, he he has

166:05

always annoyed me as well." Uh, and then

166:07

the other half was like, "Idubbbz,

166:09

you're lazy bones. Uh, these people are

166:12

pieces of [ __ ] Like, they need to be

166:14

called out on their behavior. Like, this

166:17

is necessary." Idubbbz TV in the window

166:19

of 2024 would average just over a

166:21

million views a month. Out of the eight

166:23

public videos he's posted on his main

166:25

channel this year, not a single one

166:27

would surpass a million, pointing to

166:29

viewers preferring his older videos. on

166:31

maximum damage. Though the uploads were

166:33

far more frequent, Ian almost only

166:36

uploaded the She Ruined My Life podcast.

166:38

This series viewership began at over

166:40

300,000 views monthly, and it would

166:42

slump to just over 50,000 views monthly

166:45

later in the year. The couple would only

166:47

continue to feel the strain of this

166:49

failure.

166:49

>> I think I hold a lot of selfhatred

166:53

[snorts] for coming into his life.

166:56

>> You're worried that you ruined him.

166:57

>> Yeah. I And it is like a it's a common

167:00

theme. You know, people were saying it

167:02

before that video even came out and and

167:04

um

167:05

>> and they definitely were after.

167:06

>> Yeah. And I I asked him I've asked him

167:08

this a couple times, like if he could go

167:10

back to [music]

167:12

being the way that he was and thinking

167:13

the things that he was and have all the

167:15

money again and all the, you know,

167:17

success and whatever or be where he is

167:19

now, like which one would would he

167:20

choose? And he always tells me like, you

167:22

know, now that I know what I know and

167:24

I'm feeling what I'm feeling, I can't

167:26

like the idea of going back is not an

167:28

option. This reoccurring character is

167:30

Crater Psychology in Seattle. A fitting

167:32

guest as Ian and Ana would often express

167:35

their feelings and not much more on this

167:36

podcast. [music]

167:37

The podcast also failed to comment on

167:39

anything larger that could perhaps

167:41

attract potential viewers. [music] The

167:43

potent stench of failure had become too

167:45

great. It had attracted those hungry to

167:47

critique. As Ian had once done with

167:50

uninspired content, [music] streamers

167:51

Andy Warski and PPP through the liveream

167:54

Kino Casino selected this podcast as a

167:56

common target. [music]

167:57

It's never going to get big because

168:00

we're going to see this podcast is [ __ ]

168:02

>> Oh, it's the worst.

168:03

>> It's terrible. It's never going to blow

168:05

up. It's never going to grow. It's only

168:07

going to shrink and shrink and shrink.

168:09

And the people who do watch it and do

168:11

know what it is are going to be people

168:14

who know exactly why it's called My Wife

168:17

Ruined My Career.

168:19

>> So, this is like our first folder,

168:20

right? When we start the show. Hey guys,

168:22

here we go. All right.

168:24

>> Oh, damn.

168:28

Nuto,

168:29

>> it's a it's a Naruto croc.

168:34

>> It goes on for 20 minutes.

168:35

>> This somehow they discuss the croc in

168:40

depth and in detail. They talk about how

168:43

the croc

168:45

spoils Naruto

168:50

for like 10 minutes. [laughter]

168:54

This is the content they have. That's

168:57

Joe Rogan experience level. [laughter]

169:02

What? What is this [ __ ] How do you sell

169:04

this to somebody? Sell me this show.

169:08

Sell me this show. How do you sell this

169:10

to somebody without making it a hate

169:12

watch? Like, what is like, okay,

169:13

[laughter]

169:14

remember there was this guy, the content

169:17

cop? Yeah, I kind of remember him. Okay.

169:20

Well, he doesn't do anything like

169:22

Content Cop anymore. Instead, he just

169:25

talks about doing chores with his wife.

169:28

>> She ruined my career. Even in its early

169:30

episodes, had an enormous issue. Where

169:32

episode 2 got 25,000 views, the Aino

169:35

Casino's commentary of the very same

169:36

episode garnered nearly double the

169:38

viewership. PPP was correct in assessing

169:41

there existed a larger viewership of

169:42

detractors than fans of the show.

169:45

>> Is this like a segue [music] into the

169:46

Apple conversation? Apple conversation.

169:50

>> Get ready. It's the Apple conversation.

169:53

>> I was waiting for this one, folks.

169:55

>> Oh man. Ana is unable to visualize

169:59

anything in her brain. [laughter]

170:03

>> Her brain does not work. She is not able

170:06

to see an apple at all.

170:10

>> So she is a five. She can't even imagine

170:14

the outline of the apple. And on one end

170:17

of the spectrum, you have someone like

170:19

Ana based [music] on her description

170:21

that there's like nothing going on in

170:23

there. There's no visual.

170:25

>> There's nothing going on in her brain.

170:27

And she nods. Yes, there is nothing

170:29

going on in my head, sir. Like the

170:32

mental illness here is insane. Only lose

170:34

me back. Really nailed it here. I have

170:37

no brain and I must pontificate.

170:39

[laughter]

170:40

As Kino Casino's influence became

170:42

greater than she ruined my life, as

170:44

their episodes were now hitting below

170:45

5,000 views to triple the viewership on

170:47

Kino Casino's channel, speculation began

170:50

on whether Ian and Ana knew of the

170:52

casino.

170:52

>> I have to flirt more with my husband on

170:54

the podcast so people stop making hate

170:56

videos.

170:58

[screaming]

171:00

>> Yes.

171:00

>> Yes.

171:01

>> Like he reads the comments, right?

171:03

Remember, he's the guy get he he he said

171:06

this he said the comments are really

171:08

important to him and what's 99% of the

171:12

comments.

171:13

>> Listen, Officer Waffle, I I have been

171:15

agreeing with you that there's no way

171:16

they watch the show. But the thing is

171:18

they get a lot of comments about us that

171:20

they delete.

171:21

>> Yeah.

171:22

>> So, there's a reason for that. And on

171:24

their Paywalled show, they're talking

171:26

about how they do watch the haters. They

171:29

watch people that clip them and they're

171:30

seething about it. First of all, like it

171:33

it it really like the hatred doesn't

171:36

even have as much to do with Ana as it

171:38

does with the fact that Idubbbz's

171:40

content sucks now. He does. That's the

171:44

truth. If Idubbbz was still putting out

171:47

content cops that were on the level that

171:49

he put out back in the day, most people

171:52

would overlook Ana. On May 16th, 2024,

171:55

the channel Cold Ones, composed of

171:57

former Cancer Crew members, Max Mofo and

171:59

Chad, uploaded a video testing YouTuber

172:01

products. This video sits at 7.5 million

172:05

views. In just 53 minutes, the two would

172:07

go through 37 products. More than this

172:10

meant a taste test, playing a game, or

172:12

reviewing a shoe. They speedily

172:14

interacted with every product, show the

172:16

cost the creator attached to said

172:18

product, and the year the product

172:19

released. As a direct contrast, Ian

172:21

uploaded a video titled, "Discovering

172:23

the most epic influencer brand collabs.

172:26

Ian's video begins with some structure,

172:28

but no substance. It begins with him

172:30

scrolling through articles while

172:31

providing superficial commentary as he

172:33

does not review any of the influencer

172:35

collaborations. The video then turns

172:37

into Idubbbz prototyping nonsense

172:39

influencer collaborations with little to

172:41

no context to understand the innate joke

172:43

he is making.

172:43

>> Okay, I'm going to be honest, guys. This

172:45

next one is inspired by a tweet that I

172:47

saw. This [music] isn't original.

172:50

But this is going to be a lot like uh a

172:52

Wedies box.

172:55

All right, guys. This is a brand collab

172:57

that no one asked for. I think everyone

172:59

[music] wants. Clearly, this box isn't

173:02

feminine enough. Ian had a similar idea

173:05

to Cold Ones, only the execution was far

173:07

from desired. The current view count

173:09

sits at 367,000 views, meaning that Cold

173:12

One's video received over 2,000% more

173:15

viewership than Ian's video on a similar

173:17

concept. Once more, the top comment on

173:19

Ian's video rejects the video and

173:21

instead asks for a fan mail bad

173:22

unboxing. As for cold ones in Idubbbz,

173:25

viewers were looking closer at these two

173:27

channels, partly because of this image

173:29

at Max at his wedding. It is a

173:31

recreation of a much older image where

173:33

Ian could be seen in the back. With

173:35

these two images, it was pieced together

173:36

that Ian did not attend Max's wedding

173:38

and soon delivered an explanation.

173:40

[music] Yeah, I talked to Max about the

173:43

the wedding situation. Uh when he was

173:46

first [ __ ] sending out invites, I was

173:48

like really uncertain of how that was

173:51

going to work out cuz I had some uh kind

173:54

of important plans here in the States.

173:56

So, we uh we went a month earlier to

174:00

kind of, you know, give him and cat our

174:02

well wishes. Um that's why I was in

174:05

Australia. And it's kind of also why we

174:07

didn't do cold ones is cuz he was

174:10

ramping up for his wedding stuff.

174:13

>> Fans and detractors speculated as to why

174:15

Ian had specifically missed this wedding

174:17

when George Miller could attend despite

174:19

being on tour. The accepted answer was

174:22

Ana's tattoo appointment, though it

174:24

could also have been talks for a

174:25

potential Creator Class 3, as he stated

174:28

in his podcast that likely took place in

174:30

the time frame of Max's wedding. We just

174:32

got back from a trip to LA,

174:36

uh, where I mean, our only reason to go

174:37

there was to visit some friends, uh,

174:40

talk a little bit about, uh, potential

174:43

creator clash and, um, for Ana to finish

174:46

her back tattoo.

174:47

>> While speculation on their friendship,

174:49

Mun Wild, Ian did make an appearance on

174:51

Cold Ones in an episode published June

174:53

6th, 2024.

174:55

>> Our special guest, Ian. Ian has flown

174:57

all the way here to Albania to test

174:59

these gadgets in this undisclosed

175:01

location in Studio Kitchen with us.

175:03

>> Ian across this episode was less

175:05

animated than the two co-hosts that were

175:07

in their element. The comments were not

175:09

shy in pointing this out. Quote, "It was

175:11

so kind of you guys to bring on this

175:12

freshly labbotomized boy. He almost acts

175:15

like he's present and living in the

175:17

moment. It's so sweet of you two to

175:19

invite your lesbian aunt on the show.

175:21

She didn't contribute much, but she

175:22

seemed to enjoy watching you two have

175:24

fun nonetheless." unquote.

175:26

>> So, you started doing kind of like more

175:29

Ian content than Idubbbz content on your

175:33

YouTube channel. Whether it was

175:34

subconscious or not, I'm not sure, but I

175:36

think you started to like go, okay,

175:38

well,

175:39

>> this is a good point because I

175:41

>> that was my intention when I went to

175:44

Australia this time around is I said

175:47

like I want to come across as authentic.

175:50

>> Yeah. I don't want to be like a crazy

175:54

exaggerated person uh because it doesn't

175:57

it doesn't feel right for whatever

175:59

reason. I feel really bad uh that I

176:02

didn't uh I mean it's a good experiment.

176:05

I'm glad I did it, but I I really wish

176:08

that I had known that uh that energy is

176:14

I think kind of needed for something

176:16

like a Cold Ones video. Though Ian's

176:18

friendship with Max and Chad were no

176:20

longer being questioned, there was a

176:21

friend, or rather friends, that were

176:23

going through a feud of sorts. H3H3 and

176:26

Hassan [ __ ] once co-host of a podcast,

176:29

separated because of not so different

176:31

opinions and what is happening in Israel

176:32

and Palestine. After a year of attacking

176:34

each other through their streams, Ethan

176:36

set out to make an expose similar to

176:38

that of a content cop. This released

176:40

January 31st, 2025. In February, Ian was

176:44

asked by a member of his Discord for his

176:46

opinion on the content nuke. Ian

176:48

responded, quote, "We ain't talking

176:50

about any of that, just a sensitive

176:52

topic is all."

176:54

Perhaps this was for the best. As Ian

176:56

the same month announced creator class 3

176:59

here, he also admits about lying about

177:01

making a documentary of the whole thing.

177:03

We're all getting punched in the head.

177:05

I'm documenting the whole thing. There

177:07

will eventually be a documentary about

177:09

the boxing event. I'm just going to be

177:10

real with you. That was the biggest lie

177:12

I ever told. But seriously, I was

177:14

intending to make a documentary. It just

177:17

I didn't know what was going to be

177:18

important. I just have like a hundred

177:20

hours of me sparring and shadow boxing

177:23

in like 4K. It's the most boring [ __ ]

177:26

ever. As for Creator Clash, Ian explains

177:28

that he is running a Tiltify charity

177:30

campaign alongside the event. That way,

177:32

if it did fail, money would still be

177:34

going to charity. Ian appeared to be

177:37

taking a more pragmatic approach. He

177:39

even stated publicly in his podcast that

177:41

he would not be touching the H3 content

177:43

nuke, possibly to avoid the drama

177:45

seeping into his event.

177:46

>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. Uh, no,

177:49

I'm not going to give you our con our

177:50

thoughts on the H3 content nuke.

177:53

[laughter]

177:54

>> I refuse.

177:56

>> We don't we don't we let me put it this

177:58

way. We're very busy.

178:02

>> And yeah, if we if we let any of that

178:05

enter our [ __ ] lives, we'd kill

178:07

ourselves.

178:09

>> [laughter]

178:10

>> Even though Ian was opposed to

178:12

commenting on it in depth on Twitter, he

178:14

was still talking about it in justest.

178:16

>> Oh, what is this?

178:18

>> I think that it's [laughter]

178:20

>> I think it's a good option there.

178:22

>> I think it's [ __ ] I like I like

178:24

Idubbbz. He's a good guy, but I don't

178:26

like this. Wait, stupid.

178:28

It's not a [ __ ] petty beef. It's like

178:30

this guy is evil and he's doing

178:32

anti-semitism

178:34

and also he's way out of my weight

178:35

class. Still on Twitter, one of Ian's

178:38

former editors known as Froggy Tonic was

178:40

constantly tweeting against Ethan and

178:42

Nila. Though Ana stated that Froggy

178:44

Tonic was no longer working for Ian and

178:46

hasn't for a long time. Even so, Ana

178:49

could still be seen being chummy with

178:50

Froggy Tonic on Twitter.

178:52

>> Listen, I've been dealing with this [ __ ]

178:53

for like 2 years at this point. The part

178:56

that got to me about this is just like

178:59

this is apparently someone who's like

179:02

[snorts] a professional career as an

179:04

editor who's worked with my friends on a

179:07

the previous Creator Clash, edited

179:09

everything for them, who they still

179:12

interact with. The disdain for Ian had

179:14

gotten to the point that someone had

179:16

vandalized Ian Stewart review

179:18

vandalization. However, the situation

179:20

emerged evolved into something far worse

179:23

and far more personal for H3H3.

179:26

>> This morning, we got a visit from Child

179:28

Protective Services.

179:32

I told this story on the show a few

179:34

weeks ago about how um when we adopted

179:36

Olive, she had giardia and then I um the

179:40

next day

179:42

um Sunny started having diarrhea. So, we

179:45

suspected he might have giardia. seeing

179:47

[snorts] as that he's an infant, he's

179:48

crawling around, he's putting everything

179:49

in his mouth, etc. Makes sense, right?

179:51

It's obvious.

179:53

So, um, it turned into this whole snark

179:56

narrative that our house is a is a, uh,

180:00

a mess, [snorts] that there's dog [ __ ]

180:03

everywhere, that Sunny is eating [ __ ]

180:05

and getting Jardia, and that, you know,

180:07

etc., etc.

180:08

>> He was checking the house and like,

180:10

where do the dogs go potty? Because we

180:14

heard that there's poop on the floor.

180:16

The house is spotless.

180:17

>> Our house is so clean.

180:19

>> To summarize, Ethan adopted Olive, a

180:21

dog. Olive allegedly already had

180:23

Giardia, a parasite. Giardia can be

180:26

transferred through direct contact with

180:28

fecal matter from surface to surface or

180:30

just through water. Ethan in a separate

180:33

video talked at length about how he

180:35

believes that his child and perhaps he

180:37

got the parasite, though he would later

180:39

claim it was never transferred to anyone

180:41

and only Olive ever had it. With

180:43

everything escalating, so did H3's

180:45

pressure, demanding the support of Yin

180:47

Ana by the disavowing of Assan's

180:49

tangential community.

180:50

>> The last thing I said to Ana, we were

180:52

texting before I ever talked about it

180:55

and I said, she's like, I don't care

180:57

about this guy. He's a nobody and you

180:59

know, blah blah blah. And I said, well,

181:01

then you'll have no problem uh publicly

181:03

denouncing it, right?

181:04

>> And then from there, the [music]

181:06

conversation ended.

181:07

>> She never replied. Just say he doesn't

181:09

at least say something like he doesn't

181:10

work for me and I dis and I strongly

181:12

disagree and I support Ethan and Ela.

181:15

The problem is

181:16

>> the problem is that she doesn't.

181:17

>> That's the problem.

181:18

>> That's the problem.

181:19

>> She she she actually

181:20

>> she thinks they have a point.

181:22

>> That's the problem.

181:22

>> Yeah. So go [ __ ] yourself.

181:24

>> I agree. I

181:26

>> Who else Who else do we want to burn

181:28

today?

181:29

>> I mean, yeah. This was kind of like a a

181:30

a line what happened today that should

181:33

never be crossed even by like the most

181:36

cynical toxic people.

181:38

>> People are saying this thing like Ana

181:39

ruined Ian. Like no

181:41

>> that's pathetic.

181:42

>> Ian ruined Ian. Ana ruined Ana. Ian

181:45

ruined Ian.

181:46

>> They're both adults.

181:48

>> I agree.

181:48

>> They make their own actions. Ian sucks

181:51

for the same reason right now. He could

181:52

say something too.

181:53

>> Spineless.

181:54

>> He could say something too. He has his

181:56

own following. Ian knows better. He's

181:59

been with us. He's seen us with our

182:01

kids.

182:01

>> Ethan and Nila, furious at their

182:03

children being targeted, attempted to

182:04

find the source of the call. 3 days

182:07

later, on March 10th, Ethan released a

182:08

video believing this dream was a source.

182:11

He lets his dogs [ __ ] all over his

182:13

mansion just and he just leaves a [ __ ]

182:15

on the floor. Something that is probably

182:16

related to the fact that his former

182:18

housekeeper is suing him for a number of

182:20

different reasons. So, I would assume he

182:21

doesn't actually have a housekeeper

182:23

anymore or perhaps he he lost his extra

182:24

housekeeper. So now the house is just

182:26

like covered in dog [ __ ] and he's he has

182:29

kids and his kids like crawl into the

182:31

dog [ __ ] and god forbid. I don't know

182:33

what they do with it. I don't know if

182:35

they eat it or if it's just from like

182:37

contact with it with their hands or

182:38

something, but they contracted a

182:41

parasite that I had previously never

182:43

heard of in my life called Giarda.

182:45

>> Now at this point as he continues, uh

182:47

notice the chat is almost [snorts] in

182:50

complete universal agreement. Call CPS.

182:52

Call child endangerment. CPS, social

182:55

services, bro needs to unirically call

182:56

CPS. That's D child endangerment. Okay.

182:59

If his kids have giardia, they need to

183:00

be taken away. Actual worst father ever,

183:02

etc., etc. I'll let the chat play for

183:04

you, but you can see just [music] how

183:06

crazy this community is. And once again,

183:08

this is Denim's chat from the first. The

183:12

call came on the [music] third. This is

183:14

why Ethan believes the call may have

183:16

come from this community. Beyond

183:17

fleshing out the characters beyond these

183:19

dreams, Ethan Nila did insult Ian and

183:21

Ana for their lack of support for

183:23

ruining their own lives and for

183:25

believing they are fair weather friends.

183:27

If there is anything that has been shown

183:29

to motivate Ian, it is demanding

183:30

something of him. Ian will also attack

183:32

anyone insulting Ana. [music] Two things

183:35

H3H3 was now doing. As such, Ian and his

183:38

podcast did not seem pleased about this

183:40

development and in the same podcast, Ana

183:42

also astutely assesses Ian as Local. I

183:46

uh Ethan's uh uh upset with uh I think

183:50

some of our connections and you know

183:52

we've tried to reach out to Ethan to

183:55

talk privately. Um basically it just

183:58

seems like we're at a bit of an an

184:00

impass. So we want to stay out of the

184:03

drama as much as possible. We don't want

184:05

to pile on and add to anything. So this

184:09

is our, you know, lukewarm addressing of

184:12

it.

184:13

>> Um

184:14

>> yeah, the door is always open. I want to

184:15

like really drive it home. We don't

184:19

condone harassment.

184:22

>> We don't condone harassment of any kind

184:24

>> in of any kind.

184:27

>> Okay. Period. Which is why we have not

184:29

stuck our foot in any of this uh because

184:33

it is not productive. I don't think it's

184:36

helpful. And these are real people who

184:39

have real feelings. I don't really

184:41

expect them [laughter] to to come to bat

184:44

for me or anything. Yeah. If they don't

184:46

agree with it.

184:47

>> Yeah.

184:47

>> And um you know, I don't expect them to

184:50

speak up period on any of it.

184:51

>> And this is like the cycle cuz it is a

184:53

cycle. Um you go they just don't have

184:57

all the information.

184:59

>> If I just clarify and give them the

185:01

information,

185:02

>> right,

185:03

>> then they'll like back off. But of

185:07

course, these people don't give a [ __ ]

185:08

[laughter] like the information. So,

185:10

they take the information and they twist

185:11

it and then you get frustrated and

185:14

you're like, maybe they don't understand

185:16

that I'm not a bad person and they need

185:17

to see that like emotionally this is

185:20

making me sad.

185:21

>> So then you like

185:22

>> cry about it.

185:23

>> Cry about it [laughter] and then they

185:24

[ __ ] think it's funny and then they

185:27

take that and then you get into this

185:29

cycle of like

185:30

>> Yeah. And it's it's you know they some

185:33

people call it like a l cow which has

185:35

become like more of a common term and it

185:38

makes me sad because the people who are

185:41

like farmable

185:43

>> in quotations are people who clearly do

185:47

not have the tools to like take care of

185:51

themselves.

185:52

>> On Twitter, Froggyonic could be seen

185:54

asking Ian for a cotton cop, believing

185:56

that it could create momentum for Ian.

185:58

In reality, this could be one of the

186:00

least thought out things Ian could do.

186:02

It would only guarantee a burning of a

186:04

long-lasting friendship. It would make

186:05

it appear as if he was siding with Assan

186:08

and his distasteful cohorts. It would

186:10

attach a large drama to Crater Clash 3.

186:13

And Ian has stated endlessly how he does

186:15

not want to be the hammer. How returning

186:17

to making a content cop would prove how

186:19

little he has progressed as a quote

186:20

unquote uncle Rico attempting to capture

186:22

a long past time. Then again, these are

186:25

reasonable things to consider, and Ian

186:27

is not so reasonable. Then I go camping.

186:31

People on the internet were talking

186:32

about this camping trip. The trip was

186:34

set up by my coach as something he

186:36

wanted to do in his life. He likes

186:38

camping. Ian's like, "Hey, I want to

186:39

come." Ian came down from Seattle. He

186:41

joined us. Odd Ones Out was there. Alex

186:44

Ernst was there. Steven, another YouTube

186:47

boxer. She was there. A It was a bunch

186:49

of us. on this camping trip is where Ian

186:52

tells me, "Hey, I'm doing another

186:54

content cop." And I was like, "Oh,

186:55

that's cool." And he goes, "Yeah, it's

186:56

on Ethan." And I was like, "Ethan

186:58

Klein?" And he said, "Yeah, is he on

187:00

Ethan Klein?" I thought, "Oh no, why

187:03

would you do that?" I'm thinking, "Oh my

187:05

god, dude. Why are you doing this? Why

187:09

are you trying to cause trouble?"

187:10

Because now I'm thinking, "This is going

187:12

to ruin Creator Clash 3 and I'm going to

187:14

get screwed again." Yes, I can tell him

187:17

I'm concerned. I truly thought it was a

187:19

work. It was like a WWE promo thing

187:21

where like they were going to have a

187:22

fake feud. They're going to make up

187:24

right before Criticos 3 genius

187:26

promotion. I watch a lot of wrestling

187:28

though, so I probably was thinking

187:30

incorrectly. Ian's motivation, as dad

187:33

claims, does not exist outside of his

187:35

own desires. It does not exist to

187:36

promote Creator Clash 3 or serve as a

187:38

well- thoughtout dissection. Instead,

187:41

Ian's main motivation is himself. So Ian

187:44

and I are walking around getting

187:45

firewood and he's like, "Yeah, he he

187:47

Ethan said a bunch of stuff about me and

187:49

Ana and I need to respond to him. So I'm

187:52

going to make a content cop." He puts

187:54

the thing out and he screws every single

187:57

person. He screws Real Good Touring, all

187:59

the business professionals who are

188:01

making this event with him. He screw

188:03

screws me. He screws every other boxer.

188:06

Everyone was screwed from Ian's dumb

188:09

video because he couldn't wait 2 months.

188:12

Ian's content cop on Ethan released

188:13

April 16th. To Ian's credit, in the

188:16

introduction, he was assuming his former

188:18

role of Jester by opening it up with an

188:20

impactful yet whimsical skit. I've been

188:22

lying about everything, [music]

188:24

including my glasses. They're fake. He

188:26

was right about that. That's not even in

188:28

the content nuke. And he was right about

188:30

that, too. How did he know everything?

188:32

How?

188:37

Wake up, Ethan. Wake up, Ethan. Ethan,

188:40

wake up. [music]

188:43

>> Wakey wakey. Ethan, wake up. Ethan, wake

188:46

up.

188:47

>> Time to be awake. Ethan,

188:49

>> wake up. Ethan, this is no longer a

188:52

dream. This is a nightmare. Wake up.

188:54

>> Even Ethan could not deny the intro's

188:56

entertainment value.

188:57

>> This is This is actually pretty

188:59

entertaining. I'm not even [ __ ]

189:00

tripping. This is kind of fun to watch.

189:03

>> The video then turns into an enormous

189:05

mound of nothing.

189:06

>> I don't even know if you can call this a

189:08

content cop. Like this is like a static

189:12

nothing happens. Shitty editing, no

189:14

sketches, no jokes.

189:15

>> I guess they called these slop videos.

189:18

Now

189:18

>> Ian talks about Han, his community's

189:20

endless convoluted dramas. How it

189:23

relates to Ethan Klein and why Ethan

189:24

should improve. It is overall a

189:26

structuralist, confused product that

189:28

opens by trying to be comedically

189:30

inconsiderate, then follows it up by an

189:32

hour of believing he is being

189:34

considerate. This content cop works if

189:36

the viewer is Ian and only Ian as it is

189:38

made for him. Everyone else was

189:40

disappointed. [music] That content cop

189:42

even by my biggest haters. They're like,

189:44

"Oh yeah, that content cop was weak. So

189:46

why are you acting like it's it's gloves

189:47

off time? Time to endlessly harass

189:49

someone because it was so was that it?"

189:52

It didn't It clearly didn't end his

189:54

career. Like it was just a [ __ ] video

189:58

of me expressing my grievances. Even

190:00

Ian's final blow was a da. The content

190:03

cop was meant to end with creator

190:05

psychology in Seattle receiving his A+

190:07

grade for one of Ethan's apology videos

190:09

that Ethan totes. Except Psychology in

190:11

Seattle does not do that. Okay, Idubbbz,

190:14

I hear you. You're in the room with me

190:17

right now. I hear you. I hear your

190:19

request. I understand it. I I can

190:22

understand where it's coming from. And I

190:26

I guess have a policy that when there is

190:28

a grade for an apology, I am just

190:31

grading that discrete apology as I see

190:35

it. Unfortunately, Kirk did not change

190:38

his grade. But that's okay because this

190:41

is the internet. I think something

190:43

that's very important to me in bringing

190:45

back Content Cop is to be fair. I think

190:48

that was something that was not

190:50

illustrated in previous content cops

190:52

that I think should have been. Ian, as

190:55

with previous Content Cops and the

190:56

Carton video, was inconsiderate. He

190:59

failed to provide Ethan's motivation in

191:01

that his children were targeted by who

191:02

he believes to be Kassan's community.

191:04

The main way Ian relates is not through

191:06

attempting to understand the gravity of

191:08

having children, but rather through his

191:10

own partner being attacked, which was

191:12

not at all the main issue with Ethan and

191:13

Nila. You know, I also see the dynamic

191:16

of Ethan and Nila. Like [ __ ] Like it's

191:19

really hard to be um a couple online and

191:22

see people attacking your partner and

191:24

it's like okay like if you come to their

191:27

defense

191:28

that doesn't always help them, right?

191:30

Sometimes that makes it worse for them.

191:32

You you're just this isn't that's not

191:34

even relevant to our relationship. Like

191:36

you're talking about yourself. You're

191:37

making it about yourself.

191:39

>> Ian's content cop was not received well

191:41

especially by those who finished it. Um,

191:44

dude, I don't even know what to say. I,

191:46

bro,

191:48

I know he's probably like watching

191:50

people's reactions, whatever, and and

191:51

like that. He probably I like I'm Guys,

191:54

I I really didn't want to be harsh on

191:56

the video off the rip. I didn't want to

191:57

be harsh. So, this likes I still give it

191:59

a shot. Okay. And this was like the most

192:02

nothing burger of all time. You can [ __ ]

192:05

equally on everybody in this video in a

192:08

manner that is the same as this or more

192:11

and make a better nuke than whatever the

192:13

[ __ ] this is. Every single top comment

192:15

is highly insulting towards Ian. Not in

192:17

a directly derisive way, but rather by

192:19

not engaging with the product at all. A

192:22

demonstration that is an insult to art.

192:24

A statement in how little people cared

192:26

about Ian's personal plight that would

192:27

also surely affect Creator Clash 3. And

192:30

the this the side narrative of this is

192:33

THE WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST THE MOST

192:36

controversial topic on the entire IN THE

192:39

ENTIRE WORLD. THE war in the Middle East

192:42

is the side narrative to this content

192:44

cop. These are the owners and the

192:46

[music] creators of creator clash that

192:49

decide to get into this conflict. Ian

192:51

had created a space where people had

192:53

given him multiple chances and sat

192:55

through his ramblings to understand his

192:57

perspective. Yet Ian had failed to

192:59

extend this same openness [music] to

193:01

criticism. And with 7 million people

193:03

exposed to who he was, this content cop

193:05

was providing detractors ammunition to

193:07

point out Ian's strong statements and

193:09

their contradictions.

193:10

>> Who else do we want to burn today?

193:12

>> Who else do we want to burn today?

193:14

You're making it so [ __ ] obvious that

193:16

this is your like this is your emotional

193:18

dumping ground. It's horrible.

193:20

>> It's called Street Podcast. It's always

193:22

been my emotional dumping ground. What

193:23

are you talking about? It's my show. I

193:24

can dump I take a dump on you. will take

193:26

a dump on anyone. By the way, give the

193:28

context of why we were angry and instead

193:30

said burning more people

193:31

>> what podcasts are. There was a way to

193:34

>> Are you the arbiter of what a podcast

193:35

is? Sorry, I'm pausing it too much. But

193:37

this claim is insane. I didn't know

193:38

that. Ian is the decider of what

193:40

podcasts are.

193:41

>> Mhm.

193:42

>> Oh, I defer to your expertise, sir. Uh,

193:44

with 3,000 episodes per 3,000 views per

193:48

episode, clearly you are in a class of

193:50

your own, sir. [laughter] Ha. Ethan,

193:53

alongside reacting to the Content Cop,

193:55

also made a video summarizing his

193:57

reaction where he revealed he was sent

193:59

two human skulls.

194:00

>> There's something that I've never talked

194:01

about publicly, but around the same

194:03

time, we received two human skulls in

194:06

the mail [music] at our home, which led

194:08

us that having a very pleasant interview

194:10

with the FBI.

194:12

>> Although Ethan fails to go into depth on

194:13

the human skulls in this video, these

194:15

skulls likely came from a website that

194:17

works to sell bones, presumably for

194:19

scientific study. On April 24th, Ana

194:22

attempted to advertise Creator Clash 3.

194:24

Virtually all the responses were more

194:26

interested in citing the failures of

194:27

Creator Clash 2 and the recently

194:29

released Content Cop. This was the

194:32

breaking point. On the 29th, Harley

194:34

announced he was leaving Crater Clash. A

194:36

strong blow considering how staunchly he

194:38

defended Ian and Ana in the past.

194:40

[music] Harley turned out to be just one

194:42

of many fighters who were dropping out

194:44

of the event, including fighters

194:45

strongly connected to the H3 podcast. In

194:48

May, Ian released a content deputy on

194:50

H3. He also announced that Nissan and

194:52

him were no longer going to be running

194:54

the event as someone else would be

194:56

taking on that responsibility. Soon

194:58

after, this Discord message of fighter

195:00

Freddy Wong putting forward his

195:02

frustrations from inside the event

195:03

leaked. quote, "In the wake of the new

195:06

announcement video detailing the change

195:07

in ownership structure of Creator Clash,

195:09

or to be more accurate, the brief

195:11

statement detailing changes in the

195:13

ownership of Creator Clash, followed by

195:14

20 minutes of continued relitigation of

195:17

what I'll charitably call quote unquote

195:19

internet nonsense. There remains some

195:21

lingering questions that I, as well as I

195:23

suspect other fighters would appreciate

195:25

clarity on," unquote. Freddy is asking

195:28

for communication to be a priority as

195:30

fighters were getting their information

195:31

at the same pace as Ian's viewers. He is

195:34

asking for something to be in place to

195:36

protect the reputation of creator clash

195:38

as Ian even detached from it is still

195:40

damaging the event and to that extent

195:42

the fighters who are only focused on the

195:43

charity and not the ongoing internet

195:45

nonsense. Freddy is also asking for a

195:48

timet to replace fighters that are

195:49

dropping out of the event, what the PR

195:51

strategy is and who is in charge of it

195:53

and how soon the website will update to

195:55

reflect the attending fighters. And now

195:57

I've realized like I can't really have

195:59

my cake and eat it too. It's either

196:02

you're going to talk [ __ ] like a foul

196:04

beast on the internet or you're going to

196:06

have a charity event. You know, it

196:08

really can't be both. I'm very proud of

196:09

the event that we made with Creator

196:11

Clash. It's still happening June 28th.

196:14

>> This event is not happening. [laughter]

196:17

>> I Well, that obviously I'm making a

196:19

prediction.

196:21

>> I don't think this event is happening. I

196:22

think this is going to go down as one of

196:24

the most monumental failures. On May

196:27

24th, it was leaked that Creator Clash

196:29

was being delayed to a date far into the

196:31

future. Then on May 29th, the Creator

196:34

Clash page was updated with a new

196:36

transparency FAQ page. Underneath the do

196:39

fighters get paid tab, it states, quote,

196:41

"A further 34% profit share originally

196:44

allocated to Ian and Ana is also being

196:46

redistributed among the fighters

196:48

following their departure."

196:51

Ian addresses this on Reddit, stating he

196:53

was too vague in his initial

196:54

explanation. In a later video, he would

196:57

state that this 34% would have been

196:59

donated. As for the Reddit post, Ian

197:02

states the event was for profit, not for

197:04

charity, and only the Tiltify that ran

197:06

alongside it guaranteed money for the

197:08

charities. The comments are mixed. Some

197:11

appreciating the clarification, others

197:13

are referencing Ian's poorly received

197:15

content cop. This same day, LA Beast

197:18

dropped from the event. And viewers

197:19

pieced together that Freddy Wong had

197:21

also dropped from the event as he was

197:23

absent from the Creator Clash roster. It

197:25

was also discovered that ticket sales

197:27

had halted and Ticket Master was stating

197:29

that the event had been cancelled. Yet

197:31

the following day, Aaron Hansen, the

197:33

owner of Real Good Touring, stated that

197:35

Ian had given their entire stake in

197:36

Crater Clash to them. As Ian and Ana had

197:39

detached themselves from the event, the

197:41

fighters can now safely error their

197:42

grievances and how the failure of the

197:44

previous event affected them.

197:46

>> It's for a good cause. It's for charity.

197:48

And then when you go and do it and no

197:50

money is raised for charity, that sucks.

197:53

>> Yeah. Yeah. I've been pretty candid with

197:55

you about this, Aaron, about like how

197:56

disappointed I was and how like burnt I

197:58

felt by it. Um, and I was talking to a

198:00

separate fighter who's not in the room

198:01

about this just yesterday. It was like

198:03

you you work so hard. I had a family

198:06

member who was in the hospital with

198:07

cancer at the time. And the thing that

198:09

like kept me going that stopped me from

198:10

quitting and just going to be with them

198:12

was I was like, "This is for charity.

198:14

You're raising money for charity. You're

198:15

raising money for a good cause. You got

198:17

to keep going." And it was so hard. Um

198:19

and then when I found out that we didn't

198:22

I think I cried like I was so

198:25

disappointed. Um sad. It was

198:27

>> Yeah, it's super sad.

198:28

>> Alana Piers corroborates that she like

198:30

Harley was not aware the event lost

198:32

money until Ian made it public. There

198:35

was just like some handling stuff that

198:36

like we didn't find out that it didn't

198:38

raise money for charity for a pretty

198:40

long time. Like I think that maybe I

198:43

don't really know maybe Ian and Isa were

198:45

like scared to tell us or something but

198:46

I didn't even find out through them. I

198:48

found out through one of the other

198:48

fighters and I was like what? I really

198:51

feel like I should have known this and

198:53

so I yeah I felt pretty bummed.

198:54

>> The fighters were not the only ones

198:56

speaking out. Ian's coach, Michael

198:58

Briggs, and his wife, Kate Yang Briggs,

199:00

as shown several times throughout this

199:02

video, had much to say about Ian. Very

199:04

little of it complimentary.

199:06

>> And so, I was super psyched that this is

199:08

going to be a way for me to help build

199:10

my husband's brand and also um put the

199:12

work out there, but it never came

199:14

through. And so when he most recently

199:16

put that video out saying that he told a

199:18

big lie and [music] he was never going

199:20

to put out a documentary and all he has

199:22

is a ton of 4K videos of him doing

199:25

stupid [ __ ] or something like that. It

199:27

was actually very hurtful to me.

199:28

>> That's your footage that you talking

199:31

about your footage.

199:33

>> Three years. Yeah.

199:35

>> Wow.

199:35

>> Uh one of the people they flew in was

199:37

Froggy Tonic and they flew him in from

199:39

France.

199:40

>> That's insane. And Froggy had told us

199:43

that he was there to salvage the

199:46

documentary and that was super offensive

199:48

to us.

199:48

>> And that's when Froggy Tony told me that

199:50

Yeah. Ian and Isa brought out his whole

199:53

crew from France.

199:54

>> His whole crew.

199:56

>> I think it was just him.

199:57

>> Well, he had a few people that were

199:58

holding the cameras, his camera guys.

200:01

Because the interesting thing was that

200:02

usually when like someone is a

200:03

videographer, they would be the one

200:05

filming most of the time, but it was

200:06

interesting to me that like

200:08

>> he was just directing.

200:10

>> Yeah, he was more directing. Oh, this

200:11

[ __ ] thick guy thinks he's Spielberg.

200:13

>> Froggy Tonic, the first domino to the

200:15

failure of Critter Clash 3, was not only

200:17

flown out but also invited to the gala.

200:20

While most attendees dressed for the

200:22

occasion, Froggy was not most people.

200:24

[music] Since you mentioned the Getty,

200:26

he that they flew the Getty images in,

200:28

the only one I've seen is this guy. This

200:31

is Froggy Tonic.

200:32

>> Froggy,

200:33

>> and he showed up here. I think I think

200:35

he mistook the event for um

200:37

>> Froggy never did anything wrong

200:40

>> for some kind of communist uh gathering.

200:42

>> Did you guys see him there at the gala?

200:44

>> I didn't see him there.

200:45

>> Isn't it so insane to wear that outfit

200:48

and not be seen?

200:50

>> Yeah.

200:51

>> Isn't that unbelievable? Like you did

200:54

all that and no one I I too did not

200:57

remember seeing that person. One of the

200:59

reasons Michael Briggs was on the

201:00

podcast was to clear his name. So, first

201:03

of all, Ian never even reached out to me

201:04

at all for through create for creative

201:06

three. That's one of the big things I

201:08

want from this is to like uh because

201:10

what happens when Ian messes with you or

201:12

messes with these other people, a lot of

201:14

it comes back onto me and my either my

201:16

YouTube channel or my Instagram where

201:19

people start putting a bunch of comments

201:20

on my stuff. It's probably happening to

201:22

Harley. It happens to everybody that's

201:24

related to it.

201:24

>> Michael also spoke about the training,

201:26

who he was training, and Ian's poor

201:28

hygiene.

201:29

>> How are you sick of boxing? like he

201:30

obviously hate boxing. So yeah, [snorts]

201:33

so it was hard for me as a coach to just

201:35

get him to train. Um, also like half of

201:38

the sessions we'd have to train Ana. So

201:41

every session instead of being just

201:43

training for Ian for a fight, I would

201:45

have to take half of the session and

201:47

train Ana.

201:47

>> So whose idea was that?

201:49

>> Hers. Hers.

201:51

>> Yeah.

201:52

>> I told I'd even But but the thing about

201:54

it is Ian has Ian goes along with it,

201:57

right? Cuz I feel like if Ian would have

201:59

said, "Hey, no, I need the time to

202:01

train." It might have been different.

202:02

But he's just like, "Oh, no. She needs

202:04

to train before I train."

202:06

>> But she didn't even fight. She wasn't

202:08

even fighting.

202:08

>> I don't want to just talk [ __ ] about

202:10

him, but like there would be times, for

202:11

example, before the first event where he

202:14

was talking about getting tonsil stones

202:16

and he was saying he was going to get

202:18

strep throat cuz he had tonsil stones.

202:20

And I said, "Ian,

202:22

>> tonsil stones don't cause uh strep

202:24

throat. Tonsil stones are cuz you're not

202:25

brushing your [ __ ] teeth. Hard for me

202:27

to want the best for him when he didn't

202:29

want to train.

202:30

>> Now, do you have any commentary about

202:32

his potential body odor?

202:34

[laughter] I

202:35

>> mean, I say it's true. I smell all the

202:37

time. It's horrible. A good example is

202:39

this cuz Michael's so nice and he

202:40

doesn't want to say it. But here's the

202:41

thing. When we're in fight camp, he does

202:43

2 hours in the morning and 2 hours in

202:44

the evening. Okay.

202:45

>> For the first fight, he did, he cut out

202:46

his two days. And that was the most

202:48

important time to be doing two days.

202:49

>> Yes. So he would smell so bad that when

202:52

he comes back in the afternoon to train,

202:54

he doesn't shower in between his

202:55

sessions. And so like the coaches that

202:57

are training other, you know, members

202:59

there would just like look at us with

203:01

the weirdest face, you know, like a

203:02

stink face. And then Michael would try

203:04

to take Ian to the corner where there's

203:06

not a lot of members of the gym so they

203:07

don't have to smell it.

203:08

>> I try to take him to the open door.

203:10

>> Yeah. So that does happen. I'm not

203:11

lying. It's true. He doesn't shower. The

203:13

reason why they moved away from LA was

203:15

because she had all these friends that

203:17

wanted to use Ian and just take from

203:19

him.

203:20

>> Oh my god, she's she is so doing

203:22

textbook isolating him.

203:24

>> Yeah, she's isolating him. And literally

203:26

besides me and Michael and the gym, he

203:28

doesn't have any friends.

203:29

>> Wait, this is actually really sad.

203:31

>> Has no friends as well. It's ridiculous.

203:33

>> That's why I would feel bad for him.

203:34

>> I want to say here that I, the

203:36

capitalist, will once again be ponying

203:39

up for the right cause. It is not right

203:41

that he stiffed you guys. I'm going to

203:44

be sending you guys $5,000 for the bonus

203:47

that you never got.

203:49

>> Oh my god.

203:50

>> Because he should have he should have

203:51

never [ __ ] you guys.

203:54

>> That's insane.

203:55

>> In one of the last segments of the

203:56

podcast, Kate Yang Briggs speaks of

203:59

reaching out to Ian and Ana to amplify

204:01

his support for a bill against child

204:03

marriage, but was promptly ignored. This

204:05

matters to her more than the average

204:07

citizen because she was a child bride

204:09

who sold into marriage for $6,000 to an

204:12

abusive husband.

204:13

>> Protect children like, you know, me and

204:14

and survivors like me. Um, the bill in

204:17

California was actually trashed um uh

204:19

the day before it was supposed to go

204:20

down.

204:21

>> Are you saying in California you can get

204:23

married at any age

204:24

>> with parental consent?

204:26

>> Yep. So, uh

204:28

>> I did not know that. I did not know

204:29

that.

204:30

>> On July 7th, Crater Clash 3 was

204:32

officially cancelled. Fighters continued

204:34

to speak out against Ian and Ana and the

204:36

permanent damage they thought they

204:38

received for the sake of charity. Well,

204:41

this is a video I didn't want to make,

204:43

but here we are. You didn't know Creator

204:47

Clash 3 is cancelled.

204:50

It's completely over. It's done. It's

204:53

not happening. I don't know if it's from

204:55

the boxing, but it happened one night

204:57

when I had a very hard sparring session.

205:00

And when I turn my head now, I see

205:01

bright flashes on the side and left of

205:03

my head. I'm seeing them right now. The

205:05

following day on Twitter, Ana tweeted,

205:07

quote, "Okay, I'm just going to come out

205:09

and clear something up. Ian won't be

205:11

happy I'm doing this, but I think we

205:12

need more transparency. Ticket sales

205:14

were abysmal before the content cop.

205:16

Promotion wasn't going how we had hoped.

205:19

Charity wasn't getting the numbers we

205:20

wanted." unquote. While Ana spoke of her

205:23

and Ian's possible detachment from this

205:25

year's event, fighters were speaking of

205:27

Creator Clash 2 and 3's failures. Hondur

205:30

on Twitter stated, quote, "My bicep does

205:32

work, even if it looks mangled. Thanks."

205:35

My take is that every time I look at it,

205:37

I remember that the charity that I

205:39

repped received no money and that my

205:41

year without the full use of my arm

205:43

benefited no one, and that same team had

205:45

the gall to make CC3 even worse."

205:48

unquote. Chris Reagan tweeted, quote,

205:50

"Sad, but not surprising. My heart goes

205:53

out to the fighters." The first event

205:55

really was a special thing. I wouldn't

205:57

have signed up for the second one if I

205:58

didn't firmly believe that. The second

206:00

one is when it started to fall apart,

206:02

very poorly managed, and three is just a

206:05

shitow."

206:07

Nathan Barnett in a deleted video would

206:09

state that Idubbbz blocked him, Harley,

206:11

and AB, which were fighters in Creator

206:13

Clash. Idubbbz had virtually no friends

206:15

or allies remaining. It had gotten to

206:17

the point that even Boogie 298 was more

206:20

like than him.

206:21

>> This man has made every mistake there is

206:24

and he is destitute. He's lost it all.

206:27

>> Majority [laughter]

206:30

highbrow over here.

206:31

>> It's a comedy of heirs.

206:32

>> Uh yeah. Okay. Yeah, fair.

206:34

>> It's a comedy. It's a tragic comedy.

206:36

>> It resembles that. Yeah.

206:37

>> Ian had lost his channel viewership post

206:40

Content Cop was falling. He had only

206:42

been losing hundreds of thousands of

206:44

subscribers for the last 2 years. Oh my

206:46

god.

206:52

>> Let me go back.

206:53

>> No, you don't have to.

206:55

>> No, no, this is important.

206:56

>> Where Ian could have existed more

206:58

passively on Twitch, he was not that

207:00

sort of person. If anything survived

207:02

within him, it was his stubborn nature.

207:04

He needed to punch back because he is a

207:06

LOL cow.

207:07

>> I I think I think people will be happy

207:09

because I'm I'm working on a video that

207:11

does

207:13

uh I don't know. I think it speaks a

207:15

little bit to the people who want to see

207:17

me kind of, I don't know, stick up for

207:20

myself a little bit more and be a little

207:22

bit more [ __ ]

207:23

uh violent.

207:26

>> This video released September 9th, and

207:28

like everything Ian had done in the past

207:30

6 years, it was not at all wellreceived.

207:32

Today, I'm going to be doing the thing

207:34

that everyone tells you not to do, and

207:37

that [music] is feed the trolls. One of

207:39

the more important things that I want to

207:41

talk about is my relationship with Ana.

207:43

I thought more people would be able to

207:44

catch on. I am quiet, stoic, not

207:47

talkative. She is the opposite of that.

207:49

She is loud, very talkative, social.

207:52

We've been together for nearly 10 years,

207:54

and all of it has been online for the

207:56

public to see. And there are still

207:58

people accusing her of cheating,

207:59

accusing me of being in [music] an

208:01

abusive relationship. None of this is

208:03

true and there is no evidence for any of

208:05

this except like I guess body language

208:08

experts coming on and being like Idubbbz

208:10

is being stoic here therefore he's in

208:13

hell.

208:13

>> Okay, hang on. Hang on. Watch the change

208:15

there. Watch the changes.

208:17

>> The I don't know what the [ __ ] that was.

208:19

I have never gotten

208:21

>> Look at Ian in this moment. Oh my god.

208:24

>> Like he looks sad. He is disgusted at

208:27

her. He's depressed. He's so disgusted.

208:30

He looks disgusted with this.

208:32

>> He looks so uncomfortable. He's like,

208:34

"Should I be here?" He looks so

208:35

uncomfortable. Look at this guy's body

208:37

language. He doesn't want to be there.

208:39

>> Look how miserable he looks. Dude, he

208:41

looks miserable, dude. He looks like he

208:43

wants to kill himself.

208:45

>> And And even when I smile, you guys

208:48

still like contort it into he's so

208:51

uncomfortable or he's smiling THROUGH

208:53

THE PAIN.

208:55

OH, HE'S so he's smiling on his face,

208:59

>> but inside his eyes, you can see his

209:01

pain.

209:02

>> And if you listen to freaks like this

209:04

guy I'm about to show, it makes sense

209:06

why they are obsessed. Ana wants to have

209:10

sex into having sex with Ana. I think he

209:12

wants to bang Ana. Ana was horny and

209:15

wanted to have sex with [laughter]

209:18

this therapist. Well, Ana herself to it.

209:21

>> Yep. Do you think that makes her [ __ ]

209:23

wet?

209:24

>> But she's getting clown.

209:26

>> That's what I'm saying.

209:28

>> What we're describing here is two grown

209:31

men who are fantasizing about a stranger

209:35

and his wife and what they do in the

209:37

bedroom or don't do in the bedroom. That

209:40

is creepy weirdo [ __ ] And here we have

209:44

Idubbbz with THE BULL, FOLKS. THERE'S

209:47

[screaming] IDUBBBZ WITH THE BULL.

209:49

>> For some reason, this stupid [ __ ]

209:53

loser and his dumb as rocks wife decided

209:56

to go on the H3 podcast. They already

209:59

spilled their guts. They were getting

210:00

paid like $5,000 to go go on this

210:03

podcast. Michael Briggs and his wife

210:05

were not paid to go on to the podcast.

210:07

Rather, Ethan surprised them with that

210:09

money. Following this video, Ian went

210:11

live on Twitch attempting to address his

210:13

detractors, including the testimony of

210:15

Michael Briggs. that would be clipped

210:17

for moments like these.

210:18

>> We live in a small two-bedroom, two bath

210:20

apartment, and I had to go buy extra

210:22

tables and chairs. So, there would be

210:23

room for me, Michael, my two sons, and

210:26

my friend, and Ian and Isa to sit. And

210:28

we went out of our way to do all this

210:29

for them. And they just treat us like

210:31

we're just I don't know, gone with the

210:33

wind.

210:34

>> Yeah.

210:37

>> I'm glad you guys are are seeing it. It

210:41

actually feels like I don't have to say

210:42

much here. Like, yes, we were being

210:45

nice. We went over to my coaches and his

210:47

wife's Thanksgiving. It was the one time

210:50

where we said, "Okay, we'll [ __ ]

210:53

we'll do a little extra. We'll do more

210:55

than just show up to the training." Ian

210:57

was now covering the people that enjoyed

210:58

bullying him and watching his life

211:00

spiral out of control. The contempt for

211:02

him had encouraged this audience to be

211:04

built. I briefly want to talk about the

211:06

concept of being a lull cow because

211:09

these [ __ ] losers, they love the

211:12

concept of like labeling someone a lull

211:15

cow and then like bullying them and

211:17

watching their life spiral out of

211:18

control. They won't, you know, say as

211:21

much. They'll just be like, "Yeah, we

211:22

just do it for laughs. The whole thing's

211:24

entertainment. It's just a, you know,

211:26

just innocent guys just having a laugh."

211:28

So, now I want to look at two different

211:30

clips from these guys. There is the fat

211:33

one and his cohort who are listening to

211:36

Ana describe like essentially having a

211:38

hard time online seeing people mock and

211:42

make fun of her dad with Alzheimer's.

211:45

>> They were laughing at my dad for getting

211:46

sick on some of these forums like

211:50

>> what did you think would because you

211:51

shared it online.

211:52

>> Yeah.

211:53

>> I mean like that's what people are going

211:55

to do because they want to get a

211:56

reaction out of you.

211:58

>> Yeah. I don't think they probably even

212:00

really believe the stuff that they're

212:01

saying, but they know because it's

212:04

extreme and like edgy that it will cause

212:07

you mentally spiral like this. So that's

212:10

why they do it and you're telling them

212:12

that it affects you. So guess what?

212:14

They're going to keep doing it. This is

212:16

how the internet works. It it shouldn't

212:19

be, but that's how it is. The whole time

212:22

he is not saying that he is a

212:24

perpetrator of bullying her. What he's

212:26

saying is that other people are doing

212:28

that, but he is doing it actively. In

212:32

this video, he is bullying Ana. And in

212:35

other videos, he's literally bullied and

212:37

made fun of her dad who has Alzheimer's

212:40

with a latestage dementia patient who is

212:44

a extremist Muslim and he sees his

212:47

daughter covered in tattoos married to

212:50

Idubbbz the [ __ ] It's plain as day that

212:53

he's part of the problem, but he [ __ ]

212:55

refuses, like a coward does, to take any

212:58

responsibility for him being part of the

213:00

problem. Ian had not just become a local

213:03

cow, he had transitioned entirely to the

213:05

other end of the continent cop. He was

213:07

now pointing out that the jesters known

213:09

as the Kino Casino critique, but also

213:11

dance. This was a victory for the

213:14

casino. They had successfully lampuned

213:16

and trapped a whale, and they were

213:18

celebrating. [screaming]

213:24

YEAH,

213:29

[laughter]

213:30

>> look at this [ __ ]

213:32

>> Celebrate

213:33

good times. Come on.

213:35

>> Oh my god. [laughter]

213:36

>> Look how happy they are.

213:38

>> Look how happy they are.

213:40

>> They're really happy all the time. But

213:42

this one, you're right. We're very, very

213:44

>> exceptionally happy. I love it. I love

213:47

THIS [ __ ] THE GUY'S dressed up as the

213:50

colonel and the other guy's a [ __ ]

213:53

fried chicken. That fried chicken

213:55

costume is actually really underrated.

213:57

It's so [laughter] funny. Holy [ __ ]

214:00

dude. The cap on your [ __ ] head.

214:03

>> It's [laughter] so surreal. So,

214:05

>> one is fried chicken and the other is

214:07

Colonel Sander. [laughter]

214:13

[crying]

214:14

>> Why are [laughter] you taking these guys

214:16

serious? Well, dude, it's backfired cuz

214:18

I love these guys.

214:21

[screaming]

214:23

>> The VOD of the Kino Casino responding to

214:25

Idubbbz is the most viewed video on

214:27

their channel. It is here that they

214:29

would spend 2 hours picking it apart.

214:32

There's no [ __ ] reason in the world

214:34

why we should actually be featured on

214:37

the H3 podcast. Like in all s like we

214:40

are like the lowest sector sewer

214:42

dwelling demeanor

214:46

IS GOOD.

214:46

>> LOOK SAD.

214:47

>> LOOK SAD.

214:48

>> WHY WOULDN'T I SAY?

214:49

>> THE GUY'S TRYING TO COPE AND BE LIKE I'M

214:52

NOT SAD. I'M STOIC. [ __ ] you can't cry

214:56

on camera multiple times because you're

214:59

getting cyberbullied

215:01

and claim to be a stoic badass. He has 7

215:05

million subscribers and routinely gets

215:07

hundreds of thousands if not millions of

215:09

views on his main channel.

215:12

>> Why are you addressing us? You just blew

215:14

us up way bigger. I mean, I'll be real.

215:16

We couldn't buy the publicity that he

215:18

just gave us. I can't believe what he

215:20

did.

215:21

>> Thinking in any way, thinking in any way

215:24

that there's a single viewer of Kino

215:26

Casino who's going to watch that video

215:28

and go, "Oh man, I didn't know Ashton

215:31

talked like that." [laughter]

215:33

People always compare Joi, you know,

215:35

leaving Filthy Frank behind to Idubbbz

215:38

leaving, you know, the content cop

215:41

behind.

215:42

>> The difference was that Joji didn't

215:44

perform humiliation rituals on himself

215:46

and his audience. He didn't shame people

215:49

for enjoying the content he made. He

215:51

didn't whip himself through the streets

215:53

for making the content that he made. He

215:56

didn't. He just moved on. And if Idubbbz

215:59

had just moved on, made whatever he

216:02

wanted to make, his fans would have come

216:05

with him, at least a certain contingent

216:07

of it. What would have gotten Ian out of

216:10

this rut was a new audience achieved by

216:12

succeeding in a new direction. There was

216:14

potential with his documentary series,

216:16

but this fell apart after his Sam Hyde

216:18

documentary. He could have been known as

216:20

a creator running the world's largest

216:22

boxing charity event, but he mismanaged

216:24

it to the point that even the fighters

216:26

and his former coach now dislike him. In

216:28

September, there was even a second H3

216:30

stream with Michael Briggs.

216:32

>> He's not a good person. He's really

216:34

evil. So, that's the reason why we came

216:35

forward with the information we had

216:37

because Ian needed to know that he

216:39

cannot continue this way forever.

216:41

Someone's going to hold him accountable.

216:42

>> Idubbbz was once one of the most

216:43

prolific creators on YouTube. For better

216:45

and for worse, he made videos that

216:48

served as a passion of shame for the

216:49

shameless. These were fast-paced and

216:52

captivating, and within them was the

216:53

message to remain inspired, creative,

216:56

and consistent. But when the time came

216:58

to change and improve, he only devolved.

217:00

Instead of carrying his inspiration and

217:02

critical attitudes to his newest

217:04

projects, he turned that hatred inward,

217:06

then outward, to anyone that shared in

217:08

his older qualities. There were always

217:10

segments of his audience that hated and

217:12

loved Ian for his superficial qualities

217:14

and an image of him that never matched

217:16

his true intent. As is the consequence

217:18

of being an artist. Instead of painting,

217:20

he has now joined the rings of the

217:22

uninspired as if it was his ability to

217:24

think critically that brought harm. He

217:26

is now incurious and spiteful. [music]

217:28

He has lost the ability to dream, think,

217:30

and do. This is the core reason why Ian

217:33

has fallen and is widely disliked as he

217:35

is the inverse of what he once [music]

217:37

was. He chases a superficial glowing

217:39

reputation while attempting to mask the

217:41

rot within. [music]

217:42

And there is only one market that enjoys

217:44

celebrating failures. In this way, Ian's

217:47

story is about a jester that became lost

217:50

only to find himself as the butt of the

217:52

joke.

Interactive Summary

This video chronicles the evolution and eventual decline of YouTube content creator Ian J, also known as Idubbbz. Initially celebrated for his "Content Cop" series, which critiqued other YouTubers, Idubbbz began his career by playing indie games and gradually shifted towards commentary. His "Content Cop" videos, particularly those targeting reaction channels and controversial figures like Leafy and Keemstar, gained significant traction. However, as his fame grew, his content became less impactful, and his personal life, particularly his relationship with Ana, began to overshadow his work. The video details his struggles with content creation, the fallout from his controversial statements and actions, the failures of his Creator Clash boxing events, and his eventual transition into a more passive and less engaging content style. Ultimately, the video suggests that Idubbbz lost his creative edge and ability to connect with his audience, becoming a shell of his former self, a "jester lost to the joke."

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