From Legend to Lolcow - The Rise & Fall of idubbbz
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Ian Jamba, better known on the internet
as Idubs, was a creator celebrated for
his creativity, effortless humor, and
critical commentary. In virtually every
aspect, he was a modern-day core jester.
He made strong arguments for why shame
is necessary. But he also danced.
Whether this meant reviewing pickles in
a storm drain or unboxing a single cup
of ramen, Ian proved to millions he
could entertain, push boundaries, and
evolve. It was late 2015 that Ian
premiered Content Cop, a staple of
YouTube commentary that brought light to
shameless creators and their uninspired
content. Yet, as Ian's plans became
grander, there was a felt loss of
momentum. Perception definitively
changed when his wife announced her only
fans and Ian felt himself being the
target of shame. This created a divide
between him and his audience that has
progressively widened inexplicably and
across the board. Ian was less
expressive both in the physical and
artistic sense. Furthermore, his new
projects have backfired spectacularly.
From mismanaging a charity boxing event
to the point that it lost money to only
popularizing his opponents in attempts
[music] to suppress them, Idubbbz is now
seen in a far worse light. And though
there are hundreds of videos speculating
on the matter, few provide a
satisfactory answer. This is why this
video aims to explore the story of an
ambitious advocate for creativity who
has lost everything that has made him
successful. This is why it is best to
start at the beginning.
The jobs of a court jester, artificial
fool or joker were historically jobs to
entertain. They could criticize the
court, its noblemen or the king. The
jester could dance, but it could also
deliver scathing critique in a way no
one else could or would dare to. Ian was
not born into the profession of jester.
First, he was a common man. In the early
2010s, Ian Washburn had a desire to
start a let's play channel. It was a
genre that was just hitting its peak of
popularity. To do this, he chose the
name Idubbbz. The I stood for Ian. Dub,
which is slang for victory, was derived
from the first syllable of the letter W.
In this convoluted way, his channel name
was both representative of his initials
and also directly meant I win. But there
was an issue. Idubbbz with a single B
was already taken. So he added another
B. But even still, the username was
taken. Finally, he tried Idubbbz with
three B's and acquired his first channel
name. Ian also made IDUBs too, likely
for non-game related videos.
>> [snorts]
>> Ian on the channel Idubbbz played games
that were highly popular at the time
from Amnesia: The Dark Descent to
Minecraft and perhaps also recorded a
video about Anime Expo. Ian did well to
blend into the background of this genre.
Naturally, this was an issue. There were
already hundreds, if not thousands, of
creators playing these games and even
their modified variants. By late 2012,
Ian had gained a greater understanding
of what it means to stand out. In
playing less popular indie games, Ian
did not have to compete with his far
more popular contemporaries. You use the
power cell from your plasma gun to power
up the jump port.
All right, it looks like it's in order.
Let's go.
In focusing on lesserknown games, he
could capture an audience in a space
that saw little competition. This is why
Ian found growth in playing Overgrowth,
a modifiable combat-driven game that as
popularity for the game grew, Ian's
channel grew with it. One of the easiest
ways to learn about new mods before
trying them is through YouTube. For
example, the Idubbbz TV channel has more
than 150 let's play videos showing off
different mods and custom levels. Though
Idubbbz TV was meant to be one of Ian's
many alternative channels, it soon
became the main one as the original
Idubbbz had lost its monetization.
>> First channel was demonetized cuz I was
watching my own ads. Not actually
>> what? Not not actually. [laughter]
Uh, but they they they were a little sus
on the channel, so they suspended the
account, so I needed to make a new one.
>> Ian in 2013 on Idubbbz TV continued to
focus on Overgrowth and indie horror
games, but he still did not lose the
most important piece of what was making
his channel special. It was his drive to
experiment. This is likely one of the
reasons he uploaded Slender Gangdom
Mode.
While Idubbbz could have continued to
make safe overgrowth videos and perhaps
transitioned into comfortable coverage
of new indie games, instead he started
covering gaming news for no other reason
than to satisfy his desire to be
creative. Hey guys, welcome to my new
show. I decided I want to start this new
series so that I could express my
creativity in new and interesting ways.
And I figured if I start a new show,
then it probably won't stay a new show.
So, I could do other things, too. I
don't know. We're just going to see
where it takes us.
>> Ian, with a newfound confidence, was
finding out quickly that people liked
watching him. Meaning that as he
continued to place himself in different
genres, his viewers would stick around
for his personality and observations.
Not because of a trend, but because of
the critical perspective Ian was
beginning to embody. It was likely with
this realization that Ian brought this
side out of him more and more. So, I've
seen a lot of people contributing to
some pretty bad Kickstarters. I feel
like the main problem with supporting um
pretty much anyone on Kickstarter is
that I can go on Kickstarter and give
you an idea for a game and maybe do a
little bit of work on it and just be
like, "Yeah, I need some help making
this game. It's going to be it's going
to have all the awesomeness of Fallout
3, the open world of Just Cause 2, and
all the guns of Borderlands, and also a
ton of boobs. Like, that's what I'm
going to make.
>> Ian through this news video started to
give his audience the tools to be
skeptic and critical, to question the
reality of situations. In relation to
Kickstarter, he was questioning how
inexperienced Zilla developers could
claim to surpass even the most beloved
franchises. as if the only barrier was
money. In the majority of cases, the
developer speaks not of creativity, but
ego. And on Kickstarter, some projects
were being rewarded for their
unsubstantiated promises rather than
proven ability. In a way, they could
divert funding from true, well-meaning
creatives. This injustice and ego was
the enemy of Idubbbz, and his weapon was
comedy and shame. [laughter]
>> Most of you all know me as Texas.
[gasps] Holy [ __ ] [laughter]
Texas? Really? Texas?
Most people know you as Texas?
What? Who's most people?
>> Most of you all know me as Texas.
>> Oh, okay. Well, fair enough. Let's go
ahead and uh keep watching the video.
Kickstarter crap. In this series, Ian
honed in on poorly conceived Kickstarter
projects, often giving an overview of
how the creator views or advertises the
project to them pitting their
perspective against the reality of what
the project actually is.
>> We're trying to make the first game
that's designed by the players for the
players.
>> All right, guys. So, having fully looked
at this Kickstarter project, I can tell
you for a fact that they want to make a
very cookie cutter MMO RPG by May 2014.
The Kickstarter crap series consistently
outperformed any of Ian's let's plays.
It helped that he broadened the range of
topics to criticize not only successful
Kickstarters, but also Kickstarters that
were not exclusively related to gaming.
And though he did continue to post let's
plays, his new series were not at all
directly related to gaming. Hey
everybody and welcome back. Today I'm
going to be doing my first unboxing
video. It might also be my last unboxing
video, but I felt like I needed to do
this because right now there's a lot of
unboxing videos on YouTube. A lot of
people opening up loot crates, junk
boxes,
stuff cubes, and a bunch of [ __ ] like
that that really is is, you know, quite
honestly just a bunch of leftover [ __ ]
from uh from a bargain bin at Big Lots.
Okay, so I'm here to break the mold and
uh I expressed my concern on Twitter and
uh luckily enough toothbrush
subscriptions uh.com reached out to me.
So they sent me a package. It uh it's
Idubbbz deliberately selected the most
mundane item, which proved the point
that regardless of genre, any video
could be interesting. In this video, Ian
quote unquote tests the toothbrushes by
bending or breaking them. He also
inexplicably spits on his lap after
rinsing his mouth with water. A small,
possibly unintended detail is a Bugs
Bunny themed glass. Bugs Bunny is a
character known for being a cunning
chaotic trickster. In this way, Ian and
Bugs were one and the same. In 2014
alone, items made various unboxing
videos on a self-sealing bicycle tube,
two graphics cards and a CPU, a
motherboard, cups of fruit, and of
course, a simple bowl of noodles. Ian
opened 2015 by reviewing a pack of
pencils that went as expected.
As most of you guys are aware, I am an
avid kung fu enthusiast. I can break
blocks of wood. I could break cylinder
blocks. You name it, I can break it.
Oh, [ __ ] Oh, that hurt. Okay, guys. Now
we are going to burn the erasers in the
in the flames of hell.
So long, suckers. The top comment reads,
quote, "Only items would make unboxing a
pack of pencils for 7 minutes
interesting."
As was with the gaming videos, Idubbbz
could comfortably settle into making
unboxing videos or Kickstarter crap. He
could have made a career juggling, but
to ascend to Jester, one must master
critique. I I definitely didn't want
people to like um I don't know if it's
like a chip on my shoulder or whatever,
but I didn't want people to say that I'm
like a one pony or whatever. So,
>> I don't know. I felt like, you know, if
I in some ways like got ahead of it and
like did different things, interesting
things, I you know, I would feel good
about myself and where I was headed.
>> Ian had made a series critical of
Kickstarters. He made parody unboxing
videos that became their own series as
he started accepting fan mail. These
were both statements against the
formulaic. Even if a series by its
nature is predictable, Ian had the
ability to make videos memorable, even
if just by including cutaways that were
less than a second long. It's David
Fincher, baby. Here's the first movie
that we're going to look at. It stars
three pets who escape a ranch to find
their owners in San Francisco. This is
what Idubbbz was. He was a creative that
perhaps put his own creativity and
entertainment first. He was not one to
boast or self agrandise. This is perhaps
why Jinx irked him so much as he was a
direct opposite of Ian. Cuz let's be
honest, [laughter]
some of us make those videos a lot
better.
>> Jinx was a reaction channel that in late
2015 was averaging 50 million views a
month solely by reacting to videos.
These were not reactions in the sense of
deconstructing a video or transforming
the work by being critical of it. These
were reactions to popular videos often
played in their entirety with little to
no additive commentary. YouTube promoted
these channels so heavily that they
could compete with the author's original
work. Creators were none too pleased to
have to compete with bastardized
renditions of their videos. Yo, Jinx,
that was a dope ass video, man. That was
just hella tight. I really like the part
where you played my video in its
entirety and then didn't really react to
it. just kind of sat there. I also like
the part where you added virtually no
insight. You just kind of rambled on for
about 5 minutes and missed the point
entirely. Pretty brilliant how you play
the entire video in your channel. It's
like it's a one-stop shop. Why bother
going to my channel to watch that video
when you can just watch that and your
reaction?
>> Though creators did push back at this
trend, even at their crudest, they
failed to effectively shame the genre,
but not Idubbbz. One of the biggest
reaction channels or the biggest
reaction channel right now is called
Jinx. He has 800,000 subscribers on his
main channel and it's eerily similar to
the Potato Salad Kickstarter project. I
say this because the Potato Salad
Kickstarter project was garbage. It
garnered a lot of attention, a lot of
money. It took zero effort. And on top
of that, it spawned a whole [ __ ] ton of
copycats that are doing the same [ __ ]
thing.
>> YUM. [screaming]
>> WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS? I HAVE A WIFE AND
FAMILY.
PAIN.
>> If you didn't guess it by now, reaction
channels make reaction videos to other
reaction channels reacting to their
videos. Yes, it's a golden ratio of
retardation. Ian explained why these
creators were worthy of criticism. In
the same video, he also reasons why his
scaling remarks could not be matched by
those he criticizes.
Ian also argues for the necessity of
shame. I edit my videos. I put time into
my videos. And at the end of the day, my
burns are going to be sicker than yours.
So, I would recommend that the most you
do is continue doing what you do best,
and that is having no talent and making
shitty videos. A reaction channel is
very similar to a young, busty,
attractive female. They've been waited
on hand and foot their whole lives.
Everyone gives them compliments. No one
criticizes them. They buy them free
drinks at the bar. But eventually,
because there is some order to the
world, some bitter old hag needs to come
by who doesn't give two [ __ ] about this
stupid bimbo. And she needs to tell the
stupid bimbo, "You have no talent, you
have no skills, and your attitude is
extremely shitty.
Hey there folks, I'm the Content Cop.
I'm here to make sure everyone's content
is up to par, and if it's not, I'm I'll
bring them to justice." On December
13th, 2015, Content [music] Cop Busting
Jinx Reload released. The video opens
with a small whimsical skit before
transitioning to Ian's typical filming
location. The first introduction of Jinx
in this video is not centered around the
content, but rather the character and
ego of Jinx.
Look at this smug piece of [ __ ] just
sits on his bed eating a bag of Cheetos
as his intro. Oh, hell yeah, dude.
Reminds me of that [ __ ] who ate a
bowl of cereal for a million subs.
>> So, what I mean by scope out your
competition is basically check out their
channel, see what they do or how they do
things. Now, what I did was set my goal
to outdo everything they did. You
>> sound like a [ __ ] legend, Jinx. Your
goal was to outdo everything the other
reaction channels were doing. In the
second half of the content cop, Ian goes
through select videos Jinx published
that do not rely on the content he's
reacting to, but rather his creative
ability.
>> You got to eat, sleep, [ __ ] YouTube.
You got to suck [ __ ] [ __ ] YouTube.
Oh, this is so motivational. Holy [ __ ]
Oh, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do
it right now. I'm going to sit on my
bed. I'm going to sit on the end of my
bed. Going to set up the camera and I'm
going to watch some [ __ ] videos. [ __ ]
editing. The content cop was a tool to
shame, to correct, and above all else
entertain. The content cop is a
modern-day court gesture. Where a more
competent creator may have created an
equally devastating retort, the lesser
creatives with an inflated ego
inherently did not have the ability to
do so. The content cop videos often
attack dominant creators in their
genres. Many of the criticisms Ian laid
were applicable not only to reaction
channels, but were also lessons in
content creation and evaluation of ego.
Being that this was Ian's first content
cop, it hardly did anything to initially
move the needle in how reaction channels
were perceived. It would take several
months for it to even break a million
views. There was some refinement to be
had as Ian was still figuring out what
he wanted a series to be. At first, it
appeared he wanted it to be a series as
frequently uploaded as a bad unboxing or
Kickstarter crap. As a content cop, I
got a meat quota for the month, just
like any cop does. And this means that I
can't put all my time, energy, and
resources into making a big bust like
Jinx. All right? So, every now and
again, I'll be looking at some projects
like I'm going to be looking at today
that aren't necessarily, you know,
felony charges. They're probably
misdemeanors, a small citation here and
there. Going 30 fps into a 60, that sort
of thing. Uh, so keep that in mind as we
go forward. I can't make the big bus all
the time. All right, I got to do Look,
look at this guys. I'm doing a bunch of
research over here. I can't I can't be
This came from Content Cop Amateur Food
Reviewers released only 10 days after
the Jinx Content Cop. Rather than
critiquing a single content creator, it
was more so an examination of a genre
that so desperately lacked in creativity
that the only defining difference was
the food being reviewed. Another thing
they do, which they really don't have
to, is create a long rhy rap poem at the
beginning of their video, thinking that
that's really going to pump people up.
You can have that. I understand the
importance of of getting people excited,
but you know, a lot of the time it feels
kind of contrived.
>> YouTube, it's your boy Ranger Re. You
need a clock to know what time it is.
What up party people in the place to be
is your boy C Snacks.
>> What's up people? What it be? What it
do? Happy man snacks back again with a
new review.
>> Hey, what's going on party people? It's
your boy Snack Dubs back again with
another legit food review.
>> No one gives a [ __ ] So, you got to
create suspense. If you don't have a
crazy personality, if you don't have mad
jokes, you got to create suspense some
other way.
Are we serving breakfast all day? Let's
peep this out. It has all sorts of good.
It has fish in it. AND IT
[screaming]
Today we're going to be looking at all
the food review channels that can't help
but do the exact same thing as every
[ __ ] other food review channel. This
content cop like the toy review channel
Content Cop were far less risky and less
hard-hitting. They served to deconstruct
rather than harshly critique. Ian
tempered his content cops dependent on
the quote unquote crime. If not clear by
previous content cops, this was clear by
his coverage of the fine bros and where
he emphasizes he does not want to beat a
dead horse. Almost as if he made a video
covering them out of obligation. Hey
Idubbbz, you're going to go after the
fine bros. Oh boy, I was all excited.
Going to get so many hits if you make
fun of the revenue bros. [ __ ] I should
have broke the story. I wait a few days
and everyone's making fine bros videos.
[ __ ] the fine brothers. Fine brothers
more like revenue brothers. Revenue
brothers more like money grubbing.
>> All of the content cops up to this point
besides the one on Jinx could be
regarded as the weakest in the series.
But Ian was about to define the series.
This begins coincidentally enough after
his Jinx content cop. But then Idubbbz
suggested that the argument should turn
physical. He said this. I'd say we do a
charity MMA fight to settle our
differences. My charity is the cancer
one. And Jinx responded by saying, "Set
it up." Ian was satisfied Jinx and
Keemstar was meant to help organize it.
Ian in January 2016 released a short
video promoting the event. However, Jinx
began to demand money and did not seem
entirely committed to the fight. In
February, Idubbbz announced that Jinx
had backed out, but he still flew to
Philadelphia to make a video pointing
fun at his cowardice. The reason this
matters beyond demonstrating Idubbb's
interest in boxing for charity was
because of these three messages between
Idubbbz and Keemstar. And where Keemstar
threatens, quote, I would destroy your
career, but I like your vids too much."
If inflated ego is the enemy, then
Keemstar was Ian's enemy. Idubbbz
uploaded a video and he had the Alex
clip in there and I'm like, oh no, not
this. [laughter]
Jesus,
>> it's coming back to haunt you.
>> It's not this. This is the time where it
started to be like, "Oh, you're a
racist. You're in the KKK." You know,
like this is the time where it was being
really negative. So, I hit up Idubbbz.
I'm like, "Dude, please don't like don't
use that clip." I'm like, "Or I'd have
to ruin your career." Like laughing out
loud as the meme. He took that as I was
actually threatening him. Keemstar has a
habit of recontextualizing his worst
moments to favor him. Although he claims
he was joking when he sent those
messages, as reinforced by the LOL
afterwards, there was likely a part of
him that meant it. This plays into
another element of who Ian is. He is a
very stubborn person. He is someone who
freely said racial slurs. His
catchphrase at the time was yen and f
words thrown together. His mythos was
against conformity, but he still existed
within his own principles and would
argue not use racial slurs in a
derogatory way. I was making videos like
during a time where it was very popular
online to be like uh antisocial justice
and um I in in a lot of ways I've been
like lumped in with a lot of people who
were making um big antisocial justice
videos back then. Um, I was definitely
like part of that culture. I definitely
wouldn't deny that. With Ian hating
being suppressed, it is possible that he
set on making a Keemstar content cop, if
only because Keemstar threatened him.
>> So So that was the thing. It's like the
day before I released the uh Keemstar
video, I called my local police and I
was like,
>> "Put me on the white list.
>> Are you [ __ ] serious?"
>> I said, "Give me a call if anything
happens." I did the same thing before
the Leafy one as well.
>> Wow.
>> It is that [ __ ] up though.
>> It is seriously. Some people are really
just out of their [ __ ] minds.
>> Those of you listening who don't like
follow YouTube, like it's that [ __ ]
up.
>> Yeah.
>> Ian feared the retribution from
attacking Keemstar so much they did put
measures in place to avoid being
swatted. Finally, on May 5th, 2016,
Content Cop Keemstar released. Ian
spends nearly the first four minutes
hunting different versions of a gnome
meant to represent Keemstar. He goes
from storm drains to the desert. This
was the showman and playful side of Ian.
It also helped reinforce that Keemstar
looked like a gnome. If there was any
insult that his audience could rally
behind, it was that Ian in his video
highlights Keemstar's hypocrisy,
transactional, and manipulative nature,
and his ego. In the video, Idubbbz also
makes it a point to state that he
unironically believes Keemstar should
end himself. This content cop was
gaining traction like no other. In just
9 days, it had hit nearly 2 million
views and stabilized at a high like
ratio. Even so, it hardly affected
Keemstar's channel as he continued to
gain subscribers well into May. This is
likely because instead of fighting the
criticisms, Keemstar embraced them. I
find it almost impossible to fight with
people who I think are funny. Idubbbz
knows I've been watching his videos
forever. He knows I'm a fan of him and
he's [ __ ] rolling on the ground with
popcorn and [ __ ] gnomes and [ __ ] And
I'm just not mad. It's funny. Like I
>> While Keemstar was initially unaffected
by the content cop as the video gained
traction, his friends would eventually
betray him. One of those people was
infamous creator Leafy is here. By the
end of May, Idubbbz had surpassed 1
million subscribers. Though Ian had
struck gold with his Keemstar content
cop, he had regressed to lesser targets.
In June, he released a second content
cop on toy review channels. And in
August, he released a video on the prank
channel, How to Prank It Up. reply back
to them, hey dude, you have something
stuck in your teeth. Hey man, what was
that plastic green thing hanging from
your hair? And then what it's going to
do is a made you look prank. So they're
going to think, oh man, did I have
something in my hair? You made them
look. For this prank, you're going to
need a cell phone with Snapchat
installed. You need to attend VidCon,
meet up with a creator that you're not a
very big fan of, and say, "Hey, I'm a
big fan of your work." You take a selfie
with them, and then you send it to all
your friends with a caption like, "Got
him." or I got a picture with Roman
Atwood.
>> This was arguably the weakest and least
Content Copesque in the original series.
The ethos of the Content Cop postcontent
cop Keemstar was to shame the shameless.
This is likely why Content Cop on how to
prank it up was one of the least viewed.
That and his highest crime was making
tutorial videos on Dole of Pranks. How
to prank it up even kindly reacted to
his Content Cop. Quote, I watched this
video all the way to the end. Damn, you
roasted me good, Idubbbz. that was
totally unexpected and funny AF."
Perhaps Ian was attempting to take back
the character and create less impactful
videos to lower expectations and dilute
the character's destructive potential.
Ian was growing in size and influence.
So even by that merit, his words had far
more power than they once did. And if
this kept up, he would no longer be
punching up. Yet, there were still
creators worthy of the full Content Cop
experience. Leafius here was a creator
who was far outperforming even Idubbbz
in terms of viewership. He was uploading
daily, which was an aspect the YouTube
algorithm especially favored. Yet, his
videos were virtually all the same. They
were commentary videos with gameplay
footage. This was the same format of the
Call of Duty commenters a decade prior.
Only Leafy aimed his rants at infamous
or otherwise odd figures. He would
critique them in such a shallow fashion
that even his commentary was uninspired.
Furthermore, he was specifically getting
backlash for making a video on Tom YenC
2010, an autistic YouTuber, which is
something he apologized for. Hey, what's
up guys? It's Leafy. And as many of you
guys know, this is going to be an
apology video for everything that has
happened recently. Though Leafy still
made videos on the lesser capable like
children. Creator H3H3, who was also
known for his commentary, released a
video calling out Leafy for how he was
using his platform. And I mean, if you
look at Leafy's channel, all he does is
make fun of kids and like vulnerable
people like Joey's World Tour. There's
no there's no sport in making fun of
these people. They're just It's just
sad. So, here's the video he made about
Tommy. Here's a video he made about a
little girl who made a music video who
Here's a making fun of a kid. Here's
making fun of a Joey's World Tour who's
obviously has a eating disorder. Here's
making fun of a kid. Here's making fun
of a kid. Kid, kid, kid,
kid.
Like, what the [ __ ] man?
>> In this video, Ethan of H3H3 states that
Leafy targeting vulnerable people is
distasteful and that his channel has
gotten so big that even his smallest
critiques will have his fan base harass
the individuals he covers. He also
accepts that his claims are hypocritical
to an extent. Leafy responded to Ethan
not by accepting the criticism, but by
targeting Ethan's character,
specifically showing how Ethan, in an
older video, made fun of a 14-year-old's
haircut, how Ethan supported Leafy and a
different controversial creator at one
point. Overall, making it seem like
Ethan was a morally bankrupt person.
Even though this was not the argument,
Leafy successfully evaded any
long-lasting damage by simply evading
the argument of morals. Idubbbz,
however, was more attuned to what Leafy
was doing and what viewers really
wanted. Rather than center the argument
about bullying and what is and is not
okay, Idub centered it on character. And
what better delivery method than the
content cop?
[music]
>> [music]
[music]
>> Hey everybody, welcome back to another
episode of Content Cop. As you can
probably tell, I can hardly contain
myself right now because today is the
day we get to bully Leafy. In Content
Cop Leafy, Ian demonstrates that not
only can you play the same game as
Leafy, but also he was better at it.
Straight off the bat, I want to let all
the newcomers to my channel know that
I'm perfectly fine with bullying. Make
fun of someone cuz they're fat,
autistic, or riddled with acne, I don't
care. Make fun of them. I think my only
stipulation with the bullying is that
you also have to not be a [ __ ] You
see, because if you're a [ __ ] and
you're hiding your putrid, malformed
chin behind your hand, your sleeve, or
your microphone, you're you're showing
people that you are extremely
self-conscious. You're showing people
that you're a [ __ ] and that takes a
lot of the oomph out of your bullying.
Ian in his video breaks down Leafy's
repetitive, shallow comments, and how
Leafy in his most scathing critiques
only half-heartedly takes ownership of
the insults.
>> Driving a car with the Minecraft logo in
the corner, his [ __ ] teeth.
Nah, [ __ ] that. I'm not going to be
talking about the kid today.
>> I'm not going to be talking about the
kid today after showing a picture of his
[ __ ] up snaggle tooth to my millions
of followers. A zoomedin picture of his
[ __ ] up snaggletoothoth. Yeah. No, I'm
not going to be talking about the kid
today. I'm not going to talk about his
[ __ ] up teeth. His teeth. The [ __ ]
up thing in his mouth. I'm not going to
talk about that. That would be a [ __ ]
up thing for me to do. The way Ian
breaks down Leafy's videos is by
pinpointing their lack of substance.
Such as how they all bleed into one
another to the point that Leafy's own
generalized insults can be used on
himself. Look at his [ __ ] face. I bet
you anything he raped someone, killed
them, and then threw them in the laundry
and then made this song.
>> I I know that you're joking. It's very
obviously a joke. You're just You're
saying look at his face. His face is a
rapist face. Look at his dumb rapist
face. I don't know. Maybe it is funny. A
after saying it back to myself now. Now
I think it's funny. I think I think it's
one of those jokes you really have to
repeat it a thousand times to really
understand where the humor comes from.
Throughout the video, Ian demonstrates
how Leafy self arandizes, backstabs his
friends, and most importantly, he does
what H3 failed to get across. Ian makes
an argument based on ethics in his own
playful way while alluding that the
concept is so simple even children
understand it. So, that's how I got the
brilliant idea of writing a children's
book. It's called Leave Me Alone. I I
have this scene where he's in an ice
cream shop and he's got a big stack of
ice cream covering his chin and he's
saying some mean [ __ ] to people. And
then the next scene he's making fun of
more people, but this time he's got a
basketball in front of his [ __ ] chin.
And then finally, he's going to be in
front of a tree with a leaf covering his
chin. and there will be a big gust of
wind coming and the leaf blows away
exposing his putrid chin. The moral of
the story is essentially going to be
treat others the way you want to be
treated sort of meme. It'll be a cute
thing, something you can show to your
kids. Ian's argument is that everyone
can be criticized and that a punch can
be returned with a corrective punch.
Ian's punch was aimed at Leafy's chin,
which did not appear to be strong enough
to take it.
>> Disappeared. Huh?
>> No, he's just his chin disappeared.
>> Oh.
>> [music]
>> I will wait for you
till you're
>> I'm giving away some prizes over here.
All it takes is
>> hiding a chin.
>> You a Leafy fan?
>> No. Oh, hell yeah. For you. We've got a
microphone. [music] All right, bro.
Perfect. That is picture perfect, my
man. Ian's confidence, his whimsy, the
moral of the story, the deserving
target. This was nearly the perfect
cotton cop. But one element was missing.
To accentuate all the flavor of this
video, to solidify the purpose of the
core Chester, there needs to be a
response met not in humility, but
arrogance, which is what Leafy did.
>> Like, guys, [music] did you hear him? I
have no chin. What? Hey,
[music]
where is it? Where is it? Where is it?
He stole it.
[music]
>> Don't look at me. Don't look at me.
Don't look at me.
[ __ ] hell.
Leafy's response was so uninspired and
laden with misunderstanding, it proved
all of Ian's points correct. He also
attempted to counter shame Ian. This
called for Ian's own follow-up, which he
titled Content Deputy.
>> Ever since the day that Mr. Savage
himself went for making videos like
[ __ ] this Gangnam style. [music]
>> Ah, Slenderman Gangnam style. Excellent
choice. Damn, Leafy, you got baited. I
actually played that video in all my
other videos because I actually like it
a lot. Cringey Slenderman Gangnam style
video. You like Slenderman Gangnam
style, dude. A lesser examined element
of why Ian was perfect for the role of
the content cop was because he outwardly
presented himself as a vile human being.
Ian said slurs freely, even the most
taboo, because he constantly and
intentionally debased himself, meaning
Leafy was a fool to point out that the
gesture critiques and dances.
>> Look at that hairline. What the [ __ ]
dude? He's actually going [ __ ] bald.
>> This guy doing the classic receding
hairline gag. It's a good gag, but
that's not a [ __ ] receding hairline,
dude. Let me show what you what a
receding hairline looks like. Yeah,
there we go. Now that's a receding
hairline. Ian's content cop marked the
beginning of the end for Leafy. In
successfully taking down a channel that
was over twice his size, Ian was flooded
with support and easily gained over
10,000 subscribers daily. Though growth
is typically welcome, Ian was quickly
running into the same issue that plagued
Leafy and even H3H3 in that as their own
channels that relied on critique grew,
the harder their punches would be. It
was now an event when Idubbbz released a
new content cop. Ian with now millions
of subscribers was being looked upon as
a trends setter. In just 2016, viewers
latched on to several of his quotes.
>> I have osteoporosis.
I have crippling depression.
>> Hey, that's pretty good.
[laughter]
>> Do one more oneliner. Jump down. Jump
down and then say some [ __ ] gay [ __ ]
>> I'm gay.
[laughter]
>> The cancer crew were a group of five
popular YouTubers that served to be
outrageous. They would come together and
form a modern-day jackass. Fittingly so,
the members would push each other to act
even more fullhearted. As these videos
racked up as many views as individual
Condop episodes, so did audienc's
understanding of the individual members
roles and the camaraderie the group had.
Anything for views, also known as Chad,
was a lesserknown creator. How to basic
was in charge of the camera work as he
was protective of his identity. Max Mofo
was likely the first large creator Ian
ever got into contact with. Yeah. Um,
and then Max, I'll like like we said
earlier, I'll always have a soft spot in
my heart for Max. He was watching my
videos before anyone else was when I had
like
>> 20K subscribers. He's watching my
videos.
>> That's really cool.
>> Um, he can he he It's so [laughter]
funny. It's so funny to see actual like
I'll I'll post memes that only people
will understand if they if they had
watched like a really old Kickstarter
crap. And Max knows all those.
>> He can he can quote my videos word for
word. And [laughter]
these people who are like I've been a
fan since 100 subs. They don't [ __ ]
[clears throat] know the [ __ ]
>> That's so he's actually number one I I
dupes fan.
>> Oh yeah, Max is a legend. I love Max.
That was from the H3H3 podcast. While
they were not a member of the cancer
crew, they did collaborate and were
friends with Ian. Ethan for only seconds
could be seen in Content Cop Leafy. Yet,
he played a much larger role in the
Sewer Chicken review, which appears to
have been filmed at the same time.
Similarly, on H3's channel, Ian would
collaborate and provide commentary
alongside Ethan. There was one character
that collaborated and could outdo both
of these creators. the only jester that
was more effective in the space than
even Ian, that is Filthy Frank, or
rather the person behind the character,
George Miller.
>> George Miller has influenced culture
globally in ways some don't realize. In
2013, on his disaster music channel, he
sparked the Harlem Shake craze, a
phenomena that likely has over a billion
views collectively, where one person
dances seemingly out of place. The beat
of the song drops and suddenly everyone
is dancing regardless of how abnormal
the circumstances are. George Miller,
even before he embodied Filthy Frank,
had the ability to shift culture, even
if it was not his intent. And just like
Idubbbz, the Filthy Frank videos were
not all devoid of commentary. Take for
example his it's just a prank bro video
commenting on the prank genre.
>> But how they do whatever the [ __ ] they
want and get away with it is is beyond
me.
How How are they able to do these
terrible things and get away with them?
How do I be racist, misogynistic,
horrible,
and get away with it?
How could I have been this stupid? It's
so simple now.
[snorts] I understand now. I understand
now.
>> [music]
>> In the next 7 minutes of the video,
Filthy Frank harasses strangers to then
deliver the line, "You just got
pranked." In these moments, Frank was
just as bad as the channels he was
critiquing. George Miller, as he did
across his videos, would dawn a body
morph suit. Fitting attire for a jester.
The difference overall was the purpose.
Some prank channels would fake their
pranks for the purpose of driving
division and obtaining a paycheck. In
late 2016, creator Joey Salads was
exposed for this exact thing.
>> So, it came out that you faked a very
racist social experiment, three in a
row. It started with the uh salad lives,
the black lives matter debating trunk
prank, and then finally,
>> I don't want these videos to
to make anybody look at the entire race
in that type of way. Well, I I messed up
with the way that I made the videos
because I should have
>> what I should have did was at the end of
the videos or at the beginning of the
videos, I should have said disclaimer.
I'm you know this this is the video I'm
trying to do. I'm I'm And don't let this
video judge the entire race, the entire
culture off the acts of a very few
individuals.
>> You kind of specifically say the
opposite that.
>> As you can see, black people got really
emotional. We can see from this video
the black community is very violent
towards Trump and his supporters.
>> Filthy Frank would act in a highly
offensive fashion at a micro scale to
point out the absurdity of what was
happening and effect culture at a macro
scale. He was not critiquing the concept
of a prank, but how morally bankrupt
creators would use it to justify their
own actions and warp reality to fit
them. In this way, he does not deny the
entertainment value of the product, but
instead challenges the creators intent
and the audiences who consume it. George
Miller reinforces that this was the
concept of the character in the
channel's description. Quote, "Filthy
Frank is the embodiment of everything a
person should not be. He is anti-PC,
antisocial, and anti-cou. He behaves and
reacts excessively to everything
expressly to highlight the
ridiculousness of racism, misogyny,
legalism, injustice, ignorance, and
other social bllights. He also sets an
example to show how easy it is in the
social media for any zany material to
gain traction/f following by simply
sharing unsavory opinions and joking
about topics many find offensive. There
is no denying that the show is terribly
offensive. But this terrible
offensiveness is a deliberate and
unapologetic parody of the whole social
media machine and a reflection of the
human microcosm that that social media
is. Or maybe I'm just [ __ ] retarded."
unquote. Even with such clear intent,
there would always be a wide range of
interpretations. There would be those
that love Frank solely for being
offensive, as well as those who hate him
for that exact same reason. Sick of fans
and detractors, or perhaps those unaware
of the concept of the jester, could
interpret his character in far different
ways.
>> Are you an irrational radical feminist?
Well, here's a tip. Get laid, you fat
piece of [ __ ]
Are you an irrational radical
anti-feminist?
Well, here's a tip. Get laid, you fat
piece of [ __ ]
>> George Miller did well to avoid the
character becoming too much of an icon
or enemy. Even so, there was a desire to
exist outside of his role as a jester.
Long story short, I was born with this,
but I was recently diagnosed with a
brain condition
um that ironically uh gives me seizures.
You know, I this whole time we thought
it was so funny doing these fake
seizures and now uh some call it bad
luck, some call it karma, but ironically
uh boss.
>> Hey boss, I have a seizure
>> now. Uh it's it's not extremely
life-threatening or anything. Um and I'm
not and I'm not going to go into detail
uh because obviously I don't I don't
want you guys looking [ __ ] up. But
unfortunately uh what happens here is a
lot of the seizures are actually induced
by stress which unfortunately uh comes
from a lot of it comes from running this
show. One could infer that George Miller
meant producing the videos was the
stressful aspect. And while that likely
did induce strain, as did him doing the
voice for the character, George points
to his real personal image or the lack
of understanding of it being the
difficult part. Because a lot of the
stress came from the idea that um you
guys don't realize that I exist as well
as a as a human. I I'm I'm There's
Frank, there's Pink Guy, there's
Salamander Man. there all these all
these wonderful [ __ ] living here, but
then there's me as well. And people not
knowing that I existed and um that it
was just these guys really uh gave me a
lot of stress, you know, um because uh
I'm I'm a normal person just like the
rest of you guys.
>> While this is open to interpretation, it
could be that that was the core of the
issue. A desire for the lesser
understanding segments of his audience
to understand the offensive material in
itself is not the point. Filthy Frank is
not George Miller, but rather his art.
Possibly to allow his audience to get a
better understanding of the separation,
George Miller briefly made a vlogging
channel which was more true to who he
was. Even within these vlogs, he found
it difficult to express all of this. Hey
guys, upon reviewing my own content in
the first vlog, I came to realize that
this really isn't an accurate
representation of how I actually live. I
wanted the first vlog to, you know,
stand out. So, naturally, I released
footage uh that the vast majority would
like to see, aka pretty much anything
that Frank would film and laugh at. But
then I realized that uh this channel
really has nothing to do with Filthy
Frank or anything. And I would like to
keep it that way. So, I do not go around
filming old people actually. Like, I it
was me trying to please everyone yet
again as as usual. Uh this channel is is
really for myself. So, if it bores you,
I'm terribly sorry. My life is pretty
boring.
>> George was soon delete these videos as
they were not entirely wellreceived.
>> Oh, believe me, I [ __ ] wish I could.
>> Hey, Max.
>> Yeah.
>> Can I uh I see a lot of Joji vlogs
comments, so can I just address the Joji
vlogs thing and clear things up?
>> You can address the vlogs in the room,
dude.
>> Yeah, I uh I love doing Joji vlogs, but
I just had no time. So, unfortunately, I
did not I I could not continue with it.
So, I'm sorry. That's that's it.
>> Come on, dude. Why'd you delay on them?
You really to get my [ __ ] nerds
joined.
>> Oh, no. They're they're still up.
Someone re-uploaded them. They're up
there.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's just you don't want to, you
know, same same reason I delete my
gaming stuff, man. It's like it's not
really the channel for that sort of
thing for me, you know.
>> George's vlogs were indeed re-uploaded
by an archavist. The top comment from
this video shares a popular sentiment
amongst his audience. Quote, "I think
what makes these vlogs sad to watch is
the fact that it was short-lived because
people shunned him for quote unquote
breaking the fourth wall, and after
that, he became bitter and miserable for
having to be stuck doing a character,"
unquote. George Miller did play this
character for at least three more years,
but 2017 was a different year, where the
years prior prominent creators formed a
coalition against the drags of YouTube.
With increasing pressure from
traditional media and advertisers, the
website began to crack down on all forms
of non-family-friendly content. [music]
YouTube sought to rid itself of its
cancer. It poisoned itself even with the
knowledge that healthy cells would
suffer too. One only hopes that the
cancer dies first in targeting prank
channels, quote unquote kids channels,
and other forms of unwanted media,
items, Filthy Frank, H3H3, and even
creators who were detached from that
content style were widely being
affected. H3 had launched their podcast
which could appeal to YouTube's nebulous
roles. Filthy Frank and Idubbbz were not
as malleable. The character of Filthy
Frank relied on obscinity. Furthermore,
George Miller had long expressed he
wanted a different way to express
himself. And now he was being crushed.
On one end, YouTube was cracking down on
his content, meaning to exist, it would
had to be more family-friendly and
therefore less expressive. And on the
other side, he was already creatively
dissatisfied and stressed with being
constrained to the character for so
long. It was time for change.
>> What finally like gave you the
confidence to be like, "All right, this
is it's time for like this to be my
>> just general uh biological clock type
shit."
>> Nice.
>> You know, it was like, "Oh, like am I am
I just going to like kind of do this or
am I am I going to move on and, you
know, make make bigger and better
stuff?" You know, cuz that's really what
it's all about. Like George Miller had
reincarnated as Joji, a musician seeking
to express himself with a wider range of
topics like love or purpose. This was a
shot in the dark because George Miller
was insecure about his art as Felty
Frank. Formerly, he could play with
serious topics, but also playfully
discard them as to preempt potential
criticism. Now, he stripped that veil
away. As it concerns the story of
Idubbbz, it is less about the change,
but how it carefully took place. the fan
bases. Um, I believe they they get into
a lot of arguments often. Um, it's
quickly it's quickly unifying though.
Um, from what I've seen, uh, when I'm
out on the street, it's 50/50. Uh,
people either they're, you know, they
call me out for the work that they know
me for. So, you know, the people who who
are still attached to my old work, you
know, that's that's fine.
>> George Miller did not disown his old
audience or his old art. He was less
focused on how he was perceived and more
about who he was. He did abandon Filthy
Frank and its related channels as a
message that he was exploring something
new, but not without a goodbye. In his
last video on Filthy Frank, he announces
his book that is purely in the world of
Filthy Frank. This was not his only
goodbye. On his second channel, Too Damn
Filthy, George Miller had been long
releasing music under the character Pink
Guy from the Filthy Frank universe. The
lyrics were overall silly yet sometimes
serious and sometimes entirely
nonsensical. On the Filthy Frank
channel, four tracks were remixed and
released in collaboration with various
artists in the form of Pink Guy, the
Prophecy. This is a music video that
respects the universe of Filthy Frank
and is possibly a serious retelling of
George Miller's story as the character.
It is likely its own artistic expression
of George Miller's feelings on the
channel and why he had to move on. The
first segment shows that Pink Guy is
euphoric. He is free in exploring vast
fields and put alongside iconography
representing these exact things.
>> [music]
>> This could be the joy of first
discovering the freedom of the
character. In the last segment of the
track, the mood changes. Pink guy is no
longer exploring a vast field, but
navigating a dead forest. Quote,
"Classic penis joke inserted with
appropriate timing because if I ain't
got a penis line, I ain't dining." No
homo, but seriously, I'm getting faded
and my life is like my vids at low
budget and underrated. Kids, the only
way to succeed is to chip away at the
soul." A comment about how he has
bastardized his art and even creative
spirit to exist. He is then banished to
hell. This is when a war version of him
appears on earth existing to fulfill
himself not by expression but by pure
hedonistic activities. This leads to a
life where he is forced to wear a mask
and ultimately dies unfulfilled and
untrue to himself. Finally, he is
reincarnated and finds fulfillment
through music. This is possibly alluding
to his music under Pink Eye and
continues to produce highly offensive
music, but then realizes the potential
damage of what was being said. Quote,
"That was a little dark, very poor
taste. I shouldn't have said that."
unquote. The unique part about this line
is in the original track, Pink Eyee
doubles down on this comment. Not just
taking his apology back, but also
reinforcing his desire to be
unconstrained. This is why this more
artistic rendition that lack the double
down could be more accurate to the
feelings of George Miller. The closing
track is the shortest. It is the first
time in the music video that Pink Guy is
producing a video where he plays with
wantons and makes safe, therefore
uninspired videos. The commentary here
is the lack of it. to look at how George
Miller reincarnated and has been
constrained by the pink eye character,
his audience, and YouTube's policies. It
would not make sense to look at his
entire journey and then for him to
continue in a way that was dishonest to
himself and unbecoming of the character.
With that, George Miller would go on to
embrace Joji and succeed to the point
that his art both existed on its own and
its popularity would lead him to perform
at Madison Square Garden. Ian would
begin at the same place yet end up
somewhere far different. I think
generally it was just kind of like
wanting a little bit more something was
a little bit more rewarding, fulfilling.
So that's kind of why I like started to,
you know, move away from it.
>> And you've said that anyone who focuses
their entire career on making edgy
content, edgy jokes, eventually finds
themselves wanting to to do something
more fulfilling with their lives.
>> Totally. Ian would reflect on his
content. He will later speak of how
while some videos were impactful in the
ways he desired, such as the Leafy
Content Cop, others he would regret for
how they were interpreted and to the
extents he went to prove a point. There
was a growing voice of displeasure
analyzing not the purpose of Idubbbz,
but rather only isolating his actions.
Content creator Tanojo was one of these
people. Though she was unfamiliar with
Ian, she was furious at the slurs
Idubbbz used to the point that she
demanded he end it himself.
>> Now, this is a story all about how I was
involved in a shooting. For those of you
who don't follow the drama, I'll give
you a brief rundown of what's happened
so far. A couple months ago, Tana Mojo
tweeted at me that she was very unhappy
with my use of the N-word. I didn't
respond to her tweet. Instead, I did a
bit of research and I found out that she
used the dreaded nword in the past, but
she didn't use the n-word in the same
way that I use it. She used it in a very
mean-spirited way. You know, you [ __ ]
>> growing up in Vegas, everybody said
those words and I didn't even know that
they were considered racist at all. They
were in rap songs and I totally thought
it just meant like homie or like friend.
>> Tana Mojo was arguing that saying the
n-word was a high crime. This is not a
unique perspective, but was hypocritical
coming from Tana as she had used that
word in the past in a derogatory
fashion. This is what inspired Ian's
content cop honor, covering her
hypocrisy and how she embellishes her
stories. What else can be said about
this topic that hasn't been said
already? And not much. Pretty much
everyone said it already, but uh here's
some clips of Tana saying that context
isn't important.
>> Okay, but when you but when you're
reading it, even if you're just saying
it, even if you're reading something
that somebody else says, you're saying,
"I'm a white person and I think it's
okay to say that word." It doesn't
matter the context that you say it in,
it's still racist.
>> It doesn't matter the context you say it
in. It's still racist. Listen up,
teachers of America. If you've ever read
aloud huckleberry fin to your students,
you've engaged in an act of racism.
>> The supporters call themselves nword.
Like that's what they call each other.
>> Whoa. Tana, you going to drop the fbomb
like that.
>> And how content cop Leafy was a message
about treating others how you would like
to be treated. Content cop Tana was an
argument that the nword holds power
because it is taboo.
>> People didn't get their [ __ ] heads
ran over in World War II. They weren't
thrown into internment camps. But yeah,
but you but you can't say that one
because it's got sort of a it's
guttural. Either all of them are okay or
none of them are okay. I think that was
my like it was like a combination of a
lot of things in that video that I think
led to um me regretting it and being
like, "Oh, this is like too much." Like
I went way too like
>> I think the most interesting thing about
that video is the it's either all okay
or none of it's okay.
>> It was one of these statements that was
like it like I wanted something that
sounded strong and like yeah punchy. And
that's exactly what you know I thought
worked. It's funny like the amount of
people who I I've talked to now that
were like oh yeah when you said that
like I did interpret it as like yeah
none of it's okay. That's how I That's
how [laughter] I was like, "Yeah, I
agree."
>> Yeah.
>> Ian would later regret having such a
strong statement in his video. But just
like the Leafy one, the message was also
to be consistent. But the jester must
dance. And dance he did. It's incredible
how much more intelligent you would have
looked if during the event where I came
and said, if you just said, "Wow, you're
a very uncomfortable person and you're
not very funny. What a pathetic joke."
You would have just destroyed me. But
you couldn't do that because you're the
most predictable human being on the
planet.
>> Say
he walks up to me. He kind of like locks
his arm around me like around my neck
like this. And it it wasn't like it was
like a choke hold or anything. It was it
was very like firm and like tight like I
couldn't have really gotten it out if
that makes sense. I'll explain that in a
second. And so the guy looks at me and
he wraps his arms around me and he looks
in the camera and he goes, "Say." And he
puts his thumbs up and [music] then like
blink and he says the n word like hard r
n word like say n word like hard r like
[music] smiling loud as [ __ ] like yells
it and like looks at me and looks at me
like say.
>> Approaching Tana at a meet and greet was
Ian's girlfriend's idea. One that proved
to be fruitful as Tana had embellished
the story by misreporting how Ian had
held her. Ian would demonstrate how
dishonest Hannah was. Even so, there was
a guilt building because she was young
and Ian had placed her in an
uncomfortable position regardless of the
point he was trying to prove.
>> And I, you know, created a situation
where like she couldn't, you know, just
walk away from it. I entered her life
and uh that's too much.
>> Mhm.
>> Tana shortly after the Content Cop
released a video reflecting on the brunt
of Ian's words and the online mob that
formed around them. She explains that
she said those slurs as a freshman in
high school and has apologized for them,
but has come to the conclusion that
those apologies were deceitful and not
enough.
>> All in all, I said the n-word in those
videos. I knew what it meant regardless
of me knowing the depth of it or the
pain behind it or anything like that. I
knew that it was a slur and my friends
and I thought it was shocking and
offensive and funny to say to Omari cuz
he was black and he was okay with it and
he thought it was funny and blah blah
blah. And so I made stupid vines like
that. Had this not happened to me, had
Idubbbz not made that video, had the
entire world been looking at my channel
under this microscope and criticizing me
and calling me out for my wrongs, I
would have never made this video. I
would have never owned up to it. I would
have never had to face it the way that I
am right now. I would have continued to
give half-ass shitty apologies like I
was previously. I would have continued
to push it under the rug and run away
from my problems like I always do. I
would have never made a video like this
because I would have been too afraid.
and in a really [ __ ] up weird way. I
am glad all of this is happening.
>> Ian had once again successfully shamed
the target for the better. Tana
expressed just as much and added that it
took something that crude to make a
point. Though the commenters were not so
ready to accept Tana's quick turnaround,
later interviews would demonstrate how
she had internalized what Ian said.
>> Yeah, 100%. And the Condop was good at
>> I feel like you you've like swallowed up
this like self-guilt at the end of the
day. You were calling out a white dude
for saying the N word. That's pretty
common, right?
>> But where did I have the room to call
him out? You know,
>> about 2 months after the Tana Content
Cop, Ian appeared as a guest for episode
4 of the H3 podcast. Within he expresses
his sympathies for some of the creators
he has targeted and why he feels his
fine bros content cop was cruel after he
had met one of them. some of the
commentary channels out there is a when
they go in really hard, I'm like,
>> you need to interact with these people
that you make fun of in real life just
to be reminded
>> of what you're actually doing kind of
thing.
>> Uh so interacting with Rafie
>> when you see his face and you're like
and then you recall all the terrible
things you said about it and you're like
[ __ ] like
>> exactly
>> this is real life. He felt this [ __ ]
>> I the the the the internet wall is no
longer there. 5T
it becomes real.
>> That's an interest also it happens when
your channel becomes big because then
most of the times the videos you make
they're definitely going to see like
when you're a small channel you don't
know who's going to watch your videos. I
was much more loose with my lips on
Twitter and everywhere else when I was
smaller.
>> And now I have to kind of
>> if I say like when I was smaller I would
have without a heartbeat said some mean
[ __ ] about PewDiePie.
>> But now I would be like
>> he's my friend.
>> He's my friend.
>> I like him.
>> He's wonderful Swede.
>> In October of 2017, Idubbbz would
release his final content cop and also
content deputy of the original series.
This time Ian targeted creator Ricegum.
It even included a cameo from the
largest creator on YouTube and this was
a peak of Idubbbz in terms of
viewership. From November 2016 to
November 2017, Idubbbz uploaded around
25 videos. Then from November 2017 to
January 2019, Idubbbz had only uploaded
12 times on Idubbbz TV. This is less
than once a month. These were a mix of
the Idubbbz complain series where Ian
critiques lottery food portions
specifically how restaurants give them
esoteric names and so on. And he also
released another legit food review with
his most common collaborator H3H3.
>> It's a really beautiful day. Glorious
day almost would you even say
>> it's all right. [music] I think it's
Did you hear that? Pretty sure that's a
new Tuckerberry.
>> Tuckerberry.
>> Tuckerberry.
>> Oh tuck. Yeah, that's not it. It didn't
sound like a cuckerberry.
>> Are you going to do any cuck jokes on
the show? I want to keep those to a
minimum. All right.
>> No [ __ ] jokes. He's starting to sound
like a soy boy.
>> Yeah.
>> While Ian could have been unserious
about Ethan keeping the [ __ ] jokes to
minimum, [ __ ] or cuckled could have been
a more commonly used insult against
Idubbbz. Cuckled can be described simply
as quote a man whose wife is sexually
unfaithful regarded as an object of
derision. Unquote. This is what some
segments of the internet saw Ana Jamaa
Ian's girlfriend as. They started dating
around late 2016. Ana, as a not so
popular Twitch streamer, would get a
boost of attention from Ian's audience.
>> I found a lot of purpose and love in
streaming.
>> That was my passion. But when we learned
that
>> that wasn't uh something that was
viable, there was just so much hate.
Yeah. I would get people either coming
and asking about you constantly or like
hate towards me or hate towards you or
you know um
>> it I my career the thing that I've
really loved like
>> I couldn't do it. Yeah.
>> You know I just couldn't do it.
>> Even though Nissa had her reservations,
she would continue to stream and exist
as a public figure. The most popular
videos on her in the late 2010s would
not mention by name, only as Idubbb's
girlfriend. The best example of this is
by creator Britney Venty's takedown of
Ana where Venty drives the narrative
that Ana started dating Ian while she
was dating someone else.
>> I met somebody whilst I was in an on
andoff relationship that was [ __ ] but
wasn't very public about the shittiness
of it. Um, but I never cheated on
anybody. It's almost like I I don't know
what it is why people feel the need to
cheat. There is never a valid excuse for
cheating. Never, ever, ever does
somebody have a valid excuse for
cheating. But I guess somebody can have
a valid excuse for trading up like she
did. I mean, after all, she did the
right thing. She did nothing wrong
because it only took her a few hours of
talking to Idubbbz platonically to
realize that she needed to break up with
her current boyfriend for him.
>> Feel like that's okay. Like, I mean,
like, I'm not going to lie. I'm not
going to lie. My significant other that
I'm with now, like I when I met him, I
was dating somebody else. Ana could be
seen possibly flirting with other
content creators in 2017, particularly
with Chris Reagan. It did not help that
she was outspoken against at the time
popular creators. Now, our first story
is coming from Ana, also known as
Idubbbz's girlfriend. Ana was streaming
on Twitch and somebody in the chat asked
her what she thought about Ice Poseidon,
the in real life streamer here on
YouTube. He was on Twitch, but then he
got banned. And this is what she said.
Roll it.
>> Ice Poseidon
is successful not because he is
intelligent
or hardworking.
Ice Poseidon is successful because he
figured out that he could exploit his
douchebaggery
and overall
laziness.
I'm not a fan of him. I do not enjoy his
YouTube videos. I don't enjoy his live
streams. I cringe at when he said to
that woman that he's famous. I don't
enjoy him. I don't like him.
>> She also commented on Pyroynical's
commentary on female streamers
>> section. I mean, you can just see with
this clip, look how small the screen is
for the game. Jesus. And I know that
mentality that's been said before, don't
like it, don't watch it. The problem is
you're bringing a lot of kids on the
>> Why do people always make that argument?
Like, there's no way when she's playing
the actual game that it's that size.
Like, what the hell is that? I can
already see the headline now. I love
girlfriend says mean things about
Pyroynical in her stream. Ana in the
space was a PR nightmare. Where Ian
takes a colder, logical approach, yet is
not at all devoid of empathy as he
considers how his videos will affect his
targets, Ana takes a non-filtered,
emotional approach, as was made clear in
this debate against creator Vegan Gains.
Hey everyone. So, the other day I
debated Ana J or Yoma. I don't know how
to pronounce her last name, but some of
you may know her as Idubbbz's
girlfriend. And the debate proposition
was that vegan diets are superior in
terms of health compared to omnivorous
diets.
>> The theme of this whole discussion is
that like confidence comes off as
correctness, but I don't think that
that's
>> okay. Well, I I'm confident because I've
talked about this like literally every
day. It's my job.
>> Yeah. I mean, but I'm just saying I just
think that's the theme of what
valid arguments. I think that maybe I
just don't have the pay. I mean, which
is whatever. It's fine.
>> Well, Yeah. Like like it's fine. I I
don't think you're really prepared to
have a debate with this against me. Like
really someone like Lane
>> Nortoning like terrible thing to say.
Like
>> no it's not like look there's look
you're I'm not expecting everyone I come
across to be experts in nutrition or
know as much as me.
>> People ever listen to your stuff and
just go like man I went a little [ __ ]
hard there. Do you ever do that?
>> Um no. Like look, I'm a very direct
confrontational person. So
>> yeah, I know. I'm just I
>> There's nothing Look like I don't think
you're less of a person or stupid or
something for not knowing this stuff.
I'm not trying to suggest that.
>> You have a great talent of making people
look stupid. If you if this is your view
of winning, which is
>> talking very aggressively for a period
of time, very confident, you've won,
man. Like
>> I've made arguments. Despite how the
debate went, some allegedly saw Ana as
the victor.
>> So, I did watch Ana's stream on her
Twitch channel and a lot of her
followers were in support of her and
actually believe that she won the
debate, which is a little surprising
considering how miserably she lost.
>> In the nature that relationships or
friendships or general experiences
change someone, Ian was beginning to
change himself to better interact with
Ana. I would get triggered by any form
of abandonment basically and I would go
into 5-year-old brain
>> which for him was horrible obviously
that was like a really
>> I was always trying to like logic it out
and I'm like man [laughter] what the
hell she isn't listening to my logic and
my reason
>> could not get it to work
>> but it did finally click when she did
explain like I was going into 5-year-old
mode I'm like oh yeah like
>> that's literally what it was
>> if that's what it is then what am I
doing trying to like, you know, give you
a list of like, you know, things to
>> why it's not a problem or whatever.
>> Ian reflected on his content cops and
the damage they did to their targets
like Tana and Jinx. The fact did not
change that Ian was a tool to shame
others. And now that he was being shamed
for his partner, there was a deeper
regret for bringing on shame to others.
Like with Joji, Ian was shifting his
efforts towards a different endeavor.
But unlike Joji, it was not a
reinvention, but an extension. He was
now uploading more frequently on his
second channel, Idubbbz TV, too. Rather
than create something culturally
impactful or artistically meaningful,
Ian was going the route of least
damaging, one of pacivity. In essence,
he was creating a vlogging series that's
driving narrative was relocating the
scrolls in his backyard. And for the
time, viewers were invested. He was
getting millions of views in the series,
and there did seem to be some ambition
when it came to criticizing a specific
brand of yogurt.
You just watched me eat three yogurt
cups. And in that time, 12 animals died.
They died
from this. Not just any yogurt cup, a Y
play yogurt cup. Yo play. You know the
little uh the little red leaves, the red
or the red flower petals on the Y play
logo? Those are actually petals soaked
in blood from the animals that recently
died because they had their heads
trapped inside of a Yoplay yogurt
container. And Yoplay, we are we're
saying no way. # no way. Yo play, we are
going to boycott your company until you
solve this problem. And you don't even
want to know what that means. I have an
army behind me. What do you have?
Where's your social media presence? This
is your only warning, yo play. The top
comments are assuming that Ian's targets
have changed from criticizing creators
to going after companies that are worthy
of a content cop. Logically, this would
make sense. This could enact welcome
change and Ian would not need to temper
his blows as he did when critiquing
creators. Though viewers would soon be
disappointed. All right, so about 14
days ago, I issued a challenge to Yo
Play. I asked them to change their cup
design, come up with something new. We
didn't hear anything in response. A lot
of you, I noticed, thought that I had
some sort of grand plan, some sort of
grand scheme. Sure, I [clears throat] I
still want Yo Play to change their
design. I don't know how I'm going to
get them to do that. I'm open to
suggestions from you guys, but I'm not
this all knowing wizard that can snap my
fingers and make a a large corporation
like General Mills just decide, "Oh,
well, he's spooked us, so we're going to
change it." No, it's not anything
extreme. Sorry, Phil. I'm not going to
murder someone for a YouTube video.
>> Idas revealed his hand and showed that
he was no longer holding the Joker card
or any card for that matter. This
multi-ep episode series, Tracking
Squirrels in his backyard, was only a
vlogging series. Quote, "This is the
oddest pivot in content for a YouTuber.
I feel like at this point, this series
is just Ian doing yard work and getting
content from it. I can no longer tell if
this is a joke or if I had a stroke."
unquote. The comments, while still
engaged, were speaking of being confused
at the lack of purpose of Ian's content.
Yet, there were other comments realizing
that there was no purpose. Ian was
moving away from his profession as
Chester as Ian showed displeasure
towards these viewers. Are you watching
Idubbb Squirrel content? I DON'T LIKE
Idubbbz anymore. All he's doing is
playing with his squirrels. I like
Felix. PewDiePie is so funny. He makes
you news anyone. Uh, it's fun. It's all
good fun.
>> Ian did have ambition, just not with his
vlogs. On main channel Idubbbz, he
released Full Force, a documentary that
explores the day-to-day life of fallen
content creator airsoft Fatty. It is a
colorful and bizarre exploration of the
star airsoft Fatty that also makes it a
point to bring light to various
supporting characters that are obscure
in their own right. They all have
different motivations and key
personality traits that Ian fleshes out.
The documentary as an exploration of
airsoft fatty also exposes his lack of
aptitude in any regard. This extends to
house upkeep, cleaning, cooking
forthought. There is a looming feeling
of dread as Fatty will inevitably be met
with a terrible fate based on his
innocence and ineptitude. But Ian does
not further explore this. Instead, he
celebrates airsoft Fattie's innocence
and positive outlook on life, which
accurately highlights the tone Ian set
for the documentary. And the best words
I have ever heard have come from the
worst version of an old old cartoon used
to watch Yu-Gi-Oh. It's the most recent.
The main character states that his
father told him, "When you want to cry,
laugh. When you want to frown, smile."
Cuz it's like, "Why go around feeling
like [ __ ] all the time? Sure, you're
going to have your days, but get up.
Dust yourself off for God's sake. We're
humans. We're born to get back up."
Outside of the content cops, Full Force
is the most viewed video on Ian's
channel, and the top comments are all
engaging with the video as an isolated
documentary detached from Ian's former
work, yet also expressed frustration at
the smaller segments of viewers that did
not engage with the documentary in the
way he wanted. Am I the only one who
thinks uh Full Force is a Shane Dawson
content cop? Are you Are you mentally
ill? This reminds me a lot of a tagged
photo I saw on Instagram where someone
said, "Idubbbz did a documentary in only
a month." What what takes Shane Dawson
many months to do. Let me explain what
that sounds like in a more poetic way
that you might be able to understand.
No, I I can't have a girlfriend right
now. No, I can't have a girlfriend right
now. I have a job. I can't have a
girlfriend right now. I got a job.
Sorry. I work at McDonald's three days a
week. One could infer by Ian's lack of
content cops, his save the scroll
series, his last bad unboxing for what
would be several years that he was
taking a different approach. In late
2019, Ian uploaded world's largest toy
popper, creating a large toy popper that
amplified its destructive ability. It is
a video about trial and error and taking
this toy to the limit of what a human
can quote unquote play with. This would
sit as the third most viewed video on
Ian's channel. The top comments were not
only in full support, but also someone
understanding in the direction Ian was
taking his channel. Quote, "Man went
from bullying YouTube villains to
playing with rubbers." "Never in my life
did I think YouTube would promote an
Idubbbz video to number one on trending.
It seems like you genuinely enjoyed
yourself doing this, and you weren't
super cynical about it. Keep having fun,
man." Ian was succeeding in his
transition that could not have come at a
better time. In December 2019, YouTube
removed Content Cop Leafy, a casualty of
its new harassment policy and a warning
to anyone that would attempt to revive
that era of YouTube. This was an action
that did not need to exist to deter Ian
to returning to who he was. He was not
even able to fully realize a new
accepted version of himself because of
what would happen the following year. On
March 9th, 2020, at 10:36 a.m., Anissa
announced on Twitter that she was
opening up and only fans. While her
followers and allegedly Ian were
supportive, there were a fair amount of
people turning the situation into
comedy, making memes and looking further
into who Ana was. He was calling out a
YouTuber that no one liked, everyone
hated, and had a fan base of just
children. And now he's been reduced to
an absolute [ __ ] boy. Man, how does
this even happen? There's memes all over
this subre about how much he's a basic
[ __ ] And there's a lot of people that
are making summaries for why he's
getting this much hate. Whether this has
just turned into a meme or not, a lot of
people seem to agree. Like this video,
Idubbbz is a simp dubs. Play some kind
of sound effect, please. S dubs. Then
we've got, "Babe, it's 400 p.m. Time for
my only fan shoot." Yes, honey. You get
me?
>> They don't feel fake like already and I
I can't I'm really I don't like
extensions.
>> Does she have fake tits? Oh my god. No
way. So, she has faked tits. Honestly,
I'm not here to [ __ ] on her. I don't
care. She makes content. She has people
that enjoys it. That's all that gives a
[ __ ] Idubbbz, I just feel like he's
getting he's getting a bit he's getting
cucked. I just feel like he's just
getting a bit he's just getting cucked.
>> Ian's community at large were either
unaware or did not care, even though the
memes made it seem like they did, and
the YouTube search autocomplete appeared
to feed them. Overall, his channel was
hardly affected, but Ian was. If there
had to be a moment where Ian's
trajectory changed, it was this video
posted March 28th. Hello everyone.
Welcome back to another episode of
Idubbbz Complaints. This is a very
special episode where I get to tackle
two topics that I've recently become
very passionate about. That is a section
of my audience who thinks they know me
and my opinion on sex work. My
girlfriend started an Only Fans account,
which is a website where you can upload
amateur porn. anything from double
penetration all the way over to LWD
cosplay and everything in between. And
uh I think all of it is cool. Yeah, I
know. I I didn't think it would be a
controversial opinion either. A good
amount of people are just doing the
reasonable thing and just making jokes
and laughing about it, but there's a
whole another group of people who feel
personally devastated and betrayed. Ian
was making a video targeted at his most
deranged attractors, perhaps even just
1% of his audience. But his commentary
would affect more than just that
audience.
>> I don't know where you got the idea that
I was cool. Do you think it was cool
when I was when I was playing with anal
beads? It's cool when I play with anal
beads. Do you think it was cool when I
was running around in an oversized cop
outfit?
>> Quote, "You thought it was cool when I
was running around in an oversized cop
outfit? That was cool to you, everyone?
Yes. I thought it was cool when you were
running around in an oversized cop
uniform." In trying to challenge the
taste of a socially inept individual, he
was insulting his audience at large. The
split like to dislike ratio was arguably
not from the only fans, but from the
lack of understanding of how little his
audience cared on either side, as all of
the top comments do not care for the
drama or for the only fans. Ian also
made the mistake in showing that one of
the comments he was reading from had a
single like. This was possibly the least
thought out thing Ian has done on his
channel. A part of the issue is that he
overstates his own value and forgets
what his role was. The jester was a
public servant that could translate to
the public's grievances. Now, the former
jester called a town meeting where he
targeted the lower citizenry that
challenged his lifestyle while insulting
the public.
>> And then future jobs, they might be a
little bit harder to come by. I think
this is one of the most important
opinions to highlight because it really
demonstrates a severe lack of real world
experience when you're saying that
future jobs are going to be harder to
come by because of an Only Fans account.
Like if you think this affects your
standing or your social credibility in
getting jobs, you are so sadly mistaken.
Ian challenges the idea that employers
wrote background checks or that if they
did and would not hire based on sex
work, then the employer is immoral. And
I will also say if you want a morally
grandstand, one of the shittiest things
that I think you can do morally is
judging someone about what they did
previously and not hiring them even
though they're qualified for the job.
>> To close the video, Ian expresses his
desire to address the hecklers. Hecklers
that the crowd were now beginning to
appreciate. sell their body online
[ __ ] suck. That's the worst.
Instead of ignoring that and just moving
on with my lecture, it might be a better
idea to point those people out and say,
"Yeah, I actually don't agree with that
shitty opinion." Um, because it it seems
like me just ignoring it has led to like
a cultivation of a bunch of retards.
Following this video, Ian lost around
20,000 subscribers and greatly increased
conversation around Nissa's only fans.
The goal was to be more obvious with his
intent, perhaps to quell some
dissatisfaction. The result proved to be
the opposite. I think people are way too
[ __ ] invested in internet
celebrities, and it's just genuinely
pathetic. Now, I don't agree with every
point Idubbbz made in the video, and I
don't think that's a big deal. I don't
[ __ ] hate him because I disagreed
with a couple of points, and I think
overall this shouldn't have even been a
controversy in the first place. She made
$40,000 selling no nudity on Only Fans.
It's [ __ ] Instagram pictures. That's
genius. It's free money. And then people
calling Idubbbz a cuck about how she's
going to get a new boyfriend from Only
Fans. Are you out of your [ __ ] mind?
Do you think the Easter Bunny is real,
too? In this video, Idubbbz kind of
attacks his own fan base. So, obviously,
a lot of them are not going to be happy
with it. And I think that's why this has
so many dislikes. But guys, listen. It's
not all hate. There are a lot of fans
that are still defending Idubbbz and
even other content creators like
Idubbbz's good friend H3H3. He quickly
responded on Twitter saying this. The
war against the incelss has begun. Chad
Army represent. Even Leafy came back to
comment on this.
>> Yeah, I know. I dude, you're a [ __ ]
cuck.
[music and singing]
>> Out of all the videos, PewDiePie was
likely the closest to understanding what
was happening behind the scenes. For
someone that's been stuck in drama, you
know, what we're seeing is just the tip
of the iceberg. What Ian and his
girlfriend is going through is probably
10 times worse with people harassing,
digging through old stuff, private
messaging, all this sort of stuff that
kind of spirals up over a long time.
Yeah, it's frustrating. I'd be pissed,
too. And I think that's why that's the
reason why he comes across uh as if he's
pretending to be okay with this when he
really is not. And once it started
getting directed at both of us and it
was this wave almost like a a a content
cop level wave of hate that usually
would be sent someone else's way. When
he received that I think his brain
like had to like acknowledge like holy
[ __ ] this is what this is what it is.
This is what it's like. In some cases,
for it to really impact you in a big
way, maybe it needs to be like a like a
tragedy in your life, something very big
that like really moves that needle.
>> So, what was it for you?
>> For me, I mean, I would say like the
Only Fans drama moved that needle a
little bit cuz I was like, "Ooh, okay.
So, this is
>> So, are you saying it cuz your audience
was suddenly revealed to you as, wait, I
don't I don't agree with what you're
saying here?" They didn't just
automatically like uh understand that I
could have this opinion about my wife or
sex work or anything like that. This
content cop level of hate changed Ian.
He was reflecting less on the positives
of the content cop and more on the
negative feelings he gave to specific
creators. He was hating being a tool of
shame as he was now being shamed
himself. And unfortunately, like many of
his targets, he was stubborn to a fault.
>> It's good that you're this way. You're
very stubborn. You're not going to let
somebody tell you
>> like when you're doing something wrong.
You're going to like ride it out until
you come to a conclusion. Yeah. On your
own. You can't get him to do something
until he he'll just one day decide like
I'm going to do this. Um the other thing
she said is that you're a big sponge
empathetically. The people who used to
love him for that, for saying what he
believed in, no matter how it was
received, uh they now hate him for that.
Ian, just as Leafy did, could not ignore
the criticisms, even if they were only
produced to hurt him. Instead, a
resentment began to build.
>> And I think I'm realizing something.
>> I think since the Only Fans thing, you
have been
>> defiant,
>> being defiant with your audience.
>> Yeah, probably.
>> And I And I get it. It's frustrating.
Like you want to like
>> get them to stop being
>> Yeah. Well, especially when it's like an
amorphous blob of people with
>> all different opinions and you know,
you're kind of trying to figure out like
what is majority rule here.
>> Yeah.
>> Ian is stubborn, resentful, and foremost
changing into someone that was less
interested in his art and more
interested in enforcing the desired
perception. He was less and less making
videos that were impactful. And coverage
on him continued to be even less
charitable and more focused on Ana and
her history. his girlfriend
has been exposed. That's right. Some of
the best examples would be this video
that was uploaded on March 17th that is
starting to go viral now titled The
Secret World of Idubbbz's girlfriend by
Creep Show Art. And in this video, it
kind of highlights like her like
allegedly stealing art and like having
some bad takes about World War II on the
front page of his Reddit, which I
thought was fake, right? There were all
these tweets of Idubbbz's girlfriend
kind of tweeting at you and flirting
with you and thirst tweeting you and I
thought it wasn't real, but then Yeah.
And then I looked it up and I mean these
tweets are real. I mean there's a bunch
of tweets, but I think one of the most
damning one is uh one trolling me right
now, man.
>> I'm not. She tweeted at you in January
9th, 2016.
>> Jesus Christ.
>> Saying, "Why am I never in your videos?
Do I need to lower the cost of money to
get me to bend over?
>> Through the mostly negative coverage of
Ana, it was the H3 podcast that brought
generous perspectives on Ana's past.
However, Ana in June on her own channel
continue to fuel the flames.
>> Honestly, when I released Only Fans, I
didn't think anybody would care because,
well, aside from, you know, incels, but
a lot of people did care. Throughout the
rest of 2020, the IDB's channel was
losing tens of thousands of subscribers.
In July, he released his newest
documentary titled Ice Cream Man on
creator Dax Flame. The documentary set
out to get a better understanding of
what part of Dax Flame was a character
and what part of him was genuine.
Compared to Full Force, this was a far
different experience. Inexplicably, the
colors washed out. The documentary lacks
supporting characters, and a fair
portion of the documentary is building
up to a poorly conceived game show. Tax
Flame was much closer to a normal person
than Aerossoft Fatty. There was not much
chaos or a world to explore, and the
documentary likely suffered because of
it. Ice cream man stands at 7 million
views, less than onethird of the
viewership of Full Force. Then in 2021,
there were no videos on the main channel
until May. In all, Idubbbz TV only saw
five uploads for the entirety of 2021.
This could be because it was a busy year
for Ian. He had filmed a new documentary
that had failed to come out this year.
He had gotten married to Ana and he was
organizing a boxing event as explained
in his last upload of 2021.
>> If he's down, we'll make it happen. If
not, then he's a [ __ ]
>> Fast forward to present day, June 2021.
Not so not completely present, but this
year, Ricegum reaches out to my wife, my
precious wife. And you know what he
says? He says that Idubbbz is irrelevant
and that he's fallen off. Get him to box
me.
>> Ricegum had been wanting to box Ian
since 2018. It was only recently that
Idubbbz claims he became aware of this
and had been working to set up a boxing
event, even going as far as to get Lasic
eye surgery, only for Riceum to be
backing out, demanding a higher payment.
In time, this fight would completely
fall through. What remained was Ian's
passion to run a boxing event for
charity. While this would come to be, it
would face an expanding list of
problems. In the same way that Ian was a
tool to shame infamous creators,
infamous comedian Sam Hyde would be the
tool used against Ian. On January 8th,
2022, Sam Hyde released a video titled
The Truth About Idubbbz. This was an
hour 55minute documentary covering Sam's
side of a documentary Ian had filmed on
him, but had failed to release. Sam had
allegedly bothered Ian on multiple
occasions, both asking to be involved in
his boxing event and asking when the
documentary was meant to be released, as
several months had gone by since the
documentary was filmed in March of 2021.
in allegedly spending $15,000 of his own
money, mostly done to possibly sabotage
Ian's product. Sam was looking to Ian's
documentary to send attention towards
his diminishing online presence. There
are a few reasons provided early on in
the video as to why Sam believes Ian
will not release it, as most are tied to
the documentary not going Ian's way
because Sam is not like airsoft Fatty or
Dax Flame. Sam is not a socially unaware
anomaly. Sam became popular as a
comedian, but he also uses this to man
certain beliefs as he is possibly a
neo-Nazi. The moment one attempts to
prod at his genuine outlook on life, he
deflects it by answering in a
comedically dishonest way. So Sam,
understanding how Ian extracted
entertainment from airsoft fatty, set
out to make something almost entirely
ungenuine. He would not allow himself to
be made a fool in the same way former
subjects of Ian's documentaries did.
>> I think Idubbbz was kind of kind of
trying to punk me a little bit
>> and like make me look like a guy that
had like fallen off, which I have. like
I've fallen off like undoubtedly.
But [clears throat] I think he kind of
wanted to like he wanted to come out
here and see something depressing and we
like ended up making this kind of like
funny thing. Um stuff to buy. Lots of
alcohol, a bunch of Pokémon cards trying
to tell him what Pokémon is as if it's
some new [laughter] thing like crypto.
Sam is reading off the gaslighting
document, a list of ideas and set pieces
meant to create an absurdly chaotic
environment. a sort of test to see if
Ian would buy into the ridiculous world
Sam was selling.
>> The fake girlfriend, she she had she
shaved her head for this, she looked
[ __ ] totally wrecked. And she was
like going in Idubbbz's pockets, like
looking around in his pockets, trying to
feel around and [ __ ] The first few
minutes of them meeting, she walks up
behind him and puts her hands like this
in his back pockets [laughter] and he's
already uncomfortable like that.
>> She smashed it. She was so [ __ ]
>> No [ __ ] way. Best cast member. Just
this just this girl actress like an
actress type chick.
>> On day one of the shoot, Sam appeared to
have overplayed his hand as Ian was
immediately suspicious.
[laughter]
>> You guys aren't doing this every day
though. It doesn't look like this all
the time. This is
>> This is a show, right?
>> What do you mean? Like the mess.
>> Well, no. Just all the people all frame.
Like what?
>> It took only 10 seconds to convince.
>> Joy's my audio guy. Julie's my editor.
Evan's just 3D models. Chris does
writing stuff.
>> He's not
>> with Ian now in Sam's world. He guides
him through the disorganized office,
takes him on a ride on a vehicle he
rented and spars with him.
>> This is the other kind of [ __ ] up
thing is that he's doing like YouTube
boxing now and I'm I started this I
planted this seed in his head.
On day three, there is an interview, the
one-on-one that would be interpreted by
viewers in far different ways. Many
pinned the change in tone happening when
Idubbbz asked about a DMCA Sam had
issued years ago against Ian's channel.
>> What do you think?
>> Did I snub you or slight you or
something?
>> What?
>> What did I do?
>> You your memory is that bad?
>> Yes.
>> You don't remember?
>> I do not remember.
>> Okay.
Do you remember
>> what was it?
>> Do you remember making a Kickstarter uh
TV?
>> Yes.
>> Of uh Well, no, it wasn't Kickstarter
TV. You remember making a pony game?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. There were some creators at the
time who made videos about this fake
pony project.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Were you one of them?
>> I was one of them.
>> What did I do?
>> Do you have any guesses?
>> Did I say [ __ ] you or something?
>> Uh, no. You you copyright claim the
video.
>> Really?
>> Yes. And then you sent me an email.
>> That might not have been me. Oh, okay. I
sent you an email. kind of seems like
something that you would do. The email
was,
I will release the copyright claim on
your video if you can send me a video of
yourself squatting 200 lb below
parallel.
>> Why didn't you do that?
You'd be so much stronger now if you'd
done that.
>> Yeah.
>> Damn.
>> Did I create an enemy with that?
>> Really? How are you going to How are you
going to punk me? I'm going to make you
look like a like an [ __ ]
>> Really?
>> Which isn't hard to do.
>> Is that Is that really the case?
>> No.
>> Okay.
>> At time stamp 1 hour 12 minutes and 38
seconds, there is text on screen stating
that the interview ended 6 minutes
prior. This could be Sam signaling to
his audience that after Ian brought up
the DMCA and questions Sam about his
politics that he began acting expectedly
disingenuous. The rest of the video is
more of Sam guiding Ian through his
world. Ian, not pressured into releasing
his side of the events, released his
documentary on Sam the following month
titled Getting Away with It. Ian's
version included moments not included in
Sam's video. He also explains Sam's
style of communication in what he calls
the circle of irony, a moment that would
be criticized as a long-winded
explanation of Sam masking his intent.
This is tied to Sam masking his beliefs.
>> Ready to [music] be destroyed? He's
donated around $5,000 to the Daily
Stormer, [music] which is a neo-Nazi
website. And uh you don't really do that
as a joke, uh from what I've understand
about the world. So, with the context
that Sam openly aligns himself with the
alt-right and white supremacy and
misogynistic stuff, uh it's hard to
write off any of the ironic stuff is
just ironic.
Peace.
>> Earlier in the documentary, Ian even
petitioned Sam to queue his audience in
as to when he is saying something
sincere.
>> For the viewers, when you say something
like that,
>> if you're serious, you say 100% serious.
>> 100% serious. [music]
>> How about this? I say, "Baby, hear me."
You [ __ ] [ __ ] So now you know. So
now you don't have to guess because
you're autistic. So, [music] you need a
picture book guide to tell you when
someone's in a mood. Here's an angry
face.
Here's happy.
>> Okay, get your guide books out so you
know when people are in different moods.
>> This is only met with an insincere
lampasting. Ian wanted to find out what
was genuine and what was not, only for
Sam to reveal very little of even his
experience with him was.
>> Have you tried to get her any help?
>> Uh, no. Seeing as she's a girl, I paid
$500 to shave her head and pretend to be
my girlfriend. No, I haven't tried to
get her any help.
[sighs]
>> Should you want me to try?
>> Wait. Okay.
>> I don't know her that well. It's
probably not my business to get her off
drugs.
>> Also, I think I told her to put her hand
in your pocket and pretend to be on
drugs.
>> Shut [laughter] up.
>> You think I Are you serious? You think I
would date a girl that has her hair
shaved like that?
>> Yes.
>> You think I'm a [ __ ] mental case?
>> Yes.
No, actually, well, I've known her for a
long time. And um
>> this this is so upsetting to me right
now.
>> You think I would? I'm a [ __ ]
millionaire. You think I have a [ __ ] ass
office like this?
>> Shut up. [laughter]
This is your office.
>> Says who? You think I would [ __ ]
spill rock stars and Legos all over my
office like a [ __ ] animal and have 20
people in a [ __ ] dentist's office?
You know this is a converted dentist's
office, right? That's why there's like
paintings of like whales on the walls
and [ __ ]
Ian,
you silly guy.
>> The documentary ends shortly after with
Ian concluding he did not get to know
Sam as he kept his wall up. Ian also
believes this does not serve to benefit
Sam in any way. This would be the last
of Ian's documentaries. Sam will later
put out the belief that this was part of
Ian's grand ploy to get back at the
people insulting Ana. I knew from the
first email what it was because I knew
that he had been getting um he'd been
getting a lot of [ __ ] from like 4chan
right-wing type guys because of his only
only fans girlfriend. And so I I was
just, you know, game theory. What's
What's this guy thinking? He's thinking
he's going to the theist
mascot. He's going to make me look bad
so that he can like get one over on the
people that have been trolling him for
having an Only Fans girlfriend. In a
separate video shortly after the release
of Ian's documentary, Sam would fail to
deny his donation to the Daily Stormer
and going as far to say the documentary
was accurate and neutral. I think that
it's [music] accurate and neutral, his
documentary. Like he could have he could
have done made it snarky. [music] He
could have been, oh well, this is the
flip side. This is what actually
happened. Like he could have done that.
But the documentary was extremely
[music] well cut. It was neutral. It
represented what happened. Following the
release of the documentary, Ian set his
sights on Creator Clash, his charity
boxing event. In this video, Ian
announces creator Dr. Mike as his
opponent and states that the two main
goals are to make it as entertaining as
possible and to raise as much money as
possible for charity. In a Twitter
space, Ian commented further on the
event, stating Ana was also meant to
box, but had gotten a concussion and was
unable to. Additionally, coming off of
his most recent documentary, Ian was
questioned about Sam Hyde's
participation. We've worked with Sam
Hyde for a period and it was tough. You
know, he was wanting to put put on his
own show and he did and it was funny,
but uh he's not a super cooperative guy.
He's very unpredictable. So involving
him in our event just isn't a good idea.
I think most people
>> massive business risk.
>> I think most people would understand
that.
>> Yeah, it's a huge business risk. I mean,
we're getting guys signing to agree to
be within like seven pounds of each
other. I totally get that. But I just I
talked to Harley, right? Cuz Harley's a
big guy and who who could realistically
face Harley? Like you need another
giant.
>> I couldn't think of a rag tag group of
people that like Sam could probably box
with in the future.
>> The reason Ian and Ana supply to not
allow Sam to box is because he is a
business risk. He is uncooperative, not
brand friendly, and half of the boxers
would allegedly leave if he boxed.
Though only Dr. Mike is used as an
example. Later, Sam himself jumps into
the conversation.
>> I mean, I'm the guy that uh Idubbbz,
Would you say that I inspired your
boxing career?
[sighs]
>> No, you did not.
>> Okay. [laughter] Okay.
What? What did
>> Bryce Gum? He DM'd me.
>> Target right now is um Hassan [ __ ]
Have you heard of that guy?
>> We have. We have. I'm not a fan. not a
fan by the way.
>> Yeah, I think he's um he's uh he's
cruising for a bruiser right now and I'm
uh I'm [clears throat] going to put it
on him.
>> Sam likely did not know it, but Ana was
a massive fan of Hassan [ __ ] the
infamous [music] streamer Sam desired to
fight.
>> I think also on top of that, cuz I met
Hassan in 2016, we did like uh name's
Austin. Real name's Austin.
>> Austin show.
>> Austin show. And we were talking
politics and it was the first time that
I had met somebody that got it. Sam
Hyde, even in the Twitter space, was
antagonistic. [music]
While Ana was speaking about her
background, Sam was deploying tactical
laughing emojis.
>> Yeah, I I have a chiology background,
nutrition background, so I just I'm able
to kind of like
>> She was guiding me the whole time.
>> Yeah.
>> In April, Idubbbz released another
promotion for Creator Clash. This time
he was marketing the event not as the
typical influencer boxing, not something
haphazardly put together with creators
who do not know what they were doing or
don't care to follow the rules. He even
stated he was going to be making a
documentary of the process. [music]
There will eventually be a documentary
about the boxing event. You guys will
see how serious everyone's taking it.
It's we're not messing around. It's a
complete lifestyle change. And this
being a more serious event, Ian could
theoretically capitalize on it to obtain
higher paying sponsors. As with any
charity run event, expectedly the money
goes into paying for the arena, the
fighters, which mostly amount to $20,000
each meant to be used for training, the
broadcast crew for the pay-per-view,
etc. While Ian focused more on
explaining the charity aspects, Anisa
was selling the event partly as a
gathering of influencers. way more
exciting VidCon or like like I want it
to be like influencers can like care
about this and fans can care about this
and like you know watch it and have like
a buildup like maybe parties before and
like stuff like that.
>> Another motivation for this event was to
find out what the next thing was for
them. An inspiration that came not from
Joji's transition, but Ethan to his H3
podcast.
>> You actually said something to us that I
feel like kind of got our brain going of
like, "Oh [ __ ] we need to start
moving." It was like you were like,
"Yeah, I spent money on this set cuz I
knew it was going to make money and like
I knew it was [clears throat] going to
make it work. I'm not worried about it."
And we talked about hiring people and
stuff with you guys and like it was a
huge like
>> aha moment for us where we were like we
need to like
>> do something like the idea of us like
doing something like this is
>> Oh yeah, this is way bigger than we even
thought.
>> This event needed to succeed not just
for the charity but also to prove that
Ana and Idubbbz were working well
together and that they could set a goal
and achieve it. hitting Hu where he
knows that it's painful.
>> Yeah. That I've ruined his life.
>> You're basically the red witch who was
[ __ ] enchanted bewitched Stannis and
>> Well, he's saying you have no agency.
>> Yeah.
>> And he's saying that you're a witch.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, I showed up, you know, 2016 and
now here we are and Ian is doing
different stuff. Like Ian as a person
has not changed very much in like
regards to his like moral stance on a
lot of things, but like Ian and how he
feels about how he wants to put himself
on the internet has changed. But I think
that was going to happen no matter what.
>> That's what he always says.
>> That had to happen. Those videos, like
you said, now they were a hit pace and
when you look back at it, you cringe at
it.
>> Absolutely.
>> With fight night in May closing in,
there was stress building and fear of
what would happen if the event failed to
raise money. That would be the worst
case scenario is like you don't break
even, you lose money and nothing goes to
charity.
>> But everyone's calling it a charity
event. I feel like there was also Sam
Hyde. Would he sabotage the event? Would
there be retribution from not allowing
Sam to fight? Sam had already had some
direct but minor influence in the event.
He trained fighter Harley of Epic Meal
Time for a short period. Though it is
questionable how effective his training
was as Harley's main coach reviewed the
footage.
>> Were you guys boxing with boots?
[snorts]
I love it. Entertainment.
So, right now he's showing Harley how to
step into a right hand against a lefty,
but Harley ain't fighting a lefty. And
the guy standing in front of him, the
guy with the long hair there, he's not a
lefty either. So, this is completely
wrong. It's actually dangerous. Sorry,
I'm being a dick. I'm just saying what
I'm seeing.
>> Here, you know what I mean? Like a
little bit a little just a little bit
more weight on this leg than this.
>> This is [ __ ] wrong. This is
dangerous. So, right now, this dude is
showing him to put his head over his
knee. While your head is over your knee,
there's nothing good that ever happens
from that.
>> Sam was banned the night before the
event, as critter Brandon Buckingham
reported.
>> So, the night before the event, Sam was
banned from entering. He already had
flights, damn near $12,000 tickets, and
an Airbnb for not only himself, but his
entire crew, all gone to waste at the
very last second. And at no point before
the fight did Idub say, "Hey, Sam, you
can't come. I'm going to ban you." He
literally waited until the very last
moment, pulled his crew aside and told
them at a gathering of other creators
that Sam was not going to be allowed to
enter. And not only would Sam be banned,
but his entire crew would be banned as
well. It is May 14th, finite. Sam Hyde
and his crew have been banned from the
event. The event is being run by a
YouTuber who has possibly little to no
experience managing something of this
caliber. There are creators who formerly
had no boxing experience, and Ian has
set this event above other influencerrun
events. The stakes were high and the
fighters and Ian were stressed. [music]
Fight after fight, Ian's match grew
closer and nothing set the tone better
than airsoft fatty fumbling the national
anthem.
[cheering]
For so proudly we
got sorry I got nervous people. My bad.
Let's just do this. Let's [ __ ] do it,
RIGHT?
LET'S GIVE ANOTHER TRY. [cheering]
[applause]
Let's go.
>> [cheering]
>> Oh, say can you see
by the dwellers early light for so
proudly we stand
by the lights
through the
>> fatty would go on to fumble the national
anthem in additional time. But he had
succeeded in unifying and bringing the
crowd to life in a way that a performer
could only dream of. This event was not
perfect. It had its quirks. Some fights,
such as the dad versus Matt Watson
fight, were heavily one-sided. But that
was also the charm. This was an
imperfect event that aimed high. A
unified fighters and viewers. And if
anything, it proved that with enough
passion and care, even the biggest goals
can be realized. Even though Dr. Mike
had won, Ian had proved that he could
run this event. At 100,000
pay-per-views, this event will go on to
raise $1.3 million for the Alzheimer's
Association, the American Heart
Association, and the Healing Horse
Therapy Center. Even with the success of
the event, and outside of the knowledge
that it had raised that much money, Sam
Hyde continued to rally against Ian, but
mostly Anissa.
>> She's going to she's going to ruin his
life. I guarantee it. Mark my [music]
words. Mark my words. That woman is
going to ruin his life.
>> By chance, Brandon Buckingham was able
to catch Dr. Mike right after the event
where he revealed that not only did he
have no knowledge about Sam Height's
banning, he likely did not even know who
Sam Hyde was.
>> Did you hear that he banned Sam Hyde
from entering the event?
>> I did not. Why is that?
>> I don't know. I have no idea.
>> I have no idea either. Sorry.
>> He had like front row $10,000 seats and
then he said he couldn't come to the
event.
>> Oh yeah. Sorry. I don't know what to say
about that. That wasn't my call.
>> We have a sad Sam Hyde at home watching
us. You want to say shout out Sam Hyde?
>> Yeah. Sorry Sam Hyde that that happened
to you.
>> Thank you brother. Appreciate your time.
>> Appreciate it. Have a good one.
>> Even the sensible, kind, and intelligent
Dr. Mike knew that banning Sam Hyde of
all people from the event was the wrong
thing to do.
>> On May 23rd, Idubbbz released a new
video talking about the success of the
event and the potential for a creator
clash, too.
>> You know, make sure you give this video
a thumbs up because we really [ __ ]
killed it. Oh yeah, and I I think it's
also worth mentioning uh with the
success of this event, why not Creator
Clash 2? The following month, Ian would
make an appearance on Hassan Piker's
liveream where Hassan revealed he was
supposed to have a larger role in the
event. For those of you who don't know,
they're the creators of the creator
clash that we watched that I was
supposed to also attend, but I was too
much of a chicken to
>> participate to fight in it.
>> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. When I say
attend, I meant like fight, but then I
was like
>> also invited you to it to watch.
>> That's true. There is a possibility that
Sam's banning was tied to Hassan [ __ ]
He was a creator Anise looked up to and
was the target of Sam who had recently
formally challenged him.
>> You got anyone you want to call out in
the heavyweight division?
>> Oh, you know it, LAD. YOU KNOW THAT.
HASSAN PER, I'M COMING TO KILL YOU IN
LOS ANGELES AT YOUR HOUSE
>> OR IN THE RING?
>> NO, IN REAL LIFE, I'M GOING TO STALK HIM
AND BECOME OBSESSED WITH HIM AND WEAR
HIS MAKEUP. Hassan would not fight Sam,
citing the dangers in platforming him.
As for Rian, after the fight, he only
uploaded a few videos on Idubbbz TV. A
video about preers and a video about
fidget toys. The latter video performed
terribly compared to the Popper video.
Rather than taking something to the
extreme, he made something bizarre. A
Thanos molded popper toy with Orbeez
meant to represent the oil and pimples.
He also posted videos of the hot seat, a
podcast/talksh show style series
produced by Ian and had Dax Flame as a
host. But these were quickly removed due
to their poor performance.
>> And so that's when we decided like,
okay, we need to put these videos on a
separate channel that can grow its own
audience.
>> Maximum Damage. This was the channel
established to host the hot seat. It saw
its first upload starting 2023. Though
the first episodes would mostly break
100,000 views, they would eventually
fail to surpass 20,000 views on average.
Every one of Ian's projects or series
were either being abandoned or falling
in viewership. What remained was Crater
Clash 2. Ian announced the event in
January and set April 15th as a fight
date. He set Emily Arena in Tampa,
Florida as the location. This was a
large stadium with around 21,000 seats.
It was twice the capacity of the
previous arena. Ian had big plans for
this event. Yet the threat of Sam still
lingered as he continued to comment on
Ian Anisa.
>> What the hell is this?
>> Is that her last name?
>> He's taken her last name
brother.
They married in June with Idubbbz. His
last name changed from Washburn to JA.
Ian, as he did prior, would make guest
appearances on other channels to promote
the event. These are two of note. In H3
podcast episode 266, they spoke about
the financials of Creator Clash, how it
earned 1.3 million the year prior, how
soon they learned the event was
profitable, and why Anissa is still not
fighting this year.
>> So, last like year, it was like 95% of
sales were in the last like 48 hours.
>> The the pay-per-view. Yeah. I mean,
we're going to watch it, but I'm I'm not
going to pay for it yet. I played uh
men's lacrosse uh as like uh from 14 to
21 or 20. Uh I got a lot of concussions
from that. I have 11 minors and two
majors.
>> Ian's appearance or words here were not
at all protested. That much cannot be
said about his appearance on Smash
Alike.
>> Another thing that ended up um kind of
guiding the path a little bit. I did not
like the interactions that I had with
fans. There were quite a few human
beings that I interacted with
>> in person.
>> Yeah, in person that just sucked. They
just sucked because I attracted a lot of
people who suck. Some people were, as I
described earlier, were very much like
antisocial, weird basement dwellers. And
you know, the one time a month that they
come out of their cave is going to
restock on supplies at Walmart and they
run into me, their favorite YouTuber,
>> which is kind of the lifestyle you were
living at the time.
>> Yeah, exactly. I Yeah, I don't I don't
blame them.
>> And what would they say? What would they
do?
>> Things that I am certainly not going to
repeat. I'm talking bad words.
>> What Ian was describing were parasocial,
socially inep fans. Every fan base
contains sick of fans or detractors or
worse. George Miller had the same fans,
though he described them more generously
and rather than insult them made it a
point to appreciate their passion for
his work. [music]
>> When you think about the crazy faces to
face or the pranks with, as you put it,
the very elaborate fans, is there a
story that stands out? It's important to
have a fan base that is that in uh
involved [music] in you and I respect
that. Thank you. But yeah, sometimes,
you know, it gets a little gets a little
rowdy. In fact, the the only time um I
want to be approached is is when I'm
with a girl cuz it looks cool.
>> Ian's comments on his former fans was a
small scandal and threat to the event.
The larger looming threat turned out to
be no longer looming. In March, less
than a month away from the event, Sam
Hyde, as he had done the year before,
planned to partially train one of the
fighters being Froggy Fresh, formerly
known as Crispy Cream, Ian, unpleased
with Froggy's interacting with Sam,
reached out to him, and so began the
largest controversy leading up to the
event. Was there anything before that?
>> I think the riff started when um Sam
retweeted me
and I got a call from Ian, like a call
of concern. That was when the rift
started.
>> So, a Twitter retweet happened. Ian
calls you. What goes down on that call?
>> So, the first thing he said is like,
"Hey, so um I seen some stuff on Twitter
that's kind of concerning. Um, what is
your relationship with Sam Hyde?"
And I was like, it it put me it like it
put it rubbed me the wrong way like
immediately. The phone call didn't end
super cordially. It basically ended like
tense with me saying like, "Dude, this
is weird. I don't want to be
investigated." like like and then the
phone call basically ended after a few
minutes cuz I was like it felt weird
like I honestly didn't want to be like
on a phone call with them. So then I was
like if like so we texted but we texted
back and forth for the rest of the day.
These are the text messages that Froggy
is referencing. Text messages that took
place on March 12th. Ian states he is
trying to be proactive yet is indirect.
Froggy responds in not understanding the
issue implying that his motivation is
that Sam has been kind to him. Ian
responds stating that he has been hurt
by the things Sam has done. He is afraid
of Sam associating with the event and
that there are unnamed others involved
that are not comfortable with Sam.
Froggy retorts by emphasizing that this
is to a degree happening outside of the
event. And while Ian agrees that Froggy
can do whatever he wants in his private
life, he states Froggy is a
representative of the event. Ian
specifically cites Sam training Harley
last year and how that attracted a quote
unquote bad crowd, which Ian claims led
to harassment online. Froggy again
emphasizes that he exists outside of
Ian's personal concerns. Froggy is now
asking for a direct answer and what the
repercussions will be if he trains with
Sam. Ian fails to answer directly,
instead emphasizing Sam's harassment of
him and his wife. Froggy turns this back
on Ian and asks for understanding in
that Sam is Froggy's friend, so he also
has personal involvement. Froggy is
becoming displeased at the idea of Ian
forcing him to cut ties with Sam for
what is now being framed as a personal
feud. Then Froggy becomes irritated at
the lack of a direct answer. He's now
seeking a yes or no whether he'll be
kicked from the event if he trains with
Sam. The two begin to understand each
other as Froggy clarifies he only plans
to train with him and does not expect
Sam to attend the event, which appears
to be Ian's main worry. With this
understanding, Froggy again asks Ian to
be direct about what will happen if he
trains with Sam. Ian says he does not
know because he does not want to be
rash, which is where Froggy states he
plans to train. Ian responds with quote,
"I don't understand why you're talking
to me like this. I'm not trying to be a
jerk. I explained to you the awful
experience I've had with him. It
potentially leads to another year of
harassment for me and Ana. I can't take
this stuff lightly. Can you guarantee
that it's not going to end up affecting?
This isn't just someone I don't like.
This is someone who is dedicated to
disrupting an event we're running for
charity, harassing its two main
organizers and sending his fan base to
do his bidding. I just want you to know
the pain he's caused me, Ana and our
event." unquote. Ian's attempt to sway
Froggy failed. Froggy is direct with
this issue, stating that Ian has no
control of who he can and can't be
friends with and that he is going to
still train with Sam even if he means
being kicked from Queer to Clash. In the
final exchanges of this day, Ian
clarifies that he never said Froggy
could not be friends with Sam. He just
did not want content to be posted with
him before the event. Froggy responds by
stating that Ian has no control of his
life, especially when Ian has made
arguments in favor of himself rather
than the event. quote, "Sounds like your
personal problems are interfering with
your business." Froggy correctly
assessed the issue with not only this
exchange, but what predict the source of
virtually all of Creator Clashes 2's
failures. 10 days later, on the 22nd,
Froggy could be seen training with Sam
on Sam's liveream. And on the 23rd, he
further prodded with this video on
Twitter. If I don't hurt you beyond what
anybody could have imagined, I will be
so disappointed in myself
that I will
subscribe to Alisa's only fans.
>> On Twitter, Ana's mother in response to
a tweet about Ana being on the phone
alludes to replacing an imp. Froggy
quote tweeted this and another tweet. In
direct response to the IM tweet, Froggy
states, quote, "Better a imp than a
pimp. Shout out your boy, Idubbbz."
"Ana, come get your mom." Unquote. Ana's
mother would respond to Froggy claiming
he has brain damage and shrunken balls.
I got a text from one of the event
coordinators that was just like, "Hey,
did you get your email?" basically and I
opened my email and it was that
uh basically like a non-disclosure
agreement termination contract.
>> So you were then terminated because they
had decided you had disparaged the event
coordinator aka Ana.
>> Um I don't really know. It it said it
said it said I had offended event
sponsors. I I think maybe even
>> the official Creator Clash Twitter
confirmed that Froggy Fresh was being
kicked from the card and that they would
work to find a replacement for his
opponent, Chris Reagan. Creator Clash
failed to provide a reason Froggy was
kicked. On Twitter, creator Jitton
offered to pay $100,000 if Froggy was
put back on the card. There was an air
of displeasure swelling and nowhere to
vent it. On Twitter and Reddit, users
were voicing their displeasure at the
decision, believing it had something to
do with Froggy's ties to Sam Hyde. As
this was happening, Ana and Ian, as per
testimony of Ian's coach, were combing
through comments, taking note of
creators who were speaking in favor of
them.
>> And because the Froggy Fresh uh drama
went down, they spent the whole time in
my bedroom on Twitter reading all the
comments and it was the craziest thing
ever. And that's when I was like,
>> because look at them. They were reading
it and Ian was like, "Oh, Tiffany 465
says this. I think that's a great
comment." And then he says like, "What
about this comment?" It was the craziest
kind of people that stuck up for him and
didn't stick up for him. And then and
meanwhile, I'm like I'm like, "Hey, Ian,
the guy that you just met is fighting in
a world championship fight. Let's watch
this fight."
>> But he couldn't he couldn't even watch
the fight cuz they were so caught up in
like the the Twitter comments.
>> Yeah.
>> Creators like Nathan Barnett, known
online as dad, and Harley of Epic Meal
Time, were speaking in favor of Ian and
the event. Creator Clash on the 28th
doubled down, only providing this as the
reason Froggy was kicked from the event.
Quote, "There were several violations
made by Froggy Fresh during his tenure
with Creator Clash this year." As was
the case with Ian's text messages
directed at Froggy, the lack of clarity
in the statement led to more
frustration. Even those that approached
the situation generously would be met
with non-answers. Even Froggy was on
Twitter demanding clarity. Sam Hyde, now
assumed to be at the core of this
controversy, was continuing to jab at
Ian and Ana. this time by having a live
watch party of Ana's only fans, though
only him and his entourage could see it.
>> Does uh not to not to bring this up, but
does Anessa still have an Only Fans?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Really?
>> She was on Fansley,
>> right?
>> Cuz that's that was the sponsor of
>> Oh, the Creator Clash sponsor.
>> Is that his hand?
>> I don't think so.
>> What?
>> Whoa. Wait a minute. Don't be careful
what you say.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Don't say don't say anything.
>> I won't watch that.
>> Chris, get in the frame here.
>> Be nice.
>> It's good, right?
>> Yeah, it's real good.
>> What? This?
>> No. No, it's not.
>> No, it's not. Laker, get in the
background here.
>> I'm coming.
>> What's the spread look like?
>> I'm coming.
>> I'm coming. Don't worry. I'm coming.
>> What's the spread on like on a on a
>> Yeah. Go up. Go up.
>> It's a good spread.
>> Is it Is it really, Julian?
>> Yeah, it's not a bad spread. I've seen
worse.
I've seen a worse I've seen a worse
spread.
>> That's really That's not bad.
>> No, it's not bad at all, man. It's not
worth it, man. It's just not
>> The goal was to diminish Sam's
influence. But Ian, in attempting to
silence Sam, has only given him power.
This still was only the beginning, as
Ian's strategy, or lack thereof, would
backfire spectacularly. In April, Ana
would be targeted even more
aggressively. One of her videos was
re-uploaded with the title ID's wife is
cringe and where she recounts her
history of being sexually assaulted to a
remix of Last Resort by Papa Roach to
the melody of September by Earthwind and
Fire all while dancing and flipping off
the camera. This video would eventually
gain 4.1 million views. Conversation
around Critter Clash had partly devolved
into conversation around Froggy Fresh,
Sam Hyde, Ana Only Fans, the money
allocated to fighters, sex work,
speculation on why Froggy Fresh was
banned and so on. It had ballooned to
the point that even those only
interested in the event [music] would be
faced with the ramifications of the
ongoing drama as became clear on April
15th fight [music] night.
>> Sam Hyde situation uh security like I
said security was crazy at this event at
the creator only spaces all of that and
I believe that was mostly entirely
because Sam Hyde claimed that he was
going to uh show up with tickets that he
had bought with a fake name in a
disguise. I do know someone uh that was
that I met at this event who did have a
similar appearance to Sam Hyde and
apparently he was grabbed and questioned
by security because there was a sheet
with a bunch of photos of people to look
out for to not let in. I never got a
hold of this sheet but multiple people
saw it. Multiple people discussed it
with me. No one could confirm or deny
who was and who was not on the list.
Regardless of what you think of all the
Sam Hyde stuff with Idubbbz and
everything, I just think the whole thing
has gone too far at this point.
>> Paranoia of Sam Hyde attending the event
bled into every aspect of the event.
Last year, there were fans that dressed
up as Garfield. Ana had even taken note
of them and asked for more this year.
>> They were a fun character. Everyone
loves Garfield.
>> Wait, what are we talking? People show
up in Garfield.
>> Yeah, there's a lot of fanfare at the
event. People had signs. They painted
their chest. It was like a
>> What are we talking about?
At Creator Clash, someone showed up in a
Garfield furs suit in the crowd.
>> Crew outside of Creator Clash apparently
got banned from entering, right? All you
guys are not allowed in?
>> No, we're not.
>> What was the reason they gave you?
>> Uh, no face masks, but apparently it's
not in like the Amily Arena rules or
anything. So,
>> do you think it was a last minute
decision to ban face masks?
>> It was literally the head of security
told us that they they they have a
different policy than Amily Arena's
policy, but it was not posted on their
website. So, what do you think the
reason is for the last minute change in
policy regarding face masks?
>> One guy said that he suspects it could
be due to uh Sam Hyde some like it's
been going around Twitter that there was
some leaked plan for them to seek or
sneak Sam Hyde in. This is an
overreaction. I spent $800 buying all
the tickets for this event. I spent like
$450 on all the morph suits for this.
It's insane. It's like schizophrenic
levels of paranoia. The latter video
comes from creator Brandon Bunkingham,
who documented the controversy and
conducted man in the street interviews.
>> You should have let Sam come. You would
have had a lot more money for charity,
but different strokes, different folks.
>> What do you want to say to Froggy Fresh?
Froggy Fresh. Hey, man. Listen, I know
it's [ __ ] b word and a half that you
had to train for that amount of time
just to get kicked off, man. I just
singing prayers to you, man. I love your
voice. No homo.
>> You deserve better. You deserve better
than this. Brandon Buckingham and
creator Emplelemen made several signs
that they plan to distribute during the
event. As it began, there was no sign of
Sam Hyde. Shockingly, the arena was far
from packed. Even the segments the
pay-per-view stream elected to show
displayed in clear view the lack of an
attendance. If not the Sam Hyde debacle,
then it was clear that signs of low
attendance were putting further stress
on Ian and Ana. For the next five or so
hours, there would be 12 fights leading
up to the final fight between Idubbbz
and his opponent, Alex Usabi. Chris
Reagan was the fourth fight. As Froggy
Fresh was meant to be his opponent, the
best Critter Clash could do was to match
Chris with creator William Haynes, who
was 6 in taller and weighed 15 lbs more.
William won this fight.
>> Yeah, you got to give props to Chris
Reagan. I mean, he's brave.
>> Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's one way, I
guess.
>> Beyond the more passive signs of
rebellion the crowd was displaying,
fighter yodelling Haley after a victory
had this to say.
Now,
we all remember the fight at Creator
Clash one. It was probably the best
fight of the night. And in that fight,
you showed true grit. With Crispy Cream
being Froggy Fresh former alias, this
appeared to be a message of defiance.
What's more, one of the signs had made
it down to the floor seats. This is when
Critter Rusty Cage took a picture of it
and tweeted it out.
>> I see like some shenanigans going down.
I take a photo of it. It's just people
holding up a sign. It said Froggy did
nothing wrong. like
>> seemingly innocuous.
>> Yeah. Right. Right. Right. I go to this
like after event and Ana comes up to me.
She comes up and says, "That tweet was
really not cool." And I just apologize.
I felt kind of like a [ __ ] I was like,
"Why the [ __ ] did I apologize? What am I
apologizing for? I don't even know this
person." That's really not cool.
Honestly, Ana, it was very cool.
>> What do you think about Ana confronting
Rusty Cage for taking a photo of a
Froggy Fresh did nothing wrong sign?
>> Yeah, that seems like a major violation.
That seems like something that's really
uncool. A lot of people are getting hurt
because of that. A lot of people getting
hurt because of that. It's very uncool.
So, if I took a picture if I took a
picture of a sign that said Froggy Fresh
does nothing did nothing wrong, that's
kind of a an uncool move. That's not
cool. But if I'm your friend and uh I
give you a few days notice to go fight a
black guy that's uh way bigger than you,
that's actually a cool move.
>> It now came down to the main event, Ian
versus Alex Oabi. Though Ian had pushed
for this fight, even Ian's coach knew
his passion nor training rubbed to par
as he had shared his concerns prior to
the matchup.
>> Alexi had a ring in his backyard. He
moved a pro boxer and with him he'd
loved training. Ian doesn't and he's
like, "This is who I'm going to fight."
I'm just like, "This is ridiculous.
You're putting us in a hole to This is
the opponent you've chosen for the
second fight and yet you put us we're
we're so far behind on what we need to
do to show up to this event." But I
still had him in good enough shape to
where he was he outgassed him. He won
the third round. One judge had it a
draw, which means that he's won two of
the rounds on one judge's scorecards.
Right.
>> Ian would lose this fight.
>> What would you like to say to all your
fans and supporters that were rooting
for you here today?
[cheering]
>> I don't know. Um
a [ __ ] hard. I really appreciate
everyone. Uh, you know, I'm not I know
I'm not everyone's cup of tea, but I I
really do uh appreciate the support and
um uh you know, thank you for coming.
>> This loss was not the worst news of the
night. Ian and Nissa receiving the
initial pay-per-view numbers noticed
that they were in deep trouble.
>> But we're sitting there waiting for the
doctor to come in to stitch Ian's eye up
and we're trying to digest the idea that
we like only sold 50k pay-per-views. And
we looked at each other and we were
like, "Do you want to just like [ __ ]
>> kill ourselves?
>> Kill ourselves." Like literally like
there was like that actual like thought.
>> It was just like what the [ __ ] do we do?
>> Yeah. What are we supposed to do? This
is not
>> I have never felt so horrendous.
>> Yeah.
>> Like we're having this conversation
while we're waiting for the [ __ ]
doctor to come in and stitch your eye
up.
>> Yeah. It was one of those moments where
you're just kind of like
>> we did everything we could right and we
cared. Ian and Ana did much wrong. They
had the goal to remove Sam's influence
from the event. What actually happened
was a fighter was removed. His opponent
had a severe mismatch fight. There was
insubordination coming from at least one
of the fighters and certainly the crowd.
And lastly, this graph in Ian setting up
Sam Hyde as his antagonist. Sam Hyde
would have his best performing month
viewership-wise ever in April of 2023,
the month of Creator Clash. As a
contrast, this is Myth SocialBlade, a
fighter in the event. Not only did he
lose subscribers this month, he also
lost viewership likely to him removing
videos. Viewers cared about the story of
Creator Clash, the drama between Ian and
Sam, and Ian had shown himself to be
incapable of victory against Sam Hyde
against Alex Osabi and against a
pragmatic approach. Though there were
fans that were displeased with Ian for
changing content styles, as there were
fans displeased when Filthy Frank became
Joji, arguably more fans were displeased
at the fact that Ian was becoming
incapable. This leads to the financials
of Creator Clash. Ian and Ana wanted an
event following the fight to allow
fighters to celebrate and to decompress.
So, they threw a gala. They also want
fighters and VIP creators to have a safe
and comfortable stay. So, they rented
out an entire hotel.
>> Talking about that long before about how
they had to fly in all these people. Uh
they were first of all, they rented the
hotel for over 300 creators uh and flew
a lot of them in. When the first year it
was much it was much more scaled back.
We just had a couple floors um of like
some place like a nice sweet place, but
it wasn't extravagant at all. And then
the second year they did that full hotel
for 300 creators. They flew a lot of
people in. I got there and I saw the
hotel and I was like, "Oh." And then I
saw security and I was like, "Ah." And
then I saw YouTubers that aren't even
boxing. They have rooms and I was like,
"Okay." And then I see that there's a a
ceremoniously burning of the money the
next day and I was like interesting
everything. Okay. I I mean I I wish them
I this is I I put up a charity that I
cared a lot for. So I was like okay this
is pretty important. Um and I was
questioning every single decision along
the way.
>> Uh did he kind of walk people through at
one of these gala events going like hey
I'm pulling you aside. Uh unfortunately
the event didn't make any money
>> at the gala. No, we we had no idea. It
was fresh. It was brand new. It was like
they were the the the accounting, I'm
assuming, wasn't done at that point. We
found out like months later
>> and we had to sit there while we knew
that we had lost money.
>> Mhm.
>> And go through all of that.
>> Yeah. That was really painful just
hearing like having so many people come
up sort of asking, inquiring like so
like uh how' the event due like you know
what are the numbers?
>> Yep. And the response that I had to give
everyone was basically like, "Oh, we're
still still counting." You know, it
takes a little while for them to come
in. Don't have any official numbers yet.
>> Y
>> um and that was true to an extent. You
know, I could, you know, sort of hang on
to some hope that like, oh yeah, like it
continues to go on sale for the next 24,
48 hours, something like that.
>> Yeah.
>> A hotel to host 300 creators, flights
for those uninvolved, a gala. All of the
money meant to go to the needy was
wasted to celebrate the wealthy. If only
it ended there.
>> Cassan and all those other people was
going to translate to more uh buys,
pay-per-view buys.
>> And they didn't even promote. They
didn't even care.
>> No, it made no sense to me. I'm like,
people don't watch fights cuz Denzel
Washington's in the crowd. They're not
like Denzel Washington's there. I need
to watch the fight.
>> It makes no sense.
>> Hassan [ __ ] and his entourage did fly
out to Florida for the event.
>> [music]
>> Ana has stated she is a massive fan of
him and his group and Sam Hyde hates
them all. This could be a possibility if
not the reason Ian had pushed back so
aggressively against Sam this year. As
Ian would state that Froggy and to that
extent Sam Hyde were not matching the
quote unquote vibe of the event. A lot
of decisions before the first event they
like spoke with us about cuz I know
boxing. I've been boxing. I've been
around boxing my entire life. So I'm
like oh I could help them with all these
other things. And then for the second
event, I felt like they wanted to make
it much more like their own version of a
TwitchCon, their own version of a
VidCon.
>> That's what he said. Yeah.
>> He was really mad the first year that
like uh cuz she would always talk about
a certain group of people. It was like
somebody named Pokémon and all these
other people and she would always talk
about how she wants like them to be
there and she wants to be a part of
their group.
>> Many of these details would take years
to come out. For now, Ian was recovering
from the event and made an appearance on
the H3 podcast. [music]
It was here that they revealed that the
event had a massive pirating issue,
alleging that several Discord servers
had up to 30,000 people watching the
event. [music]
They also spoke about someone reaching
out to purchase Creator Clash and that
Ian and Nissa had not made any money in
the last 2 years. They did not take a
cut for the first two Creator Clashes,
but were encouraged to possibly take a
cut if a third were to happen. Ian also
wants something similar to what H3 has.
>> I uh I don't know. It's it's inspiring
to, you know, to see you and and the
whole crew uh, you know, build such a a
nice community. I I I
look forward to doing that for myself in
the future.
>> At the end of the episode, Ian teases
[music] Addie Content Cop.
>> Uh, on my main channel, I'm going to be
addressing controversies
and I'm going to be putting out
>> a
>> I'm going to put be putting out a
content cop.
>> Yes. Oh. Let's [ __ ] go, baby.
>> Looking forward to uh Oh, yeah. People
are saying it's the fabled content
[music] comp on H3.
>> Can I say something?
>> That's when I my fans fell before your
fans did.
>> My very first video I made on YouTube on
the Stariller [music] channel was why
Ethan Why Ian would never content cop
you.
>> So, and I was wearing Idubbbz's merch
with a Teddy Fresh hat.
>> And so, it's wild to be sitting here
with both of you.
>> Now, here you are.
>> Yep.
Ian did not release a content cop rather
a video titled addressing the froggy
fresh drama. In the intro of the video,
Ian lies by stating the event was a
success.
>> Hello everyone. Welcome back to another
video. Brief update. I [music] am healed
from Creator Clash 2. Uh it was a
success. Alex Wasabi beat me up.
>> Ian further in states he did not address
the Froggy Fresh drama sooner because he
did not want to jeopardize the success
of the [music] event. Uh, and that all
has to do with Froggy Fresh. The reason
I didn't address any of this sooner is
because I was terrified of jeopardizing
the success of the event because there
are a lot more people involved in this
than just Ana and I. Uh, and I didn't
want to [ __ ] it up for them. [music]
These are people that I really care
about. And I felt like it would be very
selfish if I was like, I understand
public perception right now, guys. I'm
just gonna make a quick 10-minute video
and I'll squash all the rumors. I'll
squash all the beef. I have no idea what
public perception for this video is
going to be. That's why I'm doing it
now. Right. As with Ian's decisions
involving Froggy Fresh, this video too
was poorly received. The top comment
reads, quote, "At times like this, I'm
so [ __ ] glad Filthy Frank broke away
and became a successful musician."
George Miller said goodbye to his past
in an artistic music video and through a
separate video in the theme of the
series. He gave his audience the chance
to engage with a goodbye, but also art
and entertainment as a vehicle for it.
Ian, in this video about removing a
beloved fighter from the charity event,
decides this is the appropriate time to
talk about his intent and former videos.
I need to bring you guys up to speed on
where I'm at as a person and as a
content creator. My philosophy for a
while was, well, people will figure it
out through the videos I make. But the
problem is the videos I make, I mean, I
sort of avoid speaking [music] from the
heart. I'm just going to focus on a
thing, on a piece of content. I I think
I have bad associations with sharing my
life uh on the internet. I'm like, no,
that that shouldn't be my thing. Like,
leave that up to the vloggers. But I
think it's important to share where I'm
at. So,
>> [music]
>> uh none of what I'm talking about in
this Froggy Fresh video feels like I'm
being hypocritical or uh [music] you
know, I'm misleading you in any way. I
think a lot of the content I've made has
been irresponsible and misguided and I
think I've hurt a [music] lot of people
with the content I've made. Uh, you
know, despite many people being
entertained by it, you know, I'm not
trying to take that away from you and I
think I've done a lot of bad and uh, you
know, at the bare minimum, I've just put
a lot of negativity out there in [music]
the world and I'm working on not doing
that. But in this video, that's probably
about all I can say on on any of [music]
it. I don't want to detract from what
the focus is. And the focus is kicking
Froggy fresh from the Creator Clash
card.
>> Ian then reveals the main reason Froggy
was removed was for collaborating with
Sam Hyde.
>> The one indication I gave him was Sam
Hyde, and I I wasn't unclear about that.
Anyone who's mentioning the fact that
Harley trained with Sam Hyde for the
year previous, [music]
uh, that was before Sam was saying this
about my wife.
>> Ian then plays several clips of Sam
crudely insulting Ana.
>> So yeah, now that this guy is on the
daily insulting my wife, I think it's
pretty fair to, you know, not [music]
want to associate with him in any way.
>> Ian earlier in the video said he did not
make a statement during creator clash
because he did not want to poorly affect
the event that involved others. Yet he
also cites his personal feud with Sam
Hyde as the core motivation for kicking
Froggy from the event. Not at all how it
could affect the finances and to that
extent the charities. Despite Ian
distancing himself from his past, citing
being a damaging person, he was showing
himself to be more selfish than he had
ever been. The rest of Ian's video
cycles through Froggy's crude comments
about the event and its culture. Froggy
calling Sam Hyde the most talented
comedian in live and Ian's reason for
kicking Froggy, which is still centered
around his personal feud. At the end of
the video, Ian makes this request of
Sam. This is my request. I would like
you to not harass me or my wife or uh
anyone that we're friends with. Also,
harassment encompasses all the little
loopholes. All right? You can't just
then like refer to me as a goblin
[music] and be like, "I didn't say his
name. I wasn't talking about him. I was
talking about a goblin. Uh, that's not
that's not acceptable.
>> 15 days later, Ian would expand on
changing as person in a video titled I
miss the old Idubbbz.
>> I've realized that I need to be crystal
clear about what I believe, so there's
no room for ambiguity. I am responsible
[music]
for creating a lot of hurtful and
damaging content on this channel. And
I've also created a culture of
uh apathy and I don't know a lot of like
cruelty as [music] well. I was morally
grandstanding and acting as if I am any
better than any of these people that I
was making content cop videos on.
[music] And I'm not. I'm a human. I'm a
real human who makes mistakes. And
[music] you know, I make a different set
of mistakes than the people I was making
videos on. But it doesn't matter. I
don't think anyone deserves that level
of cruelty or hate.
>> Ian appears to misremember his content
cops. While there were borderline
pointless ones, like the one on How to
Bring It Up, the effective ones existed
to penetrate a barrier the most
egotistical creators had set up. [music]
The ones that survived their shaming had
to embrace the criticism and separate it
from hateful viewers that only desired
their failure. Tana was an example of
success. Leafy was an example of
failure. But Ian had not reflected on
the outcome for some time. He then
presses on about wanting to succeed
based [music] on his personality and his
lack of confidence around it. Ian also
gives a blanket apology and a direct
apology to Tanamojo. I'm not confident
in my ability to entertain. And I think
if I had to rely on my personality
uh to [music] entertain people that I I
wouldn't I wouldn't have any amount of
success. I was being very bigoted in a
lot of my videos and I justified it
because, you know, I didn't think it was
too serious and I thought that people
were going to see that I had good
intentions, you know, but that's so
silly. You know, casual racism is still
racism. [music] Casual bigotry is still
bigotry. I'm sorry to everyone that I
made content cop videos on. I [music] I
still don't like the majority of you,
and that's fine. But I can recognize
that you did not deserve the hate
[music] and harassment that I sent your
way. Outside of his videos, Ian often
did tweet racial slurs or threats of
assault, if only for the sake of being
offensive. He is delisting all of his
content cops, only allowing them to be
accessed through user reuploads or from
this Google doc he set up. Ian also
states that any revenue from this
apology video will be donated. Halfway
through the video, Ian gets to the other
part that changed him, the part that
exists outside of Ana receiving
harassment.
>> Now, I want to talk about [music] events
and situations that have happened over
the past 5 years of my life that have
[music] led me to the place I'm at now.
One year I was at a convention and a
bunch of fans were, you know, wanting
pictures and this particular fan came up
to me and said, "I know you probably
don't like transgender people, but can
I, you know, get a picture?" That
smacked me in the face. I was like, "Oh,
holy [ __ ] Why would you think that?"
But, I mean, it was fairly obvious. I
was being cruel, hateful, bigoted, and
uh being very uncaring about people's
feelings. That is a very fair assessment
to make.
>> Ian later in the video addresses this
controversial clip from the Anthony
Padilla podcast
>> and it's me calling my fans antisocial
and basement dwellers and I was like I
didn't like you know interacting with my
fans. I just want to be clear like I
that was my realization. It was my
realization upon you know meeting more
and more fans that I was like oh [ __ ]
you guys are are struggling. It was easy
for me to identify them struggling when
they were outside of my body. But the
antisocial basement dwelling incel that
was inside here.
Uh I I couldn't acknowledge that. I
couldn't recognize that. So I needed the
mirror to be held up to me. Uh I think
only in these past couple of years have
I gained the ability empathy. And it I'm
very ashamed to admit that. It sounds it
sounds really pathetic to say at the age
of 32 I've acquired empathy, but I have
and I've realized it because I just like
can't help myself but uh like feel for
other people's pain and suffering. Now
>> Ian then makes a massive mistake. And uh
I just want you guys to know that uh you
can unlock ability empathy if you you
know experience more life. It might take
you getting hurt a little bit but uh
it's worth it. It is so worth it. In his
arrogance he professes that his audience
can too learn empathy as if his audience
at large was the void of it. There is a
glaring issue here that Ian has failed
to consider. He changed not based on the
common man but because of the
parasocial. the fans that lack the
ability to interpret or have innate
curiosity. He changed because socially
inept antisocial fans came up to him and
acted in a inarguably antisocial fashion
by spouting racial slurs in a public
setting. He also changed because a
possibly parasocial fan as there are
many at conventions believed Ian to be
an innately hateful person. Even Ana in
the past understood that these forms of
fans or detractors should not be
considered. Oh my god. Me and Ian had
the most uncomfortable [ __ ]
interaction at like um we were on White.
We were in one of the shops and these
two girls come up to us and like they're
excited that Ian was there which is like
great and cool and whatever but like one
of them was like just like looked at
Ian. She's like I [ __ ] hate that [ __ ]
Tana and Ian's like holy [ __ ] Like cuz
it's like what the [ __ ] It was like we
didn't know how to respond. Like Ian's
like, "Oh yeah, cuz like what it's like,
yeah, I made a video on it because it,
you know, I I didn't like her being
hypocritical, but like he doesn't hate
Tana. He [music] doesn't hope that Tana
dies in a hole."
>> What do you want? Okay, so yeah,
exactly. It's like I just think I just
think these people are dumb.
>> Yeah. Like far
>> Yeah.
>> Despite Ian being heartfelt, viewers
interpreted this video and his overall
changed in different ways. [music] Some
simply boiled the hate to Ian no longer
being edgy or bigoted. Others gave a
breakdown of his history and how Ian is
not disliked for a single event, but for
a compounding list of transgressions.
[music] What remained true was Ian was
more hated than he had ever been, as
would continue to be the case. Some of
the top comments on Ian's video point to
his decline being based on his inability
to be funny rather than offensive.
Quote, "You weren't funny because you
were offensive. You are just a funny
dude. You can be the self-aware you and
still be funny. I don't miss the
cruelty. I just miss the effortless
humor. I miss when you can make opening
a box entertaining for 9 minutes
straight. The [music] content doesn't
need to be apathetic and cruel. What I
miss most is the ridiculous and shocking
nature of them." The following day, H3
streamed and spoke to Yen moving on to
whatever his new form is. This could be
the moment Ian makes peace with his past
to focus on his future as Ethan claims
he went through something similar. He
he's unlisted all the content cops.
I think he was a little hard on himself
in that, but I totally [music] respect
just wanting to own it all and move on.
>> Yes.
>> Like he's just full out, you know, palms
open, just let I'm not hedging my bets.
I'm not making any excuses. It's just
all down.
>> I Yeah, I watched it yesterday, too. And
I personally feel like this is what I've
wanted to see from him for so long. When
you come through on the other end,
you know who you are [music] and your
fans know who you are. And now I've
never been more honest.
>> Mhm.
>> I've never been more [music] authentic.
And the fans that watch, they like me
for who I am,
>> right?
>> Who I really am. And I can say what the
[ __ ] I mean always. And I don't have to
do what like Charlie and Boogie's
[music] doing where I I don't have to
like say it all.
>> Cater to some people. So, you got to
worry about how you phrase yourself.
>> 100%. Exactly.
>> Charlie also spoke about Ian's video,
[music] speaking more to Ian's strategy
of change and that Ian was accepting the
worst of his perceived crimes as if he
was always meaning to be racist. I'm
sorry to immediately come in here with
the Phoenix Wright objection, but I
completely disagree with the sentiment
that it's weak or passive to change your
content and expect people to see that as
a reflection of yourself. That's pretty
much the optimal way of handling any
kind of situation when which you're not
comfortable with either your audience or
the content you've been making. By
changing the content over time, you're
changing the audience over time as well,
obviously, right? It's still, I think, a
little ridiculous to make it seem like
it was this big of a deal that it
warranted a whole apology video in which
he makes it seem like he'll never truly
find forgiveness and he'll never forgive
himself for it for saying the slurs in
the videos and making the content. and
he did because again like he's talking
about it like he's a [ __ ] reformed
racist like he was actually a racist and
now he's not when I don't think that was
the case. Charlie's video was poorly
received. Quote being quote unquote
ironically racist can and will attract
genuine racists. Making a 21-minute
video about how his 10-minute apology
was too much and unnecessary is peak
irony. [music] This is so tonedeaf and I
hate that you can't see the damage he's
done and accept that he was wrong.
On Charlie's Reddit, users echoed these
sentiments. Quote, "I was like 15 when
Content Cop was popping, and it had a
direct effect on me and my friend group.
It made us feel like using certain slurs
was a lot more okay than it was."
These comments emphasized that while
Idubbbz may not have been looked upon as
a racist, his content [music] did
encourage them to engage in what could
be considered antisocial behavior. As
for the content cops and Ian's apology,
this is what Tana had to say. I'm not
talking about anything in regards of the
things he said, but I'm I'm [music] more
so just talking about like his actions
to me, like, you know, him showing up to
my show, him [music] kind of putting me
on blast, him inevitably making me kind
of cancelled and [music]
>> lose subscribers and have to apologize
and all that type of stuff. I I kind of
think I like deserved that. [music] And
maybe that's like dark like to say, but
like I don't feel like I'm owed an
apology. And maybe that's because I've
accepted it so much that like people
always ask me if you could go back in
time and like make that never happen
like would you? And I always say no. I
think I would be a completely different
person if I [music] didn't have that. I
think it like I was on track to just be
so on my high horse and like egotistical
and [music] like nothing could go wrong
that something going wrong gave me such
a dose of reality that like this might
not last forever. Like
>> yeah,
>> you need to be held accountable for
actions.
>> There was conversation about Ian's video
for quite some time. In the meantime,
Ian opted to stream but would not find
much success. Keemstar in [music] a
tweet compared Ian's viewership to his
former rival Ricegum who outnumbered his
viewership by nearly 20 times. And
though Ian had made amends with the
past, it was now the present that was
haunting him as demonstrated by this
video uploaded in July. Hello everyone.
I have some bad news to share with you.
Uh I [music]
really don't want to share it. I I feel
terrible. Uh this year has been a rough
one. [music] But uh this is the path
that I chose. So, I think it's best to
be [music] transparent for Creator Clash
2. You know, despite it being a fun
event [music] and despite good fights
and a lot of creators sacrificing a lot
of time, uh, money, and energy, uh, we
lost [music] $250,000 on the event.
>> Ian then explains why he thought this
event would do well.
>> [music]
>> He thinks it was because he brought on
more fighters, invited influencers, and
because people were aware of the first
Creator Clash, then they would be
seeking out information on the second
one. The top comment on this video
reads, quote, I felt as if I didn't even
really hear about Creator Clash 2 until
it nearly had begun. [music]
Meanwhile, for the first one, there was
a lot more hype generated and
advertising done.
Ian did release several videos promoting
Creator Clash 1. [music] These three
alone add up to 5 million views. Then
these are videos where Ian promoted
Creator Clash 2. [music] Together they
don't even make up 2 million. The
marketing was certainly an issue as
creators were not contracted to promote
it. This could also be a reason why an
event that ostensibly doubled in size
failed so terribly that it only got
50,000 pay-per-view purchases. That is
half of the first Critter Clash. Ian
also claims pirating was a large issue.
>> We didn't have any antipiriracy
measures. We [music] weren't prepared to
deal with uh what ended up happening.
Amongst the 800 pirated streaming sites,
[music]
there were between 1.3 and 3 million
viewers.
>> Ian then moves on to expenses. He lists
the larger arena, a larger broadcasting
team, [music] the entire hotel he rented
out, and the gala. We also had events uh
the day before the fight and the day
after the fight so that you know
fighters and [music] friends and family
could come together and uh process their
trauma. Yeah, some of these things that
might seem extraneous u in my opinion
were entirely necessary and I wouldn't
uh I wouldn't change it for the world.
Uh I also I mean as evidenced by the uh
by the pay-per-view streams uh it
wouldn't have made a difference. [music]
The creators at this event did not know
the disaster they participated in until
much later. [music] Ian would end up
eating the $250,000 loss. And to fund
raise directly for the charity, he would
upload the full Creator Clash 2 [music]
stream, which ended up performing poorly
compared to his other videos. And
separately, Ian would do a 24-hour live
stream to raise money. [music] The live
stream, as per the green number on
screen, ended up raising a total of
$141,000.
That is also where this clip comes from.
who's millennials in their IBS. I swear.
[music]
>> Okay,
I'm back
and I'm watching this [ __ ] insane
Tik Tok.
>> Well, I want to ask Rajar a question
first.
>> Okay,
>> Rajar.
>> Wait, we should get Rajar in here.
>> Okay.
>> I mean, if you can.
>> Well, if you [music] can. I just want to
ask him if you've always been [ __ ]
your pants.
No,
>> cuz since I've known you, you've [music]
always had like IBS. You've always been
[ __ ] yourself.
>> Yeah, well,
you know, viewers would take this as Ana
humiliating its on Twitter. She stated,
quote, "Shitting pant is not a literal
term. It's just an expression for
someone who has tummy troubles. [music]
It was me asking his best friend in chat
if Ian always had stomach issues. You
guys just take everything out of context
to fit your weird narrative."
>> [music]
>> unquote. This would not be the only time
Ana would speak on Ian's bowel
movements.
>> We had stopped for Tim Hortons and he
had gotten donuts and a double double.
In Canada, we don't use oil-based
creamers. We use cream creamers. [music]
So, the combination of the the gluten
from the donuts plus the [music]
uh lactose caused him to have an
emergency. like he had to [music] like
stop the car
and like he thought he was going to have
to go in the woods cuz it was so bad.
>> As was the [music] case in 2017, Ian's
fans, now more so detractors, were
coming through Ana's stream looking for
similar content.
>> Oh [ __ ] I clicked it. [ __ ]
That's what you get for clicking on it.
A barrage. Ana could be seen on Twitter
arguing with other creators. Eventually,
she expressed the desire to delete her
Twitter. Instead, she deleted that
tweet. Ana and focusing on addressing
her detractors was making sure those
people would continue to be in her
audience. As for Ian, it was late 2023
that something definitively had changed.
[music] Today, we're going to be ranking
and reviewing these Cheeits using the
Spectrum,
the generational spectrum. When I
[music] watched it, when you were done
editing it, I was like, "Oh, holy shit."
Like, he's figured it out.
>> Mhm.
>> Because I couldn't say anything [music]
to you about the energy change
>> that you had decided to kind of like not
even I don't even think it was it was
subconscious, I think. But the last like
>> couple of years, I would even say
[music]
>> your energy has shifted in your videos
and people would say it. So, when I
watched it and I was like, "Oh, holy
[ __ ] he's figured it out." I was able
to like bring it up to [music] you like,
"Okay, now go look at the Cheeit video
and like tell me." [laughter]
>> The Cheeit video is such a great
example.
>> You can see the difference between this
one and the Cheeit video. And you
watched it and for the first time you
were like, "Oh yeah, there it is."
>> It's so [ __ ] weird.
>> It's so weird cuz I It isn't in like it
wasn't in my face at all.
>> Like I can see it now. I can see the
difference. And it's it's really [music]
kind of sad because I don't it's an
energy and it's a vibe and it's like,
you know, if if I think [snorts] that's
what a lot of people have been picking
up on is like, oh, the vibes are off.
>> Yeah.
>> I think it's important to, [music]
you know, care about the content that
I'm making and care about the impact
that it has. And I made that choice.
[music] And it kind of hurt to realize
like, oh [ __ ] like now now everything's
different or whatever. It was low energy
Ian fumbling through boxes of CheezIts,
ranking them on an arbitrary rating
system not based in comedy or
commentary. Ian had likely become so
afraid to offend to say anything that he
had regressed to saying nothing at all.
Even the tamest bad unboxings were a
commentary on the unboxing trend at the
time.
>> Bro, these are insane. These make you go
geyser mode.
quote, "I'm glad that Idubbbz is keeping
his content fresh with revolutionary
bits like geyser [music] mode. I
honestly don't know what audience
Idubbbz is for now. This is postmodern
Idubbbz." Ian did try to bring one of
his series back, which was legit food
reviews. In this video, he would eat
what appears to be a condiment off
forest foliage. Though this was a series
built on critiquing food reviews, and
the large-scale criticisms of those
channels had long passed, viewers were
far more receptive to this video. quote,
"Idubbb's challenging the limits of his
immune system like the good old days."
Unquote.
>> That was one of my main concerns is I
was like, I don't want to come back and
just do the same [ __ ] Yeah.
>> That I've been doing cuz that feels so
Uncle Rico and so like lame.
>> But that's the thing is that people want
that. They want you to relive their
childhood. When they see that pairing
that, you know, that group together,
they're like, "Oh, just like old times."
So, like they they expect to see the
same [ __ ] again.
>> Yeah, cuz I was even apprehensive about
doing like a legit food review where I'm
goofing around in the woods.
>> I know.
>> I'm just like I don't know. Like I'm
[ __ ] 34
>> and I I had to pull teeth to get [music]
to do that. [laughter] Like you really
want to
um stay true [music] to like your
beliefs and who you are and and you've
always been that way. And I think that
like comments were coming in and saying
these things and you felt like [music]
you don't know what's right for my
channel. You don't know what's right for
me. And that's just you period. Like if
I tell you to do something, you're going
to be like, you don't know what's good
for me. I'm going to do the opposite
thing. And I think that that is what has
happened between you and like your
viewers is like your viewers are like,
"Well, to stop doing this." And then
it's almost like you're like, "I'm going
to do more of this." [music]
>> Ian is still stubborn. There are
detractors for certain, but there are
also viewers that want him to succeed.
There is this dichotomy in claiming that
he is empathetic and has elected to
understand people. Yet, when others
reach out, he builds barrier upon
barrier to not internalize what they are
saying. As viewers have expressed, they
want faster paced, more captivating
content. They want less of Ana and more
Idubbbz. He did the exact opposite of
this with his newest podcast titled She
Ruined My Career. Yeah,
>> she ruined my career.
What do you think about that as a as a
podcast title? I mean, we've already
discussed this plenty.
>> Yeah.
>> For for you and me, this is the, you
know,
>> Yeah.
>> This is typical.
>> I think it would be Well, would it be
nice to like cue people in on that
>> like a little bit more self-aware kind
of
>> I [music] think so
>> topic. I think that it is important for
people to understand that like it's not
coming from like a
like a self-defense
type of um
place, which I think some people do
think that's where it's coming from,
>> but it's more so coming from like I love
the idea that one day no one will have
any idea
>> what that means,
>> where it came from,
>> right?
>> I just think that's cool,
>> right? Um, like right now everybody
knows where it came from, but I would
like like I'd like to think like in 10
years we're like Joe Rogan level,
>> right?
>> And then everybody's like I Yeah, it's
just the name. I don't know.
>> Right.
>> The fem fam fatal lore that like you see
in fiction a lot. I think I want to
clarify like
>> she ruined my career was not my idea.
>> Yeah. Like that was that was your
>> that was me decision.
>> And you were very passionate about it.
And like I've learned over the years
that when Ian gets really passionate
about something, you you just you have
to accept it.
>> Mhm. This was a name chosen as a quote
unquote tongue-in-cheek comment on how
Ian and Nissa are sometimes viewed. But
this was also a challenge in aiming
their podcast to be a success akin to
the Joe Rogan experience. It gives
motivation to detractors to not allow
this to happen. Rather than upload this
on its own channel, they began uploading
it on the Maximum Damage channel. The
same channel the soontobe defunct Dax
Flame hosted Hot Seat. This podcast
would end up being a grand failure. It
would not even be the most popular talk
show on Maximum Damage. The episodes
would continue to be criticized, which
caused Ian to dig his heels in further.
what it is. I I think in general is it's
just me being uh flippant like a bit
like um
like instead of like accepting the fact
like oh it is true like I I'd maybe hear
a comment like bro looks [ __ ]
labbotomized in his most recent video
he's talking so slow and this and that
or like on the podcast and I'm like
>> I I would be flipping. I would be like
well you don't know what you're talking
about. I literally like all these videos
you've been watching of like bad
unboxings and things like I cut that
[ __ ] up to a disgusting degree and it
makes me appear very quick
>> and it makes things like uh it just
makes the whole thing a lot more like
captivating like you can't look away.
[music]
>> And so when something is like a bit more
calm I'm like no but that that was like
I intentionally did that. And so instead
of being like fair point, it does come
across that way. Uh I'll take that into
consideration for you know the
audience's sake. Uh I became I think a
little bit um
>> belligerent
stubborn.
>> Ian was correct in his assessment. He
was belligerent. Hence his first video
of 2024.
>> On today's episode I'm going [music] to
be complaining about the
>> cardark. Now, if you're not familiar
with Cardarks, uh it's basically this
guy Sebastian [music] who works for a
radio show who had the idea to shame
people who aren't bringing [music] their
carts back to the cart corral. Dingd car
doors, spots taken up, grocery prices
raised sky high because employees have
to go out and spend their time hunting
down carts. We are publicly shaming
those dicks who don't take back their
shopping carts.
Cardarks. Cardark. You You curved your
card. You didn't take it back to the car
coral where it belonged.
>> Ian was making a video on the channel
Cardarks, a public shaming of those who
do not adhere to a simple social norm.
This at its core is a very simple yet
effective shaming. The Cardinal makes
the simple request that customers put
their cart back and rather than eat the
shame, some customers become belligerent
and make the situation far worse and
more entertaining for the Carter's
viewers. Ian does point out that the
cartonarch himself can be crude and will
continue to harass victims until they
leave.
>> To pretend that Agent Sebastian isn't
being an [ __ ] and he isn't being an
unreasonable piece of [ __ ] Like come
on.
>> So you're harassing people and leave
their carts.
>> Polite ask. We're not a harass. It's a
polite ask. We're we're we're sweet and
loving about it. Like his lazy bones in
a couple other ways. It's oral hygiene
and such. This is the thing with these
lazy bones sympathizers and crackhead
kids. Like maybe you were like just off
homeless dudes all day. That's why
you're tired. Is that why you're tired?
From giving out to homeless men for
charity cuz it's a charity thing. We're
we're we're sweet and loving about it.
Very polite.
>> The car will often push further by
applying magnets to their cars. The
channel delivers what the condant cops
did, a shaming and outlet for viewers
own grievances. Though Ian takes issue
with the Carter's content, Ian does
something far cruer than what the Carter
does. He takes away the victim's agency.
Yes, it's very easy to call these people
unhinged. Another word you can use is
disabled. Their brain isn't working like
yours or mine. For some people, they
feel like they have to answer the door.
If it's really worth it for someone to
not take the cart back to the cart
corral, their life is not [ __ ] roses.
Their life is not pleasant. Ian having a
building detractor base deny him agency
by pinning Ana as his handler is the
same line of thinking and believing that
the caror's victims have no control of
their actions.
>> That's another comment we get here and
there is you don't know what was going
on in their life. They must have had a
terrible day.
>> I think that guy had some serious stuff
going on.
>> Yeah. I
>> regardless of your interaction with him,
I think he I don't know what it was.
Mental either mental issues or
>> Well, it seemed like he was a contractor
or something like he's seemed to be
gainfully employed. Uh but yeah, maybe
maybe not. My my motto is no violence
whatsoever. People say, "Well, why don't
that was a that was a small guy. You
could have taken him carts." Like,
that's not the point.
>> It's for me to beat guys up, but this
guy was such a like little guy and I was
I was like, "Okay, I'll let him swing at
me once, but I was it was overheating
cuz it was like 105°."
>> That sort of like flippant behavior
makes me want to [ __ ] It makes me
want to be violent. It makes me want to
be very violent.
>> Ian has not changed. He has not
developed empathy as he has toted. Like
in his content cops, Ian makes all the
considerations for the wouldbe victim
yet completely fails to consider who the
carner could be outside of his channel
or podcast. His cherry-picking moments
to favor his perspective as he had
always done. [music] I know because I've
made the same videos and I feel not the
exact same videos, but I I uh I
understand essentially picking out the
right thing to target [music] so that
people don't have sympathy for the
victim or the
>> you know how to provoke someone to have
behavior in front of the camera that
will
>> right
>> cause a reaction with the audience. It's
essentially a sweet spot where it's
like, you know, given like a slightly
different set of circumstances,
Sebastian wouldn't uh, you know, be one
called like a they say it a bit
ironically, what a hero. Uh, he wouldn't
be called a hero and these people
wouldn't be like super villainized for
leaving their card out.
>> Yeah, it's the Karen phenomenon as well.
I I you know of the videos that I've
seen there are times when I'm thinking
that person either is being triggered.
It doesn't justify their behavior but
they're not in their right mind one two
they could literally be suffering from
psychosis or schizophrenia or something
like you know there's a percentage of
people and
>> well that's what he says. He says that
uh [music] you know uh not all
disabilities are visible so I can only
go with what I can see. Ian uses a
one-sided argument that if used on the
card would make his argument fall apart.
Should Ian apologize to Keemstar or even
Leafy because perhaps their actions were
caused by mental illness? The Cardinal
could also be mentally ill. What this
video exposes is that Ian does not
envision himself as the hammer, the
card, but rather his victims, the nail.
when you hit me with like I'm your
teacher or I'm an authority figure and
I'm telling you or I'm suggesting to you
what to do, like the the themes are like
very similar to how I was spoken to when
I was maybe doing something that I
shouldn't in high school or whatever.
So, it it it's very obvious why the way
he does things is triggering to some
people and why they would just go off.
>> This is what Ian says while closing the
video. I know we love to make all of
their actions malicious, but it's just
not the [ __ ] reality. They're not
thinking about you. Not thinking about
you isn't the biggest crime. We do it
every [ __ ] day. Not thinking about
others is the core of antisocial
behavior, something that leads to the
worst crimes. Furthermore, Ian puts up
examples of what he believes are lesser
crimes. One of these is road rage and
aggressive driving. Ian a few months
prior made a video complaining about
cars and roads where he directly
contradicts his feelings about this.
This video I feel [music] is a great
example of showing you the dangers of
road rage and how it can affect your
mind. It can make you think that you're
like the main character in this world
[music] and that other people don't
exist and aren't experiencing the same
traffic that you're experiencing. You
can do a lot of illegal [ __ ] in your
car, but generally you can get away with
it 99% of the time. I don't like that. I
don't like even having that option. I'm
like, I want everyone to follow the
exact rules so that we can do everything
effectively and correct.
>> For all the affforementioned reasons,
Ian's Cart video was poorly received.
>> Mike Cart one was not really
wellreceived. It was like the perfect
kind of in the middle,
>> okay,
>> topic where like half my audience was
like, "This is cool. Uh, he he has
always annoyed me as well." Uh, and then
the other half was like, "Idubbbz,
you're lazy bones. Uh, these people are
pieces of [ __ ] Like, they need to be
called out on their behavior. Like, this
is necessary." Idubbbz TV in the window
of 2024 would average just over a
million views a month. Out of the eight
public videos he's posted on his main
channel this year, not a single one
would surpass a million, pointing to
viewers preferring his older videos. on
maximum damage. Though the uploads were
far more frequent, Ian almost only
uploaded the She Ruined My Life podcast.
This series viewership began at over
300,000 views monthly, and it would
slump to just over 50,000 views monthly
later in the year. The couple would only
continue to feel the strain of this
failure.
>> I think I hold a lot of selfhatred
[snorts] for coming into his life.
>> You're worried that you ruined him.
>> Yeah. I And it is like a it's a common
theme. You know, people were saying it
before that video even came out and and
um
>> and they definitely were after.
>> Yeah. And I I asked him I've asked him
this a couple times, like if he could go
back to [music]
being the way that he was and thinking
the things that he was and have all the
money again and all the, you know,
success and whatever or be where he is
now, like which one would would he
choose? And he always tells me like, you
know, now that I know what I know and
I'm feeling what I'm feeling, I can't
like the idea of going back is not an
option. This reoccurring character is
Crater Psychology in Seattle. A fitting
guest as Ian and Ana would often express
their feelings and not much more on this
podcast. [music]
The podcast also failed to comment on
anything larger that could perhaps
attract potential viewers. [music] The
potent stench of failure had become too
great. It had attracted those hungry to
critique. As Ian had once done with
uninspired content, [music] streamers
Andy Warski and PPP through the liveream
Kino Casino selected this podcast as a
common target. [music]
It's never going to get big because
we're going to see this podcast is [ __ ]
>> Oh, it's the worst.
>> It's terrible. It's never going to blow
up. It's never going to grow. It's only
going to shrink and shrink and shrink.
And the people who do watch it and do
know what it is are going to be people
who know exactly why it's called My Wife
Ruined My Career.
>> So, this is like our first folder,
right? When we start the show. Hey guys,
here we go. All right.
>> Oh, damn.
Nuto,
>> it's a it's a Naruto croc.
>> It goes on for 20 minutes.
>> This somehow they discuss the croc in
depth and in detail. They talk about how
the croc
spoils Naruto
for like 10 minutes. [laughter]
This is the content they have. That's
Joe Rogan experience level. [laughter]
What? What is this [ __ ] How do you sell
this to somebody? Sell me this show.
Sell me this show. How do you sell this
to somebody without making it a hate
watch? Like, what is like, okay,
[laughter]
remember there was this guy, the content
cop? Yeah, I kind of remember him. Okay.
Well, he doesn't do anything like
Content Cop anymore. Instead, he just
talks about doing chores with his wife.
>> She ruined my career. Even in its early
episodes, had an enormous issue. Where
episode 2 got 25,000 views, the Aino
Casino's commentary of the very same
episode garnered nearly double the
viewership. PPP was correct in assessing
there existed a larger viewership of
detractors than fans of the show.
>> Is this like a segue [music] into the
Apple conversation? Apple conversation.
>> Get ready. It's the Apple conversation.
>> I was waiting for this one, folks.
>> Oh man. Ana is unable to visualize
anything in her brain. [laughter]
>> Her brain does not work. She is not able
to see an apple at all.
>> So she is a five. She can't even imagine
the outline of the apple. And on one end
of the spectrum, you have someone like
Ana based [music] on her description
that there's like nothing going on in
there. There's no visual.
>> There's nothing going on in her brain.
And she nods. Yes, there is nothing
going on in my head, sir. Like the
mental illness here is insane. Only lose
me back. Really nailed it here. I have
no brain and I must pontificate.
[laughter]
As Kino Casino's influence became
greater than she ruined my life, as
their episodes were now hitting below
5,000 views to triple the viewership on
Kino Casino's channel, speculation began
on whether Ian and Ana knew of the
casino.
>> I have to flirt more with my husband on
the podcast so people stop making hate
videos.
[screaming]
>> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Like he reads the comments, right?
Remember, he's the guy get he he he said
this he said the comments are really
important to him and what's 99% of the
comments.
>> Listen, Officer Waffle, I I have been
agreeing with you that there's no way
they watch the show. But the thing is
they get a lot of comments about us that
they delete.
>> Yeah.
>> So, there's a reason for that. And on
their Paywalled show, they're talking
about how they do watch the haters. They
watch people that clip them and they're
seething about it. First of all, like it
it it really like the hatred doesn't
even have as much to do with Ana as it
does with the fact that Idubbbz's
content sucks now. He does. That's the
truth. If Idubbbz was still putting out
content cops that were on the level that
he put out back in the day, most people
would overlook Ana. On May 16th, 2024,
the channel Cold Ones, composed of
former Cancer Crew members, Max Mofo and
Chad, uploaded a video testing YouTuber
products. This video sits at 7.5 million
views. In just 53 minutes, the two would
go through 37 products. More than this
meant a taste test, playing a game, or
reviewing a shoe. They speedily
interacted with every product, show the
cost the creator attached to said
product, and the year the product
released. As a direct contrast, Ian
uploaded a video titled, "Discovering
the most epic influencer brand collabs.
Ian's video begins with some structure,
but no substance. It begins with him
scrolling through articles while
providing superficial commentary as he
does not review any of the influencer
collaborations. The video then turns
into Idubbbz prototyping nonsense
influencer collaborations with little to
no context to understand the innate joke
he is making.
>> Okay, I'm going to be honest, guys. This
next one is inspired by a tweet that I
saw. This [music] isn't original.
But this is going to be a lot like uh a
Wedies box.
All right, guys. This is a brand collab
that no one asked for. I think everyone
[music] wants. Clearly, this box isn't
feminine enough. Ian had a similar idea
to Cold Ones, only the execution was far
from desired. The current view count
sits at 367,000 views, meaning that Cold
One's video received over 2,000% more
viewership than Ian's video on a similar
concept. Once more, the top comment on
Ian's video rejects the video and
instead asks for a fan mail bad
unboxing. As for cold ones in Idubbbz,
viewers were looking closer at these two
channels, partly because of this image
at Max at his wedding. It is a
recreation of a much older image where
Ian could be seen in the back. With
these two images, it was pieced together
that Ian did not attend Max's wedding
and soon delivered an explanation.
[music] Yeah, I talked to Max about the
the wedding situation. Uh when he was
first [ __ ] sending out invites, I was
like really uncertain of how that was
going to work out cuz I had some uh kind
of important plans here in the States.
So, we uh we went a month earlier to
kind of, you know, give him and cat our
well wishes. Um that's why I was in
Australia. And it's kind of also why we
didn't do cold ones is cuz he was
ramping up for his wedding stuff.
>> Fans and detractors speculated as to why
Ian had specifically missed this wedding
when George Miller could attend despite
being on tour. The accepted answer was
Ana's tattoo appointment, though it
could also have been talks for a
potential Creator Class 3, as he stated
in his podcast that likely took place in
the time frame of Max's wedding. We just
got back from a trip to LA,
uh, where I mean, our only reason to go
there was to visit some friends, uh,
talk a little bit about, uh, potential
creator clash and, um, for Ana to finish
her back tattoo.
>> While speculation on their friendship,
Mun Wild, Ian did make an appearance on
Cold Ones in an episode published June
6th, 2024.
>> Our special guest, Ian. Ian has flown
all the way here to Albania to test
these gadgets in this undisclosed
location in Studio Kitchen with us.
>> Ian across this episode was less
animated than the two co-hosts that were
in their element. The comments were not
shy in pointing this out. Quote, "It was
so kind of you guys to bring on this
freshly labbotomized boy. He almost acts
like he's present and living in the
moment. It's so sweet of you two to
invite your lesbian aunt on the show.
She didn't contribute much, but she
seemed to enjoy watching you two have
fun nonetheless." unquote.
>> So, you started doing kind of like more
Ian content than Idubbbz content on your
YouTube channel. Whether it was
subconscious or not, I'm not sure, but I
think you started to like go, okay,
well,
>> this is a good point because I
>> that was my intention when I went to
Australia this time around is I said
like I want to come across as authentic.
>> Yeah. I don't want to be like a crazy
exaggerated person uh because it doesn't
it doesn't feel right for whatever
reason. I feel really bad uh that I
didn't uh I mean it's a good experiment.
I'm glad I did it, but I I really wish
that I had known that uh that energy is
I think kind of needed for something
like a Cold Ones video. Though Ian's
friendship with Max and Chad were no
longer being questioned, there was a
friend, or rather friends, that were
going through a feud of sorts. H3H3 and
Hassan [ __ ] once co-host of a podcast,
separated because of not so different
opinions and what is happening in Israel
and Palestine. After a year of attacking
each other through their streams, Ethan
set out to make an expose similar to
that of a content cop. This released
January 31st, 2025. In February, Ian was
asked by a member of his Discord for his
opinion on the content nuke. Ian
responded, quote, "We ain't talking
about any of that, just a sensitive
topic is all."
Perhaps this was for the best. As Ian
the same month announced creator class 3
here, he also admits about lying about
making a documentary of the whole thing.
We're all getting punched in the head.
I'm documenting the whole thing. There
will eventually be a documentary about
the boxing event. I'm just going to be
real with you. That was the biggest lie
I ever told. But seriously, I was
intending to make a documentary. It just
I didn't know what was going to be
important. I just have like a hundred
hours of me sparring and shadow boxing
in like 4K. It's the most boring [ __ ]
ever. As for Creator Clash, Ian explains
that he is running a Tiltify charity
campaign alongside the event. That way,
if it did fail, money would still be
going to charity. Ian appeared to be
taking a more pragmatic approach. He
even stated publicly in his podcast that
he would not be touching the H3 content
nuke, possibly to avoid the drama
seeping into his event.
>> I'd love to hear your thoughts. Uh, no,
I'm not going to give you our con our
thoughts on the H3 content nuke.
[laughter]
>> I refuse.
>> We don't we don't we let me put it this
way. We're very busy.
>> And yeah, if we if we let any of that
enter our [ __ ] lives, we'd kill
ourselves.
>> [laughter]
>> Even though Ian was opposed to
commenting on it in depth on Twitter, he
was still talking about it in justest.
>> Oh, what is this?
>> I think that it's [laughter]
>> I think it's a good option there.
>> I think it's [ __ ] I like I like
Idubbbz. He's a good guy, but I don't
like this. Wait, stupid.
It's not a [ __ ] petty beef. It's like
this guy is evil and he's doing
anti-semitism
and also he's way out of my weight
class. Still on Twitter, one of Ian's
former editors known as Froggy Tonic was
constantly tweeting against Ethan and
Nila. Though Ana stated that Froggy
Tonic was no longer working for Ian and
hasn't for a long time. Even so, Ana
could still be seen being chummy with
Froggy Tonic on Twitter.
>> Listen, I've been dealing with this [ __ ]
for like 2 years at this point. The part
that got to me about this is just like
this is apparently someone who's like
[snorts] a professional career as an
editor who's worked with my friends on a
the previous Creator Clash, edited
everything for them, who they still
interact with. The disdain for Ian had
gotten to the point that someone had
vandalized Ian Stewart review
vandalization. However, the situation
emerged evolved into something far worse
and far more personal for H3H3.
>> This morning, we got a visit from Child
Protective Services.
I told this story on the show a few
weeks ago about how um when we adopted
Olive, she had giardia and then I um the
next day
um Sunny started having diarrhea. So, we
suspected he might have giardia. seeing
[snorts] as that he's an infant, he's
crawling around, he's putting everything
in his mouth, etc. Makes sense, right?
It's obvious.
So, um, it turned into this whole snark
narrative that our house is a is a, uh,
a mess, [snorts] that there's dog [ __ ]
everywhere, that Sunny is eating [ __ ]
and getting Jardia, and that, you know,
etc., etc.
>> He was checking the house and like,
where do the dogs go potty? Because we
heard that there's poop on the floor.
The house is spotless.
>> Our house is so clean.
>> To summarize, Ethan adopted Olive, a
dog. Olive allegedly already had
Giardia, a parasite. Giardia can be
transferred through direct contact with
fecal matter from surface to surface or
just through water. Ethan in a separate
video talked at length about how he
believes that his child and perhaps he
got the parasite, though he would later
claim it was never transferred to anyone
and only Olive ever had it. With
everything escalating, so did H3's
pressure, demanding the support of Yin
Ana by the disavowing of Assan's
tangential community.
>> The last thing I said to Ana, we were
texting before I ever talked about it
and I said, she's like, I don't care
about this guy. He's a nobody and you
know, blah blah blah. And I said, well,
then you'll have no problem uh publicly
denouncing it, right?
>> And then from there, the [music]
conversation ended.
>> She never replied. Just say he doesn't
at least say something like he doesn't
work for me and I dis and I strongly
disagree and I support Ethan and Ela.
The problem is
>> the problem is that she doesn't.
>> That's the problem.
>> That's the problem.
>> She she she actually
>> she thinks they have a point.
>> That's the problem.
>> Yeah. So go [ __ ] yourself.
>> I agree. I
>> Who else Who else do we want to burn
today?
>> I mean, yeah. This was kind of like a a
a line what happened today that should
never be crossed even by like the most
cynical toxic people.
>> People are saying this thing like Ana
ruined Ian. Like no
>> that's pathetic.
>> Ian ruined Ian. Ana ruined Ana. Ian
ruined Ian.
>> They're both adults.
>> I agree.
>> They make their own actions. Ian sucks
for the same reason right now. He could
say something too.
>> Spineless.
>> He could say something too. He has his
own following. Ian knows better. He's
been with us. He's seen us with our
kids.
>> Ethan and Nila, furious at their
children being targeted, attempted to
find the source of the call. 3 days
later, on March 10th, Ethan released a
video believing this dream was a source.
He lets his dogs [ __ ] all over his
mansion just and he just leaves a [ __ ]
on the floor. Something that is probably
related to the fact that his former
housekeeper is suing him for a number of
different reasons. So, I would assume he
doesn't actually have a housekeeper
anymore or perhaps he he lost his extra
housekeeper. So now the house is just
like covered in dog [ __ ] and he's he has
kids and his kids like crawl into the
dog [ __ ] and god forbid. I don't know
what they do with it. I don't know if
they eat it or if it's just from like
contact with it with their hands or
something, but they contracted a
parasite that I had previously never
heard of in my life called Giarda.
>> Now at this point as he continues, uh
notice the chat is almost [snorts] in
complete universal agreement. Call CPS.
Call child endangerment. CPS, social
services, bro needs to unirically call
CPS. That's D child endangerment. Okay.
If his kids have giardia, they need to
be taken away. Actual worst father ever,
etc., etc. I'll let the chat play for
you, but you can see just [music] how
crazy this community is. And once again,
this is Denim's chat from the first. The
call came on the [music] third. This is
why Ethan believes the call may have
come from this community. Beyond
fleshing out the characters beyond these
dreams, Ethan Nila did insult Ian and
Ana for their lack of support for
ruining their own lives and for
believing they are fair weather friends.
If there is anything that has been shown
to motivate Ian, it is demanding
something of him. Ian will also attack
anyone insulting Ana. [music] Two things
H3H3 was now doing. As such, Ian and his
podcast did not seem pleased about this
development and in the same podcast, Ana
also astutely assesses Ian as Local. I
uh Ethan's uh uh upset with uh I think
some of our connections and you know
we've tried to reach out to Ethan to
talk privately. Um basically it just
seems like we're at a bit of an an
impass. So we want to stay out of the
drama as much as possible. We don't want
to pile on and add to anything. So this
is our, you know, lukewarm addressing of
it.
>> Um
>> yeah, the door is always open. I want to
like really drive it home. We don't
condone harassment.
>> We don't condone harassment of any kind
>> in of any kind.
>> Okay. Period. Which is why we have not
stuck our foot in any of this uh because
it is not productive. I don't think it's
helpful. And these are real people who
have real feelings. I don't really
expect them [laughter] to to come to bat
for me or anything. Yeah. If they don't
agree with it.
>> Yeah.
>> And um you know, I don't expect them to
speak up period on any of it.
>> And this is like the cycle cuz it is a
cycle. Um you go they just don't have
all the information.
>> If I just clarify and give them the
information,
>> right,
>> then they'll like back off. But of
course, these people don't give a [ __ ]
[laughter] like the information. So,
they take the information and they twist
it and then you get frustrated and
you're like, maybe they don't understand
that I'm not a bad person and they need
to see that like emotionally this is
making me sad.
>> So then you like
>> cry about it.
>> Cry about it [laughter] and then they
[ __ ] think it's funny and then they
take that and then you get into this
cycle of like
>> Yeah. And it's it's you know they some
people call it like a l cow which has
become like more of a common term and it
makes me sad because the people who are
like farmable
>> in quotations are people who clearly do
not have the tools to like take care of
themselves.
>> On Twitter, Froggyonic could be seen
asking Ian for a cotton cop, believing
that it could create momentum for Ian.
In reality, this could be one of the
least thought out things Ian could do.
It would only guarantee a burning of a
long-lasting friendship. It would make
it appear as if he was siding with Assan
and his distasteful cohorts. It would
attach a large drama to Crater Clash 3.
And Ian has stated endlessly how he does
not want to be the hammer. How returning
to making a content cop would prove how
little he has progressed as a quote
unquote uncle Rico attempting to capture
a long past time. Then again, these are
reasonable things to consider, and Ian
is not so reasonable. Then I go camping.
People on the internet were talking
about this camping trip. The trip was
set up by my coach as something he
wanted to do in his life. He likes
camping. Ian's like, "Hey, I want to
come." Ian came down from Seattle. He
joined us. Odd Ones Out was there. Alex
Ernst was there. Steven, another YouTube
boxer. She was there. A It was a bunch
of us. on this camping trip is where Ian
tells me, "Hey, I'm doing another
content cop." And I was like, "Oh,
that's cool." And he goes, "Yeah, it's
on Ethan." And I was like, "Ethan
Klein?" And he said, "Yeah, is he on
Ethan Klein?" I thought, "Oh no, why
would you do that?" I'm thinking, "Oh my
god, dude. Why are you doing this? Why
are you trying to cause trouble?"
Because now I'm thinking, "This is going
to ruin Creator Clash 3 and I'm going to
get screwed again." Yes, I can tell him
I'm concerned. I truly thought it was a
work. It was like a WWE promo thing
where like they were going to have a
fake feud. They're going to make up
right before Criticos 3 genius
promotion. I watch a lot of wrestling
though, so I probably was thinking
incorrectly. Ian's motivation, as dad
claims, does not exist outside of his
own desires. It does not exist to
promote Creator Clash 3 or serve as a
well- thoughtout dissection. Instead,
Ian's main motivation is himself. So Ian
and I are walking around getting
firewood and he's like, "Yeah, he he
Ethan said a bunch of stuff about me and
Ana and I need to respond to him. So I'm
going to make a content cop." He puts
the thing out and he screws every single
person. He screws Real Good Touring, all
the business professionals who are
making this event with him. He screw
screws me. He screws every other boxer.
Everyone was screwed from Ian's dumb
video because he couldn't wait 2 months.
Ian's content cop on Ethan released
April 16th. To Ian's credit, in the
introduction, he was assuming his former
role of Jester by opening it up with an
impactful yet whimsical skit. I've been
lying about everything, [music]
including my glasses. They're fake. He
was right about that. That's not even in
the content nuke. And he was right about
that, too. How did he know everything?
How?
Wake up, Ethan. Wake up, Ethan. Ethan,
wake up. [music]
>> Wakey wakey. Ethan, wake up. Ethan, wake
up.
>> Time to be awake. Ethan,
>> wake up. Ethan, this is no longer a
dream. This is a nightmare. Wake up.
>> Even Ethan could not deny the intro's
entertainment value.
>> This is This is actually pretty
entertaining. I'm not even [ __ ]
tripping. This is kind of fun to watch.
>> The video then turns into an enormous
mound of nothing.
>> I don't even know if you can call this a
content cop. Like this is like a static
nothing happens. Shitty editing, no
sketches, no jokes.
>> I guess they called these slop videos.
Now
>> Ian talks about Han, his community's
endless convoluted dramas. How it
relates to Ethan Klein and why Ethan
should improve. It is overall a
structuralist, confused product that
opens by trying to be comedically
inconsiderate, then follows it up by an
hour of believing he is being
considerate. This content cop works if
the viewer is Ian and only Ian as it is
made for him. Everyone else was
disappointed. [music] That content cop
even by my biggest haters. They're like,
"Oh yeah, that content cop was weak. So
why are you acting like it's it's gloves
off time? Time to endlessly harass
someone because it was so was that it?"
It didn't It clearly didn't end his
career. Like it was just a [ __ ] video
of me expressing my grievances. Even
Ian's final blow was a da. The content
cop was meant to end with creator
psychology in Seattle receiving his A+
grade for one of Ethan's apology videos
that Ethan totes. Except Psychology in
Seattle does not do that. Okay, Idubbbz,
I hear you. You're in the room with me
right now. I hear you. I hear your
request. I understand it. I I can
understand where it's coming from. And I
I guess have a policy that when there is
a grade for an apology, I am just
grading that discrete apology as I see
it. Unfortunately, Kirk did not change
his grade. But that's okay because this
is the internet. I think something
that's very important to me in bringing
back Content Cop is to be fair. I think
that was something that was not
illustrated in previous content cops
that I think should have been. Ian, as
with previous Content Cops and the
Carton video, was inconsiderate. He
failed to provide Ethan's motivation in
that his children were targeted by who
he believes to be Kassan's community.
The main way Ian relates is not through
attempting to understand the gravity of
having children, but rather through his
own partner being attacked, which was
not at all the main issue with Ethan and
Nila. You know, I also see the dynamic
of Ethan and Nila. Like [ __ ] Like it's
really hard to be um a couple online and
see people attacking your partner and
it's like okay like if you come to their
defense
that doesn't always help them, right?
Sometimes that makes it worse for them.
You you're just this isn't that's not
even relevant to our relationship. Like
you're talking about yourself. You're
making it about yourself.
>> Ian's content cop was not received well
especially by those who finished it. Um,
dude, I don't even know what to say. I,
bro,
I know he's probably like watching
people's reactions, whatever, and and
like that. He probably I like I'm Guys,
I I really didn't want to be harsh on
the video off the rip. I didn't want to
be harsh. So, this likes I still give it
a shot. Okay. And this was like the most
nothing burger of all time. You can [ __ ]
equally on everybody in this video in a
manner that is the same as this or more
and make a better nuke than whatever the
[ __ ] this is. Every single top comment
is highly insulting towards Ian. Not in
a directly derisive way, but rather by
not engaging with the product at all. A
demonstration that is an insult to art.
A statement in how little people cared
about Ian's personal plight that would
also surely affect Creator Clash 3. And
the this the side narrative of this is
THE WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST THE MOST
controversial topic on the entire IN THE
ENTIRE WORLD. THE war in the Middle East
is the side narrative to this content
cop. These are the owners and the
[music] creators of creator clash that
decide to get into this conflict. Ian
had created a space where people had
given him multiple chances and sat
through his ramblings to understand his
perspective. Yet Ian had failed to
extend this same openness [music] to
criticism. And with 7 million people
exposed to who he was, this content cop
was providing detractors ammunition to
point out Ian's strong statements and
their contradictions.
>> Who else do we want to burn today?
>> Who else do we want to burn today?
You're making it so [ __ ] obvious that
this is your like this is your emotional
dumping ground. It's horrible.
>> It's called Street Podcast. It's always
been my emotional dumping ground. What
are you talking about? It's my show. I
can dump I take a dump on you. will take
a dump on anyone. By the way, give the
context of why we were angry and instead
said burning more people
>> what podcasts are. There was a way to
>> Are you the arbiter of what a podcast
is? Sorry, I'm pausing it too much. But
this claim is insane. I didn't know
that. Ian is the decider of what
podcasts are.
>> Mhm.
>> Oh, I defer to your expertise, sir. Uh,
with 3,000 episodes per 3,000 views per
episode, clearly you are in a class of
your own, sir. [laughter] Ha. Ethan,
alongside reacting to the Content Cop,
also made a video summarizing his
reaction where he revealed he was sent
two human skulls.
>> There's something that I've never talked
about publicly, but around the same
time, we received two human skulls in
the mail [music] at our home, which led
us that having a very pleasant interview
with the FBI.
>> Although Ethan fails to go into depth on
the human skulls in this video, these
skulls likely came from a website that
works to sell bones, presumably for
scientific study. On April 24th, Ana
attempted to advertise Creator Clash 3.
Virtually all the responses were more
interested in citing the failures of
Creator Clash 2 and the recently
released Content Cop. This was the
breaking point. On the 29th, Harley
announced he was leaving Crater Clash. A
strong blow considering how staunchly he
defended Ian and Ana in the past.
[music] Harley turned out to be just one
of many fighters who were dropping out
of the event, including fighters
strongly connected to the H3 podcast. In
May, Ian released a content deputy on
H3. He also announced that Nissan and
him were no longer going to be running
the event as someone else would be
taking on that responsibility. Soon
after, this Discord message of fighter
Freddy Wong putting forward his
frustrations from inside the event
leaked. quote, "In the wake of the new
announcement video detailing the change
in ownership structure of Creator Clash,
or to be more accurate, the brief
statement detailing changes in the
ownership of Creator Clash, followed by
20 minutes of continued relitigation of
what I'll charitably call quote unquote
internet nonsense. There remains some
lingering questions that I, as well as I
suspect other fighters would appreciate
clarity on," unquote. Freddy is asking
for communication to be a priority as
fighters were getting their information
at the same pace as Ian's viewers. He is
asking for something to be in place to
protect the reputation of creator clash
as Ian even detached from it is still
damaging the event and to that extent
the fighters who are only focused on the
charity and not the ongoing internet
nonsense. Freddy is also asking for a
timet to replace fighters that are
dropping out of the event, what the PR
strategy is and who is in charge of it
and how soon the website will update to
reflect the attending fighters. And now
I've realized like I can't really have
my cake and eat it too. It's either
you're going to talk [ __ ] like a foul
beast on the internet or you're going to
have a charity event. You know, it
really can't be both. I'm very proud of
the event that we made with Creator
Clash. It's still happening June 28th.
>> This event is not happening. [laughter]
>> I Well, that obviously I'm making a
prediction.
>> I don't think this event is happening. I
think this is going to go down as one of
the most monumental failures. On May
24th, it was leaked that Creator Clash
was being delayed to a date far into the
future. Then on May 29th, the Creator
Clash page was updated with a new
transparency FAQ page. Underneath the do
fighters get paid tab, it states, quote,
"A further 34% profit share originally
allocated to Ian and Ana is also being
redistributed among the fighters
following their departure."
Ian addresses this on Reddit, stating he
was too vague in his initial
explanation. In a later video, he would
state that this 34% would have been
donated. As for the Reddit post, Ian
states the event was for profit, not for
charity, and only the Tiltify that ran
alongside it guaranteed money for the
charities. The comments are mixed. Some
appreciating the clarification, others
are referencing Ian's poorly received
content cop. This same day, LA Beast
dropped from the event. And viewers
pieced together that Freddy Wong had
also dropped from the event as he was
absent from the Creator Clash roster. It
was also discovered that ticket sales
had halted and Ticket Master was stating
that the event had been cancelled. Yet
the following day, Aaron Hansen, the
owner of Real Good Touring, stated that
Ian had given their entire stake in
Crater Clash to them. As Ian and Ana had
detached themselves from the event, the
fighters can now safely error their
grievances and how the failure of the
previous event affected them.
>> It's for a good cause. It's for charity.
And then when you go and do it and no
money is raised for charity, that sucks.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I've been pretty candid with
you about this, Aaron, about like how
disappointed I was and how like burnt I
felt by it. Um, and I was talking to a
separate fighter who's not in the room
about this just yesterday. It was like
you you work so hard. I had a family
member who was in the hospital with
cancer at the time. And the thing that
like kept me going that stopped me from
quitting and just going to be with them
was I was like, "This is for charity.
You're raising money for charity. You're
raising money for a good cause. You got
to keep going." And it was so hard. Um
and then when I found out that we didn't
I think I cried like I was so
disappointed. Um sad. It was
>> Yeah, it's super sad.
>> Alana Piers corroborates that she like
Harley was not aware the event lost
money until Ian made it public. There
was just like some handling stuff that
like we didn't find out that it didn't
raise money for charity for a pretty
long time. Like I think that maybe I
don't really know maybe Ian and Isa were
like scared to tell us or something but
I didn't even find out through them. I
found out through one of the other
fighters and I was like what? I really
feel like I should have known this and
so I yeah I felt pretty bummed.
>> The fighters were not the only ones
speaking out. Ian's coach, Michael
Briggs, and his wife, Kate Yang Briggs,
as shown several times throughout this
video, had much to say about Ian. Very
little of it complimentary.
>> And so, I was super psyched that this is
going to be a way for me to help build
my husband's brand and also um put the
work out there, but it never came
through. And so when he most recently
put that video out saying that he told a
big lie and [music] he was never going
to put out a documentary and all he has
is a ton of 4K videos of him doing
stupid [ __ ] or something like that. It
was actually very hurtful to me.
>> That's your footage that you talking
about your footage.
>> Three years. Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> Uh one of the people they flew in was
Froggy Tonic and they flew him in from
France.
>> That's insane. And Froggy had told us
that he was there to salvage the
documentary and that was super offensive
to us.
>> And that's when Froggy Tony told me that
Yeah. Ian and Isa brought out his whole
crew from France.
>> His whole crew.
>> I think it was just him.
>> Well, he had a few people that were
holding the cameras, his camera guys.
Because the interesting thing was that
usually when like someone is a
videographer, they would be the one
filming most of the time, but it was
interesting to me that like
>> he was just directing.
>> Yeah, he was more directing. Oh, this
[ __ ] thick guy thinks he's Spielberg.
>> Froggy Tonic, the first domino to the
failure of Critter Clash 3, was not only
flown out but also invited to the gala.
While most attendees dressed for the
occasion, Froggy was not most people.
[music] Since you mentioned the Getty,
he that they flew the Getty images in,
the only one I've seen is this guy. This
is Froggy Tonic.
>> Froggy,
>> and he showed up here. I think I think
he mistook the event for um
>> Froggy never did anything wrong
>> for some kind of communist uh gathering.
>> Did you guys see him there at the gala?
>> I didn't see him there.
>> Isn't it so insane to wear that outfit
and not be seen?
>> Yeah.
>> Isn't that unbelievable? Like you did
all that and no one I I too did not
remember seeing that person. One of the
reasons Michael Briggs was on the
podcast was to clear his name. So, first
of all, Ian never even reached out to me
at all for through create for creative
three. That's one of the big things I
want from this is to like uh because
what happens when Ian messes with you or
messes with these other people, a lot of
it comes back onto me and my either my
YouTube channel or my Instagram where
people start putting a bunch of comments
on my stuff. It's probably happening to
Harley. It happens to everybody that's
related to it.
>> Michael also spoke about the training,
who he was training, and Ian's poor
hygiene.
>> How are you sick of boxing? like he
obviously hate boxing. So yeah, [snorts]
so it was hard for me as a coach to just
get him to train. Um, also like half of
the sessions we'd have to train Ana. So
every session instead of being just
training for Ian for a fight, I would
have to take half of the session and
train Ana.
>> So whose idea was that?
>> Hers. Hers.
>> Yeah.
>> I told I'd even But but the thing about
it is Ian has Ian goes along with it,
right? Cuz I feel like if Ian would have
said, "Hey, no, I need the time to
train." It might have been different.
But he's just like, "Oh, no. She needs
to train before I train."
>> But she didn't even fight. She wasn't
even fighting.
>> I don't want to just talk [ __ ] about
him, but like there would be times, for
example, before the first event where he
was talking about getting tonsil stones
and he was saying he was going to get
strep throat cuz he had tonsil stones.
And I said, "Ian,
>> tonsil stones don't cause uh strep
throat. Tonsil stones are cuz you're not
brushing your [ __ ] teeth. Hard for me
to want the best for him when he didn't
want to train.
>> Now, do you have any commentary about
his potential body odor?
[laughter] I
>> mean, I say it's true. I smell all the
time. It's horrible. A good example is
this cuz Michael's so nice and he
doesn't want to say it. But here's the
thing. When we're in fight camp, he does
2 hours in the morning and 2 hours in
the evening. Okay.
>> For the first fight, he did, he cut out
his two days. And that was the most
important time to be doing two days.
>> Yes. So he would smell so bad that when
he comes back in the afternoon to train,
he doesn't shower in between his
sessions. And so like the coaches that
are training other, you know, members
there would just like look at us with
the weirdest face, you know, like a
stink face. And then Michael would try
to take Ian to the corner where there's
not a lot of members of the gym so they
don't have to smell it.
>> I try to take him to the open door.
>> Yeah. So that does happen. I'm not
lying. It's true. He doesn't shower. The
reason why they moved away from LA was
because she had all these friends that
wanted to use Ian and just take from
him.
>> Oh my god, she's she is so doing
textbook isolating him.
>> Yeah, she's isolating him. And literally
besides me and Michael and the gym, he
doesn't have any friends.
>> Wait, this is actually really sad.
>> Has no friends as well. It's ridiculous.
>> That's why I would feel bad for him.
>> I want to say here that I, the
capitalist, will once again be ponying
up for the right cause. It is not right
that he stiffed you guys. I'm going to
be sending you guys $5,000 for the bonus
that you never got.
>> Oh my god.
>> Because he should have he should have
never [ __ ] you guys.
>> That's insane.
>> In one of the last segments of the
podcast, Kate Yang Briggs speaks of
reaching out to Ian and Ana to amplify
his support for a bill against child
marriage, but was promptly ignored. This
matters to her more than the average
citizen because she was a child bride
who sold into marriage for $6,000 to an
abusive husband.
>> Protect children like, you know, me and
and survivors like me. Um, the bill in
California was actually trashed um uh
the day before it was supposed to go
down.
>> Are you saying in California you can get
married at any age
>> with parental consent?
>> Yep. So, uh
>> I did not know that. I did not know
that.
>> On July 7th, Crater Clash 3 was
officially cancelled. Fighters continued
to speak out against Ian and Ana and the
permanent damage they thought they
received for the sake of charity. Well,
this is a video I didn't want to make,
but here we are. You didn't know Creator
Clash 3 is cancelled.
It's completely over. It's done. It's
not happening. I don't know if it's from
the boxing, but it happened one night
when I had a very hard sparring session.
And when I turn my head now, I see
bright flashes on the side and left of
my head. I'm seeing them right now. The
following day on Twitter, Ana tweeted,
quote, "Okay, I'm just going to come out
and clear something up. Ian won't be
happy I'm doing this, but I think we
need more transparency. Ticket sales
were abysmal before the content cop.
Promotion wasn't going how we had hoped.
Charity wasn't getting the numbers we
wanted." unquote. While Ana spoke of her
and Ian's possible detachment from this
year's event, fighters were speaking of
Creator Clash 2 and 3's failures. Hondur
on Twitter stated, quote, "My bicep does
work, even if it looks mangled. Thanks."
My take is that every time I look at it,
I remember that the charity that I
repped received no money and that my
year without the full use of my arm
benefited no one, and that same team had
the gall to make CC3 even worse."
unquote. Chris Reagan tweeted, quote,
"Sad, but not surprising. My heart goes
out to the fighters." The first event
really was a special thing. I wouldn't
have signed up for the second one if I
didn't firmly believe that. The second
one is when it started to fall apart,
very poorly managed, and three is just a
shitow."
Nathan Barnett in a deleted video would
state that Idubbbz blocked him, Harley,
and AB, which were fighters in Creator
Clash. Idubbbz had virtually no friends
or allies remaining. It had gotten to
the point that even Boogie 298 was more
like than him.
>> This man has made every mistake there is
and he is destitute. He's lost it all.
>> Majority [laughter]
highbrow over here.
>> It's a comedy of heirs.
>> Uh yeah. Okay. Yeah, fair.
>> It's a comedy. It's a tragic comedy.
>> It resembles that. Yeah.
>> Ian had lost his channel viewership post
Content Cop was falling. He had only
been losing hundreds of thousands of
subscribers for the last 2 years. Oh my
god.
>> Let me go back.
>> No, you don't have to.
>> No, no, this is important.
>> Where Ian could have existed more
passively on Twitch, he was not that
sort of person. If anything survived
within him, it was his stubborn nature.
He needed to punch back because he is a
LOL cow.
>> I I think I think people will be happy
because I'm I'm working on a video that
does
uh I don't know. I think it speaks a
little bit to the people who want to see
me kind of, I don't know, stick up for
myself a little bit more and be a little
bit more [ __ ]
uh violent.
>> This video released September 9th, and
like everything Ian had done in the past
6 years, it was not at all wellreceived.
Today, I'm going to be doing the thing
that everyone tells you not to do, and
that [music] is feed the trolls. One of
the more important things that I want to
talk about is my relationship with Ana.
I thought more people would be able to
catch on. I am quiet, stoic, not
talkative. She is the opposite of that.
She is loud, very talkative, social.
We've been together for nearly 10 years,
and all of it has been online for the
public to see. And there are still
people accusing her of cheating,
accusing me of being in [music] an
abusive relationship. None of this is
true and there is no evidence for any of
this except like I guess body language
experts coming on and being like Idubbbz
is being stoic here therefore he's in
hell.
>> Okay, hang on. Hang on. Watch the change
there. Watch the changes.
>> The I don't know what the [ __ ] that was.
I have never gotten
>> Look at Ian in this moment. Oh my god.
>> Like he looks sad. He is disgusted at
her. He's depressed. He's so disgusted.
He looks disgusted with this.
>> He looks so uncomfortable. He's like,
"Should I be here?" He looks so
uncomfortable. Look at this guy's body
language. He doesn't want to be there.
>> Look how miserable he looks. Dude, he
looks miserable, dude. He looks like he
wants to kill himself.
>> And And even when I smile, you guys
still like contort it into he's so
uncomfortable or he's smiling THROUGH
THE PAIN.
OH, HE'S so he's smiling on his face,
>> but inside his eyes, you can see his
pain.
>> And if you listen to freaks like this
guy I'm about to show, it makes sense
why they are obsessed. Ana wants to have
sex into having sex with Ana. I think he
wants to bang Ana. Ana was horny and
wanted to have sex with [laughter]
this therapist. Well, Ana herself to it.
>> Yep. Do you think that makes her [ __ ]
wet?
>> But she's getting clown.
>> That's what I'm saying.
>> What we're describing here is two grown
men who are fantasizing about a stranger
and his wife and what they do in the
bedroom or don't do in the bedroom. That
is creepy weirdo [ __ ] And here we have
Idubbbz with THE BULL, FOLKS. THERE'S
[screaming] IDUBBBZ WITH THE BULL.
>> For some reason, this stupid [ __ ]
loser and his dumb as rocks wife decided
to go on the H3 podcast. They already
spilled their guts. They were getting
paid like $5,000 to go go on this
podcast. Michael Briggs and his wife
were not paid to go on to the podcast.
Rather, Ethan surprised them with that
money. Following this video, Ian went
live on Twitch attempting to address his
detractors, including the testimony of
Michael Briggs. that would be clipped
for moments like these.
>> We live in a small two-bedroom, two bath
apartment, and I had to go buy extra
tables and chairs. So, there would be
room for me, Michael, my two sons, and
my friend, and Ian and Isa to sit. And
we went out of our way to do all this
for them. And they just treat us like
we're just I don't know, gone with the
wind.
>> Yeah.
>> I'm glad you guys are are seeing it. It
actually feels like I don't have to say
much here. Like, yes, we were being
nice. We went over to my coaches and his
wife's Thanksgiving. It was the one time
where we said, "Okay, we'll [ __ ]
we'll do a little extra. We'll do more
than just show up to the training." Ian
was now covering the people that enjoyed
bullying him and watching his life
spiral out of control. The contempt for
him had encouraged this audience to be
built. I briefly want to talk about the
concept of being a lull cow because
these [ __ ] losers, they love the
concept of like labeling someone a lull
cow and then like bullying them and
watching their life spiral out of
control. They won't, you know, say as
much. They'll just be like, "Yeah, we
just do it for laughs. The whole thing's
entertainment. It's just a, you know,
just innocent guys just having a laugh."
So, now I want to look at two different
clips from these guys. There is the fat
one and his cohort who are listening to
Ana describe like essentially having a
hard time online seeing people mock and
make fun of her dad with Alzheimer's.
>> They were laughing at my dad for getting
sick on some of these forums like
>> what did you think would because you
shared it online.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean like that's what people are going
to do because they want to get a
reaction out of you.
>> Yeah. I don't think they probably even
really believe the stuff that they're
saying, but they know because it's
extreme and like edgy that it will cause
you mentally spiral like this. So that's
why they do it and you're telling them
that it affects you. So guess what?
They're going to keep doing it. This is
how the internet works. It it shouldn't
be, but that's how it is. The whole time
he is not saying that he is a
perpetrator of bullying her. What he's
saying is that other people are doing
that, but he is doing it actively. In
this video, he is bullying Ana. And in
other videos, he's literally bullied and
made fun of her dad who has Alzheimer's
with a latestage dementia patient who is
a extremist Muslim and he sees his
daughter covered in tattoos married to
Idubbbz the [ __ ] It's plain as day that
he's part of the problem, but he [ __ ]
refuses, like a coward does, to take any
responsibility for him being part of the
problem. Ian had not just become a local
cow, he had transitioned entirely to the
other end of the continent cop. He was
now pointing out that the jesters known
as the Kino Casino critique, but also
dance. This was a victory for the
casino. They had successfully lampuned
and trapped a whale, and they were
celebrating. [screaming]
YEAH,
[laughter]
>> look at this [ __ ]
>> Celebrate
good times. Come on.
>> Oh my god. [laughter]
>> Look how happy they are.
>> Look how happy they are.
>> They're really happy all the time. But
this one, you're right. We're very, very
>> exceptionally happy. I love it. I love
THIS [ __ ] THE GUY'S dressed up as the
colonel and the other guy's a [ __ ]
fried chicken. That fried chicken
costume is actually really underrated.
It's so [laughter] funny. Holy [ __ ]
dude. The cap on your [ __ ] head.
>> It's [laughter] so surreal. So,
>> one is fried chicken and the other is
Colonel Sander. [laughter]
[crying]
>> Why are [laughter] you taking these guys
serious? Well, dude, it's backfired cuz
I love these guys.
[screaming]
>> The VOD of the Kino Casino responding to
Idubbbz is the most viewed video on
their channel. It is here that they
would spend 2 hours picking it apart.
There's no [ __ ] reason in the world
why we should actually be featured on
the H3 podcast. Like in all s like we
are like the lowest sector sewer
dwelling demeanor
IS GOOD.
>> LOOK SAD.
>> LOOK SAD.
>> WHY WOULDN'T I SAY?
>> THE GUY'S TRYING TO COPE AND BE LIKE I'M
NOT SAD. I'M STOIC. [ __ ] you can't cry
on camera multiple times because you're
getting cyberbullied
and claim to be a stoic badass. He has 7
million subscribers and routinely gets
hundreds of thousands if not millions of
views on his main channel.
>> Why are you addressing us? You just blew
us up way bigger. I mean, I'll be real.
We couldn't buy the publicity that he
just gave us. I can't believe what he
did.
>> Thinking in any way, thinking in any way
that there's a single viewer of Kino
Casino who's going to watch that video
and go, "Oh man, I didn't know Ashton
talked like that." [laughter]
People always compare Joi, you know,
leaving Filthy Frank behind to Idubbbz
leaving, you know, the content cop
behind.
>> The difference was that Joji didn't
perform humiliation rituals on himself
and his audience. He didn't shame people
for enjoying the content he made. He
didn't whip himself through the streets
for making the content that he made. He
didn't. He just moved on. And if Idubbbz
had just moved on, made whatever he
wanted to make, his fans would have come
with him, at least a certain contingent
of it. What would have gotten Ian out of
this rut was a new audience achieved by
succeeding in a new direction. There was
potential with his documentary series,
but this fell apart after his Sam Hyde
documentary. He could have been known as
a creator running the world's largest
boxing charity event, but he mismanaged
it to the point that even the fighters
and his former coach now dislike him. In
September, there was even a second H3
stream with Michael Briggs.
>> He's not a good person. He's really
evil. So, that's the reason why we came
forward with the information we had
because Ian needed to know that he
cannot continue this way forever.
Someone's going to hold him accountable.
>> Idubbbz was once one of the most
prolific creators on YouTube. For better
and for worse, he made videos that
served as a passion of shame for the
shameless. These were fast-paced and
captivating, and within them was the
message to remain inspired, creative,
and consistent. But when the time came
to change and improve, he only devolved.
Instead of carrying his inspiration and
critical attitudes to his newest
projects, he turned that hatred inward,
then outward, to anyone that shared in
his older qualities. There were always
segments of his audience that hated and
loved Ian for his superficial qualities
and an image of him that never matched
his true intent. As is the consequence
of being an artist. Instead of painting,
he has now joined the rings of the
uninspired as if it was his ability to
think critically that brought harm. He
is now incurious and spiteful. [music]
He has lost the ability to dream, think,
and do. This is the core reason why Ian
has fallen and is widely disliked as he
is the inverse of what he once [music]
was. He chases a superficial glowing
reputation while attempting to mask the
rot within. [music]
And there is only one market that enjoys
celebrating failures. In this way, Ian's
story is about a jester that became lost
only to find himself as the butt of the
joke.
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This video chronicles the evolution and eventual decline of YouTube content creator Ian J, also known as Idubbbz. Initially celebrated for his "Content Cop" series, which critiqued other YouTubers, Idubbbz began his career by playing indie games and gradually shifted towards commentary. His "Content Cop" videos, particularly those targeting reaction channels and controversial figures like Leafy and Keemstar, gained significant traction. However, as his fame grew, his content became less impactful, and his personal life, particularly his relationship with Ana, began to overshadow his work. The video details his struggles with content creation, the fallout from his controversial statements and actions, the failures of his Creator Clash boxing events, and his eventual transition into a more passive and less engaging content style. Ultimately, the video suggests that Idubbbz lost his creative edge and ability to connect with his audience, becoming a shell of his former self, a "jester lost to the joke."
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