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>> Good day to you. I'm Nathan Hager. We
begin today's program with some key
economic data in the US. Non-farm
payrolls for the month of August are due
out this Friday, 8:30 a.m. Wall Street
time as it is the first Friday of every
month. And for more on how this month's
numbers could affect Fed policy, we are
very pleased to be joined by Edward
Harrison, senior strategist for
Bloomberg News and author of the
Everything Risk newsletter. Ed, what's
the risk of the kind of negative
surprise that we saw from the July
non-farm payrolls print?
>> I think the risk is relatively high,
Nathan, because of the temporary um
protected status workers who have now
left the payrolls. I think that that's
the big question. How many of those
workers uh were working under temporary
protected status? And uh what does that
mean for non-form payrolls? It could
actually be such a large number in the
hundreds of thousands that you see a
negative number for uh for the next
month as as well as last month.
>> You're talking about the impact of
tighter immigration policy on this labor
market. Is that part of what we've been
seeing in the overall trend uh whe when
it comes to labor market growth of this
low hire low fire environment?
>> It definitely is. I mean there are two
factors that come together. One, as uh
an economy tightens and it gets closer
to full employment, you naturally have
uh fewer opportunities. uh you know the
the the massive gains that you have at
the beginning of a cycle just aren't
there at the end of a a business cycle
or in the middle of it. Then secondarily
you see uh in the United States in
particular recently that we've tightened
immigration policy in a way that will
mean non-farm payrolls are closer to
zero on average than they were before.
meaning that you can get these negative
numbers and it's not necessarily a sign
that the economy is weak in the way that
it would have been when we had a large
uh growth of immigration. The case of
the Haitian workers who have lost
temporary protected status in particular
that is an encapsulation of that
immigration policy in a very single
month and that's why this particular
number is uh volatile and could surprise
to the downside. Is that the main factor
at play here? Uh is it immigration
policy? What other factors could
potentially be at play here when it
comes to what we could see?
>> I think uh there are some benchmark
revisions uh that are coming into play.
Uh so that's going to muddy the waters
somewhat. Uh and then you also have the
participation rate which has been going
down uh as baby boomers age. Uh and so
that also plays a factor. So there are
multiple factors but I think just
because of the uh how quickly the uh the
status change happened that will
probably be the main factor and I would
say that the benchmark revisions are
going to be the secondary factor and
then sort of trend factors uh add on to
that.
>> There's been a lot of talk as well about
whether artificial intelligence is
having an impact on the labor market as
well. Are you starting to see that come
into play? you know, I haven't really
seen that come into play in particular
because it's not clear whether or not
that's a positive or a negative factor.
Uh there's been such a huge boom in
artificial intelligence related
positions that it could be a positive
factor there, but then taking away
potentially in displacements that uh
we're starting to see pop up as a
negative factor. and therefore it's not
clear if the trend is net positive or
net negative at this point.
>> So is it your base case then that when
we get those numbers on Friday that we
are going to see a negative print?
>> I think my base case is that we're going
to see a very close to zero print and it
could be negative. I think that that's
not going to be reflected per se in the
uh the unemployment uh number which is
4.1%
presently and is projected to be 4.1% uh
for the coming month but uh it will be a
demonstrabably negative effect on
non-farm payrolls and that could it
makes the chance very high that the
number could be negative again. Thank
you, Ed. As always, good to get you on
before a jobs Friday. That's Ed
Harrison, senior strategist for
Bloomberg News and the author of the
Everything Risk Newsletter. Let's take a
look now at some stocks making news in
the week ahead. I'm Nathan Hager, joined
by Bloomberg equities reporter Matthew
Griffin. So, we're kind of at the tail
end of the earnings parade, but we've
got some uh pretty big names reporting
this week, including Palo Alto Networks
out with its results on Tuesday. Where's
the bar for PaloAlto after the strong
results we got from a crowd strike when
it comes to cyber security, Matthew?
>> Well, Nathan, the bar is pretty high. I
was looking at analysts expectations for
Palo Alto. That's ticker PW,
and they're looking for about 30%
year-over-year revenue growth. This
comes as all of these cyber names are
now considered AI beneficiaries.
companies are spending more on cyber
security because they're worried about
things like this trend of models hacking
companies like Anthropic's decision not
to even release the Claude Mythos 5
model to the general public because of
its cyber capabilities
and it's really remarkable what's
happened in the stock market as a result
you know the first couple months of this
year these were considered AI disruption
candidates they were SAS apocalypse
names and They all traded down as a
result. Now they have rallied. And so my
question would be what is the buy side
looking for here? The valuation has
spiked above 90 times forward earnings.
Those are levels not seen in more than a
decade. So I am wondering what will be
enough for investors here.
>> Yeah, I mean that's a really good point
given that you know since the start of
the year we've already seen just Palo
Alto alone nearly double its stock
market value. I mean you have to wonder
whether there is further upside from
here.
>> Yes. I mean with AI you know you you
look at what's happened to a lot of the
AI winners. You can never discount it.
But we have seen some of the names for
example uh some of the chip names
moderating uh their own share growth in
recent months. And so the question I
guess would be when will that happen for
the cyber names?
>> Absolutely. Um, we're going to hear from
another one of those uh names and at
least in the tech space on Wednesday
when we get results from Broadcom after
that day's closing bell. Another AI bell
weather after the the blowout outlook we
saw from Nvidia this past week. Can we
expect something similar from from
Broadcom, do you think?
>> Well, the real question here is what is
Broadcom going to say about, you know,
whether they see blowout revenue in the
future. So the bar for this company
that's ticker AVgo for their key revenue
stream the AI chip revenue is not
necessarily that high in terms of
analyst expectations for this quarter.
It's about in line with their $16
billion outlook for the quarter. But for
next year analysts are expecting revenue
from AI chips of about $120 billion.
that would imply six-fold growth over
two years, you know, compared to the
last full year we have numbers for. And
so, City says that 2027 outlook or
commentary or anything we get from the
company is going to be really important.
The quarterly outlook for that revenue
stream really disappointed investors
when they gave it in June. The stock
fell 13% in a day. So, we'll see if this
report can reignite optimism. We could
also learn more about their sales deals
with major AI players or these chip
financing deals. Our colleagues have
reported the company's in talks with
lenders to raise more than $60 billion
in debt for a deal that would benefit
Anthropic and other companies and
investors are going to be eager to hear
if there are any developments on that
front.
>> Yeah, absolutely. And you know, given
what we heard, like I said, from Nvidia
just this past week about, you know, how
much revenue they expect to get from the
uh still continuing AI demand here. Uh I
guess I wonder whether uh it's one of
those uh rising tides that lifts all
boats kind of situation that could
benefit for Broadcom. Is that kind of
what analysts are thinking right now?
>> It's what Wall Street is hoping.
Broadcom has positioned itself as a key
competitor to Nvidia, but Nvidia is
still the market leader. And so we do go
into these reports wondering how much
they will benefit from the rising tide.
That positioning though as a key
competitor, it does mean this report
will tell us a lot about the broader AI
infrastructure complex. So, anything
that confirms that bullish outlook from
Nvidia, which was for about 70% revenue
growth in the next fiscal year, that
would be a positive and it would start
offsetting some of the concerns about
the AI trade that are growing. We're
seeing falling token prices that
complicates the return on investment
question. And something I've been
reporting a lot on a lot is these
regulatory concerns, the public push
back to data centers and what that can
mean for AI infrastructure spending.
>> Along with the chip names, we're also
going to hear from a retail name uh the
athleisure company Lululemon on
Thursday. It feels like the turnaround
just keeps waiting for Lululemon,
Matthew.
>> Yes, Nathan. And this stock, ticker LLU,
it really is a case of low expectations
this quarter. Analysts are expecting
revenue to just barely grow to be up
about 1%.
But even clearing that bar is not
guaranteed. I mean, we could list a lot
of headwinds facing this company.
Increased competition from companies
like Vori, product launch issues like
the see-through leggings, criticism from
their founder, Chip Wilson. And then
there's the question of how much credit
investors are going to give anything
that they say about those issues this
quarter because they have a new CEO
Heidi O'Neal taking over next month.
That could change the narrative. It
could change the strategy. Maybe it will
finally put that turnaround into effect.
One thing that I am going to be
interested to see from this company is
what they say about tariff refunds. They
have spent a lot on tariffs. It's been a
key cost bucket. They've said they're
applying for refunds, but that they
didn't factor that into guidance. So,
that could be a source of upside to
consensus here if those refunds come
through. Maybe not high quality, durable
upside, but something that would help
investors as they wait for a broader
rebound in their sales.
>> All right, really appreciate this,
Matthew. Thanks for coming on with us.
That's Bloomberg Equities reporter
Matthew Griffin. And coming up on
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suddenly it's like, wait, that's the
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>> This is Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend, our
global look ahead at the top stories for
investors in the coming week. I'm Nathan
Hager in Washington. Up later in the
program, we'll look ahead to some key
economic data in South Korea. But first,
in the coming days, voters head to the
polls for state elections in Eastern
Germany. The far-right alternative for
Germany party is set to put in a strong
performance in the industryheavy state
of Saxony on halt. So what could the
vote mean for Germany's future, its
politics, its economy, and for the rest
of Europe? For more, let's go to London
and bring in Bloomberg Daybreak Europe
anchor Caroline Heb. Nathan, you might
be wondering why regional elections in
Germany could change the outlook for
European politics. While the far-right
AFD party, the alternative for
Deutseland, is comfortably ahead in the
polls for the Saxony Anhalt election in
the next few days. And if the Aft wins,
it would see the far right gain control
of a German state government for the
first time since the Second World War. A
strong showing for the anti-immigration
party could further complicate
policymaking for Chancellor Friedrich
Mertz's flagging government coalition.
Debates are live in Europe's largest
economy around migration, the war in
Ukraine, and the cost of living. And to
make matters worse for Chancellor Mertz,
one of the key automakers in the
country, the industrial giant Volkvaren
says that Germany will have to shoulder
tens of thousands of additional job
carts. That's bad news for regional
economic disparity and for Mertz's CDU
party ahead of this vote. Here is
Bloomberg's industrials reporter Will
Wilks. for workers and maybe more for
the German state. This is an urgent
problem for them. The German state is
already part of Volkswagen through lower
Saxony and what the German state wants
is the best possible outcome for jobs.
Obviously, German politics is very
heated up at the moment. There's a
regional election coming up where the
far right might make a major
breakthrough and what the German
government really wants to see is
solutions found for workers that does
not kind of heat up politics anymore.
That was Bloomberg's industrials
reporter Will Wilks there. Chancellor
Mertz says that he can spearhead a
German economic recovery saying that it
has the potential to exceed 1% GDP
growth next year. But what do voters in
Saxony and Halt think? Joining us now is
Camille Kavula who is our German finance
and economy ministry reporter who also
covers AFD the party and Jenny Tier who
is our deputy bureau chief in Germany.
Welcome to both of you and thank you for
speaking to us. Jenny, can I start with
you? First of all, why do these state
elections in Germany actually matter for
German politics and for the future of
the country? Yeah, they matter because
they'll send a strong signal to the
government in Berlin and Chancellor Mays
basically saying we don't like what
you're doing and we feel neglected. So
if the far right really wins, that means
getting an absolute majority and
actually being in executive power, then
this would be historical for Germany and
and definitely send waves to the
government in Berlin and yeah, the
pressure will definitely increase then
and that's going to be a problem for an
already quite fragile coalition there.
>> Yeah. So maybe a protest vote in some
senses, a big signal to the government
in Berlin. Camel, tell us about AFD's
controversial, it must be said,
candidate Olri Sigund in terms of why
he's important as a figurehead and the
issues that he's been campaigning on.
>> So what are the Sigmans? The the FD's
top candidates, he's also the FD's, you
could say, more approachable face,
right? He's he's young. He's
charismatic. He's highly effective on
social media as well. And he doesn't
look or or sound radical, which which
makes him also an option for voters who
might otherwise hesitate to support a
farright party. But in terms of
policies, um he's he's quite in line
with the federal AFD. He campaigns for
tougher immigration controls, more
deportations, opposes support for
Ukraine, saying that it's at the expense
of of German taxpayers while also
calling for rebuilding relations with
with Russia.
>> What does the polling look like at the
moment currently in the last few days?
>> The FD is far ahead. They're at around
42%
so it's like 20 20 percentage points in
front of the conservatives, Matt
Conservatives. So, it looks like they're
going to win. The only question is if
it's going to be an outright majority.
>> Jenny, what does the polling look like
for Fredick Mertz's CDU? And why has
Mertz shown sort of difficulty? Why do
you think that there is this popularity
it would seem for the AfD?
>> Yeah, I think a lot of people are quite
frustrated which is also showing in in
the national polling numbers the AFD is
ahead. um I think 8 to nine percentage
points of the conservatives and this is
obviously a problem for for Mads and his
coalition. I think one of the root
causes on the one hand is the German
economy been stagnating for quite a
while pretty sluggish growth and also
there's a lot of insecurity because
especially in the industry sector in the
car industry which is under a lot of
pressure from China and tens of
thousands of jobs are in danger. So
people are not really certain about
their future and this is what kind of
draws them of course to seemingly easy
solutions um and and populism from from
either side.
>> So yeah, I think this is why the the
government is really looking um to the
east and hoping for the best.
>> Yeah. Camel AFD supporters oppose also
more aid to Ukraine and they maybe think
that the money should be spent on
domestic issues. How important is that
issue to think about uh in the
motivation of of voters the Russia
Ukraine issue?
>> It's quite important. It's quite a
polarizing issue like migration or it
has become a quite polarizing issue. DFD
or Sigman, they use Ukraine as a symbol
of of of a government that finds money
for international commitments while
local schools, roads and hospitals in
Germany deteriorate. So he he draws on
also on on on a kind of East German
grievance, the belief that the former
East has been neglected by Berlin. And
the message also draws on a stronger
pro-Russian sentiment in in parts of
Eastern Germany. also concerns about
energy prices and the deep distrust of
the political establishment in Berlin.
>> So a lot of maybe some concerns also and
different attitudes maybe towards
Russia. Having said that, Germany's
counter intelligence have warned of a
Russell linked influence campaign on
these elections. So that also remains
something of an issue of of whether that
influence campaign is is going to
deliver some results.
>> That's true. Um, German intelligence has
warned about Russia linked
disinformation campaigns, but currently
there's no evidence that the election
itself will not be free or or fair. So,
it's true it's taking place in a rather
manipulated and and hostile information
environment. And that's all like
Russia's broad hybrid war strategy,
right? like weakening trust in
democratic institutions and helping
parties that are maybe less critical of
Moscow and social media makes of course
all those campaigns more effective but
yeah as you know Germany is not alone
facing this problem it's it's other
European democracies and especially the
United States are confronted with with a
similar problem right
>> yeah absolutely then to a thought about
what in Germany is called the firewall
do you think that that cracks in Germany
this is the idea that other political
parties won't work with the AFD even if
they are elected, you know, that that
has happened in the past. Do you think
that that is eroded if the AFD does
particularly well at a regional level?
I don't expect the firewall to fall. I
expect it to remain at least formally in
place after the election. But an AFD win
would definitely put it under enormous
pressure, especially if the party falls
just short of an outright majority and
need a governing partner because then
the whole discussion about the firewall
and this could trigger a serious debate
inside the Conservatives um over whether
this refusal to cooperate with the FD is
still sustainable and if this strategy
which Matts put in place um has already
failed. So the pressure especially on
merits would be particularly intense
because also parts of the conservatives
um are ideologically closer to the AFD
than the social democrats or the greens
are. Um there might also be some CDU
lawmakers who jump ship and and join
AFD.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And of course there are two
tests aren't there coming up. There's
the election in Saxony Anhalt which is
on the 6th of September and then there's
another regional vote on the 20th of
September. Jenny, let me bring you in
then. What do you think an AFD victory
would mean, not just for Germany, but
also for Europe and for the far right
and this sort of whole process? So if
the AFD wins, the government will be
under increasing amount of pressure and
also specifically MATS and he will be
basically fighting for his political
survival and of course his focus then
will probably shift more to the domestic
side and because M is a very strong
supporter of of Ukraine this might have
an effect on yeah basically the EU's
support of of Ukraine because if they
lose Germany as a supporter then of
course I'm going to have a huge problem
and and in general I think people will
be especially of course Germany's
neighbor will be very suspicious because
they might think okay have the Germans
um forgotten their history because the
AFD is saying well let's let's move on
let's not remember all what's happened
in the past you know we're different
people now let's move on and I think the
majority of the Germans still very much
remember the history. We have a huge
so-called inong school tour um the
remembrance culture here in Germany
where the Nazi pass is definitely huge
part of our education and and people
know about it and are aware about it.
But of course, as a German neighbor, um
I can definitely understand if if some
of Germany's neighbors are not feeling
particularly good about these kind of
developments.
>> Well, we'll leave it there. Camille
Kavula, our German finance and economy
ministry reporter, and Jenny Tier, our
deputy bureau chief in Germany. Thank
you for your thoughts. I'm Caroline
Hepker. You can catch us every weekday
morning here for Bloomberg Daybreak
Europe beginning at 6:00 a.m. in London.
That's 1:00 a.m. on Wall Street. Nathan,
>> thanks Caroline. And coming up on
Bloomberg Daybreak weekend, we look
ahead to some key inflation data in
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got a new favorite food."
>> That's the reaction a lot of people are
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>> Yeah. It's the one with the red cap and
the little baby on the bottle. You've
probably seen it at the grocery store.
>> And this mayo is different.
>> Mhm. Most mayonnaise uses whole eggs. Qi
only uses egg yolks, which gives it this
rich umami flavor. It's smoother,
deeper, almost buttery.
>> Once people try it, they start putting
it on everything. Egg sandwiches, fries,
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>> Chefs use it. Restaurants use it. People
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>> Put it on just about anything.
>> Then you'll understand.
>> Q.B. The original Japanese mayonnaise.
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>> This is Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend. Our
global look ahead of the top stories for
investors in the coming week. I'm Nathan
Hager in Washington. South Korea will
report on inflation in the week ahead.
The question is whether the numbers
point to another rate hike from the Bank
of Korea. For more, we turn to Doug
Krer, host of the Bloomberg Daybreak
Asia podcast. Thanks, Nathan. Consumer
inflation in South Korea has remained at
or above the central bank's 2% target
for nearly a year now. A key driver of
those higher prices has been the robust
exports of semiconductors. For a closer
look at what's happening on the ground
in South Korea, I'm joined by
Bloomberg's Cat Barton. Cat is our
bureau chief in Soul. She joins us now.
Thank you for being here. There is a lot
to look at and a number of different
aspects that I'm hoping to get to. But
if we can start with the macroeconomy
since we are expecting this inflation
data in the coming week. Give me a sense
of what is happening and what the market
is expecting.
>> We're definitely uh expecting some
interesting data next week. The key
thing for the August inflation figures
is actually going to be that we know
that we're going to see a surge or we we
expect to see a surge partly because we
had SK Telecom last year was giving huge
discounts due to a whole bunch of leaks
and issues like that on mobile charges.
So once those significant kind of 50%
discounts are eradicated, we know that's
going to uh hit the August figures. But
obviously as you say overall the Bank of
Korea flagged that they're they're very
worried. The projection is obviously
2.5% both for 2025 and for 2026 for core
and it's a lot as you say due to these
absolutely roaring um exports of
semiconductors. The export figures for
July were extremely robust. We were
seeing nearly like 180% surge in the
chip exports while shipments you know of
kind of computer related more generally
products were 400%. I mean it's this
incredibly strong um external demand for
South Korea's semiconductors because
obviously Samsung electronics SKH highex
are key suppliers for Nvidia and for the
other hyperscalers um and that demand
remains really robust which is really
impacting the economy here.
>> So I want to take a closer look at the
chip story in a moment but let's reflect
back on the last week in the Bank of
Korea raising its policy rate by 25
basis points. I believe it's now at 3%.
That's after a rate hike in July. So, if
I'm reading this correctly, that's the
first time that we have seen
back-to-back rate hikes from the Bank of
Korea in more than three years. And I
found it very curious that when the head
of the BOK was kind of describing the
rationale for the move, he likened
monetary policy to a gardening tool.
Help me understand what unfolded.
>> It was probably the most interesting
Bank of Korea press conference we've had
in a long time. governor reached for
this uh gardening metaphor to explain
what was going on uh for his
back-to-back rate hikes. In Korean,
there's a local proverb that warns
against kind of delaying action. I guess
the English equivalent would be like a
stitch in time saves nine. But
basically, he was saying if we don't
contain a problem with a homie, which is
like this very small handheld Korean
plow, you will eventually need to use a
far larger shovel implement to fix this
problem. So he's basically saying we
need to act now otherwise this problem
is going to get a lot worse and we're
going to have to throw a lot more at it
to contain it. So that was he returned
to this gardening metaphor about half a
dozen times during the the press
conference to explain why he's hiked
rates back to back because they really
really really want to prevent inflation
from becoming entrenched and they want
to reduce the kind of eventual economic
cost of bringing it under control. So
you mentioned a moment ago the
inflationary forces that are tied to
what's happening in the semiconductor
industry in South Korea. Obviously we
have seen globally this buildout of AI
data centers. It's created enormous
demand for high bandwidth memory chips
made by companies like SKHix and
Samsung. And I'm wondering how much the
wage story is a part of the inflation
story, whether workers at these
production facilities are being
compensated increasingly well. And that
perhaps is one of the drivers here of
what's happening with inflation in South
Korea.
>> That is absolutely the case. It's not
even hit yet really, but that is what
the Bank of Korea is really worried
about because we're seeing workers at
Samsung Electronics, workers at SKH
Highix being offered these huge bonuses
that could um equate to, you know,
$400,500,000
like enormous bonuses and annual bonuses
which could continue for years as long
as the companies continue to hit uh
certain performance targets that were
agreed with the with the unions.
So definitely that is what the Bank of
Korea is is worrying is going to to
percolate through that demand side
pressure because of the sharp increases
in wages for semiconductor workers. And
remember that hasn't even actually
started hitting yet. The wage agreements
were announced, the bonus deals were
announced, but they won't actually be
getting those bonuses until 2027. So
it's already just anticipation that
we're seeing like property prices in the
areas around the FABS starting to rise
really steeply. We're seeing all of that
kind of anticipation of these huge
payouts percolate through even to the
dating sites like um if you're a Samsung
electronics or an SK um high
semiconductor engineer you're now one of
the most desirable people on like a
matchmaking site in South Korea. So it's
really starting to to trickle out
through the whole economy through the
whole of South Korean society because
they are one of the few countries
globally who are already making like
tremendous amounts of money from this AI
buildout. So with that, are we expecting
these companies, whether it's an SKH
Heinix or a Samsung, to expand chip
production overall? And would that not
then feed into the inflation narrative?
>> It's a really big question in South
Korea because the government recently
announced that they want to invest $880
billion in building out a new chip hub
in the south of the country. So at the
moment, all of the semiconductor
production is clustered around Seoul. So
the government's argument is that, you
know, we need to diversify. There's too
much pressure on this area already.
There's not enough, you know,
electricity. There's not enough
infrastructure. So they've proposed
building out this huge new um chips hub
in the south in Guangju. Samsung and SK
have have agreed. They're they're on
board with this massive project and that
it certainly they see very robust
demand. The the companies are saying
that they see it extending through 2027,
2028, 2029, etc., etc. So expanding
capacity could be a huge thing but again
already the impact of that on the local
area on the South Korean economy will
have to be very carefully managed indeed
but it's a huge priority for the
government because they view South
Korea's position in the kind of global
semiconductor chain as like a you know
it's a national strategic asset for them
and this administration is extremely
eager to capitalize on South Korea's
place in that semiconductor supply chain
and use this kind of momentum to help
balance regional development velment in
the country.
>> So what about moving production to the
United States? Where are we in that
process? I know that there have been
some commitments made, some
manufacturing is happening. I mean,
where are we in that process right now?
That is a very good question because
South Korea has obviously signed a $350
billion trade deal with the US but they
haven't actually started any of the the
deals under that massive agreement
unlike Japan for example which has
already you know announced a lot of a
lot of projects that are going ahead. So
what we are hearing is that the US is
not particularly happy about that and uh
they're not especially not happy. I mean
South Korea has denied some of these
reports but we've seen local media
reports here saying that Soul is coming
under quite a lot of pressure from
Washington to announce kind of big built
semiconductor projects in the US.
Obviously, there are some already. We
have groundbreaking this week with an
SKH Highix project, but I think from
Washington's perspective, they would
like to see a lot more investment state
side to see this the these these fabs
being constructed there, to see South
Korean companies investing more and
announcing bigger projects, especially
under this trade deal, which has been,
you know, progressing far more slowly
than US President Donald Trump would
like to see. And I think some of that
may have come through last week when
Trump announced this very unexpected
move to to cail um joint military drills
with the South. Some of that was uh
reportedly linked to dissatisfaction
about how slowly they were moving on the
$350 billion trade deal.
>> But I'm curious about how Trump's effort
to revive diplomacy with North Korean
leader Kim Jong-un is being received in
Soul. Well, it's a tricky one because it
actually chimes very well with what
President Liam Jamyong of South Korea
himself wants to do. Since he came into
office, he's taken steps to reduce
tensions with North Korea. He's taken
steps to, you know, to to stop things
like propaganda broadcasts at the border
to stop, you know, floating activists
floating balloons with um propaganda
into North Korea, which infuriates the
Kim Jong-un regime. and Li Jayung hailed
Trump's announcement saying yes I mean
because from the perspective of the
South Korean government they see that
Trump in his very unorthodox way does
perhaps have the best chance of anyone
of making some kind of breakthrough with
North Korea and potentially helping to
to end this war. Remember that that
South Korea and North Korea remain
technically at war even um since the the
1950s because the the conflict ended
with an armistice not a peace treaty. So
actually the government in Seoul is
quite happy about it. But at the same
time they fear very much being cut out
of that process because North Korea does
not show any signs of wanting to talk to
Soul. They were refused basically to
engage directly. They prefer to engage
with the US which is you know what they
want. Although in fairness after Trump
posted his social media uh screed saying
that he was you know had very good ties
with Kim Jong-un, Kim Jong-un's very
powerful sister Kimo Jong came out and
said actually you know casting doubt on
whether there had been any direct
communication saying that they still
regarded the US as hostile saying uh
yesterday they were complaining about
potential arm sales by the US to to
South Korea. So it doesn't seem that the
that President Trump's move have paved
the way for an imminent breakthrough,
although obviously every every little
helps in this in this tricky situation.
Kat, before I let you go, I have to ask
about how South Korea is cultivating a
deeper relationship with Japan because I
recall reading in the last week on the
Bloomberg terminal that SKH Heinix is
exploring ways to deepen its cooperation
with the memory chip maker Kyoka
Holdings. Give me a sense of what's
happening in the relationship right now
between Soul and Tokyo.
>> It's interesting. they are looking at
how they can kind of deepen cooperation
with Japanese customers and and
suppliers. SKH Highix did indeed say
that um earlier this week um because
obviously it's a very important you know
it's a very important market for them.
They're very important uh you know
customers but they basically they don't
have any what what the SKH was saying is
that they don't have any kind of fixed
plans uh for their kind of indirect
stake in the in the Japanese. I think
it's uh what they would like to do is
see basically Japan you know develop
more because much as they're doing like
for example they were doing this
groundbreaking in Indiana uh where
they've invested obviously more than
like I think 4 billion they would like
to help develop you know in the Japanese
semiconductor industry also which is a
key um a key part uh of maybe boosting
the their neighbor helping to to um
diversify but yes it's not direct
competition for SK it wouldn't be you
know that they would necessarily be
losing out as a result of this. I think
they see it as a win-win. They see it as
some, you know, that they can help their
neighboring uh Japanese chipmaker to
kind of uh to develop and grow. And you
know, as they are doing in the US, it
works it works with the chimes with the
kind of Lee Jamyong administration's
priorities to boost ties with these two
security allies. Both, you know, Japan
and and the US are very important
security allies for them. They've just
announced that they're doing, you know,
joint uh trilateral military drills. And
I think the growing economic
cooperation, you know, feeds into that.
Uh, also
>> Cat, we'll leave it there. Thank you so
very much. Bloomberg's Cat Barton. She
is our bureau chief in Soul. I'm Doug
Krer. You can catch us weekdays for the
Daybreak Asia podcast. It's available
wherever you get your podcast. Nathan,
>> thanks Doug. And that does it for this
edition of Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend.
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