Here's uh of all people Jake Sullivan,

the national security adviser to

President Biden for the four years that

President Biden was in uh the White

House. Uh basically saying the Iranians

outsmarted Trump's real estate agents.

Cut number three. If you just look at

how they work, the wording of the

agreements they do, they are highly

detailoriented, not just because they're

lawyerly, but because they want to

extract benefits from those details.

Just one example from theou the

provision that says the US would wave

sanctions refers to oil and then there's

this little clause that says and

derivatives what are derivatives the

prochemical sector that is the second

largest sector in Iran now do I think

the US really even understood what it

was signing with that maybe not but Iran

knew it would get billions and billions

of dollars just by inserting that word

and that's why you bring a very large

delegation because you're looking for

every advantage

in this highly complex, detailed

negotiation. And I think as long as

they're bringing that expertise and

we're only bringing a couple guys, it

will be advantage Iran.

>> They're bringing expertise, he's being

charitable, and we're bringing two New

York City real estate agents. I

>> I actually think this is all nonsense.

Uh I I think that basically he's arguing

that we were fleeced that it was

inexperience that produced uh this

document, this surrender document. It it

wasn't the fact that we were fleeced. It

reflected the balance of courts of

power. Uh look, those documents that

were floated around before we reached an

agreement on the final memorandum of

understanding on June 17th

>> and the final is almost the same as the

initial that they proposed.

>> Yes, it is. But you know, we proposed uh

a counter document, right? There were a

number of documents floating around.

There were endless negotiations

on these documents. I find it hard to

believe that we didn't look over every

word. And the reason that we had to

swallow

uh all of these provisions that were to

Iran's advantage and our disadvantage

was because the balance of coercive

power decisively favored the Iranians.

So, how did Iran defeat the United

States and Israel? How do you make sense

out of Iran's military victory? Well,

first of all, it had the military

capability to shut down the straight and

in effect threatened to take the

international economy off a cliff. Uh,

President Trump likes to talk about how

he destroyed the Iranian Navy and the

Iranian Air Force. He may have destroyed

a big chunk of each of those

institutions, but the fact is that the

Iranians were left with enough military

power they could that they could shut

the straight and keep the shut and keep

the straight shut down. So that's the

first major point. The second point is

they have a significant missile

capability, mainly ballistic missiles,

but also cruise missiles as well as

drones. And they have the ability to do

enormous damage to our bases in the

region and to the infrastructure in the

six Gulf States. In addition, they have

the ability to pound Israel with those

ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and

drones. So if you get into a shooting

match with them, which we did, we could

only go 40 days and we had to quit. It

is very important to understand that we

quit after 40 days without a victory.

This is the air war because we were

running out of precious munitions. And

furthermore, we were running out of

targets to hit. We had hit so many

targets. The fact is that the Iranians

could absorb an enormous amount of

punishment. No,

>> we didn't find ourselves in a position

where we could uh dish out more

punishment because again we were running

out of munitions. This is what I say

when the balance of course of power

favored the Iranians. This is what

happened. Here's why I think um

uh Trump will dismiss Sahath. Why didn't

the Pentagon plan for that? Why didn't

they warn Trump about it? How could they

not have foreseen these events? Did they

fall? Did the Pentagon fall as Trump

fell hooked, line, and sinker for what

Mossad and Netanyahu said to Trump?

Well, I distinguish between Hegsith and

General Kaine, who's the chairman of the

Joint Chiefs of Staff. And my memory

tells me very clearly that before

February 28th, uh when we were talking

about attacking Iran, uh General Kaine

made it clear that we had a serious

problem uh in terms of the amount of

munitions that we had for a war against

Iran. So I think that Kaine was not

enthusiastic at all about this war. Uh

all the evidence is that Hegsith was.

Uh, so I think that there were voices in

the Pentagon for sure who said that this

was not a good idea. And you want to

remember from that famous New York Times

article that detailed what the

negotiating process between the Israelis

and the Americans looked like in the

runup to the war. It seems clear from

that article that almost all of uh

Trump's advisers except for Hexith

thought that uh going to war against

Iran the way we did on February 28th uh

was not going to work out. It appears

that it was Netanyahu and David Barnea

who was to Adam Assad plus Hegsith who

who were the real hawks here and uh

played the key role in convincing Trump

that this was a good idea.