The Biden administration just like

really screwed up our immigration policy

in a profoundly dangerous way.

>> But even if you agree that immigration

is a problem, it seems division is the

most compelling narrative for

politicians. I remember this particular

quote about the black community where he

said

>> What do you have to lose?

>> I'm a black man. I feel like I've got

things to lose. And my concern is when

the Western narrative is that it's the

brown people that are the reason that

your life is hard or like Mexicans and

murderers. If I heard that from my

political leaders, it's conceivable that

I might be angry at my neighbor even

though they've done nothing.

>> But let me just say very often what the

president is accused of saying he didn't

say it or there was much greater

context. You wouldn't say that. But I

but but I think look, the president and

I certainly have way different styles.

But Donald Trump is much different as a

human being than the media makes him out

to be.

>> But back in 2016, there was a private

message between you and your roommate

where you said Trump was either a

cynical also or America's Hitler.

How do you go [music] from that position

to

vice president of the same person? What

what is that journey?

>> A crazy journey, man. But look, I

thought Donald Trump would be a failed

president. He was not. I thought that

America's institutions were

fundamentally functioning. They were

not. You always have to be able to

acknowledge when you're right and when

you're wrong. Like he's so

non-conventional in the way that he does

everything that things that were

previously unimaginable are actually on

the table.

>> Like this peace deal with Iran, for

example. But there's been lots of false

deals.

>> Well, this one's real. So. [music]

>> And Israel, Trump called Netanyahu a

very difficult guy. What does Netanyahu

want?

>> I don't know.

>> All I'd say is that we're different

countries with different interests.

>> Do you trust them?

>> I don't really trust anybody. But having

seen the president of the United States

operate, I feel quite confident that

they are the junior partner, we're the

senior partner, we are the world's

superpower.

>> I'm going to take a little bit of a hot

turn.

Do you think aliens could be real?

>> I do.

>> Mr. Vice President, I had no idea about

your earliest contacts.

>> Mhm.

>> And it hasn't formed what I've then seen

from you later as an adult. But can you

take me back?

>> The emotions still right on the surface

for you.

>> Very much so.