Where to invest in a multipolar world (WW3?)
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What's up, guys? I'm an early retired
quant trader and I want to help you
think about how to manage your personal
investments in this rapidly changing
geopolitical environment. Let's get into
it. So, I want to start by saying that
the conventional wisdom that the S&P 500
always goes up 8 to 10% annually is just
American propaganda. It doesn't have to
go up 8 to 10% annually. It has
historically, but mostly because the
United States has gone from a regional
power to the global hegeimon, the
superpower of the world. The United
States pushes this propaganda because
they want you to invest in their country
and they want you to park your
hard-earned cash. And it's the same way
with the real estate industry within the
United States, how they'll always say
things like home ownership is the
American dream and oh, it's a right of
passage. Renting is just making your
landlord rich. You know, like things
like this are just propaganda to get you
to make a 5:1 leveraged bet, the biggest
purchase of your life and have it be on
American soil. So, you're locked in and
you have to continue to work to pay off
your mortgage. That's why home ownership
is pushed so hard as well in the United
States. So, you probably know this, but
the stock market loosely tracks the
economic health of a country. The stock
market generally goes up as the GDP
grows in the country. And that's not
going to completely track, but over a
long enough time period, that's
generally true. The reason they can kind
of decouple from time to time is because
the stock market also prices in
sentiment, bullish or bearish sentiment,
because people are using the stock
market to attempt to frontr run the
actual economy. So the stock market can
kind of drift up if it's bullish and it
can kind of drift down if it's bearish.
But over a long enough time period um
the the stock market generally converges
with the actual health of the country.
And so when you talk about where to
invest your money uh you are believe it
or not placing a geopolitical bet on the
future economic health of that country.
More and more especially today deciding
where to invest simply boils down to
geopolitics. And that wasn't true over
the last h 100red years or so as a US
citizen because the US was separated
from the Eurasian land mass and they
generally just experienced slow and
steady growth. With the rise of China
and us entering this new multipolar
world, there is a serious risk of that
trend actually ending. So as an example,
Japan was projected to surpass the
United States in total GDP in the 80s. A
lot of people probably wouldn't remember
this, but they were on a trajectory
where they would overtake the United
States. And you saw this in pop culture
and things like Back to the Future 2
where Marty McFlyy's boss was a Japanese
dude. And you saw it with things like
Nakatomi Tower in the Die Hard films.
There were a lot of illusions to fear in
the West that Japan was going to become
the new global hgeimon. But then what
happened, right? The United States made
Japan sign the Plaza Accord, which Japan
really had no choice but to sign because
Japan is basically a vassel to the
United States. And that's basically
where the Japanese economy peaked. And
then it basically stagnated and crashed
for multiple decades, the lost decades
as they say. It took 35 years for the
NIK to catch up to where it was back in
1990. You know, it's an example of a
developed first world country where an
investment would have gone nowhere for
35 years. That can certainly happen to
the United States as well. The lesson to
learn is that no matter how productive
the country is and how dedicated the
citizens of that country are, at the end
of the day, it boils down to
geopolitics. The United States is the
more powerful country and Japan is the
vassal state to the United States. So
the United States was never going to let
Japan, their own vassel, overtake them
economically. And so once Japan reached
roughly 70% of the US GDP, the United
States just came out and said, "All
right, we're going to make you sign this
treaty and twisted their arm and
basically put Japan in its place." And
when China's GDP reached roughly 70% of
the US GDP, that's also when the United
States decided that they're going to try
to twist China's arm to put China in its
place. And this is just geopolitics. A
lot of people get lost in the weeds
about, oh, what what does the Plaza Cord
do? Oh, wait. So, you're pegging the
currency or oh, so you're you're rolling
short-term bonds into long-term bonds
and they're focusing on the wrong thing.
The idea isn't to get lost in the
details of what's happening in economic
policy because economic policy can be
interpreted in so many different ways.
The greater point is that you can put a
black box over the event where the
inputs to the black box is which country
is more powerful and the output to the
black box is the more powerful country
is going to get their way. So business
between the two countries moving forward
will now benefit the more powerful
country. And sure it may sound cynical
but if you study history this is true.
It really boils down to understanding
which countries are positioned better
and are more powerful and investing in
those countries. And so it's no surprise
that the United States and the S&P 500
is the most performant stock index in
the world over the last 50 plus years,
over the last 100 years in fact. And it
raises the questions of should I invest
in China as they may supplant the United
States. But first, let's talk about war.
Since we are at war in Iran and we're in
uncertain economic times, if we talk
about World War I and World War II, it
may surprise you to find out that the
United States stock market actually
performed well over both World Wars. And
it may seem unintuitive because the
world is at war, but the United States
was well positioned and they were
producing a lot. And and in terms of how
businesses measure GDP and which
companies are represented within these
indices, it makes sense that the United
States stock market did well. So war can
actually boost GDP. Of course, it
depends, right? Uh the UK, their stock
market collapsed during World War II,
and that would make sense seeing as
Germany was dropping bombs all over them
and a lot of business came to a
screeching halt. But again, the United
States is geographically blessed. It's
protected by two vast oceans with allies
to the north and the south. And they
were able to remain relatively unscathed
through both world wars. The only real
attacks on US soil are Pearl Harbor and
9/11. Neither of them really made a huge
dent on the US GDP. So, we're entering a
multipolar world now with a rising China
and Russia evolving into being the
junior partner. And a lot of people
don't realize this, but every single
thing the US does in terms of foreign
policy is about China. Is about trying
to prepare the chessboard so that they
have the upper hand in the cold war
against China. So Venezuela was mostly
about China. A lot of people were
talking about oil. The US is
self-sufficient in oil. The US does
fracking and has huge reserves. They're
not too concerned about oil. This isn't
2004. The US primarily wants control of
Venezuela so that they can control oil
shipments to China and Russia so that
they can choke out their rivals if they
need to and Cuba as well, right? Cuba is
heavily dependent on Venezuelan oil. If
the US can reclaim Cuba, it's just one
less threat in their sphere of
influence. It's similar with Iran. Yes,
people will say, "Oh, this was all about
Israel." Two things can be true at the
same time. And when you're making
geopolitical decisions, you are often
attempting to kill multiple birds with
one stone. But it was also primarily
about China. Iran sends most of their
shipments of oil to China. And so if the
US can get control of Iran, then now
with Venezuela and Iran, the US is
slowly creating choke points where they
can choke out oil to China. And why does
this matter? Well, China with its 1.3
billion people is still heavily
dependent on oil. They attempted to get
around this with the belt and road
initiative, but that's had some setbacks
and they still heavily require shipments
of oil to pass through the straight of
Mala, which is a major choke point and
the US still has the superior navy to
China. So if these tariff wars and if
this cold war really escalates and goes
from an economic war to a kinetic war,
the first chess move that the US can
play is to choke out oil shipments to
China through the straight of Mala. And
China understands this. So as you know,
there's a lot of back and forth between
the US and China over tariffs and then
China says, "Well, we produce almost all
the rare earth, so we're going to cut
off rare earth minerals to you." Being
able to choke out China by saying,
"Well, we control Venezuela and we
control Iran. we're gonna cut you off
from oil. Now, these are all attempts to
reer raise. They're all points of
leverage and this wider negotiation
between the US and China. And lastly,
there's Greenland, right? A lot of
people think, "Oh, this is a Trump
thing. Trump's just crazy." It has
nothing to do with that. Like, a lot of
these things are deterministic. People
have been talking about this for
decades. Basically, with global warming,
the ice caps are melting. So there are
new sea lanes around Greenland that are
now available that are more efficient in
terms of shipment routes for all these
different countries and uh Russia builds
these icebreaking ships. The sealanes
are going to evolve in this new world.
The US doesn't want to lose their
advantage so they're trying to establish
ground in Greenland. Coincidentally,
Greenland also has a ton of rare earth
minerals. And in this new world where we
try to move away from fossil fuels and
we try to move towards EVs and more
green energies, a lot of them are
dependent on these rare earth minerals.
It's also important for satellite
coverage, right? So there's multiple
reasons why now it's so important. I
don't even think Trump cared about
geopolitics before he became president.
He told this stuff by his adviserss. For
those of you who think that Trump is
this lunatic who's just suddenly got
obsessed with trying to annex Canada and
and Greenland, it's because those have
become now important geopolitically in
this rivalry between the US and China
and Russia. That's the main thing that's
changed in the last decade or two with
China entering the WTO. They've had this
meteoric rise. They can now supplant the
United States. So everything we thought
was the peaceful world order, it was
always just predicated on the fact that
the US was the undisputed global
hedgeimon. So international law was
basically just US law. You know, it was
all a mirage the whole time. The idea
was just that if people didn't follow
international law, the US would come in
as the global police and make them
follow it. And now that we don't have
one undisputed global hegeimon and we're
entering this period of great power
rivalry, we're seeing that it was always
a mirage. It's just might makes right.
And so China takes the South China Sea
and Obama can't do anything about it. 20
years earlier, the US would just push
China out of there. 20 years earlier in
the 1990s when China was making threats
to invade Taiwan, Bill Clinton just
floated an aircraft carrier out there
and just went like that. And then the
Chinese are really big on saving face,
but they they just had to back off. The
difference in military might was so so
vast that there was nothing China could
do. Now Obama can't just do that. You
see China practicing these military
drills around Taiwan and the United
States just can't do that anymore. Why?
Because in the last 20 years, China has
built up their navy and their their
general defense to the point where
military strategists put a war in Taiwan
at about 50/50 as to who would win
between the US and China. And China
practices asymmetric warfare. So even if
their military technology isn't on par
with the US, they are focusing
asymmetrically on only technologies that
would help them win a war in their
backyard. So they have a ton of
short-range missiles that can reach all
the way to Guam, the first and second
island chain. It's reached the point
where the US can't police the South
China Sea as effectively anymore. And so
they're asking Japan and South Korea to
boost their defense spending to try to
kind of lock arms with the US to keep
China contained. So back to finance,
right? China is trying to overtake the
United States in technology. The person
who has the technological advantage is
going to win the wars of the future. You
see this most recently with the AI race
and you see China's neck to neck. So
with the release of deepseek you saw
that the entire US tech sector collapsed
and the Chinese Hangen tech index
rallied. So you see there's a zero sum
nature between people investing in the
US tech sector versus China's tech
sector. And you also should know that
the entire US economy is
disproportionately led by tech giants
like Apple, Microsoft. And so when the
US tech sector crashed, the entire US
stock market crashed, you're seeing that
this AI tech war is going to determine
in many ways whether money is going to
flow to the US or China. And yes, with
the release of Deepseek, you saw Chinese
stocks like Alibaba rally aggressively.
That's people switching teams and
saying, I don't think the US has this. I
think China might overtake them in the
AI race. And so you're seeing this tech
arms race play out live in the financial
markets. So that said, do I think that
you should hedge and put half of your
money in Chinese tech stocks? I would
say no because China is run differently.
It's an authoritarian country. So people
in China can tell you they view their
stock market more like a casino because
the state can intervene a lot more. In
the United States, there's more of a
checks and balances between different
points of power. But, you know, as you
saw with Jack Ma and Ant Financial, the
CCP can just step in and create new
regulations to stunt certain companies
if they want to. and they can
unilaterally, you know, just provide
subsidies to another company and make
them a state champion. They can do
things like just step in and dilute
shares and this sort of creates a lot of
corruption and uncertainty in the
Chinese stock market. Yes, while that
can lead to outperformance, it can also
lead to underperformance. But more to
the point, this relationship where the
stock market tends to track the health
of the economy and the GDP growth is a
little looser in in China as compared to
the United States. It's also why the
Chinese are so obsessed with real estate
because real estate is a is a hard
tangible asset. You own it, you live in
it. So the Chinese Communist Party can't
just dilute your shares of your real
estate. And that gives the Chinese
people more sense of security. So you
see that even with the Chinese diaspora
across the world in Toronto and
Vancouver, how they bought up all the
properties, a lot of economic policy is
upstream to culture. And it's also why
the Chinese are really big on gold
because they don't trust their stock
markets. And so that pretty much leaves
real estate and precious metals as
primary investment vehicles. So what
happens if China wins the Cold War and
they take over technology? They win the
tech arms race. Will China's Shanghai
composite go to the moon in the US S&P
500 crash? No. At least that's not what
I think would happen. I think it's about
50/50. Who would win in the cold war
between the US and China in this trap?
And I think that if China wins, China is
very practical. They're businessmen. So
I think that they would want to give the
US a soft landing because the US is a
big consumption market and they would
want the US to still be successful so
that they can continue to do business
with the US. So I think that the center
of economic power would move to China
and unequal treaties will now be signed
that favor China which is what the US
had been doing to Japan and other
countries while they were the global
hedgeimon. And so you would see a
certain amount of a brain drain from
Silicon Valley to Shenzen and things
like that. people would start learning
Mandarin Chinese and trying to work for
uh you know Alibaba and places like
this. But the US stock market, the S&P
500 would perhaps go from returning 10%
annually to 5% annually. And with the
UK, that's about how much they make on
their index, right? The Footsie, right?
The Footsie averages about 5% annually.
The US will no longer be the king of the
world, but your investments will still
have positive returns. You know, you can
sort of use the handoff of the baton
from the UK to the United States as a
precedent to understand how that might
happen. There was packed bratannica in
the past in the 1800s. And once the UK
got bombed out during World War II, they
owed so much money to the United States,
they couldn't maintain their empire
anymore. They handed the baton to the
United States. And then we got PAX
Americana. That's when the US stock
market really took off post World War II
and the UK sort of stagnated. And so I
think that that's a reasonable precedent
between what could happen between China
and the United States. Because aside
from all of this tough talk by world
leaders, the world is mostly run by
billionaires. The billionaire class or
as Chimath put it 150 or so of the most
powerful families. Those people are not
these jingoistic nationalistic people.
The these people are independent of
nation. They have pride not in their
nation. They have pride in their
families and their family crest or
whatever. And so these people all work
with each other and it's in their
interest to have these powerful
countries work together because that
makes more money for them and
subsequently for us normal folks too. So
in conclusion, where's the best place to
put your money in a rapidly changing
geopolitical world? I think the United
States continues to be the best place to
put your money. Yes, you could try to
cherrypick individual Chinese tech
stocks. That may work out for you, but
it may not too because investing in
stocks in China is seen more as gambling
because of the unpredictability of how
this how the state has control over
these individual companies. And if you
invest in the US, you're either going to
win the the cold war with China and
continue their dominance and average 8
to 10% annually or they'll lose, but
China will probably give them a soft
landing and they'll average about 5%
annually from there. And at that point,
you can decide whether you want to
diversify into certain Chinese tech
companies or other places. And as far as
diversifying internationally into other
countries, I generally don't like that
play. I generally try to just allocate
my money into the strongest countries in
the world. And the reason is because, as
I've said previously, it's all just
might makes right. It's dog eat dog. All
of these economic policies and treaties,
it's just noise. What's really happening
is the strong countries are just
bullying the weak countries and so the
money will always flow up to the strong
countries. That's how this works. Anyone
who's done business knows that people at
the top are ruthless and they got there
because they're ruthless and so they're
going to always push for self-interest.
You're either going to invest in the US
or China if you want the best
performance. And that's why the United
States stock markets, you know, like S&P
500 always outperforms international
funds. Yes, there are years where
international funds like last year 20
2025 international funds outperformed
the S&P 500 and that that can happen
here and there that that'll happen in
the one-off year but on average the S&P
500 is going to outperform the aggregate
international funds that represent other
countries for the reasons I outlined
because the United States is the most
powerful country most dominant country
in the world. They're going to brain
drain other countries. So the smartest
Indians in India are going to come to
the United States to to become the CEOs
of US tech companies and so on. We're
going to skim their top 01% and brain
drain them and have them work in the
United States. That's what you can do
when you're the most powerful country in
the world. So what about
diversification? People might say, "Oh,
well even if international exposure
lowers your overall performance, maybe
it'll diversify. So it'll like smooth
out the bumps to to improve your risk
risk adjusted returns." Sure, I can
understand that argument, but generally
speaking, even internationally, the
United States is so powerful and they
already have their tentacles all over
the world. So, you already have
international exposure when you own
Coca-Cola, when you own McDonald's. You
know, if you go to Thailand, you'll see
a strip mall with a Starbucks and a
McDonald's. And you think their local
coffee chain can compete with Starbucks
or their local hamburger chain can
compete with McDonald's? The strong eat
the weak. the amount of power and
experience that the United States has in
these businesses, they can out compete
local businesses easily. That's why
China had the requirement where US
companies can only be in China if
they're majority owned by local Chinese,
right? Cuz China understood that it's it
was wise of them, frankly. You know, in
the same way that that Facebook and Mark
Zuckerberg just gobbled up WhatsApp and
just gobbled up Instagram, if there's
ever a rising threat, the more powerful
company will just choke it out or
acquire it. And so, I'm generally not
worried about international
diversification. The US already gives
you international exposure. And so, I
continue to believe that simply being
invested in the S&P 500 over the next
few decades will continue to be where
you can get the best riskadjusted
returns even as the geopolitical
environment continues to evolve. Whether
China wins the Cold War or the US wins,
investing in the US still has the
highest expected value for the reasons I
outlined. If the US wins the Cold War
with China, having bet on the US the
whole time will have given you the best
returns. If China wins, the US will get
a soft landing. Their annual returns
will flatten a little bit, probably down
to 5% or so annually. And at that point,
it might make sense for you to
selectively buy a few of the state
champions of China like Huawei or
Alibaba or 10 cent. That's how I'm
playing this this whole geopolitical
game. All right. Well, if you want to go
over your own personal investment and
early retirement strategies, I have a
Calendarly one-on-one call link in bio
if you want to book a call with me. And
uh let me know if you disagree in the
comments. Take care.
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A former quant trader discusses the deep connection between geopolitics and personal investment, challenging the narrative that the S&P 500's performance is guaranteed. He analyzes the historical suppression of Japan's economy and applies those lessons to the current US-China rivalry, exploring how US foreign policy aims to control resources like oil and rare earth minerals. Ultimately, he argues that the US remains the best investment destination due to its military might, ability to attract global talent, and the inherent risks and state intervention present in the Chinese stock market.
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