HomeVideos

Where to invest in a multipolar world (WW3?)

Now Playing

Where to invest in a multipolar world (WW3?)

Transcript

599 segments

0:03

What's up, guys? I'm an early retired

0:05

quant trader and I want to help you

0:06

think about how to manage your personal

0:08

investments in this rapidly changing

0:11

geopolitical environment. Let's get into

0:13

it. So, I want to start by saying that

0:14

the conventional wisdom that the S&P 500

0:17

always goes up 8 to 10% annually is just

0:20

American propaganda. It doesn't have to

0:22

go up 8 to 10% annually. It has

0:25

historically, but mostly because the

0:27

United States has gone from a regional

0:29

power to the global hegeimon, the

0:31

superpower of the world. The United

0:33

States pushes this propaganda because

0:35

they want you to invest in their country

0:37

and they want you to park your

0:38

hard-earned cash. And it's the same way

0:40

with the real estate industry within the

0:42

United States, how they'll always say

0:44

things like home ownership is the

0:46

American dream and oh, it's a right of

0:48

passage. Renting is just making your

0:50

landlord rich. You know, like things

0:52

like this are just propaganda to get you

0:54

to make a 5:1 leveraged bet, the biggest

0:57

purchase of your life and have it be on

0:59

American soil. So, you're locked in and

1:01

you have to continue to work to pay off

1:03

your mortgage. That's why home ownership

1:05

is pushed so hard as well in the United

1:07

States. So, you probably know this, but

1:09

the stock market loosely tracks the

1:12

economic health of a country. The stock

1:14

market generally goes up as the GDP

1:16

grows in the country. And that's not

1:19

going to completely track, but over a

1:21

long enough time period, that's

1:22

generally true. The reason they can kind

1:24

of decouple from time to time is because

1:26

the stock market also prices in

1:28

sentiment, bullish or bearish sentiment,

1:31

because people are using the stock

1:32

market to attempt to frontr run the

1:34

actual economy. So the stock market can

1:36

kind of drift up if it's bullish and it

1:38

can kind of drift down if it's bearish.

1:40

But over a long enough time period um

1:43

the the stock market generally converges

1:46

with the actual health of the country.

1:48

And so when you talk about where to

1:50

invest your money uh you are believe it

1:53

or not placing a geopolitical bet on the

1:57

future economic health of that country.

1:59

More and more especially today deciding

2:01

where to invest simply boils down to

2:04

geopolitics. And that wasn't true over

2:06

the last h 100red years or so as a US

2:09

citizen because the US was separated

2:12

from the Eurasian land mass and they

2:14

generally just experienced slow and

2:16

steady growth. With the rise of China

2:18

and us entering this new multipolar

2:20

world, there is a serious risk of that

2:23

trend actually ending. So as an example,

2:26

Japan was projected to surpass the

2:29

United States in total GDP in the 80s. A

2:32

lot of people probably wouldn't remember

2:34

this, but they were on a trajectory

2:36

where they would overtake the United

2:38

States. And you saw this in pop culture

2:40

and things like Back to the Future 2

2:42

where Marty McFlyy's boss was a Japanese

2:44

dude. And you saw it with things like

2:46

Nakatomi Tower in the Die Hard films.

2:48

There were a lot of illusions to fear in

2:50

the West that Japan was going to become

2:52

the new global hgeimon. But then what

2:54

happened, right? The United States made

2:56

Japan sign the Plaza Accord, which Japan

2:58

really had no choice but to sign because

3:00

Japan is basically a vassel to the

3:02

United States. And that's basically

3:03

where the Japanese economy peaked. And

3:06

then it basically stagnated and crashed

3:08

for multiple decades, the lost decades

3:11

as they say. It took 35 years for the

3:13

NIK to catch up to where it was back in

3:16

1990. You know, it's an example of a

3:18

developed first world country where an

3:20

investment would have gone nowhere for

3:22

35 years. That can certainly happen to

3:24

the United States as well. The lesson to

3:26

learn is that no matter how productive

3:28

the country is and how dedicated the

3:31

citizens of that country are, at the end

3:33

of the day, it boils down to

3:35

geopolitics. The United States is the

3:37

more powerful country and Japan is the

3:38

vassal state to the United States. So

3:40

the United States was never going to let

3:42

Japan, their own vassel, overtake them

3:44

economically. And so once Japan reached

3:47

roughly 70% of the US GDP, the United

3:50

States just came out and said, "All

3:51

right, we're going to make you sign this

3:53

treaty and twisted their arm and

3:55

basically put Japan in its place." And

3:57

when China's GDP reached roughly 70% of

4:00

the US GDP, that's also when the United

4:03

States decided that they're going to try

4:05

to twist China's arm to put China in its

4:07

place. And this is just geopolitics. A

4:09

lot of people get lost in the weeds

4:10

about, oh, what what does the Plaza Cord

4:13

do? Oh, wait. So, you're pegging the

4:15

currency or oh, so you're you're rolling

4:18

short-term bonds into long-term bonds

4:20

and they're focusing on the wrong thing.

4:23

The idea isn't to get lost in the

4:25

details of what's happening in economic

4:27

policy because economic policy can be

4:30

interpreted in so many different ways.

4:31

The greater point is that you can put a

4:33

black box over the event where the

4:35

inputs to the black box is which country

4:38

is more powerful and the output to the

4:40

black box is the more powerful country

4:42

is going to get their way. So business

4:45

between the two countries moving forward

4:47

will now benefit the more powerful

4:48

country. And sure it may sound cynical

4:51

but if you study history this is true.

4:53

It really boils down to understanding

4:56

which countries are positioned better

4:58

and are more powerful and investing in

5:00

those countries. And so it's no surprise

5:02

that the United States and the S&P 500

5:05

is the most performant stock index in

5:08

the world over the last 50 plus years,

5:11

over the last 100 years in fact. And it

5:13

raises the questions of should I invest

5:15

in China as they may supplant the United

5:17

States. But first, let's talk about war.

5:20

Since we are at war in Iran and we're in

5:23

uncertain economic times, if we talk

5:25

about World War I and World War II, it

5:27

may surprise you to find out that the

5:28

United States stock market actually

5:30

performed well over both World Wars. And

5:33

it may seem unintuitive because the

5:35

world is at war, but the United States

5:37

was well positioned and they were

5:39

producing a lot. And and in terms of how

5:41

businesses measure GDP and which

5:43

companies are represented within these

5:44

indices, it makes sense that the United

5:46

States stock market did well. So war can

5:49

actually boost GDP. Of course, it

5:51

depends, right? Uh the UK, their stock

5:54

market collapsed during World War II,

5:56

and that would make sense seeing as

5:58

Germany was dropping bombs all over them

6:00

and a lot of business came to a

6:02

screeching halt. But again, the United

6:03

States is geographically blessed. It's

6:06

protected by two vast oceans with allies

6:08

to the north and the south. And they

6:11

were able to remain relatively unscathed

6:13

through both world wars. The only real

6:15

attacks on US soil are Pearl Harbor and

6:18

9/11. Neither of them really made a huge

6:20

dent on the US GDP. So, we're entering a

6:24

multipolar world now with a rising China

6:26

and Russia evolving into being the

6:28

junior partner. And a lot of people

6:30

don't realize this, but every single

6:33

thing the US does in terms of foreign

6:34

policy is about China. Is about trying

6:36

to prepare the chessboard so that they

6:39

have the upper hand in the cold war

6:41

against China. So Venezuela was mostly

6:44

about China. A lot of people were

6:46

talking about oil. The US is

6:48

self-sufficient in oil. The US does

6:50

fracking and has huge reserves. They're

6:52

not too concerned about oil. This isn't

6:54

2004. The US primarily wants control of

6:58

Venezuela so that they can control oil

7:00

shipments to China and Russia so that

7:02

they can choke out their rivals if they

7:04

need to and Cuba as well, right? Cuba is

7:07

heavily dependent on Venezuelan oil. If

7:09

the US can reclaim Cuba, it's just one

7:12

less threat in their sphere of

7:13

influence. It's similar with Iran. Yes,

7:15

people will say, "Oh, this was all about

7:17

Israel." Two things can be true at the

7:19

same time. And when you're making

7:20

geopolitical decisions, you are often

7:23

attempting to kill multiple birds with

7:25

one stone. But it was also primarily

7:27

about China. Iran sends most of their

7:30

shipments of oil to China. And so if the

7:32

US can get control of Iran, then now

7:35

with Venezuela and Iran, the US is

7:38

slowly creating choke points where they

7:41

can choke out oil to China. And why does

7:43

this matter? Well, China with its 1.3

7:47

billion people is still heavily

7:48

dependent on oil. They attempted to get

7:50

around this with the belt and road

7:52

initiative, but that's had some setbacks

7:54

and they still heavily require shipments

7:56

of oil to pass through the straight of

7:57

Mala, which is a major choke point and

8:00

the US still has the superior navy to

8:02

China. So if these tariff wars and if

8:05

this cold war really escalates and goes

8:07

from an economic war to a kinetic war,

8:10

the first chess move that the US can

8:11

play is to choke out oil shipments to

8:13

China through the straight of Mala. And

8:15

China understands this. So as you know,

8:17

there's a lot of back and forth between

8:19

the US and China over tariffs and then

8:21

China says, "Well, we produce almost all

8:23

the rare earth, so we're going to cut

8:24

off rare earth minerals to you." Being

8:26

able to choke out China by saying,

8:27

"Well, we control Venezuela and we

8:29

control Iran. we're gonna cut you off

8:31

from oil. Now, these are all attempts to

8:33

reer raise. They're all points of

8:35

leverage and this wider negotiation

8:37

between the US and China. And lastly,

8:39

there's Greenland, right? A lot of

8:41

people think, "Oh, this is a Trump

8:42

thing. Trump's just crazy." It has

8:44

nothing to do with that. Like, a lot of

8:46

these things are deterministic. People

8:48

have been talking about this for

8:49

decades. Basically, with global warming,

8:52

the ice caps are melting. So there are

8:54

new sea lanes around Greenland that are

8:56

now available that are more efficient in

8:59

terms of shipment routes for all these

9:01

different countries and uh Russia builds

9:03

these icebreaking ships. The sealanes

9:05

are going to evolve in this new world.

9:06

The US doesn't want to lose their

9:08

advantage so they're trying to establish

9:10

ground in Greenland. Coincidentally,

9:12

Greenland also has a ton of rare earth

9:14

minerals. And in this new world where we

9:17

try to move away from fossil fuels and

9:19

we try to move towards EVs and more

9:20

green energies, a lot of them are

9:22

dependent on these rare earth minerals.

9:24

It's also important for satellite

9:25

coverage, right? So there's multiple

9:27

reasons why now it's so important. I

9:29

don't even think Trump cared about

9:30

geopolitics before he became president.

9:32

He told this stuff by his adviserss. For

9:35

those of you who think that Trump is

9:36

this lunatic who's just suddenly got

9:38

obsessed with trying to annex Canada and

9:40

and Greenland, it's because those have

9:43

become now important geopolitically in

9:46

this rivalry between the US and China

9:49

and Russia. That's the main thing that's

9:50

changed in the last decade or two with

9:52

China entering the WTO. They've had this

9:54

meteoric rise. They can now supplant the

9:57

United States. So everything we thought

9:59

was the peaceful world order, it was

10:02

always just predicated on the fact that

10:04

the US was the undisputed global

10:06

hedgeimon. So international law was

10:09

basically just US law. You know, it was

10:12

all a mirage the whole time. The idea

10:14

was just that if people didn't follow

10:16

international law, the US would come in

10:18

as the global police and make them

10:19

follow it. And now that we don't have

10:21

one undisputed global hegeimon and we're

10:24

entering this period of great power

10:26

rivalry, we're seeing that it was always

10:28

a mirage. It's just might makes right.

10:30

And so China takes the South China Sea

10:33

and Obama can't do anything about it. 20

10:35

years earlier, the US would just push

10:37

China out of there. 20 years earlier in

10:39

the 1990s when China was making threats

10:41

to invade Taiwan, Bill Clinton just

10:44

floated an aircraft carrier out there

10:45

and just went like that. And then the

10:48

Chinese are really big on saving face,

10:49

but they they just had to back off. The

10:51

difference in military might was so so

10:53

vast that there was nothing China could

10:55

do. Now Obama can't just do that. You

10:58

see China practicing these military

11:00

drills around Taiwan and the United

11:01

States just can't do that anymore. Why?

11:04

Because in the last 20 years, China has

11:06

built up their navy and their their

11:09

general defense to the point where

11:11

military strategists put a war in Taiwan

11:14

at about 50/50 as to who would win

11:16

between the US and China. And China

11:18

practices asymmetric warfare. So even if

11:21

their military technology isn't on par

11:24

with the US, they are focusing

11:26

asymmetrically on only technologies that

11:28

would help them win a war in their

11:30

backyard. So they have a ton of

11:32

short-range missiles that can reach all

11:34

the way to Guam, the first and second

11:35

island chain. It's reached the point

11:37

where the US can't police the South

11:39

China Sea as effectively anymore. And so

11:40

they're asking Japan and South Korea to

11:43

boost their defense spending to try to

11:45

kind of lock arms with the US to keep

11:47

China contained. So back to finance,

11:49

right? China is trying to overtake the

11:51

United States in technology. The person

11:53

who has the technological advantage is

11:55

going to win the wars of the future. You

11:57

see this most recently with the AI race

11:59

and you see China's neck to neck. So

12:00

with the release of deepseek you saw

12:02

that the entire US tech sector collapsed

12:05

and the Chinese Hangen tech index

12:08

rallied. So you see there's a zero sum

12:10

nature between people investing in the

12:13

US tech sector versus China's tech

12:14

sector. And you also should know that

12:17

the entire US economy is

12:18

disproportionately led by tech giants

12:21

like Apple, Microsoft. And so when the

12:24

US tech sector crashed, the entire US

12:26

stock market crashed, you're seeing that

12:28

this AI tech war is going to determine

12:30

in many ways whether money is going to

12:32

flow to the US or China. And yes, with

12:34

the release of Deepseek, you saw Chinese

12:36

stocks like Alibaba rally aggressively.

12:40

That's people switching teams and

12:42

saying, I don't think the US has this. I

12:45

think China might overtake them in the

12:46

AI race. And so you're seeing this tech

12:48

arms race play out live in the financial

12:50

markets. So that said, do I think that

12:52

you should hedge and put half of your

12:54

money in Chinese tech stocks? I would

12:56

say no because China is run differently.

12:59

It's an authoritarian country. So people

13:01

in China can tell you they view their

13:03

stock market more like a casino because

13:05

the state can intervene a lot more. In

13:08

the United States, there's more of a

13:09

checks and balances between different

13:11

points of power. But, you know, as you

13:12

saw with Jack Ma and Ant Financial, the

13:15

CCP can just step in and create new

13:17

regulations to stunt certain companies

13:19

if they want to. and they can

13:20

unilaterally, you know, just provide

13:22

subsidies to another company and make

13:24

them a state champion. They can do

13:26

things like just step in and dilute

13:28

shares and this sort of creates a lot of

13:30

corruption and uncertainty in the

13:32

Chinese stock market. Yes, while that

13:33

can lead to outperformance, it can also

13:35

lead to underperformance. But more to

13:37

the point, this relationship where the

13:41

stock market tends to track the health

13:44

of the economy and the GDP growth is a

13:46

little looser in in China as compared to

13:49

the United States. It's also why the

13:51

Chinese are so obsessed with real estate

13:54

because real estate is a is a hard

13:57

tangible asset. You own it, you live in

13:59

it. So the Chinese Communist Party can't

14:01

just dilute your shares of your real

14:04

estate. And that gives the Chinese

14:06

people more sense of security. So you

14:08

see that even with the Chinese diaspora

14:10

across the world in Toronto and

14:12

Vancouver, how they bought up all the

14:14

properties, a lot of economic policy is

14:17

upstream to culture. And it's also why

14:19

the Chinese are really big on gold

14:21

because they don't trust their stock

14:22

markets. And so that pretty much leaves

14:24

real estate and precious metals as

14:26

primary investment vehicles. So what

14:28

happens if China wins the Cold War and

14:31

they take over technology? They win the

14:33

tech arms race. Will China's Shanghai

14:36

composite go to the moon in the US S&P

14:38

500 crash? No. At least that's not what

14:40

I think would happen. I think it's about

14:42

50/50. Who would win in the cold war

14:45

between the US and China in this trap?

14:48

And I think that if China wins, China is

14:51

very practical. They're businessmen. So

14:53

I think that they would want to give the

14:55

US a soft landing because the US is a

14:57

big consumption market and they would

15:00

want the US to still be successful so

15:02

that they can continue to do business

15:03

with the US. So I think that the center

15:05

of economic power would move to China

15:08

and unequal treaties will now be signed

15:10

that favor China which is what the US

15:12

had been doing to Japan and other

15:14

countries while they were the global

15:15

hedgeimon. And so you would see a

15:17

certain amount of a brain drain from

15:19

Silicon Valley to Shenzen and things

15:21

like that. people would start learning

15:22

Mandarin Chinese and trying to work for

15:26

uh you know Alibaba and places like

15:28

this. But the US stock market, the S&P

15:30

500 would perhaps go from returning 10%

15:34

annually to 5% annually. And with the

15:37

UK, that's about how much they make on

15:38

their index, right? The Footsie, right?

15:40

The Footsie averages about 5% annually.

15:43

The US will no longer be the king of the

15:45

world, but your investments will still

15:47

have positive returns. You know, you can

15:48

sort of use the handoff of the baton

15:50

from the UK to the United States as a

15:54

precedent to understand how that might

15:56

happen. There was packed bratannica in

15:58

the past in the 1800s. And once the UK

16:01

got bombed out during World War II, they

16:03

owed so much money to the United States,

16:05

they couldn't maintain their empire

16:07

anymore. They handed the baton to the

16:09

United States. And then we got PAX

16:10

Americana. That's when the US stock

16:12

market really took off post World War II

16:14

and the UK sort of stagnated. And so I

16:16

think that that's a reasonable precedent

16:18

between what could happen between China

16:19

and the United States. Because aside

16:21

from all of this tough talk by world

16:23

leaders, the world is mostly run by

16:25

billionaires. The billionaire class or

16:27

as Chimath put it 150 or so of the most

16:30

powerful families. Those people are not

16:32

these jingoistic nationalistic people.

16:34

The these people are independent of

16:36

nation. They have pride not in their

16:38

nation. They have pride in their

16:39

families and their family crest or

16:41

whatever. And so these people all work

16:44

with each other and it's in their

16:46

interest to have these powerful

16:48

countries work together because that

16:50

makes more money for them and

16:52

subsequently for us normal folks too. So

16:55

in conclusion, where's the best place to

16:56

put your money in a rapidly changing

16:58

geopolitical world? I think the United

17:00

States continues to be the best place to

17:02

put your money. Yes, you could try to

17:04

cherrypick individual Chinese tech

17:06

stocks. That may work out for you, but

17:08

it may not too because investing in

17:10

stocks in China is seen more as gambling

17:12

because of the unpredictability of how

17:13

this how the state has control over

17:15

these individual companies. And if you

17:16

invest in the US, you're either going to

17:18

win the the cold war with China and

17:21

continue their dominance and average 8

17:23

to 10% annually or they'll lose, but

17:25

China will probably give them a soft

17:27

landing and they'll average about 5%

17:29

annually from there. And at that point,

17:30

you can decide whether you want to

17:32

diversify into certain Chinese tech

17:35

companies or other places. And as far as

17:38

diversifying internationally into other

17:41

countries, I generally don't like that

17:44

play. I generally try to just allocate

17:46

my money into the strongest countries in

17:48

the world. And the reason is because, as

17:50

I've said previously, it's all just

17:52

might makes right. It's dog eat dog. All

17:54

of these economic policies and treaties,

17:56

it's just noise. What's really happening

17:58

is the strong countries are just

18:00

bullying the weak countries and so the

18:03

money will always flow up to the strong

18:05

countries. That's how this works. Anyone

18:07

who's done business knows that people at

18:09

the top are ruthless and they got there

18:11

because they're ruthless and so they're

18:13

going to always push for self-interest.

18:15

You're either going to invest in the US

18:16

or China if you want the best

18:18

performance. And that's why the United

18:19

States stock markets, you know, like S&P

18:21

500 always outperforms international

18:24

funds. Yes, there are years where

18:26

international funds like last year 20

18:28

2025 international funds outperformed

18:30

the S&P 500 and that that can happen

18:32

here and there that that'll happen in

18:34

the one-off year but on average the S&P

18:37

500 is going to outperform the aggregate

18:39

international funds that represent other

18:41

countries for the reasons I outlined

18:42

because the United States is the most

18:44

powerful country most dominant country

18:46

in the world. They're going to brain

18:47

drain other countries. So the smartest

18:49

Indians in India are going to come to

18:52

the United States to to become the CEOs

18:54

of US tech companies and so on. We're

18:56

going to skim their top 01% and brain

18:59

drain them and have them work in the

19:01

United States. That's what you can do

19:02

when you're the most powerful country in

19:03

the world. So what about

19:04

diversification? People might say, "Oh,

19:06

well even if international exposure

19:08

lowers your overall performance, maybe

19:10

it'll diversify. So it'll like smooth

19:12

out the bumps to to improve your risk

19:14

risk adjusted returns." Sure, I can

19:16

understand that argument, but generally

19:18

speaking, even internationally, the

19:20

United States is so powerful and they

19:23

already have their tentacles all over

19:24

the world. So, you already have

19:27

international exposure when you own

19:29

Coca-Cola, when you own McDonald's. You

19:31

know, if you go to Thailand, you'll see

19:34

a strip mall with a Starbucks and a

19:36

McDonald's. And you think their local

19:38

coffee chain can compete with Starbucks

19:40

or their local hamburger chain can

19:42

compete with McDonald's? The strong eat

19:44

the weak. the amount of power and

19:46

experience that the United States has in

19:49

these businesses, they can out compete

19:50

local businesses easily. That's why

19:52

China had the requirement where US

19:55

companies can only be in China if

19:57

they're majority owned by local Chinese,

20:00

right? Cuz China understood that it's it

20:01

was wise of them, frankly. You know, in

20:03

the same way that that Facebook and Mark

20:05

Zuckerberg just gobbled up WhatsApp and

20:08

just gobbled up Instagram, if there's

20:10

ever a rising threat, the more powerful

20:12

company will just choke it out or

20:13

acquire it. And so, I'm generally not

20:16

worried about international

20:17

diversification. The US already gives

20:19

you international exposure. And so, I

20:21

continue to believe that simply being

20:23

invested in the S&P 500 over the next

20:25

few decades will continue to be where

20:27

you can get the best riskadjusted

20:28

returns even as the geopolitical

20:31

environment continues to evolve. Whether

20:33

China wins the Cold War or the US wins,

20:35

investing in the US still has the

20:37

highest expected value for the reasons I

20:39

outlined. If the US wins the Cold War

20:41

with China, having bet on the US the

20:43

whole time will have given you the best

20:44

returns. If China wins, the US will get

20:47

a soft landing. Their annual returns

20:49

will flatten a little bit, probably down

20:52

to 5% or so annually. And at that point,

20:55

it might make sense for you to

20:57

selectively buy a few of the state

21:00

champions of China like Huawei or

21:02

Alibaba or 10 cent. That's how I'm

21:04

playing this this whole geopolitical

21:06

game. All right. Well, if you want to go

21:08

over your own personal investment and

21:11

early retirement strategies, I have a

21:13

Calendarly one-on-one call link in bio

21:15

if you want to book a call with me. And

21:17

uh let me know if you disagree in the

21:18

comments. Take care.

Interactive Summary

A former quant trader discusses the deep connection between geopolitics and personal investment, challenging the narrative that the S&P 500's performance is guaranteed. He analyzes the historical suppression of Japan's economy and applies those lessons to the current US-China rivalry, exploring how US foreign policy aims to control resources like oil and rare earth minerals. Ultimately, he argues that the US remains the best investment destination due to its military might, ability to attract global talent, and the inherent risks and state intervention present in the Chinese stock market.

Suggested questions

5 ready-made prompts