Better Movements: Glassman Archive
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>> If we look at
shoulder press,
push press, and push jerk.
Whatever load you can shoulder press,
you'll get somewhere in the neighborhood
of 30% up more load up push press.
Whatever it is you can push press,
you'll get about another 30% maybe more
up push jerk.
We argue about those the numbers and
I've had some considerable variance on
where that lies, whether it's 20%, 50%,
different men, different women,
different trained, untrained.
But without a doubt, you'll get more
weight up
push pressing than shoulder pressing,
more weight up push jerking than push
pressing.
So, the loads force is definitely up.
There's a continuum here of shoulder
press to push press to push jerk
where the load is increased.
Load sits on this continuum.
Which is what? Force.
Um
if you look at the movements here in the
shoulder press, boom, the weight travels
but my body moves none.
In the in the push press, I dip lowering
my center of mass, no chest come forward
but dip.
I drive, I'm moving that mass, the body,
the load went down with me and came
back.
Then goes overhead. It's moving farther.
There's more distance, true?
You with me on that, right?
I've got distance on here, too.
In the jerk,
I go down, I come up, I go down again, I
come up. The load makes an extra trip as
do I.
Whatever your max shoulder press is
for any rep count, whether it's 1 3 5 10
rep max,
you'll move those same number of reps in
the push press in less time.
A failed shoulder press that last rep
well and I go in here on the push press,
boom,
at the same rep count.
Whatever your max load is at whether
it's a 1 3 or 5 or 10 rep max load on
push press,
for the same reps at that same load, the
push jerk will have a faster cycle time.
Bam, just quicker.
Cuz that max push PRESS WILL GO
THERE'LL BE SOME IT'LL BE SLOW.
SO, what I've got here is decreased
time on this continuum. Look Look at our
fraction again. Force, distance, time.
I've got the two pieces of the numerator
are going up. I've got the denominator
going down. What does that say for
average power?
It goes up.
In total here, what's happening is that
the intensity is higher.
The power is higher.
And what I would expect to find is that
there's this movement there'd be a
progression here of movements that would
have
greater impact on whatever favorable
adaptation I was looking for.
If I were looking to increase bone
density, I'm going to tell you that
there's more promise in the push jerk
than the push press than the shoulder
press.
If I was looking to elicit max heart
rate, I can assure you you'll get higher
heart rates at push jerk than you will
push press than you will at shoulder
press.
How about the coordination, accuracy,
agility, and balance, those neurological
components?
There's no without a doubt more
athleticism in here, more whole body
qualities.
Um I make a list, big long list of
attributes that sits on this continuum.
Athleticism, power, intensity,
uh uh
skill.
You develop a very compelling argument
that the moves are better.
Once you learn how to jerk, so it's and
that's how hard it is, once you learn
how to jerk, you will it only
insignificant loads push press. As soon
as that thing gets heavy at all and you
feel that stall, it's too easy to drop
and come back up. So, you'll find
yourself somewhere in the field.
Oh, and you won't even know why because
something in your brain felt the
lowering velocity and you dropped the
hip to lock it out.
And once you know how to push press, you
would never even a
even a little bag of kitty litter you're
going to put on a shelf, it just feels
entirely unnatural to lock out the
midsection and press. I mean,
just get it up there.
The argument for the advantages of the
push jerk over the push press of the
shoulder press, the utility of this
thing in developing athletes in
maximizing the rate of return on any
for for anyone regardless of their
stated goals,
the physics here, the physiology here is
perfectly analogous to the very last
detail in the value difference between
the kipping pull-up and the strict
pull-up.
Will you repeat that?
Yeah.
Yeah, all of the physiological and
physical advantages of the push jerk
over the push press of the over the
shoulder press is found again in looking
at the difference between the kipping
pull-up and the strict pull-up.
It's more athletic, it's more whole
body, I can get higher heart rate. We've
actually measured the two, strict
pull-ups and kip pull kipping pull-ups,
and at the higher rep ranges for greater
capacity, we almost it's almost a two to
one. So, if you've got 20 25 30 15
strict pull-ups, you'll do the same
number of kipping pull-ups in about half
the time.
Twice the power, twice the intensity.
Twice the benefit. Check this out.
When we alter the rules in a pull-up
competition, it doesn't alter the order
of of of of return.
So, the CrossFitters step into strict
pull-up competitions and win.
The gymnast default pull-up is the is
the kipping pull-up.
Only CrossFitters have more pull-ups
than than gymnasts now. It wasn't always
that way, but it's something new.
We've worked with have close ties to a
Olympic repeat medalist ring men.
And they don't have as many pull-ups as
our best guys.
Isn't that interesting?
We've kind of become the pull-up kings.
Jeff Martone, the kettlebell guru DOE uh
uh
operator, was at a did did the shot show
with his uh pull-up towers, tactical uh
pull-up structure. And he had a 90-lb
sandbag. And the whole weekend he was
there, there was nine people that could
do a pull-up with the 90 lbs. Nine of
them CrossFitters.
Now, yeah.
We do we do strict pull-ups. We do
weighted pull-ups.
We You can't clip You can't kip the L
pull-up.
The it it the inertia makes the legs too
heavy in the L virtually impossible. You
realize you you can kip one, but you
won't do the next one. You're like, "No,
that isn't going to help me." It's a
becomes apparent, makes your legs way
too heavy to kip.
We do kipping pull-ups, we do strict
pull-ups, we do L pull-ups, we do
weighted pull-ups, we rope climb. You
can't really kip there, not the same
kind of movement, but it's it's more of
a strict kind of movement.
But our default pull-up, the thing that
sits there kind of at the
at the
at the you know, peak of our of our
efforts is that it home base is that
kipping pull-up.
You want to get more strict pull-ups,
introduce the kipping pull-up and keep
practicing the strict.
But the advantage lies in the power
expression in the power output.
Now, I told you that we can
we can take a tape measure to you. And
I've got precision and accuracy. I got I
got good mil crowd here, law enforcement
crowd here. You know the difference
between precision and accuracy. Um
accuracy is by proximity to the to the
target and and the precision is the
clustering of these of these efforts. We
have greater We have great precision and
accuracy in assessing, in measuring um
the work output.
It's a Well, how do we know this? Well,
I'll measure someone's first center of
mass and travel, take five measures,
leave the room, have someone else do it,
and we look at it and we're like, "Man,
we're we're hovering around the same
mark."
The round off error, the the variance is
less than the round off error.
How accurate is your scale?
Pretty damn accurate.
Great precision as well.
How about the watch?
Pretty damn good nowadays.
So, we distill these numbers down, we
get this power output, we can certainly
very easily measure the differential in
terms of time output.
And what we end up with
is a data point
for each workout
that suggests work capacity.
And this kind of starts to look like
this. I can put time on this axis and
power here.
And what I can do is get a bunch of data
points of different modalities,
different efforts, say for 10 for a
5-second effort. That might be two pulls
on the Concept 2 rower. I can get the
power from that. It might be how big a
weight you can clean and jerk.
It might be what you max thruster. And I
can play this game across multiple
training modalities.
Use 10 different things at 5 minutes, 10
10 things at 3 minutes, 10 different
things at 5 seconds, 10 different things
at an hour,
and get this data here, get these
pieces, and find some average, and plot
a curve for your power output.
And what we know, what we can say now,
is that this area under the curve
well defines your physical capacity.
In fact, what we've come to see is that
what we're doing here, what we're
developing, is increasing work capacity,
and that's what this is.
If this height, this Y axis represents
power, and this time, the area under
here is work.
For those of you with math background,
we're integrating the power curve, it's
work.
And what we know is that what CrossFit
is doing is increasing work capacity.
Now, lock on here, this is really good.
For those of you taking notes, you want
to write this down. We're increasing
work capacity across broad time and
modal domains. It's a mouthful, but let
me break it down. We're increasing the
ability to perform work across a
multitude, multiple modalities. Row,
jump, throw, swim, run,
punch,
and across broad time domains, from the
short end to the to the to the long end.
Modal domains, by by varying
protocols, hopefully what? Functional
movement.
Thruster, clean, pull-up, rope climb,
Fran, Helen,
wrestle,
throw, it's all good.
I can measure the work.
Now, we might compare this I just give
you a for instance. I would expect
Suppose this were the work capacity of a
Greg Amundson.
I would expect a power lifter to have a
much bigger number here, and then fall
apart.
Kirk, we have Casey's Helen and Fran
times.
We know what those are.
We get these guys out past the 15, 20
seconds, and it's not pretty.
Now, here's what we would see in a
triathlete. It would start much lower,
and your hope is that it wouldn't decay
as much and sit high, but it's only
going to sit high if I test them bike,
run, swim long.
If I really expose them to mixed modal
training, if I get them out of that,
what you find is that their decay is
really not that unlike that of the power
lifter.
We have seen world ranked
uh uh triathletes
gas under a stimulus like Fight Gone Bad
or Helen or Fran.
It's interesting cuz they're they're
they're loath to to face the fact that
they've gassed.
And but uh understand, the guy's using
the bar to hold himself up.
He's got this super high ventilatory
rate. Ah, ah, ah. Lips are blue or gray,
eyes bugged out, and can't answer
questions or communicate.
Dude, you're gassed.
What they'll often tell me is, "No, I
haven't gassed." This is once they
recover and can talk again, even though
they're at max heart rate.
"The problem is the weight's too heavy."
And I go, "Well, ace, we got a solution
for that. Here, I've got a lighter bar.
Keep moving."
You get about five more reps, and look,
let's suppose it's you know,
push jerk or or
thruster. That last weight, boom, goes
to overhead, and they flag pull the bar,
and they're breathing hard. Is that
muscular failure? Last rep, pow, to
extension.
No, it it should be like, "Ah!"
We know what muscular failure looks
like. You'd never confuse Muscular
failure is
it's too heavy, and you're normal.
Gassing is when you can't talk to me,
you're breathing so hard.
I tell these guys, "You look, you're
What would you think if I went running
with you, and after a few laps on the
track, I said, 'Hey, I got to stop. I'm
clearly Look, you can see I'm out of
breath, and I'm You got that panicked,
cyanotic kind of look.' And I tell you,
'I'm not gassed, it's just the track's
too long.'"
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>> It's no you've gassed. It's
obvious. It's obvious.
VO2 max is that gold standard for
aerobic capacity. It is unfortunately
highly modal specific. Highly modal
specific.
Everyone's VO2 max is modal specific.
Ours is specific to constantly varied
functional movements.
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The video discusses the continuum of shoulder press, push press, and push jerk, highlighting how the load and complexity increase with each movement. It explains that the push jerk allows for the heaviest loads and fastest cycle times due to increased body movement and extra 'trips' of the load. The video also draws an analogy between these overhead lifts and the difference between kipping and strict pull-ups, arguing that the more dynamic movements (push jerk, kipping pull-up) lead to higher power output, greater athleticism, and potentially more significant physiological adaptations. The concept of 'work capacity' is introduced, defined as the ability to perform work across broad time and modal domains, and how CrossFit training aims to increase this capacity by varying functional movements and training durations. Finally, the video differentiates between muscular failure and 'gassing' (extreme fatigue), emphasizing that gassing is a failure of the cardiovascular system to keep up with the demands of the exercise.
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