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>> Do you got to get [music] new glasses?

>> No, I just have different pair for

different stuff.

>> Did they get stronger?

>> No.

>> No,

>> I just have a

>> Did you always have glasses? Like do you

have a eyeball issue?

>> Yeah, I got a stigmatism.

>> Okay. But I uh but I got one one for

driving and one for my computer.

>> I used to have to use um reading

glasses.

>> Oh yeah.

>> Then I started using red light red light

therapy. And uh I think that uh f the

first thing I started doing is taking uh

this company pure encapsulation has this

um it's called uh macular support. It's

like a combination of nutrients that

help your eyeballs.

>> I don't know how but I explained it to

Huberman. He read it off to me and he's

like, "This makes sense." Um, but then,

um, the big one was red light. I started

using red light therapy. I don't need

glasses anymore.

>> What?

>> Yeah. My glass My eyes aren't perfect.

Like, uh, in low light, they're not so

good. Like, uh, in a dark restaurant, I

have to use like the flashlight on my

thing to read a menu, but I don't need

glasses anymore.

>> Oh. So, I was I've been wondering that.

Is it that I'm getting older or are they

just using darker light in the

restaurants?

>> They definitely use dark light in

restaurants. I don't I mean, young

people can still read it. Like I've gone

to restaurants with my kids and they can

read in the dark. I'm like, "You can

read that? I can't read it." But um but

like small print like on my phone like

reading an email. I didn't used to be

able to read it and now I can read it

perfectly.

>> Oh, see now I'm I'm hitting that age now

where I got to start switching

>> switching glasses.

>> A different Yeah.

>> Here we go. Here we go.

>> Listen, dude. I'm just happy you're

alive.

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you

know, you know, man, I've

>> People don't know what we're talking

about. You had a heart attack.

>> Yes. I had a heart attack three months

ago.

>> Yeah.

>> Super Bowl weekend.

>> Yeah.

>> In Atlanta.

>> Yeah. Out of nowhere. Well, was it

really out of nowhere? Not really.

[laughter]

[laughter]

You know, like cuz that's

>> not like you were a marathon runner.

>> Right. Right. [laughter] Exactly. But I

but I was sitting there, you know,

honestly, I was sitting there thinking

because I remember the doctor cuz we,

you know, we we really are

like we've set ourselves up. We we kind

of deal with trauma and a not I mean you

can argue about whether how it's whether

it's healthy or not, but with but our

first go-to is humor,

>> right?

>> And I remember the doctor getting upset

with me like this the the surgeon the

lady that was about to she was about to

put a stent. So, you know, I'm sitting

there and she was like, "Hey,

>> something very serious just happened to

you, you know, because I was just

talking, you know, I was but it was just

how I was just coping, you know, she was

not

>> happy about it."

>> Did you tell her that's how I deal with

things?

>> No, I was already all drugged up and

[ __ ] you know?

>> But it [laughter] was cuz it was one of

them things where I think like you can't

they [snorts] can't put you out

>> completely. like it's it's not that kind

of anesthesia. Okay.

>> But they but I think they need you to be

conscious kind of in case something goes

wrong.

>> But they but whatever the [ __ ] they put

me on, I don't remember any of it.

>> And you were joking around and she was

upset.

>> Yeah. What what happened was the the

when I got to the hospital, the doctor

that first saw me was like I forget his

name, but he was like, "Hey, I'm Doug

and don't don't worry about anything.

I'mma be with you the whole time." You

know, and then maybe 20 minutes later,

you know, they they wheeling me in. and

they drugging me up and I'm like, "Hey,

where the [ __ ] is Doug, [laughter]

you know, and they're like, "Who's

Doug?" I was like, "He's he promised me

that he wasn't going to leave." And I

was obviously I was just joking. I know

like he was just saying that so I would

calm down or

>> right.

>> I don't know why Doug thought he would

be bringing me comfort,

>> but I just but I I I I fake made a big

deal of the fact that I felt abandoned

by Doug and she didn't think it was

funny.

>> Oh.

>> But somebody did, and that's all I

needed was the laugh. I'm like, "It's

you, [ __ ] It's not me. You're the

problem. You're too serious in here."

>> Well, why would she need you to be

serious if you're getting a stent put

in? Would that make it work better?

>> I mean, to be fair, I think my whole

life people have said as serious as a

heart attack. And I feel like if if you

dedicated your life to that, you

probably a serious person. [laughter] I

I don't know any other heart surgeons,

but I bet they all pretty uptight.

>> Yeah, they have to be. It's life or

death with every decision that they

make, right?

>> I guess

>> they got to get it in on time, right?

like if they're going to put a stent in

you, if they're going to do something

like if you're one of those people like

you are that if you didn't address this,

you would have died,

>> right?

>> So that's one of those things that's

time critical. So I guess with those

people like, "Hey, stop [ __ ] around."

Like in their mind, like I got to save

you. I got to figure out what has to be

done within a certain amount of time and

get you on the road to recovery because

if I don't, you're dead.

>> Yeah. You know what? She something else

I remember and this was just flash cuz I

only remember like these couple seconds

is she kept yelling at me because I kept

moving my hands. So basically like I'm

laid down like this and and they want

you to keep they want you to keep your

hands right by your side.

>> And I just remember I kept coming to

with her being like, "Hey, keep your

hands she might have said keep your

[ __ ] hands down." I don't know

though. I don't know. I [laughter] ain't

going to make no accusations. But but

she was clearly upset about it. She was

rece and but but I'm like [ __ ] I'm on

I'm on with the drugs you gave me. I'm

not doing it on purpose.

>> Apparently my my default response cuz

cuz they cuz they they put they have to

put a st in but they go through your

groin.

>> Yikes.

>> So So you know so apparently like my

default response is to protect my dick,

>> right?

>> Like I'm waking up. Somebody's [ __ ]

around down there. Oh, [laughter]

>> you know it's like why don't y'all tie

me down if it's that important? Why

don't you tie my hands down?

>> Right.

>> But maybe they can't. I don't know. I

don't know what's what else is going on.

And medical people are real sensitive

about criticism.

You know, some of them real like we save

lives. How dare you? And it's like, all

right, I'm still Yeah. Some of y'all are

still [ __ ] though.

>> Well, they're they don't have the best

sense of humor. They can't like that's

not the way you if you want to be a

really good doctor, you can't be also a

standup comedian.

>> Well, see, no. See, the nurses have a

sense of humor.

>> Right. Right.

>> Nurses are fun.

>> They might as well be different species.

>> Yeah. Nurses are fun. Like nurses come

in, they joke around with you, they [ __ ]

around. Like some of them do at least.

>> Yeah. And and some of them kill you.

>> Let's be honest. And in Atlanta, the

nurses were incredibly attract like

really there was hot nurses everywhere.

>> Damn.

>> Like nurses. And it's something about

like vette techs like working at the one

the ladies working at the vet hospitals.

>> Yeah.

>> It's something about going into that

field. I don't know what it is.

>> Vette, you mean veterinarians?

>> Yeah. Like veterinarians. Yeah. But not

the not the doctors,

>> right?

>> Just the nurses.

>> Just the nurses. Well, they're people

who love animals. Sweet people.

>> Oh, yeah. And money. They love animals

and money. I Nobody

>> Well, the nurses don't usually love

money. If they did, they wouldn't get

into that profession. But the

veterinarian hospital certainly loves

money. The administration.

>> Speaking of which, I can't I can't

decide which pisses me off more is

like when I get the bill at the at the

human hospital or when or because at the

vet hospital, I feel like they

I feel like they're like they're

extorting me,

>> you know? Like when I got the bill from

this hospital, I was like, "God damn."

But I was in there and they were cuz

they didn't walk up to me while like

before the surgery and go, "What's it

going to be?"

>> Right?

>> But when but when it's your pet, that's

what they do. They go, "We could do this

life-saving thing, which is the best

thing to do, but it's way more money

than you have."

>> Or, you know, you can be a piece of [ __ ]

pet owner and get the $20 thing.

Yeah.

>> Yeah. They they're trying to get you to

take out a loan, all that. Just really

turn the screws.

>> That's awful.

>> Yeah. I don't know when the last time

you had to do some serious [ __ ] for your

pet.

>> Pretty recently. Marshall swallowed a

bunch of rocks.

>> Oh, god damn.

>> Yeah. He um we Someone spilled chicken

food on the gravel and he ate all the

chicken food and just kept eating and

started eating gravel.

>> Oh my god.

>> He's [ __ ] He's the sweetest boy.

[laughter] He's the sweetest sweetest

dog that's ever walked to face the

earth, but he is not clever. And and so

um we bring him inside. No one knows no

one knows anything that happened. And

then he starts throwing up and he's

throwing up rocks like little pebbles.

And then he starts getting diarrhea and

he's diarrhea and pebbles. I'm like, "Oh

no." And then we put two and two

together. We figured out what happened.

And so then I had to take him to the

vet. So I took him to the vet and he had

to stay there overnight. And luckily

they didn't have to do surgery. um they

pumped it out of it. They somehow or

another got the rocks out of his stomach

and they had to keep scanning it to make

sure there's no rocks remaining in

there. And so he passed all the rocks.

He either threw them up or [ __ ] him out.

And then within [clears throat] a

certain amount of time, I think he was

there for he was there for at least 24

hours, but after a certain amount of

time, he started eating and then they

weren't worried about him anymore.

>> That dog [ __ ] eats. He just all he

wants to do is eat. He gets so excited.

>> Yeah.

>> All he wants to do is his favorite thing

is

>> I want every morsel of flavor out this

dirt.

>> It's so crazy. He kept eating rocks. I

mean, he ate pounds of gravel. It wasn't

like a small amount of gravel. It was

the amount of gravel that was in my

living room on the carpet was crazy.

>> Oh, wow.

>> The out of throw up and just diarrhea.

It was everywhere. It was It was a crime

scene.

>> I bet you he won't do that [ __ ] again.

>> Oh, yeah. He will.

>> He will.

>> He'll do it tomorrow. [laughter] Dude,

Doug doesn't learn [ __ ] He's the best.

Like, he's a sweet dog. I love him so

much. I love him so much. He's just all

love. Every time I see him, he just

wagging his tail. I get down on the

ground with him. He kisses me. I hug

him. I rub his belly. He's the best. But

he is not. That used to be a wolf.

That's what's so [ __ ] up about human

beings. We took something that's the

most clever most. They they communicate

with each other. They plan traps on

animals. They're so clever. You can't

And also, you can't train them. You know

that about wolves? You can't train them.

That's why you don't see wolves in the

[ __ ] circus. You cannot train. You

could train a bear. You could train a

lion. You could train a tiger. Wolves

just go, "Fuck you. I'm going to do

exactly what I want to do." But not

dogs. Certainly not my dog. Like

Marshall, he's the sweetest. Like he was

so easy to train.

>> See, that's wild. Cuz you can train a

lion, but you can't train a a house cat.

>> Train a Well, you could train house cats

to do certain things. Like some people

have trained their house cat to [ __ ] in

the the toilet.

>> No, Joe. There's a there's a video of

like I I wonder if she she's Russian.

This Russian lady. She's like the world

champion

cat training lady [laughter]

and and she and she's getting these cats

to do a whole bunch of [ __ ] but every

now and then

>> they do what they want.

>> They just do what the [ __ ] they want.

>> Yeah, that's true. You can't get them to

do it like

>> like a really good dog will like a

Belgian malam that's absolutely

>> just does every task you ask them to.

That's impossible.

>> Absolutely not.

>> But with wolves, you can't train them to

do anything. They won't listen. I didn't

know that

>> they don't listen to you at all. I had a

friend who had wolves. He had like 7/8

timber wolves and they got out and

killed a bunch of his neighbors sheep.

They like you couldn't stop them from

doing anything they wanted to do.

Whatever they wanted to do.

>> Why do you have a pack of wolves?

>> He's an idiot. He had three of them. I

was like, you don't have these dogs. You

just feed them. You don't This is not

like a dog.

>> No,

>> they don't listen to you. And you have a

a house with a yard. Like that's crazy.

Like you you should have like an

enormous piece of land and even then if

you have wolves they're going to kill

everything they run across.

>> Yeah. They need miles of

>> of space.

>> Yeah. They're they're cardio machines.

They run through the mountains. They

chase down moose.

>> That's why I get so irritated when cuz

I'm in a I'm in apartments now and I'm

in one of those I don't know what the

[ __ ] is going on with my building but

but the it's full of dog. Like the

building is for dog people. There's

there's a dog wash.

>> The all of the grass around it is all

fake and there's there's [ __ ] [ __ ]

bags every 10 feet and the front of the

building from like noon to 400 p.m. it

always just the strongest scent of dog

piss because 50 people have walked their

dogs around. And I and that's fine. I

don't I don't mind that at all. But what

irritates me is when I see cuz I know I

have the biggest apartment in the

building and I know that I don't have

room for like I I don't have the room

for like a uh like a blue like a blue

healer or right

>> and it's like you see [ __ ] with

dogs like that was like yo you that dog

needs to be running miles every day. Why

do you got that big ass dog? Oh yeah.

Well, I see I saw a damn I saw uh uh a

Cane Corso.

>> Mhm. That's crazy.

>> It's like you got a Cane Corso in a in a

in a 1300 uh square foot apartment.

That's crazy.

>> That's crazy.

>> And I don't And and here's the other

thing. I don't see that [ __ ]

every day. So you you skipping days.

This [ __ ] needs to hurt things

or or

>> he needs to have exercise. That's like

having an MMA fighter living in your

house. Like you better take him to the

[ __ ] gym.

>> Oh yeah, cuz people always blow off

steam.

>> When people find out that I have a cat,

they always like, "Oh, so your apartment

smells like a cat." No. No. But but you

know, you know, you know whose places

always smell bad is people that have a

dog that's too [ __ ] big to be in the

place.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. There's

>> also they probably can't wash it, right?

Like what are you going to do? Do you

get in the shower with it? I used to get

in the shower with my dogs. I bring

Marshall to a groomer, but um my my dog

Johnny, he used to love getting in the

shower with me.

>> Really? Yeah, he was a big mastiff and

he loved it because it was just massages

and love in the shower. I just cover him

with shampoo and I would talk nice to

him. I go, "Oh, we're getting so clean,

buddy." He give me kisses. I'm like,

"Look at you. We're good." So,

>> something about seeing their human with

no clothes. They're I think they lock

cuz my my cat does it. She loves to come

in the bathroom whenever she knows I'm

naked or she has a shower running, she

just sit there and watch.

>> It's probably weird to them that you

could take your clothes off.

>> Yeah. I mean, no. I think it's weird to

them that you wear clothes at all. Oh,

for sure.

>> They're like, "What?"

>> Yeah. What are you doing? Why you under

the sheets all the time?

>> Yeah. [laughter]

And I I don't I've softened my stance on

people that put clothes on their

animals, but I'm like, "They don't like

it."

>> No. Well, some dogs like um Chihuahua in

the winter, it's a good idea.

>> Yeah. But what I mean,

>> it's like 30° out.

>> The dog The dog likes it. No, the dog

likes that you like it.

>> They like pleasing you, but they don't

want clothes on.

>> They don't. But if you have like a

little dog like like a Chihuahua for

instance, they get really cold.

>> Those guys, if you put a little sweater

on them, like they feel better outside.

It's just makes sense. It's warm.

>> But but okay, then go all the way then.

Where the boots at? [laughter]

>> Some of them wear boots in the summer

because like New York City, like the

street gets so hot.

>> Like if you think about how hot the

street gets if it's 98 degrees outside.

>> It was like broken glass.

>> Oh my god. Yeah. I mean, you're just

walking on hot rocks,

>> right? But also, what are you doing with

that big ass dog in New York City?

>> That's true.

>> There are no apartments. We Why you got

a great Dane out here in New York?

>> I mean, I would have to make a choice.

Like, if for some reason I had to move

to New York City, I'm not getting rid of

my dog. And I'm not leaving my dog here.

>> You can't get rid of your dog.

>> There's no chance. Not a chance in hell.

So, I would just have to commit to a

lifestyle of taking that dog out to like

Central Park every day, doing things

with them every day. I would have to

make a choice, bro. I would have to live

near the park for sure.

>> Like for me to get for me to get rid of

my cat something. It would have to be

like

>> they would have to die.

>> They'd have to die or or it would have

to be something where like I I am

absolutely not capable of, you know,

like I'm I'm I can't move, you know, or

something crazy like that.

>> Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

>> Yeah. When I try to when I moved out

here from Cali,

>> uh like she she can't fly.

>> Oh, so did you drive her across the

country?

>> I paid somebody to.

>> Oh, there you go.

>> Oh, me that would that would be a [ __ ]

Actually, I didn't have a car at the

time, but that would be a nightmare.

>> She This is the most stubborn. Like,

this creature

>> like I I I have a hard time getting her.

I've taken her to three groomers. They

all been like, "You got to come get her.

>> You got to come get cuz she don't she

doesn't like to be with restrained in

any way."

>> Mhm.

>> Yeah. And at the slightest sign that

you're thinking about holding her down

or putting her in something, she will

fight with everything she got.

>> Is she a feral cat?

>> No. Well, she might have been. She might

have been.

>> I got her. The the story the lady told

me. It doesn't really add up, but

basically she was

a divorce happened.

>> This family had two cats and a dog. And

then the wife got the house and started

fostering animals. And then my cat's

brother who So her and her brother were

the original cats. My cat's brother

started

basically like joined this pack of cats

against against because Millie don't

socialize at all. But her brother kind

of turned on her

>> Game of Thrones.

>> Yeah. And so since then she was just

hostile with everybody.

>> All the animals, I mean. And so when I

came to get her, all these animals were

in this lady's house except Millie. She

was in the garage and they had a little

post and she was in the garage. And when

I came to take her, she was so down to

go. She was like, "Fuck all them people.

[ __ ] my brother. [laughter] [ __ ] this.

She was so

>> But she likes you.

>> Oh, yeah. She loves me. She still to

this she follows me from room to room.

>> Oh, well, that's sweet.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But she

>> cats that just choose one person, too.

>> She also hates me, too. So,

>> she hates you.

>> I think she hates

>> She probably [clears throat] had bad

experiences.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's just She's got

some kind of trauma that I'll never know

about.

>> You got to give her some kitty cat

Iawasa.

>> Bro, I've I've had to I've had to put

her on on CBD and [ __ ] before we go to

the vet.

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>> Oh, yeah. Sometimes. Yeah.

>> Does she get high and roll around and

get freaky?

>> She loves it.

>> What is it? So weird. What does cat It

works on every cat. I've never seen a

cat where it doesn't work on.

>> Imagine I mean there's [ __ ] like that

for people.

>> Oh yeah. Yeah.

>> You just give someone

>> We got plenty of [ __ ] like that.

>> But I don't know if it gets them high. I

don't know what it's doing to them

>> to them.

>> Well, let's find out. I I really have no

idea what the mechanism of

>> um let's put this into perplexity.

>> All right, Jeremy, you already

perplexity.

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>> Yes, we have an AI sponsor.

>> Oh [ __ ] Okay.

>> It's the [ __ ]

>> Uh it's not ideologically captured.

Catnip is an aromatic herb in the mint

family whose leaves and stems contain a

chemical. How do you say that word? Nep

nepatala.

>> You want to try that, Jamie? I'm going

to say nep nebatilacone.

>> Nepat. I think you're right. Nepatactone

that triggers playful or euphoric

behavior in many cats. Many cats.

Interesting. I thought it was all cats.

Uh plant is native to Eurasia now common

across temperate regions and is easy to

grow in North America often in gardens

or pots. Why cats react to it? Catnip

contains an oil whose main active

compound is nepatilactone,

a type of tarpine produced in glands on

the leaves and stems. When the cats

smell nepatilactone, it binds to

receptors in their nose and stimulates

brain pathways linked to mood.

>> Wow.

>> Leading to behaviors like rolling,

rubbing, purring, meowing, jumping, or

brief zooies. Only about twothirds Oh,

okay. 80% of cats are sensitive to

catnip. The tendency is genetic. The

effect usually lasts 5 to 15 minutes,

after which they become temporarily

immune for a while. Interesting.

>> Is it safe? For most cats, catnip is

considered non-toxic and safe, and many

vets recommend it as enrichment to

encourage play and reduce boredom or

stress. Eating a small amount is usually

fine and may soothe the digestive tract,

but large amounts can cause short-lived

stomach upset, vomiting, diarrhea, or

dizziness. [clears throat] You can't

just [ __ ] a fiend. Oh [ __ ] You only

supposed to give a pinch?

>> I don't know.

>> That's what it say down there.

>> Only a pinch. Oh, here it goes. Because

of this, people typically offer just a

pinch of dried or fresh. How much do you

give your cat,

>> bro? [laughter]

I don't [ __ ] her world.

>> Oh my [laughter] god. You giving her a

fat bag.

>> You give her a fat bag.

>> I just let her go at it, man. You know

what's funny, man? My cat is very like I

let her do what she wants,

>> you know? Like I let her she she get she

can go outside like you know she's not

she's not an outdoor cat but if she want

to go out I open the door I [snorts] cuz

I make you know what it is I make sure

outside is not some some mystery place

that she when she if she want to go I I

open the door and let her go and then

after she get cold or hear something and

smell and run back in the house because

that way she's not like just dying to go

out there all the time.

>> Right. Right. Right.

>> I'm not worried about her running away.

>> I worry about coyotes man.

>> When you let cats out man coyotes are

[ __ ] they target your house. They

know where the cats are. They know the

cats that get let out.

>> Yeah, but but it's like it nothing comes

near my building because it just smells

like just all It smells like 50 dogs

live there.

>> Yeah, but they eat dogs, too.

>> Really?

>> Mhm.

>> Yeah. My daughter's puppy got eaten by a

coyote in California. Guy was training

and he left the the puppy outside. It

got eaten by coyotes.

>> Brian, you know coyotes?

>> Oh, I've seen them.

>> Oh, also, but here's the other thing,

too. My my my my girl is, you know, she

she takes zero chances. The slightest

sign of danger and she she already got

>> No, she got 50 spots to hide and run

like she's never gotten into it with

anything.

>> The thing about coyotes is they haven't

they're predators, right? And cats

>> are predators, too. But pets are

different than wild animals.

>> Yeah. This [ __ ] ain't very different.

>> She'll bring a [ __ ] mouse in the

house.

>> Yeah. I mean, they kill stuff. They they

they kill stuff for fun, but there's a

difference between that and needing to

eat and needing to like eat cats in

order to survive, which is what coyotes

do. So coyotes know where the cats are.

They know what the smell when cats are

peeing outside. So they know a cat lives

in the house and they know the cat pees

outside. They just hover nearby and wait

because they know it's a matter of time

before the cat has to go outside.

>> You know what's funny, man? I haven't

seen a coyote the whole time I lived in

Austin. I think they'll hide three years

now.

>> They hide.

>> I know. I saw them all the time in LA,

though.

>> You'll see them. They exist.

>> I You know what it is? I think it's that

the ones out here aren't starving like

the ones in LA were, right?

>> So, they cuz they get bolder and bolder

if they the hungrier they get.

>> Well, the thing about Austin as opposed

to LA is there's a lot of animals and

there's a lot of moisture, right? So, if

you're outside of greater Austin area,

like a lot of these coyote, I see them

all the time out where I live because

there's a lot of animals where I live. I

see like foxes almost every day. I see

armadillos a couple times a week. I see

deer every day. I always see these,

especially when I come home, I see foxes

run across the road. There's all kinds

of animals. So, there's all kinds of

things that coyotes eat. A lot of

rabbits, all kinds of things coyotes

eat. And so, they don't have to come

into the city. Whereas in LA, you've got

LA and then everything around LA is just

barren.

>> You know, it's all dry and [ __ ] up and

you might find a rabbit,

>> but it's way easier to eat someone's

cat. So, and I think I think the average

person doesn't realize how how many

coyotes are around them. Like they're

Oh, yeah. Every major city, they're like

they're like raccoons. They're in every

city everywhere.

>> There's a great book on it called Coyote

America.

>> Oh,

>> yeah. It's really good. And um it's uh

all about how coyotes what happens is um

when they yell out, they're doing like a

roll call. And when they're doing a roll

call, they're letting all the other

coyotes know that they're there. And

when one of them's missing, the female

coyotes assume that that coyote is dead.

And so their body responds by making a

larger litter.

>> What? So they'll have more babies if

someone's missing.

>> Damn. Death makes them horny.

>> Well, it makes them have more children.

They always have children. They're

always horny, right? But they instead of

having three pups, they'll have six.

And they spread out because they were

persecuted by gray wolves. Like that's

the whole deal. and being gray wolves

and red. So coyotes and red wolves mate

with each other. That's why you get what

they call a koi wolf, but it really is a

coyote is a wolf. It's a type of wolf,

but they're not related to the

greywolves. And greywolves and coyotes

don't mate. So greywolves, the ones that

have in like Colorado and, you know,

like uh Montana, those wolves just eat

coyotes. They just kill them. Like they

don't [ __ ] around. They so there's no

chance of becoming allies. So those

coyotes learned a long time ago when

they start getting killed by wolves,

just spread out. Just get the [ __ ] out

of there. Keep moving. That's why

they're in 50 states. They're in every

city in the country now. And that wasn't

the case when I was a kid. When I was a

kid, like I grew up in Massachusetts in

my high school years, there was no

[ __ ] coyotes. Nobody. I I never even

heard of anybody seeing a coyote.

>> Yeah, me neither. I never saw a coyote

in my life until 1994 in uh I I do you

remember in LA they had those Oakwood

garden apartments.

>> It's like furnished apartments that they

had in LA and uh I was driving to it.

It's like when I first moved there. I

didn't have an apartment yet. When I

first moved there I was like are those

[ __ ] dogs? What are these dogs? I'm

like oh [ __ ] those are coyotes. I

remember pulling the car over looking at

them like this is weird. These weird

little wolves just wandering around the

city.

>> Like that's how you know you seeing a

coyote. You like, "Is that a dog?"

>> Well, that was the first time and that

was in '94. But by the time, you know,

we left in 2020. [ __ ] they were

everywhere. I mean, everywhere. Like,

they expanded.

>> Yeah.

>> And now they're in New York City. They

find them in in the middle of the

[ __ ] park. They They find them in the

Bronx. They're in abandoned buildings.

They're all over the place. They're in

Chicago. Coyotes are all over the whole

country. When I uh when I was in LA, one

of the neighborhoods I lived in that was

like I was in the neighborhood Facebook

group and there was a dude in there, his

name was Coyote. The guy's name was

Coyote that he just wanted everybody to

know that he loved coyotes so much. And

he would literally he would defend

coyotes no matter what the [ __ ] they

did. Like somebody would be in the

Facebook group, hey, a coyote [ __ ]

ate my dog right out of my hands. Watch

out. And this guy would be like, if

anybody here harms that coyote, they

have to answer to me. [ __ ] your dog.

>> Oh god.

>> Oh yeah. Yeah, I think his name was like

his name was like Coyote Jones or

something like that. He He was serious.

>> He was real serious.

>> Really into coyotes.

>> He was, you know, I thought everybody

everybody got their thing.

>> Well, they're an interesting animal,

man. That's it's really interesting in

that that book. It was It's all about

>> You know who's um I just saw something

about how raccoons are the next animal

that that's being uh you know, tamed or

domesticated or whatever. Oh, I believe

that

>> the ones the ones in the city are

starting to have like shorter snouts and

>> Oh, whoa.

>> Yeah, they're starting to

>> look more like how wolves became [ __ ]

ass wolves when they came around the

fire.

>> They're basically they're starting to

get cuter like dogs. The ones closer to

us are getting cuter because they know

it it gets them treated better.

>> Wow.

>> The cuter the cuter ones have more more

babies. The same thing.

>> I know. Oh, and that's crazy cuz I read

somewhere that we haven't actually

domesticated cats or or not. That makes

sense. Maybe domesticated isn't the

word, but

>> never got them to the point where we did

with dogs.

>> Exactly. But but raccoons are getting

there.

>> That's so interesting because But it

makes sense. Like, did you ever heard

about that Russian study they did with

foxes? Like how quickly you can

domesticate a fox?

>> Oh, no. I didn't know that you could do

that.

>> Oh, it's really quick. So you start out

with foxes and any fox that shows any

aggress you start with a bunch of foxes.

Any fox that shows any aggression to a

person, you kill it on the spot. Oh,

bang, dead. [ __ ] you. Get all the ones

that survive or ones that have no

aggression towards people. And then

slowly their snouts get shorter and

their ears start to flop. And over the

course of like 10 years, you got a

totally different animal. See if you can

find that, J.

>> Why don't people do that? I don't

>> Well, they did do that with this one

study, but it was just to show how quick

things change like given natural

selection. Like natural selection

dictated that if you're a sweeter fox,

you live. If you show your teeth, they

[ __ ] shoot you in the head, you know?

And I'm sure Russian scientists are

probably a little bit more hardcore.

[laughter]

>> Oh, Chinese.

>> Here it is. Dimmitri Belov in Ludilia

Truth. The Russian fox domestication

program is a long-term experiment in

Novo Cibers, Siberia that successfully

bred domesticated silver foxes, a form

of red fox, selecting specific

specifically for tameness. After over 60

years and dozens of generations, fox act

like domesticated elite pets, displaying

doglike behavior such as tail wagging,

licking, and whining for attention. So,

you could buy them. Can you buy one of

these foxes? That's crazy. See if

there's a video. Oh, you get one for

9,000 bucks.

>> What?

>> Let's Oh, known for high energy and

needing intensive care. Yeah, you don't

want that in your [ __ ] 1300 square

foot apartment.

>> What makes them elite though?

>> It is interesting, right? What does that

mean?

>> Does it look like AI?

>> Let's see. It's Who knows nowadays,

right? Oh, look at this. Lay's got a fox

as a pet.

Oh, wow. They're like little dogs.

That's crazy,

>> bro.

>> But the thing about foxes are they are

like playful in the wild. Even wild

foxes are playful with people. Oh, this

little guy's missing a foot. A

I don't know if those are

wild or the thing

>> just showing foxes.

>> These are just different foxes. I don't

think these are those foxes. This is

just

>> right. It's showing the info and then

showing a bunch of different foxes. But

if you remember Grizzly Man, like that

movie, the Warner Herszog movie. So he

was living in the middle of Alaska

around these bears and the foxes would

come and hang out with him and the foxes

would like hang out in his tent. They

would play with him. They stole his hat

once and ran away with his hat and he

was like chasing him trying to get his

hat back.

>> And the bears don't attack the foxes.

Well, they probably would if they could,

but foxes probably can get away. I mean,

they probably catch a fox slipping every

now and then, but mostly what they were

looking for up there was salmon. They're

eating a lot of salmon. And when bears

get salmon, that's all they want. Like

you could There's a crazy video that

we've shown before of this guy and

they're on the edge of a river and the

salmon are running. There's all these

bears in there that'll just like just

gorging on salmon, which is why those

coastal bears are so much bigger. like

Kodiak bears like Alaska that the reason

why they're so much bigger is because

they have access to salmon. They have

access to fish and all the other animals

that are there too. But when they're

when there's a salmon run, that's all

they want. They just want to eat salmon.

>> So you're saying like if you give salmon

to a bear that's never had salmon

before, it'll just that's all they'll

want after.

>> No, that's not what I'm saying. I

wouldn't I It's probably delicious. I

mean, that's why we like sashimi. But I

think it's the access is so easy.

>> They don't have to chase anything. They

just stand in the river. It literally

comes to them. and they just bite it out

of the air. You see how bears do that?

>> And bears are kind of lazy. Like if they

can preserve energy, they will. They

just want to get fat for hibernation,

right? So, they just want to eat as much

as possible. So, the point is like when

that they're like that and they're just

eating fish, you don't even have to

worry about them. They're not even going

to kill you. So, this dude is like

sitting there. He's got like a little

lawn chair and this [ __ ] giant bear

just walks up besides him and sits down

like sits down almost like a person. And

they're like, "Hey, get out of here."

Hey. And I mean, it is as close to him

as you are to me. And it might be a

thousand pounds. I mean, this thing is

[ __ ] gigantic. And you see the river

behind him. So you see all these bears

that are just scooping salmon out of the

river.

>> And what is the what is the bear trying

to tell him about doing?

>> Bears on it. Doesn't give a [ __ ] He's

just come to sit down.

>> Like you might be a stick or a person.

It doesn't matter. It's eating salmon,

right? Like watch this. Look at this.

Look at this.

This dude's just sitting there with his

[ __ ] chair and this giant ass bear

just comes next to him. Look at the size

of that thing,

but it's not interested in him at all.

It's not like playing koi. It's not

pretending. It's not going to kill him.

Like it's it doesn't care about him.

Like it doesn't think that he's going to

eat it. That's for [ __ ] sure. Right. So

it's like he's just chilling. Like that

might as well be Look at it. He sits

down like a person. [laughter]

Oh, bro. You know what it is about these

[ __ ] is how fast it can go from

this to terrifying.

>> Yeah. To 45 miles an hour. But look,

he's like, "Hey, get out of here." Then

it walks off.

>> He's like, "All right, not looking for

any trouble. Just hanging out." It's

amazing that the thing listens to him,

but also amazing that he's not freaked

out. I guess he's taking a photo. So, in

that video, you see there's a ton of

bears that are just hanging out in that

stream. They just lay and they don't

fight with each other either during

those situations because they know

there's so much salmon, there's enough

for everybody. So like if one of them

kills a moose, right, the other ones

will come over and try to steal it from

them. [ __ ] you. That's my moose. And

they'll they'll because there's only one

food source. But on these rivers,

there's just constant fish coming out.

So they they're just grabbing them and

eating them. And they're [ __ ]

gigantic because of that.

>> We don't know [ __ ] about these animals,

man. No, little,

>> you know. [clears throat and snorts] Uh

I just saw some [ __ ] about Florida. So

they they have a serious uh uh snake

problem now.

>> Mhm.

>> Like uh I think it's it's

>> pythons.

>> Yeah, it's pythons. And um

>> how to [clears throat] do it on python

cowboy. He gave us a head. Where is that

head?

>> Do you know what that head is?

>> Well, yeah. Well, they so they they have

they've been trying to catch So,

apparently it came from the 80s and the

90s of like a big python pet boom and

then

>> it was a research center that got hit by

a hurricane.

>> Right. That's what I was about to say.

The hurricane came they released into

the wild. Now it's a problem and they

tried paying hunters to get them and

they tried to training dogs to find them

and nothing is good enough. But then

they made they made robot rabbits. You

see this? [laughter]

Yeah. They made they made robot rabbits

and they made them they made them they

put them in these boxes and they they

they generated fake body heat and and

and and the scent of rabbits and

everything and it did attract it did

pull the snakes but it pulled everything

else too. So what ended up happening is

the the snake's only natural predator

was these was was alligators and the

alligators was [ __ ] these things up

and the the snakes purposely avoid the

al the alligators.

>> So it end up having the opposite effect.

The snakes stayed away and the

alligators were [ __ ] these boxes up.

>> Oh wow.

>> And it was almost a complete waste. But

then one of the nerds as they were about

to shut the whole [ __ ] thing down, he

noticed in the data that

what they actually found out. So they

plugged it into AI and the AI did this

whole [ __ ] map of all the data cuz

because apparently before every attack

the uh the those boxes were still like

tracking movement and everything what

was going on. And they found out that

the animals have like highways.

So, it's not that the snakes were in

random places. It's that is that the

snakes and the alligators were using

these these highways that only they

could smell

>> of of like the quickest ways to get

through the Everglades and stuff like

that. And so they were able So now they

just they know where they are and they

know how they get from one part of the

of the swamp to the to the other.

>> Ah,

>> and they didn't. So we learned

something. We still don't know what the

[ __ ] to do about the pythons. They use

dogs a lot where the dogs find the eggs.

>> Well, they they've trained these two

dogs specifically, but but they got to

the point where it's like it, you know,

you just it's just so much ground to

cover. Two dogs ain't going to do it.

And it would cuz So that's the problem

with the pythons. I mean, we could wipe

them out if we wanted.

>> I don't think we can.

>> Well, well, the problem

>> the Everglades are so big.

>> Well, that's my point is we can't af

We just haven't found a way where we can

do it where it doesn't cost just a crazy

amount of money. Well, you think about

all the money they do spend [ __ ] on.

Like, if they got all this Somali

daycare center money back, they can kill

[laughter] the SP.

Yo, did you see Ilhan Omar? She was

reading off of a script. She's the woman

who's a congresswoman from Minnesota

from Minneapolis and she was read she's

connected at least accused of being

connected to the Somali daycare center.

She's Somali. She's accused of being

connected to this fraud. So, she's

reading off this uh script and you know

how people write World War II and they

use like I I for two.

>> Okay. Yeah.

>> She reads it as World War 11.

[laughter]

>> This is a congress person.

>> She's a congresswoman. See if you can

find the video, Jamie. It's It's kind of

adorable. It's kind of adorable because

I don't think English is her first

language already. At least it doesn't.

Last time the Alien Enemies Act was

invoked, it was used to detain and

deport German, Japanese, Italian

immigrants during World War 11.

>> OH, TWO.

>> AT LEAST [screaming] she caught it,

though.

>> I didn't know she caught it. I never saw

that. They always cut it off before she

caught it.

>> Well, that's politics, bro. Politics is

[ __ ] brutal, man.

>> It's gross. I don't understand why

anybody would want to go into it. But

you m how could you say World War 11?

Like you know there haven't been

>> Oh, but I've said

>> nine other wars you forgot about.

>> But I've said way dumber [ __ ] than

[laughter]

>> But have you ever readen off a written

speech?

>> I mean Oh man, I'm I would almost be you

know I do on a daily basis I do things

or say things that

like I'm like I I definitely shouldn't

have children, you know? Like I'm I'm

>> Well, if you did, they'd make fun of

you. I forget say stupid [ __ ] and my

kids make fun of me.

>> It's normal.

>> Yeah.

>> It's part of being a person to pretend

that you don't say stupid [ __ ] But the

thing is like you and I say stupid [ __ ]

publicly.

>> Like we'll say stupid [ __ ] on a podcast.

>> Oh yeah. And sometimes sometimes you get

paid to pay for it.

>> Mhm.

>> But I'm talking about stuff that I would

that I would be embarrassed to have said

publicly

>> like World War I.

>> Yeah. Like World War I because I I'm

telling you, I do [ __ ] like that all the

time. I have I have wacky uh Tony makes

fun of me all the time cuz he's like

you're like a cartoon character. I I

have that kind of luck where it's like

sometimes I just have those days, man. I

wake I woke I wake up this happened like

the remember when I was so last Tuesday,

right? last bottom of the barrel. You

walked in the green room and I told you

I I went to go smell the candle and I

didn't know those you know jelly roll

candles and it it's a bong and I wasn't

thinking about it and I went to smell

the candle and poured the wax on my

clothes right before I got to go off

stage and I was wearing like light pants

so it looked like I [ __ ] on my pants

as the wax was drying and and and that's

why I went home early that day cuz I was

like it was one of those days I woke up

and the day started that way. I I I woke

up to my CPAP machine crashing on the

floor because I rolled over and pulled

it off my nightstand.

>> And I get up to go to go deal with that

and I [ __ ] stubbed my toe and I'm

like, "It's going to be one of these

days. It's going to be one of these

[ __ ] days. I'm going to drop drop a

glass in the kitchen, you know."

>> So you just said, "Let's call it a day."

>> I said, "Let we got to call it. Go home.

Go right to sleep."

>> Interesting.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> So you gave up on the day?

>> No, I still I mean I still ended up at

the [laughter] I ended up at the

mothership that night, but I

>> But how your set was good though? My set

was good, but I took a nap. I napped

till the mother ship. Nothing can happen

while I'm sleep. Take this edible, take

a strong nap, get to the mother ship, do

my leave.

>> Almost like it's a new day cuz you just

woke up.

>> Mhm. But no, but then I spilled the wax

on me.

>> Oh.

>> So my brain was like, you don't get to

cheat.

>> Interesting. The idea of good days and

bad days based on just like that's this

is what the the world has planned for

you today. This is a bad day.

>> You know what it is? is if I don't get

the sunshine,

like I because I'm a night owl, which

kind of sucks, but if if either I need

to stay up for the sunshine cuz my I got

the blackout curtains,

>> but if I if I wake up late in the day

and I don't get no sunshine, I just I

feel dumber.

>> Yeah, definitely. I do too.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. And when I if I wake up late, even

if I get a good amount of sleep, like

more than 5 hours, but if I was up

really late at night and then I wake up

late, I feel off cuz your whole system's

all scrambled. Your system is used to

waking up in the morning and going to

bed at night. But if you stay up late,

like your brain is working on like 40%

capacity.

>> Sometimes I sometimes I cuz I'll get I'm

a big gamer. Sometimes I'll get it and

I'm one of those people like if I pay

$60 for a game or now it's like $80 but

I'mma play the [ __ ] out of like the day

it come out I'm playing it all night.

>> So you playing online or you playing the

game itself?

>> Both.

>> Both.

>> It depends. It depends on the game.

>> What is the games that you like?

>> Uh all type of [ __ ]

>> Like what's the big one right now?

>> Right now the game I'm playing the most

is called Deadlock. It's not It's not

avail It's not open available to the

public.

>> It is?

>> No, you

>> Dude, you're a developer. How do you get

this [ __ ] No, but you can get you have

to be invited. It's a closed what would

they call it? A closed beta or play

test. Closed play test.

>> That's how hardcore you are. You get

invited to beta tests.

>> Oh, yeah. I got I got a bunch of nerdy

friends.

>> Wow.

>> Uh yeah. Actually, my little one of my

little nerd groups is like it's it

through one of the servers at the mother

ship. We all game. We we on the same

Discord. We'll get on there. We Cuz it's

nice to have a group where it's like

some new [ __ ] come out and we like

>> yo

>> this is death lock.

>> Oh yeah.

>> This looks cool.

>> This [ __ ] cooler than a [ __ ] Oh

wow.

>> It also will make you mad as [ __ ]

>> So

>> So it's third person. So you're looking

at it in third person.

>> Yeah, it's third person.

>> And you get to pick who you are. Oh,

what was that?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There. Right now I

think there's 34 characters. So look,

that's all different people.

>> I know. What is There's a lot of

information on the screen that just

popped up.

>> Oh yeah.

>> Yeah. What's all those [laughter]

>> buddy? This

>> What are all those things?

>> This is crazy. I'm gonna [ __ ] this up in

a bunch of people. Okay. So So basically

Okay.

So,

so basically, so see see that bottom

that bottom left number, the green

number, 3003.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. So, those are souls, which is just

money,

>> right?

>> Money's or souls.

>> Yeah. In this game, just think of souls

as dollars. So, she's got $3,000.

>> And basically,

so what she the thing she just left is

the is the is the lane she was in. And

basically, how good how well you're

playing the game, how many kills you

get, how many minions you're getting,

you get more money. And the money lets

you go buy those items. That's what all

those cards are underneath those people.

It tells you what everyone's bought.

>> Okay.

>> And since this [ __ ] got the most money,

she's bought the most stuff, which makes

her stronger. So, this game's all about

snow. It's all about getting getting the

money to get stronger faster so you can

win.

>> Oh, okay.

>> Yeah. She So, and and you

>> It's like a zipline. Is she on a zipline

here?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Because if you see the see

on the right hand side,

>> that's that that's the map. She's So,

there's three different there's three

different lanes you have to control,

right?

And that big that big box is like the

Man, this is a lot to uh

>> Is this like League of Legends but on

the ground?

>> Exactly. Okay. I'm glad you put it like

that. But but that doesn't help Joe at

all.

>> He's like

Yeah. [laughter]

>> Okay. So So, so see the yellow side. See

the yellow side on on the left hand side

of the map. Okay. That first tower is

where you start at.

>> And and the point is to get stronger.

Get underneath that. Destroy it. Then

you work down to the second one. That

one is a little stronger. It defends

itself. That's what she's in front of

right now. Right. And then

>> they're on teams.

>> Yeah. Yeah. It's two teams trying to And

you're basically you're trying to work

yourself down to their base and kill the

kill the one in their base.

>> Oh wow. So you gang you join up with a

team of guys that are playing this

online.

>> Yeah. It's six on six.

>> Oh wow.

>> Um but then they just But here's the

thing. This is all very complicated and

all this, but they just introduced brawl

mode, which is or street brawl, which is

basically it knocks it down to four on

four. It t it makes it one lane and it

gives you random items. So you don't

have to do any of the complicated [ __ ]

You can just get in and get in.

>> So you get in, run around, grab

something, and beat people up with it.

>> Yeah. Like the the So basically the the

brawl mode is just a condensed version

of the game where you're just fighting.

You're not you don't have to worry about

managing anything. Boy, that looks like

it would take up a lot of time.

>> Oh, buddy. [laughter] Yeah, cuz here

because here's the thing. This what's

crazy about [ __ ] like that is if you're

if somehow you end up in a game where

everyone knows what they're doing and

everyone's communicating, one of those

games can be over in 25 minutes. But if

you're on a that's probably not going to

happen. It so it could go anywhere from

25 minutes and I to to an hour. I've

seen games go an hour.

>> Yeah. So it's like but most of if a game

is going that long it's just because

it's either because people are playing

with you because it's one of those

things where like if you get be if you

get behind to a certain point you can't

come back. That's the whole point of the

game.

>> Oh really?

>> Yeah. It's it's the whole point is a

snowball. It's like I'm so much stronger

than you that there's nothing you can

do. It gets to the point where I'm just

abusing you.

>> Okay. It's just because they've

collected the most stuff

>> because they just they they had they've

had the most money for the longest.

>> Oh. and they can just keep buying better

and better [ __ ] than you and there's

nothing you can do about it. Um, but my

point is you the point is for you to get

to a certain point and just end the

game. But some people don't know when

that is. You know,

>> here's the quick uh three sentence

overview of what the game is is a

futuristic urban fantasy New York.

You're gods part of an occult ritual

trying to destroy each other.

>> Yeah. So I'll be So the back the

backstory is an event happened called

the malstrom

>> that [laughter]

>> Yeah. Yeah. No, this is just the back

story. It opened up a portal that let

magic magic into the world

>> and all of these people got all these

abilities and powers and stuff like that

>> and and there's two opposing gods in

some other dimension and they want you

to summon them so they can cross over

into this realm. And and so there when

so the team you're on is whichever god

you're working for,

>> right?

>> And if you when you win the game, that's

supposed to be you completing the

ritual. And if you help complete the

ritual, you get a wish.

>> And so when you when you go to each

character, it tells you their backstory

and what they want what wish they want

when they get there.

>> Oh, okay.

>> Yeah. And some people don't want

nothing. They just want to [ __ ] people

up.

>> And how long you been playing this game?

[sighs]

>> It's been probably,

I don't know, a year and a half. So,

this seems super complicated and like it

would dedicate a considerable amount of

thinking.

>> It's very complex. You cuz you don't you

you don't even know what the [ __ ] you're

doing for like the first 200 hours.

[laughter]

>> Like it it takes about 200 hours before

you're like, "Okay, I kind of I kind of

get what's going on."

>> This is the kind of things that

[clears throat] people without kids say.

>> Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. I I

just I can't I'm not I'm definitely I'm

definitely a 43 year old child. Like I

don't live like an adult.

>> Yeah. No, I live like almost like a frat

like a frat boy or something.

>> Well, if you could pull it off, those

are when you ask people cuz some of the

happiest times of their life [laughter]

for

>> when they were young and free.

Especially people that don't like what

they do,

>> right? People get a job and they don't

like it and then they have

responsibilities and they can't leave

their job.

>> [ __ ] Or people that get a wife and

don't like her.

>> That happens a lot.

>> That happens too much.

>> Well, that happens too much. [laughter]

and a husband you don't like too. Both

both sides.

>> Oh yeah, that's probably worse.

>> It happen. Well, both of them are bad,

but it happens a lot. A lot of people.

>> Are you gaming one of these, Brian?

>> Um, that was

insane. That's

>> But that seems like how you should be

playing a game like this, right?

>> Yeah. In a dark room. Let's talk.

>> Yeah. I mean, but the thing is that I

don't think that chair is very

comfortable.

>> How dare you? That chair goes upside

down. You're laying down, brother.

>> There's versions of it you could make.

You could customize.

>> Oh [ __ ] How much? Six grand. So wait a

minute. It

>> This is zero gravity. Watch. Hit the

different images. Look at it. It's like

that, Brian.

>> Oh, that's crazy.

>> That's what I'm talking about.

>> That's crazy. But what else does it do?

Does it massage?

>> Sucks your dick.

>> I mean, 10 grand.

>> Mouth comes out. Just sucks your dick.

>> Yeah, I'll take that. Can you piss in

that?

>> Well, it used to be 10 grand. It's on

sale.

>> They have the one that's also like the

Have you seen the bed version?

>> The what?

>> Well, this one. This one does go

backwards, right? Show Show a version of

it where it's completely reclined.

>> That's what I was trying to

>> You got this [ __ ] don't you, Jamie?

>> No, but I've said Oh, it's a Scorpion.

>> Let me show you something else. Hold on.

>> So,

>> that's pretty wicked.

>> And so, you can adjust that and you can

make the screen right in front of your

face.

>> Yeah, bro. I'm about to skip four heart

treatments and get that chair.

[laughter]

>> I'm about to get that [ __ ]

>> This is the other version. That one's

pretty cool, too. It's quite the same.

>> I actually prefer what we're looking at

here.

>> This do you?

>> Well,

>> you prefer that to the the one that you

lie back.

>> Cuz I don't I don't use a only The only

games I use a controller with is Madden.

>> So, you're a a mouse and keyboard guy.

>> Yeah. Almost exclusively.

>> That's what I am.

>> A little futon built on.

>> I never play. I never figured out how to

use.

>> [ __ ] that futon. Listen, if you going to

Who's choosing a futon? If you got the

money for a good gaming PC, you you

better not have no futon.

>> Well, that's He just went all in on the

gaming PC.

>> Yeah. I mean, no choice, no chance of

[ __ ]

>> My shit's got kind of my It's gotten

kind of crazy recently.

>> Yeah.

>> Oh, yeah. Did I Did I ain't never show

you? Check this [ __ ] out.

>> What you got?

>> Um, hold on. Let make sure.

>> Are there any other ones that do it with

a even bigger screen like that? That

kind of a deal? Like what is the

ultimate setup for like somebody like a

Bill Gates wanted to start? There's a

new uh like the for the F1 rig we have.

Yeah. There's a new screen that's come

out that's like a 106 even. I don't

know.

>> So that that's my [ __ ] right there.

>> Ooh. Oh, you got a dual monitor setup.

Curved monitors.

>> Two uh dope super ultra wide. [sighs]

>> That's a problem.

>> Yeah, it's a problem.

>> That's a problem.

>> Yeah, it is.

>> Um I'm going to send this to me. Send it

to me and I'll send it to Jamie. Oh, do

you have Jamie's number?

>> Yeah, I know. I got Jamie's number.

>> Send it to Jamie because that that image

is crazy. We need to show people that

image. That's a problem. If I had that,

that'd be a real problem.

>> Um Jamie, don't I got your number? Don't

>> I do my best writing, like when I get

the most done on my laptop because I

don't ever look at anything else on that

laptop. The only time I use the internet

at all is to check things to like find

out if something's real. And even that I

don't use anymore because I use

Perplexity for that now. I just talk

into the the phone. But when if you have

that much distraction,

>> like two monitors like that, I would

never leave. I would just be playing

games all It's too fun.

>> It's It's a It's too much.

>> It's too much sometimes. It is. It is.

>> And uh

>> it's a they're a [ __ ] problem, man.

Games are a problem because they're so

good.

>> You know what it is, man? Is it It's a

It's a dopamine drip.

>> Look at that. Look at that setup, bro.

What's that thing on the right?

>> Um, that is for controlling the sound.

So So basically like uh so say I'm in

the I'm in the chat. I'm in the Discord

chat and uh

>> uh and and I got a YouTube video planned

and I'm in the middle of a game. Right.

>> Right. Then

I don't I can I can reach over and turn

down the volume of the game so I can

hear somebody more clearly or turn up

the music and without having to open up

anything on my

>> That's crazy. You are an addict.

[laughter]

>> Yeah.

>> Jamie, you don't have that, do you? I

was going to show you mine. He's got

I've got way more than that. [laughter]

>> Oh yeah. No. Yeah. Jamie's out of

control. I have I have a soundboard

played or connected into mine so I can

[ __ ] with [clears throat] people

and stuff.

>> Can you can you blur that top thing cuz

that's got it's got people's names.

>> Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I will.

>> Um yeah, but like I can record sound

like live sound when someone's chatting

and I can record their voice and play it

back like instantly. That's amazing.

>> This is me not streaming. I'm I'm going

to start streaming this summer. So, I'm

going to have to add a couple of things.

>> So, you're going to start playing video

games and streaming it?

>> Yeah,

>> you can make a lot of money.

>> It's easy money, too. It's crazy cuz

you're already going to play games.

>> And I know some I know some people just

like they don't go on the road because

they make so much money doing this.

>> Wow. But the problem is how long is that

going to last? Going on the road is

forever.

>> Oh yeah, but you can always do that.

>> Yeah, but you might not have an audience

anymore.

>> You have that audience?

>> Oh, that's true.

>> But they'll be they'll be still stuck.

>> You ever you ever had T pay on here?

>> No.

>> Yeah. T Payne he's one of like he don't

he's like yo you got to you got to offer

me a lot of money. because he still goes

on the road, but it's like you gotta pay

him because he makes so he's like, "Why

would I leave? Why would I take less

money to leave my house?"

>> So, he just streams.

>> He streams. Yeah.

>> His setup he's got is [ __ ] crazy.

>> It's insane.

>> Yeah.

>> He's like, we have one F1 setup. I think

he bought six. Uh he's got his whole

studios in one room. He's got the racing

room over here. He's got the the I think

probably four different rooms

>> for different things. So,

>> and he'll game or he'll have on guests

or he'll just make a he'll just make a

song live in front of you.

>> It's just his like normal live setup.

He's got

>> he's got fun setups. He's got See, he's

got multiple screens around there.

>> Oh, that's crazy. So, he has a whole

room dedicated.

>> Oh yeah.

>> Oh my god.

>> It's all wired together, too.

>> Oh, so when he's streaming, how is he

making money?

>> Sponsors. I think he he's definitely a

Twitch partner of some kind.

>> Okay. So you you get sponsors and like

how much do you think he's making?

>> [ __ ] I I couldn't I don't even I mean

if I had to speculate.

>> Yeah, speculate.

>> I would say he's probably make pulling

in at least

a quarter million a month or something

like that. Probably more than that.

>> Just playing video games.

>> Just just streaming. He don't even have

to play video games. Sometimes he's just

talking.

>> That's crazy. Just Well, there's a lot

of that, right? A lot of streamers.

>> Yeah. That there's

>> like a lot of political streamers that

just talking. There's different people

that do different things. There's in

there's they call them IRL streamers.

There's nuisance streamers where they

>> nuisance.

>> Yeah. They just walk around with people.

[ __ ] with people. Yeah.

>> Two drip simulators, two circuit racing

simulators, and one flight simulator

down there at the end.

>> So, this is the VR room.

>> Wow.

>> The computer I play on is right here.

>> You step down here.

>> Wa.

>> It's VR. We got sensors in the roof.

>> This is the workshop. It was just a

utility room, but I'm like, why not put

3D printers in there? This is 3D

printers. As you can see, I took a lot

of inspiration from Tron. Hold on.

[laughter]

>> That's amazing.

>> And was And he's And he's married

though.

>> Yeah. But he's making money. This is his

wife. [laughter] How's his wife going to

complain? You want to go shopping?

Listen, lady. This is how we make the

money for you to go shopping.

>> You're right. You're right.

>> You know, I mean, she can't complain if

that's what you actually earn money at.

>> You know, my wife used to complain about

the podcast before I started making

money.

>> Really?

>> Well, she was like, "You don't have to

do that." I was like, "I do. I have to

do it." I told people I'd be doing it on

Monday at x amount of whatever whatever

time it was

>> you. But that's just always

>> how long until you were like I could

[ __ ] this is making money.

>> Oh, it took years. I didn't even try. I

never tried to make any money with it.

>> I always did it for free. I did it for

fun.

>> For how many years?

>> I didn't make money for years.

>> Oh wow.

>> Zero money for years.

>> I never even thought of it making money.

It was just for fun. I would just have

everybody come over like Siguro would

come over, Eddie Bravo would come over,

Joey would come over, Duncan. We would

just talk [ __ ] and just have laughs. It

was just for fun. We enjoyed the [ __ ]

out of it. We had a vaporizer. This

giant bag,

>> the volcano.

>> Yeah, the volcano. Oh my god, the thing

was horrendous.

>> I remember when them things first came

out. They [ __ ] a lot of people's

world.

>> [ __ ] a lot of people [ __ ] our world

up. There's a lot of podcasts in the

early days that are unlistenable or

watchable because we're just

obliterated.

>> And I I thought it could never get past

that. And now they got, you know, then

they then people came up with the dabs,

>> bro. Jelly Roll has this machine. It

looks like a robot. It looks like a

little like a little Pokemon robot.

>> Yeah. Wait a minute. Is it that Cuz

Frank Castillo is one of the He's like

sponsored by those people.

>> That's crazy.

>> Those things are crazy.

>> It's called Peak. The Peak people. You

don't know.

>> I don't know if it's a Peak. It looks

like it's a device. He scared me just

looking at it.

>> Can you look up the Peak Pro?

>> It's big like this uh like this French

press.

>> Yeah, bro. And listen and every time I

see Frank, they've come out with a new

one. They have one that they have one

that's like a Sherlock Holmes pipe. It's

all electronic and it's all for dabs.

But every time every time he visits me,

he's like, "Hey, bro, check this [ __ ]

out."

>> People like him with a reason why weed

still isn't legal. [laughter]

>> Well, actually, I just read something

today that Trump is Trump is making um

>> It's schedule three now.

>> Yeah.

>> Oh, he Oh, it's done.

>> It's done. Weed.

>> Yeah, weed is schedule three.

>> So, schedule three. First of all, it

should be right with alcohol. If you're

21, leave me the [ __ ] alone.

>> Wait, is what is what schedule is

alcohol? Alcohol is not scheduled. It's