Intel Should Second-Source Nvidia
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# Intel Should Second-Source Nvidia
In August 2025, the Wall Street Journal reported that the United
States Government is considering to take a financial stake in Intel.
A bit later, Bloomberg reported that the
US Government is looking to take a 10% stake via CHIPS Act money.
The Intel situation is fluid. And my style of work is not suited for these strange,
24-second news cycle. Things change on a dime. But I have an idea that I want to write about.
One of Intel's problems is that its old monopoly is dying. So to revive it, I think Intel should
get access to Nvidia's crown jewels. In today's video, a modest proposal regarding Intel.
## Waving the Bully Stick
By the way, I just want to let you guys know that I'll be in Arizona for SEMICON
West in early October. If you're going, shoot me an email and let's meet up!
So what seems most likely about to happen is that the US Government
and a few aligned investors first take a stake in Intel.
The government puts up money to finish the fab in Ohio. Then raises tariffs to a high
number with some carveouts to satisfy the crowd. And then they will apply
pressure to the tech giants to get them to throw some orders at Intel Foundry.
There's a comment on the WallStreetBets thread on the story that succinctly lays down the sentiment:
> Dude is 100% gonna "nudge" Apple and Nvidia to use their 14A foundries,
this is gonna skyrocket by EOY 2026 in the 100s
Doug O'Laughlin of Fabricated Knowledge agrees and adds that
pressure might also be applied onto the semiconductor equipment companies too:
> Additionally, forcing semicap companies like KLAC,
Applied Materials, and Lam Research to invest and give resources in exchange
for approved licenses is another example of a carrot and a stick.
A few companies have already started to turn on this. For instance, just as I write this,
Intel has announced that SoftBank agreed to make a $2 billion investment into them.
Considering how Masa invests, I am not surprised he's first through the gate. There is news that
he was in talks to buy Intel's fabs. Maybe that will happen by the time you see this.
## Coalition of the Unwilling
As I said before, this seems to be what the plan is. A Girl Scout cookie drive
to raise money for Intel. Raise tariffs. Shake out some orders.
I have no doubt that the US Government will speak loudly and waggle a stick. But as Wei
Zhou of SemiAnalysis put it in a recent episode of the Transistor Radio podcast, the result would be
a "coalition of the unwilling". There because they have to be, not because they want to.
Bullying the seven American tech giants - Meta, Google, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft,
Nvidia, and Tesla - to come together would be a monumental effort. When have we seen all seven
or even a majority of these seven work together on a business initiative that has gone anywhere?
I am reminded of US Memories. In the late 1980s, the Semiconductor Industry Association tried to
assemble an American coalition to fund an effort to make DRAMs in the United States.
Seven American companies nominally agreed to join including three major computer manufacturers.
But less than a year in, DRAM prices started falling. With supply more than fulfilled,
the DRAM buyers like Apple and Sun lost interest or worse,
ran out the clock - hemming and hawing until things fell apart.
Intel has yet to produce a leading-edge chip for a third-party customer. A foundry is like a bakery.
Right now, Intel's cake menu is limited because its kitchen has for so long been optimized just
for Intel x86 CPUs. Expanding a menu takes years, and many skills, and many mistakes.
Now we suddenly want them to take on orders ... from seven of the world's biggest, most demanding
customers ... for hundreds of thousands of the most sophisticated cakes ever made ... vastly
different cakes too ... and deliver those cakes on time ... and in excellent working condition?
## The MP Materials Scenario
I want to discuss a few other scenarios that has come to my attention in recent days.
Doug mentioned MP Materials' rare earths deal with the Department of
Defense. Rare earths have many uses, but the most significant
are powerful permanent magnets used in electric motors, hard drives, and more.
The People's Republic of China famously monopolizes the supply
of rare earths through superior refining capacity
and market-distorted low prices. The whole market is worth about $3 billion.
The US Government understands this. So classic industrial policy from Europe and Asia,
we back a national champion. MP Materials owns the Mountain Pass mine in California.
In July 2025, the US Department of Defense announced a $400 million investment into MP.
DoD also agreed to acquire 100% of the output from a magnet refinery that MP is building,
with the price set at a cost-plus basis.
This will probably work for rare earths - especially if we accept the environmental
damages that we know will come with refining them. But rare earths are commodities dug out
of the ground. They are not chips imbued with IPs provided by third-party companies and customers.
Moreover, the numbers involved are just phenomenally larger here in the Intel
scenario. People estimate that Intel needs something like $40 billion to
finish its fabs. Moreover, the fabs must also be upgraded so to stay at
the leading edge. So continual capital influxes over the years.
## The TSMC Scenarios
There have been a few proposals that involve TSMC, the market leader.
A few weeks ago, the Taiwanese news media reported that one of the conditions that the US wanted from
Taiwan in exchange for a lower reciprocal tariff rate was that TSMC take a 49% stake in Intel.
And a few months ago, before Lip-bu Tan became the CEO, there was news in the New
York Times that TSMC could take control of Intel's plants as part of a larger split.
A third proposal also comes to mind. Writer and friend of the channel Tim Culpan of Culpium has
long predicted that TSMC will someday spin off its Arizona assets as a publicly traded subsidiary.
So how about we merge TSMC's US assets with Intel's? We can also fold in GlobalFoundries,
Texas Instruments, and all the other semiconductor companies too! Yeah! Let's do it!
On a technical level, TSMC and Intel's process nodes are different
and incompatible with each other. TSMC wants nothing to do with Intel's nodes.
If they got into an Intel fab, all they would want is the equipment.
And the culture clashes would make all the toxicity of the Arizona build look
like a walk in the park. I asked a TSMC manager before about a TSMC-Intel merger, and he said
that Intel'ers might be afraid of TSMC, but TSMC managers are afraid of Intel employees.
So no, I don't think these three scenarios will work. So here goes my new idea.
## What Funded Intel's Fabs
The thing that I want to hone on is what I believe to be the source of Intel's massive profits.
Those profits do not come from semiconductor manufacturing excellence. Rather, it is the
opposite. Intel leverages its profits to fund an advanced semiconductor-manufacturing division.
Intel has certainly before integrated a few impressive technologies into its process nodes,
but they didn't originate those technologies.
Like the High-K Metal Gate was first explored by IBM,
Sematech and other companies in the industry. Though I am aware
that Intel pioneered the Gate-Last method that properly integrated High-K metal gate.
Two other iconic semiconductor technologies were copper interconnects and EUV. Again,
IBM invented the damascene techniques that made copper interconnects possible.
And as we know, a Japanese researcher first proposed
EUV. And the core technology pioneered by the US Government's Department of Energy.
Intel did help fund and move that effort towards commercialization.
So I just want to say that I give Intel full credit for executing
on these technology integrations. But research is a terrible business - that
is why it's done by nonprofits. And it's far easier to execute when money is no object.
So where does Intel massive profits in the 1980s and 1990s come from if not manufacturing? They
came from Intel's aggressive sales, slick marketing, and above all,
IP lock-in. Wilf Corrigan, founder and former CEO of Fairchild, recalls in an oral history:
> One company controls the whole industry like DeBeers
controls the worldwide diamond business ...
> this is an IP control, it's not because necessarily Intel can manufacture better
than anybody else though they're a very good manufacturing company today.
> It's really the control of the IP, the intellectual property, the patents,
the legal position, the copyright control and so on, which nobody's been able to break
Wilf has it right. Throughout American history,
control over special IPs has consistently built monopolies. At first through patents,
like in the case of AT&T and Marconi, and then later industry standards like the Wintel PC.
Intel funds its fabs through its grip on IP. That special IP being
its x86 instruction set architecture - that set of special instructions that
a software can tell a CPU's hardware to perform on data - first implemented with
microcode. When x86 lost its place in the computing world, thus so did Intel.
## A Second Source
So what can we do? If we can't bring back the x86 monopoly for Intel,
how about we gift them a franchise that is just as profitable?
At an AI summit in July 2025, Trump told the audience that he considered breaking up Nvidia,
to give them a little competition. But aides told him it was not so easy or something like that.
So no breaking up Nvidia. But if Jensen Huang so respects and wants to work with Trump, then how
about sharing some of Nvidia's consumer surplus with Intel for the sake of national security?
I harken back to the 1960s and 1970s, when the US military and large companies demanded
that their semiconductor suppliers strike second-sourcing deals with
"second-sourcers" - often another large semiconductor company. So the original
owner licenses over their technology to the second-sourcer, done via a transfer process.
One of the most famous such deals took place in 1976 and then 1981.
As a condition of putting an Intel CPU inside their PC, IBM demanded that Intel
license and share their chip technology to a second source. That turned out to be AMD,
and helped make AMD the critical second source for x86 chips in the 1980s.
Nvidia's edge over other AI chip companies like AMD is its proprietary software framework,
CUDA. CUDA exhibits exceptional robustness, maturity, and backwards compatibility as
compared to competing frameworks. And it is the basis of Nvidia's 80% gross margins.
So the idea is Nvidia issues Intel a license for the IPs and patents in the Nvidia CUDA
and AI ecosystem, and does a technology transfer. With the goal being that Intel
can produce "Nvidia-compatible" chips in their American fabs to be sold as a second source.
That Intel-AMD deal was structured as a mutually beneficial exchange of products based on those
products' complexity and design effort as defined by a formula. So if they'd like,
they can have Intel issue an x86 license to Nvidia in return.
Nvidia sells a CPU of their own called Grace, and they apparently bundle it
together with their GPUs. If you buy the GPUs, you have to buy the CPUs too.
Grace isn't an x86 chip and I highly doubt that Nvidia will want to convert
it over to x86. But perhaps they do it to expand the x86 ecosystem.
I don't know how much of the AI accelerator market that Intel can expect to get with its
Nvidia-compatibles. Nvidia made $150 billion in revenue and $89 billion
in profits over the past twelve months. Let's assume that's the current market.
Go back to the IBM PC, the PC-compatibles took roughly about 30% in their first year and 40%
their second as guys like Compaq, Columbia Data and others entered. So let's say the
compatibles get 20-30% of the AI market to be conservative. That's $30-45 billion of product
revenue potentially each year. Enough to fund Intel's factories so long the AI boom continues.
Nvidia's gross margins and revenues will of course fall. But margins were pushing
80%. So I think they remain one of the world's largest companies by market cap.
So I reckon they'll be fine. Maybe they can get a tariff credit or something.
## Conclusion
I want to emphasize that this is just a crazy idea. There will of course many
legal and technical objections. So most likely,
the government just does the obvious thing. The stuff we talked about earlier.
But there are a few reasons why I like this idea
so much. For one thing, it exercises both the company's product and manufacturing sides.
With all the talk about national security, Intel's product half has sorta faded out
of the conversation. But the products still matter. It was one of the first
things mentioned by the Board at Gelsinger's retirement announcement: Products lead the way.
An Nvidia second-sourcing agreement allows Intel Product to develop an in-demand,
leading-edge product, but do it in the way that they are
familiar with - by working closely with their folks at Manufacturing.
And Intel Manufacturing can get comfortable working with its internal customer on a
technically demanding, high volume product to clear the pipes, and get its kitchen ready for
opening to outside customers. No dealing with 7 very mean tech giant customers.
Another thing I like to add is that second-sourcers can help improve the
overall ecosystem to everyone's benefit. If AI is going to create an intelligence explosion,
then it would be nice to have more than just Nvidia in there.
This is more than by just cutting prices. They can also contribute,
technically. AMD, the once second-source copycat, has contributed several things
to the x86 framework that were licensed back to Intel like AMD64.
And finally, the idea has this sort of "teach a man to fish" thing. Intel's problems are
so big that just repeatedly giving them fishes - i.e. cash infusions - will not
solve the core issue at hand. We help them by teaching them a productive business. That
has been the problem all this time. So let's make Nvidia share theirs.
Ask follow-up questions or revisit key timestamps.
The US government is considering taking a financial stake in Intel, potentially a 10% stake through the CHIPS Act, to help revive the company's struggling monopoly. A modest proposal suggests Intel should gain access to Nvidia's core technologies, specifically its CUDA and AI ecosystem, through a licensing and technology transfer agreement. This would enable Intel to produce Nvidia-compatible chips in its American fabs, serving as a second source in the AI market. This strategy is likened to historical second-sourcing deals, such as the one between Intel and AMD for x86 chips. While the government might resort to more traditional methods like increasing tariffs and pressuring tech giants, the second-sourcing idea offers a way to leverage Intel's manufacturing capabilities and potentially boost the AI ecosystem beyond Nvidia's dominance. Other scenarios involving TSMC and MP Materials are discussed but deemed less feasible.
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