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Welcome to the Daybreak Asia podcast.

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I'm Doug Krer. Oil prices are trading

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higher due to an escalation of military

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activity in the war with Iran.

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Earlier,Qatar reported extensive damage

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at the complex housing the world's

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largest LNG export plant. It was struck

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by an Iranian missile. And this strike

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came just hours after Iran threatened

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energy facilities across the Gulf. That

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threat, incidentally, was issued after

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the US and Israel struck the South Pars

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LG field. South Pars is jointly owned by

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Iran and Qatar. Cutter called the strike

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a dangerous and irresponsible step and

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later cutter expelled Iran's military

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and security attaches from the country.

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for a closer look at what's happening in

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the LNG market. I'm joined by

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Bloomberg's Singiong. Singi covers

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energy. She joins us from our studios in

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Singapore. Thank you for being here. Can

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you describe for me what you're seeing

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in the LG market right now?

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>> Thank you for having me. Well, for LG

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right now, we're seeing, you know,

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prices being really elevated. So, um,

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ever seen ever since Qatar halted its

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production, we've seen Asian LG prices

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double. And right now they're still at

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around that level. It's pulled back a

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little bit, but it still remains really

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high. And that is, you know, causing a

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lot of buyers to wait and see. We

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already see some Asian buyers not being

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able to secure cargos that they need for

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the coming months.

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>> So much of the conversation around the

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war has to do with the straight of

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Hormuz and the fact that it's been

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effectively closed. give me a sense of

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the LNG traffic that typically goes

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through the straight.

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>> Yeah, so it's it's a really big impact.

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We are also seeing about 20% um of LNG

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shipments go through the straight of

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Hormuz and um of these shipments

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actually a lot of these shipments are

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towards Asia. So Asia is actually seeing

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a lot of that impact. One of the things

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that I remember about LNG that it has to

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be cooled, liquefied and then compressed

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when it is transited. And in my mind

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when you talk about an environment where

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war is the central issue here, it would

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be very very dangerous to transport this

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kind of cargo through a war zone. Right.

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>> Yeah. Exactly. So that's why we're

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seeing that you know a lot of these

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cargos there right now they're stuck in

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the straight of Hormuz. We don't see any

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shipments carrying LG passing through

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the straight at the moment, but that's

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something that we're keenly watching out

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for.

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>> I'm curious, Singi, are other LG

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producers stepping up to compensate for

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the interruption of LG out of the Middle

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East?

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>> Hey, so right now we're actually seeing

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like a lot of the other major producers

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that includes um Australia and the US,

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they're actually already running at

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almost full capacity. So in that sense

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it's really hard for them to increase

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their production and to export more. And

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uh one big impact that we're seeing

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right now is that in Asia parts of Asia

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like South Asia and Southeast Asia they

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are seeing you know hot weather and that

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might increase gas consumption in the

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coming months. And then if we look a

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little bit further ahead from May

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onwards um we have countries like Japan

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like Korea they're going to experience

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really hot weather because of the summer

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and that is also going to further strain

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the market because that will lift gas

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demand basically for like air

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conditioning electricity power demand

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and yeah that we we see like a real pain

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point there

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>> and European countries I know are

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heavily reliant on LG as well. Yeah,

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exactly. And for Europe, we see that

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their stockpiling season is coming up

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right in a few weeks. And so that will

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sort of increase the competition with

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Asia for this limited pool of supplies.

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>> In terms of the actual price, can you

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talk to me about how much we have seen a

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price appreciation over the period where

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the war has been uh kind of prosecuted?

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So for Asian LG prices um before the war

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broke up we saw spot prices trading at

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about $10 or $10 plus but right now they

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are above $20. So in terms of Asian LG

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prices that has you know doubled and

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that is actually causing a lot of pain

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as well for countries that are more

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price sensitive. I'm wondering whether

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power producers have been able to switch

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to an alternative fuel that they would

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use to create electricity.

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>> Yeah. So that's something really

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interesting that we're seeing. I mean

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like for Europe they can depend a lot

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more on renewables because they have a

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really huge share of wind power but for

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Asia you know the the grid is more

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accustomed to coal. So we see actually a

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lot of um countries looking at coal as

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an option. So for example um we're

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seeing Bangladesh has already you know

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increased its coal fired power

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generation and then we have countries

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like Taiwan that has mentioned it is

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looking at increasing that as well.

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>> So the LG story is quickly becoming an

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inflation story is it not?

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>> Well what's the most important is that

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LG is central to consumers because you

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know we use power we use electricity

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everywhere. So this problem where LG is

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stuck in the straight of Hormuz and

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where Qatar has effectively halted

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production, it's going to affect the

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world in a sense that consumers are

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going to see rising prices for

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electricity and you know especially

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industries that use large amounts of

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electricity like for example the

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semiconductor industry they will see

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prices increase quite a bit as well.

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>> Singi thank you so very much. We'll

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leave it there. Bloomberg Singiong

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energy reporter from Singapore joining

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here on the Daybreak Asia podcast.

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Welcome back to the Daybreak Asia

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podcast. I'm Doug Krer. We turn next to

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the Fed. Policy makers left the Fed

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funds rate unchanged and they continue

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to expect just one rate cut this year.

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The Fed also acknowledged increased

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uncertainty due to war in the Middle

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East. Chair J. Powell said it's simply

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too soon to know the scope and duration

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of the potential effects on the economy.

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For a closer look, I'm joined by

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Bloomberg strategist David Finity. David

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joins us from our studios in Singapore.

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Thank you for being here. This was not a

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surprise that the Fed funds rate was

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left unchanged. So far though, it seems

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like the war has been a dollar positive

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story because of what's been happening

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with crude oil. What is your

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expectation, David, given everything

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that you heard from the Fed? Will the

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dollar remain strong or do you see some

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sort of risk now that things could

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falter?

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>> I think certainly in the near term risks

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are skewed towards dollar strength at

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the moment and we don't see any

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near-term end to this war in Iran and

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with the escalation and on the strikes

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oil prices are pushing higher which

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adding to inflation expectations and

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therefore you're seeing the expectations

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for market expectations for Fed rate

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cuts dial back quite severely. If you

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think of before the the war started, I

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think the market was pricing 61 basis

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points of Fed rate cuts this year. Now

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it's down to 14. So considerable

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adjustment being made. And I think if

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you look at the Fed dot plot yesterday,

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there are signs in there that even yes,

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one rate cut was predicted this year

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which was in line with expectations and

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the same at the December um dot plot.

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There have been subtle adjustments. The

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number of Fed governors predicting two

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rate cuts was reduced from eight in

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December down to five and then the

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long-term or the neutral rates we say

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basically edged up from in the dot plot

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edged up from three to 3.125%.

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So the hawkish sentiment is starting to

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build again that could change but

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certainly you're seeing that. So the

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idea of that that adds to this idea of

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dial back the expectations for freight

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cuts which is dollar positive. So in the

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near term, yes, you would save anything.

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Not hugely unexpected what it did, but

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it does add to the idea of that it's,

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you know, not a tailwind for dollar

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sentiment.

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>> So David, you and I both remember that

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coming out of the pandemic, the Fed held

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to this idea that inflation was

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transitory. And at the end of the day,

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it proved to be a lot stickier than

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people had imagined. I'm wondering

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whether the risk for the market right

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now is even when the dust on the war

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settles there are simply too many

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unknowns on the inflation story.

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>> Yeah, I mean there's obviously that's a

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worry that inflation expectations uh

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become unanchored again and start to

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push higher again. How it really comes

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back to again that how high how long

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like you know if hypothetically the war

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was to end in 2 weeks and you'd guess

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that oil prices would drop quite quickly

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and then sort of we go back the market

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react moves forward very very quickly

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indeed. So it really is this uncertainty

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of how long and obviously we don't have

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that answer. You know theoretically it

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could go on three two weeks it could be

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2 months it could be 6 months we just we

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just don't know at the moment. Um and

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that's why I think keeping the market

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uncertain but what we do know is the

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longer it goes on that certainly not

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good for inflation expectations which

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you know does put pressure on the Fed

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certainly to leave rates unchanged for

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upcoming meetings. I'm wondering given

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the level of uncertainty as a result of

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the war whether there is a risk small as

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it may be that the next move on the part

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of the Fed is a rate hike. Is that too

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much to say? Look,

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>> yeah, I think you can never say never. I

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think Fed Chair Pal was interesting. He

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certainly said, look, we're not at that

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stage yet. And I think for that to come

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to fruition, you would need, you know,

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oil prices to remain elevated for quite

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a long while. Um and that really feed

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into inflation expect inflation and

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inflation expectations. So while you can

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never say never um I think at the moment

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the sentiment is look we need certainly

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a lot more data for that to happen. It

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will take several months for that to

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feed through to economy. So at the

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moment the idea of look one rate cut is

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still on the priced in it is fair. The

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Fed is saying but as we know they've

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always said look they're data dependent.

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Ironically, now it's state dependent war

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dependent. Um, how long this goes and

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again we have no idea. President Trump

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has indicated we may be nearing an end.

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Um, whether that comes to fruition or

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not, we will see.

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>> Terms of the currency behavior, I'm

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looking at a euro at a buck 14, a yen

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that's just shy of 160 against the

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greenback. What are the currency crosses

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that you're looking at most closely

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>> uh against currency crosses? So, you

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know, obviously if you want to take

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dollar out of the equation, which a lot

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of traders try to because you're

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basically just if you train dollar,

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you're heavily just trading headlines at

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the moment. Um, so ones that certainly

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popular are the Aussie crosses. The

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Aussie given the RBA sentiment of you

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know, hish sentiment. So any Aussie

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cross, certainly Aussie Kiwi has been a

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very popular cross that's being traded

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relatively heavily. I say relatively

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because Aussie dollar Aussie dollar

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versus the greenback uh was quite

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heavily traded because it's a bit more

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liquid. But obviously Kiwis's been a

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popular one and that's been just going

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higher and higher. So that's a popular

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trade. Um outside of that you I think

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you're looking at want to keep an eye on

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certainly with SMB today is Euro Swiss

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Frank it's sort of it has picked up from

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a a bottom but I think the question is

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you know with SMB Swiss National Bank

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today is you know they don't like this

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the strong Swiss Frank they said that

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several times you know how much you know

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how I don't want to say hish because I

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don't think they're going to raise rates

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obviously but how much they push back

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against you know on this Swiss Frank

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strength I think that's going to be

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interesting so that's Another cost I'd

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keep an eye on.

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>> David, we'll leave it there. It's always

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a pleasure. Thank you so very much.

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Bloomberg strategist David Finery

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joining us from Singapore here on the

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Daybreak Asia podcast.

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Thanks for listening to today's episode

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Interactive Summary

The Daybreak Asia podcast discusses the economic repercussions of escalating military activity in the Middle East, particularly the war involving Iran. Oil prices are rising after an Iranian missile strike severely damaged Qatar's largest LNG export plant, disrupting global LNG supply and trade routes like the Strait of Hormuz. Asian LNG prices have doubled, causing buyers to seek alternatives like coal and leading to inflationary pressure on consumer electricity costs. The Federal Reserve has maintained current interest rates, acknowledging the increased uncertainty due to the war, which is contributing to dollar strength and reducing market expectations for rate cuts. The duration of the conflict remains a significant unknown, influencing inflation expectations and the Fed's future policy decisions. Currency traders are also closely monitoring crosses such as AUD/NZD and EUR/CHF amidst the market volatility.

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