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>> Luxury sports car manufacturer Aston

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Martin revving up its newest vehicle,

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the Aston Market Martin Valon from its

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V12 series. The company touting it as

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the most powerful front engine Aston

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Martin in its 113-year history. And it's

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limiting production well to just 150

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cars worldwide. Joining us right now is

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the chief executive officer of Aston

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Martin, Adrien Hallmark. Adrian, uh,

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great to have you here. Uh, I I mean, I

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am curious. Uh, just talk to me about

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the specs real quick. When we talk about

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the most powerful, uh, I mean, I

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remember the Vanquish. I mean, what was

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that? Something like 135 uh, uh,

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horsepower. What are we talking about

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here uh, for the new Valon?

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>> Okay, so thanks for having us on the

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show. And the Veilen is more powerful

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than a Vanquish. It's 850 PS and 1,000

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Newton meters of torque. And I forget

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what those numbers are in imperial

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measurements, but a lot more than any

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car that we've done before. So, it's the

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fastest 12cylinder front engine car from

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us, but also from any other car company.

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It's the it's the world's fastest.

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>> Well, so give me a sense here, though.

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Um, I mean, why why did you feel the

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need to go from whatever that 835 PS up

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to the the 150 plus uh PS? I mean, it's

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it's notable, but did you need to do

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that?

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Um,

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>> it's that segment of the marketplace.

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So, the car is not all about the engine.

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The engine is absolutely the heart of

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the vehicle, but if you take the whole

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concept of the car, it uses our

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components from that aluminium space

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frame technology and then a full carbon

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fiber body. It's way lighter than any of

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our 12cylinder cars that we've ever

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built, apart from the Valkyrie hypercar,

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of course. uh and combined with this

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engine uh a GT motorsport gearbox, a

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different rear axle ratio, the whole

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driving experience is completely

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different to any road car that we offer.

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So, it really is a specialist car, the

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top of our range for collectors and

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connoisseurs. That's the whole point of

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the car. Well, let's talk about those

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collectors and connoisseurs. Only 150 of

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this. So, that by default makes it a uh

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a collector's item. Uh roughly uh $2

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million each. So uh definitely uh you

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have to be not only a connoisseur but

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also have deep pockets here. What is the

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goal uh of releasing a product like this

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overall for your business model uh with

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Aston Martin as it's a relatively new

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CEO?

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>> Uh it's it's absolutely essential for

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our future success. Um we have a core

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range of cars that we're very proud of.

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We go from an SUV to a mid-enine

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hypercar to three amazing front engine

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GTs. But we're one of the few brands in

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the world that can and have successfully

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in the past offer cars in the one to $3

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million range at at significant volumes

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and the contribution we get from those

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cars is a real boost to the overall

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performance of the business. So we now

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have about a,000 customers worldwide

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that spend more than a million dollars

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with us every year. And for those

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customers, we like to create every two

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years or so something extraordinary,

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very collectible, very special and at

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the leading edge of design, technology

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and our capabilities. And this is one

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such example.

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>> You know, it's funny. I I I thought V12s

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were were dying out here. I mean, uh,

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yeah, regulation,

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uh, electrification, you know, all the

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sort of push back there. And I know that

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this is obviously a a somewhat niche

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product here, but I I am curious as to

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whether this maybe is sort of a

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testament of the V12 maybe outliving uh

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all of those concerns and all of those

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forecasts about where it seemed like we

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were going a few couple years ago.

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>> You're right. I mean, the change in

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policies in many countries around the

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world in the last 24 [music] 36 months

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has been pretty dramatic. Uh we're now

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in a situation where all of our future

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planning indicates that we can continue

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to sell the 12cylinder versions of our

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cars through to 2035 in most countries

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and in most regions. Uh we will of

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course make them compliant with the next

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level of [music] emission standards that

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appear in 2728 calendar years. Uh but we

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have a clear road map for the next 9

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years to still be able to offer 12

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cylinder engines. And the reason we do

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it with this car is very clearly that

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for the the real collectors and the car

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enthusiasts of which this is the biggest

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collection in the world [music] at Quail

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and Pebble Beach, they just love this

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kind of powertrain. Uh it may be close

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to the end of the this era of automotive

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history and they want to make the most

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of [music] it and we help them to do so.

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>> Uh you're coming up on your uh 2-year

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anniversary uh as head of Aston Martin

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Laganda. I am curious uh about the sense

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of uh how much sort of the path back to

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profitability for this company runs

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through cars uh like uh the new Veilen

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uh versus say you know the core that we

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all tend to think about with regards to

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the DB12 etc advantage.

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>> Yeah. Um I think first of all we need to

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be more profitable with our core

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products. So you probably recognize that

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over the past year and a half or so, we

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made major strides to basically bring

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down the cost structure of the company

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so that we can be profitable [music] and

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cash generative at a much lower volume

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than we previously planned. Uh this

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isn't a retreat from growth. It's a

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different way of getting there. It's to

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create a solid foundation of a business

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with the core models to the Valhalla of

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which this year we'll probably sell 500

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cars at 1.4 for $1.5 million. These cars

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then really give us a a turbocharge, if

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you pardon the pun, uh to the financial

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performance of the company. So, in the

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second half of this year and certainly

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into next year, we should be in a

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position where we can demonstrate we've

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turned the corner. We can generate

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positive cash rather than burning cash.

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We can generate positive EBIT instead of

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negative EBIT. And we're on that path

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with a volume per year of about 6,000

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sales with a credible mix of these

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specials at the top end. And that's the

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basis for the new business model [music]

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at least for the next 3 years, four

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years as we transition to the next

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generation of cars. Yes, we've

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definitely seen the revenue up, the

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volume up. Obviously uh the loss is

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still there but uh as you sort of work

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your way back uh to uh cash positive. I

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am curious about how you view the

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valuation of the stock particularly

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given uh your one of your main

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competitors in this luxury space uh

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Ferrari trades at a luxury multiple uh

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certainly uh compared to where Aston has

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been trading which is let's just be

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blunt it kind of like a distressed uh

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car maker.

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>> Yeah. I mean there's no question that

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the the performance of the shares has

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been pretty dramatic over the past well

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four or five years actually um I think

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as [music] soon as we demonstrate that

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we can deliver consistently from a

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financial point of view the fundamentals

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are there we have restructured [music]

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the cost structure we have got the

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product portfolio that can generate

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credible contributions [music]

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uh and with that cost structure and

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those contributions we have a clear

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business plan and a roadmap [music] to

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get to profitability and a much stronger

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business model. That's been the work of

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most of my last two [music] years to get

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us a clearer strategy, a winning

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strategy that's not driven by achieving

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super high volumes, but instead getting

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a much more valuebased growth strategy

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rather than volume based. And that's

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been the the change over the past 18 24

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months. Talk to me though about the

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people you need to do that because as

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you were sort of trying to get cost

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under control you did cut uh uh several

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hundred jobs and then you're launching

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these ambitious products a product that

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is you know if not bespoke certainly

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very close to it uh and that requires a

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lot of human beings I mean it can't all

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be automated it can't all be done uh uh

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by machines there's a obviously a lot of

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thought a lot of design etc that goes

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into that so how do you maintain the

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craft and quality of a $2 million car

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say or even the more pedestrian you know

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three or400 $1,000 car while cutting

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back such a huge amount of your

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workforce.

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>> Yeah. Um it's the same conundrum that

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most businesses face in our situation.

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Uh but the good news is actually as you

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improve quality, you need less people.

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I'll give you a simple example and we've

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used these numbers regularly in the

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past. When I first joined a couple of

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years ago, about 25% of the cars that we

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built [music]

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came off the production line and then

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had to be reworked post production. Uh

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we've got that figure down to about 1%.

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Which means instead of spending extra

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hours at the end of production, the cars

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run straight through. They also then

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[music] run straight through to dealers

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and there's virtually no activity

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required in the dealer network. So in

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many [music] aspects of the business

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process, improving quality is a key to

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releasing workforce and people. It's not

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the only thing. Of course, losing people

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in any organization is not the strategy.

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It's not something that we want to do.

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But we had to become more efficient. We

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had to bring the cost structure down to

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meet the revenue and contribution

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profile that we could predict and rely

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upon over the next 2 3 4 years. And

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that's what we've done. Not the expense

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of quality. In fact, quite the opposite.

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So that hasn't hampered us at all. Quite

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the reverse.

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>> Do you think you're going to need to

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raise more capital to go back to capital

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markets

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in a minute?

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>> No. I think the last financing that we

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did a few weeks ago has now given us

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more flexibility than we have before.

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Sufficient flexibility to allow us to

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deliver on this new business plan and

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deliver both the current products and

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all of the innovations that we have in

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derivatives. these tactical uh products

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like the S versions, but also get us

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ready to deliver the next generation of

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cars with brand new technologies uh

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compliant engines for the next level of

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emission standards etc etc and of course

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the newest level of electronic

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architectures, connectivity, autonomous

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capability where necessary. So no, we're

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we're well now set up to deliver on the

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the strategic plan that we agreed with

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the shareholders and we're where all

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systems go. All right, Adrian. Uh, I'll

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let you get back to it. Obviously, very

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busy behind you and uh uh I would love

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to hear how that car sounds one day.

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Adrien Hallmark, the CEO of Aston

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Martin, unveiling uh the most powerful

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uh front engine supercar out there uh at

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the Quail uh at the Peninsula in Carmel,

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Aston Martin CEO Amedeo Felisa discussed the launch of the new V12-powered Valon, the most powerful front-engine car in the company's 113-year history. The interview covers the company's strategic move toward value-based growth over volume-based production, the role of exclusive collector cars in restoring profitability, and the company's commitment to continuing V12 engines through 2035 despite industry shifts toward electrification.

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