Aston Martin CEO Adrian Hallmark Talks New Supercar | Bloomberg Talks
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>> Luxury sports car manufacturer Aston
Martin revving up its newest vehicle,
the Aston Market Martin Valon from its
V12 series. The company touting it as
the most powerful front engine Aston
Martin in its 113-year history. And it's
limiting production well to just 150
cars worldwide. Joining us right now is
the chief executive officer of Aston
Martin, Adrien Hallmark. Adrian, uh,
great to have you here. Uh, I I mean, I
am curious. Uh, just talk to me about
the specs real quick. When we talk about
the most powerful, uh, I mean, I
remember the Vanquish. I mean, what was
that? Something like 135 uh, uh,
horsepower. What are we talking about
here uh, for the new Valon?
>> Okay, so thanks for having us on the
show. And the Veilen is more powerful
than a Vanquish. It's 850 PS and 1,000
Newton meters of torque. And I forget
what those numbers are in imperial
measurements, but a lot more than any
car that we've done before. So, it's the
fastest 12cylinder front engine car from
us, but also from any other car company.
It's the it's the world's fastest.
>> Well, so give me a sense here, though.
Um, I mean, why why did you feel the
need to go from whatever that 835 PS up
to the the 150 plus uh PS? I mean, it's
it's notable, but did you need to do
that?
Um,
>> it's that segment of the marketplace.
So, the car is not all about the engine.
The engine is absolutely the heart of
the vehicle, but if you take the whole
concept of the car, it uses our
components from that aluminium space
frame technology and then a full carbon
fiber body. It's way lighter than any of
our 12cylinder cars that we've ever
built, apart from the Valkyrie hypercar,
of course. uh and combined with this
engine uh a GT motorsport gearbox, a
different rear axle ratio, the whole
driving experience is completely
different to any road car that we offer.
So, it really is a specialist car, the
top of our range for collectors and
connoisseurs. That's the whole point of
the car. Well, let's talk about those
collectors and connoisseurs. Only 150 of
this. So, that by default makes it a uh
a collector's item. Uh roughly uh $2
million each. So uh definitely uh you
have to be not only a connoisseur but
also have deep pockets here. What is the
goal uh of releasing a product like this
overall for your business model uh with
Aston Martin as it's a relatively new
CEO?
>> Uh it's it's absolutely essential for
our future success. Um we have a core
range of cars that we're very proud of.
We go from an SUV to a mid-enine
hypercar to three amazing front engine
GTs. But we're one of the few brands in
the world that can and have successfully
in the past offer cars in the one to $3
million range at at significant volumes
and the contribution we get from those
cars is a real boost to the overall
performance of the business. So we now
have about a,000 customers worldwide
that spend more than a million dollars
with us every year. And for those
customers, we like to create every two
years or so something extraordinary,
very collectible, very special and at
the leading edge of design, technology
and our capabilities. And this is one
such example.
>> You know, it's funny. I I I thought V12s
were were dying out here. I mean, uh,
yeah, regulation,
uh, electrification, you know, all the
sort of push back there. And I know that
this is obviously a a somewhat niche
product here, but I I am curious as to
whether this maybe is sort of a
testament of the V12 maybe outliving uh
all of those concerns and all of those
forecasts about where it seemed like we
were going a few couple years ago.
>> You're right. I mean, the change in
policies in many countries around the
world in the last 24 [music] 36 months
has been pretty dramatic. Uh we're now
in a situation where all of our future
planning indicates that we can continue
to sell the 12cylinder versions of our
cars through to 2035 in most countries
and in most regions. Uh we will of
course make them compliant with the next
level of [music] emission standards that
appear in 2728 calendar years. Uh but we
have a clear road map for the next 9
years to still be able to offer 12
cylinder engines. And the reason we do
it with this car is very clearly that
for the the real collectors and the car
enthusiasts of which this is the biggest
collection in the world [music] at Quail
and Pebble Beach, they just love this
kind of powertrain. Uh it may be close
to the end of the this era of automotive
history and they want to make the most
of [music] it and we help them to do so.
>> Uh you're coming up on your uh 2-year
anniversary uh as head of Aston Martin
Laganda. I am curious uh about the sense
of uh how much sort of the path back to
profitability for this company runs
through cars uh like uh the new Veilen
uh versus say you know the core that we
all tend to think about with regards to
the DB12 etc advantage.
>> Yeah. Um I think first of all we need to
be more profitable with our core
products. So you probably recognize that
over the past year and a half or so, we
made major strides to basically bring
down the cost structure of the company
so that we can be profitable [music] and
cash generative at a much lower volume
than we previously planned. Uh this
isn't a retreat from growth. It's a
different way of getting there. It's to
create a solid foundation of a business
with the core models to the Valhalla of
which this year we'll probably sell 500
cars at 1.4 for $1.5 million. These cars
then really give us a a turbocharge, if
you pardon the pun, uh to the financial
performance of the company. So, in the
second half of this year and certainly
into next year, we should be in a
position where we can demonstrate we've
turned the corner. We can generate
positive cash rather than burning cash.
We can generate positive EBIT instead of
negative EBIT. And we're on that path
with a volume per year of about 6,000
sales with a credible mix of these
specials at the top end. And that's the
basis for the new business model [music]
at least for the next 3 years, four
years as we transition to the next
generation of cars. Yes, we've
definitely seen the revenue up, the
volume up. Obviously uh the loss is
still there but uh as you sort of work
your way back uh to uh cash positive. I
am curious about how you view the
valuation of the stock particularly
given uh your one of your main
competitors in this luxury space uh
Ferrari trades at a luxury multiple uh
certainly uh compared to where Aston has
been trading which is let's just be
blunt it kind of like a distressed uh
car maker.
>> Yeah. I mean there's no question that
the the performance of the shares has
been pretty dramatic over the past well
four or five years actually um I think
as [music] soon as we demonstrate that
we can deliver consistently from a
financial point of view the fundamentals
are there we have restructured [music]
the cost structure we have got the
product portfolio that can generate
credible contributions [music]
uh and with that cost structure and
those contributions we have a clear
business plan and a roadmap [music] to
get to profitability and a much stronger
business model. That's been the work of
most of my last two [music] years to get
us a clearer strategy, a winning
strategy that's not driven by achieving
super high volumes, but instead getting
a much more valuebased growth strategy
rather than volume based. And that's
been the the change over the past 18 24
months. Talk to me though about the
people you need to do that because as
you were sort of trying to get cost
under control you did cut uh uh several
hundred jobs and then you're launching
these ambitious products a product that
is you know if not bespoke certainly
very close to it uh and that requires a
lot of human beings I mean it can't all
be automated it can't all be done uh uh
by machines there's a obviously a lot of
thought a lot of design etc that goes
into that so how do you maintain the
craft and quality of a $2 million car
say or even the more pedestrian you know
three or400 $1,000 car while cutting
back such a huge amount of your
workforce.
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>> Yeah. Um it's the same conundrum that
most businesses face in our situation.
Uh but the good news is actually as you
improve quality, you need less people.
I'll give you a simple example and we've
used these numbers regularly in the
past. When I first joined a couple of
years ago, about 25% of the cars that we
built [music]
came off the production line and then
had to be reworked post production. Uh
we've got that figure down to about 1%.
Which means instead of spending extra
hours at the end of production, the cars
run straight through. They also then
[music] run straight through to dealers
and there's virtually no activity
required in the dealer network. So in
many [music] aspects of the business
process, improving quality is a key to
releasing workforce and people. It's not
the only thing. Of course, losing people
in any organization is not the strategy.
It's not something that we want to do.
But we had to become more efficient. We
had to bring the cost structure down to
meet the revenue and contribution
profile that we could predict and rely
upon over the next 2 3 4 years. And
that's what we've done. Not the expense
of quality. In fact, quite the opposite.
So that hasn't hampered us at all. Quite
the reverse.
>> Do you think you're going to need to
raise more capital to go back to capital
markets
in a minute?
>> No. I think the last financing that we
did a few weeks ago has now given us
more flexibility than we have before.
Sufficient flexibility to allow us to
deliver on this new business plan and
deliver both the current products and
all of the innovations that we have in
derivatives. these tactical uh products
like the S versions, but also get us
ready to deliver the next generation of
cars with brand new technologies uh
compliant engines for the next level of
emission standards etc etc and of course
the newest level of electronic
architectures, connectivity, autonomous
capability where necessary. So no, we're
we're well now set up to deliver on the
the strategic plan that we agreed with
the shareholders and we're where all
systems go. All right, Adrian. Uh, I'll
let you get back to it. Obviously, very
busy behind you and uh uh I would love
to hear how that car sounds one day.
Adrien Hallmark, the CEO of Aston
Martin, unveiling uh the most powerful
uh front engine supercar out there uh at
the Quail uh at the Peninsula in Carmel,
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Aston Martin CEO Amedeo Felisa discussed the launch of the new V12-powered Valon, the most powerful front-engine car in the company's 113-year history. The interview covers the company's strategic move toward value-based growth over volume-based production, the role of exclusive collector cars in restoring profitability, and the company's commitment to continuing V12 engines through 2035 despite industry shifts toward electrification.
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