I'm trying not to cry. I'm just like,

um, I hate suffering. I've suffered

myself and so I hate to see anybody

suffer. And so, um, this is my mission.

This is what I'm made for. And, um, I'm

just one guy. I can't do everything, but

I can do a lot.

Um, I always try to help people say,

"How can you turn your worst day into

your best day?"

>> Please help me welcome to the stage,

Tony Robbins.

He's the nation's number one life and

business strategist.

>> He's worked with royalty, elite

athletes, Oscar winners, scientists, and

everyone in between

>> to overcome their limitations and

accelerate change.

>> Can you take us back to the environment

that shaped you into the man that you

are?

>> So, I grew up in a tough environment. I

had four different fathers. My mom, she

drank alcohol and took prescription

drugs. We had no money, no food. And

then the thing that changed my whole

life was a knock on the door on

Thanksgiving. There was this tall guy

standing there with two bags of

groceries and an uncooked frozen turkey

in a pan. And my dad saw this man. He

said, "We don't take charity." And he

went and slammed the door on the guy.

But it became a very useful and

distinction for me about how he and I

process that day differently because

there's three decisions you make every

moment of your life. And the real

problem is the story you have. For

example, that day my dad's focus was the

fact he not fed his family and he was

worthless. However, I took that as

strangers care. And so the story is the

belief you've told yourself over and

over because belief is the invisible

force that controls everything in your

life. And then there's the third

decision. What am I going to do? And so

what I decided to do is someday I'm

going to do this for others and end

suffering where I can. And so I'm going

to show you how to get clear what you

really want. Figure out what's been

stopping you. Put the plan in place and

teach you the most important thing

that's made me successful.

>> And I don't think people fully realize

the significance of how many of the most

influential people on planet Earth you

have worked with and continue to work

with. What is the pattern that you

noticed in those people?

>> So, I found four things with them. And

the first thing is,

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Tony. I was I was shocked. It was so

surprising to me that you had the

childhood you had based on the outcomes

that you've accomplished in your life.

And as someone that has followed you for

a very long time, I imagine that there's

many other people that have followed you

for a very long time that have no idea

about the early context. For those

people,

>> can you take us back to the environment

that shaped you into the man that you

are?

>> Well, I think, you know, I grew up I

grew up in a tough environment. I had um

four different fathers. My mom was a

very intense and passionate woman. Uh we

never had any money. We're very very

poor. Uh my mom was probably the most

important influence in my life by far.

Um very loving woman but a very stressed

woman and under that stress she drank

alcohol and took prescription drugs and

when she did that she became very

violent. So I took the brunt of that and

then figured out how to manage her

emotions basically. Uh it's where all my

beginning training really happened and

yet at the same time she was loving it.

She pushed me. She believed in me. Uh

she wanted me to be something. So she

influenced my life in so many beautiful

ways. And then probably what changed my

life the most though is my forefather

especially made it clear no one gives a

damn about anybody else. We lived in a

um what I thought was an upper class uh

community or city but we were on the

other side of the tracks. It was lower

middle class and we were you know

literally right by the railroad tracks

where the worst of the worst live so to

speak. And so we're kind of looked down

on. And so it really looked like nobody

cares. And then the thing that changed

my whole life a single event was a knock

on the door on Thanksgiving. We had no

money, no food. When I say no food, we

had crackers and peanut butter, but not

a Thanksgiving dinner, right? And uh my

dad has been mom are screaming each

other through a door and my dad had lost

his job. You get the knock of the door

and I go open the door and there's this

tall guy standing there with two bags of

groceries, one in each hand, and at his

feet he had an uncooked frozen turkey in

in a pan, you know. And he said, "Is

your father here?" And I was like, "Just

one moment." You know, and I was like,

it was Christmas morning. So, I go to my

dad and I go, "Hey, Dad, there's someone

at the door for you." And he goes, "Who

is it?" And I said, "I don't know. It's

for you." He goes, "Well, you answered."

I said, "I already did. It's for you."

So, he goes over there and I'm waiting

like with such excitement for him to

open the door. And he saw this man and

he was not happy. He looked at this man

before the guy say a word and he said,

"We don't take charity." And he went and

slammed the door on the guy. But the man

had leaned in because of the groceries

and it hit his shoulder and it bounced

off, which made my dad even matter. And

they said, "Sir, sir," he said,

"Somebody knows you're having a tough

time. Everyone has tough times. They

want you to have this food for your

family for Thanksgiving." He goes, "I'm

just the delivery guy." And my father

said, "We don't take charity." And he

pushed the door again. But this time,

because the guy's leaning, his foot now

has stepped in. It hit his foot and

bounced off. And then now my dad's

getting more fired up. And I'm standing

looking at this whole thing, and it's

like a car crash happening. And the guy

said something to my dad. I thought my

dad was going to punch him in the face.

He didn't say it meanly. He said, "Sir,"

he said, he saw me. He said, "Don't make

your family, you know, suffer because of

your ego."

And I can still see it like yesterday.

My dad's veins on both sides of his neck

were just pumping and he was red as can

be. And then he just dropped his

shoulders. He took the groceries. He

slammed it on the table and he slammed

the door. And he never even said thank

you. It took me maybe a decade to

eventually figure it out. And it became

a very useful and distinction for me

about how he and I process that day

differently because I believe there's

three decisions you make every moment of

your life. You're making them right now

if you're listening to me and so is your

audience. The first one is what are you

going to focus on? You're going to be

focused on what happened yesterday, what

you're going to have for lunch, what I'm

saying, how it relates to you. There are

millions of things you can focus on. But

you don't experience life. You

experience the life you focus on. And

most of us are distortion deletion

creatures. Our brains don't take it all

in consciously. it's too much. So our

brains delete things. We distort things.

We generalize things so we can make it

through our lives. And so if you don't

control your focus, you react. And that

day, my dad's focus was the fact he not

fed his family. It wasn't hard to figure

out. He said it over and over again

after after he slammed the door. And my

focus was, "Wow, there's food. What a

concept." You know, I was excited. But

the second decision you make every

moment, the minute you focus on

something, your brain has to figure out,

what does this mean? Is this the end or

the beginning? Is this person dissing

me? Is they are they challenging me? Are

they coaching me? Are they loving me?

And whatever meaning you give, it

produces emotion. And out of that

emotion, you make the third decision.

What am I going to do? And that day, I

know the meaning my dad did. It wasn't

just that he didn't feed his family.

It's that he was worthless. You know, I

can't even feed my family. And he

muttered all this stuff continuously.

But I I took that as stranger's care. It

completely violated everything I had

experienced in my life up until that

point. And my brain was like, if a

stranger doesn't even want credit for

this and they fed my family on

Thanksgiving,

I got to care about strangers. And so

what I decided to do is someday I'm

going to I'm going to do this for

others. And so when I was 17, I went out

and I uh I didn't have a lot of money,

but was doing okay. And I went to a

grocery store and I told the manager

what happened in my life and I said, "I

want to feed two families. Help me out.

Give me a discount." And he gave me 10%

off. And I thought, "Cheep bastard." But

I took it. I had the most enjoyable

shopping. I took two shopping carts and

just filled it up with two families. And

then I um I called this church and I

said, "Who do you know that needs help

but won't ask for it? Won't come for

it." And they gave me two families

names. And so I wrote a little note. I

just put this is a gift from a friend.

Everyone has tough times. I hope you

have a beautiful Thanksgiving and

someday if you can pay this forward. I

didn't use the word pay it forward. I

said do this for someone else. But now

you look at us pay it forward. and I put

love a friend. And then I I realized I

was going to the bario area of the city

and I was like maybe they don't speak

English. So I had a friend of mine write

in Spanish on the back. So I figured I

could flip it over. And I the first

house I went to, it's a little tiny

place. I knock on the door and this

woman about this tall asmatic woman sees

me and sees the food and screams and

then grabs my head and pulls it down,

starts kissing me on the cheek and said,

"No, no, no. Delivery boy, delivery

boy." And she and I and I pull out the

note and I flipped it over in Spanish

and she read it and then she started to

cry and she goes and she started giving

me kissing. I said, "No, deliver." She

goes, "No, gift of God. Gift of God."

And I'm trying not to cry, you know,

just like um I feel like it was

yesterday still. And so, um I the door

opened. It's a tiny little place size of

your kitchen here or reminder of your

kitchen. And um and I I was so excited

to start food down. All a sudden I heard

screams and then next thing I know I'm

hit by one and by another four boys. And

one hit one leg, one hit the other. They

saw the food they went crazy. Um and I

said, "Come help me." You had other

stuff in the van. And when they saw the

pumpkin pie, it was really over, you

know, and we bought all this food in and

it was time to go. And um the father had

left them. I found out later 4 days

before Thanksgiving with no money and no

food. And I'm anyway I'm looking through

the mirror and I just started crying

uncontrollably and I'm like why am I

crying so bad? This is such a beautiful

moment. And I just realized you know my

worst day of my life was really my best

day. That the day that was the most

painful to me cuz that father is the one

who he adopted me. I carry his name. um

that I wouldn't be there that day. I'm a

good human being, but you know, would I

work as hard as I worked to feed other

people? I mean, I'm next year I did

four, then eight, then 12, then I had a

little company. I got my employees

involved. Then I got to a million

people, two million people. And then

about 12 years ago, I decided I want to

throw I want to feed a billion meals

here in the United States in 10 years.

And so, it's grown and grown and grown,

all from not being fed. And so, I I I

see it as a blessing. I see. I always

try to help people say, "How could you

turn your worst day into your best day?"

That's when life is really magical.

>> How many years has it been since you met

that young mother with her four

children?

>> I was 17. I'm going to be 66.

>> Wow. 50 years.

>> Yeah.

>> And it still brings you to tears to

recount that.

>> It really does.

>> Why? Why is that?

>> Um I have a I hate suffering. I've

suffered myself and so I hate to see

anybody suffer. And so I'm unbelievably

driven to end suffering where I can to

help anyone do that. Whether it be

hunger or emotional hunger or depression

or sadness or relationship or I just I

don't know what it is. I just I love

human beings. I hate suffering and I

hate and I love to see when somebody

awakens to who they are. And we all are

so much more than we ever you know

perceive oursel to be. But many times

you don't discover that until you have

to. I like to try and show people how to

do it. So I have to wait till life hits

them. you know, anything you can

imagine. We're all going to go through

extreme stress in our lives, but how do

you do stress or distress? Use you. And

so, my whole thing is help people show

them how to use stress. Cuz I don't care

how good a person you are. I don't care

how spiritual or religious you are. I

don't care how smart you are, how rich

you think you are. Every human being is

going to go through extreme stress

multiple times in their life. And the

real question is, what are you gonna do

with it? And the first thing is, if

you're going through hell, keep going.

But if you keep going, you discover

number one how strong you really are.

Cuz if you don't give up, you'll

discover who you are. The second thing

you find out is who your real friends

are. Cuz when things aren't so great,

you get to see who those are. And then

third, it almost gives you like an

inoculation to future stress. Cuz like I

had a friend that was shot down in

Vietnam and was in a prison there for

seven years in solitary confinement. And

um Captain Coffee is his name. And I

remember I met him later in life and he

was going through this tough thing with

the IRS and it was so unfair. It took

him three years. He got his money back.

But I said, "Doesn't that drive you

crazy?" He goes, "After being with the

North Vietnamese," he goes, "You know,

what could the IRS do to me?" You know,

so I think those pieces are there. But

everyone gets called on the journey.

Most people try to resist it, but that

journey, that's what the call is. It's a

call to grow. So I'm I'm big on change

your story, change your life. And I'm

big on understanding the narrative of

where you are in the story of your life.

Because if you understand where you are,

it gives context. It gives meaning and

it doesn't make you feel overwhelmed.

>> Had your mother not suffered in such a

way, do you think this would be so

important to you had you not observed

that suffering?

>> Yeah. No, I I I I've often said I'm like

I said earlier, I think I'm I'm a good

human being. I think I still to help

people, but would I providing 62 billion

meals and working around the clock on

top of, you know, my 114 companies and

all that? No, I don't think I would. And

that hunger comes very often from pain.

But pain's not enough to keep you going.

Pain only goes so far. You've got to

find something that it's like I I tell

people there's two types of motivation,

right? There's push motivation. You

know, you're making something happen.

And I have enormous willpower. I'm sure

you do. Most of the people we probably

interact with have great willpower,

right?

>> But there's still a limit to it. But

there's no limit to pole motivation.

Pole is there's something so magnificent

you want to serve something that you

care about more than yourself. That's

where all the energy in life comes from.

You know what's in your heart and your

soul. What wakes you up in the morning

and makes you go. And I think if I

hadn't had the pain, I don't think I

would have been sensitized. But I also

if I hadn't felt the pleasure of serving

and seeing impact on such a large scale,

then you know, you'd be limited because

you listen, meeting your own needs is

not that hard. Like I my biggest beef

with right now is since co is this whole

self-care revolution we've got. I mean,

you got to take care of yourself. Don't

get me wrong. I take care of myself. And

you know, you get weaker and weaker the

more you focus on yourself. The human

mind is always going to figure out

something that isn't good enough. But

when you're serving, you're not there.

Like your mind's not there. You're with

the people. You're with what you're

doing. And it's the escape from the

mind's reductionism. And so I really

believe that people the secret to life

is to find something you care about more

than yourself that gives you that pull

motivation. And then you're never going

to lack for energy. You're never going

to lack for passion. You're never going

to lack for anything. And you're going

to have a life that's extremely

meaningful. It's not happy every moment

there. They're not meant to be. If you

smile, have you ever smiled so much face

hurt?

>> You know, we need variety. So you But

meaning that's something you can find no

matter what.

>> I asked you before we started recording

um a question I almost never ask any of

my guests, which is what is the thing

that we should be talking about the

most? and you told me, you know, shortly

after um what your answer was, but you

know, even shortly after that, you then

went on to talk to me about how you're

driven to end suffering. Now, if I

compare these two answers, the answer

you gave me to the question I asked

about what's the most important thing

for us to be talking about and your

second point about your desire to end

suffering, there's probably some kind of

overlap.

>> There is. Yeah. So, if I were to ask you

just for because we weren't recording

then, what you think maybe the most

consequential thing we should be talking

about right now is as it relates to

suffering and everything that's going on

in society, what would that answer be?

>> I think it's uh AI, but it's not just

AI, it's nanotechnology, it's how

technology, the rapid change in

technology and if you don't believe it's

going to destroy humanity and it's going

to liberate us from a lot of labor, if

you believe that, the ones that promote

that concept. If that does happen and we

displace this many jobs in this short a

period of time, jobs are not just money.

Jobs are meaning. It's not the only form

of meaning, but it's meaning. So, it's

like you talk about, well, we'll do give

people UBI and okay, I think you might

have to because the changes are going to

happen so rapidly. Like I said, you

know, farming, 80% of us were farmers

150 years ago. Now, it's 3%. We feed the

world. That's a long transition. Uh, I

think I mentioned to you off the air

here, I was visiting with President

Obama 10 years ago and towards the end

of his term there and I was saying,

"Hey, I just got to talk to you. You

know, you inherited a pretty tough

economy from the original 2008 explosion

breakdown. We lost 8 million jobs." So,

I said, "There's technology coming right

now that we can predict is going to

displace more than those 8 million

jobs." And I talked to him at that time

just about I said, "Just take one like

self-driving cars." We were just

starting to come out. I said, "In the

next 10, 12, 13, 14 years, they're going

to become ubiquitous." And I said,

"There's 8 million truck drivers, Uber

drivers, and taxi drivers. And are you

doing anything to retool them?" I said,

"Because

>> just in the US,

>> just in the US." I said, "Because if you

don't, think about this. If I'm a

business person and I can hire a person

to drive a truck only eight hours a day,

I have to pay for the healthcare, which

gets more expensive every year. Um,

they're going to [ __ ] at me about

things. And I can buy a truck that can

drive 24 hours a day. My insurance is

cheaper because it doesn't make mistakes

and I can depreciate the asset. Am I

going to hire anybody? I said, so those

jobs going to go that's 8 million.

That's one sector. We could look at

pharma. There's so many industries

affected. So I said, we've got to retool

those people now where there's 10 years

to gear them up because these are not

people that are going to do it on their

own and they're going to be shocked. The

shock to their system. The loss of

dignity of of being in control agency of

their own life, of their own job, of

their own direction is huge. And if you

go back to like the Ludites, you know,

you're from the UK, right? You must know

your history there. 1800s, you know,

Merkantile, they come up with these

machines and how did people react? And

by the way, this story is the same

across history. We have a radical change

like this. All these people are

displaced and what did they do? They

rioted. They took hammers and they

destroyed those machines. They

threatened to kill the owners of those

companies and some were shot and killed.

They blew up and firebomb places. And

what did the UK uh you know do about

this? They passed a law in the first

year of this of these ludites saying you

destroy machine, it's capital

punishment. They hung people because

they couldn't have them destroy the

growth of the of the economy, right? And

guess what? 15 years later, the same

thing happened again with the thrashers.

thrasher machines that were used for

wheat and they lost all the jobs and the

people and the government overreacted.

I'm not trying to be overly dramatic,

but if anything this transition is just

going to be smooth by us doing nothing,

they're wrong. And the problem is, as I

mentioned to you before, I think the

leverage is not in favor of us taking

care of society. The leverage is the

carrot and the stick. The carrot is I

can make a trillion dollars if I have

the right LLM or, you know, if I get to

artificial general intelligence. Who

knows? And if we don't do it, China's

going to do it. That's the stick. And

then they're going to run the world. So

there's no focus on safety virtually, as

you well know. And there's certainly no

focus on what's happening with these

jobs. Right now, high school students

are getting jobs more than college

students for the first time in 50 years,

right? You see the displacement. You

know, you got friends just like I do.

Mark Benoff's one of my dear friends.

They let go of like what was it? I think

it was was it 5,000 customer service

agents and now it's done with AI now.

Now he wants to elevate them to other

jobs. So we have to look at what this

means to our society. We have to

anticipate what this means and we've got

to retool not just the jobs but the

psychology because people talk about a

post-work world. You hear people talk

about this all the time. Elon, people

like that. They labor is not like

electricity. You just take it for

granted. It's so cheap. It's so easy.

Well, if that's true, and he's talking 3

to 5 years, and a lot of people say

Elon's early, he usually is uh in his

predictions, but Ray Kerszwell is a good

friend of mine. He's the most accurate

predictor of technology in history. And

he's been saying 2029 for almost 20

years is when we have artificial general

intelligence. If you go to Hinton, I

think you've interviewed Hinton, haven't

you? Right. So, he's the longest. He's

saying 2030 to 2040. He's given us a

little more room. In the next 3 to 10

years, this is going to happen. How are

we prepared for this?

And so this is the questions I'm trying

to bring up to people that have

influence to say if you're in business,

you got to take a look at this. If

you're in government, you got to take a

look at this. And so I I just got um

they haven't announced yet, but I just

got selected to be on the federal

advisory committee for the president and

for the health and human services and

I'm on the mental health side and I'm

hoping to use that position to bring

more of government's focus into this

category as well because it's it's got

to be addressed

>> when we recite these. And that's by the

way the answer to your question is and

that's suffering.

>> That's suffering at the highest level.

Not just financial suffering. That's

emotional suffering. That's loss of

identity suffering. If I am a coder, I

am a truck driver and I lose who I am.

Now I just want to say one last thing.

We've already been in a postwork world

because I one person said to me

recently, well, for 4,000 years we tied

our identity to our work. I said, no,

Americans all go, what do you do? Not

everybody in the world does that. And

for 4,000 years, our connection post

before the agricultural revolution was

really what tribe we're connected to.

And our sense of significance was maybe

our courage in battle, not our financial

component. Or maybe it was our

creativity, our poetry, our storytelling

capacity, or maybe it was our

generosity. Um maybe it was our wisdom.

So we can find other things to have

meaning besides a job. But if you don't

take a culture that's been conditioned

for 200 years to think a certain way,

we're going to have a lot of pain. And I

would like to see us have less of that

if we could. And I'm only one person,

but I'll do my best to help people make

that transition.

>> It's funny because when we think about

those historical examples of transition,

I for many reasons think this is even

more extreme.

>> I agree.

>> Because you have intelligence and you

have you've basically disrupted both the

muscles and the mind. But you know if

the reason it's going to explode even

faster is because we're moving from LLM

to now actually studying visually what's

happening in the real world. And when

robots do that then the game changes

their tempo of learning. And just think

about this. You and I are having a

conversation. I picked up one of your

books here and I'm reading through your

book. So I want to get a feel for who

you are and everything else before I

came here. I've seen some of your videos

but and I know like I really enjoyed it.

But I had to go get that. I had to take

a couple hours to dig through that. You

and I have a conversation. If either one

of us learn something we're a machine.

every machine knows it instantly. You

push one button and they have all of

that knowledge. There's none of this

word transfer. It's just it's now. So,

people don't realize what this really

means. And when you're learning from the

real world, not just LLMs, right now,

you and I are our brains are predictive

devices. They're predicting what is

going to happen next to the best of our

ability. And we're trying to close that

gap as much as we can or we get jolted.

Well, think how predictively that's

going to do to people's heads when all

of a sudden their labor is not needed.

>> And it's no longer blue collar labor,

which is what people thought it would

be. It's white collar labor. I mean,

like my financial I have a lot of I have

uh I own 95 different private equity

firms. I have own the firms, not the

actual funds, right? So, I get to do and

20 of them and I got pieces of all of

them. So, they're biggest in the world.

And so, I get to take a look at some of

the things that are happening so fast.

And I look at all those jobs and I see

people in those industries and quantum

is taking it took over maybe five years

ago. I've seen the shrink in these

offices from staffs the guys who are

making 5 million $10 million a year that

are now unemployed. Right? It's not just

the blue collar worker. It's everyone.

So you're right. This has never happened

before in history. And what's being done

about it?

>> More money's been put into it to

accelerate it.

>> The carrot and stick, the trillionaire

and China, those two pieces are driving

it all. And a few people are trying to

hammer like Hinton and a few other

people. We got to work on safety here so

it doesn't eliminate the human race. And

I'm not a reactionary person, but you

know of what is it 25 30% of them people

that work in AI say that they think it

could potentially do that. I mean like

you could use electricity to kill people

or light up a city. So all technology is

that challenge. But this is a different

technology. This is a technology that

keeps learning can replicate itself.

Right now they don't even know how some

of this actually works. They don't know

how the AI is actually working. It's

teaching itself. These AIs now have

their own language. I'm sure you know

they're talking no longer in English to

each other. And you know, I'm sure

you've seen the studies, right, where

they give them information on in the

email and then they say they're going to

shut shut off the AI and it blackmails

them by giving them they g information

about somebody having an affair and it

blackmails them. I mean, it lies. So,

we're we're living in a crazy world

where the opportunity is greater than

any time in his history for us to be

creators. We were created and we're

meant to create and we've got tools to

create like never before. But we we're

going to have to make sure that as we're

doing that, we've got some parameters

around safety and some parameters about

what does it do to society. And I don't

have the perfect answers for it. But I

do know one thing, retooling is the

answer. And I don't believe most people

will be replaced by an AI. They'll be

replaced by somebody who knows how to

use AI.

>> Yeah. One of the things you said there

really blew my mind when I watched a

video from Boston Dynamics this week

where they the guy explained how these

robots are going to learn. And he goes

there's two ways. One way is we're going

to get our factory workers to wear a

suit and every time the factory worker

does something the the all the robots

are going to learn that thing. And the

other thing is he said is if one of our

robots learns something whether it's how

to pick up a book or how to make an

omelette every robot learns it

instantaneously. And my mind was like

wow that is I personally

don't know where this leaves us. to well

neither do I but there are certain

things you know it's leading us towards

you know it's going to lead us to a

great deal of violence because there are

going to be people like have always

happened with technology displaces them

only this is going to be a global event

across multiple areas and not just

drivers of Ubers and truck drivers if we

don't get our act together and have a

plan there's going to be violence for

some period of time there'll be there's

that grief period of loss and that

people go through when something jars

them that much and some people don't

return from that grief. And some people

are going to take this technology and

they're going to go off. It's already

happening now even without AI. There are

more males at home 25 to 35 living at

home with their family not working than

any time in human history including the

depression. Right? There are I think

it's 25% or I think it was 30% I forgot

the number. I just saw it recently of

young men have never approached a woman

to ask her out for a date. They play

video games all day long. their mom does

their laundry and they order Uber Eats.

This is a mass number of people. That's

just the technology of getting somebody

gamified. Imagine with AI. So, some

people are going to go live there and

some people are going to go the Star

Trek route and say, "I'm going to figure

out what makes human existence be here."

But it's not hard to figure out. The

majority are not going to go the Star

Trek route. And so, we've got to have a

bridge because of the time compression.

If this was a hundred years to do it, we

could adjust. There will be more jobs.

There'll be new jobs. There'll be new

time. But it's the time frame that I'm

most concerned about. So when you ask me

what I'm concerned about, that's what

I'm concerned about because it creates

suffering. And it's something that we

can predict is going to create

suffering. And yet I see very few people

in positions of influence and power

doing much about it.

>> So on an individual level, if you were

an 18-year-old Tony Robbins, what would

you be doing at this moment? What would

you be focusing on work-wise? How would

you be designing your life for such a

world?

>> I have five kids and five grandkids,

right? So, I have a 52-year-old daughter

and I have a thanks to CO a 4-year-old

daughter. So, CO was good to me. I was

home. So, um I look at my my especially

my grandkids and my daughter and I say

they're entering a world that none of us

have known before. And so, how do I arm

them for it? And the answer is a couple

of things. Number one, I have to teach

them not to do what most people in the

world do. Most people you talk to of any

even quote successful people, whatever

that means, they're stressed all the

time. Stress. I'm so stressed. You hear

people talk about stress all the time.

It's like they argue about who's more

stressed. And I I look at that and go,

why are they stressed? And the answer is

because they're managing their life.

We're not made to manage circumstances.

We're made to create. We were created by

something. Call it your creator. Call it

the universe. Call it God. Whatever you

want to call it. And we were made to

create. And when we create, we're alive.

When we just try to maintain or manage

or hold on to something, if we're just

caught up in making a living instead of

designing a life, life is a [ __ ] And

that's why so many people have so many

challenges. So, I'm teaching my kids to

be creators and I teach them the second

piece, the most important thing I

believe that's made me successful. And

anyone I've ever interviewed, you

interviewed a million people. You see if

you agree or disagree with me. The three

most important skills in life now are

the ones that allow you to learn more

rapidly. If you learn rapidly, you can

win no matter what happens with the

technology. And what are those three

skills? Number one, the skill of pattern

recognition.

When you can recognize patterns, you

eliminate fear. Fear comes from this has

never happened before. I don't know what

this is. Chaos. Like I hear people all

the time talk about how we've never been

this place politically where here in

America where the most we're going to

have a civil war. The And they don't do

any history whatsoever. I I have these

two placards that I have because back

then they didn't have ads, right? They

had placards and one is from Thomas

Jefferson talking about Adams and one of

Adams about Jefferson and they said

stuff that make Republicans and

Democrats look like they're nice to each

other. I mean it's just unbelievable the

stuff they said. This is a cycle. And so

when you recognize a pattern it gives

you power, potential power at least. The

first power is you're not not afraid

anymore. You go now this is not

something that's never happened. This is

not something that's going to I I can

see this. I can see how this has been

dealt with. What took us from living in

fear, from being hunter gatherers or

trying to survive every day, didn't know

if we're going to survive every day to

being able to stay in one place?

What pattern recognition?

>> I was going to say the seasons, but

>> you got it.

>> Really?

>> That's it. The seasons. I figured you

got the seasons. Because before that,

you could do the right thing at the

wrong time and you get pain. And three

of the four seasons are the wrong time.

So once we figured out, oh my god, if I

plant in the spring and I take care

through the hot summer, I get this big

reaping and if I hang on to some of it

to make it through the winter, I can

live here. I don't have to worry. All my

fear disappears. So we have the minute

we understood seasons, it changed

humanity. And by the way, there's the

seasons to your life. You could say 0 to

21 is springtime. Springtime. How hard

is it for something to grow in

springtime? If you start a business in

an economic spring where everybody's

optimistic, you think you're a genius,

you're just in the right season, right?

>> So 0 to 21, you're taken care of. And

that season, you grow like crazy.

Somewhere around in roughly, and

everyone's different, 21, 22 years old,

you go the next stage, 22 to 42, and

that's your summertime. That's the

testing period of your life. What

happens? You are 21, you've heard all

this stuff, and now you go, you know

what? I don't know if I believe this

[ __ ] I want to see what I believe.

But I'm going to test all history, all

studies of psychology show this is the

most difficult time in most people's

lives, right? 22 to 42. So if you're in

that range and you're listening, I love

you. Hang in there. You know, this is

this is your ground. If you keep

growing, this is a great time. All

right? Somewhere in that range, you make

a transition. Somewhere around 30, 35,

you're 33, you just got engaged.

Congratulations. Right? You start to

move towards a family. You start to have

those experiences. I'm sure yours will

be very successful. many aren't. Right?

So at 42 43 to 63, that's the fall. If

you planted in the spring, right, and

you worked your tail off during that hot

summer, now you can do more with your

pinky than working around the clock. You

know more people, you have

relationships. You recognize the

patterns. You know what's going on. It's

nothing's really a shock or surprise to

you. You're more strategic. You're more

efficient or more elegant. You have more

choices. um you've learned a lot of

lessons if you grew. Now, if you didn't

plant in the spring and work hard in the

in the summer, you're going to weep in

the fall, not reap in the fall, right?

But so now this is this is your power

period. This is when most people earn

the most money in their life if they're

going to grow because they've

accumulated knowledge, skills,

relationships, and so forth. And then

the winter is comes back to that 64 to

84 to 104 to the oldest humans 124. That

period is a transition period to where

you become a real leader because you're

no longer, you know, in that 22 to 42,

you're trying to prove yourself to

yourself or maybe other people or both.

But there's a point when you get into

your power group. You know who you are

by the time you get into this last

season, this, you know, 64 to 84, 104,

124, you know who the f you are. I mean,

and and you you want people to like what

you do, but if they don't, it's like,

you know who you are. You don't give a

[ __ ] I've just entered that season

myself. I'm about to be 66 in a few

weeks and um it's the most fulfilling

season of all. Um it's mindbgggling. I

wouldn't believe that when I was your

age. That's why I'm sharing it. It's if

you're healthy, if you're fit, if you're

strong. Um if you don't do that, then

it's can be a [ __ ] that time. But if

you're healthy and strong, you have 40

year relationships, 35 year business

relationships. You have friends that

adore you and love them and you're it's

unbreakable. It's unshakable. you have

an intimate relationship or a family or

husband and wife relationship if you've

built to that point that is beyond

anything you could have dreamed of or

hoped for. You wake up every day and you

know that life is a gift and you want to

give back even more. Like you're more

driven than you were when you were in

the 22 to 42 stage. Those are the

seasons. There's one more. Your seasons

of history and your season of history

shapes how you shape your life. So you

can look at a thousand years of Roman

history. I'm very much in history and

500 years of Anglo-American history. Um,

and you start to see patterns. In fact,

I'd recommend for everyone there's a

book called Generations. Have you read

it?

>> No.

>> When I was working with President uh

Clinton

in those days, I worked with President

Clinton. I went across the other side

and worked with the speaker of the house

Gingrich. I on the same day on Clinton's

on on his desk on the resolute desk was

this book generations. And I asked him

about it and he told me about how it

it's amazing. It shows how history is

somewhat predictable and why the cycles

are generated by different generations,

how we react the way we're we grew up.

And then I go over to Gingrich's office

and he's a historian. He's got it on his

desk.

>> It's a pretty thick book, good size

book. My point is it if you want to

navigate your life, you need pattern

recognition so you don't go in reaction.

And one thing is to understand seasons

are a great pattern. They freed us.

There are seasons of your life. You

should think about this season. What's

this season about for you? What do you

want to extract from this season? And

every season has predictable challenges

and predictable opportunities. And where

am I in the season? Some people go

through their springtime during a war, a

winter time. Some people go through

their springtime in a fall. We all grew

up with different environments. And so

we're shaped by that. And that's why

history's changed. So, but let me finish

the last last piece. I've gone way long.

I apologize. But I said there's three

skills. What What do we need, right?

First one is pattern recognition. The

second one is pattern utilization.

So I watch you like you, you and I both,

we develop companies, took them public

very early ages, made a lot of money and

figured out it wasn't just about money,

right? You know, looking at your

history. You didn't just recognize

patterns, you used them. You saw them in

marketing areas. You saw online

opportunities. You saw things. You

didn't just, oh, now I understand it.

You jumped on it. Anyone who's

incredibly successful in anything, if

they're great at dance, if they're great

at investing in companies, they're great

in running companies, if they're great

in singing, they recognize there are

certain patterns. And then the final

skill, and this is what I'm teaching my

children, is you ultimately want to

become a pattern creator. Take an

example. Same learn to play the piano,

right? Yeah. How do you learn to play

the piano? You got to recognize

patterns. And usually you're taught

someone else's patterns that produce

something beautiful,

>> right? could be Bach Beethoven, it could

be some rock, it could be whatever

you're learning. And so you learn those

patterns and you practice them. You

learn to use them, right? And now you

can produce the same music. There is a

point and I'm sure you've experienced

this already and you're going to

experience a lot more in the next 10

years of your life. You've taken so much

input in, you've recognized so many

patterns that now you come through and

you become the pattern creator. And

that's when you start to become the goat

of your industry, the best of all time.

You look at, you know, Tom Brady's a

friend of mine. Like he made pattern

distinctions no one else made on how to

keep his body strong, one of the most

important ones. So he had the duration,

but also how to read the defense, know

what's happening. Those tools, he

started create his own patterns about

how to deal with that, right? And so

once you create your own patterns, you

bring something to the table that's

never been there before. And when you

make something never been there before,

your value goes through the roof. When I

met Jim Ran, my original personal

development teacher, he changed my life

radically. I went when I was 17 years

old. He Oh, yeah. That's great picture.

That's great.

I love that man. Beautiful man. I I went

What I did was I was working as a

janitor. I'm in high school, sophomore

year, and I had um my mom came home one

day and said, "Uh, we've got a friend

that needs somebody to help move stuff."

And I was always trying to earn some

extra money. And so, and it was the

weekends and I wasn't doing the

janitorial work on the weekends. So, I

said, "Okay, I'll I'll I'll do it.

Volunteer." And my dad said, "Yeah, you

got to find out what he did. He used to

be such a loser. Now he's so successful,

right?" And so, when I went to go see

this guy, you know, I'm a hard worker,

so I worked really hard. And so, he took

me to lunch and he starts asking me

questions. I said, "I want to ask you

questions." And I said, "You know, my

father said, "You used to be such a

loser and now you're so successful.

How'd you change your life? I'm just a

kid." I wasn't trying to be funny or

mean, right? The guy you said your dad

said, "What?" He goes, "Well, it's

true." And he said, 'Well, what changed

my life is I went to a seminar. He goes,

"Yeah, I was, you know, three and a half

hours. His name is Jim Ran." He told me

the whole thing. And he's here in Orange

County. He's coming up to an event

pretty quick. I said, 'Could you get me

in? And he goes, "Yeah." I said, "Well,

how much is it?" He said, " $35? It' be

like $250 in today's money, right?" And

I said, " $35? I'm making $40 a week as

a janitor, right?" He go I said, "I I I

can't do that." He goes, "Well, then

just learn on your own experience and

waste a few decades." I said, 'You

really think it's that valuable?' He

goes, "No, you have to decide if it's

that valuable." And so I remember I I

wrestled with this like it was the

biggest decision of my life, a week's

pay. And and I went in and I heard this

man speak. He said some simple things

like, you know, for things to change,

you got to change. For things to get

better, you got to get better, right?

Interesting things. But at the end, I

was so excited. I went up to him and I

said, I want to come work for you. I

want to learn this. I want to be a part

of this. And he turned to me and said,

"Look, kid." He goes, "Uh, um, you know,

if you want to come work for me, you got

to go through all my programs." And I

said, "What does that mean?" And he

said, "Well, you got to this, this,

this." You know, it was like $1,200 for

just one of the programs for a weekend.

$1,200 is like $10,000 today to give an

idea. $12,000. I'm at the time sleeping

in my car, working as a janitor. My dad

left, my mom kicked him out. Mom's a

strong woman. And then she chased me out

with a knife. She wasn't going to kill

me, but I wasn't going back in that

place. And so I'm like, I I can't I

can't do this. And then said something,

he said, you know, decide. He goes, some

people have to survive, some people

succeed, decide which one you are, and

if you're ready by next Saturday, a week

from Saturday, he goes, um, I'm starting

a training and you can join it, but if

you if you don't have the money for it,

you won't be able to do it. And I

remember leaving thinking, this guy just

wants my money. He's such a jerk. And I

was so angry. But then in my head, I was

like, he's right. He's right. You know,

I've always gotten what I had to have. I

haven't had to have much. And so I

started going to banks. I walked in this

place, five banks turned down and I saw

this woman who looked persuadable and

sweet. And her name was uh Mrs.

Williams. This woman looks at me and she

goes, "The bank's not going to loan you

this money." And I'm she's like my fifth

bank. And uh I said, "You don't

understand." And I got all passionate.

She goes, "With this kind of focus and

energy, I think you can do something.

I'd like it to be something good." And

she goes, "Um,

I want to talk to the bank, but if the

bank will ling the money, I will. if you

look me in the eye and you swear to me

I'm never going to have to come find you

and you will take care of this. And I

jumped across, hugged her and kissed

her. She wasn't quite ready for that. I

went to Jim Ran seminar. I went to work

for him. And the first question when I

got finally got a private moment with

him that I asked was, I had four

fathers. They were all good men. They

all worked hard. How come we never had

any money and sometimes no food? I said,

I look over at the school teacher who

makes $35,000 a year, I think, in those

days. And then I see this hedge fund guy

who made a billion dollars in a year. I

said, 'Th that is so unjust.' And he

gave me a lesson that changed my whole

life. He said, Tony, he said, 'You

right. We're all equal as souls,

but we're not equal in the marketplace.

I said, what does that mean? He said,

well, let me ask you a question. Is it

possible someone to make twice as much

money in the same amount of time? Yeah.

Four times, 10 times, 100 times. Yeah,

people do it. How? He goes, you have to

become more valuable. He goes, "If you

go to work at McDonald's, you get this

tiny little income. It's not made to be

an ideal job. It's a first-time job.

Anyone can learn to do it in two hours."

And I've been obsessed about it ever

since. And I that changed everything in

my life. My whole life became how do I

add more value? And so today I have 121

companies and we're doing 12 billion

dollars in business across almost every

industry you can imagine that I'm a part

of. And I couldn't run one company in

the start and you know and make it

successful at 300,000 a year you know

for the revenue all that became in every

industry and I'm a lot of them I'm the

number one in the industry it's because

I'm obsessed with adding value and so I

think that piece is what's missing also

from our youth you're saying what do

they need to do they think I'm here to

get something no life is calling you

what are you going to give not not just

what you want to give but what people

need and so my focus is I give people

what they want. They want to make more

money. They want a better relationship.

But my goal is so I can give them what

they need, which is a life that has more

meaning. And that's one that goes beyond

yourself.

>> It's going to be a stressful period.

>> Yes.

>> To say the least.

>> Um I I think algorithms are actually

making our online experiences more

stressful. I think

>> 100%.

>> Because you know, they're designed to

retain our attention. And the best way

to retain our attention is probably

fear.

>> Yeah. And I think this with myself, I

find myself watching all these [ __ ]

short form videos that are just like

they feel like they're at some level

frying something, depleting something in

me, but they're they're design it's

designed the algorithms to serve me up

the next one that's going to hold me or

scare me or whatever.

>> So in such a world where we're the

algorithms are probably going to, you

know, in the online world, especially

for younger kids, is going to really

>> it's going to is going to be better at

taking hold of us. What are the tools

that I need to deal with this stress and

this angst?

>> The first step to me would be take 15

minutes out of your day and go for

microlearning. Like decide you're going

to learn what matters, right? About

yourself, about AI. We tell people like

you already have habits, right? Most

people are scrolling a good portion of

the day. Give me 15 of those minutes and

let's do microlearning on something, a

new language to stimulate your brain,

philosophy, history, AI, something

pragmatic, something that's valuable.

It's just getting people to have some

habits that you know the 1% growth

metaphor right you know you know 27

times at the end of the year it's like

it's pretty simple all we have to do is

create a new direction if you try to do

it one giant step it's overwhelming for

people that the secret to life is

chunking think of it this way some

people never work out but they eat

easily so I'll say to them why don't you

work out and they'll give me all the

reasons and I'll say but you know you

know I'd have to I'd have to join a gym

and I said okay well tell me what's

entailed and they'll go I got to look up

where the gyms are and then I got to I

got to drive to each of the gyms and

then I got to you know I got to park the

car each place and find it and then I

got to get out and then you know get

hopefully get a pass and then they take

you on the tour and and then they will

sit you down and sell stuff to you and

they got to back in the car and you got

to drive things and then when you go do

it let's say you sign up then you go and

you got to check check in and take off

all your clothes and then they drop and

get wrinkled and then you go work out

and it's sweaty you got to wipe other

people's sweat off and then afterwards

you got to go do a shower and your hair

is messed up and your makeup you got

start all over and everything else and

you got to get the thing and you got to

back out. It's like it's too much work.

What does it take to eat? Well, you just

go. They chunk eating is one thing. They

chunk working out as 29,000 things,

right? So, if you chunk too big, try to

do everything in one bite. It's

overwhelming. And if you chunk it too

small, it's overwhelming. So, there's a

different size for different things. And

if we want to learn and grow, which is

what the secret is to your future is to

become a learning machine about what

matters. Like most people major in minor

things, they know more about some

actresses or actors love life um than

they do or their skin regimen than they

do about their own values and needs and

what makes them tick as a human being.

Today you can learn from the brightest,

smartest people on earth. They're

available. They're available by online.

They're available by by contracting or

coaching them. They're they're

everywhere. There isn't a limit anymore.

There's zero limit except you're

deciding to be a creator and not a

maintainer. He said you're deciding I'm

not just going to manage my life. I'm

going to design and create something cuz

the tools are available everywhere. And

so I'm just one of those.

>> I have a couple of questions based on

what you've just said. The first one

starting at the top was around you

talked about this idea of pattern

recognition uh utilization and creation.

The question I had from that section was

is there a way to get better at pattern

recognition?

>> Yeah. Well, first by understanding it's

the most important key.

>> Okay. Okay. So, it's like if I'm

fearful, what's the pattern I'm missing

here? What's something that could give

me some history to understand that this

isn't random? Like, you know, people

say, "I overeat. I overdrink. I I get

really angry at every you don't overread

every moment. You don't smoke every

moment." What are the triggers that you

use

>> and do you do you recommend people

write? How do they how do they raise

their self-awareness enough to start

spotting these patterns?

>> I believe in diaries. You call it diary.

I call it journals. I believe in

journalism to be able to do that to

guide yourself. But yes, but it's more

than that. You have to you have to not

only make the distinction, but you also

have to have a different state to it.

For example, let's say um let's say uh I

say to you, I know I know um I need to

lose weight. Um I'm going to do it. I'm

going to go on a diet. Um I'm going to

work out. Am I going to do it?

>> No. Because I'm not in the state to do

it. Now, most people are trying to

figure out what to do. And there's

nothing wrong with that. But it's the

wrong sequence because when you think

about what to do, if you've never done

it before, you feel uncertain, you don't

follow through. If you have done it

before, but you don't feel strong

enough, you're not going to follow

through. So, I tell people, if you want

a breakthrough, it's three things.

Strategy, story, state. Most people, if

they want to have a breakthrough, they

want to change their body, you want to

change their life, they look for how to

do it. And that's natural, but it's the

absolute wrong order. And if you do

things in the wrong order, it's like

having the numbers to a phone for

someone and you dial the wrong order,

you don't reach somebody. Or the vault,

right? You got the right numbers the

wrong order, vault doesn't open. Why are

so many people overweight in this

country? Like 60% of the population is

overweight. How is that possible? Is it

because what it takes to be fit and

strong is so incredibly complex? No.

Only the 1% knows. No. It's super

expensive. No, you have to work not to

know what to do. So that the how is not

the problem. So I say strategy story

state that's how you have a

breakthrough. Yes, I'm a strategist. The

right strategy can save you 10 years. I

love that. It's fun. But if I start with

a strategy, you'll listen and go, "Yeah,

that's cool." And you won't do it. The

real problem is the story you have. The

story you have is I've tried everything.

>> The story you have, nothing works. The

story has all the good ones are gone and

I'm gay and they're not or they're gay

and I'm not. It's the story is the

belief you've told yourself over and

over because belief is the invisible

force that controls everything in your

life. And when you have a belief that

you've honed because you're fearful and

you've never done this before, then I

can show you exactly how to do it and

you'll say, "It doesn't work. I've tried

that." Yeah. How many times? How hard?

How many minutes? Right? But what's

behind the story is your state. Your

mental emotional state. If I said to

you, I am going to lose 12 pounds in the

next 6 weeks. There is non-negotiable.

Here's why I do this and this and this

and this. Do you think I'm going to do

it?

>> Yes.

>> You bet your ass I'm going to do it.

Right. You can feel the state.

>> Yeah.

>> So, people are usually trying to figure

out how to do something and they got a

story about it when what they need first

is the state. When you go in the right

state, have you had this happen where

you get in a flow and and something

comes through? You're hitting a tennis

ball or you're doing or you're speaking

and at the end of you're like, "That was

pretty awesome. I did that. How'd I do?

I don't know. That [ __ ] just flowed.

That was pretty awesome, right? You're

in a peak state. I put people in a peak

state while they're doing the things

we're talking about.

>> So, what do you do right before you come

out on stage? And what can anyone

listening at home do before the big

meeting, the big moment in their life or

really like on a daily basis to

configure our state?

>> The first thing I do, my little daily

routine is I go out, I use the jacuzzi

for a moment to open my body up and

everything else and then I go on the

cold plunge. And I've been doing that

for 18 years now. Everybody talks about

it, but I go into that cold plunge. And

the secret though is I don't negotiate

with myself. I go on the cold plunge for

both the health purposes because it

floods your body, right? Completely. But

the the real value is is the mental

discipline of I don't go, okay, I'm

ready. And I don't get in one just lie

lying here. I dunk under. I jump in. Not

one that goes above my head. I go under

under the water. I dive into it. Right?

And I don't stand there. I don't stand

there and go, "Oh, I feel cold right

now." or another minute or like I've

trained my brain when I say go, we go.

And I've done that for decades. And so

I'm not I'm not in the place when I say

go somewhere else, my brain obeys. I'm

not I don't have these stories in my

head back and forth trying to have a

conversation with myself, trying to

convince myself to do something I've

decided, right? So decision point is

everything. So I've trained myself to do

it, but also it produces a massive

change. It is not comfortable. I don't

think there's been a morning in my life

that I've looked forward to doing it,

but it changes you. So, that's one

thing. The thing I do before I go on

stage, I have a routine of how I shift

my body. I have a I have a prayer that I

do, which is use me, Lord, and I picture

being to serve as many human people as

human beings as possible. I see them not

only where they are now, I see where

they're going to be by the end of what

I'm done. And then I make this radical

shift in my body. I make these moves and

explosive breath. And then I storm out

there. And then I've I've taken myself

imagine on a zero to 10 to a 20 of

intensity. So now I can drop down to a

nine feels like I'm very relaxed and but

I've got a lot more gears in me than you

know. And that's how I can project to

the guy at the top of the stadium and

hold them for 12 hours, you know, who

wouldn't sit for a three-hour movie

someone spent $300 million on.

>> And do you think a lot about your diet

and nutrition?

>> I'm Yeah, I'm totally committed to that.

And I also train like a crazy person and

I do hyperbaric oxygen. And I I you name

it. I'm a I'm a biohacker. Um and I'm

committed to that. I have a whole

company that does it for people as well.

So I've always done that because I've

had to to perform. And I'm 66 going to

produce results that, you know, were

designed by a 25-year-old, right? But

I'm stronger today than I was then. I

got more aerobic capacity. I've got more

muscle capacity. So I mean, there's a

limit, but I haven't found it yet.

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terms and conditions apply. In a world

of um in a world of challenging meaning

where a lot of a lot of my viewers are

struggling with meaning, one of the

things I've noticed is that it appears

especially with young men who you talked

about earlier. They it appears that more

and more of them are turning to religion

and you mentioned your your faith in God

there. It's a really interesting

phenomenon for me that I've observed in

my own life. I've talked about this a

few times. Um certain friends of mine

who were very individualistic. They were

living the dream in any way that you

might define it, you know. Yeah. They

had money, they had freedom, they had no

boss, no dependence, no no partner. And

suddenly you see their life turn into

what looks like depression, a form of

depression.

>> Yeah.

>> An absence of meaning in their lives.

And I I I I wanted just to throw this

out there because we we are in a society

that's um I think increasingly

encouraging independence.

>> Yes.

>> And there's upsides to independence, of

course. We all understand those. I

wondered if there's a sort of a

double-edged sword here when we're we're

you kind of said it earlier about making

the world more about just me me and I.

And in a world of abundance, I imagine

many more people are going to choose to

make it about I I I cuz they can I could

put a headset on theoretically never

leave my house. Someone could literally

put a robot puts the food in my mouth. I

could have some sex robot that just gets

me off. Money comes in my account by

UBI. the reason your friends got

depressed. I've had this happen. I've

seen this as well. I've, you know, most

of my friends are older than I am.

Usually, for some reason, I gravitated

to to men that were 18, 20 years my

senior who were brilliant and learning

from them and seeing where they're going

in their life and so forth. But I watch

some of them like sell their company and

make a billion two

>> and then they were happy for like a

month maybe and they'd call me, let's go

do this, go do that. And, you know, try

to go to somebody. I got, you know, I

got a lot of companies, got a lot got a

lot of kids, I got a lot of things,

right? And it's like, and eventually

they all want to get back in the game

because we have six human needs.

Certainty,

uncertainty, because think about this.

If you were certain every moment of your

life, you know what someone's going to

say, and I'm sure you've had this

somewhat. You know what they're going to

say before they're going to say it. But

if you knew what someone's going to say

before they're going to say, you know

what's going to happen before it's going

to happen every moment of every day. In

the beginning, it'd be cool. But after a

while, what would you feel?

>> Bored.

>> Out of your mind. Bored.

>> So God in her infinite wisdom gave us

uncertainty. We need variety. We need

surprise. So I ask people, you got a

stadium, 15,000 people, and I say, "How

many you love surprises?" And everybody

raised their hand, "Yay!" And I go,

"Bullshit. You love the surprises you

want." The surprises you don't want, you

call problems, but we need those, too.

Right? Third need is significance. They

need to feel unique. You need to feel

special. The need to feel important. Who

do you think has that need?

>> All of us.

>> Everyone.

>> Yeah.

>> Now, some people like Donald Trump is

pretty obvious, right? And some people

though it's like I don't want

significance. I don't want to be I don't

want to be special. That's only because

they feel if they get special they get

attacked.

>> Right? Every some people do it by

earrings. Some people buy tattoos in

certain areas. Some by knowing bot box

scores about a sport more than anybody

else. Some people buy their art. Some

people the way they dress. Some people

buy their money. Some people be more

generous. Everyone finds a way. Okay.

However, some people do it through

violence.

>> Okay. So let me give you another seed.

>> Why has violence always been with us? If

I feel I'm insignificant, and this is,

by the way, even more powerful in most

men's cases because the nature of

testosterone, right? Testosterone is

about significance. It's about being

dominant, right? So, if I'm uh I'm in a

community and I'm driving by or I'm

walking by this community and it's a

tough community, a tough environment,

somebody comes up, puts a gun to my

head. I've never met him in my life.

Why? Well, first of all, how certain do

you think that person is you're going to

respond when they put a gun to your

head? Before you may not have paid

attention to them, but you're going to

pay attention now. How significant are

they in your life on a 0 to10 scale with

that gun to your head? They're the most

significant thing on earth. And by the

way, every time it's a little different.

They give variety. Anytime you meet a

belief, an emotion, or a behavior meets

at least three of these six needs, you

will become addicted to that thought,

that feeling, or that behavior. It could

be a positive one or a negative one, but

you will become addicted to it. So

violence connects those three,

but you can also get significance by

tearing other people down. So why do we

have so many warriors in their little

house, you know, doing their little

virtual signaling, doing what they're

doing, cuz they've never done anything

with their life. And it used to be I'd

have to confront you. Now I don't

confront you who don't even know who I

am. I can say all this terrible [ __ ] and

I'm sitting my little place and make my

seal feel significant because I make you

smaller, I'm bigger. It's why social

media is so terrible. There's great

things in social media. That's what's so

terrible about it. It's like people now

can meet their need for significance

without much effort. No consequence. You

come and say this directly to me, you're

going to pay a price of some sort,

right? That's no longer there. Now,

fourth need, connection and love.

Everybody wants love. Most people settle

for connection because they've had love

at one point. It was so painful when it

ended. They decided to settle for

connection. How can you get it? You can

get it by going for a run and feeling

connected to God of the universe,

nature. You can get it by prayer. You

can get it by uh being with some

friends. You can get it by making love.

You can get it by getting a dog. If

nothing else, get a dog. Don't get a

cat. Cats leave. But you know, dogs, you

leave for 2 minutes. It's like you've

been gone for 6 months. They'll make you

feel very loved. There's a million ways

to feel connection and love. Some are

positive, some are negative. Some people

get connected by their problems. They're

always comparing problems. You ever seen

two people comparing? But I have this.

Well, you think that's bad. Let me tell

you my they're arguing over significance

and they're connecting through their

problems. Right? So the biggest drug on

earth is not cocaine. It's not fentanyl.

It's not dope. It's problems. Cuz the

deepest fear everybody has is they're

not enough. And our deeper fear is if

we're not enough, we won't be loved.

I've never met a human being. I've

worked with kings, queens, winners of

everything you can imagine, academy

awards, scientists.

There's some point in which you might

feel for someone you care about most

that you're not smart enough, young

enough, old enough, pretty enough, funny

enough, rich enough, playful enough,

something enough. And it is the worst

feeling on earth. To feel like you are

unloved and worthless is internal death.

So people come up with a story, it's

just cuz I have, you know, um I have

this dyslexia, that's why. Or it's cuz I

was raped. And maybe they really were

raped. It's I'd like to kill the guy

that hurt them. But that's not why

they're feeling what they're feeling

right now. It's because they're fearful.

And so if you have a big problem, that's

why I'm not where I want to be. It's not

that I'm not enough and not worthy of

love. And so people use problems as a

way to connect. Now these first four

needs, certainty, uncertainty, you can

see how they'd have a conflict. But have

you ever rented a movie you've already

watched?

>> Yeah.

>> Get a life.

I have too. Why would we do that? Cuz

we're certain it's good, but it's been

long enough that we hope it's been

there's a variety. We won't remember it

all. Have a variety once again. Yeah.

>> So you can meet multiple needs through

the same task potentially. But

certainty, uncertainty, significance.

Here you are in Hollywood. Why do people

come to Hollywood?

>> Be famous and

>> be famous, right? They don't know what

that really is. If they did, some of

them would move away from it. But

significance is what they're looking

for. But what they really want is love.

That's what everybody wants.

>> But you know what the problem is? They

think if they're significant, everyone's

going to love them. And I get these

clients without mentioning any names,

the biggest names in Hollywood, the

biggest names in sports. And you know

what their number one thing is? They're

angry. Why are they angry? Because they

thought if I'm significant, everybody

love me. And now they go, people rip me

online. They interrupt me with my family

trying to have dinner. They don't give a

[ __ ] about me. They just want a picture.

They just want this. And if I don't do

it, they write that about me.

>> They care about themselves.

>> They care about themselves. And so what

happened is I thought by being

significant, I would be loved. And now

I'm super significant and I'm not loved.

I'm attacked.

Because the more you try and push your

significance on someone, the less

significant they make you. If you love

someone, there's nothing more

significant than that. True love, not a

trade, not I'll love you if you give me

something. Genuine love. And if that

happens, you become significant in

people's lives. But that's the number

one challenge in this community. So

significance is love attack. If you're

significant, you're the individual. But

I need to be connected. Well, if I'm so

connected, who am I? And that's the

pull. The secret to it all are the final

two needs. These are the spiritual

needs. Not religious, but spiritual. And

that is we all must grow. When you grow,

you feel alive. And if you don't grow,

you start to die inside. And this isn't

my rule. Everything in the universe

grows or dies. As you well know, this is

the law of the universe. If your

relationship's not growing, it's dying.

Don't [ __ ] yourself. If your

business is not growing, you're a

businessman. You know it is not growing.

It is dying. You better do something

now. Right? But we grow so we have

something finally to give which is where

meaning comes in life. When I grow I

have something more to give. And if I

can give that to someone then my life is

more meaningful than just the pleasure

of I have the machine that you know

makes me feel pleasure in certain parts

of my body and feeds me and all the

things you talked about. If you went to

Vegas and you pull down that you know

that little jukebox thing and you get

boom boom boom bars bars bars what's

your reaction?

>> Amazing.

>> Amazing. Wow, this is And you pull it a