Kanye West Lecture at The Oxford Guild
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[cheering]
>> So, I could just start with one question
because I want to
vibe off of of an idea to take your idea
and then I could riff off of that for
uh they said I have 20 minutes to speak
or so
uh and I might go longer.
Can you Can you hear me all the way in
the back?
>> Yeah.
>> All right. So,
you see
All right. So, anyone ask a question,
raise your hand.
Put the hat right there. You're the
first one to raise your hand, I saw.
>> Yeah, I wanted you to talk about and
reflect on your progression from the
clothing strap down from freshman
adjustment actually. Like freshman
adjustment to the Yeezus in your future.
I just wanted to wanted you to talk
about your aesthetic and how it's
progressed.
Okay. So,
I'll be so actually adjustment as well.
Okay.
>> So, the the keywords that I heard there
>> I could bump this.
>> And everyone, please be completely quiet
because I can literally hear a whisper
and it'll like throw off my stream of
consciousness and the best thing is like
when I can get a stream of consciousness
going, it's like you can get the best
like illest quotes.
And literally if you whisper like can
throw it off.
Uh
So, the two words that I um
I vibed off right there was uh
aesthetic and progression.
And I was having a discussion with the
designer that I want to
use
for my next season. That actually I I I
saw it's working. and even realize he
till I talked to him that he had studied
with a comic book artist. And I felt
that type of energy through his work.
Uh
anyway, but I was
uh
discussing my background because a lot
of people didn't realize that I've been
in art school since age five and in art
competition since
age 14.
And
I ended I ended up going to college for
a bit on art scholarship and I uh
went to
I I had a scholarship to three schools,
the same same Xavier, the American
Academy of Art, and the Art Students
League of Chicago.
And
I went to the American Academy of Art
because it was the biggest scholarship.
Uh and because my mother couldn't afford
to, you know, put me in any of those
schools. And she was a professor at a
school that I could have went to for
something that she could have could
afford since she got a discount.
Uh
today was the first time that I
realized that if I could do that again
that I would have went to the Art
Institute
over the American Academy of Art.
That I would have
researched
where I could have gotten the best and
the strongest education.
Uh
and I'm sure this will end up online, so
I don't want to
diss any of the students that are
currently at the American Academy of
I'm sure it's equal to the Art Institute
of Chicago by now.
But at the time that I was going
you know, I would look around at the
work in the class and not feel inspired.
Not feel inspired by the teachers.
Uh
and I kind of
you know, the idea of being a fine
artist, you know, that's a really
difficult profession to get into to
you know, be respected in to make money
at.
And and maybe maybe the goal for some of
the people were just to, you know, work
at
uh advertising agency or work at a
reputable or two, you know,
you know,
not truly end up, you know, being just
colonels of something.
Uh,
my goal, if I was going to do art, fine
art, would have
been to have become Picasso.
That was
or greater.
Um,
and that always sounds like so funny to
people. The idea of comparing yourself
to someone
in the past that had done so much, that
in your life you're not allowed to even
think
you can do as much.
You know, that's uh,
that's the mentality
that suppresses
humanity.
I talked to Ray Kurzweil the other day
and he just
the conversation was quick, but he, you
know, touched on the idea of thinking
faster and
reading faster and I just thought it was
like super important to go
meet with that. And I'm going to touch
into aesthetic field coming to the
stage.
Um,
uh,
and the progression from me doing
abstract art work to
uh, so that we got, you know, artwork.
Um,
so, some of you here probably remember
the night when McDonald's treats came
through me
and I started talking about probably
professions that you guys are going into
in the future that seemed like they had
nothing to do with Iraq.
Uh,
but what I was talking about was a
a band of thinkers
that could remove
religion, race,
gender,
and politics
and somehow come together to find
solutions for broken play.
Uh we
we have the resources
as a civilization to find utopia.
But we're led by
the most greedy
the least noble
and
what I notice
about creatives and one of the reason
why I get in trouble
is
not only did I want to
design video games or make music or
ride bikes
I think one of the most important things
to my ability to create so much in the
past 12 13 years is
my desire to play sports.
And I approach creativity like a sport.
Where
if I had a drawing, I would react just
like a child. LOOK AT THAT
DRAWING RIGHT THERE. YEAH.
>> [laughter]
>> AND I GUESS, you know, of course we've
been taught as for, you know, people in
this room that that draw or, you know,
sing
on the aesthetic
that's that creative aesthetics because
we're all creatives here. We're all one
artist. But some people are artists of
business. And some people are artists of
conversation. Some people, you know,
uh but particularly for
the aesthetic driven creatives
you know, we were taught to
you know, hide our
black fingernail polish
and put our head down in the back of the
class
and not be noticed
out of fear that someone might laugh at
one of our ideas
or that our idea could become a mockery
or
uh a failure in some way.
Um
There's a
uh
a Bible saying, "No weapon formed
against me shall prosper."
The
So, recently I've been doing interviews,
and I had to go back to this verse
because
I don't think there's a living celebrity
with more weapons formed against them.
But, I also don't think there's one more
prosperous.
So, what weapons have prospered?
The smoke and mirror of opinions.
You know, I I was sitting with Steve
McQueen because he shot
my He shot the the visuals for All Day 2
days ago.
Uh and it's completely different than
the Brit Awards.
Um
And I told him
this so it doesn't get taken out of
context, I'm going to use the word like.
I'm not saying it is. I'm using it as a
comparison
for people who want to say, "Kanye goes
to Oxford and tells everyone that this
what I'm about to say."
And I'm not telling you this. I'm
telling you what I told Steve McQueen in
private.
Well, what I said was, "The Matrix is
like the Bible
of the post-information age."
I compared it like
when the hundred guys, the thousand
guys, you know, come at Neo.
Like those Those are opinions.
That's perception.
That's tradition.
Attacking you
from every which angle possible.
But if you have a focused why
and you have master senseis like
Laurence Fishburne
and you have a squad behind you
you literally
can put the world in slow motion.
Like Michael Jordan talked about the
rim, you know, being wider.
And it's felt to me from, you know,
first hand
as
first hand experience
you know, it's still February, right?
Listen.
I can't say this statement anymore, but
for the first two
two months, me and my team would like
look at each other and say
Uh by the way, I don't know days of the
week, so I I don't know my days of the
week. I just go to executive with my
appointments.
Uh
we would just look at each other and say
it's still February.
For the sheer amount of
work that we were able to put into the
world. Some of the stuff that they've
worked on for
uh
years coming, months coming
but nonetheless, they just came back to
back to back to back to back answering
every crazy interview question slam
dunking, blocking every shot, catching
every rebound. And aside from
the
right that I don't have to give my
opinion publicly about artists.
Uh
I probably would have been mad in 2000.
I know that's incorrect, also.
Uh
You know,
this humanity that I talk about, this
civilization that I talk about, this
future utopia idea that I talk about
can only happen through collaboration.
One of the things that I loved about
Elon Musk, and I kind of, you know, I
love Steve Jobs. You know, that's like
my favorite person. But, there's one
thing that disappointed me.
It was when Steve passed, he didn't give
the ideas out.
That was kind of selfish.
And you got You know that Elon was like,
"Yo, take these ideas." Because maybe
there's some companies outside of Apple
that could work on it and push humanity
forward.
Maybe the stock brokers won't like that,
you know, the stockholders wouldn't like
the idea of Steve giving his ideas out.
But,
you know, ideas are free.
And you can't be selfish.
And
I think that that's the
progression of mind
with
the advent of a human being named Drake.
Uh
You know, this idea of holding onto a
number one spot.
And then you get this guy
that comes and blows out the water every
number one of any band ever.
Be it me or Paul McCartney.
Um
And at that point,
you know, when you've
lost the ideal of holding on to that
concept,
you can leave the mountain top finally
and walk down and readjust and see what
your position
on Earth can be.
And
I've had all of these mixed emotion,
mixed feelings based off of uh
you know,
bigotries, walls, perceptions that I've
had to deal with. Ones that drove me to
titles like black skinhead or
I am a god.
Now, I understand
that I'm
a servant.
And with
my voice
and with the information and my ability
to build relationships with
amazing people, speak to amazing people,
or call Elon Musk out of the blue,
or call Obama out of the blue. He calls
the home phone out of the blue.
Uh
the
With that, I have a responsibility
to serve.
But why do I say the Matrix is like the
Bible?
And what is my definition of
the Matrix?
I worked with this artist named Vanessa
Beecroft.
And she, before our uh presentation in
New York, the Adidas collaboration,
she bought my daughter some um
some toys. And it'll be interesting cuz
I would see people toys that, you know,
people would buy my daughter. I'd say,
"This toy is a problem. I don't want my
daughter playing with this. It could
seem some Adidas or like that. I'm was
"No, it's not enough love put into this.
This is just manufactured, you know,
with the will to sell, but not the will
to give an inspiration."
So, Vanessa is very irreverent and very
focused. She's like my eyes. She's a
piece of my brain.
And
um
she bought my daughter these three
wolves knowing that the whole collection
would play the song Wolves that we based
off this concept.
And when my daughter saw these wolves,
I had never seen her happier.
She was going so crazy. She was grabbing
one. She was riding on top of one. She
was just running around. I've never seen
her happier than this moment.
Uh
and
that level of happiness seems to be
the thing that we're fighting for every
day. That we're trying to buy back. That
we're trying to work for. That we're
trying to hope that you know, especially
in America.
Like, you know, America, people really
do wear like $3,000
shirts. You know, it's like for real.
Like, I've been here and here in
Stockholm, they the few of us that come
on do this like $3,000 shirts.
I'm assuming that I'm probably like
$2,000 I got to freaking live by.
Um
but that joy
that idea of joy. What makes you happy?
What makes you happy inside? We've been
sold a concept of joy constantly, you
know, through advertising, through
car advertising, through, you know,
fashion branding.
You know, it's not the concept of time.
And time with your family, time with
your friends.
The little time that we do have on
earth, the existence of the human race,
and what do we do with that?
It somehow
was sold to us through a Gucci bag or
something.
Uh
I I have something I say all the time.
I'm saying it again. Time, in my
opinion, time is the only luxury.
It's the only thing you can't get back.
If you lose your
luggage
I'm not going to say the obvious thing
that I would normally say cuz I would
normally say it cuz I actually have a
meeting with Kanye, so
Uh
But if you lose your expensive luggage,
uh
at the airport you can get that back.
You can't get
the time back.
And everyone knows that when you're
younger, time moves
way slower. Summers take so much longer.
Class takes so much longer.
Uh
It feels like
people
do everything in life, you know, I'll
speak from American perspective, to get
this like BMW or this Benz, to get this
town home, and you get 2.5 kids and a
Uh but what happens is small, you know.
And uh
And you're looking for this moment
where
you sit in your BMW after all the work
that you've done and all the accolades
that you got and all the, you know, how
big your house is and everything.
And
somehow you think you're going to get
that level of joy
you know
that my daughter had when she received
those bulbs.
And as you're sitting in traffic in your
BMW,
it's something that,
you know, feels empty
to everyone who reaches
that point.
You know, this concept of the selfish
human,
this idea of separation by race or
gender or religion or age or
my favorite thing to hate,
class.
Mhm.
People say a village
uh uh it takes a village to raise a
child.
People ask me, you know, how my daughter
is doing.
Uh
she's only doing good if your daughter's
doing good.
We're all one family.
Like, literally, last names aside, we're
all one family.
And we have the ability to approach our
race
like ants, or we have the ability to
approach our race like crabs.
And there's so many ideas that create
division.
There's certain things that have been
beat in a way, some way, race, whatever.
You know, this I
This is a generation that is
far less racist. It's only very, you
know, we have small remnants of even
thinking of calling someone separately a
racial slur. Like, the white people that
listen to rap say that
in the privacy of their own mind.
>> Um
So,
that idea,
you know, it's past.
It's an older idea. We had Cosby Show,
Barack Hussein, you know, stuff like
Beyoncé, it's great, you know. Just
That's past.
But, there's still something that you're
being taught
every day, and especially
in the UK.
And that's the division by class.
Our main focus, in my opinion, this is I
have the right to say this in front of
you guys, to give it an PSA, you know,
if you like it, you like it. If you
don't, just send it right back. The
Our main focus, or picture a world,
imagine a world, imagine a world with
Let's remove war first off. Imagine a
world with no war, and imagine
if
everyone's main focus, more so than how
they look when they go to the club, more
so than how many followers they may get,
more so than how many fit they get, you
know, you know, their main focus was to
help
someone else.
You know, I was joking with the uh
interviewer, you know, earlier today
that
people talk about, you know, the amount
of viewers that uh
the Brits get, or the amount of viewers
that the Grammys get. And I said they
need to do award shows for the Nobel
Peace Prize, but I guess that doesn't
sell as many MasterCard commercials.
Why did I mention a brand? I had two
things that
I'm trying to like get a flawless
victory on my exchange. the game.
And I've already had two demerits, uh
Rims,
two missed free throws.
Uh
no offense to MasterCard.
But that was a big load off,
Rims.
Um
um
you guys are being taught, without you
knowing it, ways to separate yourselves
from each other.
If you're separated, you can be easily
controlled.
If you're too busy pointing fingers at
each other as opposed to holding hands,
you can't get anything done.
You know,
Chris Rock called My Beautiful Dark
Twisted Fantasy
um
Chris Rock and everybody else in the
civil liberties publication called My
Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy the best
album of the last three five years.
Uh
this only came through collaboration.
One of the most memorable things about
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
was Nicki Minaj.
And the fact that she kicked my ass
on my song
on one of the best albums, the best
album.
I'm just saying what the Brits said.
of past 25 years.
That and that the best album of the past
25 years that I spent
a year and a half baking after I was
exiled.
Exiled from my country. It was a
personal exile, but exiled.
>> [laughter]
>> from my best feet to come back and
deliver the magnum opus of a work and
outshine to be beat by a girl basically.
Um
This
was necessary. I think it was one of the
most important points of working on that
album.
was to
not stop her from her moment because of
how good she did.
So
just to give a comparison but not a
complaint.
If you think about why did it take so
long for the new Yeezys to come out? Why
did it Why did I have to leave
you know, one group and go to the other
group? Why did that group
not want to speak to me?
I think that the Yeezys I was doing over
there were comparable to that Nicki
Minaj verse.
Because these guys would work 3 years on
a project. We got We going to break out
this shoe and it's going to We going to
wrap it up by the Olympics and we're
going to put it on this celebrity and
this and then the heads
stumble come and say, "My favorite shoe
is the Yeezy." AND I
CAN'T HEAR ABOUT THESE YEEZYS ANYMORE.
LIKE the verse is like, "My favorite
verse is Nicki." I care about that verse
anymore.
But, because
I'm not saying just because cuz she was
she was it's going to work for her
anyway.
But, let's just say that in some way it
helped give her some exposure.
She was able to go on
and become a successful and fly and run
and dream and provide.
And it was not bought
because of my name.
You know, one of my biggest problems,
one of my biggest Achilles' heel has
been my ego.
And if there
and I, Kanye West, third person, can
have
can remove my ego,
I think there's hope for everyone.
>> [applause]
>> When you talk about when I talk about
collaboration in the creative process,
the best idea wins.
I study the way Steve Jobs approached
Pixar, the way Steve Jobs approached
Apple, the way Disney approached Disney
with the animates, because you get these
creative animators that come in and
this idea I got this idea of that fit
there, we do this and that and if people
are saying like
I'm proud of the consistency of the
performances that I've done since I've
been out here.
Uh,
and it comes from
four would-be egomaniacs being forced to
work together.
The best light guy on the planet, the
best staging guy, the best video
director guy, another staging guy, a guy
with back problems. week. Just put that
Cuz all of like, "What are you doing?"
He's like, "I got
Um
to just deliver back-to-back-to-back
extremely successful
inspiring
groundbreaking
visual
visceral creative moments
that otherwise would have been
challenged.
And
the kid from Chicago
screaming in interviews and screaming
from the top of the stage four events in
a row.
Had to pull that card out a few times.
Not particularly
screaming but remember I will scream. My
mama taught me if I was in a grocery
store
in a aisle by myself
and a stranger
grab my hand
scream at the top of your lungs.
So whenever I I'm when I'm at a work
show and a stranger grabs my hand and
says, "Okay
uh
So we're going to use these movie lights
or we're going to go play the music
right now before we define the look or
we're going to just keep the cameras
cutting in a traditional TV way."
I'll scream at the top of my
lungs.
People say I have a bad reputation. I
think I got the best reputation in the
building.
Because they want you to have the
reputation of tucking your black nail
polish into your pockets and sitting in
the corner of the class and not fighting
for your ideas out of fear of being
ridiculed.
Someone not
liking your thoughts, being embarrassed,
being talked about, you know, the next
day.
Not being accepted.
Being an outsider.
Being crazy.
That's another one of my favorite ones.
To be called crazy.
Um
I'm
nowhere near as smart as either of my
parents. They were both educators, both
had PhDs.
Um
So
I always feel embarrassed when I speak
in comparison to the I mean, my mom was
head of the English department.
You know, my dad is an incredible,
you know, orator and humanitarian.
Just 5 years ago
he
stayed at College of Charleston
to help
to help.
He worked on an idea of good water and
created these water distillers in
uh somewhere in between Maryland and
Delaware. I'm forgetting the exact
location.
Uh
and
he put together this
good water distiller cafe where kids
could also be poems,
dances and play.
People could come and just read,
get on the internet.
It had everything driven by clean water.
I remember calling him when he was busy
nailing the planks of wood together
himself.
You know, I gave him
uh some money to to work on the idea.
I remember when I was young and I saw
my dad working on computers. This is
before Steve Jobs. Like everybody just
felt they could start a computer
company. My dad just going to computer
company.
And uh
I remember the guy that he was working
with
ended up being a bad guy. And that told
everybody he's doing and you know, just
being like uh
borderline like a scam idea. Like
computers could be the next thing. Let's
start our own computer company.
And
the guys that
helped him
that he had the voice to find that he
looked at whatever the version of
Craigslist was back then uh to find
didn't have the same motivation, didn't
have a high enough skill set to match up
to his vision to his dream for it to be
considered to be a success.
But the success is that his successor
will be successful
in his lifetime.
And you could say
oh, when you are successful
I'm successful in learning
about
the beauty
that is afforded rich people.
But in learning that, being growing up
middle class
it's something that's beating out of my
chest that screams out
wait a second, I was middle class and I
didn't get to see none of this
So, let's have an NBC telethon moment
and say that beauty has been stolen from
the people
and sold back to them under the concept
of luxury.
It's not
illegal to not listen to music.
It's illegal
to not wear clothes and also possibly
extremely cold.
Um
So, that means
that someone is proposing an idea on you
that you legally
have to do.
Clothing should be like food.
There should never be a $5,000 sweater.
You know what should cost $5,000?
A car
should be $5,000.
And you know who should work on a car?
The people who work on the $500,000
cars.
All the best talent in the world needs
to work for the people.
And I am so serious about this
concept that I will stand in front of
anyone
and fight for it.
Because I was 14 and middle class.
I know what it felt like to not be able
to have.
So, if people say to me
"But you're successful.
What are you crying about?"
I'm crying about the people.
I'm crying about their dogs,
our dog as one family.
What good is it?
What good is anything that everyone
can't have?
Every ism
They think they're with done with
racism.
What about elitism?
What about separatism?
What about classism?
That's all.
>> [applause]
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In this candid speech, Kanye West reflects on his creative journey, the importance of collaboration, and his evolving perspective on art, luxury, and social responsibility. He discusses his progression from his early days in art school to his current status as a global influencer, emphasizing that his goal is to foster a 'band of thinkers' to solve societal issues. Kanye criticizes the industry's focus on elitism and classism, advocating for democratizing beauty and design, and argues that true luxury should be accessible to everyone rather than being reserved for the elite.
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