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He would neither go towards the feeding

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grounds at the edge of the ice nor

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return to the colony.

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Shortly afterwards, we saw him heading

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straight towards the mountains some 70

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km away.

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But why? All righty, chat. Today we're

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going to talk about the nihilistic

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penguin. So, this is a case of a penguin

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that instead of staying safe with like

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all of the other nesting penguins or

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traveling to the ocean where it will

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presumably get food, it looks towards

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the mountains and takes off. And there's

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something like incredibly noble about

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this, right? So, people watch this and

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they're sort of like, wow, this is like

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the triumph of the human spirit. I think

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a great example of epic meaning being

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epic failure is Into the Wild. So, this

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is a story of someone who went into the

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wilderness and then basically starved to

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death. He started to eat something, I

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think, called potato berries, which are

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he was so hungry that he found these

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things that looked like potatoes, but

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are actually toxic when ingested in

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large quantities. And then he ends up

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sort of dying alone, poisoning himself.

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And this is what we turn into movies.

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And if we want to understand why people

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are so into this, we got to understand

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the basic problem that human beings face

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in today's world. We no longer have the

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capacity for self-determination. So the

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world on a macroscopic level, there's

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inflation, there's war, there's the

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existential threat of AI. I recently

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talked to a buddy of mine who's uh in a

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PhD or teaches in a PhD program and she

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was telling me how hard it is for like

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new PhD graduates to find entry-level

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jobs because they're all being taken by

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AI. So we're like fundamentally like

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losing control. And it's not just the

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macroscopic forces. This is also a

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situation where I've worked with so many

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people who can't even control

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themselves. Their day-to-day experience

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of life is there are so many things that

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I know would be good for me that have a

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high probability of success. If I just

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did this, everything would be great.

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Simplest example of this is emailing my

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professor just to let them know, hey, I

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won't be able to turn in my paper on

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time. Can I have an extension? It's like

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30 seconds of work. And yet, even though

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there's so much stuff that we could do

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that would be good for us, we cannot

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bring ourselves to do it. Q dopamine

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addiction, social media addiction, video

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game addiction, porn porn addiction,

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take your pick. And so what we see with

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this nihilistic penguin is exactly what

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we wish we could do. The penguin is

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faced with a situation where there is no

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chance of success, no chance of

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survival, and yet it is able to muster

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up the energy to give everything that

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it's got for some impossible task. And

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this is the basic thing that I see in

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the majority of people today is like

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they just can't give life their effort,

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right? This idea of like give me liberty

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or give me death. Going allin, giving

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everything you've got. this thing that

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we love as human beings, this this thing

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that we respect as human beings, like

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the ultimate respect that we give human

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beings are people who give it their all.

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And I can't even give it 25%. And when

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people watch this video, like the

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comments are like, "This penguin may not

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survive, but he'll certainly live." Ah,

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what nobility. And then here's what's

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really scary about this is like when we

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look at this penguin, a lot of people

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will say like, "There's no purpose.

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There's no triumph of the human spirit

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or the penguin spirit. This is just like

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a biological error. Like there's nothing

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going on here. That like the brain is

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malfunctioning. The penguin is running

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towards the mountains. It'll certainly

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die there. There's like no chance of

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survival. It's not accomplished

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anything. Like this triumph of the

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penguin spirit is just a bug. And

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there's actually good like scientific

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evidence to support this. Not just in

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penguins, but in humans as well. And

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then we get to this really scary thought

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because here we are as human beings

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striving for meaning and striving for

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purpose. But there's a lot of biological

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evidence that this crap doesn't exist.

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psychology, but in something called

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terror management theory. So, here's

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basically what terror management theory

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says. So as living organisms we have one

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goal which is survival. There's also one

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thing that is guaranteed when an

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organism becomes born in the world which

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is that it is going to die. So

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everything in our wiring is wired to

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survive. Death is inevitable. Now this

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is not a problem for most organisms. If

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I'm a bacteria I have no sense of my

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mortality. If I'm a frog, if I'm a deer,

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if I'm a lion, we have really no

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evidence that primates or lions or any

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kinds of organisms are aware that they

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will die one day except for humans

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because we as humans are different. We

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know that we're going to die, right? We

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have we've reached this cognitive

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plateau which creates a problem because

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here we are wired to survive, but we

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have the knowledge of certain death. So,

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how does an organism fix this

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fundamentally irreconcilable thing? And

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that's where terror management theory

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comes in. What terror management theory

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says is that we're human beings. We all

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are afraid of death. So organisms are

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wired for survival and all organisms

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die. So this is not a problem if you're

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like an amoeba. It's not a problem if

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you're a frog because frogs don't have a

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clear sense of their mortality. The

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problem is when you achieve a certain

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cognitive layer, a cognitive capability,

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you're wired for survival and you know

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you're going to die. So, how does our

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biology

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reconcile that we're wired to survive

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and we're definitely going to die? So,

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the main goal, the main game we are

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trying to win, we will definitely lose.

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And that's where terror management

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theory basically says that the way that

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our we reconcile this fear of death is

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by like inventing

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some sense of like immortality. The

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sense of meaning and purpose and

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self-esteem and all of these like good

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things in life. All of these triumphs of

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the human spirit are basically

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biological copium to reconcile against

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this idea of death. We've evolved the

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delusion of purpose to keep the terror

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of our certain death, which is like runs

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contrary to our basic instincts of

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survival at bay. And this is what I

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think is so scary about the nihilistic

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penguin is like all of us are sort of

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sitting in this situation where we wish

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we could be doing more. We want to live

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life more. We want to find purpose. We

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want to find meaning. But then on the

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flip side, there is so much evidence.

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There's no proof of life after death.

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There's no proof of the existence of

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God. Maybe there is. You can leave a

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comment if you want. Right? We don't

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know if we're all like all we have proof

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of is that we're like sacks of meat with

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electrical activity in this particular

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skull that gives us a sense of purpose

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and meaning. And then we're kind of

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stuck because it's like do I live life?

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Do I look for meaning? Do I look for

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purpose? Or is it all a scam? And this

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is what's so scary is that the thing

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that we strive for could be a biological

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delusion. So how do we resolve this?

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What many people will say is like, oh,

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like life is a journey and you have to

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like figure out for yourself, which is

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like sort of a great answer, but

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honestly, it's a really crappy answer.

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It's it's sort of like a non-answer.

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There is no answer. You have to figure

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it out for yourself. Like, you know,

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reminds me of the the hand clapping meme

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when someone is drowning where it's

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like, okay, you have to figure it out

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yourself, but how do you figure it out?

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And this is where I don't have any

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profound guidance. I'm not like

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enlightened or divine or anything like

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that. The best that I can give you is

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sort of my take on this. So my parents,

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you know, raised me in a religious kind

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of household, kind of culturally

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religious. I would go to temple and

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things like that, but I didn't really

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like believe this stuff. I remember

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going to a summer camp when I was like

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14 years old that my mom really wanted

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me to go to for this religious

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organization. I would people would say

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these things about God and you know this

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is what you should do and reincarnation

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and I was like where's your proof, bro?

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I started asking questions and I didn't

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get any sufficient answers and I was

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like okay like these people don't know

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what they're talking about. I was

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basically an atheist and then I went to

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India and I started studying meditation

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and originally the reason I studied

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meditation was not about spirituality.

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It was like okay I'm going to focus on

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the neuroscience. I'm going to focus on

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improving my physiology, gaining

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willpower. I wanted observable benefits

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in the real world through meditation. So

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that's why I moved away from Reiki and

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started to move towards other kinds of

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meditation which are scientifically

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valid because I didn't believe any of

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this crap. And then as I started to

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meditate, I started to have these weird

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spiritual experiences. And I'll just

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share one with you that I don't know if

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I've talked about before, but the first

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time I got an interview for medical

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school and I went home and I meditated

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and then I prayed, which is not

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something that I do usually. So I prayed

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and I was like, "Please, universe, God,

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whatever, whatever the [ __ ] is out

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there. Please let me get accepted to

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medical school. I've been trying really

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hard. I don't know if it's going to work

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or not. My GPA sucks. Please, please,

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please, please, please let me get

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accepted to medical school." And then I

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had something called a knowing. So this

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is something that I I don't talk about

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publicly, but I talk about with my

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patients sometimes, which is like

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sometimes when you meditate, you know

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things. So it's not a belief. It's not

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an understanding. It's not even an aha

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moment. The best word I can use to

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describe it is a knowing. Maybe you've

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experienced it and you kind of know what

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I'm talking about. If you haven't, it

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sounds like kooky, right? So I just knew

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like it's not like a voice like I didn't

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hear something. I knew that I would not

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get accepted that year and I knew that

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it would take me two more years. And it

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was like I knew that I had to go through

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this and that it was like the price that

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I had to pay, but it was also kind of

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reassuring because it was like I knew

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that things were going to work out in

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the end, but there would be a lot of

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pain that was necessary to get me to

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where I want to go. And I was sitting

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there meditating and I had this profound

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experience of knowing I started crying

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and I felt both loved and I felt a lot

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of pity towards myself. Since that

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moment, I've really appreciated this

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part in the Bible in the Garden of

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Gethsemane where Jesus says, "Please

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Lord, let this cup pass from me to like

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somebody else. Like, I don't want to do

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do this. If there's any way that you can

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give me a pass, please let me know." And

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that's something that really resonates

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with me to this day. So, when you

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meditate and you do this kind of stuff,

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like weird stuff happens. And then I was

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in a then I had a problem because I was

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like, "What the hell is that?" Right? Is

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this a delusion? Is this some kind of

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psychological copium? what's going on

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here? And this explains like why I read

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all of this stuff, right? So, I have

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this paper on terror management theory.

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I read a bunch of other papers about the

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nature of nihilism and human meaning and

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human existence and psychology and

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neuroscience and all this kind of crap

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because I'm looking for answers. So,

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I've read probably about 3,000

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peer-reviewed publications since I

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started Healthy Gamer looking for

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answers. And so through a series of 20

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years of meditative experiences and

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getting married and having kids, I kind

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of found purpose, believed in dharma,

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believed in karma, karma and all this

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stuff. And I was like, great, I figured

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it out. Now here's the really scary

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thing. I'm sliding back towards atheism

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and I got dragged into not theism, but

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the idea that there is more in this

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world than is materially v visible. So I

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had enough experiences and they kept

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happening once every like 2 or 3 years

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or so. That was really profound. And

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when this happens to you for 20 years

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and you get like hit with these things,

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like you you get dragged into believing

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there is more. The really scary thing is

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over the last year or two, I'm being

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dragged in the opposite direction. As I

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learn more about biology, as I learn

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more about neuroscience, as I learn more

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about psychology, about things like

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adaptive misbelief, I'm starting to

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really wonder whether all of the stuff

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that I learned is just delusions in my

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brain that I've been evolved. The

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biology of my system is designed to give

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me copium, is designed to give me

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something called adaptive misbelief,

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which are things that are not true but

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are adaptive for for the organism. So,

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is all of this stuff that I experienced

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real or is it just the highest level of

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copium?

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I don't know. At the end of the day,

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it's incredibly fascinating. But I don't

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know. And I think this is where y'all

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have to tell us, right? So, do you think

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this is something noble? Do you think

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that there's some kind of atma or soul

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that is inhabited the penguin? That the

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penguin is exploring the frontiers of

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its environment just like human beings

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did when they were like thousands of

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years ago. Or is it all just a

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biological malfunction?

Interactive Summary

The video discusses the concept of the "nihilistic penguin" as a metaphor for the human struggle with meaning and purpose in a world dominated by external forces and internal weaknesses. The speaker contrasts the penguin's seemingly noble, albeit futile, journey towards the mountains with the "epic failure" of individuals like in "Into the Wild." The core problem identified is a lack of self-determination, stemming from both macroscopic societal issues (inflation, war, AI) and personal struggles (addiction, inability to perform simple tasks). The video delves into Terror Management Theory, suggesting that human concepts of meaning, purpose, and self-esteem are psychological coping mechanisms to deal with the awareness of mortality. The speaker shares personal experiences with meditation and spiritual "knowings," questioning whether these are genuine insights or simply biological "copium" or "adaptive misbelief." Ultimately, the video concludes with an open question about whether the penguin's actions are a noble pursuit or a biological malfunction, leaving the audience to ponder the nature of meaning and existence.

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