What is wrong with us?!
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This is going to be kind of a a weird
video that I'm going to record. Uh
because normally I guess I get up here
and I yap a bunch about a topic, but
this time I'm gonna yap a bunch about a
topic, but it's going to be more yappy.
Okay, a bit more serious. I'm in my
serious phase right now. Okay, so you
got to just let me have it. It's about
this growing trend that I'm seeing
especially among developers. I'm sure it
exists elsewhere, but it just seems to
be I guess most poignant among us and
among the software/ kind of nerd nerd
adjacent crowd. And I guess one of the
best ways to talk about it is to kind of
talk about some of my younger years of
programming. And it doesn't matter how
much experience you have, there's
eventually going to be a part in a
project in which just has some level of
confusion, some weird bug that's just
really difficult to sus out and it could
just end up taking a significant portion
of time. It's as true today as it's ever
been true. And one of the things I used
to do is I would stop programming for
like 15 minutes and go take a shower.
just go and try not to think about
anything. Cuz often by thinking about
nothing, somehow I could just feel this
like kind of buzz going on in the back
of my head and I would just come up with
the solution. I go, "Oh my gosh, I know
what it is." Right? Like halfway through
it's like I know kung fu right in the
middle of the shower. And this always
felt like a super like special skill.
This felt like my superhero kind of
moment. And one of the dangerous parts
about having that type of skill, I would
have a like hard time disconnecting.
It's not that I was actively thinking
about it, but I could just feel, you
know, the intensity behind my ears just
going and I'd go and I'd have dinner
with my wife or be with my friends and I
would kind of not feel as engaged in the
conversation because deep down I know I
was just kind of swirling. And I'm sure
if you've been programming long enough,
you know that exact feeling. But now
there's a new version of it or at least
what I'm considering some sort of a
version of the exact same thing. And I
came across this article. It's called
Token Anxiety and it's kind of
describing the life that is in San
Francisco. If you've never been in the
Bay Area, if you've never lived in the
city, uh, one kind of really, I guess,
interesting thing about it is when I
first arrived there in 2013, I remember
one of my first experiences being just
so much different than my experiences in
Montana. Cuz in Montana, I often would
just meet people and I just talk to them
about life. We, you know, what are you
doing? Where are you hiking? Where are
you going? What are you working on? as
in like what what do you do around here?
And then more important topics like hey,
how are you handling handling these life
situations and stuff like that? But when
I went to the bay, it was just such a
different experience in 2013. It was
what are we working on? What are you
building? Hey, this is where my
company's at. This is what we're like
kind of really struggling with. This is
where we're actually thinking we're
going. And there was just kind of this
energy, this excitement about everything
where it felt like everybody was on the
precipice of making the next big thing,
the next Jeff Bezos, the next Mark
Zuckerberg. there was still this like
weird raw feeling of opportunity. And by
the time I left the Bay Area in 2020, I
didn't feel that as much. Maybe it was
due to like the insulation of working at
Netflix versus actually being out there
more in the startup scene having a bunch
of kids and just no longer going out.
But nonetheless, it just didn't quite
feel the same by the time CO hit. But
this new way that these kids are living
just it just feels difficult. Here, look
at this. A friend left a party at 9:30
on Saturday. not tired, not sick. He
wanted to get back to his agents. Nobody
questions it anymore. Half the room is
thinking the same thing. The other half
is probably checking on the progress of
their agents at the party. It's almost
like that busyiness, that kind of like
fuzzing of the brain that I used to
experience every now and then when I'd
get onto a really difficult problem I
wanted to solve is just now a perpetual
non-stop vibration in the back of
everybody's head. Because for me to kind
of fall into that state, I had to kind
of have the challenge show up. Whereas
now it's about the machines and the
machines being on and the machines
running. And so now it's about how big
the checklist can be, how big the
prompts can be, how big the harness and
testing can be to make sure that your
agents are just always spinning. All
these parties are sober now. Young
people don't drink because they're going
back to work after. Not inspired by
Brian Johnson and his Titanic level
erections, although that's probably a
factor. The buzz they want now runs on
tokens per day. You can see this with
the CEO of Y Commonator. He just made
this tweet today. I'm giving up drinking
because of clawed code. I need my brain
to be maximally pristine so I can sling
10,000 lines of code a day. It almost
feels like there's been this weird
dramatic shift. It's like the Bay Area
at one point felt like this weird kind
of opportunistic place. Like, dude,
there's so much opportunity here. You
got to come here. You got to try this.
And now it's almost like I'm watching
people and I'm watching kind of like an
inverse of it, which is, oh, I better
keep working. I better keep working
because if I don't, it's escaping. And
it almost feels like this desperation.
It just feels backwards or different.
And some of my friends that I still know
that are in this Bay Area, it's just
like I I feel something different kind
of landing on them. It just feels like a
different kind of haze or malaise or
just some sort of like this weird spirit
of just like downward pressure. The
anxiety is rational, which is why it
sticks. Every week, some new benchmark
drops that makes last month's workflow
feel prehistoric. Codec ships overnight
processing. Opus gets faster. Context
windows double. None of this reduces the
pressure. It multiplies it. You can do
more now and someone already is. The
window to being first at anything feels
like it's shrinking by the day.
Literally by the day. I replace Netflix
with clawed code. I lie in bed thinking
about what I can spin up before I fall
asleep. What can I run while I'm
unconscious? Reading a novel feels
indulgent now. Watching movie without a
laptop open feels wasteful. This voice
in my head says something could be
running right now. Just doesn't shut
off. I'm not even building a company.
I'm just addicted to building my random
ideas. It just feels sad. You know, when
I read that, it does feel sad. That is a
bad state to be in. And that part about
pressure just never going down, but it's
always being multiplied. I really feel
like I can understand that. So, one
thing I've been doing is I'm I'm trying
to understand this this vibe coding
world because I have this like extreme
revulsion at the code these machines
make and I constantly keep on running it
with more and more guard rails really
trying to understand what people want
out of it and all the success you see on
Twitter of people talking about how
they're building everything yet I've
never really produced code that I'm
happy with. It always requires me to go
in and do a bunch of stuff on top of it.
But I'm still I'm committed to figuring
out these things. Something I started
doing is actually start building a bunch
of vibecoded programs. It's how I
control my stream. The Twitch chat that
inevitably shows up right here. That is
just a vibe coded thing. I wanted to be
able to control my OBS much, much
better. This thing right here is how I
go in and I just get whatever memes I
want. Right? If I come in here and I
want to see Sam holding hands, boom, I
got it right there. That feels
fantastic, right? And I can also go and
get the original video right here. Long
as I have all these things documented.
Also, yes, that was Sam in not one but
two polos.
And so, I started doing this to myself
cuz I really wanted to kind of
understand this other side of things.
And as I was building it, something
unique happened to me during the times
when I was just hand coding. I was like,
dude, I could did it's just so much
faster to vibe code, but the code it
produces is something I I I hate. And
so, I found this weird like world I was
standing in. I felt like uh the house of
the rising sun. and I had one foot on
the station and one foot on the train or
trad coding. I'm I feel like I'm missing
out on something. Like, oh, I better
just kick off a quick agent. And I just
felt this like running weird buzzing
kind of evolving inside of me as well
because there's so many things I need to
build just for this YouTube
empire/streaming empire that ultimately
makes my work easier. And it's not a I'm
not trying to get rich off these tools.
I'm not trying to sell the tools. I'm
really just trying to use the tools for
me and my videos and my video editor.
Yet, after just a couple days of having
these things going, the ideas keep
kicking off cuz they're so easy to kind
of get the MVP out, but the work just
kept growing. And that's kind of like
this weird Fouian bargain of the whole
thing. As you begin, the idea is really
simple. You can describe it in a few
words. You could get like the rough
edges up. And each one of those fixes
require more prompting, more waiting,
and the cycle is really, really long.
It's worse than a Rust compile cycle.
it's very very long and then all a
sudden you start having multiple of them
going and you can no longer focus on
whatever you were working on with
something running in the background.
It's because you're constantly having to
babysit these small little steps and you
have so many little things you want to
kind of type up and attempt to explain
in English to fix. And because you can
run that fast, all of a sudden you find
yourself being able to have that many
different things running. And so it's
almost like I'm not really accomplishing
the things I want to accomplish, but I'm
building more than I've ever built in my
life. Yeah, 10,000 lines of code in a
day. Easy peasy. But that doesn't mean
those 10,000 lines in in a in a day were
any good. It doesn't mean I feel
satisfied afterwards, it doesn't even
mean I built the right thing. And I
think the worst part about all of this
is that what I'm discovering is that all
these ideas that flow through your head,
one thing that kind of made it really
nice in the before land is that you
couldn't try out all the ideas. You kind
of really had to be very selective. You
had to pick one. But now I can have
three or four of them spinning all at
the exact same time. All of them in the
most crappy versions of themselves and
the work growing at an exponential rate.
It's almost like the programming part
was never the problem. The problem was
solving the right problem. And so now
even I after forcing myself into this
life, I feel that same anxiety. I can
feel what the author is talking about
when he talks about this desire to go
back. The desire to leave the party at
9:30. The desire not to have any
alcoholic beverages, not because of
Brian Johnson's Titanic erections, but
because I want to make sure I'm sharp
and ready, that I can wake up at 5 in
the morning and I better be able to hop
to it. That one drink that could prevent
me from being able to do that. That one
drink could prevent my productivity from
being higher. I just wanted to yap about
this because I saw this article and it
just made me feel really bad because at
the end of the day, I know that there's
a lot of people that are just constantly
spinning and constantly attempting to do
things and constantly trying to to like
formulate all of their ideas and they
have so much stuff running, but they
literally have nothing to show for it.
and they're spending like some there are
people in the Bay that are spending
$1,000 a day on tokens and they're
living their life just jumping from
every last little thing. The work is
multiplying, the task juggling is
getting out of control. The productivity
is through the roof, yet nothing
really happens. So, if I could give you
any advice, it'd be the same advice I'd
give myself, which is 2009, 2010. I
ended up trying to make my own startup
to kind of pursue that Silicon Valley
dream life. And I ended up just working
non-stop all the time. I spent multiple
evenings staying through the entire
night just programming non-stop and my
Net Beans editor making PHP amazing.
Yes, everything I just said there was
true. This is before my Vim days, okay?
So, give me a break. I can tell you that
it it impacted how I hung out with my
friends. I felt this uh in some sense an
anxiousness to get back home, to keep on
making features. It kind of impacted my
relationship with my wife and I just
constantly had this non-stop pursuit in
trying to produce something and I've
always kind of had this. So, am I in any
surprise that these agents are
resurrecting an old feeling in me? No,
I'm not. But I can tell you the piece of
advice I'd give myself back then and the
piece of advice that I'm even giving
myself now and hopefully to you, which
is that one extra feature in your
calendar app,
it's not worth skipping out on some good
times with your friends. Hard work got
me to where I am now, but it is not who
I am. Anyways, I just want I I just
wanted to yap about that. I wanted to
get some things off my chest. Okay.
Sometimes I use YouTube as just a means
to express the feelings that I have and
I'm not really sure if that was coherent
or not. I just kind of turned on the cam
and just gapperated for a while about
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The video discusses a growing trend, particularly among developers, of 'token anxiety' – a state of perpetual busyness and pressure to constantly work, often driven by the rapid advancements in AI and a fear of falling behind. The speaker contrasts this with a past experience in the Bay Area where the energy was about opportunity and building the next big thing. Now, the focus has shifted to an almost desperate need to keep agents running, maximize daily output (e.g., '10,000 lines of code a day'), and a feeling that even leisure activities like reading or watching a movie are wasteful if not accompanied by some form of productive work. This has led to a decline in social activities and an all-encompassing anxiety about not doing enough, even when not explicitly building a company. The speaker reflects on their own past experiences with intense work habits and offers advice to prioritize real-life experiences over the endless pursuit of productivity, emphasizing that hard work is a means, not an identity.
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