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This is going to be kind of a a weird

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video that I'm going to record. Uh

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because normally I guess I get up here

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and I yap a bunch about a topic, but

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this time I'm gonna yap a bunch about a

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topic, but it's going to be more yappy.

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Okay, a bit more serious. I'm in my

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serious phase right now. Okay, so you

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got to just let me have it. It's about

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this growing trend that I'm seeing

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especially among developers. I'm sure it

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exists elsewhere, but it just seems to

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be I guess most poignant among us and

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among the software/ kind of nerd nerd

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adjacent crowd. And I guess one of the

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best ways to talk about it is to kind of

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talk about some of my younger years of

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programming. And it doesn't matter how

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much experience you have, there's

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eventually going to be a part in a

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project in which just has some level of

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confusion, some weird bug that's just

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really difficult to sus out and it could

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just end up taking a significant portion

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of time. It's as true today as it's ever

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been true. And one of the things I used

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to do is I would stop programming for

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like 15 minutes and go take a shower.

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just go and try not to think about

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anything. Cuz often by thinking about

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nothing, somehow I could just feel this

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like kind of buzz going on in the back

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of my head and I would just come up with

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the solution. I go, "Oh my gosh, I know

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what it is." Right? Like halfway through

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it's like I know kung fu right in the

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middle of the shower. And this always

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felt like a super like special skill.

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This felt like my superhero kind of

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moment. And one of the dangerous parts

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about having that type of skill, I would

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have a like hard time disconnecting.

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It's not that I was actively thinking

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about it, but I could just feel, you

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know, the intensity behind my ears just

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going and I'd go and I'd have dinner

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with my wife or be with my friends and I

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would kind of not feel as engaged in the

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conversation because deep down I know I

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was just kind of swirling. And I'm sure

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if you've been programming long enough,

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you know that exact feeling. But now

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there's a new version of it or at least

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what I'm considering some sort of a

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version of the exact same thing. And I

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came across this article. It's called

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Token Anxiety and it's kind of

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describing the life that is in San

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Francisco. If you've never been in the

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Bay Area, if you've never lived in the

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city, uh, one kind of really, I guess,

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interesting thing about it is when I

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first arrived there in 2013, I remember

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one of my first experiences being just

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so much different than my experiences in

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Montana. Cuz in Montana, I often would

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just meet people and I just talk to them

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about life. We, you know, what are you

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doing? Where are you hiking? Where are

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you going? What are you working on? as

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in like what what do you do around here?

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And then more important topics like hey,

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how are you handling handling these life

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situations and stuff like that? But when

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I went to the bay, it was just such a

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different experience in 2013. It was

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what are we working on? What are you

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building? Hey, this is where my

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company's at. This is what we're like

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kind of really struggling with. This is

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where we're actually thinking we're

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going. And there was just kind of this

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energy, this excitement about everything

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where it felt like everybody was on the

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precipice of making the next big thing,

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the next Jeff Bezos, the next Mark

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Zuckerberg. there was still this like

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weird raw feeling of opportunity. And by

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the time I left the Bay Area in 2020, I

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didn't feel that as much. Maybe it was

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due to like the insulation of working at

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Netflix versus actually being out there

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more in the startup scene having a bunch

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of kids and just no longer going out.

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But nonetheless, it just didn't quite

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feel the same by the time CO hit. But

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this new way that these kids are living

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just it just feels difficult. Here, look

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at this. A friend left a party at 9:30

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on Saturday. not tired, not sick. He

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wanted to get back to his agents. Nobody

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questions it anymore. Half the room is

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thinking the same thing. The other half

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is probably checking on the progress of

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their agents at the party. It's almost

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like that busyiness, that kind of like

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fuzzing of the brain that I used to

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experience every now and then when I'd

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get onto a really difficult problem I

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wanted to solve is just now a perpetual

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non-stop vibration in the back of

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everybody's head. Because for me to kind

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of fall into that state, I had to kind

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of have the challenge show up. Whereas

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now it's about the machines and the

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machines being on and the machines

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running. And so now it's about how big

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the checklist can be, how big the

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prompts can be, how big the harness and

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testing can be to make sure that your

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agents are just always spinning. All

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these parties are sober now. Young

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people don't drink because they're going

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back to work after. Not inspired by

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Brian Johnson and his Titanic level

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erections, although that's probably a

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factor. The buzz they want now runs on

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tokens per day. You can see this with

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the CEO of Y Commonator. He just made

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this tweet today. I'm giving up drinking

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because of clawed code. I need my brain

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to be maximally pristine so I can sling

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10,000 lines of code a day. It almost

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feels like there's been this weird

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dramatic shift. It's like the Bay Area

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at one point felt like this weird kind

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of opportunistic place. Like, dude,

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there's so much opportunity here. You

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got to come here. You got to try this.

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And now it's almost like I'm watching

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people and I'm watching kind of like an

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inverse of it, which is, oh, I better

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keep working. I better keep working

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because if I don't, it's escaping. And

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it almost feels like this desperation.

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It just feels backwards or different.

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And some of my friends that I still know

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that are in this Bay Area, it's just

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like I I feel something different kind

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of landing on them. It just feels like a

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different kind of haze or malaise or

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just some sort of like this weird spirit

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of just like downward pressure. The

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anxiety is rational, which is why it

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sticks. Every week, some new benchmark

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drops that makes last month's workflow

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feel prehistoric. Codec ships overnight

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processing. Opus gets faster. Context

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windows double. None of this reduces the

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pressure. It multiplies it. You can do

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more now and someone already is. The

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window to being first at anything feels

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like it's shrinking by the day.

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Literally by the day. I replace Netflix

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with clawed code. I lie in bed thinking

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about what I can spin up before I fall

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asleep. What can I run while I'm

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unconscious? Reading a novel feels

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indulgent now. Watching movie without a

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laptop open feels wasteful. This voice

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in my head says something could be

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running right now. Just doesn't shut

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off. I'm not even building a company.

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I'm just addicted to building my random

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ideas. It just feels sad. You know, when

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I read that, it does feel sad. That is a

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bad state to be in. And that part about

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pressure just never going down, but it's

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always being multiplied. I really feel

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like I can understand that. So, one

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thing I've been doing is I'm I'm trying

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to understand this this vibe coding

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world because I have this like extreme

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revulsion at the code these machines

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make and I constantly keep on running it

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with more and more guard rails really

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trying to understand what people want

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out of it and all the success you see on

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Twitter of people talking about how

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they're building everything yet I've

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never really produced code that I'm

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happy with. It always requires me to go

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in and do a bunch of stuff on top of it.

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But I'm still I'm committed to figuring

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out these things. Something I started

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doing is actually start building a bunch

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of vibecoded programs. It's how I

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control my stream. The Twitch chat that

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inevitably shows up right here. That is

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just a vibe coded thing. I wanted to be

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able to control my OBS much, much

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better. This thing right here is how I

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go in and I just get whatever memes I

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want. Right? If I come in here and I

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want to see Sam holding hands, boom, I

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got it right there. That feels

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fantastic, right? And I can also go and

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get the original video right here. Long

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as I have all these things documented.

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Also, yes, that was Sam in not one but

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two polos.

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And so, I started doing this to myself

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cuz I really wanted to kind of

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understand this other side of things.

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And as I was building it, something

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unique happened to me during the times

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when I was just hand coding. I was like,

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dude, I could did it's just so much

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faster to vibe code, but the code it

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produces is something I I I hate. And

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so, I found this weird like world I was

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standing in. I felt like uh the house of

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the rising sun. and I had one foot on

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the station and one foot on the train or

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trad coding. I'm I feel like I'm missing

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out on something. Like, oh, I better

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just kick off a quick agent. And I just

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felt this like running weird buzzing

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kind of evolving inside of me as well

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because there's so many things I need to

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build just for this YouTube

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empire/streaming empire that ultimately

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makes my work easier. And it's not a I'm

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not trying to get rich off these tools.

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I'm not trying to sell the tools. I'm

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really just trying to use the tools for

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me and my videos and my video editor.

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Yet, after just a couple days of having

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these things going, the ideas keep

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kicking off cuz they're so easy to kind

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of get the MVP out, but the work just

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kept growing. And that's kind of like

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this weird Fouian bargain of the whole

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thing. As you begin, the idea is really

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simple. You can describe it in a few

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words. You could get like the rough

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edges up. And each one of those fixes

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require more prompting, more waiting,

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and the cycle is really, really long.

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It's worse than a Rust compile cycle.

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it's very very long and then all a

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sudden you start having multiple of them

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going and you can no longer focus on

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whatever you were working on with

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something running in the background.

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It's because you're constantly having to

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babysit these small little steps and you

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have so many little things you want to

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kind of type up and attempt to explain

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in English to fix. And because you can

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run that fast, all of a sudden you find

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yourself being able to have that many

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different things running. And so it's

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almost like I'm not really accomplishing

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the things I want to accomplish, but I'm

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building more than I've ever built in my

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life. Yeah, 10,000 lines of code in a

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day. Easy peasy. But that doesn't mean

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those 10,000 lines in in a in a day were

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any good. It doesn't mean I feel

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satisfied afterwards, it doesn't even

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mean I built the right thing. And I

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think the worst part about all of this

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is that what I'm discovering is that all

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these ideas that flow through your head,

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one thing that kind of made it really

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nice in the before land is that you

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couldn't try out all the ideas. You kind

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of really had to be very selective. You

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had to pick one. But now I can have

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three or four of them spinning all at

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the exact same time. All of them in the

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most crappy versions of themselves and

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the work growing at an exponential rate.

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It's almost like the programming part

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was never the problem. The problem was

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solving the right problem. And so now

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even I after forcing myself into this

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life, I feel that same anxiety. I can

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feel what the author is talking about

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when he talks about this desire to go

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back. The desire to leave the party at

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9:30. The desire not to have any

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alcoholic beverages, not because of

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Brian Johnson's Titanic erections, but

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because I want to make sure I'm sharp

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and ready, that I can wake up at 5 in

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the morning and I better be able to hop

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to it. That one drink that could prevent

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me from being able to do that. That one

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drink could prevent my productivity from

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being higher. I just wanted to yap about

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this because I saw this article and it

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just made me feel really bad because at

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the end of the day, I know that there's

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a lot of people that are just constantly

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spinning and constantly attempting to do

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things and constantly trying to to like

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formulate all of their ideas and they

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have so much stuff running, but they

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literally have nothing to show for it.

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and they're spending like some there are

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people in the Bay that are spending

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$1,000 a day on tokens and they're

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living their life just jumping from

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every last little thing. The work is

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multiplying, the task juggling is

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getting out of control. The productivity

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is through the roof, yet nothing

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really happens. So, if I could give you

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any advice, it'd be the same advice I'd

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give myself, which is 2009, 2010. I

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ended up trying to make my own startup

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to kind of pursue that Silicon Valley

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dream life. And I ended up just working

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non-stop all the time. I spent multiple

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evenings staying through the entire

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night just programming non-stop and my

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Net Beans editor making PHP amazing.

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Yes, everything I just said there was

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true. This is before my Vim days, okay?

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So, give me a break. I can tell you that

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it it impacted how I hung out with my

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friends. I felt this uh in some sense an

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anxiousness to get back home, to keep on

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making features. It kind of impacted my

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relationship with my wife and I just

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constantly had this non-stop pursuit in

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trying to produce something and I've

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always kind of had this. So, am I in any

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surprise that these agents are

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resurrecting an old feeling in me? No,

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I'm not. But I can tell you the piece of

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advice I'd give myself back then and the

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piece of advice that I'm even giving

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myself now and hopefully to you, which

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is that one extra feature in your

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calendar app,

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it's not worth skipping out on some good

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times with your friends. Hard work got

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me to where I am now, but it is not who

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I am. Anyways, I just want I I just

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wanted to yap about that. I wanted to

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get some things off my chest. Okay.

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Sometimes I use YouTube as just a means

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to express the feelings that I have and

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I'm not really sure if that was coherent

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or not. I just kind of turned on the cam

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and just gapperated for a while about

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Interactive Summary

The video discusses a growing trend, particularly among developers, of 'token anxiety' – a state of perpetual busyness and pressure to constantly work, often driven by the rapid advancements in AI and a fear of falling behind. The speaker contrasts this with a past experience in the Bay Area where the energy was about opportunity and building the next big thing. Now, the focus has shifted to an almost desperate need to keep agents running, maximize daily output (e.g., '10,000 lines of code a day'), and a feeling that even leisure activities like reading or watching a movie are wasteful if not accompanied by some form of productive work. This has led to a decline in social activities and an all-encompassing anxiety about not doing enough, even when not explicitly building a company. The speaker reflects on their own past experiences with intense work habits and offers advice to prioritize real-life experiences over the endless pursuit of productivity, emphasizing that hard work is a means, not an identity.

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