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>> WE were just talking and I told to get

off. I told Ro, save this for the air

cuz Ro years ago. [ __ ] this had to be

like at least 10 years ago. 20 years

ago,

>> that was like 2006, 2007.

>> Crazy. So 20 years ago, Ro calls me up

and he says, "Tommy Lee wants to meet

you. He wants to talk to you about

something." I go, "Okay, sure." So we go

to see his concert. That was when he was

at Rock and Roll Supernov.

That's right.

>> So you had a TV show in Long Beach,

>> right? Right. It was You and Eddie came.

>> Me and Eddie Bravo came. And then uh

afterwards, first of all, Tommy Lee has

the dopest green room. Like he sets his

green room up like a [ __ ] after hours

party. He's got like tapestries on the

wall and candles and lights. Yeah. You

walk in like damn. Like he doesn't.

>> Yeah. He doesn't just walk into a cold

green room like I'm lazy. If I go on the

road, I just what what's your green

room? I'll go hang out in there. It's

like it doesn't just walk. But he has it

set up like everywhere is like calm and

relaxing and spiritual. And uh so I meet

Tommy and Tommy wants a fight kid rock

in the UFC.

>> THIS

IS THIS is true.

>> What makes people think they can do

this?

>> It's for Pam Anderson's heart.

>> Yeah. This is how this is kind of how it

started. That was that way with Pam.

>> Yeah.

>> Like you know they both were married to

her. So

>> Tommy and her always going to be

connected because of the kids. So, she

had split up with Kid Rock and Kid Rock

was emailing her, texting her, I guess,

you know, still trying to get with her.

Tommy is with her, not together, but you

know, they were together that day. And

he she asked him, you know, you're

friends with him. Can you call him and

tell him to stop calling me and [ __ ]

And Tommy's like, I don't want to get in

the middle of that [ __ ]

>> boy.

>> And she's like, you know, if you know,

please. So he winds up hitting, you

know, him up and like, "Look, dude, you

know, I don't really want to make this

call, blah, blah, blah." Of course, Kid

Rock took the heat. [ __ ] you. You know,

blah blah. So they're [ __ ] each other

back and forth. Goes away.

Now, there was some MTV Awards thing,

>> okay?

>> And uh actually, let me back up first.

We were in Vegas for a New Year's thing

and there was this rumor that Kid Rock

was supposed to come with his bodyguard

and like and come to Tommy's room and

attack.

>> So me, my man Kimmo, who you know as

well, um you know, we're sleeping in

Tommy's room hoping they show up and uh

of course they go to a different room.

They do go to a room, kick a door in. I

think totally

>> they actually went looking for him for

real.

>> I don't think they went looking for him.

I think it was a big publicity [ __ ]

they sign some autographs and and they

keep it moving.

>> So I'm saying to Tommy, I go, "Yo,

dude." I go, "Fuck him." I go, "You

should fight him on pay-per-view.

Imagine all the money that we make." I

go, "I'll fight his [ __ ] security

guy. Like, we'll [ __ ] make a whole

thing of it." He goes, "Man, that's

brilliant."

>> Oh my god.

>> So I go, "Uh, I go, you know, I'm

telling you." I said, "You should do." I

said, "Look, either you fight him and

you beat him up or he punks out and you

win either way." And he's like, he's

like, "Yeah, yeah, I like this." So, he

talks to his management. Of course, it

just goes by the wayside. Well, they're

having some MTV awards [ __ ] Security's

not allowed on the floor there. They had

their own like c, you know, it was in a

casino. They have security for it. While

he's sitting in there with Pam, Kid Rock

like comes up kind of behind him and

pokes him and Tommy sees him and he goes

to stand up and Kid Rock suckers him

there.

>> He hit him.

>> Yeah. What?

>> And I'm home. My phone is getting blown

the [ __ ] up. Like, what happened with

Tommy? What happened with Tommy? I'm

like, I don't [ __ ] know. Like, I'm

not with him right now. And uh I get a

call, I swear, like 30 minutes later,

and it's Tommy. And he's going, "Fuck

him." He goes, "I'm done with that

[ __ ] I want to fight him. I'm

gonna [ __ ] fight him now. I go, he

goes, I want you to train me. I go, he

goes, I'm going to move you out. I go,

no, you're moving to me. I go, we're not

going to be out here with all your

little [ __ ] ass kissers. I said, if

you're going to do it, you're really

going to do it.

>> Was he working out at all at the time?

>> No. So, um, you know, the only working

out he does is on the drums, which he

does murder. So, um,

>> that is a little bit of arm condition.

That's like a little punchy back. And I

can show you a picture of him with a

choke on me and it's legit like he he

did train with Hian and he I told you

guys he trained some with Billy Blank.

So

>> Billy Blank was I've talked about this

on the podcast. He was a bad

motherucker.

>> He was a one of those like Raymond

Daniels type karate point fighting

character in the early days.

>> He's a guy. He's a typo guy. But we'll

get to that later.

>> We'll get to that. Props to Billy

Blanks. I bring him in and uh and I he I

told him I said, "Look, we're when we're

going to uh Long Beach." I said, "I know

Rogan. I can have him come in and you

can tell him your idea." And he and he

goes, "All right, all right." So, I

bring Joe and Eddie, they meet him. You

he tells Joe he wants to fight him

literally. And Tommy said his uh

sanctuary was his management company at

the time. I don't know if he still is or

not. So, they call Kid Rock's people

supposedly and offer this [ __ ] fight

on pay-per-view and Kid Rock's people

wound up calling back and basically

turning it down saying whoever loses is

ruined for, you know, for life, I guess,

cuz looking like a [ __ ] cuz they both

had the rock and roll tough guy, you

know, image thing.

>> So, uh, so he said that did he say that

in print?

>> That's literally how it how it stopped.

>> Was that in print? Whoever whoever loses

this is ruined or was that correct?

>> No, no, no. That was the that was the

that was that was supposedly the

response from Kid Rock's management to

Tommy's management.

>> That is correct. He would be correct,

you know.

>> Yeah, but if it's a good fight like a

Stefan Bonn and Forest G.

>> Oh my god.

>> Well, that would be different. Then they

both revolutionary that I kind of forget

who won that fight.

>> Stephan Bonner, Forest Griest won that

fight.

>> I know Forest won, but I kind of forget

because the fight was

>> so good. It was that was one of the most

toss up fights of all time. Like who

[ __ ] knows?

>> Dana did the right thing. He contracted

both. We actually talked about it in the

octagon right before he did it.

>> Wow.

>> Did you really?

>> Yeah. Like you should give both these

[ __ ] a bonus. He's like we're

going to do that. I'm like [ __ ] yeah. It

was amazing.

>> Do you think uh if it wasn't for the

Ultimate Fighter it would have died out?

>> Who knows, man? But it was like

lightning in a bottle because there was

another good fight before that. Diego

Sanchez [ __ ] Kenny Florian up, man. It

was that was a oneway beating,

>> but that was Diego Sanchez coming up.

Like people got to see Diego fight too

many fights. They got to see the later

fights. They forgot what a monster Diego

was in his prime. He was audio animal.

>> Question his grappling. I mean, Marcelo

got him, but you know, he he hung with

one of the best of all time.

>> JustinC. Yeah.

>> Is he was a [ __ ]

Listen, man. You can only get hit so

many times.

>> Agreed. And he was at halfway gone

before taking.

>> Well, he was always like this

open-minded weird thinker. Remember he

had that guy that was training him that

you had a little bit of a

>> What about that loser?

>> Joshua Fabia.

>> Yeah, don't mention his name.

>> That guy was demented, man.

>> Well, he had Diego hanging upside down

like

>> Yeah, the video's insane. The video is

insane. But Diego was like super super

open-minded. like he was willing to

believe in magic. He was, you know what

I'm saying? Like he believed in himself

so much that Diego was like and he was

also like doing weird stuff like he

would chew meat and and spit it out. He

would just chew it down like get all the

juices from it and then spit whatever

was left out. He wouldn't swallow the

meat.

>> But he was fun to watch. He'd come out

[ __ ] animal. He was a [ __ ] animal.

Steve Maxwell trained him for uh the

fight with BJ Penn and got him in insane

shape. But unfortunately, that was the

fight where BJ started. That was when BJ

was training with the Marinoviches.

>> He was leaping out of pools.

>> BJ was unstoppable back then. There was

there was a time where I always say,

watch BJ in his prime. I'll put that

dude up against anybody.

>> BJ Prime.

>> There's no doubt. I always say he's the

best for 55 of all time. He was like in

that in that window, right? in that

window when he beat

>> Matt Hughes prime.

>> Yeah, he was a human Wolverine.

>> Yeah,

>> but you did a lot better with him than I

did.

>> I thought he did. You had a championship

caliber jiu-jitsu,

>> you know what I mean? And a guy like him

relies on jiu-jitsu a lot,

>> you know, and but BJ was just the I was

there's two fights, the Kenny for not

I'm sorry, Sean Sher flight. The Shawn

Sharp fight was prime BJ. Prime BJ. And

then what about

that's another one too. But Diego was

like more highly ranked than Joe. Yeah.

Rick Cow Uno. I mean, he was a beast.

>> Matt, look what he did to Matt Hughes

when he took the title.

>> Yeah, he was a beast.

>> Matt Hughes was just like, you're coming

up to my weight class. You know, that

type of thing.

>> He was a Wolverine.

>> That dude would fight people at 200. He

fought Leota Machita 200 lb. That's

crazy. He was a Wolverine. He did good

for about that

>> [ __ ] animal and did real good. Scary

on the feet.

>> Yeah.

>> A natural 55 who fought as low as 45.

Remember he went down to 45 a while.

>> Bro, BJ was a monster in his prime.

>> He was wellrounded too before guys were

super well-rounded. Like he threw hands

well.

>> And if he just had the will to go

through those Marinovich camps every

fight, he would have been unstoppable.

>> Yeah.

>> He just BJ would, you know, he would

just lose his focus a little bit. I

watched a YouTube documentary about like

the rise and trajectory and then the

later years. It was really well done,

but it was all just talking about how

there's this prime BJ and that's when he

was training with the Marinoviches and

incredible conditioning and he could

just go fight and not worry about his

conditioning.

>> Do you think he it wasn't laziness,

right? What What do you think it was?

>> A lot of friends, a lot of party. He's

the king of the island. He's basically

the king of Hawaii. PJ Ben was the king.

Everywhere he would go, people were

like, "It's PJ." I mean, he was a king

in Vegas, man. He in in those prime

years when he was the champ, he was a

huge star. So, I'm sure he's a huge star

in Hilo. He's probably hanging out with

the boys all the time, having a good

time.

>> Plus, his family like had influence

there, right? They had like money. He

didn't come from poverty. But, it's just

like that it just was real hard to

maintain those kind of camps. Those

camps are insane.

>> He was also super super talented. And so

it's like he didn't have to work as hard

to still beat up people like in

practice.

>> It definitely came easy. His flexibility

and leg dexterity.

>> Oh my goodness.

>> I remember when I fought him and we were

doing a rules meeting. This is the time

where like we could ask questions like

they did everybody in the rules meeting

and I'm in the rules meeting and Frank

Shamrock was in his corner and Frank's

like, "Are we allowed to in guard kick

him in the head from I'm like what the

how the hell?" like he was talking about

his flexibility just wrapping around the

back of my head and kicking me in the

head from there and I was like what the

hell is this guy insane,

>> right? I was like, how the hell is he

going to be able to kick me in the head

from there? But apparently BJ had that

flexibility to be able to do that behind

his head.

>> He could do double lotus without using

his hands.

>> So like sit back and just [ __ ]

completely cotus.

>> Yeah, like interlocked with no hands.

>> That's insane. nuts.

>> His flexibility is bananas. And he

worked on it. It wasn't just like a

natural gift. But how smart was he to

figure out if you could use your legs

like you could use your arms, they're so

much [ __ ] stronger,

>> right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look at

this. There he is.

>> That's nuts, man. You know what I'm

saying? He could put his own [ __ ] leg

behind his head with no hands. That's

crazy flexibility.

>> I'd say he was going to kick you while

you were north south.

>> Yeah.

He going to do that. That is nuts. But

if is that legal? No.

>> There's a lot of goofy rules, right?

Like that's there's a I don't think it

would be cool to stomp people in the

head and soccer kick them. But at least

knees to the head should be okay. I

agree with that because if you're

shooting on a single and you're holding

on to it and your head's right there,

that's a stupid place to be in real

life, right? Let's just real life a real

fight. Why wouldn't the guy kne you in

the head? You're grabbing his knee. If

he's you're you're all right here, all

he has to do is knee you in the face and

he can't do it because you're on your

knees.

>> And let's be fair, like a knee when

somebody's on their feet is worse than

that.

>> Yes.

>> You know what I'm saying? Like that's

not way more behind it.

>> Yeah. That's not as like if if if you're

on the floor, I kne you in the head,

that's still not as bad as if me just

kneing you right in the face with on

Yeah.

>> Well, especially if you're the Michael

Venom Paige fight,

>> the cyborg cyborg. Yes.

If you ever want to know like what's the

most destructive strike in MMA?

>> Yeah.

>> The most amount of power you can

generate has got to be a knee.

>> A flying knee

>> while guy's coming in when the guy's

like shooting in on you.

>> The only thing I'm I'm not a fan of is

the

>> the kick the jab. [ __ ] the kick to the

knee. Oh,

>> I'm not a fan of that kick. Yeah. Like

you saw what happens if if you hit it

right when Khalil did it.

>> He did.

Yeah. Modest. Like my my opinion there

is it's just something that if you hit

it right, it's it's an injury coming and

and not a good one. You can't tap. It's

not like a knee bar or something. So I

kind of think if you can't kick a guy in

the side of the knee for that reason,

why should you be able to [ __ ]

>> If you can kick in the knees, you should

be able to kick in the nuts.

>> Yeah,

>> I'm going to be real. I I need What are

we doing here? What are we doing here?

We're pretending. Like wear a cup and I

can kick you in the nuts. There's some

good cups out there.

>> Always get a steel one. It's crazy. Like

why why do we have some weird rules like

that?

>> Yeah, it's crazy because like every time

somebody gets kicked in the nuts, you

say it. You always say it. Why don't you

get a steel cup? The fact that no one

has a steel cup to me

>> after all this time is unbelievable.

>> Code and it's ultimate cheap code in in

gu in grappling to somebody

on remember air ranardi.

>> Yeah. Yeah. That's a long time ago.

>> Yeah. A long time ago. trained with him

at uh Legends and he mounted me and he

put his cup in my solar plexus like I

was ready to tap from his dick.

>> All right, imagine imagine my two 265

doing that. You know what I mean? And I

always wore when I trained, you know,

>> as a lever for an arm bar like a knee

bar or anything. How you going to slide

your elbow past that? You know, it's a

weird [ __ ] look when the guys wear

the whole spandex and they have that

steel cup. So, they got like a big

[ __ ] dick in their

>> Shy Carter cup.

>> Yeah, it's [ __ ]

>> That's a Yel Romero.

>> You remember? Yeah, right. Remember that

Shonyy Carter? I think Eddie [ __ ]

talked about it for the entire fight. It

was a King of the Cage fight and Shy was

fighting and he had a giant cup on and I

swear Eddie just commentated about the

size of the cup. It was hilarious.

>> Bro, in the taekwond do days they had

ones you'd put on over your pants. So

you put you'd have your ghee pants on

and then you'd put these ones on over it

and it had like this big strap. It go

right up to your taint like right

literally to your [ __ ] and then go

all the way up like this and you would

strap it in. But it was way better. It

was way better cuz you had a boxing cup.

>> No, it was a taco. It was just for

taekwondo. It was just literally

designed to wear outside of And that's

when I realized like oh you can never

wear regular cups. Like regular cups

move too much. It's just sitting there

and sometimes your nut gets caught

between the cup and your leg when you

get hit there. It's way worse.

>> And I think maybe the UFC should make

that mandatory.

>> 100%. If you have to wear a mouthpiece,

why don't you wear compression shorts?

Wear those like the diamond MMA ones.

>> That's a cup I have. I like

>> legit. Legit. And if you don't want to

wear steel, that's fine. You don't want

to have dental floss up your [ __ ]

on.

>> It's uncomfortable. But that's I would

think if I was advising someone, I'd say

get a [ __ ] steel cup before they

outlaw it

>> cuz they should have a long time ago.

>> You should have to wear that though. I

mean, it would it would eliminate all

the nut shots.

>> If you're smart, you would wear a steel

cup 100%. Somebody kicks you in the

nuts, it'll hurt them more than hurts

you.

>> Like, it protects you from everything.

>> It's uncomfortable. That's all it is.

Just uncomfortable. So,

>> I mean, so is fighting.

>> Yeah. Yeah. So is fighting. So is

getting kicked in the nuts. Yeah. Dude,

I can't believe it's legal. I really I

It's like one of the How do you have

steel in there?

>> But I don't think anybody has a bunch of

guys do. DC wore it every fight he had.

>> Oh [ __ ]

>> dude. It's You imagine a guy diving on a

double and you hip into him,

>> man.

>> You're slamming his face with your dick.

Your dick is in metal.

>> Your dick's covered in metal. And that's

legal. You have to have pads on your

knuckles. Right.

>> You have to have pads on your knuckles

and you got an armor plate over your

[ __ ]

>> Yeah, I would I would definitely wear

that if I was fighting. Yeah,

>> I'm selling them.

>> Why not? I'm just selling them on my

website

>> because it's like there's no way that

should be legal.

>> Yeah.

>> Like how is that legal?

>> I don't know. I

>> It's [ __ ] metal.

>> You're bringing metal into the equation.

A foot can hit metal. A knee can hit.

>> You can do that and no and the fact that

no one does it. It's not well a few guys

do it. We were talking about different

guys who done it that that are currently

doing it and I know DC did it but

there's a few guys who still do it and

we were talking about it on one of the

broadcasts. I don't remember which guys

he was pointing out but there's a few

guys Kenny Florian always wore a steel

cup

>> but the fact that not everyone

for sure%

>> dang it's [ __ ]

>> you here when Degrad starts talking

Thai.

>> No he speaks fluent Thai. Does he

really? He's got that he's like a guinea

from from east from Boston. When when he

talks he can talk to Thai people, it

freaks them out.

>> Really?

>> Oh yeah, man. He spent a lot of time in

Thailand.

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>> Well, he's my man. I go to Boston to

stay with him.

>> I love that.

>> Yeah. And his His wife always cooks for

me. What a

>> bunch of people. He's a maniac.

>> On the Ultimate Fighter 4, we didn't

have assigned coaches and he would just

work with us like anytime we needed him.

Yeah.

>> You know what I mean? He was great and

he would let us tackle them and [ __ ]

mount them and [ __ ] you know what I

mean? As well.

>> Yeah. He's great, Mark. He's a good

>> He's a really good coach, too. You know

who who was really impressive working

with him was Kevin James.

>> You know Kevin James, you know, you

think of him as the king of queens. He

worked with Mark a lot and Kevin's been

my friend for years and I but I really

hadn't seen him hit paths. I saw him hit

hit paths with Delegrad. I was like

>> what the [ __ ] dude. I'm like that's

good. Like this looks good.

>> Marco make you look good. Marco make a

good [ __ ] coach man. He's a really

solid coach.

>> Gave Longo a black eye. He sparred one

time with Longo. Uh Kevin J. was walking

around like [ __ ] Petey from the

Little Ras.

>> That's awesome. He's a He's a

deceptively fast dude.

>> Yeah, he's athletic, you know, for big

dude.

>> When I first met him, he was jacked.

Like he was like he wasn't as big as he

got at one point in time, but he's

always kind of seesawed back and forth,

but he was a karate guy.

>> He was always doing karate when he was

younger.

>> Yeah, he's super athletic.

>> There he is.

>> It doesn't look as good there.

>> I think that's when he was just getting

into it, honestly. But he had he was he

had Delgate staying with him a while and

Delicate was training him.

>> Yeah, I saw him in Kill Cliff just like

blending in with the guys like he wasn't

like standing out. He was just at

Killcliffe training. Yeah, blending in

with the guys. He's a great guy. I've

known him forever.

>> I just seen him in either Becky or the

Wrath of Becky.

>> Oh yeah, that's not a bad show.

>> He plays a psycho

>> and the girl in it is great. It's like

the girl is like a little psycho girl.

>> That's a fun movie.

>> It's fun. really fun. I think it's the

first one called Becky and he plays a

villain. He plays uh

>> um the other guy that did it was Joel

McCale.

>> Joel Male played the the second psycho

in one of the other movies. I forget was

either the first or the second one.

>> I think he's in the second one, The

Wrath of Becky.

>> Kevin was awesome.

>> These are good. These are good movies.

>> Kevin played a good psycho.

>> Hey, did you ever see the the Night of

the Seven Kingdoms?

>> No, I haven't seen that yet. I'm telling

you. I'm going to watch it though

because I'm in the middle of finishing

the first season of game the first year

the first all Game of Thrones.

>> What? You're doing it over?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> Oh, you've seen it already?

>> But I haven't seen it since like 2015 or

11.

>> It's [ __ ] amazing. I forgot so much.

>> It's [ __ ] awesome.

>> This you don't even have to watch any of

the Game of Thrones cuz this takes place

90 years before the first events of the

Game of Thrones.

>> Sir Duncan the Tall and it is so good.

So well done and it's based on the novel

I'm a [ __ ] nerd. I I read the graphic

novel of it by uh George RR Martin.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> And I read it back in the day and it was

it's so great

>> and you know how they have like trial um

by combat.

>> Yeah.

>> In this one, not to give everything

away, but he this guy gets into it and

he has to do a trial by seven. So it's

seven on seven nights. Y

>> and it's like one of those thing. He's a

hedge knight. It's it's [ __ ] really

good. What I like about it is

>> Did you ever watch the House of the

Dragon?

>> Yes.

>> It's a lot of cool [ __ ]

>> but there's no one to root for. They're

a bunch of pricks. Who's one's worse

than the other?

>> I mean, back in in Game of Thrones, Jon

Snow, we had, you know, um Ned Stark

doing even some guys that are,

>> you know, even just great characters and

some guys that are on like the Hound

who's do like the anti-hero. But with

this one, it's just a [ __ ] good solid

dude trying to do the right thing. Y

>> and uh and he and by trying to do the

right thing, he gets into, you know,

into some trouble and it's just it gives

you like it's like

>> like being righteous and have like real

heroics like you know what I mean? Like

some [ __ ] that that's missing nowadays

because it's all about getting a [ __ ]

message in there or making [ __ ] diverse

which I love though. Stop. You know

what's really funny about that?

>> Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones was

like a feminist series

>> if you if you really think about it.

>> I mean, really was

>> but but without any fanfare. Like no

bringing it up. No one paid attention to

it. But the baddest people on that show

were the women. Cersei Lannister was the

baddest [ __ ] in the world. Ara Stark

[ __ ] killed everybody. Santa kept it

together through all that [ __ ] Brianna

of Tar [ __ ] everybody up, including

the hounds.

The most feminist.

>> Yes. And you got Daenerys, the queen of

dragons, who's the baddest [ __ ]

on earth. You literally can't burn her.

And she's got three dragons.

>> It's a feminist series. I didn't even

realize it. It is. It's a completely

feminist series, but without

>> It never even crosses.

>> Doesn't cross your mind cuz it's so

good. You don't care. It's not It's not

like dumb. It's You have to watch that

Dean.

>> No, I Yeah. And House of Dragons is the

same way,

>> right? Like there's some of these like

Star Wars movies where it's all women

generals and you're like, "Shut the [ __ ]

up. Shut the [ __ ] up."

>> And all the men are scared of them and

they all like get out of the room. Like

this is fiction, right? This is

nonsense.

>> Even though that's obviously fiction,

too. It's way better.

>> A lady that has dragons, the hottest

[ __ ] around, she's got dragons. She she

[ __ ] a bunch of killers.

>> She brings them into her bed.

>> Well, because they do a good job of

making barbarians.

>> Well, they do such a good job of making

them flawed that you don't even realize

that they are the baddest [ __ ]

in the world, but they're so but they're

flawed in a way where it's like it makes

them human.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> I mean, look at Cersei Lannister. All of

her kids gone. That [ __ ] survives.

She's got a giant demon that watches

over her, right? Like

>> she's in love with her brother. She

[ __ ] her brother and her brother.

Remember when she had the Well, I don't

spoiler alert when she had that uh the

the priest that tortured her while she

was in the cell when they finally got

her.

>> Yeah.

>> And she's like, "I'm ready to meet my

maker." She's like, "Oh, you're not

going to die today."

>> And then the

[ __ ]

>> Oh my god.

>> Oh, dude.

>> That was such a horrifying scene.

>> It was such a great show, though. Is

there a better like world universe than

that? No one was safe on that show. You

never knew the the biggest character

could just get [ __ ] merked at like

the next episode.

>> Pedro Pascal that played that was his

character

when he got killed by Prince Ador.

>> First of all, I never thought they would

kill him. Like that guy's an important

character. He's bringing all this new

life to the show and all a sudden you

see the mountain get his knuckles into

that guy's eyeballs and crushes. That

was so crazy. Holy [ __ ] That was like

one of the most disturbing murder scenes

you've ever seen in your life.

>> And he was doing great. He was taking a

[ __ ] out of him. He got too cocky.

>> Worked him over.

>> Thought he had him.

>> You raped her. You murdered her. You

killed our children. Some [ __ ] like

that. He kept repeating it.

>> Yeah. And strutting around with the

mountains on his back.

>> They are.

What a crazy show. Such a good show. One

of the greatest shows of all time.

>> I'm telling you, you got to text me

after you watch The Night of the Seven

Kingdoms cuz it's all out. You could

binge it. to it as soon as we're done

with this. We're on like season seven

now.

>> Six episodes

>> and each each episode's like 30 minutes.

>> You run through it.

>> The House of Dragons never really

dragged me in.

>> It did. It was interesting. You know, it

was like I liked it,

>> but it wasn't the same thing.

>> Definitely not. This I think this the

new one is in my opinion better. I

thought

>> Oh, the C the

seven kingdoms.

>> There's parts in it that just get you

GOING LIKE [ __ ] YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. Hell

yeah. I'm looking forward to I hope they

lengthen it a little bit. You know what

I'm saying? Six half hour episodes.

>> But I love the relationship between the

kid and the whole

show, right? One thing I did love about

House of Dragons when they were trying

to figure out who could ride a dragon.

>> Oh, that was cool.

>> And they brought all those people down

there to test them.

>> You have to have some Targaryen blood.

And a lot of the Targaryenss [ __ ] a

lot of regular people. So they were

searching for Targaryen blood, just

taking people out of the pub and just

push them in front of the track. That

was crazy.

>> She first they asked the uh one of the

king's guard like you know we tracked

you back to whatever and he's like oh

it's a great honor. No, I want to do it.

Yeah, buddy. Careful what you wish for,

[ __ ]

>> That scene was herself.

>> That scene was nuts,

>> dude. The red the red wedding. [ __ ]

that was the craziest [ __ ] ever.

>> You couldn't believe it was happening

while it was happening. Like this can't

>> cuz they were taking everybody

happening. This can't be happening. Did

you hate the ending as much as as

everybody?

>> I did not enjoy it. It felt to me like

they had to tie it up and like nice bow.

You know, I would have been almost

better if it was like no country for old

men style ending.

>> I think all all shows should be like

that because life continues afterwards,

right?

>> You don't have to tie it in 12.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Once it got past the books, it took a

hit.

>> Yeah.

>> Well, that guy's a genius. I mean, the

the world that guy created and the

complexity of all the characters like

Tyrion Lannister and Tywin Lannister and

>> Oh my god, good.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah, man. I mean, that guy was so

[ __ ] good, man.

>> They're already doing the the uh Sworn

Sword, which is the second book of uh

Game of Thrones of uh the Dunkin Egg

Tales.

>> Oh, nice.

>> Awesome.

>> That's that's his writing, too.

>> That's his Yeah, he did another one.

>> He did three books. It was uh a night of

the seven kingdoms which they just did.

They're going to do a sworn sword and

then it's the mystery night. I don't

know anything but I know a lot of Game

of Thrones [ __ ]

>> Don't ask me about

>> Game of Thrones and Star Wars. You're my

go-to.

>> The world's so [ __ ] up. You're way

better off with that stuff in your head.

>> That's why I do it, man. It's such an

escape, man. Just to sit home and watch

TV.

>> That's all I do, man. Sit home and watch

TV.

>> Speaking of Star Wars, I got a a text

out of nowhere from uh from George St.

Pierre. He loves it as much as me. Oh

yeah,

>> it was just about the new Darth Maul

animated series.

>> Oh no, he I swear to God.

>> And then he gave me back a report. He

told me he's like, "Oh, it's so far so

good." This

>> I told you my brother My brother's like,

"I know Matt's in Star Wars. Tell him

watch the new Darth Maul." You know,

Jamie says,

>> "It's fun." I I love George. He's He's

the best.

>> I have the hardest time convincing

people who he is. It's hilarious. What

do you mean? Like when people when he

comes to the mothership and people that

don't know anything about MMA, they're

like, "What does your friend do?" I go,

"That is one of the greatest fighters

that ever walked the face of the earth."

>> You're like, "No, for real." I go,

"Yeah, 100% in everybody's list of one

of the greatest of all time."

>> And he's like, "Hello, nice to meet

you." He just seems so sweet and

friendly.

>> Man, that's the problem with MMA is that

like you have to convince people about

how bad somebody was. And it wasn't that

long ago. I mean, it wasn't that long

ago that George St. Pierre was the

[ __ ] greatest of all time.

>> No, it wasn't that long.

>> And now, but the fans are so new that

you they don't get it. They don't go

back and watch it.

>> They had to watch like go back and watch

the John Fitch fight.

>> Oh man,

>> prime GSP. Prime. He was terrifying.

>> Incredible gas tank. Great flow between

grappling and striking. You very

creative.

>> He put that [ __ ] together the best.

That's why he had such success taking

everybody down. Like his he would set it

up his level change and he always he ran

through every takedown. It was never

he was going to run you across the cage.

>> George was phenomenal. And then I think

Farasah Hobby was a big part of that

too. Farasah Hab is a bad [ __ ]

>> Yeah, he's smart.

>> You ever watch his YouTube breakdowns of

>> sometimes? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's

incredible.

>> Very astute. He's so knowledgeable of

the game of every aspect of it. You

know,

>> his brother is doing well.

>> Yeah. His brother's fighting at the

White House.

>> He's fighting Shaun Ali and I think

people are sleeping on him.

>> Well, listen, he keeps winning.

>> Yeah,

>> he keeps [ __ ] winning. the the one

fight that he had that was kind of a

little controversial was Aldo. Remember

Aldo almost had

>> I don't Yeah, for sure. I'm not sure he

won that fight because I think they're

not being generous enough with the 108s

in the 107s.

>> They don't do it enough.

>> Not enough. There's When a guy just

tunes you up for like a minute and a

half of the round and you almost go

unconscious, you know, like that that

means a lot. I hate the fact that they

don't use it enough all because like

Dana was like, "Oh, I don't like it."

>> And now the judges are just like, "No,

we can't do it because

>> listen, the scoring system sucks because

we stole it from boxing. It's not it

doesn't have enough points

>> for sure.

>> It should be like a you should get like

a certain amount of points for different

things, but it would be really hard to

calculate

>> because it would be have to be

subjective. Like if Pereira hits you,

it's way harder than if someone's like,

you know, Paul Craig, like no

disrespect, but you know what I'm

saying, the consequences are very

different. So if he hits you with a left

hook, it's different than if Pereira

hits you with a left hook. So that's

subjective. But in terms of like what

happens in the fight, you should be

counting in submission attempts. You

should be counting in takedown attempts,

like who was more aggressive, who is

more defensive, who who's implemented

their STR. You should have like a 100

points to work with.

>> Absolutely. cuz he got 10 points. Why

are we only using two of them? It's nine

and a 10. Why?

>> It don't make any sense cuz there's 10

nine rounds that are like uh could be

anybody. And there's 10 N rounds where

he dominated.

>> That's well see like UFC BJJ uses that

and it works better for that because

they're very liberal with the 108s and

107s. They use it a lot. They're like if

it's if it's close it's a 109. If it's

one-sided it's automatically a 108.

>> So they use more sense.

>> That does make more sense. But even in

BJJ, I would say you'd need more points.

You need like it's like the difference

between a 7030 round where a guy's

dominating you 70% of the time and a

5149 round is [ __ ] huge.

>> It's huge and it doesn't reflect it in

the scorecards at all. So like you could

win a 109 round in the first round where

it's like you're barely ahead like maybe

I'll give it to you and then the second

round that dude [ __ ] you up and he gets

a 109 round cuz you didn't go down.

>> Yeah. But he's headkicking you and

you're blocking it. You're getting

teepped. Your legs are getting kicked

all the time. It's still a 10- nine

round. That's some That's nuts. No,

>> just because you didn't go unconscious,

just cuz you didn't get knocked down.

>> I think it's my ADD's kicking in. But

we're talking about the close calls,

close scoring. I thought Aljo

>> I thought he should have got that nod

against [ __ ]

>> I thought so too. I thought I didn't

think there was

>> the guy got on one reversal at the end

like a minute 30 left and Aljo was

winning that whole first round.

>> Aljo is a nightmare for a grappling

expert.

>> He could be undefeated at 140.

>> He's a nightmare because if your whole

thing is grappling with people and you

got to grapple with Aljo, you got

problems.

>> That dude gets your back. He's got

>> he's got

>> I mean him and 10 108 round like he was

just on his back dominated round and

they don't and no how is that not a 108

round? He's fighting Yousef uh Salon, I

said.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yousef's allowed. And that's

on the 25th of April. But I mean, but I

think, you know, if it hits the ground,

I think there's levels to this.

>> Yeah.

>> Did Did Aljo over Yan in the second

fight, was that like the best anybody's

ever done with Yan?

>> Yeah. No doubt.

>> His control is just so good when it hits

the floor. That's the difference between

him and Morav. Morav keep getting you

down and up, down, up. Aljo hits the

floor.

>> Yeah. You're not even He just needs back

exposure. He's one of those some guys

they can't jump up on the back. It's not

good for them. They're going to get

tired, dude. All day long he'll just go

up there, lock that [ __ ] on, and if he

doesn't get you, that's his round. Like

he's the Sanhagen fight was what a

masterpiece. Masterpiece.

>> His grappling is so so good.

>> Yeah, he doesn't get proper credit.

>> No, his back takes some of the best in

the in the sport, period.

>> Man, they're not a big fan of his. They

don't push I I feel SUCH A NICE GUY.

>> I KNOW. He does everything right. I

think it's the one fight with the neck

that was I think that was turned

everybody against him.

>> Those people are wrong. But look what

happened was [ __ ] up. Look what

happened in the seconded.

>> I mean he should have validated the

entire thing by whooping his ass in the

second fight.

>> But they had already decided they hate

him stuck on it. They already he had to

get his [ __ ] disc replaced. It was

real. It was a real [ __ ] injury.

>> He should be he could be un he could be

a two-time champ a double division

champ. I mean, he's in my mind, he's

undefeated at 145. Look what he did to

Calvin Kedar, which was Calvin Kater is

a beast. But

>> it was, if you didn't know Calvin Kater,

if that's your first fight seeing him,

you' be like, "Oh, that guy doesn't

belong here," which he obviously does.

He's a beast.

>> But Ala was masterful.

>> He know what it is. He's good at not

getting hit. So it's like he's not

giving you that back and forth cuz and

and Longo says you've seen 20% of what

he could do stand up and standing up

like I'd ask him something with his He's

like he could put his foot wherever he

wants it like about a kick or something.

He's he's just really really talented

man. I hope he gets his shot if he takes

out uh you know uh Yousef. I hope he

they give him a shot again cuz I think

he could be a two-time champ.

>> He Well, listen, he's still a bad

[ __ ] like he's he's a nightmare

for everybody,

>> especially if he gets a hold of you. But

I mean,

>> people look at the one fight losses.

They look at the Shawn Ali fight. Like

Shawn caught him perfect. That's just

how

>> And you know, he his head wasn't really

in that cuz he didn't even want to be

there.

>> Nope.

>> Why didn't he want to be there?

>> He fight They made him fight that fight.

He didn't want to fight.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. They they did like a whole

documentary on it where it was like they

they they kind of twisted his arm to

like you got to do this and they were

>> injured. I think he was injured.

>> There was a quick turnaround. It was too

quick a turnaround. He's the champ. He

didn't feel he should be forced into,

>> you know,

>> but he thought the number he thought

they he thought the pay-per-view numbers

was going to make up for it. He thought

he's going to get all this money from it

because he was like, "All right, I'll do

it. Sean Ali is going to bring in the

numbers." Then he said when it was over,

he saw the numbers. He was like, "If I

knew the numbers was going to be like

this, I don't think I'd have did it."

>> Yeah. Really?

>> Yeah.

>> So, it didn't do well.

>> It didn't do as well as he thought he

was going to do based on Shawn Ali's

presence.

>> Listen, man. It It takes a lot to get

people to pay for something today.

There's too much money to steal it.

>> This Paramount thing is genius in that

regard is that all you have to do is

have that app, which a lot of people

have already anyway.

>> Yeah,

>> that's genius. But to make people pay

every time to to watch fights, like

there's so much to watch today.

>> Well, that Well, that was the one thing

that my people at ESPN told me. They was

like, "It's a big difference between

being popular and then having people pay

to watch you fight."

>> Yeah.

>> Like you can be popular, but ain't

nobody paying you paying you to fight.

>> So, it's a big difference.

>> It's a giant difference.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. It's a giant difference.

>> I like that it's on Paramount as a fan,

though.

>> Save save you a ton of money. I pay I

used to pay for every one of them. This

Netflix thing is nice, too. It's good to

see that there's like someone who's

willing to throw a lot of money at MMA

in another large arena, you know, like

Netflix.

>> What do you do, guys? Cheetah vers

Ronda.

>> I I think round one submission Ronda.

>> Yeah.

>> Unless she wants to try to just stand up

with her, which I doubt. I hope not. I

don't know what Gan has been doing, you

know. I don't know how long she went

without MMA training at all. You know,

>> she was recently a little heavy. I can

say that. She'll be great now.

>> Does she look great now?

>> Look, she got in great shape.

>> She got in great shape.

>> She's still like 43 years old.

>> No, but the question is like what was

she doing in those? Was she still

training some? That would be my real

question because if you just put it all

down and you walk away for 17 years, I

got to go.

I mean, but with the with the weight

loss, with the weight gain that she had,

there was no way she was training or

doing anything. That's what I'm saying.

Like, she's back in shape and she

obviously is busting her ass to do that.

But how long, like you're saying, was

she down

>> and she has to develop a a a grappling

defense to one of the best female

grapplers ever. No, Ronda's leg. Her

only hope is to keep it on the street.

>> Guard on her and I sweep. She would pull

guard and sweep her or arm lock her. Her

arm locks her. Her arm locks are

amazing. Her arm locks are amazing.

>> They're preposterous,

>> you know. I think there's too many

>> dude or chick. Her arm bars.

>> Remember that cat zingo fight? Cat

charged at her. Cat threw her. That was

the craziest.

>> Got her an arm bar like instantaneous.

Stupid strategy that was.

>> Yeah, she blanked out on that one.

>> So crazy. That was such a sick

transition, too. No, but I saw a video

of Gina hitting pads with John Wood that

was kind of recent and it did not look

good.

>> How recent was it doing?

>> I don't know. I don't know. But it

didn't look good. I was just like,

>> it's hard to tell.

>> I hope it's I hope this is older.

>> She's a big girl. Maybe she can stop her

from taking her down or something.

>> But also, it's also what were they

doing? Were they just working on slow

motion [ __ ] Were they just trying to

get a movement or were they getting in a

hard mitt workout? You know what I'm

saying? I mean, either way, like just

like mechanically it didn't look great

>> mechanically. So, I mean, but it could

have been it's like one of them things

where like this could be like her her

comeback session and she's just trying

to get warmed up. But, who knows? I

mean, you know, who knows? Maybe she's

Who knows? You just never know. I hope

so. Yeah. I hope it's better than that.

Round one submission.

>> I mean, probably probably right.

>> I mean, come on. I bet you know, if you

had Poly Market, you can make some money

on that, right?

just like there's going to be a lot of

bets on that. It's uh it's it's exciting

though that that Netflix is doing it.

That's what I like. I like that there's

another place people can go.

>> It'll raise.

>> But how sustainable is this though?

That's my biggest question.

>> Whoever's putting the money up for this

is going to lose their ass. I think you

think they're going to make that money

back,

>> right? But here's the thing. It's

Netflix,

>> right? So Netflix has an insane amount

of money and they keep raking it in.

Like every month people are paying

whatever they're paying. It's as high as

like what 19 bucks for ad free. What is

it? How much is a Netflix account now?

>> I want to say it's higher.

>> I think it just went up, right? Yeah.

>> So going all that money is just coming

in every month. They just got to give

people exciting things to want to watch

and they'll keep making more money

because more people use Netflix. Like it

would seem like they're going to lose

their ass, but they're not

>> because they have a completely different

business model. Obviously I'm not a

businessman. $8.99 to 26.99 per month.

I'm a ter I'm in fact I'm a terrible

businessman. But I would imagine you'll

just make money by giving people awesome

[ __ ] so they keep tuning into Netflix.

So in that sense they're not going to

lose any money because there's a lot of

MMA fans that probably subscribe to

Netflix just so they can watch that

fight,

>> right?

>> So who's on the card now? It's like

Felipe Lind versus Inanu.

>> Yeah. Mike Perry versus Nate Diaz,

>> right?

>> Oh, and Robelis to Spain.

>> Yeah.

Yeah. And uh Junior Dos Santos.

>> That one. That one is like

>> Who's it?

>> Roella Desp.

>> That tall karate combat dude.

>> He's a taekwond do black belt from Cuba.

>> Wait, was Junior?

>> Yeah. How old's Junior?

>> He's 50 now.

>> Is he 50?

>> No, he's close. But he's in good shape.

I actually did a We spoke at a high

school a couple of months ago. Yeah.

>> I'm glad to hear that.

>> I mean, at least these guys get an

outlet to make some extra money.

>> Yeah, man. And who doesn't

Adriana Moray is a you know that's a

Mogay is probably going to school him

but I mean it's they got some they're

giving guys some opportunity so you got

to like this.

>> Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. It'll be a

big show. A lot of people will tune in.

Diaz and Perry's going to be [ __ ]

bananas. That'll be really fun to watch.

>> Yeah, that's I mean that'll be worth the

price of admission. Imagine if that was

10 years ago. That fight would be

>> I'm looking at this. It's like if the

GLA

went to [ __ ] it came came true.

[ __ ] remember that grandpa league

that was not everybody.

>> It just stole all their talent,

>> bro. Diaz versus Perry. Guaranteed dog

fight.

>> Just a guaranteed dog fight. That will

not be

>> Who do you think wins?

>> I think the jiu-jitsu is going to be too

much. I think

>> I kind of think that too. I kind of

think Nate might just drag him deeper,

right?

>> I think we're going to see. You know,

we're going to see.

>> Oh, it's five rounds. Five rounds.

>> That's crazy. Five rounds is crazy. I

wonder why they agreed on that.

>> Interesting.

>> Why do you think they agreed?

>> I didn't realize that.

>> Is the Gina fight five rounds or is it

three rounds?

>> Three. When they first announced it said

five by five for everything, but they've

changed a bit.

>> So, it says five.

>> Yeah, just for those two though. This

one does not.

>> And it also says these are the main

event.

>> I mean, I can't imagine

five rounds.

>> Well, actually, it does. There it does.

It says it real. It's hard to see it.

>> Yeah. 5x5 professional. Yeah. Okay,

>> bro. Loren Larkin back in the day.

>> I remember he fought Neil Magny. Was

hitting him with oblique kicks to the

chest and I was like, I do not think

I've ever seen anybody throw it that

way.

>> You ever see that fight?

>> No, I don't remember that fight.

>> He tuned Neil Magny up and Loren Larkin

was a bad [ __ ]

>> I do remember that. Like he had he had a

good little run. He was so his striking

was elite. Yeah.

>> And he would he when he fought Neil

Magny, he you know Neil Magny's a tough

[ __ ] dude, man. Durable. Incredible

discipline and endurance. Like that

dude's never out of shape.

>> And he was just getting too Look at

this.

>> I mean, he's throwing an oblique kick to

the ribs. That one there, he just hit

his arm and knocked him down with it.

But earlier before that, he caught him

on the rib cage with it. Look at that.

Look at that, bro. That's crazy.

>> He gave him a spot. Damn.

>> That's the second look at it. But right

here, you're seeing him. He's blasting

him with this

>> kick that nobody throws like that.

That's a crazy position to put your hips

in.

>> That is crazy,

>> bro. He's He was sharp.

>> How did this one end?

>> He stopped him.

>> Oh, did he?

>> Yeah.

>> Oh [ __ ]

>> Yeah. Loren was all over him, man. It

was a like one of the prime performances

that I've seen of him fight.

>> Yeah, he had a good little run. He had a

great a great run but in during that run

and this was like he came from Bellator

right.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. And when he came over from

Bellator it's like he was still like red

hot like red hot.

>> Some Yeah. Two guys that were in

Bellator which is uh Pit Ball and Aaron

Pico.

>> They're getting ready to fight in this

weekend.

>> How much time do you think a guy like

Pico is supposed to take off after

Lrone?

>> We we were just talking about that cuz I

love his offense man. And he's a little

raging bull

>> animal

>> and strong powerful.

>> He just got caught. And he got caught

perfect. I mean, it was just perfect.

That spinning elbow.

>> I think he got stopped more than Did he

get stopped more than once with a bad

knockout like that?

>> Yeah. Best fight ever.

>> You don't want to go through your

>> The kid from um Kill Cliff.

>> Uh Adam Bur.

>> Adam Burks.

>> Yeah, he got him with a flying knee.

>> With a flying knee. Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Damn, dude. You don't want too many of

those.

>> That's right.

>> But those put him out, man. Like you

just see him just go boop.

>> Yeah. That Macy Barber won the other

day.

>> Oh, dude, that was

>> one of the greatest finishes in women's

MMA history.

>> Oh, no doubt. I wanted to reach out to

Macy cuz I felt so bad. I wanted to

reach out to the doctor and say, "What

the [ __ ] are you think?" He's just over

like

a [ __ ]

>> So crazy.

>> Yeah. He's like I'm LIKE, "GET SOME

SMELL." I'M LIKE, "Somebody the

cameraman please get off this or

somebody talk to the doctor cuz I don't

know what the fuck." He was just over

like, "Man, this is [ __ ] up. I don't

think he knew exactly what was going on.

He probably has no experience in combat

sports, right? He didn't realize that

she got knocked out and while she was

out cold, she got strangled.

>> She transitioned so fast.

>> Like, she's out there. She's out cold

already and then she gets strangled.

Like, that's never happened before.

>> What's crazy is she was

>> Look at the way he kind of still

reacting and then when they put her on

her back, she just it was

>> she went limp as she was trying to sit

up. She went limp. You see right there?

like she was trying to get up and then

as the guy has his arm around her, she

goes limp,

>> dude.

>> See, there's like there's uh sea level

Kane and then there's Southpaw Alexa.

When she fights Southpaw, man, she is

dangerous.

>> Then this confused doctor,

>> right? Never seen this before.

>> Hey,

>> crazy.

>> Look at him.

>> Right. He's like

>> crazy is just Well, she's kind of coming

too there. I think she's blinking.

>> But that was just

>> Holy [ __ ]

>> Why? And the speed that she took her

back. Left hand boop back choke.

Amazing. One shot while she was out.

Still cracked her again. Got her back

and choked her all like a lightning

bolt.

>> That was super.

>> But that's the same combination she hit

Valentina with when she finished her.

>> I feel like five minutes with us sitting

there.

>> Left hand. Boom. Took her back. Took her

a while. It took her longer. But look at

this.

>> So she's in trouble. Bam. Right there.

Out cold and then strangled.

>> I don't think that combination of out

cold and then strangled has ever

happened before.

>> No,

>> cuz I mean she seen Watch this punch

here. That's out cold, right? And then

boom.

>> Sick. Now that's crazy.

>> Crazy.

>> Wow.

>> She's tough, man.

>> Fall backwards in front of you after the

knockdown, you know.

>> Well, so here's the thing. She gets up

and when she gets up I think she faints.

Like I think she tries to get up

>> and then he

Mike puts his arm around her and she's

out.

>> I think she fainted.

>> That's just scary.

>> That's scary. And she also had had some

problems before with seizures.

>> Yeah.

>> She had to pull out of that fight with

uh Aaron Blanchfield. Seizure in the

locker room, right?

>> So they allow they still allow her to

fight even though she's had seizures.

That's pretty crazy. Well, it depends on

what's causing the seizures, right? If

they know it's a medication that she was

on to get her off the medication. Like,

there's I don't know what causes

seizures.

>> Well, that shit's not going to help the

seizures.

>> But it certainly wouldn't make me

enthusiastic about fighting, right? It

would have to [ __ ] with your motivation

if you're already having seizures.

>> I wouldn't want to do it. I

>> Now, now after that,

>> I wouldn't want to do it.

>> Anytime you fight, that's a possibility.

Y

>> and he I mean look at a guy who never

once looked

>> took anything remotely like that like um

Camaro man

>> and even in a fight where he's just

doing so great and then that's the

closest thing I seen to that which is

when he got stopped with that head kick.

>> Yeah.

>> And you know that's a possibility

anytime you make that walk.

>> That's why you got that [ __ ] little

feeling in your

you know before you walk out there. The

Camaro one was nuts too because John

Anick was just saying because DC was

like a lot of people would quit in this

situation and John Anick said something

along the lines of but that is not the

cloth from which

>> I know and then as soon I mean that was

like the most perfect timing ever. like

a movie like it was if you saw that in a

movie like shut up

>> cuz I had just I had just came in and

was like yeah I think he's broke

>> and then DC was saying it and then John

intervened with he's not cut from that

cloth and boom head kick. It was nuts.

>> What is that new Russell Crow's doing a

new MMA movie?

>> Is that Is that going to be Is that

supposed to be the UFC?

>> No, I think 1FC. Yeah. They did it with

>> Yeah. I wonder if that's going to be

>> Yeah. But I mean like the who's the

fighter is like my age. I'm like yo

what's going on here?

>> Maybe

>> coming back. Like Randy Couture won the

title in his 40s, you know.

>> Yeah, man.

>> One has some wild striking fights, man.

Some of the absolute best standup fights

in the world are happening on one. I

watch it all the time.

>> I never know when that shit's on. When

is that on? Where are you watching?

>> There's this [ __ ] cat out of

Dagistan. Do you guys know who I'm

talking about? Asodoula Imangazalv.

Bro, this dude is uh I think he's 135

lbs. I think that's what he fights at.

And he's like 6'1 and just a laser beam

striker. Just [ __ ] people up. Like

literally might be the best striker in

the world.

>> Is it just kickboxing?

>> Yeah. And he's getting in there with

Muay Thai. He's getting in there with

world Muay Thai champions and KOing

them. Like threetime world Lupini Muay

Thai champions.

>> Damn.

>> Lupini stadium guys. This guy is a

[ __ ] straight killer, dude. And he's

from Dagistan and he can wrestle.

>> Damn.

>> You gotta Let's see if you can find like

a highlight reel of his KOs because this

is just like Get on YouTube and find

>> shot was nasty.

>> This I watch this cat every time he

fights. I just can't. He's so [ __ ]

accurate and he's so slick.

>> How old is he?

>> He's 22.

>> Oh, damn.

>> Yeah, man. I'm telling you, this

22year-old cat from Dagistan might be

the best striker on earth right now.

This dude is so impressive. And I'm

telling you, he's doing this to dudes

who are world champions.

>> Oh,

>> he's taking out world champion

kickboxers, world champion Muay Thai

fighters. They're putting him in there

with these [ __ ] assassins. And he

he's making them all go night night.

>> Oh, damn.

>> Oh,

>> bro, you got to see it in real speed

like like you see his real movements.

It's so impressive.

>> Is he withhabib and emo? I don't know

where he's trained in, but he's from

Dagistan,

>> bro.

>> He looks like Zabit.

>> Yes. Like a like a little bit more

robust Zabit.

>> Robust,

>> but it's like it's different. Like Zabit

had more of a you know, he had an

incredible style, but it was almost like

more taekwond do-ish. This guy's pure

Muay Thai, but he just [ __ ] people up,

man.

>> Accurate, too.

>> Oh, he's spin spinning heel kicks,

everything. Knee the body. But it's it's

the combinations, the way he's throwing

them. He just finds these openings on

people with this precision that you're

like, "Motherfucker, man."

>> He keeps the pressure on.

>> He keeps the pressure on, too.

>> He just flatlined folks

>> one after another, flatlining people,

>> man,

>> bro. He's very [ __ ] impressive. And

again, very impressive against world

championship caliber Muay Thai fighters.

>> These are not scrubs that he's fight.

Damn. And one's putting these fights on

all the time. And I was trying to tell

Dana this. I was like, if you guys had

like UFC striking, do you know how

[ __ ] exciting that would be if just

Muay Thai with MMA gloves on?

>> Well, they should do that. They do the

BJ now 100%. They're missing out on a

giant opportunity because how many

people boo when a fight goes to the

ground. Boo.

>> These guys never go to the ground,

>> right?

>> It's just all

>> And kickboxing is so much more brutal

than than boxing.

>> Way more brutal.

>> It just didn't get a fair shake in

America.

>> It's not that it's not exciting. It's

the most exciting aspect of the UFC

other than a great submission like Alexa

Graco after a knockout. That's like the

most exciting.

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>> I could People [ __ ] about Commot. I

could watch him do that to Draus all day

long. I don't give a [ __ ] I That's

masterful.

>> Masterful.

>> Get him off you. People like, "Oh,

that's a shame." And he doesn't take

chances. Dude, get He's He's not like

He's not trying to beat the [ __ ] out of

him. He's getting him tied up and he's

>> beating him up and he's just he's

working him over. I mean, what do you

want him to stand up in the in a

crucifix? Like, what are you talking

about here? Yeah. I mean, that's Drius'

problem. Like, Drius need to get them.

Yeah.

>> Yeah. 100%. And I don't I don't believe

in standups at all. Period.

>> I think the only time you should stand

up is someone fouls.

>> If someone does a foul and then you have

to stand it up, take a point away from

them, maybe then you stand them up.

>> Yeah. Like you can't you shouldn't

reward a guy for having like [ __ ]

defense.

>> If the dude on the bottom is the one

that failed, put them back where they

were. Don't reward.

Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Definitely.

But other than that, why are you letting

people stand up?

>> Why? Guy had to work so hard to get him

to the ground. Maybe he's taking a break

for a couple seconds to catch his

breath.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, like what the [ __ ] do you

want?

>> Like figure out how to get up.

>> Yeah.

>> Bottom people just have to be better.

>> Also, you know what how to fix that?

Here's how you fix that. Knees to the

head to a downed opponent.

>> Absolutely. Absolutely. And then it's

like it's all out of the wrestlers then

wrestlers become super [ __ ]

dangerous.

>> Man, Mark Coleman won the Grand Prix

with that [ __ ] Didn't you see the

smashing machine? Did you like the

Smashing Machine?

>> I did. I did. It was good.

>> I did. I thought The Rock was amazing. I

thought like his acting like like you

didn't think it was The Rock,

>> you know?

>> I haven't seen it yet.

>> You thought it was Mark Kerr? Like he

even got a forehead thing like he got

like rubber put on his forehead or

whatever the [ __ ] like

>> Yeah. Make him more Neanderthal.

>> A little chromagnetic.

>> Give a little Frankenstein for almost

scene by scene. It was almost like the

same pretty much the same exact thing as

the documentary.

>> It was really good. the documentary.

It's it takes it's like the same shots,

the same story. So, if you seen the

documentary, which was great. Yeah,

same.

>> Kerr was a great guest. I had him in the

podcast. He was fun. It was really he

was a really cool guest, you know.

>> No kidding.

>> Yeah, he was really fun and just a real

intelligent like easy to talk to.

>> Like, where does he live now? Like

that's like Arizona,

>> bro. I saw him in early UFC's when I was

a backstage interviewer. He submitted

Dan Bobish with his chin to his eye.

>> I remember that. I remember that too.

>> That was crazy.

>> I remember when he came on the scene.

Well, the UFC scene when it with the old

Ranger Scott needed a face.

>> I remember Rip Rules is what we were

about to find out.

>> Morty Heinenstein or something like

that. The crowd.

>> I don't know, man. My favorite Mark Kerr

fight was against Fabio Gel down in

Brazil. That was crazy.

>> That's where he got his name.

>> Yeah, man. That's that's my [ __ ]

>> man. I

>> I was a big Fabio fan and like I mean if

you can't have respect for that guy

after that beating he took and he never

never [ __ ] thought about quitting.

>> Crazy.

>> Yeah. Heads and everything.

>> Who said yes to that?

>> Yeah. Right.

>> Let me put you guys aside. Explain

physics.

>> And now I need to introduce you to

steroids. That was to combine physics

and steroids and like no you're not

fighting Mark Ker. Right. If you look at

the time, that's when jiu-jitsu still

had that mystique about it though. True.

You know, back when they weren't losing,

>> but that kind of killed, but like that's

when like the beginning of the end of

like the guard started for MMA. It was

like that cuz like those big wrestlers

was just like, "Oh, you mean all I got

to do is block his hips and head?"

Right?

>> There was Do you remember when Mario

Sperry fought Igor Zenovia?

>> Oh, yeah.

>> So, Mario Sperry's like one of the first

jiu-jitsu black belts to lose in MMA.

>> That's right. Yes,

>> we all thought jiu-jitsu blackwells were

invincible, right? And Mario Sperry was

elite. He was a really good black belt.

>> And so he fought Zenov and Zenovia

stopped him.

>> I remember that. Yeah.

>> And Mario was doing everything right,

mounting him correctly, doing but then

he would just do one of those weird like

super big bridges and get and then his

because he had endurance and he was able

to just withstand his attack. He

>> he ended up cutting him or something

towards the end. Yeah.