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>> Danny. Hey Joe.

>> Good to see you, brother.

>> Good to see you again, man.

>> So, right off the bat, you hand me this

Smithsonian pamphlet. It It's like a

very small book on Peruvian elongated

skulls, including like diagrams.

>> Yeah. Not Peruvian. These are from the

Pacific Northwest.

>> From This is one of the things where I

wanted to really bring up to you. The

majority of the elongated schools in

recorded history are from Washington

State, Oregon. Yeah.

>> Now, are these manipulated schools?

>> Yes, sir. Those were manipulated

>> by people. As a matter of fact, um when

Lewis and Clark reached the the Colombia

River, they passed the Cascade

Mountains. All of the Native Americans

west of the Cascades had artificially

modified schools. Look at the title of

the book. The Chinook sign of freedom.

If you didn't have an artificially

modified school, you were a slave.

>> Wow. The Shinook sign of fre sign of

freedom. A study the skulls of the

famous chief, how do you say his name?

>> Connley.

>> Conley.

>> And he was he was um he met with Lewis

and Clark during the uh during their

expedition. Um and he was as famous as

Sakajia was 100 years ago. Um but he's

just

>> disappeared. Um he had an artificially

elongated school. A bunch of images that

talk about it. He attributed his

intellect to his artificially elongated

skull. Um

>> what?

>> Yeah. That he they believed.

>> How would you know though?

>> They don't.

>> They did it when you were a baby.

>> Exactly. But they that's what they all

believed. And there is actually

something to this is one of the things I

that's really interesting that I've

stumbled on is

>> you know Neanderthal if you look at um

the difference between a Neanderthal

brain case and a human brain case is a

huge difference. Like I I have an image

if you don't mind, Jamie. You can throw

it up there if you don't care. Um but

it's all in the back. It's like there's

a thing called Chiari malfform type one

where the your base of your cerebellum

falls into your spinal cord and it

causes migraines and all kinds of stuff.

And scientists now are saying that it

probably came from us and Neanderthal

brain case skull not quite fitting.

>> And if you think about actually makes a

lot of sense, right? Right. I mean, the

Neanderthal school is way wide in the

back. And that's where all of your your

motor skills, your smelling, your

seeing, your hearing.

>> Yeah. They were more primitive. They're

probably super athletes. And the the

real the weird question is like, were

they smart? And how smart were they?

Like their frontal lobe is not as big as

ours. Correct.

>> Correct.

>> And that's where all the thought

processing and decision- making comes

from.

>> So, they probably had insane athletic

ability.

>> Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And and motor

skills and visual ability.

>> The visual ability is important because

look at the size of their eye sockets.

>> Now imagine if you wanted the best of

both worlds. So you were you were

breeding these two species together.

>> Look at the jaw on that [ __ ]

Imagine trying to knock that guy out.

Good luck.

>> You did about it. Although they had

chests like barrels, too. It's like they

they all look like you do naturally.

They don't have to lift. They just

they're just that way.

>> They probably look a lot more impressive

than me. Well, well, the guy on the

left, he looked he looked like me

naturally. He's

>> I mean, do you remember that one? It I

think it's just nonsense. But there's

this one guy who proposed the idea of

Neanderthalss being uh like gorilla

looking like super predators and he

thought that the eyes were bigger so

they could see at night

>> and he had like this crazy it was very

>> they were eating us all. Yes.

>> Right. Right. Right. Very sensationalist

nonsense

>> and the genetic evidence is what you

know.

>> Yeah. that guy. It was [ __ ] dope

though. The idea that this seeing the

dark, you know, like primate that lives

in the woods and was like infinitely

stronger than us. Like could you just

rip our arms, right? Like gorilla strong

>> and but but not smart enough that you

could like, "Hey man, could you please?"

No. No. No. No. He's just going to eat

you.

>> Oddly enough, has a skull that has a

larger capacity than us. And so then we

have to think, okay, is it just motor

skills? Like do we what do we know about

the brains of dolphins? Well, we know

that their their brain capacity it's

quite a bit larger. Like their

>> I think their cir their cerebral cortex

I think is like 40% larger than a

person's.

>> Yeah. Something crazy like that.

>> So what is that like what's going on

with them? Like how are they so much

more intelligent than us but they just

can't manipulate their environment so we

ignore it?

>> Well that could be it also could be a

degree of chemistry that they can't you

know I mean you can't do fire underwater

really. So you're kind of stuck with

your technological stuff.

>> There's no manipulation, right? So all

of their intellect must go into other

areas.

>> Social and hunting and

>> but then you find out how horrible they

are to each other.

>> Yeah.

>> You know what I mean? Like the infantry

side, you know, like dolphins, female

dolphins are very promiscuous. And the

reason why they're promiscuous is

because if the male doesn't know if the

cubs are his or not, if he thinks they

might be his, he's not going to kill the

cubs. But if a female has cubs, the male

will kill the cubs so that the female

will breed again. It's like, "Hey, I

thought you guys were like the super

peaceful [ __ ] smart ones."

>> Sounds like Sounds like kind of like us.

>> I don't know a lot of guys who are

killing babies so that the women will

breed,

>> but it gets close.

>> Chimpanzees do it.

>> Do they do that?

>> Yeah, they do that kind of stuff,

though.

>> Bears do that.

>> Yeah. It's It's

>> Bears do two things. They think they

think one they eat cubs to force the

female into breeding again, but two they

think they just do it for food.

>> It's just dark.

>> That's that's yeah that's arachnid

levels are dark. Right.

>> Cannibalism is dark

>> always.

>> And bears are all cannibals. And this is

the thing about people and the

athropomorph

anthropomorphication. Is that the word?

How do you say

>> anthropomorphic?

>> Anthropomorphification. I always I want

I want to say pro but it's po right.

an anthropomorph. Anthropomor Yeah, I

think you're right.

>> Um, whatever it is, people humanizing

animals. The weirdest one I think is

bears and like you can train bears.

There's bears at the circus. You like

they're an interesting animal, but in

the wild they are some of the [ __ ]

most brutal and ruthless creatures.

They're it's basically almost like a

giant wild dog, you know? And they tear

things apart and they eat things while

they're still alive. Like they're

[ __ ]

>> They don't care.

>> They don't care. They're [ __ ]

horrible. They're horrible to each

other. They go into dens and pull out

cubs and eat them. I mean, I

>> Yeah, just a different set of morality,

I guess you could say, or lack thereof.

But yeah, I'm glad I'm not a bear cuz

I'd probably have been eaten as a cub.

>> Or you would have been hit by a car. or

have been hit by a car.

>> Yeah, that's the rough.

>> Or caught in a trap and trained to be a

dancing ballerina bear or some [ __ ]

stand on a ball.

>> The um the the ancient humans though to

me are like I feel like this is a this

is a an emerging topic even though we've

known about Neanderls for so long now

that they know about Denisovvens, now

that they know about homo florian, how

do you say that? Floriansis.

>> Yeah, I'm that one pronunciation.

>> Island of Flores, man. The the hobbit

people. Now they they know, okay, we've

got two very distinct human beings that

lived with humans that aren't homo

sapiens. And the Dennisovven's one is

[ __ ] super weird. They're big.

>> They're big.

>> They were taller than us.

>> Then the bigger heads like very almost

like Neander. There is um some of the

stuff that I got for to talk about here

is um

>> like uh polyactly multiple fingers and

more than five fingers and toes on each

hand. That's in the Bible. They talk

about the giant. Okay.

polyactyl. If there's a gene GI um could

you pull up the one that says polyactly

paper, please? Thank you. It's they've

been studying this and there's a gene

that Neanderthal and Denisvens had that

a variant that increases polyactyl. It

increases um uh cranial deformations. It

increases a bunch of stuff. Um this is I

mean they and this is uh and this is all

newer stuff. You see that's 2023.

Oh,

>> and there's this is huge.

>> I saw your video on this where you

talked about there's one family in

Brazil that has uh like most of their

family members have six fingers and six

toes

>> and Yeah. And they say it helps them.

>> Of course.

>> Of course. I can grab the ball better. I

can play an extra string. Right.

>> Right. Imagine guitar extra finger.

That's nuts.

>> You could even be an ugly dude and and

seduce a woman when you got an extra

finger.

>> Good luck.

Chicks don't want to have kids with a

guy who has [ __ ] six fingers. I'm

some freak kid.

>> The the in South America, they actually

honored that stuff. They honored they

honored genetic deformations. I honestly

believe that they were actively breeding

different bloodlines together in South

America.

>> Look at that baby. That's crazy.

>> It's got five fingers and a thumb.

That's crazy.

I mean, the thing is they look

absolutely normal in every other way,

except the fact that they have five

fingers instead of four. Like, and it

would take you a few seconds. It's

almost like you're living in the Matrix.

And this is like an AI glitch, you know,

like AI glitches. They would have people

that have like additional appendages,

like a weird elbow growing off your

elbow, you know, cuz it just glitched.

>> The clat walks by. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I

like it would take you a while before

you real like imagine if you were high

and you went over this lady's house and

you saw her playing piano and you're

like wait a minute why is there so many

noises

>> slow down with the nose

>> how do you have so many fingers

>> you wait a you have extra fingers like

this dude had gloves gloves right there

>> bro he must be a [ __ ] of a

goalie

>> oh of course

>> right it's the greatest hand skill for

goalies

>> yeah but watch your space for sure.

>> More space. You cover it up.

>> But I think

>> definitely better if you could teach

them how to punch. You have a whole

another finger that like the width of

the hands would be greater. The weight

of the hands would be greater.

>> Yeah. The guitar players say it's not

the extra finger as much as it is the

extra stretch, the extra reach that lets

them

>> pop a couple extra frets.

>> Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense.

Especially like long fingers.

>> The guitar is still made for a five

fingered player, right? So you're Yeah,

you're just not

>> Well, you can figure out how to do it

with six. Look what Hendrick's doing

upside down. Played it left-handed.

>> I guess Stevie Rayvon, local hero.

Right.

>> Right. Turn that thing and stand. You've

seen the live at El McComber one where

he he takes his like $15,000

Stratacaster stands on the horns and

he's rocking the neck back and forth and

I'm just pops the string just pick

doesn't even care. Just go.

>> It's not a toy. It's not an instrument.

It's a damn toy. It's a tool. It's a

>> Yeah. Anyway,

>> I can gush about that guy for a bit. I

like Stevie. He's pretty good.

>> We have posters of or photos of him from

when he was on stage at the club way

before we owned it.

>> Oh, really?

>> Yeah.

>> He was on that stage in like the 80s.

>> Oh, wow.

>> I think I think the picture's from 83.

>> Yeah. I popped into Anton a couple of

times to just just just to smell the

air.

>> Yeah, Anton is dope. That's a great

place. I've seen Gary perform Gary Clark

Jr. perform there a few times. It's

[ __ ] sick.

>> Yeah. I haven't I haven't got to watch a

show there every time I'm in town. It

was up to no good. But uh I might have

to catch a show there one of these

nights.

>> Yeah, we did it and everybody got CO.

The whole crew, everyone backstage got

CO. One of their guys Yeah, one of their

guys had CO after the show. It was like

during the whole during the full

lockdown and they had a concert. I was

like, I can't believe we're at a

concert. And then we went backstage.

We're hanging out in the green room and

then everybody got CO.

>> [ __ ] I am not a fan.

>> Yeah, except me. I didn't get it.

Oh, it's because you were, you know,

it's funny. It's I was something that I

wanted to talk about on this anyway, so

we may as well get into it now, is the

co thing. You know, they weaponized

scientific literacy when they said trust

the science on the on the jab. That's I

there's a lot of things worth talking

about, but the the whole war on science,

like I keep call I get called a science

denier a lot. [ __ ] that. I'm a science

gatekeeper. You don't get to call it

science if it ain't science. You stop at

the door. Science is a method. It's a

it's a way we get somewhere. It's not

the end result. Carl Sean said, "Science

is more than a body of knowledge. It's a

way of thinking, a way of skeptically

interrogating the universe. The average

time for a peer review for a test on a

vaccine is about 10 years. You crank it

out in a year and a half, you haven't

followed the proper [ __ ] steps. You

haven't done science. I'm not a science

denier. I'm not I've just do it right

and come back,

>> right? It's not a coincidence that there

was so much money involved.

>> We're not stupid. No,

>> we know why it it wasn't done because

there was no other methods to treat this

disease. That's ridiculous. It's not

true.

>> And that's why they got so mad at me.

>> But that's where I was going to go with

your doctor, they they threw your

personal physicians under the bus. And I

don't know anything about that except

for that I can't extrapolate. I can

guess and say that the guy that your

personal physicians probably wants to

keep that job probably doesn't want to

see you croak from COVID in the

meantime. I mean, I could be wrong, but

you know, it it seemed really just

ridiculous that it was like, oh, they're

just pushing a bunch of pseudocience

[ __ ] It's like, um,

>> that you could look at it that way. And

I, you know, everyone was scared and

it's not their fault that they, you

know, they were presented with this

pandemic that caused people a lot of

anxiety, but was shocking to me was how

few people were willing to say, "What

did that guy do?" Instead of saying, "Oh

my god, you're anti-science. You're

promoting vaccine hesitancy. You didn't

get vaccinated and you survived COVID

and you're telling everybody how you did

it. This is anti-science. Like,

>> but it happened

>> except they told you you were using a

horse dewormer, right? Which

>> Well, that was completely insane. But

that that's just proof of propaganda.

But even without that proof of

propaganda, you also have this thing

like if if we are all trying to get

through something and you see someone

who is a very public person, I'm online

all the time. I have millions of

subscribers, right? Yeah. So, I'm very

scrutinized on my and everyone knows

that I work out all the time. Everyone

knows I take vitamins. I talk about it

all the time. Cold plunges and [ __ ]

hyperbaric chambers and all this

different [ __ ]

>> Why wouldn't they say, "Oh, apparently

if you're really healthy and you do

these things and for maybe whatever

reason you can't get vaccinated, this

works too."

>> There was never even a consideration,

right? Even even let's assume the

vaccine worked which it which didn't

like which let's assume that it

prevented infection which it didn't

prevented transmission which which it

didn't and didn't have any side effects

which is certainly not true. So, let's

just let's pretend it did. Even then,

you have people that are allergic to

some of the ingredients in the vaccine,

right? Aaron Rogers was one of them. And

so, if you tell those people, hey, I

understand that this medicine that works

you can't take, but here is a guy who

did something different and was fine.

Like, this is okay, too.

>> Instead, they shut all that down,

demonetized people, chose channels down.

It was It was bad.

>> It was interesting. It was it was it it

was interesting. It's you know um it's

funny watching it from hindsight because

we can look at it now and see where you

know everything's kind of settled

afterwards to a degree. But even still

like uh like for example the Fouchy

hearings nobody who was a big supporter

of his that I know personally knew about

that until I told him about it. It was

like it just didn't show up in their

[ __ ] radar.

>> They don't want to know about it.

>> Of course not.

>> I mean nobody wants to think that they

were completely wrong about that, you

know.

>> Yeah. And that was one of the things

they did whip everybody up into a fury.

>> Yeah. Look, when you're wrong about

something, you got to say, "Well, I was

wrong about that for sure."

>> That's really honestly like part and

parcel not just to being an honest

person, but like especially if you're in

science. Um,

>> yes. You know, like your boy, your

favorite archaeologist who's not a

scientist, that Flint Dibble guy, he

recently did a thing where he was making

fun of me and he's like pulls up this

thing talking about Easter Island and

how Easter Island's earliest habitable

layer has food stuffs from South America

and Asia. So like the as far back as

people were hitting Easter Island that

we're aware of, they were hitting both

of these continents a thousand years

ago. So I I mentioned this Flint clips

that he's like, "This is [ __ ] This

Dan's confidently wrong. He's full of

shit." Five minutes later in this live

stream, he catches that that is

accurate. Well, actually, there is uh

evidence of contact between the two, but

he never mentions that it was on Easter.

He saves his face rather than and I mean

that's not like a big surprise thing,

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>> Scientific. This is what I also think. I

think there's all this personal stuff

that goes on with these people that is

so completely unnecessary.

>> And I think the only reason why

archaeologists get dismissed

by these whatever you would call

yourself amateur

>> interested amateurs.

>> Interested amateurs in all things life

and looking at these looking at the data

and looking at the science of it. And

you're really good at it.

>> Well, thank you. I appreciate that. That

should be an asset. That's all that

should be. That should be an asset to

the archaeologists. And if you think

they're wrong about something, you

should talk to them. Now, I think when

he had that conversation with Graham, I

think that's the right way to do it. I

don't think necessarily he did it in

good faith. And I think he wanted to,

you know, push a certain narrative. And

one of the narratives was the thing that

disturb disturbed me the most is he was

trying to label Graham as racist for

proposing these theories that there's an

advanced civilization that existed

before the one that we currently see.

>> Yeah.

>> I don't think that it can be racist.

It's human beings. It's not just human

beings. It's human beings specifically

that live in the very area where those

human beings live.

>> So it's their ancestors. So the

ancestors of Africans are the ones who

built the pyramids, right? Whoever the

[ __ ] they were, whether whether they

were the people of 2,500 BC or whether

it was even earlier than that, whatever

it was, it was the people that lived

right there. The same people.

>> So, this is crazy.

>> Well, the whole thing is, this is what's

really funny. Atlantis, well, they say

you assume that Atlantanss were white.

Erggo, it's only the brown people

buildings that you ask questions about.

You're not asking questions about the

coliseum. It's like, okay, well, the

coliseum has written records. So, I know

why the coliseum was built, when it was

built, the parthonon, same thing. But

you know what I don't know about that

was built by white people supposedly?

Balbeck. Balbeck was supposedly built by

Romans. We're all doing it there, too.

It has nothing to do with color. It has

everything to do with written records.

They ignore this. One of my favorite

things to throw at him with Ballback has

no written records of the

>> not of the tril of the big stuff.

Exactly.

>> And how do you not write that down?

>> You wrote down everything.

>> The Romans wrote everything down. They

had scribes. Their job was to document

everything. They were very concentrated

on history.

>> Yeah. Yeah, we went off about this when

me and Jimmy Corsetti were here. Yes.

But talking about like the Roman foot.

>> Well, if Jimmy's right, Atlantis was in

subsaharan Africa.

>> It's Africans.

>> Well, I think honestly that I think

Atlantis is kind of a catch-all term for

a lost civilization that was globe

spanning. Yeah.

>> And like they would call us 10,000 years

from now, they would just lump us in

with the damn French and call us the

electronic civilization. And with the

exception of GSP, I don't want to be

associated with a damn French.

>> No, I'm kidding.

>> There's a lot of dope French people. I

love Montreal. I love

>> Speaking of um GSP is going to be at

that event. Um

>> Oh, is he? He's the best. I love that

he's doing a podcast. He's a very

fascinated guy. He's fascinated and

curious about so many things and he's

kind and he's open-minded and he's

really intelligent. He is so odd. Like

when people meet him and I go, "Do you

know who that is?" And they go, "No."

See, he's like a really nice guy. Like,

that is one of the greatest cage

fighters that ever lived, they're like,

"No way." I go, "One of the all-time

greats, if not the all-time great." I

think Jon Jones all time great. But I

think he's in the conversation like

George is in the conversation of one of

the greatest that's ever done it. And

meanwhile, he's the sweetest, nicest

guy. Dude, when I I made a comment once

to him on Instagram where he was like

doing these leg workouts and I was like,

"My legs will never look like that

because I'm sitting on a computer all

day smoking weed and reading." And he

goes, "I trade my legs for your brain

any day." And I'm just like, "Sut the

[ __ ] up. Your legs have made you

millions. What the hell you talking

about, boy?"

>> Well, everybody wants what they don't

have. You know,

>> he's going to have me on his pod here on

the 17th, too. He's going to be here the

16th or 18th or that thing at the end.

>> Yeah. everybody this thing. What are you

doing?

>> Uh here at uh the Quest for Ancient

Civilizations Conference October 16th

through 18th at the ACL live here in

Austin, Texas. Be me, Rand Carlson.

Um Base Forge, you just had him on here.

Bass 4J. Um and a few other guys. Um

yeah, this thing. There's got a bunch of

AI. See the AI generated Amish dude in

the middle there.

>> Look at all the pseudo science on one

picture. I love it.

>> Oh man. Yeah, we're we're there.

>> It's just like Duncan. It's going to be

>> That doesn't look like Duncan at all.

That's like Duncan on TRT.

>> But Curt and Duncan are going to be

there. The Mystery Boys. Those guys will

be Those guys are always

>> You hear Randle Carlson has a rap song

out now?

>> Yes. Yes.

>> Not Randall. I'm sorry. Billy Billy

Carson.

>> Randall. I didn't know he released one

together.

>> My brain got scrambled. Randle. Randall

is a rap song.

>> When we were in Sedon, Arizona, we him

were sharing an Airbnb and he was he

wrote it in like the late ' 80s. He was

spitting bars at me over breakfast. I

was just going [ __ ] damn. This was

not on my bingo card. Whoa.

>> Randle Carlson rapping at me for

breakfast. Carlson is a hip-hop head.

>> Uh, from the late '8s.

>> He's been

>> How do I How do I not know that? I've

known that for I should look it up or

not.

>> Poor J the [ __ ] away over here.

>> Randall Carlson hiphop. Please put that

into Perplexity. Ask our AI sponsor,

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history in hip-hop is.

>> That would be dope watching [ __ ]

Santa Claus spitting bars like that.

>> I'm telling you, man. I was I it was I

was still drinking coffee and nursing my

morning bowl and I was like, "Well, holy

[ __ ] Is this the real world?"

>> Yeah. Crazy.

>> But yeah, uh that's going to be a fun

thing. GSP is going to be there now that

he just got officially 100% confirmed

about an hour ago.

>> That's fantastic.

>> But uh yeah, that's going to be a lot of

fun. Um but uh I'm going to be talking a

lot.

>> Tickets are available for that. You can

get them online.

>> Yeah, tickets are available. You can get

them online. The Quest for Ancient

Civilization. Thanks. Um um Quest for

Ancient Civilizations. Um, if you go to

my YouTube, there'll be stuff on there.

Uh, yeah. If you look for Quest for

Agent Civilizations, you'll have no

trouble finding.

>> So, this conference, uh, available

online, people can get tickets. Looks

like a dope lineup. And it's all the

stuff that I love to talk about. So,

>> yeah. Sick.

>> Yeah. I I jokingly called it the Rogan

Trinity when we got GSP. We've got the

pyramids, we've got the comedy, we've

got the ass whooping. It all

>> So, these people, let's go back to this

um this Smithsonian thing. these people

with their altered heads.

>> Is it your suspicion that they were

altering their heads to try to appear

like people that were already here? Like

the Peruvian skulls and

>> No, before I thought Oh, go ahead.

Sorry.

>> No, go ahead.

>> Oh, before I thought that, but um cuz

like there's skulls in China that were

originally mistaken for chromagnet and

Neanderthal and stuff like old and now

they say they're artificially modified

by people. But

>> no, I think um could you pull up the

image for Chiari malfformation? It's the

It's got two heads with one circled like

two cat scans.

>> Well, I was talking about the brain

falling down into the thing.

>> They believe that this is a problem from

Neanderthal andor Denise and mingling

with us. Skull too small, brain too big.

So now if you have this consistent

problem, you've got to always got

pressure on the brain.

>> See how it's pops down there? You've

always got this pressure on the brain.

>> Now imagine if you

>> you might drill holes in your head. Like

you've seen all the truncation that's

happened down there. There's an image of

that. Yep. And then or you might

elongate the back of the skull every

generation so that your kids don't have

the same [ __ ] headaches grandpa did.

>> And so it becomes a thing that and this

is why if you check out South America

Paracus is insane this way. They have so

many things. The polyactyli

the elongated skulls the tffonation.

There's a thing. Could you pull up the

Inca bone one where your skulls melt?

The plates in the skull melt in the

back. If there is stress or a lack of

equilibrium, you'll end up what they

call firmian bones. Ones in the back are

wormyian bones. The ones in the back are

so pronounced. Um, the are called Inca

bones because they happen mostly in Inca

territory. You also see in Easter

Island, the Pacific Northwest, and in

Asia. But this part of the skull right

there, um, there's one that's got a

Neanderthal that shows this, too.

Neanderthalss have the same issue.

There's another one. And there's an

island. Uh oh, Jesus. Um

but yeah, the uh Sorry, there's Yeah,

there's one

>> my own head right now.

>> There's one with white text at the

bottom, Jamie. Sorry. Um but yeah,

Neanderthal had it. Um and it's a uh

again, it's from a lack of equilibrium.

They say it's from the brain and the

skull, not quite fitting.

>> That makes sense.

>> I think in South America, I think that

they were mingling different bloodlines.

them the the same as you can look at a

guy that plays Reacher and tell that

he's probably got more Neanderthal in

him than I do. And they would mingle

these bloodlines and then they would get

all kinds of different Yeah, there's a

Neanderthal one. Um they would get all

kinds of different genetic variations.

And I think some of these were bad, but

some of them were honored. Like you've

seen the jaguar people of the Mech.

>> Okay. Um you ever seen uh could you pull

up the the dental dysplasia one? The kid

with the two fangs. There's there's

dental things. It'll make you grow fangs

as a child. And it also quite often will

give you a hair lip. Jaguar.

>> Whoa. And so like if you look Yeah.

And so like

>> what do you think that's from?

>> Again, this is from

>> Is that some ancient [ __ ] where people

used to have teeth like that?

>> It's it's DNA there. They again when we

crossmingle DNA. Um there should be one

uh right there about the mouths with the

uh paper. Sorry, I have to pull up the

exact

>> right. But those teeth, that's not in

any other human primate that we've ever

found.

>> No, it's it happens in ours. But with

>> So, it's just a mal foration.

>> A malf for that. And we have a lot of

that like the uh some people just keep

growing teeth. Right.

>> Right.

>> Um you know, or you get different bones

in the head. Um different shapes of the

skull.

>> I've seen the skulls, ancient skulls

with rows of teeth.

>> Yeah. Yeah. some of those um like they

don't know for sure how many of those

are legit, but the um there's there's

definitely no question that these things

happen. That's again the real problem

with this is becomes a cover up. Like a

little bit ago I mentioned that they

were all these elongated schools in the

Pacific Northwest. um Mount Coffin in

Long View, Washington. When Colonel

Charles Wilks or Lieutenant Charles

Wils, whose father happened to be a

member of the Skull and Bone Society in

England, when he got to Long View,

Washington, he saw Mount Coffin, this

place where they had these above ground

burials, and there were 3,000 of them,

all of them supposedly would have had

elongated skulls because again, if you

don't have an elongated skull in that

neck of the woods, you weren't a

freeborn person. And this was you had to

be noble to be buried there. 3,000

elongated skulls. When he left this

campfire accidentally burnt the place

down, all those skulls disappeared. Um,

that image that he Jamie skipped past a

little bit goes just a dude sitting on

pile of bones. This is an Indian burial

ground and they were just looting the

things and selling them left and right.

>> Where do you think those things are?

>> In people's house, people's hands.

>> Well, I've never heard of a story of a

person having an elongated skull in

their private collection. I have a

couple of people that have commented on

my videos saying like, "I saw one at so

and so's house in 1978, but

>> but here but I'll give you the smoking

gun though, right? If you're like some

Rockefeller type guy, you got a mansion

in Rhode Island."

>> It's funny you brought up Rockefeller in

the 30s when T down in Paracas, he he

starts putting out, hey, we've got these

elongated skulls down there and I need

money. He was getting $300 a year to

take care of them. Rockefeller gets wind

and history says flat out he took an

unexpected trip to Peru. He dropped

three grand and walked back with four

bundles. Now according to

>> that's it. Three grand.

>> Yeah. And four four grave bundles.

That's 10 times what Tel was getting a

year. 10 times what the guy was getting

a year to take care of all of them. He

coughs up four out of like 300 bundles.

Now those four bundles were supposedly

displayed at the Met. Supposedly

displayed at the National History Museum

in New York. No photos exist. No

drawings exist. They may have been

repatriated. They may not have been

repatriated. Depends on who you ask. The

AI will run you in a damn circle of

going with it. At the end of the day, we

don't know which four they what they

look like. But I can tell you this much.

There's about 300 of those bundles to

pick from. Do you think Rockefell if one

of them had great big old devil horns

and a third eye, do you think

Rockefeller left it or took it with him?

Did [ __ ] no-brainer [ __ ] Right.

Right.

>> So, the best of the best always gone.

And as soon when Rockefeller found out

that he couldn't go get the ones in the

Pacific Northwest anymore, but there was

some somewhere else, he ran there. And

right now, you sent me the video just a

little bit ago. But this is more there.

These skulls are disappearing off the

shelves in the museums right now.

>> Yeah.

>> Right as we speak. This this cover up.

There's this cover up. You I'm sure

you've seen the map. Um it a 100 years

ago they wrote drew a map of artificial

cranial deformation and then like 10

years ago they made another one. both of

these on peer-reviewed papers and the

older map has more information. There's

more the more areas they've erased. The

island of Newi had it. Ancient Hawaiian

people had about 8.9% of them that they

dig up had elongated skulls. Nobody

[ __ ] talks about that. Nobody knows

about it. If you want to go look at it,

the answer is no.

>> When you say ancient, like what year?

>> Not sure. But when they dig them up and

they start doing at prehistoric they

call it, but prehistoric in Hawaii, you

know, maybe a thousand years ago.

>> Wow. So this is all over the world

people are doing that. Well yeah that

what you're saying about the brain size

and the the base of the brain completely

makes sense.

>> Thank you. I I mean to me it seems like

the most smoke and it not only does it

smoking gun it's like it coincides with

human evolution because what would be

imagine you've got a Neanderthal and a

homo sapiion and they're talking to each

other trying to figure out a problem and

they both walk away from that with like

mad respect for the other person's

ability to see what they don't. wouldn't

they want to mingle that?

So like uh Jamie, could you pull that

picture that I got of the uh that family

tree? Um it's just it's like an empty

blank white family tree and then right

after it's the like imagine if you were

trying to make a symbol to tell

everybody, hey, this is where we mingle

bloodlines. So like this is a standard

kind of thing, right? And could you pull

up that condalabra next? should be like

>> um sorry

>> uh that same symbol basically with the

condal labra of the Andes you've seen

that right the

condal labra of the Andes is visible 12

miles out to sea okay um

if you think we're trying to draw the

draw we're trying to draw the mingling

of of bloodlines and here's a symbol of

where we're doing it [ __ ] doesn't I

mean does that kind of look uncanny. And

then could you pull up that Paracus

textile, Jamie? This one even wore. This

is when they buried people in paracus.

This was they'd put them in these

textiles. And this one textile. Look,

they're back. They look at what that try

to translate that and keep in mind what

I was just telling you. Okay. It looks

like a monkey on either side and then a

person in the middle. And it looks like

there's some sort of a transference of

something through the top of their

heads. Well, that's upside down.

>> Yeah, that's upside down. Well, there's

first of all, it looks like they did

DMT.

>> Well, clearly

>> it looks like they

>> This is Hours of Iawaska right there,

buddy.

>> 100% they were on DMT. Um, but that does

look like two monkeys, right? It looks

like they have tails,

>> doesn't it?

>> Yeah, it does.

>> And then the one in the middle looks

like the bad [ __ ] That's the

boss.

>> That's pregnant.

>> I've met that guy before.

>> You have?

>> I have. I met that guy. I met that guy

over there. But you see that notice in

the middle of the thing, he's got a

something in his tummy.

>> Uhhuh.

>> Um I mean, if you think about the same

line of reasoning, we're mixing

different blood lines to make something

more. That image kind of seems to

>> Also, they always have three fingers and

three toes. And then you get to the

tridactyl mummies.

>> I do. Yeah, look at the monkeys. I don't

know what to think about the tridactyl

mummies.

>> Neither do I. It's honestly like um I'm

of the opinion now that I think that the

genetic stuff they were doing in South

America down in Peru created a lot of

artificial created a lot of natural

weird problems and some of them would be

um like misshapen skulls and then I

think they would wrap the heads to

artificially modify them and I think

that's why down there they get so crazy

looking is because it's a combination of

genetics and of artificially playing

with it. Okay.

>> The rest of the world, they don't get

that con.

>> So, do you think maybe they had like a

bulbous roundish head but extra large?

Because there's those skulls as well

that seem to be not deformed, but they

do have a larger brain capacity.

>> Yeah. Though the ones that are bulbous

in the back, those are um that's the

most common type of cranial deformation

that you see. It's what um conly skull,

the chief that I was showing you. Um

it's uh Can you pull that one up,

please, Jamie? Sorry.

>> So, bulbous in the back. Bulbous. Yeah.

That's huge. Yeah. And that again that

would keep it. And now notice even back

a 100 years ago that picture that he was

just showing that uh

>> the other photograph. Why isn't his

skull elongated?

>> Well, it's hard to tell because he's

looking straight on. It could be.

>> All of the all of the artistic work of

him is lacking that for some reason.

>> Right. But couldn't you see that if some

Well, that one looks pretty elongated.

>> God, go back to that. That's crazy.

Imagine meeting those dudes. You'd be

like, "Yo, what are you?"

>> Check check.

>> And look, they're doing it to the baby

right there.

>> Oh, the poor kid. Oh, imagine being a

baby. You're [ __ ] strapped into that

thing.

>> Oh, man. Dave's uh in this book here, it

quotes from a book called A Story That

Used to be Required Reading up where I

live. And uh the guy that witnessed

them, one of these kids being their

headbinding, it said that their eyes

bulged out of their skull like a mouse

caught in a trap.

>> Oh my god. So when you think about that

honestly, but if your kid was going to

have migraines incessantly for the rest

of their life, you might just do that

anyway.

>> Yeah, I guess they had to do it if

you're right. If you're right about the

base of the brain, which kind of tracks

it,

>> but it to me the the the capacity of the

skulls being so much larger and some of

the Peruvian skulls is weird.

>> It is. It's a funny one, too, because

these guys will argue back and forth.

You'll get a lot of skeptics that say

there is no larger capacity, but the

guys that measure it claim that there

is, and the other guys that measure it

claim it's

>> Well, that one that we always show all

the time, Jamie, that one that I'm

really fascinated by, that one image,

it's so big. It's so big. It's so crazy.

You're looking at it and you're like,

"What is that?" That Imagine meeting

that guy. You would be freaked out like

that. That would not look at all like a

person. You would think, "Oh my god,

this guy's from another planet."

>> Yeah. Like that guy. And then there's

the sagittal suture thing that some of

them don't have the sagittal suture that

we have.

>> Yeah, that's uh Yeah. Again, um these P

>> Look at that head.

>> Look at that head, man. Also, look at

the size of the eye sockets.

>> Yeah, it's it's

>> the eye sockets are [ __ ] huge. That

person must have insane eyeballs.

Imagine what their eyes would look like

when they're looking at you. I mean, how

much bigger is that than a human's eye

socket? It's so much bigger.

That must have been a wild looking dude.

Imagine bringing that guy over your

house for a party. Your friends be like,

"Yo, who's the guy who keeps reading

everybody's mind?"

>> I know. No [ __ ] Now, I'm not playing.

If you were playing trivia, he's on my

team.

>> That guy's the freakiest one, man. The

one on the left. But what you're saying

might be accurate, right? That that

might have been a rounded thing that was

manipulated to be a a flattened thing.

>> Yeah, that's I I think that it was I

think that it was partially natural.

Like even the sagittal suture that um

this is one of the things they find with

Denise and Neanderthal DNA. That one on

the right, is that real? This

>> Yeah. Is that AI? Is that horseshit?

That's [ __ ] real.

>> Come on, man. What are we looking at?

And someone stole that. Someone's got

that in their [ __ ]

>> Rhode Island mansion.

>> Of course.

>> You know those uh Bronze Age or Gilded

Age mansions that they have in Very

weird, man. And I got into a a YouTube

rabbit hole the other day of bronze or

guilded age mansions. Oh boy.

>> In Newport, Rhode Island where all these

like [ __ ] super rich creepy people

set up their castles.

>> It's nuts, man. I guarantee if you get

in the room, there's a [ __ ] glass box

and inside of it there's one of these

skulls. It looks like it's from another

planet.

>> But yeah, and and it's so it's weird to

me that they're hiding all this. It's

it's

>> somebody's hiding all that. Well, it's

it the maybe not just somebody, but

there's definitely money behind it

because it it happens like so fast and

it hap like the the article I'll I I

will link an article in a video and

it'll be dead in two weeks and I'll have

to go [ __ ] find like I've got three

different ways to find this one thing

right now and I've downloaded it because

it's just keeps disappearing. It's the

what talks about Rockefeller buying the

skulls and it's just

>> someone scrubbing the internet of the

rockfeller scub.

>> Oh, it still shows up. But

>> you think it's because someone has them

and they're like, "Shut up."

>> I'm [ __ ] I'm 100% those school. Do you

The history says that he either

repatriated them or he left them in the

museum and it's like it so and then I

asked you asked, "Well, what's the

catalog numbers?" Oh, well, there are no

catalog numbers for human remains. Okay,

[ __ ] you. I know better than that. It's

it's and the ultimate what really gets

me is is this. They give you the same

excuse for Papa New Guinea as they do

for China, as they do for Easter Island,

as they do for Hawaii, as they do for

the Pacific Northwest, as they do for

Paracus. Well, it's about, you know,

it's about like protecting the

indigenous people's um beliefs and they

they don't want you to have like their

skulls because then that would be like

you have part of their souls. It's like,

okay, I can understand that some of them

might think this way, but we got

Menanites in Pennsylvania that don't

believe that, and they're sitting right

next door to their friends that do

believe that. Um, how am I supposed to

accept that the entire Pacific Rim

[ __ ] all falls into line? We can't

get them to do that same [ __ ] in

Pennsylvania. I don't I don't buy it.

This is This is a European thing. This

isn't a This isn't an islander thing.

This isn't a Polynesian thing that's

covering these things up. These people

are perfectly content to have their

skulls displayed. as far as we can tell.

But it's always some white dude going,

"Oh, we gota we gotta hide those [ __ ]

skulls because we got appeasy

at the end of the day. Please put all

your [ __ ] in in the in the museum so

that we can keep a good eye on it for

you. Can I see it? [ __ ] you. It's gone.

[ __ ] you. It's gone. Try to find this

online. You'll find an an image that

says no image available that has a title

and that's it. you. There was one, last

I looked, there was one copy that was in

a uh that was in a library in Malta.

>> And you really think that's because

someone's in possession of this stuff

and they're trying to squash it?

>> I think that there's a narrative there

that people don't want pushed. I think

that it might have something to do with

um I mean, let's be honest, what I'm

talking about when you start talking

about mingling different bloodlines for

different traits, this does sound

awfully eugenics, right? This does sound

like it's dipping your toes into this

kind of politically incorrect stuff. But

how is it eugenics if people just

interbred?

>> I if there was a I believe there was a

program in Paracus like uh

>> really could you pull up one of the

pictures of the person presenting the

when they would bring their jag there's

there's when those jaguar babies right

the the jaguar people in the mech

society had the hair lip and the things

like I was showing there's more than one

statue of them presenting them. Here you

go. Tada. Here's my baby. This baby's

all [ __ ] mutilated. Not like me.

Tada. There you go.

>> That baby doesn't look mutilated,

though.

>> It's uh That's not a very good image,

but yeah, it's

>> Are there any That one doesn't look That

one looks normal. It just looks like a

mother with a baby.

>> Well, you have to If you look at the top

down, both of those, they have hair lips

>> and they're missing the teeth. They're

They are jaguar babies.

>> Like that one, that last image. Yeah,

>> that's a that's a trophy skull

>> with a the only trophy skull known with

a cleft lip. You know, if you were born

with a cleft lip, even the Spanish

recorded, if you were born with a cleft

lip, uh, to their people, they would put

you in a temple as part of the workers,

you were considered holy. Six fingers

was considered holy. Deformationations

were considered holy.

>> And this trophy skull, what is, what do

you mean by that?

>> I mean that this is like a mummified

skull with a hole drilled in it. I wish

I could get a real image, but this is

the only one that exists. Is this

>> So, somebody has that somewhere in the

museum or

>> Yeah. Or somewhere? Yeah,

>> somewhere.

But yeah, there's there's a bunch of

these trophy skulls that they kept down

in South America. They would wear skulls

on their belt. They didn't shrink them

or nothing. They just drill a hole right

in the [ __ ] thing and hang it right

on their belt.

>> Yeah. But that one was especially prized

cuz that was a noble.

>> You're walking around with a noble

person's skull hanging from your belt.

That's how they would wear them.

>> I'm a badass.

>> Wow.

>> Yeah. That part of the world was never

>> So you think there's a potential that

they were creating they were breeding

people specifically.

>> Yeah. I think that they would like pick

pick bloodlines and be like, you know

what, you look more like and you look

more like and you need to have a baby

together and then

>> here's a baby.

>> Oh, we got a good one. It's a jaguar.

>> So what do you think the whole tridactyl

thing is?

>> I think some of the tridactyl mummies

look fake as [ __ ] to me, just to be

clear. the early the tiny ones

>> the little the ones that look like cake

>> but the ones that they do the cat scans

of you're like wow you know

>> and then you find out that they're like

at least 1200 years old you're like are

you telling me that 12200 years ago

someone created this

>> I think DNA would be a good way to to

get into that to begin with because

>> yeah I mean it's just weird that this is

all going on and we don't have

definitive answers and there's not also

like a mad rush amongst scientists to

discover. Are these two trophy skulls?

>> Yeah.

>> Oh, this one just has a drill hole in

the forehead and a rope attached to it.

>> They didn't [ __ ] clown around

>> with the skin on it and the hair. So,

this person is just walking around with

someone's head wrapped around their

waist.

>> The description I just read said they

were most I mean, the ones that they

found were young women,

>> like 13 or 16 years old.

>> But I don't know if that's what these

are.

>> One of them looks like a woman. The one

on the right looks like a woman.

kind of looks like.

>> That's so crazy.

>> But yeah, that's that's where things get

so weird when you go back and you

realize that entire cultures

they they they engaged in ritual

sacrifice at a mass scale like what the

Aztecs did. They did wild mass sacrifice

and they their their culture was so they

it involved sacrifice so much that they

would go out and get other people and c

that's one of the reasons why Cortez was

able to group all these other people to

attack the Aztecs. Like these

[ __ ] have been killing us

ritually forever.

>> Yeah, we're we're happy to kick these

guys' ass. Oh wait, you're not going to

help us out afterwards? Oh, my one of my

favorite stories about that afterwards

is they're like, "Okay, we need all you

guys to bring all your cotices here so

that we can we can put them on these

shelves." And so like all these

Mesoamerican cotices show up and the

Spanish fryer is like torch [ __ ]

watched them all burn.

>> Yeah.

>> And there's like a handful left that

exist now.

>> I know.

>> They just bought it like three years

ago. They bought those ones from a

family in Mexico that had had them for

like 500 years. And one of them talks

about the building of Teayoti Wakan.

>> Whoa. And the Mexican government bought

it for like 250 grand. It was like like

I was telling Matt Bell and Matt Bell's

like that's [ __ ] nothing.

>> Is that a dope trophy?

>> Some of these are [ __ ] sick.

>> Ancestor chief skull. Wow.

>> Hold on though. Wait till I get to some

of these down here.

>> Holy [ __ ]

>> So now imagine this. These are crazy.

>> Oh man. Are you sure they aren't from

Hellraiser?

>> This is like straight out of the

Predator.

>> Yeah. So these were found in Asia.

>> What?

>> My dear god. I don't this some of this

looks almost like this is like from out

of a movie set.

>> Well, they've glued like tusks onto some

of the skulls.

>> What the hell is that?

>> Whoa. Go back up a little bit.

>> Well, that look like some of

>> Yeah, that one on the right with the the

horn coming out of his nose. What the

>> human child trophy?

>> Human child trophy skull. What the [ __ ]

man?

>> How did I never hear about this before?

Well, how about the one with the

headsets on? That one's got headphones

on.

>> That's I almost

>> What the [ __ ] man?

>> Why Why does it say info email? Are you

selling these?

>> That's Yeah, I mean I I stumbled across

something here. It does say art

>> art tribal art Asia, which is doing some

weird [ __ ] But

>> yeah, that actually doesn't look like a

skull. That looks like it's carved out

of wood. Like the nose part, it's all

filled in.

>> You imagine if they you found out there

was a website you could just order

trophy skulls.

>> That's what I was I did. I was finding

recreated ones on uh Etsy that people

are making.

>> Oh,

>> it says it's a replica.

>> Lord,

>> but

>> what kind of a [ __ ] Etsy person

>> made by monster? That's the kind of

person.

>> It's like I ain't even trying to hide

it. [ __ ] I'm a monster.

>> [ __ ] dude with an Etsy page of just

skulls. That's wild,

>> boy. But you know, even uh some of these

ch heads have hair lips.

>> Like I got a a picture saved on one of

those that has it. It was And again, if

uh you mingle Neanderthal or Denise DNA

with human DNA, this is a thing is you

end up with facial deformations

including hairlets.

>> I think it's real, bro.

>> What?

>> Early 20th century diiacinized

trophy skull and it's got a name. It

costs a lot of money and they say where

it came from.

>> You could buy that.

>> Yeah.

>> Talking about

>> plug in for the price.

>> Do you think that Can you imagine if we

had a [ __ ] skull, human skull on the

desk? That's too creepy.

>> That is

>> cuz we don't know how the guy died or

the woman died.

>> A private collection from Thousand Oaks,

California.

>> Wow. See how many private collections

are out there. I was telling

>> See if you can find elongated skull for

sale.

>> I was telling you about how I got here,

honestly. I was looking. I was telling

you about that Chief Connley.

He was a huge friend to the honks that

came through that area. He he married

off his daughters to fur trappers. He

cried when they moved the fort 30 miles

away. He was like he was a bunch of

braves came up and said, "We're going to

go kill all these white guys." He's

like, "Hey, hey, hey, do you know see

how tight their tightly woven their

cloth is? Do you see how strong their

weapons are? Do you see any of their

kids or their women? Do you think this

is all they're capable of or do you

think they're going to bring more to

bear when they bring their families with

them? Let's not [ __ ] with these guys."

He was really shrewd and smart. He died

three years later. Some British dude

chopped his [ __ ] head off. They

actually had hit him. They instead of

these above above ground canoe burials,

they'd hit him because they knew. Dude

chops his head off, ships the skull back

to England. And it wasn't until this

this came out five years after they'd

repatriated the skull to the Chinuk

people.

>> But yeah, they actually carved on the

back of his [ __ ] head even like um

Yeah. Here, Chief Conley. We Here's his

skull. And here's a friend says,

>> if you can't see it, they engraved that

on the back of his skull.

>> Oh my god.

>> It's like so horrific. And uh like so

you can see why the Smithsonian might be

a little hardressed in letting this

stuff out. But um

>> well well the the Provian skulls though,

do do like when you you look at them and

you look at the monster rod, do you

think there's more to this story? Is it

is this as simple as cranial deformation

plus uh they do it on purpose or is

there a potential for a different

species of human that live there?

>> There's almost certainly in my opinion a

different species is human that live

there and I mean even you know I'm not

into the ancient alien stuff but in all

honesty I wouldn't be if if there was

aliens intermingling with humans this

would probably be the best smoking gun

place for it. There's also all the

evidence that they were building art

that you could only see from the sky.

>> Exactly.

>> Which is really weird.

>> Which is really weird. And um even

things like uh like that condalabra of

the Andes that I was that's visible

again 12 miles out to sea. Easter

Island's close enough. Imagine the guys

jumping down from right here from

Portland, Oregon. Just jumping down the

coast to Paracas.

>> Where were you drawn the conclusion that

that represents genetic engineering? I I

wouldn't have drawn it to begin with,

but it looks like a family tree and it's

like with everything else lined up all

of a sudden it's like, well, I mean, if

you're trying to say, "Hey guys, this is

where we do this. What symbol would you

use?"

>> Right?

>> And that's where, okay, if again, if

this was in a vacuum, this that's not

how I got there. This is this is kind of

the icing on the cake is the paracas

condalabra and that uh that textile

thing. The honest to god evidence is I

mean there's a lot of papers that a

handful of papers that I've got

screenshots of there but you pick your

genetic deformation and then Google it

with denis or neanderthol and almost

guar [ __ ] teed hydrophilis that big

skull thing that I showed there you see

some few of those in paracus with those

great big things hydrophilis is

something that's they is the frequency

is increased when you mingle denisven or

neanderthol DNA it's constant issue

>> that candalabra image does that image

appear in other areas?

>> It actually does. Crazily enough, it

appears in Easter Island on skulls that

are carved with that same image.

>> Wow.

>> I I I didn't put any in the file, but

I've got them in a a video. There's two

of them that they have. One is like a

straight line, and then one's like a

birdman kind of. It's But it's the same

image. It's the same.

>> When you say skull, do you mean human?

>> I mean, a deceated like those we were

just looking at. So, a dead human that

has that on their head

>> that they scratched it in afterwards

like that. There's a the par the uh

Easter Island had elongated skulls, but

almost all of those are gone. Um they're

and they're hard to find images of, like

impossible, but they do have these. Um

and they were like they would do artwork

on skulls after they would die. And a

few of them do strongly resemble the

condol.

>> And is that condol is that anywhere else

down there? Is it aware of?

>> Not that I've seen.

>> Can I see that again, please? The

candalabra, cuz uh the family tree

thing, it's like is it the same

configuration on the Easter Island

heads? Um or is it similar? The uh it's

it's not identical, but it's really

what? Look for uh Easter Island modified

skull, Jamie, and that'll probably pull

up the uh it'll be a paper. I doubt

you'll find it. Uh,

I doubt you'll find it in the images

section, but if you click all, there

should be a paper that the um, yeah,

maybe you have to go to Google Scholar

to find it. I apologize, but uh,

>> it's okay.

>> Yeah, they've there is there's artwork

on these things and a handful of them

that is uh,

>> I'll find something here.

>> There's artwork on a few on two of them

in particular that's got that that same

fork symbol. And one of them they they

call a bird that a bird man. There we

go. Bam. There's the bird man.

>> And then they're on the same page. You

should see. Good job, Jamie. You're a

[ __ ] pimp. See, they did a bunch of

art on these skulls, but two of them

have that same symbol.

Do they show that here?

>> They're right there.

>> It's got that thing similar.

>> Super similar.

>> Yeah. They're not identical for sure,

but it's it does have the same three

things forking together to make.

>> So, it's just a theory that that's the

tree of life

>> or that the family tree rather.

>> Yeah. No, that's totally again that that

the family tree thing is completely uh

completely my thing. Um I'm way

>> this one represents a penis entering a

vulva

>> right in the back of his head.

>> He drew it on his head. That guy was

like the earliest bad tattoo art ever.

Maybe they were honoring person's

ability to deep throat

>> this far back.

>> [ __ ] gave you skull. You knew it.

>> X marks the spot.

>> But yeah, again I the this the imagery

and stuff. I can't be 100%. All right. I

mean, you can never be 100% of this

stuff. But the genetic

those wormian bones I showed you on the

back, they call them Inca bones for a

reason because they show up in the Inca.

They the Incas have a higher the South

American and Peru, they have a higher

instance of cleft pallets. They have a

higher instance of polyactyl. They have

just pick your [ __ ] thing that's in

line with all this and it it happens

more there than it does almost anywhere

else in the world. And then when you see

everything else, the elongated skulls

that frankly beggared belief um imagery

and stuff that seems to the way that

they praised genetic deformations. It

seems almost unthinkable they wouldn't

be trying to imagine if everybody in

your society praised kids that were

looked a certain way. Wouldn't you

necess I mean wouldn't some people want

to have kids that look that way?

>> Right. And there was probably some

benefit that also came with that.

>> Exactly. I mean again an intellect

>> they went well something

>> even if it was just a social even the

kid could be think about this one person

born with those weird teeth and a cleft

pallet that's also a little Einsteiny.

Oh it takes one from every now on it's

like you this guy looks like Einstein.

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That's like when people in the uh 1400s

were getting syphilis and they all

started wearing the big wigs.

>> Exactly. Exactly.

>> It just took that one royal family with

syphilis to wear wigs and everybody's

like got to wear a wig.

>> That's that isn't that it's got to we

follow these trends, right? It's it's

people are weird that way, but here we

are.

>> That's a weird one. that the the the the

higher classification of a person who is

born with other human DNA that's given

them specific traits. But the thing

about the monsterat stuff and that

doesn't seem like a human the if the if

that's real the three fingers and the

three toes and don't they have extra

ribs?

>> Yeah,

>> something like that or extra vertebrae

>> that

>> the size of the head. The whole thing

looks so weird. You're like, "Okay, is

if this really has been carbon dated to

12,200 years ago, if that's legit, what

is that?" Because that I don't think

that 1,200 years ago people were capable

of recreating something like that that's

going to survive at a CAT scan.

>> Why would you do the kind of work that

they did that you can only see from a

CAT scan? Because the entire outside of

it is covered. Yeah.

>> Right. It's got the the the white clay

and it's all mummified and there's

tissue that's mummified.

Yeah. How? No, that's I

>> How the [ __ ] did you do that?

>> That's a very that's I mean that's

that's a good point. And again that uh

the the one gene that's responsible for

polyactyli when they they uh in mice

when they introduced it to the the GLI3

variant that happens in Denise and

Neanderthal in mice caused extra ribs,

extra vertebrae, skull misshapen, dental

morphology [ __ ] up, and sometimes

extra fingers. Sometimes good extra

fingers, sometimes bad extra fingers.

>> Did the mice figure out how to get out

of the cage? I don't think so.

>> They start get really smart. You start

leaving notes.

>> Pink scratch notes in the window. Let me

out.

>> Pinky, today we conquer the world.

>> Well, do you think the Smithsonian has

had giant bones?

>> Yes. I not only that, but this is funny.

When I was here last time, I would have

I would have told you. I don't think so.

I mean, maybe 6'5, but I've done a lot

of research in it since then. [ __ ]

Okay. One dude who I'm sure I'll get his

name wrong. His name was Als Hyda. He

was a guy from Hungary who was a medical

doctor. He had this theory that's a lot

like uh the same theory of frenology

like uh Leonardo DiCaprio poking on the

back of the skull. Boy, that makes you

docel.

>> Um except for it was all-encompassing

with the skeleton. He believed that you

could do it with arms and bone arm bones

and leg bones and all of it.

>> So he left medical science to become an

anthropologist to push that narrative.

He [ __ ] said it point blank. And then

he goes out and says, "Oh, all these

Indian bones that you guys have that are

bigger than white people bones." Didn't

happen. This guy's got a vested interest

in proving that white people are

superior. And that he believes that you

prove this by the skeletons. And he

comes out and debunks all the giant

bones. And the way he did it, he's like,

"Oh, see these bones? These aren't giant

bones." It's like, "Dude, that's Yeah.

When I get pulled over by the cop, I

pull out the I don't have any drugs on

me, officer. See, these are cigarettes."

What year was this again?

>> Uh 1930s.

>> And there are there images of these

bones this guy's displaying?

>> Very very little. It's almost all of

this has just been scrubbed. It's So

what was he saying those bones were?

>> He was just saying that he said that

people mis mismeasured them. This is

where it gets really really ugly. It's

he accuses people. Some of these guys

were really good at their job and he'll

accuse them of mismeasuring them and not

knowing how to properly apply a tape

measure. And the worst example of this

in 1959, 20 years after this dude's done

this, one of the dude in charge of the

department of the humanities at the

Carnegie Museum, Dr. Don Doo, dug up in

one of these Adena mounds a a skeleton

and he says according to the inground

measurements, this indicates an

individual that in life would have been

7 foot 3 in tall.

They debunk it by saying, well, this is

just an ingground measurement. This is

just it's it has he didn't do any other

uh any other work with it or anything.

It's like the man flat out said it

indicates he was is 1959 15 years after

they had all the mathematical formula

for doing skeletons. This guy they threw

him straight under the [ __ ] bus to

debunk that skeleton that you can't find

anywhere because they won't show it to

you. So it it's like and this was in 59

again and and a guy in charge of a big

department of the Carnegie Museum, not

Dan digging in the backyard. So

>> is there a chain of custody of that

skeleton? Like can that be traced?

>> Un all the way to the Carnegie Museum

where we don't know what happened to it

now. This is this is a consistent issue

with these remains. If it's a giant bone

or an elongated skull and you want to

know more about it, real good chance

you're not going to be able to find

anything. So what do you think was going

on? Do you think there was a completely

different species of enormous people?

>> Maybe. or maybe even just some of us

that had the different just some some

different DNA in us than somebody else,

you know, just a little bit of, you

know, I mean, honestly,

>> the six finger, six toe thing

>> keeps coming up.

>> Yeah, that's um again, you know, we get

that now with just a little bit in

Neanderthal DNA, right? So, you get

different species that had more Denisven

in them than us and still technically

might be the same species, but not

>> Do you think it's possible that these

giants were Denos Denosovvens?

It's possible

>> because Dennis Hovvens were a lot larger

than us, right?

>> Yeah. At least six inches, I say. Yeah.

>> And if you had a big one, like there's

Shaq, right? And there's me, you know

what I mean? Like if you have a really

big one, like isn't it possible that

there's a range of even those things?

Like we only have a couple bones, right?

And I think there's something that just

came out from China about Homo

Juluencis,

you know, that they think it might be

Dennis Oven that it might be the same

thing, right?

>> Yeah. Dragon Man, the same thing. That's

been out for a little bit now. But yeah,

they're

>> there was something that was like super

recent where they were proposing cuz I

think they're trying to figure out what

what we're talking about, but we were

talking about it from just a couple of

bones. There's not a lot of It's not

like they had a whole graveyard filled

of Denosovvens with various heights and

weights and they can get an estimation

of like what the medium was.

>> Oh yeah. The vast majority of what we

know about them comes from DNA,

>> right?

>> Vast majority.

>> Yeah. So we have a few bones.

>> Yeah.

>> But then it's like how big how big were

they? Like is this a 12 foot tall

person? Is that real?

>> They Well,

>> there's five foot tall people and

there's nine foot tall people. Exactly.

>> What's the tallest person today? Like 8

foot

>> alive now? I'm not sure, but like Robert