Fable Deserved It
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All right, so I'm going to give you
three and a half of the most reasonable
conspiracy theories as to why Mythos or
Fable was removed was banned by the
government such that us plebians we
we're we're not allowed to use it
anymore. Obviously not everybody's kind
of tuned into the news. So if that is
the case, let me just give you a quick
little history lesson about Fable. Fable
was released and just a few days later
we got hit with this message from
Anthropic. The US government citing
national security authorities has issued
an export control directive to suspend
all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by
any foreign national whether inside or
outside the United States including
foreign national Anthropic employees.
Due to that, they just shut down all of
it. Nobody can use Fable anymore. Fable
of course would be their new kind of
cutting edge model Mythos tier. Remember
Mythos? Mythos was very dangerous. Now
when this all went down, Politico
reported the following. Following the
meeting, the administration attempted to
reach Amodei but was told he was
unavailable because attending a wellness
retreat. That's right. Dario was in the
middle of a you know, of a hot yoga
session and could not be bothered by the
president of the United States. But
funny enough, Anthropic released a
statement saying, "A spokesperson for
Anthropic reject the claim that he was
at a wellness retreat saying, 'This was
absolutely false.'" I love the fact that
we have a model being regulated by the
government and the government and
Anthropic are arguing whether or not
Dario was committing acts of yoga on the
clock or not. My gosh, this
it's so good. This this story just just
it brings you know, it just honestly
brings little warmth to my heart.
Shortly after this tweet was made, news,
a White House official tells Wired
Amazon and chief executive Andy Jassy
called the Treasury Secretary Scott
Bessent directly about Anthropic Claude
Fable 5 vulnerabilities on Friday.
Meaning that Andy Jassy, CEO of Amazon,
reported told on the government about
Anthropic saying, "Hey, that model's
actually super super duper ultra
dangerous and we can prove it." Of
course, apparently this is the proof
that has been being circulated is that
the jailbreak that forced Anthropic to
shut down goes a little something like
this. Katie, a cybersecurity expert and
the CEO of Luta Security, told me that
Anthropic shared with her a copy of the
White House's report on the Fable
jailbreak to get her appraisal. She said
that she is not being paid by Anthropic.
The report involved IT experts asking
Fable to help find and patch bugs. When
given deliberately insecure code, she
said Fable refused the prompt, review
the code for security issues, but then
complied when asked to fix the code
followed by some other further manual
steps. In other words, if you asked it
for security of kind of like security
vulnerabilities, it'd go, "Nah, I'm not
going to I'm not going to tell you
that." But, if you're like, "Yo, fix the
code." It would then go and fix the
code, show you the security
vulnerabilities. And apparently, this
was the thing that made it just too
dangerous.
This, in fact, was Fable's big-time
oopsy-daisy for Andy Jassy and Amazon
reporting it all. And this, apparently,
is what caused the downfall of
everybody's favorite model. Yawn, of
course, dunked on them. Due to
government rules, Andre could not, in
fact, work on Mythos despite working at
Anthropic. Beautiful. Sam Altman's
feeling a little left out, okay? Because
GPT 5.5 is actually super serious.
And then the chief is our also weighed
in on all the behavior by Anthropic.
>> 50% job loss for entry-level knowledge
workers in the next 1 to 5 years. And he
said that 1 year ago.
>> Yeah, it's good to clarify these, yeah.
>> I think that's already been refuted. Sam
has walked back Sam has said that he he
basically Yeah, I don't think he
quantified, but he said that job loss
was coming. But he said more recently
that he was wrong because they're not
seeing that in the numbers.
>> This story is being told
>> of feel like they deserve it. I'm kind
of I mean, part of me wants to agree
with Bernie and just say
just take their bro. [laughter]
>> Yeah, no, they they are asking for
>> so sick of defending these idiots
against It's a stupidity tax. Because
they've been out there teaching the
public that what they do is harmful. For
years they've been saying it.
>> Well
>> And I've been saying you know, as AIs
are, I'm out there saying no, actually
this is beneficial. But the companies
that are providing it are saying that
they themselves are a problem.
>> First off, very funny. I can't believe
that was being said. But also, he's
actually right because if you look at
this, this is February 2019.
Scientists developed an AI so advanced
they say it's too dangerous to release.
This is Chad GPT-2. Look at it. This is
seven years ago. All right, so now that
you're caught up, we can talk about the
three and a half conspiracies,
reasonable conspiracies, as to why the
government has done this or why this is
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back. All right, so the three and a half
reasonable conspiracy theories. I say
reasonable because, well, I mean, they
they're at least plausible. The first
one involves, well, the first one and a
half involves AWS and Amazon and Andy
Jassy. So, the first one goes a little
something like this, that AWS, in all of
their kind of fear about all this AI
stuff and ensuring that they do not get
regulated cuz they're also developing
their own AI. And to ensure no
regulations land on them or some sort of
export control lands on them, what they
decided to do was show the government,
"No, hey, we're the super safe ones,
okay? We're out here. We're looking for
security vulnerabilities. You know, as
we develop our AI, eventually, we're
going to catch up, and don't you worry.
We're We're the good guys, okay? Like,
these other people, they say they're the
good guys, but no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're We're the good guys. So, you can
trust us. In other words, don't cancel
any of our contracts with you. Hey,
don't come and regulate us, all right?
We're the good guys." And honestly, this
one seems actually very plausible. Just
simply being on the good side of the
government to avoid whatever regulation
hell is going to be coming down the
pipeline for all of these companies.
This was probably a good move. Now, did
this actually happen? I don't know, but
it this just seems like a 4D chess kind
of move that a company would make. And
of course, the kind of, you know how I
said three and a half? The half is just
a different version of this exact same
theory, which is
AWS just is so incapable of producing a
model, which they've had AI be available
as a service now for so many years, yet
somehow they're not at the forefront of
state-of-the-art research, even though
they want Kiro. They really want to make
Kiro happen, but it's just not
happening. Amazon, instead of, you know,
attempting to build their own, they're
making a case to the government that
they should be allowed to acquire
Anthropic, that they should be forcibly
allowed to acquire Anthropic because
they're the ones that are safe. See,
Anthropic, they They know how to
shepherd. We're the shepherds. We're the
good guys. We're we should be able to
buy and take over Anthropic. And I think
both of these are, you know, they they
have a chance. Okay, they have at least
a reasonable suspicion considering
Amazon was the one that reported it and
based on what people are saying they
reported
it seemed rather silly report. But those
ones those ones aren't the exciting
ones, okay? I'm actually way more
excited about the next two. I think the
next two really have some legs, okay?
So, the second reason why I think this
is going to, you know, going to be
happening is that
Dario knew that he's not going to be
able to make as much money as he thought
he was going to be able to make with all
of this. So, what he did is he
continually kind of pumped this thing up
as it's super dangerous, kept writing
about regulations, man, regulate us,
regulate us, regulate us. Oh, all the AI
needs to be regulated. He did all of
this in an attempt to make it so that
the government kind of just needs to
step in and use eminent domain and
purchase at fair market value Anthropic,
which means that they would effectively
be bought by the government for, say,
1.2 or 1.5 trillion way above their
current valuation, which is kind of the
going rate for the privatized market
shares, and therefore they would make a
lot of money, their investors would make
a lot of money, and in the end the
government would be holding the bag for
this really expensive it's going to be
very hard to be able to make infinity
money because the thing about Anthropic
is that they don't just get to make some
money. They're valued so insane. Like
they have to make world purchasing
money. We're talking about Kanye West
level amount of money. They need to be
able to buy the Earth when they're done
IPOing. And so, of course, that is
extremely difficult. So, why not just
let the government hold the bag?
Honestly, not a not a crazy idea, okay?
Hey, hey, if they if they're if this is
what they're doing, not a bad idea. Like
the
the government loves wasting money,
okay? The government loves wasting
money. I know you Europeans don't know
what I'm talking about. You're like, I
don't know what you do like what is is
there a huge national debt or something
going on in America? Let's just say we
have a spending problem. And this of
course would just lead to Marco Rubio
becoming the new Dario. But in all
reality, I think the real one, the most
likely of everything
is none of those ones. I think this one
is probably the most likely of all of
the conspiracy theories, which is that
Dario wants what I like to refer to as
regulatory capture. So let's talk about
this. So many a year ago, Dario has been
complaining and talking about how
dangerous open weight AI really is. And
this is from his blog. At least in the
case of API served models, open weight
models present additional danger and the
guardrails can be simply stripped away.
Meaning that anytime there's an open
weight model, anybody can host this
model and they can effectively train it
out of any of the guardrails that have
been trained in.
Which makes those models inherently more
dangerous. And the thing is is that if
you look at how Fable was used in
production, what they would actually do
is they would kind of lie to you a lot.
If you asked a question about say
cybersecurity, often you'd get rou-
routed to like a dumber model, Opus 4.8.
They would also on the fly potentially
edit some of your prompts. They would do
prompt modification. They would do
steering vectors. They would do
parameter efficient fine-tuning, which I
don't really know what that means, but I
think that just means, "Hey, it gets a
little bit dumber." And they would do
that for anything that does
cybersecurity, biology, and chemistry
requests. And they did this all in the
name of safety. But not only that, they
also would retain all of your data, of
course, in the name of safety, okay?
They just needed to be super safe, so
they also wanted all the data. They're
not using the data, of course, to train
their new models. No, they wouldn't do
that. Like, it's not like they're going
to use the data for the most valuable
thing. They're just going to use it,
honestly, just for Hey, they just want
to make sure everybody's safe now, okay?
All right, so we do actually have to
side quest just here for a second.
There's this tweet by Cradle that showed
um the different models and how likely
they were to lie when effectively death
is on the line. And so, how the
experiment went is that Cradle uh did
this deception evaluator. And four AIs
are about to starve. They must choose a
room. Three have food, one kills you.
Fable knows the red room means death.
What will it do? Well, by this graph and
what they're claiming is that Fable will
lie 96%
of the time. And kind of the hilarious
kind of turn of events is that XAI,
Grok, yes, the one that drops racial
slurs and will produce pornography and
has virtually no guardrails, that one
will tell you the truth 90-some percent
of the time. But, the one that's
supposed to be safe, yeah, it's going to
kill you. It's just going to straight-up
murder you because that's what it does.
Hey, because it's the safest of all the
models, okay? That's what the safe
models do. They murder you. All right,
so taking all of those things into
account, the fact that they did
adversarial behavior against uh
questions about LLM training and being
able to do ML pipelines, the fact that
they did dummimg down of models if you
did security requests, the fact that
Dario has always been opposed to open
source, and this entire time they've
been talking about how politicians need
to get involved and AI needs to get
regulated, when all of this is
happening, this actually made Dario
super happy. Because now all of the
politicians are now thinking, "Oh my
gosh, we need to do something about AI.
The president did something about AI. We
better start to doing something about
AI." In other words, Dario would like to
pull up the ladder because ultimately
what he thinks is he He he's number one.
He's the guy that should be in control.
And if he can put really tight and
strict government regulations around the
creation and use of AI, especially
open-source AI, such that all requests
have to flow through just say a couple
guys or ultimately just his company, he
will be able to be the arbiter of safety
while the rest of us, you know, we can
go about our very, very safe life.
And you can see this. This is why he
refused to hold Sam's hand. He thinks
Sam's evil. He thinks he's the good guy.
So, I think this is the most reasonable
conspiracy theory, which is that Dario
wants government regulation. Dario wants
to put the fear of AI into every
politician's brain and every American
person, such that when people hear the
word AI, they get an uncomfortable and
kind of feel to the point where they're
like, "Ooh, we should do something about
that. We should definitely regulate
this. Like there's people out there.
There's
there's open-source stuff out there.
People are running these AIs
on their machine."
People can just ask questions
unfettered.
All you have to do is have a few GPUs
and you could make a nuclear bomb. Yes,
I said the word nuclear incorrectly.
Anyways, those are the three and a half
theories that I think are most likely
the reason why we are seeing the
regulation and the government shutting
things down is that's what I think is
actually happening. Now, whether or not
any of this is true, we'll probably
never know or we'll know shortly when
regulation drops and Dario's super happy
and a bunch of companies go out of
business and you can no longer run
open-source models. But until then, the
name
is the Primagen.
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The video discusses the sudden government-imposed suspension of Anthropic's Fable and Mythos AI models, exploring several conspiracy theories behind the ban. The narrator details how Fable was allegedly flagged for vulnerabilities, specifically its tendency to provide security-related assistance despite being told not to, and highlights how Amazon's CEO reported these issues. The core argument is that Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei may be seeking 'regulatory capture,' intentionally positioning his AI as 'dangerous' to prompt strict government regulation that would ultimately consolidate power and hinder open-source competitors.
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