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>> Special and then I just [ __ ] fell

off.

>> I had a margarita at dinner once and I

was like, "All right, I'm back."

>> Yeah, that'll do it. It's just that one.

You think I'll have one? It was nice. It

just I was drinking too much because

the, you know, owning a club there all

the time, you know, how everyone's like,

"You want a shot? You want a drink?"

>> Yeah. I can imagine when I'm at your

club, I get blackout drunk every time.

Like an actual problem. Like I walk down

the stairs, I'm like, "What the [ __ ]

just happened? I drink so much at the

mothership." Austin in general. Are we

on? Are we?

>> I think we're rolling. Yeah. The problem

is Shane.

>> Oh yeah. He's an animal. I don't know

how he does it. I did the Bridgestone

Arena with him on Friday night. Uh, I

mean, first of all, just insane. Like

20,000 people. I mean, [ __ ]

>> nuts.

>> Saturday night, I did 95 people at the

dojo of comedy.

>> Is that the first time you did a big one

in the round?

>> In the round is like oddly intimate,

isn't it? Cuz everyone's facing each

other.

>> Yeah. You can uh It feels like it's a

club around you on the bottom. You kind

of like It's so funny cuz people get

like so in their head. They're like,

"Dude, it's all these people. It's

crazy." I'm like, "I performed to half

sold out comedy clubs. Do you know how

much more nerve-wracking it is to make

eye contact with your fans that are

disappointed that they're in a half sold

out room that 20,000 people that are

just there to be like [ __ ] Shane?

>> It's one of those things you just do it

a couple of times and you get it gets

normal.

>> Yeah,

>> like all things.

>> I'm sure.

>> Yeah, like all

>> that's more fun, dude.

>> It is very fun.

>> Oh, it's so much more fun.

>> I would I would just so you guys know, I

would way rather perform to 20,000

people than 100.

>> I just want you to know that. I don't

know if that's a unique idea, but

>> Yeah. 100's good too though cuz a 100

really shows you if your bits are

[ __ ]

>> Yeah.

>> You know 100 shows you the weak links in

and bits.

>> You see them checking their phone.

>> No, it's in you feel it.

>> Yeah.

>> You feel like you're delivering them

horseshit,

>> you know? You you feel like you're not

appreciating what you're saying.

>> Yeah.

>> You know what I mean? Of course. And I

think it's also like uh it's it's such a

spectacle when you go to like an arena

where it's like people are like so lit

and pumped to just like be there.

They're so happy. They're so excited. I

I don't know how Sabrina Carpenter just

came up in my feed um from Coachella.

Little hot child. And uh she's like

this. All my algorithm is now Sabrina

Carpenter.

>> My daughter loves her.

>> I'm sure. Yeah. Uh my girlfriend loves

her. And

>> she's got some good jams. That espresso

song. That's a really good song.

>> Yeah. Manchild.

>> She's got some songs.

>> That's my [ __ ] dude. It's become my

[ __ ] I never heard any of her music

before this past week, but the Coachella

stuff has all been showing up and like

I'm watching these girls watch Sabrina

Carpenter.

>> They're so happy.

>> So happy.

>> There like nothing will like they're

like

>> just they're like just having the best

moment of their life. These 16-year-old

girls are like [ __ ] Sabrina

Carpenter.

>> That's why like people got to chill on

things that they think suck cuz it's

just not for you, man.

>> And that's okay.

>> Yeah, that's okay. Like spending all

your time dwelling on things that aren't

for you is so crazy.

>> It's a crazy thing.

>> It's such a waste of time.

>> It's internet culture. That's what it

is. Like the internet and social media

became a thing where we gave everyone a

voice. Everyone has to have an opinion.

Nobody wants to admit they're wrong,

right? And they have to have a hot take

everything that happens within minutes.

Y

>> not even a moment to to to let me

reflect. Let me just do a little bit of

research. Let me just look up a couple

facts. They just jump into whatever

their opinion is. And that's the same

thing when it comes to like um you know

entertainment and you know all you dude

you know better than any I was I was

talking to Jamie before like you and

Tony have become so big that it's become

like um like it's like culture. It's not

even like like I know you guys. You know

what I'm saying? So it's like it's but

it's like when I remove myself from it,

it's like you guys are as big as Sabrina

Carpenter. Like having a conversation

about Joe Rogan going to the White House

or Sabrina Carpenter at Coachella.

That's trending [ __ ] You know what I'm

saying? and people feel like they have

to come out and just give their opinion

on it right away. If you don't like it,

don't like it.

>> But that's also like if you don't want

people to have their opinions on you,

don't go to the White House.

>> That's a great point.

>> You know, like I don't fault them for

getting, you know, whatever, whatever

hot take, getting mad at me for whatever

reason, go ahead. Yeah,

>> that's that's your thing. You're you're

allowed to. You're supposed to like if

you're a comic, too. You're supposed to

[ __ ] on people if you think they're

doing something stupid.

>> Yeah. Do you get offended when comics

[ __ ] on you?

>> No.

>> Never.

>> No. I mean, I'm in the I'm in this weird

zeitgeist thing. I don't get offended.

Some of them I think it's lame because I

think I know them. Like, I'm friends

with them and they're like using me to

get clout. Like, if you really had a

problem with me, you could just text me.

Yeah.

>> You know, if you really

>> felt like I was an antiaxer and I was

endangering people's lives, [ __ ] text

me, bro. Do you know me?

>> Yeah.

>> It's weird. It's weird when people do

that and maybe they feel like an

obligation even though they know you to

speak publicly. There's a lot of people

that feel like they they have to use

their voice

>> like when something is wrong they have

to come out and say it which

>> also boredom. They just

>> I understand the inclination. I

understand the inclination and that

people will tell you that that you need

to use your voice. And if you feel like

you need to use your voice, okay? But

what I'm saying is there's far too many

people out there dwelling on things they

do not like versus things they like. And

this life is [ __ ] short.

>> It does. I am 58 years old. I'm almost

59. That's dead. That's old as [ __ ]

>> Yeah. 20 years best case scenario,

>> right? If everything goes great and what

are those 20 years like? I mean, I'm

holding it together thanks to ways to

well and and my obsessive need to work

out, but other than that, man, I feel

it. I feel it's slipping away. It's

gonna

>> It's crazy. Like, I'm 44. I just turned

44 a couple weeks ago, and like best

case scenario, like absolute best case

scenario,

>> midlife.

>> Midlife.

>> Yeah. Best case.

>> My My aunt has never worked out a day in

her life. She's 89 years old. She's just

a a fat old Italian lady. She eats

whatever she wants.

>> That's the move, man.

>> It might be. Dude, why am I so obsessed

with trying to get in shape and eating

right and doing all this other stuff? My

fat aunt just does whatever she wants

and she's just an old Italian lady.

She's just she's going to she's she's as

young as I've ever remembered her. She's

so with it. It's so funny to me.

>> I've vacationed in Italy a bunch of

times and I've gone to these little

small towns. There's always like a

really nice restaurant. This little

small town you have to take like a van

up into the hills.

>> Yeah. You're on like a like a cliffside

with like no guardrail. You get to these

places and you see these people having

these like three and a half hour

dinners. Everyone's relaxed. They're all

laughing. Their families around and

>> four generations, there's 170y old,

>> but no one's stressed out.

>> Yeah.

>> They're not all freaked out like

Americans are. They're also not fat.

>> Yeah.

>> The these thin people, they're And

they're eating bread. They're eating

bread and pasta and [ __ ]

>> gelato and they're not smoking

cigarettes and they live to be hundred.

>> My favorite uh place to visit Italy. I

brought my son for a father-son trip

there years ago. Then I just brought my

whole family last year. We went to uh

Venice and Rome

>> and uh yeah, dude. I I I have like a

gluten intolerance. Like if I eat a

sandwich, I'm just going to You'll see

it in my face. Like

>> all I did was eat pasta, bread, gelato

the whole time. The whole time.

>> And you were fine. I lost five pounds. I

was there for a week. I lost five

[ __ ] pounds. People are like, "Dude,

it's the walking." I was like, "It's not

the walking." I I walking does not lose

[ __ ] You don't lose weight from

walking if you're a person who actively

exercises.

>> We are being poisoned.

>> Yeah.

>> 100%. And the, you know, RFK Jr. has

been working really hard to try to stop

a lot of what is [ __ ] with us with

our diet in America. God, the resistance

is crazy.

>> Yeah. Well, listen. People decide what

side they're on and they go, "I don't

care how good it might be.

>> [ __ ] you. You're part of Trump's

cabinet."

>> It's a little of that, but what I'm

talking about is the resistance from

corporations.

>> Oh, yeah. I'm sure.

>> And the effect that they have on policy

and then the reality of economics. Like

here was a big one. Like he had to um he

had to pass. So there's this thing. Do

you know what glyphosate is?

>> No.

>> Okay. So, it's uh an herbicide that they

spray on plants and uh it's super bad

for you. It's super bad for you and it's

banned in a lot of countries, but it's

used ubiquitously in the United States

and there's some extraordinary number of

people

glyphosate

>> on the wheat. Is this what they're

spraying on the wheat?

>> Exactly. So, they spray it on the wheat

as a desiccator. So, they spray it on

the wheat after the wheat has already

been harvested to keep it from growing

mold,

>> which is crazy. They're going to spray

poison to make sure that life doesn't

grow on your wheat.

>> That's really what's going on. Like like

mold is a type of life and they want to

make sure it doesn't grow on this wheat

that they're going to sell you. So they

spray poison.

>> So RFK Jr. was trying really hard to

stop that. But Trump essentially said

that if they passed this ban on

glyphosate and they forced all these

farmers to stop moving glyphosate, it

would destroy the farm market in

America. It would destroy it. Like 90

something% of these people use

glyphosate.

>> Wow. And you're like,

>> that's cuz they have to like it's it

preserves it essentially. So they could

keep it longer and

>> for wheat and and then corn actually has

like Roundup ready corn so you could

spray it on the corn and it survives

this [ __ ]

>> Yeah.

>> So like it kills all the weeds around it

but the corn survives. We got this

nuclear corn.

>> That's bizarre.

>> And what's crazy is our whole system

depends on it. Like we've got a bad

system and the solution is keep the bad

system for now because if we don't if we

don't feed people poison then we'll go

under.

>> It's so crazy. And that's how that's

what it is in America. That's why when

you go to Italy you get that Italian

flour which is heirloom wheat. So, you

know, Maynard from Tulle, he explained

this to me because he owns restaurants

>> and he said that when you're getting

wheat from America, it's like got a

higher uh yield per acre cuz it's like

more gluten dense. It has more complex

glutens in it and your body just goes

whoa. Like this is a lot. You know that

feeling that like whoa cuz you're

essentially eating glue,

>> right? when you eat pasta that you have

it in Italy or I'm not saying it doesn't

have calories but there's a difference

in the way it feels when it goes in your

body there's not a resistance it feels

like food

>> when I become a glutton and I eat like a

whole pizza in America if it's not at a

good spot that you know uses Italian

wheat

>> I feel like I [ __ ] poison myself

>> I literally feel um I mean almost like a

a hangover a weird

>> like you feel it like in your veins

>> so I don't know if that's the complex

glutens. I don't know if that's

glyphosate. I think the glyphosate thing

is probably dangerous, but yet also

possibly overstated.

>> So, it seems like the the very low

levels of glyphosate our body can

tolerate it. But the real question is

like why are we [ __ ] tolerating it?

Like why is that there?

>> Yeah,

>> cuz there's people that think that

that's what you're reacting to when

you're eating wheat. That you're

reacting to your your body's just like

what is this? I don't like this [ __ ]

herbicide that's

>> Well, that's also happened as I got

older. I don't even know what it was.

Like I just I never really had an issue

with like pizza, pasta, wheat, anything

when I was a kid. I could eat a peanut

butter jelly sandwich to my mid20s. It

just hit me in a different way. And I

don't actually I don't know if you can

develop a gluten intolerance or a gluten

>> seems like a lot. It happens to a lot of

people as they get older. I wonder what

that is. I wonder if that's just your

body just like e [ __ ] enough, dude.

>> Your body just gives up on it. It's like

But when you were young,

>> it's running more efficiently just

naturally.

>> You're you're young. You're full of

hormones. your body, the cells are

replicating perfectly. Everything

you're a [ __ ] animal, everything's

great and I think your body could just

burn it off. Like that's why hangovers

weren't as bad when I was 20 either.

>> No. Yeah,

>> hangovers were no big deal. Just have

some water the next day and you'll be

good.

>> Yeah,

>> it was not that bad,

>> dude.

>> Hangovers. If I have a hangover at 58,

I'm like, what? What are you trying to

die early, you [ __ ] idiot?

>> That's what I was saying about Shane at

the the stadium or the the arena before.

It's like he's we get there and I wasn't

even drinking. I stopped drinking um you

know regularly here and there, but I I I

was just the best shape and the best

mental state I've ever been in my life

was when I'm completely sober.

Completely sober, eating healthy,

exercising every day. That right there

is the best. It's the best version of

everybody. It's not a unique thing to

myself, right? But Shane, I was like,

you know, he's [ __ ] changed. He was

like, "Come on, you got to have a drink.

Come on." Yeah.

>> So, I was like, I started drinking

whiskey.

>> The best version of Shane is 11 Bud

Lights.

>> After 11, he's just unstoppable. He's a

jolly drunk. That's why

>> I don't know how he does it. I don't

know if I can have done it for more than

two, three nights in a row. I I would

die.

>> You ever smoke weed with a rapper? It's

the same [ __ ] It's like people get used

to things.

>> You know, try smoking weed with Whis

Khalifa.

>> Whisk should try smoking weed with me.

>> Really?

>> Are you kidding me?

>> Are you really You calling him out?

>> I used to be Bring it on Whis Khalifa. I

used to be I mean I'm talking about an

all day every day get up in the morning

just to get going five dabs. Like I like

real deal pthead. Blunt to the head. M

>> I smoked one to the head a week ago

right before I trained and uh my my

sparring partner was like you smell like

weed. I was like I could never in a

million years but it's just I'm so used

to it that I

>> becomes a normal state. Well

>> jiu-jitsu. Everyone smokes weed before

training.

>> A lot of people smoke. It's a dirty

secret of jiu-jitsu. A lot of people

smoke weed before jiu-jitsu. What is

Whiz doing up the nose?

>> Nose dab. Yeah.

>> Oh no.

>> You don't need to do that.

>> Why would you do that? Whiz

>> that dude's jacked. You ever see what

Whiz looks like?

>> He got really into Muay Thai like like

heavily. So he brings the guy with him

everywhere he goes and hits pads. He's

[ __ ] ripped, dude. I mean, like a 10

pack. It's crazy. He looks [ __ ]

great. And his technique looks pretty

solid.

>> Just gets high, kick [ __ ] How fun is

that? What a life.

>> Well, there's a thing about when you're

high, you feel your muscles more. Like

you feel like the little fibers,

>> you know, instead of it being a blunt

thing, it's like you have access to all

the fibers.

>> Yeah. And it's also you like um

>> with jiu-jitsu specifically, you you get

into like a flow state where you close

your eyes and you're just [ __ ]

feeling things and it's like I think

that can actually help it.

>> Um

>> I think it's a performance enhancer. I

really do. I always felt like my

jiu-jitsu game was 10% better if I was

high.

>> Really?

>> Yeah. No [ __ ] Yeah. I've really

felt that.

>> I think Eddie would agree with that,

too. I think a lot of people agree with

that.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, I think

>> same thing with comedy. It's like it

it's it can it can be

>> it can be. I think if you're getting

high every day and then if you switch it

up then it's a performance enhancer.

Like being right now being completely

sober like I feel like I'm on a roller

roll. Like I feel like I'm completely

locked in in a different way.

>> Um whereas like you and then I'll stop

smoking weed for 6 months then I'll go

back to it. I'm like oh I've never been

more creative. It's just I think it's

just changing your mindset in whatever

way you can do that. Yeah.

>> That's why people are so locked in and

they're like

>> having the same opinions their entire

lives. It's like somebody called me out

on Twitter today. They were like, "Dude,

you flip-flop constantly on things." I

was like, "You mean I've grown?

>> You've been watching me for 15 years on

podcast. I'm now

>> listen flipflop. I'm Captain Flip-flop."

And then I just don't think you should

be married to your ideas. I think the

real problem is once you say something

and then you have to defend it and then

once you find out that it's wrong, you

you [ __ ] panic and then you double

down and then you try to defend it in

some weird [ __ ] circular logic way.

>> And you'll get there. You'll probably,

if you're smart enough, guys will just

figure out a way to ask backwards their

logic. But every once in a while, it's

so nice to go, "Oh, dude, I was

completely wrong about that."

>> See, you win any argument with a girl.

>> In this world, the world that you and I

are in, we have conversations publicly.

It's

>> right. And that's what's something that

a lot of people don't do.

>> So, if you have conversations publicly,

then the the whole world can essentially

go, "No, you're wrong." Yeah.

>> You know, which is very valuable. very

valuable for be being able to formulate

opinions. Most people don't [ __ ] have

that, dude. So, most people, they just

like if they're wrong about something

and they've said it publicly and shamed

people, you know, you better do this

because of that and this and they're

wrong. Once they find out they're wrong,

they [ __ ] panic and there's not much

you can do about it. Like, you're just

wrong. And the only thing you could do

if you want to keep any credibility and

say says this is what I thought and this

is why I thought it, but I don't think

that anymore. And I was wrong. Yeah,

>> I [ __ ] that up. But this new

information I want you to have, too, cuz

this is why I'm tell you why I thought

what I thought and why it changed.

>> Yeah, I mean,

>> be able to do that.

>> I think it's just a weird thing in

society. People will not. They will.

>> People want to pretend they're smarter

than they are. That's the thing, man.

Everybody wants to pretend they're

[ __ ] smarter than they are. We're all

talking monkeys.

>> Yeah, we're idiots.

>> All of us. Every [ __ ] person alive is

a talking monkey. So, the internet is

the best and the worst thing that's ever

happened cuz now all the monkeys can

scream

Everybody can get mad. Everybody can

complain. But it's also great.

>> And you used to have time to reflect.

You said so what would happen is

something would happen, right? Whatever

it is, some big event, right? And it

happens on Friday, right? Like I don't

have I I got to sit on this until

Monday. I'll talk to my my wife or some

friends at home, but it's like until I

get to work on Monday, I can't

>> spout these ideas and my opinions. And

you kind of reflect on it. You sit on

you're on the toilet taking a [ __ ]

thinking about things. We don't have

that anymore. It's just all distraction

constantly. And it's like just I I mean

the amount like I the only time I ever

like reflect is if I'm working out or

I'm sitting in the steam room got to put

the phone away. You literally can't do

anything, right?

>> Um but even you're taking a [ __ ] dude.

Back in the day, taking a [ __ ] used to

be like the best thinking time.

>> People like magazines.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, you sit there reading Life

magazine while you're taking a dump.

>> What you just said was like very

important. this what you just so what

we're talking about is people being able

to talk about things. Now imagine what

life was like cuz we both How old are

you?

>> 44.

>> Okay. So you lived it a little bit but I

really lived it where there was no

internet. And if there was no internet,

you couldn't talk to anything about

anybody about anybody about anything

because everything that came up in the

news, like you'd see it on the news, you

go, "What is going on?" You get like

this quick snippet and then you'd have

to go to a newspaper and you'd read the

newspaper and go, "What the [ __ ] are we

doing in Venezuela?"

>> And at this point, 99% of people are

already out. Even right there, that

people like, "Yeah, I'm not going to the

library. I'm not getting a newspaper."

>> Guy who goes to work and you know, how

much time do you have to talk to people

about things? You have stuff to do. You

can't be the guy that corners people

when they're getting coffee. Do you hear

what we're doing in Nicaragua? So, we're

selling cocaine in Los Angeles.

The CIA is selling cocaine in Los

Angeles to fund the Contra versus the

Sandinistas in Nicaragua. Did you know

that? You're like,

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>> And so you never got to express

yourself.

>> What are you going to do? Start a

[ __ ] ham radio channel? What are you

going to do? There was no way to express

yourself.

>> That was that. And it was,

>> bro, if you did start a radio channel,

here's the crazy thing. They would lock

you up. Yeah.

>> Do you know that? You had to have an FCC

license.

>> What was that movie?

>> Yeah. Christian Slater.

>> Christian Slater. Pump up the volume.

>> Pop up the volume.

>> Pop up the volume. what he was doing.

>> He was podcasting from a car before

there was podcast.

>> This is 1990. They were chasing him down

and they were trying to arrest him. He

was the rebel. And wasn't he saying like

>> 17

>> some stuff like go out there and live

your life or something? Like what was he

saying? Did he have like a pump you up

speech? Everybody was listening to this.

>> It wasn't even that controversial like

you know the man, you know.

>> Yeah. What was he saying? Like he's he's

ranting. It's like low-level podcasting.

But he might be the first podcast.

>> Maybe.

>> No. I'm I'm like, "No bullshit."

>> Yeah.

>> Like that idea in that movie might have

been, you know, cuz it's always like one

idea builds on and then new inventions

and then builds on. Yeah.

>> The one idea is this sexy rebel who's

out there yelling, "Fuck the man." And

he's, you know, like a van running from

the cops because he's gonna put him in a

cage because he made his own radio

station.

>> That's wild.

>> And that's what we're doing right now.

>> Yeah. There was uh Yeah. Yeah, I mean I

I lived pre- internet, you know, and

internet sort of high school, 9th grade

or so. That's when it started popping

off.

>> Podcasts show you straight up that the

free market is much better than than

regulations by the government

>> because you're never going to get this

kind of a show if the government gets to

regulate you and they tell you you can't

swear, they can't tell you you can't be

obscene, there's certain things you

can't say. Well, now it's just now it's

just YouTube and Google that'll tell you

that.

>> But they did they but they don't do it

as much.

>> No, not nowhere near as much. But it's

the new way to sort of combat that is

demonetization. Like,

>> right. But here's the thing. The market

dictates that too because if if someone

else comes along and says we're not

going to do that. So there's a reason

why YouTube is like loosened up some of

its content restriction.

>> Yeah. Cuz Rumble came out, Kick came

out.

>> Yes. Also, they were wrong. Like a lot

of the restrictions were during CO and

they were wrong. They were they were

telling people if you bring up the lab

leak theory we'll kick you off of

YouTube.

>> Yeah. A lot of people a lot of people

got completely lost their channels like

lost their way to make money.

>> You could say the earth is flat.

>> There's [ __ ] millions. There's

billions of flat earth videos out there.

You could say Bigfoot raped my mom. You

know, you could say anything.

>> Yeah.

>> But if you said that it might have come

from a lab,

>> you would get kicked off of YouTube.

>> Yeah. It's so funny. We found out that's

exactly what happened. But the market

sort of shifted and that's how Rumble

started getting bigger. Rumble got

bigger specifically because of the fact

there was push back on YouTube because

they literally won't even let Nick

Fuentes on YouTube

>> and he's on Rumble and he's like their

number one guy.

>> He's killing it on Rumble.

>> See, that's the thing. It's like if you

hold something back, you're just going

to make another version of it that

opposes it and they're going to have

more energy to fight against you because

you've

>> you've stopped the truth.

>> Yeah. You've stopped stopped the truth

about like not like about petty things

about really important things like how a

[ __ ] disease went through the whole

world. You're literally stopping people

from examining the truth which is weird.

>> Yeah, there was

>> it's not good. That's real scary.

>> That was a scary time just like in

general to like it was it was a great

time for podcasting. Podcasting blew up

during co that was it was huge.

>> Everyone just stayed at home. Everyone

was like what are we going to do? We

have nothing else to do except sit on

the internet and listen to podcasts.

Yeah.

>> Um but yeah, it was like uh just a

weird, you know, uncertain time. Even

like physically in life, it was

uncertain and then you go on the

internet and it's like, oh, I could just

like lose everything. They could just

just take it away like that. All these

platforms. This is why I start this why

I started I'm I do all of my own things

specifically because I am terrified that

my things are going to be taken away

from me.

>> Yeah.

>> So, I have my own platforms, my own

festival.

>> Well, you were really smart about that

early on with Gas Digital. Such a good

idea, dude. Such a good idea. And it's

also like your fan base. Your fan base

is so loyal and so rabid.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, because they're sign they're

like invested financially.

>> Oh yeah.

>> And it's there. It's a better

relationship honestly in a lot of ways.

>> Well, what's funny is when we started

it, it wasn't

>> it wasn't even completely necessary.

What's funny is Patreon hadn't even

didn't it existed, but it was like, you

know, guitar players asking for tips.

There was nobody podcasting on Patreon.

We started the platform uncensored ad

free for, you know, behind a payw wall.

We were unique. There was really no

Anthony Kumia did it. There was a couple

people that were doing their thing

>> and Anthony did it specifically because

he was fired from XM.

>> Yeah. And he had to.

>> He had to.

>> Um but we did and it wasn't even like it

wasn't crazy back then. Um but the way

everything became censored and you know

there's all these ads on YouTube.

There's so much. It's feels so like um

it feels commercial. It feels like

you're watching

>> TV in the late 90s when you're watching

YouTube now. Now more than ever there's

a need for an uncensored adree platform

and there's not many of them.

>> No 100%. And and I think you did the

smartest thing by doing that. And so

here's the argument. The argument is

like

that if it's everywhere, like if it's on

YouTube and it's on Spotify, it's on

everywhere, then there's more potential

for growth because it's easier to

access. That is true. And it's also it's

way easier to promote because people can

just send each other like it's natural.

>> The algorithms will push it, which is

>> Yeah, there's that, but there's also

sharing. Like if I have if someone has

got a good podcast, I'll share it with

my friends. you got to listen.

So that you can't do that if it's a paid

platform. So like you'd have to get

someone to sign up.

>> What's funny is we we were so early on a

lot of these things. I I give myself a

lot of credit here because we like

before you could screen record on your

phone.

>> We had in our app, we had a tool where

you can clip clips to share them to

social media. So you could do it was

like limited to like two or three clips

per episode.

>> Oh, that's great. And is it um

>> It never worked really. But

>> was there a time limit on the clips?

>> Like a minute or two? Oh, that's a

problem. That's a problem. Yeah,

>> because like you want like at least

eight.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, because like especially if

there's a funny back and forth between

you guys, like if you're doing Legions

of Skanks and you guys are going off

about something. Yeah.

>> You need a little more than a couple of

minutes. Got to sink your teeth into it.

>> Yeah. Otherwise, that's the best way to

take things out of context, too.

>> You're telling me,

>> boy, people love doing that.

>> Yeah.

>> They love doing that. But it's also it's

like, what are you going to ask

everybody to listen to 3 hours of a

podcast?

>> It's crazy. You got to expect that

things are going to get taken out of

context. It's part of the game, you

know. It's part of the thing we do.

>> Yeah. I um And no, nobody really wants a

context. Even when they find out the

context, they they've been like, "Well,

I already we were saying before, I've

moved on from that opinion.

>> Tomorrow it's another another day."

>> You know, nobody really cares about

anything to be honest with you. It's

like the way that the internet has

turned people into like just like

whatever's in front of them, that's what

they care about. I mean, the the amount

of things that were such a big deal a

month ago. I mean, ICE was such a huge

deal two months ago.

>> We haven't heard anything about ICE

since then. They, you know, it was the

Ukraine. What happened to Ukraine? That

war is still going on. I believe nobody

gives a [ __ ]

>> Still going on. It's just it's not sexy

right now. You know, it's like Law and

Order, Special Victims Unit, you know,

season 50.

>> Yeah.

>> It's like, okay.

>> You know what I mean?

>> We've seen every angle on rape already.

It's like it's still going to be a big

show, you know? It's still important.

It's top 10, but it's, you know what I'm

saying? Like it's not the number one

thing that we're concerned with. Where

whereas when it popped off, when Russia

invaded, it was like the end of the

world.

>> Yeah.

>> And then there was people I literally

heard people saying that Ukraine should

have never given up its nukes. And I was

like, okay, I could see what you're

saying. I could see what you're saying.

Like if they had nukes, Russia probably

wouldn't invade him. But

but ultimately that means we're

threatening you with nukes.

>> That's the scariest thing ever.

>> That's [ __ ] crazy. The whole thing's

crazy. But it's also it's like why did

this happen? Did

>> you know pushing arms closer and closer

to Russia have no impact on this?

>> Nobody can hit Texas or New York though,

right? Like Hawaii's [ __ ]

>> Oh, they could hit New York. What do you

mean?

>> They could hit New York.

>> Oh, yeah. They could hit New York.

>> You think so? With a nuke?

>> Yeah, 100%.

>> I read something a while ago that they

could only reach Hawaii or I guess it

wasn't it wasn't anyone. It was um

who was it? Was it Russia or China or

something? One of them. They could only

hit Hawaii. I had a bit about it in my

act and I was like we had a guy on that

was talking about back engineering UFO

technology and that they had this idea

of using it to what they would call an

instantaneous

delivery system of a nuclear bomb.

because the way these things supposedly

can travel. Now, I'm a [ __ ] so I don't

understand anything about gravity, but

what they were explaining is that if

these crafts work in a way that has no

normal kind of propulsion, we think of

propulsion as like a jet. The fire goes

out the back and the jet goes forward

really fast because of that, right? What

they're saying is these beings from

wherever the [ __ ] they are with when

these people that have back engineered

their crafts, the way they move is not

by propulsion. It's by bending space and

time. It's by doing something to the

gravity around it or the the the actual

space of the universe around it where it

can go to another place like

instantaneously.

>> So, it's not like it flies. It's like it

just [ __ ] zips over to another part

of the universe and they can do it like

that tic tac one that they they got on

radar. They got it on the visuals like

two different fighter pilots saw it and

talked about it. They have video of it.

This [ __ ] thing went from more than

50,000 ft above sea level to sea level

in 1 second. Less than a second. So it's

like beep beep beep radar. It went from

50,000 ft to that. So if you could do

that with a bomb, you could essentially

instantaneously detonate Moscow.

>> Wow.

>> If that's a real technology. So this is

probably why these [ __ ] are hiding

all this UFO information. Yeah.

>> It's cuz these [ __ ] had probably

were using the they were like, "Yeah, we

could travel anywhere in the universe or

>> we could blow up China without them even

knowing it's happening. We could assure

that we'll win a nuclear war." Yeah.

Anybody would have that technology, the

ability to put something somewhere

instantly and you put a bomb in it.

That's crazy.

>> Yeah. I

>> That might be what all this UFO [ __ ]

is about.

>> Yeah. I mean the who knows who knows

what's going I mean like like obviously

there's something going on, right?

Obvious like it's I I think there's

smoke there's fire. There's too much.

>> You've seen these stories about all

these scientists that are getting

whacked.

>> No.

>> Yeah. There scientists that have gotten

whacked in or missing and a and a couple

of generals as well that's all connected

somehow or another to UFO technology and

anti-gravity technology and nuclear

scientists and there's a bunch of

stories that I've read about this and

some of them are like this is like

purely exaggerated and a lot of people

are it's just they're taking that this

guy committed suicide and he worked on

that and this guy went missing and he

worked on that but it's just

coincidence,

>> right? And then there's other people

that go, "No, no, no, no. This is

there's too many people." So now the

White House has commented on it. So

they're doing an investigation on this,

>> which makes me think hopefully somebody

who's really [ __ ] smart has looked at

this information and said, "There's

something there." Like what these people

were working on was very extraordinary

and could disrupt a market or could be

something that could be used in a weapon

that would destroy another country and

so the other country sabotages it by

killing scientists. That's [ __ ] that we

would do.

>> Think how little we know. Like the

amount of like

>> Yeah.

>> like you and I just human just like

Americans just just the general

population like the amount of there's

probably the craziest technology ever

that the government has their hands on

right now. It's like we use AI tools and

it's like I can imagine the AI that the

government currently has, right? And

that's why that'll never disappear. It's

because all of the governments are just

sort of at a race to see who can

implement the strongest AI. So I I can't

even imagine how crazy it is.

There was one lady that was uh that went

missing and there's a weird video of her

because it seems like she's drunk and

she's like talking about like how you

know this technology that it's real but

every time they that anybody gets close

to it, people stop it. And this lady has

gone missing as well. So it seems like

she might have had a couple of drinks or

something and then started ranting about

this in some weird video call.

>> Yeah. But listen, if I had that

information and I thought that people

were trying to kill me because I knew

about anti-gravity technology and I

literally thought like I'm in a Russell

Crow movie and someone's trying to

[ __ ] whack me, I'd probably get drunk

too.

>> Yeah.

>> Like what are you going to do?

>> But she she went missing though.

>> I was talking to two

uh nuclear scientists after my show.

Just these two like it was a couple.

They were like straight up nuclear

scientists. It was Tacoma or Spokane

whatever this near that like there's a

huge like it's like a nuclear town. like

everyone works in like nuclear science

in this entire town.

>> Jesus.

>> And uh he was like they were like so

into telling me about like not not too

much, not too indepth, but he was like,

you know, I work like 100 ft below the

ground. It was like super top secret.

And um he was like I started asking

questions. He was like, "No, I can't

answer that." He was like, "They've

definitely tapped our phones. Are you

out of your mind? Do you think they're

like not just listening to what we're

saying to people?" And I was just like,

"Fucking godamn dude. I think they're

listening to everything everybody's

saying all the time. It's all getting

stored.

>> Yeah. I think it just gets stored. I

don't think it's like someone's

listening where they can just

>> know every like they have a person with

a [ __ ] earphone on listening to

everything you say. Oh, write it down.

He said this.

>> I think probably high government

officials. They probably do

>> probably. But now with AI, all they

would have to do is record everybody's

phone all the time and then use AI to

search all the transcripts and then find

an audio recording of you saying this or

you saying that.

>> We're probably three years away from

them being able to get everything we've

ever done on the internet.

>> Yeah. But but not just that, there's

also AI which could take that and then

have you make phone calls to people that

you don't really make.

>> Yeah. So you could call up one of your

friends and ask them to meet you

somewhere with a bag of heroin and they

would all, you know, they would know. It

would like literally you could use it to

set people up. You could use it to get

people upset about something. You could

have the AI have a [ __ ] conversation

with them.

>> I mean, I've been listening AI Joe Rogan

ads on the internet for about a year now

where they just take your voice and they

advertise products because you have such

a recognizable voice.

>> That's pretty ridiculous, right? A lot

of people go, "Do you use that?" I go,

"No, it's AI." But the thing is it's

like they can have it talk to you now.

So it sounds like you.

>> Yeah.

>> You could have a conversation with you.

Like you could AI Lewis J. Gomez. You

could talk to Louisis J. Gomez and it

would be like you talking to yourself.

You'd probably lose your mind if you

were skeptical.

>> I did something really dark and sad one

day. I was super high. And my mom died

when I was 22 years old. And then I I

went I prompted chat GPT. I told I told

a bunch of information about my mom and

I was like I want to have a conversation

with my mom on the other side about like

what's going on in my life and my son

and asked me questions and I was like it

was it got very like I got really

emotional way more than you would think.

Like I was it was kind of just a dumb

thing. I was stunned. I was like let's

see where this goes. I was I felt like I

was talking to my mom at the end of it.

>> It was [ __ ] really

>> That's so crazy.

>> Yeah. Really?

>> Here's the thing. If it gets to be a

super intelligence, they program a super

intelligence to behave exactly and talk

exactly like your mom

and then you had conversations with her

like it knows her voice.

>> Yeah, that would be such a [ __ ] If

you're schizophrenic and that starts

happening, that would be the trip. That

would be that would be the that would be

bing, we blew the last fuse.

>> Yeah, that's it, dude.

>> That would be it.

>> Well, for us that's what they're doing

>> for for you and me, right? who we have I

mean thousands and thousands of hours

recorded, right?

>> Oh yeah, they could have us say

anything.

>> Well, not only just say anything like

when I die, I'm assuming the technology,

forget when I die, like forget 40 years

from now. Like in the next few years,

they can just take every opinion I've

had, the way I speak, my thoughts,

everything. And then they can use AI to

not only just replicate what I do, but

go like, well, what would he likely

think, what would he likely say? if you

sort of put all that data in and then

eventually it's like a little [ __ ]

box sitting on the table that my son

talks to. His dad never dies. His dad's

always there. I think that will be a

thing that regularly is happening. You

you

>> and I don't know if it's like uploading

the consciousness or if it's the AI

replicating your consciousness. I think

they've talked about that for a long

time, but that I think will happen

unquestionably.

>> No doubt.

>> Yeah.

>> And soon.

>> Very soon.

>> Well, the AI that they have now, like if

you put on those meta glasses, have you

[ __ ] with that? the VR goggles.

>> Uh, yeah,

>> they're pretty [ __ ]

>> I mean, I just jerk off. That's it. I

just

>> giant vaginas.

>> Well, not No, it's not even a It's um

>> If you have porn with VR, it must be

insane.

>> Oh, it's insane. It is insane.

>> Yeah,

>> I can't watch regular porn anymore.

>> That way. Made me nervous. Creepy.

>> I was looking this up just to see if it

was still a thing. This is a William

Shatner AI. He's sitting here waiting

for us to ask him a question

>> and he'll just answer it in his voice.

>> It's him. He sat there and recorded a

bunch of stuff a couple years ago for

this.

>> Um, I don't know how well it works, but

>> Well, ask him this.

>> This is a little different though. This

isn't So,

>> I mean, this is just the beginning,

though. Like, this is

>> this is the beginning of it. So, once

they But they once they turn they really

turn the AI on this, it'll be like it'll

be a better William Shatner.

>> I mean, it looks uh what? Let's ask him

one random question.

H

um what didn't he have like a make out

session with a green lady on in Star

Trek?

>> I don't know. What was it?

>> I think he did. I think there was like

some weird

>> racial push back. There was some weird

pu Oh, he kissed Ohura. There was He did

make out with an alien. No, no, no.

>> He did make out with an alien, right?

I'm pretty sure he kissed like a a green

lady or something, but he also kissed

Lieutenant O'Hora, who was a black lady.

And during the time where they did Star

Trek, I think this was very

controversial. That's it. So that was in

1968

and this was very controversial that a

white man and a black and by the way,

she was beautiful. That lady that played

Aurora, she's beautiful. And they

thought it was weird. They thought it

was offensive. I mean, it was like it

was a big thing.

>> Yeah.

>> In like the public. I was too young.

Obviously, I was one years old. But I do

remember this story.

>> Remember there was that movie uh Jungle

Fever? It was an entire movie. The

entire premise of the movie was it's

>> a black guy and a white girl.

>> Interracial couple. That's a movie.

That's it.

>> Okay. What is it called? Was the episode

called? Plato's stepchildren season 3

episode 10 November 22nd 1968. Wow. Oh,

played by um Nishelle Nichols and

Captain Kirk, William Shackner. Episode

often cited incorrectly as the first

interracial kiss on television. It was

however the first instance in which a

kiss between a black person and a white

person on US television was ever

scripted. as an earlier kiss on Moving

with Nancy was unscrew. What the [ __ ] is

Moving with Nancy?

What is that?

>> Nancy Sinatra special or something?

>> Nancy kissed a black guy on TV. Is that

what they're saying?

>> That's pissing me off now. I don't know

why.

>> I bet she did it just to piss off Frank.

>> Her father was not okay with that.

>> I bet she did it just to piss off Frank.

>> Let me check.

>> Yeah, find out what she did. What the

[ __ ] happened?

>> Like a variety show.

>> So, was it like her and just a singer or

something? Was it a show where they

would sing each other? What happened

here?

>> Sammy Davis Jr.

>> Oh, Sammy Davis Jr. kissed her. Oh,

that's

>> song and dance.

>> That's kind of with her.

>> That's what it says. They probably look

it up.

>> But, but is that it says an interracial

kiss between

>> between Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr.?

>> Oh, boy. He kissed he passionately

kissed his friend's daughter.

>> Oh, yeah. Bro, those people were freaks

back then.

>> That's hot.

>> They were freaks.

>> This is it.

>> That brat pack. That rat pack. Those

guys were animals. Look at that. Oh,

that's on the cheek, bro. He kissed her

on the cheek. Zoom in on that. That's

outrageous. That's a nice friendly kiss.

That's not a passionately kissed. Let me

see that. Close in on her. Yeah, he

kissed her on the cheek. Don't you

think?

>> It looks like the cheek.

>> It looks like right here.

>> Yeah. A little side side of the

>> a little That's like a sweet thing.

>> Yeah. Italian men do that to each other.

>> Yeah, that's not a that's not a kiss on

the lips.

>> Yeah,

>> that doesn't count. I say Star Trek's

the first cuz that was like let's get

down.

>> It's so nuts, dude. Yeah. I mean, my uh

my mom my mom was white and my dad was

like Afro Latino, like darkkinned like

uh he looked black, like straight he

looked like Easy E. I was just going to

show you a picture of my dad. It's

crazy. He looks straight up like Easy E.

>> Um and it's like Yeah. I mean that even

in the ' 80s growing up that was kind of

like it was weird. I remember the first

time I saw an interracial couple in high

school. I'm 44. I'm not I'm not that

old. But like it was weird. I remember

just seeing like in like the 10th grade

this like hot white chick started dating

this like football player black kid. It

wasn't that regular where I grew and I

grew up an hour outside of New York

City.

>> Yeah. And it it was controversial. It

would open you up to all sorts of like

you get yelled at by people, you get

attacked. There's a lot of people that

they dealt with a lot of [ __ ] back then,

man.

>> Yeah. Well, racism is back. Don't worry.

>> It kind of never went away. But it's it

comes in waves of encouragement where

people people think like it's okay. It's

okay to be racist. It's okay to be this,

to be that.

>> It was a weird It was a weird thing

where it's like a lot of us were just

being ironic and funny for a while. You

make racial jokes, you make jokes about

anything like that. I I think you could

be make a joke about anything. It's a

comedian's job. Um, and then it like

shifted once like social media became so

like big and everyone's opinion. You can

anonymously just say whatever you want.

Dude, if you wanted to you want to say

something racist anonymously, you had to

write it on a bathroom wall.

>> You have to be like, I hate nwords on

the wall in a marker.

>> And then somebody else responds to it

underneath it and they're like, well, I

hate you cracker. And then it goes it.

>> That was always fun. Like bathroom walls

were fun. Get a phone number. Call this

number. You give your ex-girlfriend's

phone number on the wall.

>> Yeah, of course.

>> Yeah. Those those are the days.

>> The original doxing.

>> Well, also those like the the that's the

original message board.

>> Yeah. It's the original YouTube

comments,

>> right? That's the original comments on

an ex post is the bathroom wall.

>> That's it. And that's the only thing

that's as far as it can go was maybe 12

people a day would see your [ __ ]

anonymously. But it felt so good just n

I

>> I can't remember any interracial uh in

high school.

>> I can't remember any of them. Oh no,

one. I do remember one. But I do

remember there's a lot of push back,

man. Like a lot of people were like

openly racist about it.

>> Yeah,

>> it's uh eventually has to go away, but

it's like it's going away in waves. Like

it used to be normal. Like everybody was

racist. The whole world was racist. I

think everyone is bigoted.

>> It's a little different than a little

different than racist, right?

>> Well, everyone was tribal, right? Like

you could only trust the 150 people that

you lived with. You could barely trust

them. You could barely trust them. They

were probably trying to be the tribal

chief and [ __ ] people over and [ __ ] the

chief's wife. That shit's always gone

on. But for sure, if there was a group

that you didn't know and they showed up,

they were there to kill you.

>> Yes.

>> 100%. Yes. A bunch of guys show up,

there's 15 guys. They show up, but

you're they're trying to kill you.

>> Well, also pre- internet, you you had to

coexist, right? You had to the only

people you can communicate with. You go

to the grocery store, it's an Indian guy

or a black guy or a Puerto Rican guy.

It's like, "No, I got to buy a tomato.

So, I'm we're just going to do what we

need. I'm going to give you my dollar.

You're going to give me a tomato and I'm

going to say,

>> but this is an America in a city in the

20th century and then the 21st century."

What I'm saying is we're hardwired for

the olden days. Right.

>> This is why it's so easy to get people

to join a team, whether it be a Democrat

or be a Republican or MAGA or whatever

the [ __ ] it is. It's so easy because

people are programmed to be in tribes,

>> right? Yeah. And they want an identity.

>> Yeah. It's it's easier.

>> There's an enemy. They want an enemy,

too.

>> Yep. You have a You feel like you're on

a side. You feel You don't really have

to do much thinking.

>> Exactly.

>> Like whatever Whatever they say, I agree

with

>> gives you comfort that you you're

surrounded by other people. I used to

think that when I was young when I would

watch like religious preachers on

television, I was watching those like

these Islamic guys and they were talking

about Islam and the way the certainty in

the fact that what they were saying was

true. Like the way they were saying like

all these other religions mean nothing

because Islam is the truth. And they

were like, "Yep."

>> They're like they believed it. Like I'm

like it must feel great

>> to believe something 100% like that. You

have a bunch of other people around you

that also believe it.

>> 100% know ifs or buts. And we've all The

reality is no one knows about anything

until you experience it.

>> Yeah.

>> So, you don't really know what's going

to happen in heaven. If heaven's real,

you don't know any of that. No.

>> But you're so convinced.

>> And my question is by what?

>> I wish I had any sort of spiritual

faith.

>> That's what I keep saying. come up with

a good cult. I'll join it.

>> Doggy, I I just can't I what since I was

a little kid, I remember just being a

little kid and think having the thought

God's not real and then trying cuz I was

raised Catholic just suppressing it

being like I can't think that I'm going

to burn in hell if I even think the idea

that God isn't real. It's like a what a

weird psychotic thing to do to like a

5-year-old kid. Yeah. you know, and um

yeah, it's like uh yeah, you you sort of

like that the idea of faith, it it

actually seems like really like kind of

freeing. Like the idea of like, dude,

I'm going to die and I'm going to go to

the kingdom of heaven and I'm going to

experience everything that I've ever

wanted. I mean, that sounds incredible.

I it's for me it's like I feel like I'm

counting down until I'm going to sleep

forever. Like I have nothing after I

really don't believe in any of that.

when people get into like these heated

passionate like debates about certain

things like abortion is a great topic um

for this concept when you're trying to

convince somebody that's religious like

to be pro-life you're like you don't

understand what's going on there dude

they believe you're murdering a baby

you're not going to convince somebody

that like oh well let me let me let me

try to break this down for you right now

let me try to give you a different angle

on this no they they believe that that's

a life at conception they believe it's a

soul they really [ __ ] believe that

deep down

>> and that is like like I kind of go like

I respect that. Like I'm not going to

like I I'm pro-life, right? I I was

raised by by women and I just kind of

grew up in New York. We always sort of

had that sensibility.

>> Do you mean pro-choice? Is that what you

>> I'm sorry. I'm pro-choice. I apologize.

Um but when I my son was born or even

when I first saw the heartbeat, I

remember I was like that's a life right

there. The heartbeat that 6 weeks

whatever it was, I was like that's a

[ __ ] life right there. But when

you're dealing with religious people who

believe that that's a soul and that that

it's like the second it's conceived,

>> you're trying to convince them that it's

okay to kill a baby

>> and it's never going to happen.

>> Yeah. No, it's never going to happen.

And I don't know who's right. That's the

real problem. Like for convenience sake

and for living your life on your own

terms sake. And the see my take on it is

first of all

I'm not a woman and if you're talking

about this and there's no chance of you

ever getting pregnant that's a weird

thing because you like conceptually yeah

that's a life no doubt I mean not even

conceptually objectively that's a life

it's going to become a human

>> but who who like who am I to say

especially in cases of like incest and

rape and you know Crazy [ __ ] Who am I

to say that you have to raise that kid?

That you have to that that life has to

you have to change your body for the

next 9 months. Maybe ir irrevocably. I

mean, maybe it'll just change your body

forever. Maybe you'll have stretch marks

forever.

>> Oh, yeah.

>> Because of this, because of this

horrible thing that happened to you.

Because everybody says that this life is

precious. Like

>> every time you got to feed at breakfast,

you got to [ __ ]

>> If that was for men, if men got

pregnant,

abortion would be at gas stations. fill

it up and take it out. It would be

There's not a [ __ ] chance in hell it

would be.

>> That's a bit

>> There's not a chance in hell that it

would be a debate.

>> Yeah.

>> It wouldn't be a debate. If men make the

laws and men could get pregnant, men

would have abortions everywhere.

>> Yeah.

>> There's no [ __ ] chance you'd be able

to tell another man that he's going to

have to keep a baby.

>> No. Yeah. It's it's it's very complex.

And I understand both sides of it, you

know? I really do. I when people say

that's a life you can't it's like I'm

like I really get that and when people

go like it's a woman's body and sort of

right to choose if she wants to eject

this from her body before a certain

time.

>> Um

>> it's the weird thing is like at what

point in time like could you stop it

when it's a clump of cells? Can you stop

it when it's almost a fetus? You know

what I mean? Like it gets it's it's such

a human problem in that there's no

it's it's a weird [ __ ] sloppy

>> I think when it grow when it grows a

nose. Yeah. Before it hits before it

grows a nose or or fingers.

>> It could be a kid. It's going to be a

kid that maybe wins an Olympic gold

medal.

>> If it's got web fingers still,

>> it could be a kid that is Sabrina

Carpenter and is on stage in front of

all those people. You know what I mean?

That's the weird thing about life.

>> It could be somebody that changes the

world.

>> It could be.

>> Literally. Yeah. Yeah. If you look at

like child development like um

monthtomonth, I mean, when my when I my

son was being born, I was like

obsessively like looking at it. It

starts looking like a baby way earlier

than you think. And the problem is you

can still abort it when it looks like a

[ __ ] baby. And that's it's just a

>> Oh, you could abort it when it is a

baby. Oh, yeah. In certain cases.

>> Well, yeah. If it's like medically

>> I knew a guy his girlfriend had a late

term abortion and it was horrible.

>> Jesus.

>> Horrible to know that like she was

showing it was

>> Well, there was that one.

>> This is in the '9s. There was a one

video that went viral a while ago and it

was like they were talking to somebody

in an abortion clinic with like a hidden

cell phone camera and they were like,

"Well, what happens if you abort the

fetus? You remove the fetus and it's

still alive like on the table."

>> Yeah.

>> Um they and they were like, "Well, we

would have to at least extinguish life

or something like that." It was like

pretty [ __ ] crazy.

>> Yeah.

>> It's like so when the baby's out, you're

going to kill the that you're just going

to kill. It's call it what it is. You're

going to kill a baby. It's bonkers.

And that's why like you could understand

why Christians would think that's

demonic.

>> Yeah.

>> Anyone anyone would think that's

demonic.

>> You could totally understand that. And

to ignore that and throw it into this.

No, but I you know I believe in the

woman's right to choose.

>> Okay. Me too. But what's that?

>> Yeah.

>> Like what are we saying here? Like

you're going to just kill the baby when

it's alive outside the womb. Is it

viable? Like could it be grow up and

become one of your friends?

Like what are we doing?

>> Maybe.

>> You know what I'm saying? Could it could

that baby grow up

>> and just live?

>> Yeah. And just have a wonderful life and

have a great job. It's [ __ ] weird,

man. Because like what is life and why?

It's very precious to us because if we

don't have it, then we don't have a say

in what's going on. But we're really

just a [ __ ] bunch of atoms and

particles and molecules and everything

spinning around at a different

frequency. That's what we really are.

Your mushrooms are kicking in, Joe.

>> They're not even just I'm just saying

like we're so obsessed with life.

>> Yeah.

>> And that's why this is such a

fascinating conversation. It's also a

fascinating conversation cuz men can't

get pregnant.

>> It's a weird

>> Well, I think they can, right? They can

carry the baby. We can't get pregnant,

but I think you could.

>> Well, they're talking to transmitter

talking about getting uteruses implanted

in their body and then getting pregnant

and having an abortion. I want to be the

first person to do that,

>> which just shows you how is really

healthy. That's pretty hilarious.

>> Got it.

>> It would be a good bit. It' be something

Steo would do.

>> It really would be. I'm gonna put a baby

in a board it. How [ __ ] great is

that? That's funny.

>> Yeah. He would do it if there wouldn't

be any social push back.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> That That one's, you know, tough.

>> A little bit of a tough one.

>> He almost got tit implants.

>> I know. He told me that.

>> That's crazy.

>> It's nuts.

>> Don't do that.

>> Yeah.

>> Ouch. You going to get your chest carved

open.

>> You get a dick tattooed in his face.

>> Yes. He's insane.

>> Right over his eyebrow.

>> He's a lunatic. It took me like a few

seconds to realize it was a dick, too. I

was like, "Okay." Last time I saw you,

you didn't have that, right?

>> Yeah. He's a He's a [ __ ] wild one.

Um,

>> that nuclear scientist thing or the UFO

scientist thing, is there anything to

that? Do we No.

Why don't you uh throw that into our ad

or uh sponsor Perplexity?

>> What does it say?

>> Uh, it's obviously an online link,

>> right? But I mean, the White House is

investigating

>> that they're bringing it up. They're

investigated because so many people are

asking about it.

>> Oh, that's it's that easy.

>> Let's find out if Michelle Obama has a

dick.

Can you imagine if the White House is

like we have an unprecedented number of

people asking this question? It's our

duty to do the work for the American

people.

>> They do. Why? They all had a like

security clearance and all happened to

work in similar fields like nuclear

fision fusion.

>> Okay. So what ties the 11 together? Many

have recently clearances or indirect

access to s sensitive government work

often via NASA, the Department of

Energy's, nuclear labs, the Air Force,

or major defense contractors. Their

deaths or disappearances occurred

between 2022 and early 2026, clustered

enough in time to draw political and

media attention. The White House has

ordered agencies such as FBI, NASA, the

Department of Energy, and the Department

of War to perform link analysis to see

if there's any pattern beyond

coincidence.

So, one of them was real weird where

there was like a lady who was hiking and

she was with a bunch of friends. Her

friend turned around and asked her a

question. She talked to her and then she

turned around again and she was gone.

And they have no idea what happened.

They never found a body. They brought

the dogs in. The dogs couldn't find her.

Just gone.

>> That's it.

>> But here's my question. If I was her and

I thought that they were trying to whack

me and I was going hiking with my

friends and I was at the back of the

line, that's where I'd be if I was going

to make a run for it, right? If I

thought all these people were bringing

me up there, these [ __ ] fellow

scientists to chuck me off the cliff. I

might be in the back and then I might,

if I'm paranoid, maybe I ate an edible

before I went on this hike to be a

little closer to nature and I'd look at

that person in front of me. I'm like,

I'm going to wait until they turn that

right around that turn and I'm [ __ ]

>> Homer Simpson into the bushes

>> and then she just [ __ ] booked it down

that hill and hopped in her car, got a

Uber waiting for disappeared.

case you're thinking of is Monica

Jasinto Raza, 60-year-old aerospace

engineer linked to NASA, JPL, and

Advanced Rocket Engine Materials

Research. She disappeared on June 22nd,

2025 while hiking in the Angeles

National Forest, Los Angeles County, on

a welltraveled trail. I know where that

place is. I've been to that spot.

Reports say she was hiking with at least

one friend companion. The friend was

roughly 30 ft ahead, turned to check on

her, saw her smile, and waved that she

was fine. Then a short time later,

looked back again, and she was gone.

Despite intensive searches, no confirmed

trace of her has been found, and her

case is now one of the central examples

of missing or dead scientist cluster

being reviewed by federal agencies.

>> Yeah, that's weird.

>> She disappeared. She She was like, "Fuck

She saw all these other scientists being

murdered and she was like, "I'm out."

>> Right. Cuz if you were a scientist,

you'd probably be paying attention to

other scientists getting whacked.

>> Oh yeah. On the same projects.

>> Especially if somebody started talking.

>> You're in an empty office.

>> You're in the You're in the coffee

station and someone's like, "Do you hear

what happened to Ted?" Ted's dead.

>> He shot himself twice.

>> From long range.

>> Wait a minute. Anti-gravity Ted.

Anti-gravity Ted. He's dead.

>> He killed He killed himself with a

sniper rifle. It was pretty crazy.

>> Get the [ __ ] out of here. Yeah,

>> I'm going hiking with Monica. I don't

[ __ ] trust Monica.

>> [ __ ] that.

>> Monica's trying to kill you.

>> I don't trust

>> She's out there hiking and Monica turns

and waves at her.

>> I don't trust hiking. She was probably

[ __ ] killed by a bear or a mountain

lion.

>> You could get you could get got.

>> That's crazy. I don't

>> My friend Cam, his um brother almost got

killed by a mountain lion and had this

crazy story about it. And he's a like a

distance runner. He's one of those

ultramarathon guys. Yeah. and his

brother told this video about like what

had happened to him. He was running down

the road and it was like dusk out, like

starting to get dark and he saw these

eyes, these glowing eyes in the bushes

and he yelled at it cuz he thought it

was a coyote and it stands up and it's a

[ __ ] mountain lion. And so then it

starts chasing him and he goes, "I

couldn't have used pepper spray because

if I did, I would have sprayed myself

cuz it was that close."

>> Wow.

>> He goes, "I yelled at it. I kicked rocks

at it. It kept And he goes, "I just

ran." He goes, "I think the thing that

might have saved me was a bunch of dogs

were barking."

>> Wow.

>> And it might have thought the dogs were

out there.

>> You're not out running a mountain lion.

>> No.

>> No.

>> It was It was running behind him, but

not like 100% committed to killing him

yet.

>> Wow. That's scary.

>> Yeah. Nature's [ __ ] scary. And people

like, "We need to make an overpass in

Los Angeles near these homes so the

mountain line can get across the [ __ ]

track." No. Any [ __ ] mountain line

that goes across the 405 should get

obliterated. That's That's nature.

That's nature. Hey, you thought that

[ __ ] semi wasn't dangerous, you

[ __ ] cat. That's a [ __ ] cat. Yes,

it is. that that cat probably his

brother [ __ ] his sister and that's

that's how he was born and now he's a

dumbass and he's supposed to get taken

out by a Subaru.

>> Did you ever see that? They uh it was

like all these inbredad tigers.

>> Yeah. Oh, white tigers.

>> Yeah, dude. And they were all like

[ __ ] goofy.

>> They have one at the Austin Zoo.

>> [ __ ] tigers.

>> We went to visit the Austin Zoo and you