Quant explains why you shouldn’t day trade
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Guys, please don't get into day trading.
Reason number one, loss aversion. Did
you know that if you lose $100, you feel
way more in happiness than the happiness
you would feel if you make $100? Yeah,
it's counterintuitive. You would think
that they would be equal and opposite
and symmetric, but they're not. And when
you think about it more, it actually
makes sense because our stone age
ancestors evolved to be riskaverse. If
you weren't risk averse, you would die.
The point is that if you feel losses way
more than you feel the wins, then even
if you break even all year, you were net
unhappy the whole year. You suffered the
whole year. And that's no way to live
life. You can talk to a professional
gambler, like a professional poker
player, and they'll tell you the same
thing. They'll tell you that, "Oh yeah,
I can remember all of my bad beats in
like vivid detail." And they won't
really remember their biggest winning
hands that well. will say, "Oh yeah,
that was that was a good night. I made
money that night." The same advice holds
for professional gamblers. It's
[panting] it's a life of suffering.
>> What have I done?
>> Suffering.
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>> Now, reason two why you shouldn't day
trade. Most people don't think about the
tax considerations because taxes are
boring. the tax difference in day
trading, it means you have to do about
30% better. So, I'll get into all the
math, right? The S&P 500 returns about
10% annually. And so, if you're going to
day trade, you need to at least return
14% annually just to match someone else
who is just passively leaving their
money in the S&P 500. In fact, I would
go further and say that the average day
trader is often trading on leverage or
trading these like sexier tech stocks
like Tesla or Google. So, when you talk
about riskadjusted returns, you should
actually compare their performance
against something more like the NASDAQ,
which averages around 14% returns
annually. So, the average day trader
then needs to make at least 20% annually
just to match having left their money in
the NASDAQ, which averages about 14%
annually. And that difference in 6% is
because of tax reasons. I'll deep dive
into all that right now, but if you find
it boring, um, I'll split this up in the
chapter, so you can just skip this
chapter if you just take my word for it.
The gist of it is that if you talk about
an IBA, if you leave your money invested
there for over a year, it's a long-term
capital gain. And so the tax bracket for
long-term capital gains is way more
generous than for short-term capital
gains, which are basically taxed at your
ordinary income for a single person.
Right? The first 0% tax bracket for
long-term capital gains is up to around
$50,000 annually. And further, there's
something called a standard deduction
which let you pat on about an extra
$15,000
to the 50,000. So if you're just a
single person, the first $65,000
that you make is taxed at 0%. And
without losing you in too many of the
details, those are just the gains.
That's not really like the principal
amount of capital. You could very easily
pull out about a 100 grand a year and
pay 0% taxes on it. Consider that,
right? You choose to retire, your income
goes to zero, and then you subsidize
your life in your first year of
retirement, all by selling equity
holdings, for example, that you've held
for over a year. You can withdraw about
$100,000 and pay 0% taxes on it,
especially if you live in a state with
no state tax. You double this number if
you're married and you're filing
jointly. So, that's that's sort of what
you're comparing yourself against,
right? That's the buy and hold strategy.
Now, if you're actively day trading,
your trades are going to be categorized
as short-term capital gains, those are
taxed at the rate of your income that
year. The average person with a white
collar office job is getting taxed at
around 30% annually. All these buys and
sells you're doing throughout the year
are getting taxed at 30%. And so this is
how we arrive at the comparison that I
mentioned before where if I were just
buying and holding the NASDAQ for a year
and it averages 14% annually, you need
to be making at least a 20% return on
your day trading that year just to match
my passive investing strategy. So you
need to be making at least 20% annually.
And keep in mind that you're actively
doing work while I'm just hanging around
playing golf and hiking mountains or
whatever. You know, you're sitting there
watching Bloomberg News and and don't
forget the loss aversion aspect, right?
So, you're you're also suffering through
the whole year, you know, kicking
yourself when you miss trades that you
think you would have made. 20% is just
to break even with me. And obviously,
you don't want to do all that work just
to match someone who isn't doing any
work. So that means you probably have to
return at least 25%. So the question
becomes, do you think that you can
average 25% returns annually in your day
trading?
>> Because if you can't, then you really
shouldn't be doing this. I think
strongly the answer is no. No, you can't
average 25% annually. And the reason for
that is because only 10% of active fund
managers can outperform the S&P 500 over
a 10-year period. And over a 30-year
period, less than 1% of active managers
outperform the S&P 500. So when I say
active manager, keep in mind that these
are Harvard MBAs with a team of Harvard
MBAs working underneath them, all making
phone calls to the CEOs of companies
trying to glean any kind of alpha that
they can. These are guys working
full-time, and these guys can't
outperform the S&P 500. You can look
this up. So, what makes you think that
you're going to outperform these guys?
And not just outperform the S&P 500 that
averages 10% annually, that you're going
to average at least 25% annually. The
odds are just very low statistically.
Anyways, I hope I've given you
sufficient reason not to get into day
trading. If you still want to day trade,
just at least keep these things in mind.
Let me know if you have any questions in
the comments. Take care.
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The video strongly advises against day trading for two main reasons. Firstly, individuals experience "loss aversion," meaning the unhappiness from financial losses is felt more intensely than the happiness from equivalent gains, leading to net suffering even at a break-even point. Secondly, tax considerations significantly disadvantage day traders, as short-term capital gains are taxed at higher ordinary income rates compared to the more generous long-term capital gains rates for passive investors. Due to these tax implications, a day trader would need to achieve an annual return of at least 20-25% just to match or slightly outperform a passive investor, a feat that is statistically very difficult, even for experienced professional fund managers.
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