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I quit porn, gaming, and every dopamine

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hit, and now nothing makes me happy

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anymore. Has anyone else felt that void?

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So, one of the most bizarre lessons I've

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learned working in addiction psychiatry

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is sobriety does not fix addiction. You

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know, when I was like training, I would

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have patients who would shoot up

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heroin. And I was in Boston, so there

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was a lot of K2 usage, which is like

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synthetic marijuana, right? It's a lot

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of opioid addiction, a lot of K2

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addiction, a lot of aderall addiction,

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marijuana addiction, alcohol addiction,

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right? And so, like, we have this idea

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that, okay, so if you're using

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substances and it's messing up your

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life, the way to fix that is to stop

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using substances. And like makes sense,

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like sobriety is great. But then I had

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like a problem with my patients which

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was or my patients had a problem which

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is that even if they after they do all

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the behavioral stuff to fix their to

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attain sobriety sometimes they're left

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like this which is like yes I'm sober

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and being sober is like better than

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using because when I was using my life

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was a mess. I was homeless, like, you

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know, running out of money on probation

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at work. Like I I, you know, had nowhere

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to live. Like I was buming money off of

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people and like, you know, my parents

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like I was like I had to move back in

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with my parents and like so life when

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you're like a bad addict. My life was

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empty. I wasn't progressing in life. I

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have all these goals. I'm not moving

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towards them. I'm kind of stuck in this

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mess. And so it's like, okay,

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bro, get sober. But then people get this

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other problem, which is after they're

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sober, life doesn't feel fun. And so

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like in some ways it's better to be

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sober, but it's also like there's

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something missing when you're sober. The

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joy, the zest, everything feels great.

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It's just not as fun. And so there's

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almost this like posts sobriety

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depression that my patients, some of my

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patients would go through. And this is

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where I, you know, I love neurobiology

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perspectives on addiction and stuff like

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that, but this is where I think there's

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some cool stuff from the field of

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psychology. And this is not just a

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problem with people who become sober. So

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I don't know if you guys had this kind

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of growing up. So I grew up in a small

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town in Texas and there were people who

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like peaked in high school. like this

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guy was like, you know, homecoming king,

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quarterback for the high school football

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team, kind of peaked in high school,

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sort of went to college, got a

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scholarship, wasn't good enough, sort of

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washed out, and then he's like trying to

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reclaim that former glory. Another good

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example of this is someone who gets

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caught up with the one who got away, had

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a relationship, everything was fine,

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relationship ends, this person moves on

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with their life and and and my patient

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is stuck. They can't move on. So this is

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like a problem where I don't know if

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this kind of makes sense. Some human

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beings have something in their life that

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they really love and then when that

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thing ends

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they feel empty. And so we're going to

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talk about fundamentally moving on. So

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if you're someone who has difficulty

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moving on, right? And and by sobriety,

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and this is like kind of what I mean

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about addiction is, and you all kind of

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know what I'm talking if you've been

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addicted to something, which is that

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like the high of that thing is so

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good and you go chasing it. Even

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after you're sober, you're like, "How do

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I find that zest?" And people will tell

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me and and I have patients who do all

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the right stuff, right? I'm I'm

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telling meditate because meditate brings

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joy and inner peace. Meditate more.

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You'll find bliss. Blissed out, baby.

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Let's get blissed,

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right? And people used to do like LSD or

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psilocybin or things like that. And

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they're like, "Hey, I've heard that

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meditation can have these spiritual

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experiences, too. So, let me try that.

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Let me go to Dr. K, and Dr. Okay. Is

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going to teach me this esoteric

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meditation and then I'm going to have

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these spiritual experiences and then

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it'll be like I'm back to LSD or

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psilocybin without having LSD or

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psilocybin. The core thing is you want

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to go back to that thing, that feeling.

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And then the problem is you look for

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other things, right? You're like, how do

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I find joy without drugs? Like what game

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is going to give me scratch that itch?

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And nothing does. No person lives up to

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the one who got away, right? Some

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studies so show that crystal meth, you

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addicted to crystal meth, it increases

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dopamine transmission by 1,000 to 10,000

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fundamental psychological thing. But if

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you are someone who's fundamentally

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stuck and looking for life to have zest,

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we're going to go back to our boy, the

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one, the only, the sigund. Okay, this is

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from his original paper of mourning and

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melancholia. And I want to read y'all

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something. Okay, so I'll explain this

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cuz it's Freudian language which is hard

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to understand. Reality testing has shown

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that the loved object no longer exists

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and it proceeds to demand that all

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libido shall be withdrawn from its

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attachments to that object. The demand

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arouses understandable opposition. It is

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a matter of general observation that

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people never willingly abandon a

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libidinal position, not even indeed when

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a substitute is already beckoning them.

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Let's talk about libidinal energy.

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Here's you. So, here is the object.

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Let's say winning at big gamba THC. Um,

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meth. So, here's like, okay, this is

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this is like some fundamental

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psych psychological stuff, okay? But I

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really want to try to explain it and I'm

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going to try. So here's you and here's

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some object outside of you and then what

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happens is this object

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brings you joy. So then what happens is

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you invest in this object. You have this

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fundamental energy. So the libidinal

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energy is the energy of like enjoyment

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and emotional investment. So if you guys

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think about something that you're like

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addicted to, you're emotionally

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invested. you have a relationship with

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that thing, right? So, it's like the

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game or the gambling or the weed is how

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I feel alive.

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It's how I feel joy. Like, I'm invested

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in this thing. This thing is the source.

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It's where I put my joyful energy in my

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emotional engagement. Right? And I don't

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know if this kind of makes sense, but

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when you're like really into drugs,

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there's all kinds of other that

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you're just not invested in. There's

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your job. There's your family. Sometimes

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there's even your lover, right? And

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you're just not, it doesn't, it's not

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where your mind is. It's not where your

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energy is. It's not where your

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investment is. You're just like, you're

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a addict. So, this is what

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you're thinking about all the time. Now,

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here's the really messed up thing. When

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this thing goes away, and this paper is

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about mourning and melancholy, right?

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So, he's talking about mourning. So,

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this can even be a person. So this can

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be you know my glory days as a football

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star. This can be uh the one who got

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away. All this stuff is kind of the

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same. It is the the fundamental energy

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of investment into a thing. The thing

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that we get attached to the thing that

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brings us joy and pleasure. Do you all

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see how this is like all kind of one

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thing? Now here's the problem. When this

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thing goes away, when this person dies,

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when the football career ends, the one

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who got away gets remarried. Even though

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this thing is gone, our emotional energy

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is still stuck in this pipeline because

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you think about it. And then once these

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things are gone, we look for other

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things like, okay, meditation, can can I

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get meditation to fit in here? We look

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for fundamentally, we always look for a

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replacement of that thing. That's the

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key thing. We want to replace that

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thing. We don't want something else. We

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only want that thing. I'm looking for my

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former glory. I don't want a new glory.

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I want the former glory. I don't want to

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listen. I don't want to enjoy music in

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this way. In this white noise way. I

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want to enjoy music in that way. Like

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the feeling of drugs when they hit,

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baby. You know what I'm talking about?

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When it hits. When it hits. And you know

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you are in for a good time. yeah.

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Chasing the dragon. Oh my god. It's been

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so long since I've used I've been sober.

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Oh my god. I've been sober for 6 months

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and I relapsed.

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Oh, thank God. Let's go. Oh my god. All

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my receptors are back to baseline. I

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have no tolerance anymore. Oh my god. I

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relapse. It feels so good. Even

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Even when I was sober, right, I was

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still attached to this. I was looking

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for the replacement, baby. I was looking

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for the replacement and nothing. I tried

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to get this thing to fit in there and it

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didn't fit. And I tried to get

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this thing to fit and it does fit

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inside, but it's only this small. I want

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this whole space, man. Come on.

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I want that love again. Right? So even

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though we're sober, even though we're

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single, even though we're healthy, our

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fundamental investment is still here.

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Make sense? So the demand arouses an

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understandable opposition. It is a

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matter of general observation that

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people will never willingly abandon a

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libido position. Okay, what does that

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mean? That means that once this is

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over here, I'm not going to give this

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up. I don't want to give this up because

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if I abandon this position then all this

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stuff is just in here and this doesn't

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feel good. There's no libidinal

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attachment to anything like there's just

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it's just empty, right? So I I want to

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find a replacement. I don't want to just

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have nothing because I have no

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attachment over here, no attachment over

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here, no attachment over here. So it's

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just like if I just give up drugs then

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I've got nothing. Uh, the opposition can

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be so intense that turning away from

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reality takes place and clinging to the

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object through the medium of a

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hallucinatory wishful psychosis. Now,

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what the hell does that mean? That means

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that even though we know this is gone,

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right? Oh, like the one that got away,

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he's married now. This is gone and never

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coming back. We are still hoping. We are

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still looking for a substitute even

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though it's gone. Even though it's gone,

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even though we're sober now, we're still

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hunting for something in here. We don't

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want to give it up. You guys know what I

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mean? Like, if you're sober, you still

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don't want to give it up. And this is

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why people say, "Hi, my name is Alo. I'm

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an alcoholic. My last drink was 32 years

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ago, and I'm still an alcoholic." What

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does that mean? Is it a neurobiological

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genetic predisposition to get addicted

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to alcohol? Sure. But it is also this.

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It is also this. Normally, respect for

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reality gains the day. Nevertheless, its

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orders cannot be obeyed all at once.

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They are carried out bit by bit at great

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expense of time and kathetic energy. And

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in the meantime, the existence of the

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lost object is psychically prolonged.

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Okay, we'll explain what this means.

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This is the key sentence. Each one of

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each single one of the memories and

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expectations in which libido is bound to

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the object is brought up in hyperfected

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and then detachment of the libido is

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accomplished in respect of it. Okay,

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what the hell does that mean? So let's

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just pick marijuana. When I form a

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libidinal attachment

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to marijuana, okay, so like I'm

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invested. Like yeah, let's go. We think

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that when we're sober this is gone, but

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it's not gone. I'll tell you this thing

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is actually a thousand things. It's the

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sound of music. It is the joy of video

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games. And it's also different kinds of

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joy. It's a MOA. It's an FPS. It's uh

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storybased game. It's a cutscene, right?

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And it's different kinds of music. It's

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appreciating reggae. Appreciating Snoop

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Dogg. Appreciating maybe classical,

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right? And it's also feeling

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normal instead of socially anxious. It's

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being able to lay down and enjoy falling

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asleep. You guys like get me? What we

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get invested in is not a substance. It's

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not a joint. It's not a gummy. It's not

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a pill. What we get invested in is all

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of these experiences.

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And there are so many of them. And so we

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think we've conquered the thing. It's a

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way of life. Ah, beautifully put. It is.

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It is a way of living. And if it is a

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way of life, it is a person. It is your

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way of life. Then what happens is not

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only I I like this, it's a way of life

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because all of this stuff when we lose

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it gets internalized, this is what Freud

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says, into the ego. So here's the

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example that Freud gave gave with

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morning. So when there's a person that

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we lose and let's say we love this

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person and we're angry with this person,

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what happens is like we kind of polarize

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them. We have all the love for the lost

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person over here, right? Because we we

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don't speak ill of the dead, right?

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Because when people die, they become

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saints. And so all of this anger towards

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this person has nowhere to go and it

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becomes internalized. So all of this

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emotional energy which includes love and

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anger they can't receive it anymore. So

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it actually comes into us. So when we

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lose marijuana or we lose fentinil or we

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lose gambling we lose some like we lose

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a part of ourselves like we get tied to

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that loss like that person is gone. That

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person who was riding high and on top of

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the world that person is gone. So here's

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the tricky thing. What we need to do is

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something called decoexis. So this

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energy needs to be withdrawn and pulled

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back into us. And when we do this, we

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have nowhere for the libidinal energy to

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go. We have nowhere for the emotional

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investment to go. So this life is gray.

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You may think like, oh, when our my

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libidinal energy is within me, does that

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mean that I feel fulfilled? No, it's

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actually not. This is it just has

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nowhere to go. So when we kind of go

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back to this passage for a second, they

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are carried out bit by bit at great

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expense of time and kctic energy and in

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the meantime the existence of the object

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lost object is physically prolonged. So

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what does this mean? This means that

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this process remember this over here how

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so each of these happens one step at a

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time. So, okay, I'm going to give up

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MOBAs, and then I get a little bit of

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kathetic energy back, and then I'm going

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to give up FPS, and then I get a little

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bit back, and then I'm going to give up

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story-based games, and then I get a

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little bit back. And then I'm going to

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give up, oh my god, social feeling

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normal. Whole little bit back. And if

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you guys have experienced mourning, you

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kind of know what I'm talking about,

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right? Because you don't like the person

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is dead, but you mourn them in slices.

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I'm still mourning my dad

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because my dad, you know, he he he

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passed away the year I got into medical

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school and he was so happy that I was I

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finally got into medical school and he's

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like, you know, I'll look you would be a

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great doctor one day. And then sometimes

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when I like get accolades for the work

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that I do, I really miss my dad. So

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these things, right? So and and if

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you've been addicted to something, you

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kind of know because like it's it's like

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death by a thousand cuts. It's like this

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thing has changed and now this thing has

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changed. So I'll give you all an

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example. So, you know, I have a patient

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who's addicted to alcohol. And alcohol,

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it's not just giving up alcohol. It's

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giving up barbecues. It's giving up

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happy hours. It's giving up boozy

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vacations at all-inclusive resorts. It's

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giving up cruise ships. It's giving up a

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nice glass of wine when you're touring

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through Napa Valley. It's giving up when

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your friends travel to France and bring

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you a bottle from the Bordeaux region of

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France and they bring you a beautiful

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gift. It's giving up going to Vegas with

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your boys. It's giving up having a beer

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at a football game. It's giving up such

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a large part of life and we don't want

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to give those things up. Right? So when

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when Freud says the demand arouses

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understandable opposition, we don't want

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to pull back. It is a matter of general

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observation that people will never

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willingly abandon a libidal position.

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Not even indeed when a substitute is

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beckoning them. So Freud says, even if

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you've got an alternative, you don't

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want to give it up. You don't want to

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give up barbecues and football games and

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feeling frisky and going to Vegas with

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your boys, you don't want to give all

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that up. Like that's what life is.

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And this is the problem when we don't

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give it up because then it has nowhere

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else to go, right? So it's hard to give

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up and it's it has to be given up a

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thousand different ways. And the most

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important thing is giving it up means

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entering this state, the state of gray.

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Truly giving it up. And that's what

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needs to be done. Once that libidinal

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energy is back within you, once it's

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truly been withdrawn, there's an there's

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absolutely a gray zone. But now you can

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form a new connection. Now a thread can

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go over here. And now a thread can go

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over here. And now a thread can go over

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here. And now a thread can go over here.

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And then life can start to have joy. But

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this object is different. And this

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object is different. There's never going

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to be this object again. But you can

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have other objects. And here's the key

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thing. The joy, this is the hard part.

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Hopefully I'm it makes sense now. The

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joy from drugs doesn't technically come

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from the drug. It comes from your

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libidinal investment in the thing. This

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is where the joy comes from, not the

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drug itself. And I'll give you all an

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example, right? Because I'm a gaming

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addict. You guys know like when you

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grieve when a video game ends, right?

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And then you're looking for that next

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game. You're looking for that emotional

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attachment, getting lost in this world

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that has good mechanics and leveling up

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and progression. Like you get swept

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away. You are in that thing. now.

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And as long as you are making

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comparisons to that last game, as long

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as you're making comparisons to that

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ex-boyfriend, as long as, like, sure, I

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got an award for making the most money

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at work in my used car. I'm a used car

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salesman and I got an award for getting

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the highest sales in February of 2026.

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Whoopde do. Doesn't touch going

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allin when you have a 4% chance of

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victory. when you've got two outs left

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and hitting it big, standing up to the

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world and saying, "Oh man, I'm so

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fucked." And then getting getting pulled

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out of that into a victory, snatching

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victory from the jaws of defeat.

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I sold some cars. Whoopde do.

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It's only whoopde do because

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your libidinal energy is still in that

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thing on some fundamental level. You are

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still chasing that thing. You've not

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withdrawn from it. You really haven't

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given it up. It's absent, but you have

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not given it up. This is that window in

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between sobriety and happiness. And so,

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this is the most painful thing cuz Freud

20:28

says it and it's true, right? We really

20:30

have to give it up. And that doesn't

20:32

mean I don't mean behaviorally which is

20:34

an important part of like addiction

20:35

recovery like you helps to be sober to

20:37

give it up but even you I've seen cases

20:40

of of decoexis even when someone is

20:43

actively using you can even argue that

20:46

so I don't know if this makes sense this

20:48

is what's like actually really

20:49

cool I never thought about this like

20:50

this before but this is I don't know if

20:52

this makes sense okay so let's say the

20:53

drug is over here you have all this

20:55

libidinal energy towards it here's the

20:58

cool thing if you give it up even when

21:01

the substance is present now you're not

21:04

invested in it and this probably happens

21:06

like I I've worked with so many patients

21:07

who will say you know one day I woke up

21:09

and enough was enough they

21:11

psychologically separate first they say

21:14

I'm done psychologically this is over

21:17

it's finished I'm severing my libidinal

21:20

attachment I'm done I'm done I

21:22

want it hurts I'm in withdrawal I've had

21:25

patients who have had both cancer and

21:27

been in opiate withdrawal and they've

21:28

told me opiate withdrawal is way worse

21:30

than cancer I'd rather have cancer and

21:32

chemotherapy over opiate withdrawal any

21:33

day of the week. But you sever that

21:35

attachment first and then the behavior

21:38

will disappear. It's so tricky. But

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here's the key thing. If you are someone

21:44

who feels like life is gray, life is

21:47

empty and nothing brings you joy. Sure,

21:50

there is a dopamineergic neurochemical

21:52

component where that'll balance out

21:54

within weeks to months. Fine. But for

21:56

some people that doesn't even do it.

21:58

That pull is still there. The siren song

22:00

is still there. You're still invested in

22:02

it in your being.

22:05

You haven't really given it up. And

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that's what absolutely has to be done on

22:10

this level. You have to give it up and

22:12

give it up forever. And then you ask

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your mind will ask you the question, if

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I give it up forever, does that mean my

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life will be empty and gray? And the

22:21

answer is yes. And you have to do it

22:23

anyway. You have to accept this as a

22:26

state of life. Then the libidinal energy

22:29

will will grow within you. You'll feel

22:32

really bad and then it'll find another

22:34

thing to invest in. And the simplest way

22:37

to put this is you can't fall in love

22:39

with somebody else until you've truly

22:42

given up on your ex, right? So simple.

22:46

You have to make space for other things

22:48

in your life. And as long as the craving

22:50

for that first thing is there, as long

22:52

as that libidinal attachment is there,

22:54

ain't never going to work. questions.

22:59

Oh,

23:01

I love the question. Okay. What if my ex

23:06

is my soulmate? If ever I have heard a

23:09

question that rep represents a libidinal

23:12

attachment, it is that one. What is a

23:16

soulmate? What is the concept of a

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soulmate? The concept of a soulmate is

23:20

someone who has all of your libidinal

23:22

attachment. It is the libidal attachment

23:24

that makes the soulmate beautiful.

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You guys see the It's so good, man. Oh

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my god. I I I love being with

23:33

y'all so much, dude. The demand arouses

23:36

an understandable opposition. It is a

23:39

matter of general observation that

23:41

people never willingly abandon a liinal

23:43

position, not even indeed when a

23:45

substitute is already beckoning them.

23:47

Here you are at work with another

23:50

soulmate ready to go who's into you. But

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oh, what is the concept of the soulmate?

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The soulmate is what your mind

24:00

consciously tells you when you have a

24:03

liinal attachment to someone else.

24:05

Beautiful question. Yeah. So, what steps

24:09

can I can take to give up on something?

24:11

Great question. So, a couple of

24:14

different things.

24:16

The first is recognize that giving up on

24:18

something is not multiple steps towards

24:22

one thing. It is a thousand one step

24:26

things, right? So your attachment

24:29

towards a thing is all of the things

24:31

that it was in your life. How do we

24:33

mourn? We go through Christmas. We go

24:35

through birthday. We go through oh

24:38

watching the next season of the show

24:39

that we were watching together. It's

24:41

it's death by a thousand cuts except we

24:44

have to go through it. Actually, it's

24:45

life by a thousand cuts. That's what it

24:47

is. That's how you start living again.

24:49

That sounds I can't tell if that's

24:52

social media, tweet, Instagram worthy.

24:55

Oh, life by a thousand cuts.

24:59

A so wise or Oh my god, Dr. K, you're so

25:03

brilliant. Life by a thousand cuts. But

25:05

that's what decathaxis really is. It's

25:08

life through a thousand cuts. A thousand

25:11

tiny severings. And this is the brutal

25:14

part of it is what you have to do is say

25:16

this is gone. Stop looking for a

25:19

substitute. And then you will feel empty

25:22

and so be it. This is what life is.

25:26

Life is empty. Now life is over. Love is

25:30

lost. Now here's the key thing. When

25:33

life becomes empty, people will take one

25:36

extra step that will mess them up, which

25:37

is life is empty forever.

25:40

Right? And that's what keeps us

25:42

attached. Okay, let me show you what I

25:44

mean. Libidinal attachment to object.

25:48

When we withdraw it, life is empty. And

25:51

so we don't want it to be empty, right?

25:54

We don't want this state. And in the

25:57

avoidance of this state, we keep it

26:00

there. That's precisely the absence of

26:02

morning. We don't want to be here. And

26:06

there's the problem is there's a gap

26:07

between being here and being here.

26:11

This may never happen, right? And so

26:13

when Freud says the order cannot be

26:16

obeyed at once, they are carried out bit

26:18

by bit at great expense of time and

26:19

cathic energy. So what you have to do is

26:22

give that up. And then the problem is

26:24

that once so here's the thing, okay?

26:27

Once you're here, this feels like

26:31

forever.

26:33

And since this feels like forever and is

26:36

intolerable, we end up going back this

26:38

way. And if y'all have gone through a

26:40

breakup where like you lost your

26:42

soulmate, you you hopefully and you

26:43

bounced up

26:45

uh you know bounced back on the other

26:47

side, what you discovered is that there

26:49

was a period of time where you thought

26:51

you would never love again,

26:54

but then a couple years go by, you meet

26:55

someone new and oh wow, I can love

26:58

again.

27:00

I found my soulmate once in my life and

27:02

I'm the luckiest person on the planet

27:03

because I f found my soulmate twice. And

27:06

that's the problem, right? is when we're

27:08

in this state. I don't even know how to

27:11

explain this. I'm high. The stuff that I

27:13

used to enjoy feels amplified. The stuff

27:15

that I used to genuinely love just feels

27:17

gray and unsufferable. You have to be in

27:20

that state. And then the libidinal

27:22

energy, this is the cool thing, the

27:23

libidinal energy won't stay that way

27:25

forever. It has a natural tendency to go

27:28

and form attachments with things.

27:31

But you have to get through that period.

27:32

That's how you mourn. You give it up.

27:34

And you don't just stop doing the

27:36

behavior. That's the whole point of this

27:37

lecture is that stopping to do the

27:39

behavior will leave you gray and sober.

27:42

You have to accept that gray and sober

27:45

is a way for life and you have to accept

27:46

it wholeheartedly.

27:49

And then the libidinal attachment will

27:51

start to go somewhere else.

Interactive Summary

The video discusses the concept of post-sobriety emptiness, where individuals, even after abstaining from addictive substances or behaviors, may find life lacking joy and excitement. This is explained through the Freudian concept of libidinal energy, which is the emotional and energetic investment in an object or activity. When this object is lost (e.g., addiction, a past relationship, a peak life experience), the energy remains attached, leading to a void. The process of true recovery involves "decathexis," the withdrawal of this libidinal energy, which is a painful, gradual process of mourning and detachment from all the associated experiences, not just the primary behavior. Simply stopping the behavior without this internal detachment leaves one "gray and sober." The key takeaway is that true joy doesn't come from the substance or activity itself, but from the emotional investment. To find joy again, one must first fully detach from the old object of investment, accept the temporary emptiness, and then allow that energy to form new connections.

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