Joe Rogan Experience #2558 - Tyler Engle
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>> Tyler, [music] what's up? What's
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>> I love your [ __ ] Instagram.
[laughter] You You have a rabbit hole of
an Instagram, dude. It's so good. Your
latest one on Noah's arc is really
[ __ ] interesting because I knew about
the scans, but I did not know about the
connections to the Samaran text and how
he was referred to on the King's List.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Let's I sent it to you, Jamie,
just to start off just because I want to
really blow up your Instagram because
it's so good, dude.
>> Thanks, man.
>> My pleasure. I It's so many times where
I'm doom scrolling. I find that I'm
like, "Oh, I'm learning something. This
is justifiable." So, this is um it's
called baseforge US. That's Tyler's uh
Instagram. And uh this is all about
these new scans. And uh they dug into it
today. I think today or yesterday.
>> It's been two days.
>> They think that they hit petrified wood,
which is really interesting. This whole
thing is very weird. But let's let's
just hit this
>> new scans from Turkey. Mount Ararat, the
Noah's Arc location. They got a new
little drone out there that's using the
same technology that they used to find
the Hawara labyrinth in Egypt recently.
Mind you, both of these were not taken
seriously by the mainstream. I'm still
skeptical, but the evidence is getting a
little overwhelming cuz the Earth is not
lying. Mount Arat is almost 17,000 ft
high, straddled by two of the saltiest
lakes on Earth and a dry one to the
south. How did it get there? Most people
confuse the flood with the younger drius
event. That is way too far back in
history. The nearby town of Shirupac was
buried in 50 ft of mud. That mud was
dated very close to the mud that is
covering this structure. But Sherupac is
very interesting. That is where Noah was
from. The ancient Sumerians called Noah
Zasudra, the last king on the Sumerian
kings list before the flood. These guys
were a megalithic culture, meaning they
could work really big, really hard
rocks. Their temples are so destroyed,
there are 10 ton stones just laying out
in the middle of nowhere that got thrown
off the top of a mountain. But that's
very important because these guys could
work really big stones. And right by the
sight of this ark are these things. What
are these things? These are called
drogue stones. You see the hole in the
top of them? You fit a rope or a chain
through that? They're anchor stones.
They're found in ancient Greek and Roman
ports. What they would do is suspend
them off of the boat to keep it stable
in rocky water or anchored. Noar didn't
have a mast or anything to steer it. It
was the largest ship ever built and
meant only to survive this one event.
They'd need to be that big for a ship
that large. And those dimensions are
exceptionally close to what we see in
the ground. I put this site and the
temples in hidden history free update.
Explore it. Okay, for real though, how
much more evidence do we need? Just dig
the thing out.
Well, I think they are trying to at
least slowly excavate that area and
figure out what it is. But just the
story itself, it seems like as written
so preposterous that the all of the
animals on Earth were put on, you know,
two of each on a boat and then the flood
came and then afterwards they
repopulated the earth. Yeah. It seems
like a ridiculous simplification of
something that was probably at least
somewhat true.
>> Like I don't think that they had all the
animals on the boat cuz that doesn't
make any sense. There's not enough room.
You know, animals eat other animals.
There's a lot of but it does seem like
there was some probably multiple events
throughout history, but some sort of an
event that they're documenting
>> that that one's well documented
actually. The one in Turkey was uh the
flood. Yeah. 3,000 BC or so. I think was
the around that area there was multiple
and that's where you see all this um
like the temple of ionis that whole
region there has flood evidence
>> right
>> but it's not younger dest flood evidence
you know
>> but it's also probably not global
>> it's not that's what that's I think an
important distinction that a lot of
these places make is uh they have
similar stories but they probably
weren't the same day you know
>> it could have been sequential like some
some event's going to happen somewhere
and cause this and then another one's is
going to happen over here and cause
this. But the Mediterranean, that area
is very unique because it's basically
surrounded by mountains, right? Like
there's this giant from Iran to all the
way to Greece mountain range. That's
>> right. So, how does it have a saltwater
lake?
>> That's what So, [laughter] so Lake Van
is really interesting because there Lake
Van has like a volcan volcanic um
origin, right? There's a volcano
underneath it and so there's like
mineral deposits there, but it's one of
the saltiest lakes around. You know, the
Dead Sea is really close to it as well.
So,
>> what about the Great Salt Lake in Utah?
>> Uh, I don't I think it's a little I
think it's saltier. It's a soda lake.
So, Lake Van is a soda. It's like
carbonate. And then the Great Salt Lake
is like pure salt lake, same as a Dead
Sea, right?
>> So, those those are two different
distinctions. This is like this is
definitely more of a Randall area over
than my area. But, I like I like mixing
these different things in because all
the all the stories are pointing to the
same, you know, that that same origin.
And that's where the Zasudra thing comes
in. So most likely it was probably a
semiloc event like contained to Turkey
and just their version of the world what
was what was what was around them. So
when they were right you know what I
mean like they don't know what's
happening in China how could they you
know they have no idea what's going on
in the Philippines
>> there out like like you your whole world
is gone if everything you see around you
is is barren wasteland because you got
tsunamied like right the world's over
and that's what you're going to put on
the rock. So the question is, was it a
real event? And if it was a real event,
how the hell did this Noah guy know it
was coming?
>> That's
>> that's where things get real weird
because if we t even if it's just a
local event, even if it's a local event,
I mean by local I'm talking about like
the continent or at least the area of
Turkey. So, even if it was a local
event, how the hell does this guy know
to enough that he spends years
constructing this boat, this massive
boat, the biggest boat that had ever
been built at the time?
>> Yeah.
>> And gets all these animals on it going,
"We're [ __ ] in about 3 years. I got to
get to work." Like,
>> it's accelerating this process.
>> Wasn't there Who [ __ ] did a movie?
[snorts]
>> Wasn't there Wasn't there a movie
recently?
>> No. the movie.
>> Wasn't it a Russell Crow movie?
>> Yeah. Yeah,
>> that's right. I didn't see that.
>> I I actually liked it because they they
get a lot of the lore in there, like the
old old lore, you know, of the Nephilim
and all that stuff. Like the intro to
the movie. Yeah. Just watch the intro to
that thing if you're if you're curious.
They do this whole backstory on it. It's
really cool.
>> So many things that I used to think were
nonsense.
>> The Nephilim stuff.
>> Yeah. And now I'm like, "Hey,
>> the Giant stuff for sure."
>> Giants.
>> Giants for sure. I am almost all in on
Giants. I think I think we're all almost
all in there.
>> Yeah. It just seems like there's too
much there's just too many to stories.
There's too many tales. I don't know
what it means. Like does it mean the
mountain from Game of Thrones? You know
what I mean? Like that's a giant.
Especially compared to me. That guy
standing next to me like Brian Shaw. Do
you know who Brian Shaw is?
>> Brian Shaw was in the mothership the
other day.
>> He's uh 400 [ __ ] lb. He's like 7 feet
tall. He's the biggest [ __ ] human you
you've ever seen in your life. His bone
structure is so dense that he is one of
I think it's what I think there's like
five or six people on Earth that have
the same density of of bone as this guy.
No, it's it's some insane number. Some
insane number like one out of 500
million people have his bone structure.
>> Where does that genetic come from? Where
where where are we getting that? But I'm
saying is it that is it just exceptional
genetics like we have today we have
pygmy tribes and yet we also have the
Messiah right so we have these seven
foot tall people and we have these 3T
tall or 4t tall people so like what
>> what are we talking about? Are we
talking about a different species of
human cuz now we keep finding these new
species of human like the Dennisovven.
>> You saw the new the new research on that
now how big they were big as [ __ ] So
like and
>> tell people about that research
>> if humans were okay. So they found uh I
think a complete skeleton if I'm not
mistaken of the Dennis which was
>> I don't think they found a complete
skeleton.
>> It was it was the more a more complete
one than they had before.
>> Yeah. I think they just have pieces if
I'm correct.
>> I don't think we have a full one yet but
[snorts] the the proportionally like
they are definitely they were bigger
than us.
>> Well just the skulls alone.
>> The skulls are huge.
>> The skulls are massive. It's like a
Brian Shaw skull. [laughter]
Brian's going to be like, "What the
fuck?"
>> Oh, he's cool, man. He's cool. He likes
being giant. [laughter] Who wouldn't
like being that [ __ ] big, man?
>> You're right. You're right.
>> Okay. Dennis Ovenans towered over their
contemporaries and munched a bunch of
meat.
>> Of course, that's how you get so big.
>> Um, so how big do they think they were?
>> I thought it was like seven, seven foot
something maybe.
>> Interesting. Right. So, and this is like
the ones we found, right? So like if you
only found like my body, you would say,
"Oh, humans, you know, were under like
somewhere around 5'8, 5' 7, maybe they
got to about 5' 9" and then you see
Shaq's body and you go, "Oh, okay. Well,
this is not real.
>> Clearly,
>> what's going on? This is a different
species."
>> You would think like we only have a
small amount of fossilized record, you
know, of just human beings. We keep
finding these like the Dennis I think
they just found them 10 years ago or
less getting older too. That's the thing
like it keeps getting pushed back for
homo sapiens as well as finding new new
versions of them.
>> Yes. So it says here um Neanderl men
average about 168. Why are they doing it
in centimeters? Why you [ __ ] with me?
Dennis towered at 190 cmters. What does
that mean Jamie? What's 190 centimeters?
>> Freedom units.
>> Here I'll ask my phone.
What is 190 cm in feet?
>> 190 cm is 6.23 feet.
>> I was right.
>> Okay,
>> good job.
>> I said 60, but that'd be like 60.
>> So that's pretty big for the time
because people were they it was hard to
get food. Yeah. Right. So it's hard to
get the protein in order to get big.
Like people during the Civil War were
like 130 lbs. Like men were tiny because
they were starving.
>> And medieval medieval people were a lot
smaller.
>> Yes. A lot smaller. So it was and it's
basically a food thing. So obviously
this is a very big version of a human
especially considering the time that
that it existed. But was that a giant?
Were people all really tiny and they
looked at that? Cuz like have you ever
been to uh to uh Italy and uh gone to
some of the uh ancient structures in the
castles?
>> Not Italy. Not yet.
>> Pretty dope. Um one of the things you
notice is the armor is [ __ ] tiny.
>> Yeah.
>> Tiny.
>> Really?
>> Like tiny. I've heard I've heard these
things.
>> It's weird.
>> And how like their uh the the shoes and
stuff they like it doesn't look like
they could fit into the the proportions
of them.
>> Well, they're itty bitty people.
>> So, um when I was there, I think it was
a castle that we're
>> I went to a bunch of different places.
Went to We went to Pompei, went to
Florence. think it was in Florence, but
this armor was like that narrow,
>> like like super slender and like little
like 5 foot fiveish, like tiny little
dudes.
>> Cuz I think nobody had any food, man. I
think it was hard to get the the proper
protein to, especially if you're a
soldier and you know, you probably come
from a poor class of people. You
probably didn't have access to enough
food to grow, right? Unless you got a
lot of those guys, it' be kind of
[laughter]
>> Well, you got a lot of those guys. And
also, they're probably killing a lot of
other people that are also similar
small.
>> Yeah.
>> You know.
>> Yeah.
>> Unless they run into the Vikings
>> or the maybe the Egyptians.
>> Yeah. Well, maybe the [laughter]
Egyptians, right? Xerxes in the movie
>> 300, right? [laughter and gasps]
>> So, it's he was Persian actually. But
it's like when when you hear these
stories, particularly the stories of the
Giants, it and then you find out things
like Dennis Ovenans, you go, "Okay, so
we know that Dennis Ovenans existed and
when when do they think they existed?
What what is the timeline?"
>> Oh, that article said that most bones I
think are [snorts] about 160,000, but
radioarbon testing on I think the ones
that they used for this study were maybe
45,000 years old.
>> Oh, that's crazy. Okay. So, if they find
just let's just think about that. So,
that's 120,000 years of discrepancy.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. That's nuts.
>> That that we never interacted with them,
too. Like,
>> right. For sure we interact. Yeah. We
definitely 100%. If they're 45,000 or
whatever it is. So, then you got to
think, well, this is only the bones we
found, right? If you die, if I die, if
Jamie dies, the odds of someone finding
our bones somewhere, it it's so small.
It's like the the fossil record of
dinosaurs alone, like dinosaurs lived
for [ __ ] hundreds of millions of
years. And what do we found? Like a few
hundred thousand of them.
>> We don't even have like a full skeleton
on pretty much any of those. Like 100%
full.
>> No, I don't think we have any really. We
have pretty close ones. We have some
really close T-Rex ones
>> and some, you know, some that are real
close. But the bottom line is the amount
that died versus the amount that we find
is very small. So easily that could be
the case with people.
>> And if you're taking dragons and dragons
and dragons
>> and dragons, [laughter]
>> we'll get to dragon.
>> We're on it again, honey. [laughter]
>> Keep it rolling.
>> I [ __ ] never take a dragon believer
off my profile. I think that's awesome.
He believes in dragons.
>> Oh my god.
>> Why don't you Why don't you do some
research? Yeah, there's something weird
going on where all throughout history
people talk about giants and people talk
about dragons.
>> Yep. [snorts] And then yeah, giants were
apparently not real and now we're
finding those. And then Noah's Arc
apparently wasn't real. We're finding
that. And all this stuff that's just not
real and was legend is now like, oh
yeah, that's obviously right there.
>> I think very few of those stories were
fiction. And I think this is evident
when when they find things like Troy,
>> you know, which Troy was thought to be a
fairy tale was thought to be fiction
forever. And then they're like, "Oh, we
actually found the city."
>> Yeah.
>> Wow. [laughter]
>> Well, and also like back then it was so
[ __ ] difficult to write a book. You
had to write it by hand.
>> You had to know how to write.
>> Yeah. And you know how to read. Yeah.
Nobody knew how to read or write. And
then you got to imagine like how many
people are writing fiction. Who the [ __ ]
is reading it? more likely when you're
around back then, it's important to
write a detailed history of what has
happened so that your future generations
will have they won't have to learn from
scratch.
>> Yeah. You want accurate accuracy there.
But that's that's another thing that
throws a monkey wrench in the whole
Egypt thing too is like hieroglyphs
appear fully formed and sophisticated,
right?
>> It's not like there was a you can see
the evolution of that. You start at like
Old Kingdom and it is flawless. It's
like engineering language right there.
And so where's the right how
>> how how where does it start from?
>> So a group of five dudes are over here
like, "Okay, we're gonna make the cart
and we're going to do this and this
symbol means this." No, it just shows
up.
>> Well, the the idea that we have a we
have a complete understanding of the
past is just we should just start from
there cuz that's foolish. Yeah. And one
of the things that you detail so well is
some of these temples and the sound that
resonates out of these temples and some
of them that are just carved right into
a mountain with incredible precision.
>> And we don't understand how. We don't
really know when. It's just kind of
guesswork when Yeah.
>> And we have no idea what equipment they
used because it's not possible they did
that with other rocks.
>> No.
>> So what did they do? So that that the I
made a Kyasa temple video a couple weeks
ago and it was like that's the one
that's in India carved straight out of
the mountain, right?
>> Out of volcanic rock that is insanely
hard.
>> I got I got so much blowback that that
was soap stone or that was this stone
and there's this there's a YouTube
channel called Proto Civilization. They
did this experiment where this dude took
a pickaxe, hardened steel pickaxe and
they measured how much of volume they
could remove from the mountain on like
behind Kyloa like not near the temple.
They they remove like an area about this
big, maybe that deep. They have the
scans for
>> So you you're like six inches and like a
half of
>> maybe maybe a half inch [snorts] deep.
And
>> how long did they work out?
>> 4 hours. And these dudes were huge.
[laughter] These dudes were were gassed
out. And it was only Yeah. 6 in little
thing. And they when they were doing the
calculations like there's no way that
the population even working non-stop
could do that. And then they tried to
destroy that temple. And you couldn't
destroy the temple with the tools they
had. So, how did they make it?
>> Then they have guys trying to destroy
the temple. What was the timeline that
they were trying to destroy the temple?
It was like a 100 guys for like 2 years
>> and and they barely scratched it.
>> And that's what we still have [laughter]
left. Two years, 100 dudes non-stop.
>> They couldn't pull anything done. It's
it's really kind of funny because it it
it begs the question, what was the
technology? And we need to really open
our minds to the possibility that there
was a civilization that had achieved
some sort of a technological
sophistication that we don't understand.
We don't know what the technology was.
We don't know why they had it, what they
did with it, but there was something
going on. And I think Kyloa is one of
the best pieces of evidence that's like,
you know, remember the Arsenal Hall
show, things that make you go home. This
is a thing that make you go home. I
mean, it's like,
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Well, they have the devil's in the
details here cuz if you look at it, Kylo
is unique. It's in the process of being
finished. It's not finished at all.
There's satellite temples that are being
worked basically from the ground up. And
you can see the construction process. It
gets a little more detailed at the top
and then at the bottom you can see the
scraping tool marks. There's scrapes and
scoops, right? But the scrapes, the
penetration depth of the scrape is is
greater than a jackhammer that we have.
So a jackhammer hydraulic one that goes
through the rock and you know takes it
out of the rock wall does not penetrate
as deeply as the marks that are still in
Kyloa. So it's something was and the
narrow it's like you can you have to go
sideways through it and the marks are
there. So they were doing it somehow
like
>> in a narrow corridor
>> in a narrow corridor with no
>> like as narrow as a human body or more
narrow?
>> It's it it goes to Yeah, it goes to a V.
So you start, it starts wide, but you
see the tool marks going all the way
through it.
>> So do you think that they started wide
and then that's how they ved it out and
then eventually got it parallel?
>> Yeah, I think I think they they were
probably using a mixture of what we do
today with with it, but I think their
tool that they were do made it so much
easier that the like the way that they
could just go in there like that looks
like it was no problem. It looks like
we're just, you know, with
>> that's so insane to think about and we
are just so egocentric in our position
that we are the most sophisticated
culture that's ever existed on earth.
And I think there's a lot of evidence
that that's not true. And the best
evidence is the stone
>> stone work.
I to me that's what got me into all of
this is like you know obviously Graham
stuff and a bunch of like this community
is there's a bunch of things that kind
of shake your worldview up. But when I
started looking into this, they were
building the Grand Egyptian Museum and
they had to move the statue of Ramsy's.
You know which one I'm talking about?
The giant one.
>> So if you go to that museum, like the
pictures don't do it justice. You're
standing and you're looking at his shin
>> and there's like a pool around it. You
know, almost fell into the pool. You
look at it's kind of hard to see, but
yeah, you're staring at his shin and you
look up and you're like, "Okay, in the
cartoon." Yeah, that's the one. So you
you barely come up to his shin and you
know Ramsay's put his his thing on
everything, but like it's funny that you
look at his face and his face that that
Egyptian face is a very generic face. It
doesn't look like Ramsay's if you look
at Ramsay's as a as his mummy. It does
not look like Ramsy's.
>> So he did this a lot though. He put his
cart on literally everything in Egypt,
>> of course. But um it's funny cuz when
they moved this, they had to use a
enormous truck with huge steel beams to
solidify it. Yeah, that's the one. Look
at this thing. [laughter] That's
>> Whoa. It's like, okay.
>> Holy [ __ ]
>> Yeah. So,
>> how many tons is this thing?
>> Oh, dude, it's crazy. I think it's in
200. It's in It's out of granite.
>> Wow.
>> It's a big boy. 400 tons.
>> What's that, Jamie? said 83 tons.
>> 83 tons covered up.
>> So, but you have to assume that that the
block that they had to to get out of the
quarry was at least 200 to to get, you
know, to remove the material around it
and stuff. So, but what I'm what the
point is there had to be a special road,
a special trailer, a big truck, and all
the stuff to move this thing.
>> And that's us now. Now, do that in sand.
No sand or no roads with just sand.
putting water on the sand and rolling it
on logs from Lebanon that are really not
that compressively strong. So like all
of it to my engineering brain was just
was absurd. And so I keep having these
things and then like the Lakma stone,
the 300 ton boulder they put at the
museum, you know, the the process they
went through on a perfectly flat. I
think Jimmy Corsetti was the one that
brought that one up. And like just
having those examples is very eye
opening to the how what tool what
equipment what you know it's it it melts
my brain dude. I I and I went to school
for this and I had to you know do a lot
of these calculations. I worked in
construction. I worked in restor
building restoration. I've had to do all
of these things and you can't move like
a boom lift on certain roads because
it'll cave the road in and those things
don't weigh as much as a Ramsay statue.
It's just so weird how these
conventional archaeologists will dismiss
any ideas that are outside of this
linear timeline theory and that oh they
were just really smart back then.
>> They they figured it out with copper
tools and sand and this that like
>> it doesn't even make sense. None of it
makes sense.
>> They say they're really smart but they
also don't believe the mythology or the
kings list or anything like that. It's a
simultaneous oh they were super smart
but this stuff was imaginary. You know
the stuff they put on the walls wasn't
real. But the how they built it was
>> it gets to a certain point where they
can't explain it away and then they go
into imagination instead of saying hey
maybe we don't have a full picture of
this like may look what we can do today
is so preposterous that it looks like
magic to anybody that lived 200 years
ago. We all know that like just I drove
here in a Tesla. It goes 0 to 60 in
under two seconds. It I press a button
it drives me home. Yeah.
>> What? [laughter]
>> Imagine that [clears throat] explaining
that to someone 200 years ago. I left
the club last night [laughter]
and I was on the phone with a buddy of
mine and I just press and it just takes
me home. I don't even have to pay
attention. [laughter]
>> You have a global communication device
in your pocket. It can access all the
all the world's information
>> and I'm on the phone with a guy who
lives in Connecticut and we're talking.
I mean, the whole thing is crazy and
this is normal.
>> Wipe the earth's memory and then you're
the only one that has a memory of this
civilization. Try and explain that to
somebody that doesn't. You'd be they'd
be like,
>> "No." Imagine if you could find this
technology 200 years from now after a
nuclear war and after people had been
like using sticks and stones and [ __ ]
animal skins for clothes and then
someone stumbles upon some bunker
somewhere and inside there's intact
computers and cell phones and satellite
dishes. You'd be like, "What the [ __ ] is
this stuff?
>> This is magic." And then people would
try to for hundreds of years try to
backgineer it and explain it.
>> Yeah. You know,
>> like what? Okay, that's a that's a
perfect segue, though, because you could
have an instruction manual with those
things, right? I could tell you I could
make an instruction man. This is how you
use this cell phone,
>> right?
>> Memories wiped. Cataclysm, whatever
happens, no one's going to be able to
read English. Not only that, what if
it's someone like me who finds
[laughter] that thing? And I'm like,
what? Huh?
Cell phone.
>> Then you start worshiping it.
>> Signal. What's a signal? It's in the
air. Can you catch it with a net?
[laughter]
>> Yeah. Yeah, it's it's preposterous, but
there's there's okay. The way I look at
it though is the language that you have
to read is the geometry. And that's why
the tech comparisons are so so powerful
is because the geometry is guiding and
routing signals and it's doing
something. It's performing a function in
your phone or your TV or whatever. And
on a macro scale, that's exactly what
they were doing too. You know, they were
routing human behavior through temples.
they were routing all this uh you know
organization, societal organization and
structure for these components. So at a
base level they're doing the same thing
except you're kind of like the data
packet. You're the technology instead of
the cell phone, you know.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And then there's like
whatever is going on with the pyramids
in terms of like what the actual
function of the pyramids was. the, you
know, obviously the conventional
position is that those were tombs, but
you know, this Filipo Byondi stuff,
Bondi [clears throat]
or Beyond
>> Beyond,
>> how am I saying his am I saying his name
wrong?
Uh, he was very interesting guy and very
humble and, you know, didn't seem like
he was using hyperbole when he was
describing these things and he was
talking about how many times they've
done these scans.
>> Yeah. And uh people will just want to
dismiss that data. And in fact, they
retracted his paper.
>> What?
>> Yeah. Yeah. The the Yeah. There's like a
big controversy
on that.
>> He just did the scan of the Titanic and
nailed it.
>> Uh-huh. Not only that, he's also done
scans of existing structures in Egypt
that they know that they've already
mapped out. Exactly. And he got all the
dimensions correct.
>> So it's not like this stuff doesn't
work. And so if you've done repeated
scans of this area, instead of
dismissing it, well, I just don't
understand why they're not all gathering
around and wanting to have conversations
with him and going to look at that
stuff.
>> It doesn't make sense from a business
perspective either because if you
discover this stuff, that's like an
unlimited source of tourism.
>> 100%.
>> Which
Have you Have you been to Egypt?
>> No. Yeah. Okay, dude. When you go there,
you're going to walk on the plateau and
you're going to be like, "If I had a
team of a 100 dudes, I could clear this
thing in a couple months." Like the the
work is not the problem. That's really
not it.
>> It's the bottleneck of the It is
absolutely
>> Yeah. bureaucracy.
>> Yeah.
>> The people that run it.
>> You go there and like there's there's
vantage points of like that famous
picture of the pyramids with all three
of them, the camel walking by. There's
like that's like a vantage point where
you can go and look at everything. You
can see it with your eyes without
looking at the satellite. There's
something under here. There's something
under here. There's something under
here. And then there's gateways into it
everywhere all over the place. There's
gated off doorways into the underground
that's like right up the causeway. Ben's
done a great job showing that.
>> So it's I think it's the
I don't want to say it's a fear, but
like
>> it's ego.
>> It's Yeah, I
>> it's human ego. It's the fact that
they've been they've been saying a
certain thing. They have been laying out
a certain narrative for a long time. And
these guys, they teach this this their
reputation is based on it. And one of
the things that experts love to be is
the gatekeeper of information.
>> You know, if you try to talk to a
gatekeeper of you try to talk to an
expert about something that you don't
understand, almost always you're met
with dismissal. No, no, no. You don't
understand. Let me explain. The King's
List is all fiction. You don't. No, no,
no, no, no. These were tombs. We know
there were tombs. Let it go. Like,
[ __ ] you don't know [ __ ] [laughter]
You're just another human who's been
looking at this thing. And by the way,
this whole [ __ ] this whole just
academia, academia period is recent.
>> Well, I Eric Weinstein has done a great
job in in showing how like how gatekept
that is.
>> And I think there's a movement now where
it's like, okay, well, you can say this,
but we're going to show you the
opposite. We're going to show you that
it's that there is proof. There's
overcuts in in granite. There's all this
weird stuff that we can't do today. The
cultures say different stuff than the
history books say. There there's a a
disconnect.
>> The drill hole.
>> The drill hole. Yes.
>> The disconnect is insane at this point.
I was I when I got into it, there was
like a a small hill of conspiracies when
this was, you know, first.
>> When did you get into this?
>> Probably like 12 years ago.
>> Do you remember what got you?
>> Um it was one Graham's book because I I
was um
>> Fingerprints of the Gods. Yep. I did um
I did high-rise window cleaning before
this. [laughter]
>> Oh my god, dude.
>> I've always said that's the [ __ ]
scariest job ever.
>> I was terrified. And I like before I did
it, I was I kind of had a fear of
heights, but I had to like really get
rid of that quick.
>> How did you get that job?
>> I It kind of fell in my lap, honestly. I
had a window cleaning business. My dad
had done it for years before, so we
clean like fast food restaurants and
stuff. Made great money in high school.
And then um there's there's huge money
in uh in high-rise window cleaning. You
know, these want to do it. No one wants
to do it. Yeah. [laughter] The insurance
is crazy. Like you have to have huge
upfront cash to rent this equipment.
Like it's it's a wild [snorts] business.
But I had
>> so much time I would just put my
headphones in. I would listen to books.
And so I was
>> so I was hanging off of buildings
listening to Graham and everybody and
like
>> I would want to hear creeks and things.
I would want [laughter]
if something starts giving out. I would
want to be like razor sharp. I'd want to
have suction cups on my hands.
>> It It was one in one out. It wasn't I
wasn't noise cancelling that one but
[laughter]
>> yeah. So
>> Wow. So that's how you got into it.
>> Yeah, kind of. And then um uh like
Magical Egypt, there's a show called Mag
John Anthony West. I had him on a couple
times.
>> I love his work.
>> Oh, he was amazing.
>> So So the people I really resonated with
the the engineering type of mindset cuz
I went to college for computer
engineering and so when they when you
explain it in that way, my brain just
got a little tickled cuz I didn't really
think there was anything going on in
agent history at all until I started
looking into that. And then um what
really kicked it off was like the
Lebanon Ballbeck area. That stuff just
smashed me in the face, right? Like that
stuff is insane.
>> So the the size of those stones is
beyond it's beyond comprehension.
>> And the whole the whole base of it, it's
not just the trilithon. The whole base
of it is stones that are upwards of 400
tons.
>> And there's no record of it. That's
what's really weird because the Romans
kept meticulous records of the
construction. And they have records of
the construction of these buildings.
They do not have a record of the
construction of the base. Like whatever
that was was probably ancient and
probably there a long time before they
ever started building on it.
>> I think it's Phoenician honestly.
>> Phoenician.
>> Phoenician. Yeah. Phoenician Canaanites.
>> So what year were we talking that
>> I think Baldick is pre flood? I'm pretty
convinced that it's pre- flood. pre
flood, younger, driest flood or pre
>> at least at least the base of it cuz you
can see there's like a there's an outer
wall and they're huge stones and then
there's the inner temple wall right
there's a discoloration between the two
there like one is clearly older than the
other at least in repairs you can see
clear layers of repair right but the the
Canaanite the Phoenician Canaanites were
they helped build the temple Solomon's
temple in Jerusalem and in the uh
underground of that temple is a stone
that's damn near just as big as the
trollethon stone It's just not open to
the public. You don't see it a lot. You
have to photos online.
>> Yeah. Uh I think it's a western wall,
Jamie. Um it's
>> I I don't know the estimates of it
because I don't know how deep it is, but
it looks enormous. And so they would
help uh the Egyptians build too. So they
were kind of like a contractor
essentially. They were really good at um
sailing, navigation, and uh they could
move really big [ __ ] rocks. And so
that's the legends are um linked kind of
by the Templar tradition if you know any
of that back story.
>> Not really. You know Timothy Hogan the
the night templar master.
>> I' I've heard of it but I don't know
much about the history of it.
>> So so they they kind of are the the
bridgeformationally between where all of
this is coming from because they were
the first ones to excavate in Jerusalem
uh off the record. you know they were uh
the Templars were supposed to guard
pilgrims when they were you know going
to the sacred sites but that was like
their front and then the back was were
excavating in Egypt and Jerusalem and
you see their graffiti everywhere
there's templar graffiti on uh felt
temple in Egypt in uh a whole bunch of
places in the that the Noah's arc stones
the the anchor stones those are Templar
crosses those aren't Christian crosses
>> so you'll it's the uh the angled
>> the angled cross you know where the V's
and they go in that's the Templar
So their graffiti is kind of everywhere
they went. That's where they would they
would leave their mark saying that
that's you know one to communicate to
other Templars that this was a site that
they've been to but also saying that
there's something here that's important.
>> Jamie, did you find that um [snorts]
Western stone?
>> Well,
[clears throat] I'm not sure exactly
which one I'm supposed to be on the
screen. I don't know which one. I don't
know if that's it or
>> No, you want to say Western Wall? No,
Jerusalem. Western. Well,
>> ballback is the
>> um
>> that's like the I don't think that's
what you were looking for either. That's
why I didn't look for that.
>> Keep scrolling down there.
>> Pray wall.
>> There's a big
>> Maybe if you write huge stone.
>> Yeah, just say megalith. Western wall
megalith.
>> Yeah, that's the one.
>> Okay. Whoa.
>> Yeah. So, yeah. Whole Wikipedia page for
it. It's not like
>> Holy [ __ ] It's not a secret or
anything, but the
>> Holy [ __ ]
>> Yeah, that's the foundation of Solomon's
Temple.
>> HOLY [ __ ] LOOK at the size of that.
>> Oh my god. That's insane.
>> Yeah. And they have more than that one.
>> 11.5 feet tall, 41 feet long.
>> And what is it made of?
>> I don't know that one. I want to say
it's limes. It looks like limestone, but
>> 500 tons.
>> Yep.
>> Holy [ __ ]
>> I think Brian Forester's picture was
pretty good, too.
>> Oh my god. [snorts]
>> Ridiculous, right?
>> That's just the exposed face is 44.5 ft
long.
>> Yeah.
>> The largest building block, one of the
largest building blocks in the world.
>> Whoa. So, prior estimates ranged up to
16.5 m,
>> 550 to 600 tons. Wow.
>> So that that range is the entire bottom
of Balbeck. So
what the connection there is there's
two. One is the builders from the
Phoenician builders is the the there's
like a guild that did this huge work.
They leave traces in the stone though
and they're they're called
microsphererals and it's a it's an it's
a reaction low energy nuclear reaction
leaves these um so like if you have a
meteorite impact or the uh plasma new
plasma physics like the uh the plasmoid
science that's coming out now that stuff
leaves these in the stone so there's
traces of plasma interaction in Balbeck
in uh Jerusalem in Iran and some sax say
one month.
>> I've seen this on your page. Yeah. So,
I've seen this. What's this? Maybe it'
be a good thing to just go to that
because you lay it out really well.
>> Okay.
>> Where is it on your page? Do you
remember?
>> Um it's fairly recent.
>> Made a new one. Yeah. Um has to do with
the ringing rocks, too. The the the ones
that that ring are
>> which he's got it up there. Which one do
you think it would be?
>> In sound science. Um insane plasma
anomalies found in ancient stone. Um
that's
>> Well, no, that's the that's the
levitation one. The the exotic metals.
Sorry, my bad. [snorts]
>> Yep.
>> All right.
>> And this time it's not what's in the
sand, it's what's in the rock. Exotic
metals from the cutting tool have been
found lodged inside the rock, and
they're typically only found in
asteroids and meteorites. They've also
been found in megalithic sites all over
the world. [music] Back in February, I
was in the largest and crispiest temple
in all of Egypt. I had watched this
video by Versidoko and [snorts] it was
saying how these are unexplainable cut
marks because the cuts are
microscopically small. There is no
reasonable explanation for a cut that
sharp even today without lasers. This
research team got a sample and they were
looking for exotic metals that the
Egyptians did not have, which they
found. But they also found these. Let me
explain what these lines are. When we
cut granite today, we used giant saws.
These saws leave a circular tool mark
like the stone my dog Harvey is
guarding. What was found in the Carac
stones were perfectly straight lines,
which means in layman's terms that
something was cutting it more like
butter than like a circular saw. Anytime
you cut anything, it leaves a mark.
Inside those marks are microscopic
cracks where pieces of the tool can
embed itself. But that typically only
happens with high-speed rotation. So,
they got their hands on another sample
from Dashor. This one has a sloping cut
which is insanely difficult to
manufacture. In this one, they found
three elements that are typically only
used in the cooling circuits of nuclear
reactors. When they compared this
ancient cut to a modern cut of the same
material, the only difference was the
aged appearance. Now, the material they
found the most of was copper. It was an
alloy that the Egyptians could not have
produced enough heat to make. Best guess
was that they used chemical salts to
intensify a natural reaction to create
more heat. To create the metal, they
would need microscopic precision in the
mixture. That is something that we do
for electronic circuits. Atomic level
imperfections are introduced in silicon
to produce transistors. [music]
But just by doing that, a simple rock
gets transformed into something that can
show you me. But we haven't even got to
the wildest part. Microsphererals were
also found in the samples. Bees only
come from cosmic impacts, volcanoes,
lightning strikes, geological processes,
and human industrial processes. It
happens when something gets really hot
and cools really fast. These were found
in Dash, in Balbeck, in Iran, and pretty
much everywhere that has megalithic
architecture. Well, how do we rule out
geology? Balbeck. A typical meteorite.
Meteorites have about one per square
meter. Balbeck had three per centimeter.
One thing that can do this is something
called cavitation. If you symmetrically
compress a water bubble, it'll release
energy. It's the main reason that
propellers on boats get worn out so
fast. Here you can see what happens in
this gear. You can see it happening in
this gear. But there's another way to do
it. If you hit aluminum foil with
ultrasonic frequencies, it creates these
holes. With the right frequency, silver
is a byproduct. Now, there has been
demonstrations of vibrating a rock and
then putting a tube drill with weight on
top of it and it will actually drill the
hole itself. [music] Now, with water
involved, there could be a cavitation
effect going on there, but this has not
been studied. What is for sure is there
is some atomic alchemy going on. This is
on page 67 of Cryptex if you'd like to
[snorts] further explore that concept.
[music] There are two huge issues with
the normal explanation. One, it does not
make sense. Two, it does not fund the
haircut that I desperately [laughter]
need. And that's glad a haircut
uh [snorts] ending made it.
>> Well, the the whole thing about the the
cutting of these things is we're trying
to rationalize or we're trying to
explain it away using what we use today.
>> Yeah.
>> And there's a very real possibility that
technology was super advanced but in a
different direction that we haven't
pursued. If you think about like the
directions that we pursued with internal
combustion engines, electronics,
electricity, all the different things
that we use as technology today, that's
just the way we went with the ingenuity
that human beings possess. It doesn't
mean that these people had to go that
way. And it seems like they probably
went a different way. And we don't
really know what that way is.
>> I I I think it's an easier way than we
are doing it, though. Like there's a lot
of the that science that I was just
talking about there is a lot cheaper to
run these experiments. You you familiar
with John Hutcherson?
>> No. So back in the 80s he made this lab
that he called the submarine and it was
just this amalgamation of of uh Tesla
coils and frequency generators and he
was monitoring like earth frequencies
and cosmic stuff and he was able to get
objects to levitate and he was he could
um he could uh basically jellify metal
and embed metals within other metals and
he was just messing around with some
frequencies and eventually his work got
classified. died and he was kind of I
think the Canadian government
confiscated it and so that it was like
shoved under the rug but his samples
survived and so the samples that he had
got uh acquired by a guy named Bob
Grineer and he's been doing uh analysis
on these things and he found the same
microsphererals that are in the ancient
stones that the unexplainable ones in
John Hutcherson's samples. So there's a
link here between this plasma physics,
this low energy plasma physics and the
the ancient stuff. And the way we're
going is very high energy physic like
the large hydron collider like CERN.
That stuff is is enormously
energy consuming. Like the the the
experiments they do there have to like
shut power grids off, right? This stuff
you can run in a room. like it just it's
just basically it's it's putting
manipulating plasma through matter in a
symmetrical geometric way and it
produces these really weird results and
there's a lot of and the best way to
describe it is is transmutation like old
school alchemy. [snorts]
>> So
so here's the question like what what
were they using to make this happen?
This is the So, so Bob explains it
really well, but I think I and I'm not
like 100% on this, but there was a tool
that we are mistaking for for an
artifact, if that makes sense. There was
a tool that doesn't look like a tool.
And I think what they were doing is, you
know, the scoop mark tool like the one
that you see in Egypt and everywhere
else.
It looks like something that you would
it might be so simple is what I'm saying
that we don't recognize it as a tool.
So, so within their system of doing
things whether it was generating power
or frequencies that were able to be uh
you know passed through the human body
because this plasma physics like all
this new stuff the plasma can go through
your through your body and not harm you.
There's there's safe ways to do it. And
if you can if you can transmit it to an
object and this is where the the ancient
like cone stuff gets really really
interesting stuff.
>> Yeah. So like the pine cone from the the
Sumerian stuff where the guy's given a
pine cone out.
>> There's these things called votive
cones. J heard of those.
>> No.
>> J look up votiv cones.
They would put these cones they would
they put a kun kuneaoiform inscription
on these cones and they would embed them
in the temple walls. It's basically like
a uh cornerstone or like a consecration
of the temple and what they were they
don't look like they would be
significant in any way to the
construction process but we see these
cones all over the place. That's it.
Yeah.
>> So basically they're they're uh yeah
type of foundational deposit
important billions.
Yeah. Historical memory of the ruler and
his achievements. But I don't I think
this is another misinterpretation of
>> Yeah. This is the Met Museum's like
official stance on it.
>> Yeah, of course. [snorts]
>> So, what do you think this is?
>> So, I think this is a way of focusing
this type of energy. So, the same rock
would have
>> that little thing is. How big is that
thing?
>> That's like handheld. You could
>> So, you think that stone with those
writings on was how they focused energy?
So the the way that this stuff works is
it they basically embed themselves in
the stone. These little plasma objects
are called plasmoids. They basically
embed themselves.
>> That's so cool looking,
>> right?
>> Look at that writing, man. It's so
bizarre.
>> You know, Kunea form too is or Sumerian
is a is a language isolate. There's no
it just appears.
>> There's there's no precursor.
Kuna form is like English like it's a
it's a style of writing, but Sumerian,
no precursor. Just here. [ __ ] weird.
>> Yeah. And so they have these they have
these things. And if you look at the the
megalithic work from the Sumerians, like
the Temple of Ionis or Kelesi, that
stuff is the most precise stuff. It's
more precise than anything I've ever
seen. Um it's a ya non.
>> I tried. [laughter]
>> A close.
>> Which one is it? A y an i.
>> It's in Turkey or Anatolia. Yeah. Silia
geometry there. That um basalt.
>> Whoa.
>> So the gray the gray one uh I think it's
like andite or something.
>> The one above.
>> No, no, no. If you zoom out, Jamie,
>> uh it says the fortress of Aonis Turkey.
That one. Yeah,
>> those are very hard bassalts, I believe.
And uh they are
completely buried. It's it's like the
the vast majority of this temple is is
utterly unrecognizable. But they have
the same polygonal masonry, same
signature of of uh you know, everything
we see around the ancient world. But um
yeah, Matt Lory is actually doing some
great boots on the ground work with
this. He's got the I think the only
footage that I know of of him walking
around this place. So click that. Um
this
>> No, go back one more. That one.
Uritarians
down or one more.
>> There you go. That one. So, you can
clearly see that the uh like the style,
you know, is
>> exceptionally ancient. And then you've
got the same thing you see in Peru where
the newer stuff, the mud brick is on top
of it and you know, clear signature of
of this was exceptionally old.
>> And so these cones, this is the
question. What what are they doing? How
are they getting a stone cone to project
energy? Like what is the process or what
do they believe?
>> What's the theory?
>> From my understanding, it's a resonance
with the plasma itself. So, it embeds
itself in the rock when it goes through
this process and the sun can do this.
The like natural processes can do this
and they do it all the time. They
there's a uh the phenomenon is a a rock
that rings. So, it creates these little
voids in the stone. The plasma goes
through the stone and it eats away at
the grain boundaries and it creates
these little voids in the stone. And
when you tap on the stone and this is
all over Egypt, all the obelisk ring,
most of the central altars will ring and
it is still it's the process isn't 100%
worked out yet. We're still trying to
figure it out. But what I from what I
understand is the the cones or a sharp
object even your finger can do it. It's
uh basically a sharp point is where
charge accumulates, right? That's why
that we have uh lightning rods on top of
houses.
That is essentially a tool. And if you
have two of them, you can kind of guide
and position this and and work the the
field that it's in. It's it's creates
this thing called a monopole. And it's
you know, magnets have two poles like a
north south. A monopole has one pole and
it's all it's a theoretical particle but
it has one pole and it's embedded in
into this rock right but it bends the
field around it. It bends the uh
magnetic field of the earth around it.
So if the cone or the tool that you're
using resonates with that cavity of the
stone then it can essentially move it
around like a
>> Right. But where are they getting this
energy from and how are they getting it
into the rock? So that's that's what
we're that's kind of my process what I'm
trying to figure out with the whole
temple network of things because when
you connect the basic idea of it is
connecting the ground to the ionosphere
and if you create a bridge through
geometry or temple then you have a
connection between those two and then
the hardware of that temple kind of
routes that that signal and then the
signal can then be essentially broadcast
out to other nodes in the network and
that's where you're getting your u it's
like a Wi-Fi like a router and so the
process of making them though is it you
have to essentially pass this
energy through the rock you have to pl
pass this plasma through the rock and it
it reconfigures the the structure of it
internally and one of those signatures
is the ringing rocks that's why I made
that the video the other day
>> how the [ __ ] could they figure that out
>> that the divergent science that's what
you're saying is is they went down that
path and it's honestly
To me, it's easier to understand than
our side the way we're doing things. I I
think we're kind of beating we hit a
dead end at some point. We're kind of
beating it over the head. Not like we're
not making progress, but this stuff
seems to be the right way to do it. And
it seems like they everywhere knew it.
They could reconfigure this stuff and
that it would explain a lot of things.
Like I I'm not a huge fan of the
geopolymer theory of, you know, they
pour these rocks because there's just
too much evidence that they they were
fit together like that.
But it would explain it because that
gelification like I was saying with John
Hutchson's work with metals, it does
this to pretty much anything. It can do
it to to rock to whatever you pass this
thing through. It's it's almost like an
intelligent system. I'm I'm I'm probably
butchering a lot of this, but like the
science is this is the newest frontier
of of that research.
And so
how long do you think a civilization
would have to exist before they went
down this alternative route of
technology where they could figure that
out? This is where it gets
>> Have you heard of ringing rocks in
Pennsylvania?
>> Yeah,
>> I have not. There's a park where there's
[ __ ] tons and tons of these rocks
that people go
>> and hit with hammers and they ring like
bells.
>> What?
>> That was
>> and no one knows how what I'm looking
right now. No one knows how they got
there or how they were formed. One
[music] website said witchcraft made
them which is obviously not real. But
>> the Native Americans used them. They
would bring them to to some of their
sites, sacred sites.
>> Well, what is that rock made out of that
does that
>> ringing rocks period of a thousand years
these boulders were formed? Erosion,
activation of water. A rare geological
experience awaits visitors. When struck
lightly with a hammer, each boulder
gives off a bell-like tone. Size and
shape of the boulder affects the tone.
If removed from the site, the boulders
were no longer possessed this unique
quality.
>> Just so you don't steal them. But
[laughter]
>> yeah,
>> but maybe not. I mean, that's maybe how
you stumble across that.
>> How would that be possible?
>> Ancient times.
>> How would it be possible if you remove
the boulders and like put it in your
backyard? You couldn't get it to ring.
>> I just made a video on the ringing rock
phenomenon.
>> Yeah, they got to be touching each other
or something. That's very strange
>> because it's weird.
>> That's weird. But it's not as weird as
this idea that you're you're suggesting
[laughter] because it's like [snorts]
when you know we have to think how long
did it take us to get to the point where
we have cell phones.
>> How long did it take them to the point
where they were able to use geometric
patterns to
>> connect the ionosphere with temples and
>> generate plasma power with stones? What?
Yeah.
>> Like what are we talking about? How long
do you think these civilizations
existed?
>> I don't I I'm I'm not sure that it's
like a a the way we're looking at it. I
don't think it's it that fits like the
let's take the dynastic Egyptians for
example.
>> Okay.
>> I don't think they came up with that. I
think there's two classes like the
Osirian, the shaft and great pyramid.
Those are classified in my opinion as
hardware and infrastructure. Whereas the
temples like Luxor Carnac and the the
ones that you would traditionally think
of as Egyptian, those are the software
layer, the operating system of how to
use this stuff, right? So you have two
separate things and then you have in the
middle you have the wetwware that's a
human. So the wetwware can be programmed
essentially using the infrastructure and
the instructions. So that to me doesn't
seem to this whole system does not seem
to be invented by the dynastic culture.
It seems to have been interpreted by
them maybe through a representative of
the prior culture. That's like the the
kind of the Graham idea of you know
maybe there were survivors. They knew
how to work it. They came they told
these guys how to work it and then they
got a little cocky with it. And when we
say the original culture, like you are
you talking about like the king's list?
Yeah. You're talking about like these
people that supposedly lived for
thousands and thousands of years.
>> Yeah. I I don't think they were um
I mean, especially with mummification
and stuff, I don't I think they knew how
to like reinhabit reincarnate
intentionally into another body
essentially, you know, so they could
continue that.
>> Where did you get this from?
>> What do you mean?
>> Where'd you get this idea from? I mean
the mummification idea is how they
passed on knowledge. That's that's like
Egyptian lore. That's that's their
that's how they did it. The so so Horus
is the is the sun god on earth, right?
He the the the wisdom of Horus gets
transmitted to every successive pharaoh.
So you would go through the training
through the the temple complexes and you
go up the Nile and you would learn what
you need to learn at each temple. Each
temple has a theme. Exact. it like every
single one of them is trying to teach a
life lesson, philosophical lesson,
history lesson. And so you you would
take that initiatic path and then at the
end of that path, you would be anointed
as the sun god on earth, right? But that
was a process that you had to basically
tune your your brain receiver to to
handle, right? So it's like I can't go
to the gym and immediately hop on and
bench 405, right? I have to spend years
and years training and and working up to
it. But once I hit that four or five,
I'm I'm crowned the champion if I if
that's my, you know, personal best or if
I'm at a competition, right? Their
crowning of the champion would would be
downloading the previous memories of the
the prior pharaoh. It was a transfer of
of consciousness essentially. I was I
was Have you seen the show Altered
Carbon on Netflix?
>> Yes.
>> Like they had the sleeves.
>> Yeah. watch the first couple episodes.
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>> I think that was a similar process to
what they were doing, but they did it
without like a technological barrier.
>> Okay. So the idea this is like similar
to the idea of the Dollaly Lama like the
Dollaly Lama like each person is like a
reincarnated version of the Dollaly Lama
they have to go out and find who it is.
>> Yeah.
>> So the idea is that these people didn't
live that long. It's not like they lived
for tens of thousands of years but the
the essence of who they were was
transported into another vehicle,
another body.
>> Yeah.
>> Why but why do you come up with this
idea? Uh I because I think it was a
developmental process in
one I think we would maybe see some
evidence of of it and I think that the
it's kind of right in front of our face.
The mummification
phenomenon is just weird in general. You
know it's it's just a an outlier in
terms of history of of a process that we
don't really understand. And I think
what that was was a [sighs] I I would I
call it a quantum anchor in in my
terminology. And what I mean by that is
like it's a bookmark that can access a
certain amount of memory from from
another person, right? So what what the
Egyptians would do is have you seen a
like the full casket of a mummy? They
layered. There's huge there's like the
outer stone layer and there's a wood
layer and then they just keep getting
like it's like a Russian doll. Nice
doll.
>> They're they're selective with their
materials though. The se the the
selection of materials is in my opinion
what they would do to like keep that
frequency in that particular mummy. They
would hold on to that frequency and then
when whenever a new pharaoh would come
in, they would basically have a ceremony
probably involved psychedelics of some
sort and download that previous
pharaoh's memories and knowledge and
wisdom and all that stuff. And so they
could continue the the the reign based
off of inherited wisdom instead of me
talking to you about the lessons that I
learned in my life. You directly
experience them through a altered state
of consciousness. [clears throat]
>> You know about Rupert Sheldrick's uh
theory of morphic resonance.
>> Love it.
>> Weird stuff, right?
>> And it's also weird that there seems to
be some evidence that points to the fact
that it exists in nature. Like if you
teach rats how to navigate a maze on the
east coast, the rat the rats on the west
coast navigate it quicker.
>> Yeah.
>> Like it's measurable.
>> Yeah.
>> Like they figure it out quicker.
>> Yeah.
>> And that you could pass this information
on to generations. Like um there was
that study that that there was a young
man who uh I think it was a lavender
smell or something. He did. Well,
there's one that he did. There's one
that they did with uh caterpillars where
they figured out that caterpillars can
contain memories.
>> Oh, cuz they they dissolve themselves
and they become the butterfly and they
still remember this stuff. Yeah,
>> exactly.
>> Yeah. And so there's some weird stuff
with memory and with genetics. And that
memory is somehow or another like
memories of puzzles and different things
that they've tried to get people to do
and animals to do. And also different
reactions that they have to stimuli
whether it's negative or positive like
getting shocked if they smell a certain
thing and then future generations are
they avoid that thing.
>> Yeah. It seems that we don't totally
understand what memory is and we we
probably have a very crude idea of uh
how to contain it and how long it lasts
and like what what it actually is. That
it might be information that just exists
in some other state that maybe a very
sophisticated civilization has figured
out how to quantify that and how to
capture it and how to transmit it and
how to use it. Yeah, that's that's
basically the idea. And I think that's
what they're saying directly in the
Egyptian text. I honestly do believe
that because they get hyperdetailed on
how to navigate this this realm and it
seems very similar to like the stuff you
see of the DMT research or you encounter
an entity or you have this shared
experience of something that you can't
really explain. Maybe they were
explaining that. Maybe that's what they
were, you know, they were mapping that
like we're kind of mapping it now. But
they the way they did it was to if you
go into the temples they restrict your
sensory input. That's kind of a po the
point of the temple is you start in this
big outside courtyard and you narrow
into the final the the nouse of the
temple the main big old box of it. And
when you get in there the the
environment is extremely acoustic. They
would obviously have like incense and
stuff going to so you have this like you
have this tuned
state that you're in, right? And then
the the deity itself in each temple the
in in Egypt, Rome and the Hindu culture,
all of their temples were the literal
bodies of the deities. It wasn't a we
associate them with churches and
churches are not the same as cathedrals
and cathedrals are not the same as
temples. Like these are they're all
technically a temple if you want to put
them under that umbrella, but the
function of each one wildly different,
right? So the Egyptian version was was
uh to align your consciousness with this
sort of energy frequency. And if there
in physics, there's a concept called
spontaneous synchronization where if you
have a metronome and it's on a moving
base, it will sync up with other
metronomes on that moving base. And what
it is is frequency in training pretty
much. It's it's the the dominant
frequency subtly aligns the other
frequencies until they match up. And in
my opinion, that's what they were doing
with the brain. And they were
essentially building that that receiver
of their brain through this ritual
process to receive that deity's
consciousness. And that is that is the
temple side of things. That's not what
like the Osiran's doing. The Oyeran is
not one of those things. It's it's a
very huge large infrastructure project
that looks like it was meant to
withstand a whole bunch of stuff. The
temple is is something that's meant it
looks more like a programming interface
where you would go in and you would
learn this stuff like a like a
university but basic like Neo
downloading the kung fu you know.
>> So how long would a civilization have to
exist before they figured something like
this out? That's this is where all of
all of everything kind of converges
because because if we have
if we have evidence of I I don't want to
say it's ancient aliens, but a a
civilization that appears to be alien to
us like we were just talking about with
if you found a vault with all our
technology locked into it, you'd be
like, "What the fuck?" If if that were
the case then and it and this cataclysm
happened, you know, I think that their
timeline is correct. I think that we
should take their timeline seriously.
The the Sumerian and Egyptian kings
list, I think that they're probably more
accurate than we want to give off.
>> And their timeline is hundreds of
thousands of years,
>> especially the Sumerians, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Like some of the rulers, how what's the
longest ruler?
>> I think it's like 50,000 something like
that. Yeah.
>> Can you imagine being around here 50,000
years?
>> And then you have things like the book
of Enoch. Yeah.
>> Right. which which talks about the
watchers who come down and mate with the
daughters of men and create the
Nephilim, a race that destroys
everything.
>> Yeah.
>> Which sounds a lot like us.
>> Uh but this idea of being visited is
ubiquitous like throughout all of these
ancient cultures. It's they all talk of
something and it's generally coming
down.
>> Yeah.
>> Like coming down from somewhere. Those
from heaven to earth came.
>> Yeah. you know, this is this is the
common theme that something comes down
from the sky.
>> I I think too that if they were that
capable of of doing this type of
transitionary uh you know, memory wiping
and redownloading type of a thing, we we
may not have really even noticed that
they were that much different unless
they look like the Peruvian mummies or
something, you know, like those things.
>> But if they could do that, then they
probably looked a lot like Egyptians.
They probably looked a lot like the the
people that they were encountering
because of this phenomenon of them
breeding with the the local populations.
And then that's where you probably get
your explosion of of civilizations at
this same exact time in history where we
get agriculture and all this this rule
of law and like how to build these crazy
things. They all pop up at the same
time. So those are those are pointing in
that direction in my opinion. And then
once they got a stable civilization to
to kind of hold on to, they could slowly
build it back up and and keep this
process going. But then you have
something like that Mesopotamia
um flood that was intermediate between
the younger dus and now where you have
these periodic like we almost made it
and then the information gets gets
thrown back again. So it's just been
this like cat-and- mouse game of we
almost got it and no something happens,
>> right? So there's probably a period of
peace in terms of like natural disasters
and cataclysmic wars and whatever it was
a period of peace where there was enough
time where they could innovate and get
to this insane level of sophistication.
Yeah. And the evidence that we have is
probably these megalithic structures.
>> Yes. And that's that to me is the they
knew where the infrastructure was
because even the uh like like Ankor Watt
has megalithic infrastructure. There's
there's a bunch of places that you can't
really tell it's megalithic because they
would build on top of these temples,
>> right?
>> And the infrastructure part like like
Teotukon, Chichinita, those the that
stuff is the best example I use because
they they are also nesting dolls of
pyramids, right? So the inner core of
the of the uh the pyramids seems to be
that someone knew where that thing was
and they were like look you got to build
it like this and get it aligned properly
and then it'll work again. And then they
just kept kept on doing that and then it
just builds up and then by the time you
look at like Carac has megalithic stuff
in it. It's the biggest temple in Egypt.
But around it it looks there's there's
Greor Roman stuff. There's like modern
repairs. It's so hard to tell what is
the most ancient stuff, but you could
when you encounter it in Egypt, you
physically feel that it's the ancient
stuff. There's there's like a there's a
vibe to it. You can you can see it. So,
well, this has been detailed, too. When
people talk about the erosion uh when
they talk about the erosion,
particularly in Giza and some of these
areas, there's different levels of
erosion. There's some erosion that seems
to indicate tens of thousands of years.
>> Yeah. And that's that's what's thrown
kind of a monkey wrench in it. There's
like Petra is a great example of this.
Some of the the stuff in Petra is uh
[snorts] crazy crazy eroded and some of
it looks like like pristine perfect, you
know, and and there's they're very Petra
is only like 10% excavated. You walk
around Petra and you're you're walking
on the roof of some building and you you
can look down in there and it's Yeah. So
th that stuff in the right place where
where they put these big uh like the
treasury and stuff looks fine. It looks
it looks like they you know well
preserved. But there's this that guy
right there. The breathtaking natural
wonder natural colors
>> to the left. Jamie.
>> Yeah. Down and to the right.
>> To the right. Yeah.
>> That one. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Look how heavily eroded that
sucker is.
>> Isn't this where that lion is, too?
>> Yeah.
>> There's like a lion cut into the wall.
>> You know what I'm talking about?
>> I'll look it up real quick.
>> But hold on a second. stay on that one.
[snorts]
>> So that
>> so you feel like this is like quite a
bit older.
>> The whole the whole site of Petra is a
crazy enigma, dude. The the engineering
that went in there just to make that
place livable is looks super super old.
And then you'll walk through you'll
you'll encounter one of these guys and
then you'll encounter a perfect one in
the treasury and then you'll encounter
one that's just like is a hole in the
wall that looks like it was under
construction. It's just like all of it
does not make any sense.
>> So all of Petra is essentially carved
out of these mountains.
>> Yeah, there's there's a couple Roman
there's a Roman temple and an
amphitheater at the end of it, but the
main stuff is Yeah,
>> there's a lion.
>> Oh yeah,
>> that's a old looking [ __ ] that look
like an elephant. What is that?
>> You see it in the right shape which is
way looked like a mountain lion that
was, you know, could have lived there.
>> It's got a tail. Okay, that's a
different one. Is that a different one
or is it a different
>> a different one?
>> Wow.
>> Um, can I bring up side note as you're
talking? Uh, I was thinking of something
and looked it up and didn't get taken
off my path. Is there a place like the
hill described on telepathy tapes in
ancient descriptions of anything? You
know what I'm talking about? The hill.
>> Do you know about that?
>> I I know the telepathy tapes. I'm I'm
not familiar with this. So, the
telepathy tapes, they talk about these
non-verbal autistic kids that all meet
up telepathically in this place that
they refer to as the hill. Like people
that have not encountered each other
physically all talk about this this
area.
>> And this hill is supposed to be a place
that and other people have gotten to it
too, right?
>> So, that's the weird part. As I was
thinking, it's it's uh the hill is it's
it maybe is a hill, maybe isn't a hill,
you know? It's it's out somewhere in the
subconscious or wherever the hell
they're actually going. Yeah.
>> But as you're talking about, you know,
back in the past, I'm like, well, that
it didn't just start in the last 50
years,
>> right?
>> That probably has been there forever.
>> Well, the ancient Greece has somewhere
like dream temples are talking about.
[snorts] If you go down to uh this says
shamanic soul flights, but I think more
interesting is ancient Irish and Celtic.
They actually I mean mound builders,
there are hills. And the way it was
described in telepathy tapes is there's
various hills. They're they're sort of
geographically located, but there are
also big giant hills where there are
thousands of people hanging out,
talking, communicating, learning.
>> People have learned hieroglyphs. They go
ask a teacher.
>> And this is why drugs are illegal.
[laughter]
>> And then as you're saying, I'm like,
they could if someone was a ruler, they
could have like cut off the p like no
one's going here anymore,
>> right?
>> We need full control.
>> That's
>> break all the tablets that show you how
to get there. Yep.
>> We're done. It's over. You know, now
this my I did this. Right.
>> I made all of this and now that's what
we
>> and there's a lot of evidence that
people do that now. Like look what the
the Taliban did when they blew up all
those ancient
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> So, and and if you once you add the
layer of like an altered state of
consciousness, like the the most
impactful
moments in some people's lives are their
first psychedelic experiences or
near-death experiences, stuff like that.
That's the download. You know, you're
you're kind of changed and altered
forever after you go through one of
these things,
>> right? So if you could control that
instead of having this this I'm just
going to see what happens on Iaska
journey you know if you could control
that and guide it which is exactly what
you find in the uh the bur actual bur
not the not the pyramid tombs because
they're not tombs in the actual burials
of the pharaohs they have spells on the
wall that that tell you how to navigate
to connect with them to connect with
other deities to it's it's how they
would they would go through this
celestial university and interact with
ancestors or uh get full memories
sometimes and and have these exp these
direct experiences that when they came
out of their ex their uh ritual they
would bring them out into the world and
teach everybody else. But to do that,
not anybody can just do that. you know,
you have to be able to hold your
conscious form in that that realm
because anyone that's gone through one
of these experiences know that it's kind
of like you're you're at the mercy of
the experience. You know, you're kind of
getting thrown around. But I think to
answer that question of like what how
long does it take their science to do
that? I think that was actually the
first core part of the science was
learning how to navigate that world. And
then everything else kind of would come
easy if you could know how to access the
information of how do I how do I jellify
this rock? How do I how do I move it?
How do I because it would it would give
you secrets to nature that you're not
necessarily going to see with your
limited sensory perception. It's going
to be something internal. It's nosis.
That's what they called it in the
ancient world. It's direct knowledge of
how the mechanics of the natural world
actually work. Jamie, see if you can
find the hieroglyphs of the path to the
afterworld or the afterlife.
>> I think it's KV7. I think it's that's
that's Ramsay's um
>> burial chamber.
>> That's weird as [ __ ]
>> I keep saying spells. I keep thinking of
prompts for
>> Oo.
>> And if you don't know the right prompt,
you know, you're not going to get the
right thing. Yeah. And
>> or it's just as magical.
>> Oh, dude. I think you just nailed
something.
>> Damn, Jimmy. Sorry.
>> Yeah. So why you apologize?
>> Jamie, you need to write a book.
[laughter]
>> That's Wow.
>> Yeah.
>> Right.
>> You got to And if you don't say it
right, you're not going to get the right
answer back, right?
>> Done that a lot. So, so yeah, if you
knew how to prompt that experience, a
DMT- like experience, and this is what
you're So, this the uh the snake around
the the whenever that it's in the
hieroglyphs is is they'll say it's
protection, you know, but that's what
I'm saying. If by holding your conscious
form, holding a space for your conscious
form, you you essentially become an
observer in this world that can navigate
it and it's protected by this this uh
your your own personal vibration that
you had to build up through this temple
initiation protocol.
>> Well, it certainly also could be under
the spell of a psychedelic experience
which a lot of people encounter
serpents.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's like a main motif in
in
>> Yeah. Like look, he's got the serpents
around him as he's traveling.
Look at the uh
>> And look, he's all white. Like he's in a
protected bubble.
>> Yeah.
>> Like he's in a vehicle.
>> Yeah. That's So this is You'll see
>> on his head, too.
>> You'll see. That's the solar disc.
>> What?
>> That's cane. Yeah.
>> What's the solar disc?
>> Solar the That's So the boat there in in
my interpretation of this is a wormhole.
Essentially, the way that we would
describe a wormhole. Uh you can click
that one, Jamie. That you're hovering
over. Yeah, that's so the solar boat is
the method of transport and this is why
I say it's it's like a direct download
because this was the protocol of like
where they were going, where they were,
how you find them and they would put
down the
prompt to to reach them.
Oh, [ __ ] it. Like, why are they writing
this stuff down?
>> That's what I'm
>> You know what I'm saying? Like, is this
nonsense or is this are they trying to
explain something? That's [snorts] an
actual process.
>> Jamie, look up the Book of Caverns.
>> You're going to love this one.
>> Okay. Go to There are these weird
figures on the Book of Caverns.
>> Like that thing.
>> Um, no. The very first one had them.
Click it and you'll probably get a
better one. Uh,
no.
>> Ken Casey wrote a book on that. Oh,
introduction by Kis.
>> That one. Tour Egypt. Right. Right
there. That tour Egypt one. Click that
one. Right above you. Right above you.
Okay. Now, go to that file extract from
the book of caverns Wikipdia comments up
there. Yeah. Look at the creatures on
the bottom there. What the hell are
those? [laughter]
>> This one is crazy, man. This the Book of
Cavern is like some of the most wild
hieroglyphic imagery you're going to see
there. That's like that to me. I'm I'm
I'm going full Nephilim on that one.
>> Yeah. What the [ __ ] are those things?
>> Yeah. And there's there's
>> They're all uniform.
>> There's optical physics in another page.
Like the spherical refraction um the the
diagram for spherical refraction is is
the image.
[snorts]
>> Where where's that? So the the Ken Keysy
thing is actually just a novel. Yeah.
>> Yeah. So there's another one. Maybe
scroll down on this one that you're
looking at here. Uh,
>> which popping up.
>> What would be the spell that we put into
the
>> What's the the prompt spell? [laughter]
>> I've got
>> Would you say spherical refraction?
>> Yeah. So So the optics of a sphere. This
is going to blow your mind. They put
this on um It's the scroll of uh man
Queen Kent Cow.
>> How about spherical refraction? Try not
to.
>> Yeah.
I mean, I ain't got no signal in here.
>> Is this it?
>> That top that one in the middle
>> right there where Jamie's
>> No,
>> it says Egyptian occult.
>> It It shows some sort of refraction
above that
>> using a Mac, Jamie. I could I could I'm
going to airdrop this to you actually.
>> See, this is why you
had my stuff prepped.
>> What is all this stuff right here?
>> So, this is these are in burial. These
are the burial chambers. the actual
burial chambers, not the not the
pyramids. So, they run
>> Oh, and look at those freaky dudes are
on the bottom. The same freaky dudes,
but they're on their knees.
>> Yeah. No, I'm telling you, it's the
weirdest stuff you'll ever see. The
hieroglyphs you see above ground and in
the like regular temples, nothing like
this.
>> They all have long ass fingers.
>> Yeah, we'll have to search for that.
>> They're all these very bizarre
>> looking creatures with long fingers.
Yeah. and they were standing up walking
in the other hieroglyphs and in this one
they're all leaning down. But it seems
it seems to be important that they
document the size of their digits in
their hands.
>> They're they're utterly unlike any other
figures that you see depicted too.
>> Jamie, can you go back to the images we
were just talking about? We were just
looking at
and
>> this one.
>> Yeah, that one. And make those guys in
the bottom bigger. Like what the [ __ ]
are those things? They look almost tied
up, too. It's
>> Well, it looks like they're on their
knees, like they're in a box.
>> And the nested gate thing that that you
see that all over the temples. The the
things that they're trapped in right
next to it is like a this nested gate
>> kind of stone doorway type thing that
you see everywhere.
>> Go back to that image again.
>> Oh, there it is. Like, what the [ __ ] are
those things, man?
>> And they don't have heads here. They
don't have heads and they have these
weird long appendages that come off of
their almost like they have two armed
like two lower arms.
>> Yeah.
>> And so when you see it larger it I
thought they were fingers
>> but now it looks way weirder than that.
>> Yeah. They're they're definitely one of
the one of the things I think is uh and
they're always kind of lower too. So,
like spirits of the underworld, I guess,
like the darker darker ones.
>> [ __ ] weird.
>> Yeah, I was going to try to use a search
to try to ask what's in the bottom of
the image, you know?
>> Yeah, good idea. What What is What's the
conventional explanation for what those
things are?
Dear Perplexity, help us out.
>> On the bottom of this image,
>> here we go. Our wonderful AI sponsor,
Perplexity,
checking available files. It's going to
be hard. It's going to have to be what?
>> Stylized humanlike figures. Some painted
black.
>> Wow. Perplexity is taking its time on
this one. Usually it bangs stuff out
quick.
>> It's freaking out.
>> Yeah, this is
>> like this is you can't know this. Double
check. [laughter]
>> Hey, this is like we're asking it to
tell us how to make a bomb.
>> We tried to talk to it the other day to
teach us how to smoke PCP.
>> Yeah,
>> it wouldn't do it. Oh man, [laughter]
you're not pro. You're not using the
right spell, dude.
>> Eventually, we convinced it that we're
on PCP. Um, wow, look how slow it's
going.
>> Can I air drop a link to you, Jamie?
>> Yeah. Do you see it? It should. Uh,
>> here it goes.
>> See if I can.
>> Some painted black and others red,
walking or standing in sequence. To the
left of them are three wavy snake- like
horizontal symbols. Yeah, I understand
that. But what is it?
>> Humanike figures.
They look they look headless.
Small standing human figures in Egyptian
style profile rendered as silhouettes
rather than detailed people. Their long
slightly bent bodies and arms suggest
they may be repeated depictions of a
deity or ritual participants. But the
image alone is not enough to identify
them confidently. Yeah, they don't have
an answer. They just they're just
describing it.
>> You can add like the book of the caverns
too and it might tell you a little bit
more.
>> Did you send that refracted? I I'm
trying to
>> How do I get this to you, Jamie?
>> Airrop.
>> It's like a link in Canva. I have
>> I think I can airdrop a link.
>> Okay, let's try that.
Airrop.
>> So, has have you had anybody explain to
you what those headless weird looking
things?
>> No. Some Sometimes I just I I will
encounter stuff while looking for this
and it like it'll it'll pop up into my
head. And I went to I met a bunch of
people in Egypt and so I'll send it to
them and often there's not a lot of like
we have a really poor understanding of
hieroglyphs. I want to like make that
very clear. The Greeks didn't get
everything from hieroglyphs. They the
Greeks they the Egyptian priests the
ancient ancient Egyptian priests they
didn't tell the Greeks everything you
know and so we have the Rosetta Stone
that translates the phonetics of
hieroglyphs. know how they spoke hier
hieroglyphics like their their language,
but we don't know what their meanings
were. We have the best interpretation
from the Greeks of what they mean, but
that's it. Like we're not we we didn't
get this straight from the the horse's
mouth and it was what I'm saying. This
is like there was never someone that
walked a Greek guy like through the
temple like this is what this means.
This was that's not how they taught
people.
>> So we're still like kind of throwing our
darts in the dark here
>> with a lot of this stuff. And that's why
I I I take the mainstream a little bit
seriously in terms of like what the idea
is, but you also have to look at it like
they were probably looking at it and
which is not the way that we would look
at it, right? So,
let's see if I can do this.
>> So, this thing that you're sending
Jamie, what's the um
what's the significance of it? So it's
it's basically matching up like I'm I
what I like to do is show physics in my
like my videos, right, of them
accurately describing processes uh that
we understand today, but only through
our scientific method, right?
>> So that's kind of like a a I don't know
little little sledgehammer blow I like
to take to these to these things. But
>> um
>> yeah, Jamie, I can't I I don't know if I
can airdrop a link.
It's showing you're here, but
>> I can air drop a file. I'll just aird
drop you the file
because this one is
>> Bear with us, ladies and gentlemen, as
we scramble.
>> So, sorry.
>> Yeah, it just [snorts] I was looking up.
It says the perplexity is sort of saying
it's like a depiction of the underworld.
>> That's sort of what you were saying.
>> This is it's always it's always the
underworld. It's always fertility. It's
always protection. But like that's such
a broad term like they
>> and they're getting it from academic
research, but they're getting it from
whatever textbooks have been written
about it.
>> Yeah. So there's a there's a huge gap in
between our interpretation because we
kind of put a blanket over all of these
cultures and they didn't treat things
like we say that they treat these
things. And even if you go to places
that still have a really good uh
cultural anchor like Peru, they they
don't agree with what we say this thing
was, you know, they don't agree that the
Incas built the pre-Inca looking
stonework, right?
>> They they they don't claim that, but we
will say that the Inca did it. And so
that that was always a huge problem for
me uh like trying to make sense of all
this stuff is like, well, they're saying
this. Why do I believe you just because
you are at a university and this is in a
textbook I'm reading, you know,
>> right? All right. Here we go.
>> So, what are we looking at?
>> There we [sighs] go. There's a Yeah. So,
this is in that same book, The Book of
the Caverns, right? This is just a
different page of it.
>> But what you're looking at down there is
um this guy art of Clay Taylor, I use
his stuff all the time, is like just did
this amazing analysis of the So, what's
happening is there's being light. This
is how a sphere recalls.
>> Go back to the top, please.
>> It's hard to show on the screen for
everybody.
>> Can you uh shrink it?
>> Then no one can see it on the screen.
>> Oh, I see on TV.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to both.
>> Yeah. So, the the comparison basically
um you see where the the beam is going
in a perfectly straight line there.
>> Yes.
>> So, that's containing all of these uh
the deities. You can see that they are
pulling the the the end there is Kunum.
He's uh man we have to go through the
entire Egyptian pantheon to explain this
but basically what it's saying is there
there's a a energy a knowledge a wisdom
being transmitted through this this
light and when you look at it it is the
exact optical refraction of a sphere and
so that's the the solar disc is
basically the transmitter of this this
information the deity's consciousness so
how you manipulate that light is what we
see in the actual temples. And so it's
basically a tuning fork. The they use
the light as a tuning fork to get this
information or to navigate through this
underworld spiritual realm. And the
evidence of that for me is in the
perfect optical refraction of a sphere.
>> Crazy that it completely aligns.
>> No, it's it's it's dead on.
>> And there's a sphere.
>> Yeah. Sphere at the right side of the
image.
>> Okay, I'm going to blur your mind even
more here. and the spherical refraction
that you see that's mirrored down below
it. What actually happens with light in
a sphere?
>> You've seen the exact thing including
the reversal of the images top and
bottom.
So, so Jamie, if you open that last one,
I'll make this one will make sense.
>> At the tip of that image that we saw,
you know, you had that straight line
going through it. If you overlay the the
great pyramid over this spherical
refraction, it is one. We we know that
the angle of a rainbow is in the side of
the pyramid. It is in the concave part
of it because the py great pyramid's
eight-sided. There's a line that goes
right through it. That is the angle of a
double p of a double rainbow. And the
the way that the sphere refracts the
light is the exact
layout of the great pyramid. And so
where the the grand gallery goes, the
that middle part that I'm pointing the
area the or the uh yeah, I'm pointing
the arrow to, that is where right on the
tip of the of the the sphere, it breaks
the colors up into the seven colors of
the uh rainbow, right, Roy BIV.
>> Now, when you say it's an eight-sided
pyramid, how how are you saying that?
[sighs]
>> I saw a picture of it. Yeah,
it's it greatly complicates the
construction process being eight-sided
as well. So, it's you only see it on the
equinox. I believe it's a shadow of
Yeah. So,
>> so like they're counting that as two
sides cuz it's
>> it's it's dented in on the flat sides a
little bit.
>> It's got a concavity, but you can only
see it certain times a year.
>> So, it looks like it's four-sided, but
each So, okay. So, do you think that
when it was covered in limestone that
was more prevalent?
>> No, I I think they probably smoothed it
out. I think it's a more of a functional
aspect of it because when you when you
actually when you look at the tuning of
the pyramids, they they kind of
>> they they resonate
at the Schuman cavity resonances. And
so, I think this was a deliberate
focusing of those radio frequencies down
into the electromagnetic spectrum.
>> Go back to those images that you were
just showing, please.
>> Which ones?
>> The ones you just had on screen.
>> The pyramid one.
>> Go back. Make it larger. I mean,
[snorts] uh, scroll back. Scroll back so
I can see the rest of the left side of
the screen. So, this that right there.
So, the Great Pyramid is not
eight-sided. What is that?
>> I mean, this is a thumbnail from
YouTube. I don't
>> I mean, they could go down and watch
this video and see what
>> Or is it? It says Oh, or is it?
>> So, you can see it when you go there.
You'll see a small uh weird spot in the
middle of the Great Pyramid that looks
like there's something there, but you
only see it really from above on certain
times of the year.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. And what do you think this
function was?
>> So when you manipulate the shape of a
tetrahedrin or a pyramid, what it does
is it adjusts the focus internally. So
it'll adjust the shape of the it's it's
there's a quantum process for it, but it
adjusts the the basically the output of
what the what the shape is doing. So, if
it's uh we're we're tapping into like a
radio wave frequency band in terms of
how big the Great Pyramid is, but
there's there was a study in 2018 that
showed that it can convert radio waves
into electromagnetic energy into the
ground. And it's doing this passively.
It's not like a It's not like Chris
Dunn's idea right now. You know, maybe
it was at some point, but um what it
actually does is it interacts with the
electromagnetic spectrum and the radio
frequencies that are that are bouncing
around the the Schuman cavity, which is
where we exist in, right? And so what I
think was happening is internally
there's these chambers and these
specific little nodes that were like
filters like band pass filters or or
you know taking a a bigger wave that's
passing through this and creating
something inside of it that kind of
slips through and that can utilize the
frequencies that are that are passing
through it. So to me they're like more
of a sync than they were like a
transmitter. I think a lot of people
think they were a transmitter. I think
they were they were sinking the this
flow of energy into the ground. Yeah. So
those bands there are the radio
frequency bands and they tested this. I
think it was 2018.
>> Yeah, 2018.
>> And so how do they how do they think
this is happening?
>> So I think they did a little I think
they did a model of it there. I'm not
100% sure on the normally second
I think I think they made a model of it
and they tested it in a in a closed
environment but um
I I don't think they actually got out
there with the you know some sort of
device that read the signal in the
ground but what the what they're saying
basically is the geometry does that the
geometry focuses the the energy it's an
it's an alchemical process you're taking
a bigger wave and you're down down
converting it into a smaller wave
And so that that can interact with the
environment as well. So if you change
the soil conductivity or the electrical
gradients that are moving through the
crust of the earth, then that affects
plant growth, that affects germination
rates, that affects a whole bunch of
things. It affects how how lively an
ecosystem is is directly related to soil
conductivity. And so at at minimum it
was interacting in that way. So at
maximum they were probably routing it in
other ways too.
>> Like what first of all
>> how did they learn this
>> first of all and second of all what are
they doing with it? So this is the
importance of of this is why I think
it's infrastructure because I think that
um you know if we if we're talking about
these planetary cycles and stuff like
that the the civilization that was
before the dynastic Egyptians the ones
that built the infrastructure like
Osiran Osiris shaft and pyramids they
probably had to do some environmental
modification to make civilization work
in certain areas. I think maybe the
earth went through something quite
serious before the younger dus even and
this was kind of a recovery system for
that. And when you look at the work of
uh you know Gerald Pollock does like
easy water like structured water.
>> Oh okay.
>> Yeah. He does he does because that's
what your body uses. Your body is is
water but it's structured water. It's a
liquid crystal and it that that's
because it can carry nutrients and
electricity and basically all you need
for life is in structured water and
every temple was interacting with this
structured water or at least a body of
water or an intersection between the two
and and Randall talks about this in
endlessly too but so there's this
geometric interface between the
ionosphere and the toertic currents or
ground currents that control soil
conductivity right so if I put a
geometric interface between the two,
then I can shape that. And then if I
shape it even more with an underground
network of pipes and systems that are
distributing this out to the
environment, like we see at Ankorwatt
and at Dasher in Egypt, then this starts
to become an ecological
machine essentially that's that has no
moving parts but is interacting with the
environment in a way that like I the
best thing I can say is is terraforming.
you know they were they were
terraforming or creating a local ecology
that could sustain life where they
wanted to live in the most productive
parts of the world I guess.
>> So [snorts] with this geometric pattern
so with the pyramid itself what do you
think the structure underneath it is? Do
you have a theory like what the purpose
of it was? If they are the the shape
that Filippo is saying that they are,
you know, if they are accurately that
big and that large, then those to me
sound they look like tuning forks. They
look like there's some sort of resonant
cavities in a way that if it's if we're
focusing that that energy from from uh
you know the atmosphere down into the
ground
>> then the the shape of it you're
essentially looking at the top of an
obelisk and we know what the obelisks
look like and we know the obelisk ring
>> and so all of these these um these
things are lining up. So, so the the
Great Pyramid itself, the main thing is
made of of limestone, right? And then
you have the King's Chamber that's made
of of rose granite that was transported
from 500 [ __ ] miles away,
>> but the mountains [laughter]
>> 80 tons.
>> Yeah, no big deal. U but the rose
granite's interesting. The rose granite
has is is high in quartz, so it's pzo
electric and then it is also
ferromagnetic. That's why it's rose.
There's a lot of iron in it. So if it is
taking if the great pyramid is taking
the in these these radio waves and then
essentially focusing them into
electromagnetic energy that energy is
passing through the king's chamber which
would interact with that in a way that
would m basically tune that energy like
the spontaneous synchronization of the
consciousness we were talking about
earlier. Same concept but going into the
ground. So, if we're taking this and
we're tuning that energy going into the
ground that our plants and our our
light, our uh humans can work with, then
we have a system of cultivating this
garden of Eden essentially in any area
that we want. You can if you can bring
these little devices and you can put a
node here and a node here, a node here,
node here, then you create this vast
network of a very livable environment.
And when they don't work, then you have
a very aid environment that is
unlivable, which is what they what we
see in Egypt now. And so
>> so you think it was geoengineering?
>> I think it was No, I think it was you
can't say our phones are just phones,
right?
>> Our phones do way more than that,
>> right?
>> I think their main purpose was
stabilizing the local local ecology and
the environment of these places. I think
that was a main purpose. A secondary
purpose was learning and teaching humans
how to use this energy in other ways
that benefited life in general. So
organizing society in in a in a proper
you know civilization would be very
important. Uh engineering things to
withstand earthquakes and environmental
disasters would be very important.
Hydrarology would be very important. All
of these things seem to be uh a part of
that system as well where once you have
this uh the batteries connected to my
phone, my phone's working, right? But
then I have to download the apps to do
other stuff with it. The apps are
essentially what the humans are doing.
The apps become the human. You get to
you you go into this place and it's it's
providing you with your with your uh
your environment you can live. And then
you go into the temples and it's
basically your university where you
download your your information and then
you create your civilization after that.
It'd be a way of of boxing up a
civilization and basically white
labeling it so you could do it somewhere
else and using the local
uh creatures that evolved there
naturally, which would fit in perfectly
with what we see, right? If if Earth
evolved primates naturally and then they
get modified to accept these signals by
these people, these beings that came
here or that hadn't been here already,
then all you'd have to do is really find
another creature that's capable of
speaking. And then you have your your
template and then that template spliced
with your genetics and connected with
the system becomes a way of living on
any world that you choose. [snorts]
>> Oh, okay. So you think that this was so
in this ability that these things have
to control the environment and make it
more hospitable, do you think this has
an ability to affect weather? Do you
think they're doing that? Do you think
they're making more plant growth? What
What do you think they're doing with
this?
>> Both. So we have to separate these out
into certain um I I I'll separate into
three main categories here. So we have
the Americas which was like the
biologist biologist they were the lab of
uh that worked with the plants they were
there you we see this in all of their
sacred sites right uh they were
acclimatizing crops they were living in
Machu Picchu where they could grow food
up on top of mountains they would they
were still close to sea level where they
could manipulate that whole environment
too. they were masters of of working
with this like the entire Amazon is was
is pretty much engineered by humans. So
that that to me is is um like going to
school for biology or agriculture. And
then you have Europe, the European um
area, Grecomor Roman stuff, which is
ordering society and making sure that
that resources are distributed properly
and and humans can
regardless of how you think about that.
Uh the Romans were the most successful
empire builders of all time and they
they did that by absorbing uh different
belief systems. So they were kind of
transmuting the the different thoughts
of the people around them and in their
empire to work for the the greater good
I guess. And then you have Egypt which
is consciousness like all conscious
based and and what all their hieroglyphs
and stuff. They were kind of the people
that were like okay this is how you make
a connection with these natural patterns
of nature that we call they called nets
the neater nets. Um but that's where we
get our name for nature. The neters were
these patterns of uh you know nature
consciousness and things like that. And
you could essentially tap into those and
gain insight, wisdom and nosis through
that. And then you have the Hindu and
the Pacific Islands over here which if
you look at all of their stuff, they
were working with the water. They were
prepping the water. They were cleaning
the water. They were doing all this
stuff to water. You have Hindu
stepwells. Every one of them has a Shiva
that you pour water on to you know as as
their ritual which purifies and and
makes the water sacred. And then you get
into the Pacific islands, you have
places like um Ankor Watt, which is the
most hydraological
hydraologically advanced system that
we've ever seen in the ancient world.
And we still don't know if it's it's its
true scale, right? And so I like I like
using anchor watt because it's kind of a
good example of what this ancient system
was where they all have a piece of of
the same,
I guess, theory. They all have the
technology, but they have
specializations for implementing it into
reality. And so with that, you have your
your population evolves in terms of
intellect and ability and controlling
the environment and survivability. And
so you have a school essentially a a
human school of teaching humans how to
cultivate this this living thing on this
planet, which is the planet itself. It's
basically awakening the planet to
intelligence, whether that's plant life,
human intelligence. Whatever works with
this type of energy, that was the system
for implementing it is the is the temple
system. And so the evidence in that for
for my line of research would be okay,
we have clear examples of our tech doing
this and this is what it does and this
stuff one, yeah, this looks like this,
whatever, but we're working with
different scales. If you're looking at
the layout of these temples, we're
working with the electromagnetic
spectrum in our phones and they are
working in the acoustic spectrum with
the temples. They're all tuned to crazy
resonances everywhere. And they're not
their notation for that was flowers
essentially. And the flowers match up
with simatic patterns. And so these are
essentially the keys to working with the
with the different temple frequencies
inside of it. So you're you're an
operator. You're like driving this thing
essentially of of what it can do. Jesus
Christ. How the hell [snorts] did they
learn this?
>> Your guess is as good as mine.
[laughter] I'm just I'm just trying I'm
just trying to DJ the stuff and figure
out this knowledge.
>> Well, it's a fascinating perspective,
but it also makes you think like what
are we really talking about? What does
this civilization look like? What does
this pre-existing civilization look
like? What is the earliest versions of
it? Well, there's there's a lot of
interesting and and this stuff is kind
of on the fringes, but like let's say
that, you know, the the Martian world
was the our original home and it got
unlivable. Something happened to it.
There's huge scars on Mars. Like,
something horrible could have happened
to that place.
So, let's say they had that much time to
to evolve as a civilization like on
another planet. And we're trying to
figure out how to terraform Mars right
now. Elon's doing that. So this back and
forth like okay we need to have a backup
world isn't a foreign concept. It's not
it's not something that would be wildly
out there to suggest that we we should
probably find a way of of living on
another world right now. Let's
extrapolate that. Say your whole solar
system's dying or say say you need a uh
you know you're you're trying to
colonize another world because yours is
too full of people. Well if you have the
system already that's not a problem. You
don't you don't even have to to move
things physically. It's it's a it's an
interconnected system that works with
the local the local environment and the
local star that it's in and it's
connected to all these other stars and
they they've somehow figured out this
network that without moving bodies
physical bodies you could transfer
consciousness. We see that in mummies.
So if they can do that then a star
system in Orion or the Pletes or
wherever that where these these things
are aligned to essentially has a
communication base like a router in in
this system you know so you you say like
oh how long would it take to do that but
we're we're talking about earth time
scales. What if that's not even a
factor? What if what if they had
billions of years of evolution and they
just use Earth as a way post or a
seedbank or somewhere to store their
information so that let's say something
does happen on a on a planet in Orion.
They can come back to Earth, retrieve
some genetics from corn and go to
another planet and plant corn and they
can have corn over there. You know, like
that that to me seems seems more
reasonable than saying, uh, these these
things just popped out of nowhere and
they're just amazingly sophisticated and
they don't have any any connection with
anything else. They just popped up and
this is this you should believe this
story, you know.
>> Not only that, but it's the oldest stuff
that we can find.
>> Yeah.
>> The oldest stuff that we can find is the
most perplexing.
>> Well, the Peru Peru example, Jay
Anderson, I think you had him on, right?
Jay Anderson. Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, he just released uh his his
series. I think it's called Ancient
Technologies. And he was he went through
Alante Tombbo and was showing how how
scattered and stuff that stuff was. Like
the megalithic blocks are just thrown
everywhere.
>> And then the the the low tech stone
stacking mortar stuff is right on top of
it. Right. All right.
>> So, if if that story is correct, if that
if if the original history of this stuff
is correct, uh what we're being told at
least, then the the crappier work would
have had to survive something that threw
a megalithic block off a mountain. If
the Inca built all of this, then the
crappier work on top is dated to the
same they're throwing it into the same
date range, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Something that threw a megalithic block
off a mountain didn't touch the the
crappy brick work that was on top of it.
[snorts and laughter]
No, it doesn't make any sense. Well, it
also there's also evidence in all these
cultures like when particularly Lebanon
and all the all these different places
that there seems to be this habit that
people have of building on top of far
older stuff and it exists everywhere
>> and we just we need to assume that
that's the case I think because it seems
to be the case everywhere. when they
find something incredibly complex and
ancient, they built on top of that area.
And then there's so much evidence of
these cultures that find pre-existing
structures.
>> This is the Aztecs. Like, we don't
really know who built these Aztec
pyramids, which is really weird. I
thought my whole life the Aztecs built
the Aztec pyramids. Yeah. Duh. Right.
And then you find out, oh, no, they
don't even say they did it. They called
it the place where the gods were born.
Yeah.
>> And so that stuff existed at least a
thousand years before they were there.
>> And that that just doesn't it doesn't
fit with the level of sophistication
that this that the the story itself
comes with. the cultures come with this
really sophisticated and what seems like
encoded language in terms we we say it's
like their legends but if you look at
even stuff like the Quran or the Bible
there's stuff hidden in there
numerically and in in the the legends
themselves that can be uh extracted from
it that were that seem to be intentional
that happens all over the ancient world.
All of their stuff seems to be like
that, which is which is the weirdest
thing to me because if you know all of
this I if if that theory is correct and
they were, you know, terraforming or at
least connecting on a like conscious
internet level type of a thing, the only
way you could really transmit that and
they did this is like having a really
good legend to orally transmit and that
you could, you know, make songs out of
and stuff like that.
But once it's down on on uh you know in
a language in like Sanskrit or or
hieroglyphics or whatever uh once it's
down in a language then you have the
inability to really look at it
objectively because the guy that can
read Sanskrit says this means this and
you can't read Sanskrit. So you're like
obviously this means this. But what
doesn't lie is the geometry. And that's
what what I'm focusing on mostly is
showing that this geometry has a
function and we use it every day in our
devices. And if we scale that up, then
we're just working with different levels
of vibration in terms of, you know,
seismic waves going through the earth.
And that is the equivalent essentially
of what our phones are doing with the
electromagnetic spectrum.
>> So their interaction geometrically with
the natural,
you know, humming of the earth and the
natural processes of the earth
>> and also of space.
>> And of space. Yeah. The natural bridge
between that is the actual connection.
That's what that that is what they say
in in the ancient text. If I if I'm
translating it, that's how I read it is
they're saying to connect to the earth
here, you have to build this temple
here. Essentially building putting a
processor, our processor on this spot.
And to connect to the energy that that
processor needs to run, then you have to
align it to this star when the sun rises
on this day. And to calculate that, you
need to know the cardinal directions.
And that's why they're all cardially
aligned. So, you have these different
clues in archoastronomy as well that are
kind of validating the the theories. And
what most people would write off is the
stuff that I'm I'm like looking directly
at like that that the legendary stuff
that seems too too crazy to be real.
Well, that's probably just the best
vocab they had to describe the process.
We we
>> we have the ability to use English,
which is a very high-tech language. it
absorbs all other languages and we have
ways of making new words and it evolves
over time.
Their systems really didn't, you know,
so they had this they had one thing like
hieroglyphs had usually had like seven
meanings per hieroglyph. So you had to
like find which one in context of the
hieroglyph it was whereas ours is hyper
specific. So our language being used to
translate this stuff is inherently
going to be muddy because their concepts
were much larger. A picture is worth a
thousand words. That's what the
hieroglyphs were. And now we have to
take the hieroglyphs and make it into a
thousand words because that's that's our
way of understanding it.
>> That's a really good way of putting it
that this and we know this is the case
where things are lost in translation.
>> Yeah.
>> It's very complicated when you're just
going from Russian to English or, you
know, we've seen that in scam letters
when people go from foreign languages
and they try to talk like pretend like
they're speaking English as a native
language and they [ __ ] things up. like,
"Hey, you're not really [laughter] from
Kansas." Hey, John.
>> That's why I'm actually from Kansas.
>> It completely makes sense. It completely
makes sense that especially when you
deal with other ancient languages like
we know this about ancient uh Hebrew,
right? That ancient Hebrew letters
doubled as numbers, which is really
weird. Yeah. So, imagine val there was
like numerical value in words.
>> That's extra.
>> Check this out. Okay. So like ancient
Mayan uh glyphs for example,
>> they are based uh like almost solely on
cycles fits directly in with this
genetic engineering um like biological
engineering framework that they use.
Right? The the Egyptian language is more
closely related to engineering diagrams
than it is uh an actual language. they
can be read some of them can be read
almost like um like you're looking at a
part diagram and there's different views
of the part you know
>> and then the the
Hindu language is based like flow water
type of a it's it eventually evolves
into Buddhism right which is basically
harmonizing the flow of of your reality
so each one of these languages evolves
into its its function
in this world, right? So, we kind of
have to like we have to look at it from
that perspective as well instead of
instead of blanketing all of this as
this was a ritual or like this was for
protection or this was for fertility.
Well, yeah, it is. But that has such a
huge has a different impact on whatever
function that you're using it for. So
that's that's their manual essentially
is is their um style of how they're
communicating this stuff and what it
what that looks like in the environment
itself. [snorts]
>> And that's the crazy the crazy thing
about the hieroglyphs that this emerged
>> Yeah.
>> out of nowhere.
>> And we don't have like early
hieroglyphs. We don't have a ver a crude
version of it.
There's there's not even a you would
think that like you have a you have a
starting symbol like X marks a spot or
whatever like this means um I'm the king
of something and then you just grow that
into a vocabulary like most of these
emerge having a fully sophisticated
vocabulary of concepts that right now we
are still trying to understand that's
how sophisticated they were they don't
make sense to us because it seems like
they if we're looking at it from a
primitive lens how could they be talking
about some quantum some physics here or
or optics.
>> You know, one of the weird things about
these kids, these telepathy cape tape
kids, is some of them could read
hieroglyphs
>> like off the rift like no.
>> Yeah. No education.
>> So, this would this would mean they
probably downloaded that information
somehow
>> from the hill.
>> From the hill,
>> right?
>> And the and the primordial mound is in
every culture.
>> That's the description on it was that
like there's a teacher there that
teaches it to them. They don't know
>> on the hill. Yeah. They want to know it.
There's like a I don't know if it's a
guy or a being or what it would be, but
yeah, like the the the teacher of
hieroglyphs explains it to them.
[snorts]
>> Do they describe the teacher at all?
>> So I [clears throat]
the descriptions through telepathy tapes
is now you're getting it from a kid that
doesn't talk. So it's a very hard
translation, but
>> oh man,
>> it's you sort of do.
>> This the question is like is it does it
benefit the kid that it can't talk
right? It's not communicating. So, it's
able to it doesn't have these it's
probably doesn't even have the same
sense of self that we do.
>> Or is it routing that that like the
energy of consciousness in the parts of
the brain that would normally light up
for the stuff that lights us up? Is it
being rerouted into something else,
>> right? Or are they just not in their own
way because they don't speak verbally
because right they're not they're
they're not attaching anything to it. It
just comes to them and they don't have
to process through the the filter of
culture.
>> Do you know Do you know who Matias
Dephano is?
>> No.
>> So he's a he says he can remember his
past lives.
>> Yeah. I went to Egypt with him and he's
>> Yeah. He uh he
>> I bet that dude's fun at a party.
>> Oh, dude. No. Like a lot of my work is
kind of like trying to decipher what the
hell he just said because it makes sense
to me. And I got to like put some
science to this because I'm like
obviously that's right. But he's like he
said that the um the main method of
communicating in this way was
non-verbal. Is their whole society it
was basically engulfed in this field of
all of this knowledge and all you had to
do is really tap into where you what
part of the field that you wanted to
know this knowledge. He he calls it a
spiderweb. Sometimes he'll do this thing
where he's like navigating through this
spiderweb thing and there's like nodes
of knowledge and these guys could all
navigate through this this node of
knowledge that was being held in a
basically you're inside this this giant
supercomput of of and a database that is
>> is this like the concept of the aashic
records?
>> Yes. Yeah. That's so same concept,
different cultures and different ways of
accessing it. And he said that the
vibration
did something with the water. It aligned
the water in a your structured water in
a quantum way to where you could get to
the location of this information or
experience or memory or whatever. That's
why water was so important to humans is
because that was the interface layer of
the past and the future. And that's how
they were able to predict things in the
future because they could just go to a
different node. And if they went to this
node and said, "Okay, the civilization
is going to collapse in uh, you know,
100 BC. But if we do this, then we could
survive and everything's still going to,
you know, the the cycles are still going
to happen. But if you put this temple
right here, then people are going to dig
it up and then it's going to restart
civilization." So this is why they were
able to mobilize their people because
they all had that shared vision of this
thing happening and they could all
access it because they were bathed in
this field of information that they were
building with this this temple network.
>> One of the [ __ ] weirdest things in
all the hieroglyphs is these this
Stargate thing.
>> Mhm.
>> Like that that is so strange.
>> Literally means Stargate.
>> Literally means Stargate. So like
>> our tour guide was uh Muhammad Ibrahim.
Awesome. And he's kind of the one that
that has pushed the the the boundaries
of reading this stuff because when you
go to Edfu, the building texts of Edfu
are um so building texts are on the
walls of the temple, right? The building
texts of Edfu are actually the first
records of Atlantis that we have. That's
not Plato. The the story of of Atlantis
is on Edfu and you can see it
everywhere. There's there's boats coming
in with the with the gods. They're
carrying him in. And he walks through
the entire outer outer wall of the
temple and it'll show you all. And
>> where is this?
>> Edfu. It's in Egypt. Yeah.
>> And so how old is this depiction of
Atlantis? [snorts]
>> I I don't know what exactly their date
is, but I'm pretty sure if if Solon got
it from the It probably lines up
exactly.
>> Is this online? Can we look at that?
>> Go Edfu building text and you'll see all
kinds of boats and all the
>> So that's the oldest depiction of
Atlantis.
>> Yeah. I I don't know why people
attribute it to to Plato. That's the
first written description that we have
is Plato, but Edfu is the legend of
Atlantis. That's
>> Does it have concentric circles? Is the
whole the diagram of
>> They don't have that, but it has a lot
of the um the the plasma technology
stuff that I was talking about. You
know, it has like plasma hieroglyphs
everywhere. Yeah. What? No, it has a
legitimate I I went to Egypt to try and
find this hieroglyph cuz I was like,
it's got to be somewhere. You know, it
was everywhere, dude. And like every
temple I went to.
>> Is this it?
>> That's Dendara.
>> Who's those dudes with the wings? What
do they represent? That's [ __ ] weird.
>> So that's your um Yeah. So the CA is the
hands up and the ba the ba is the
spiritual body and that's the the bird.
So there's three aspects in Egyptian
conscious cosmology where it's the my
cabba, the light, this spiritual light
body. The myrrh means the light, the ba
is the body that can fly through it. And
then the CA is the your
essentially like your human part of it.
[snorts]
>> So what do we what are we looking at?
>> Google Edu building text.
>> No, this is I'm in Edu Atlantis, Egypt.
Edu.
>> Okay, that one right there. If you click
Oh, that's kind of a
>> Edfu building text.
>> Edfu. Yeah. No, yeah, Edfu building
text. Google that
>> building text.
>> Yeah,
they're probably not gonna Well, that
one that one's a really good one right
there. But these are all over the place.
The second one to your right. Yep. So
this the images of them coming across
the ocean to Egypt are all over this.
Like if you look right above that little
thing that's cut where the picture's cut
off, the whole wall is them basically is
showing their journey from another land
to Egypt.
>> And look how their heads have been
removed.
>> Yeah.
>> It's like they've been defaced.
>> Almost everything there you'll see that
has has been scratched. The faces have
been knocked off. All of the old c old
old old stuff has been knocked off
>> cuz they're like that wasn't him. It was
me. [laughter]
>> It was me, bro.
>> He's just been conquered like 30 times.
So
>> yeah, it's strange how they did that.
Like just nuked all those guys off the
record. [ __ ] him.
>> At that top right there, it'll show the
them showing how to like grow plant grow
new plants. It's the the big gods to the
right and the little humans to the left.
They're showing the humans how to
agriculture and stuff.
>> Yeah. [laughter]
Um,
Jessie Michaels posted a new podcast
with this guy talking about how the
pyramids Jeffrey German.
>> Oh yeah. Have you had you heard of
Jeffrey?
>> I've heard of him. Yeah. Land of Chem.
>> Oh, dude. His stuff is good. His
>> Go back up, please. It says, uh, new
theory suggests the Egyptian pyramids
were industrial chemical manufacturing
plants intended to produce the products
necessary for agriculture and metal
working. The acid residue is still in
the walls of the Great Pyramid. Jeffrey
Drum L uh land of Chem is an independent
researcher who has spent nine years
building the case that the pyramids made
fertilizer and industrial acids powered
by the earth's own electrical charge.
And the chemistry backs him up. Samples
taken from inside the Great Pyramid of
the 1970s found a crust of calcium
sulfate up to an inch thick on the walls
of the Queen's Chamber. And the calc and
calcium sulfate is exactly what dilute
sulfuric acid leaves behind when it
meets limestone. A PhD chemist Brian
Cohen has independently concluded the
Great Pyramid produced sulfuric acid.
Each pyramid made a different chemical
from methane extracted beneath the step
pyramid to hydrochloric acid in the
pyramid of Cafrey. The red pyramid made
ammonia and the smell is still there,
strongest in the deepest chamber and
fading towards the entrance. The usual
explanation is bats, but Drum says the
analysis of the staining on its walls
found metal oxides included including
thorium and nothing a bat colony leaves
behind.
>> Whoa. The whole plateau is wired. Iron
veins run through the bedrock from
beneath the pyramid out across Giza and
Drum has mapped them. Analysis found
precious metals and rare earths along
the length along their length. One
sample at 35% platinum. The long stone
pits beside the Great Pyramid assumed to
have held ceremonial boats are in his
reading circuit breakers in that
network.
>> Okay. So, his his stuff is you got to
dive into is really good. His stuff fits
exactly with this this model that I'm
telling you about. Like the the
connection of these nodes and where the
chambers are and stuff are tuning into
different types of energy, different
frequencies essentially. And the whole
basis for this alchemical process I was
telling you about with like the that
goes into the stone and makes the stones
ring and all this stuff that's a tuning
mechanism to tune the rocks to do a
certain thing. And how they achieve this
is through ultrasonic cavitation. It's
like sonoluminescence that video I've
shown you where flashes.
>> So when it does that you have a release
of energy that could be harvested for
other things. And then you have a
chemical reaction that is very likely
used for what he was saying is and that
would be the mechanism for terraforming
is creating these these
elements that are needed to grow. That's
what we fertilize our our plants with is
is these basic things. So, so the
process is building a geometric
interface between the natural energies
that are already here and already tuned
for this planet and then you have the
the non-moving parts mechanism for this
whole thing which is the beauty of it
all is the cavitation aspect of it and
if you if you look at uh so like ankor
watt and the step pyramid of dasher they
have these really deep wells are the
best examples I can come up with for
this but these very deep wells would tap
into the aquifers that were underneath
them. And so when you tap into a certain
frequency, let's say it's uh, you know,
in the ultrasonic range, very specific
ultrasonic frequency will create a very
specific element. And these chambers
seem are obviously tuned acoustically.
And the the wells below them, they look
like they're tuned acoustically as well.
So we have this filter. We have a
pyramid that's filtering out and then we
have a chamber that's isolating a
certain frequency and amplifying that
certain frequency into the ground. And
then when that frequency interacts with
the well, the ultrasonic cavitation goes
in there, cleans the water because when
you have cavitation, you have this this
uh basically it boils the water. It's
how you you would heat water. There's a
guy that made a uh little device that
you could stick in a uh cup and you just
pumped it with air and it would boil the
water and it was doing the exact same
thing. And so you have this method of
cleaning the water and creating the
elements that you need for for
fertilization or industrial processes or
anything that we see that they had. And
you would distribute that out into your
network which is the entire Giza plateau
is filled with these giant shafts that
look like they held liquid or that they
were containers of something. And then
you have the sacred lakes that were the
purified water byproduct of what
happened on these sites. And that sacred
water was used for the humans. So the
purified structure water was used for
your rituals and your your um conscious
activities as the human whereas the the
the stuff that Jeffreey's talking about
was used for the plant life and to
fertilize plants. So you're getting all
you need out of this one device and then
the bigger the device grows the bigger
the the system gets in Egypt or India or
America then the bigger populations that
you can support. And we're now seeing
that India, Egypt, and America all had
populations that were vastly larger than
we expected because of this process in
my opinion. And so they knew how to work
with it. They knew how to use it. And
then they basically built it out on
scale like what we do with our our
devices.
>> And the question is how the hell did
they learn that?
>> That's the question.
>> That's the big one. The big one is do we
take them seriously?
>> I think we're
>> do we take their legend seriously? We're
more we're we more understand the
process of what they were doing than
where they got it, which is wild,
>> right? [laughter] We're getting closer
to that than where we got it,
>> right? Like how how how who where how
long,
>> right? Why
>> why is the qu like
>> but we were we're assuming that people
beyond that period were simply hunter
gatherers with stone tools. They they
probably were like they probably were
concurrent civilization that were doing
that
>> like they are right now
>> like they are right now. And then and
then you know when they say like you
know Nephilim or whoever bred with the
humans they probably were probably
taking some some of the best stock of
them and being like you guys are going
to be us now. And then they they get
into this cycle of of conscious you know
transfer and then you have civilizations
that last for 5,000 years.
>> What the [ __ ] [snorts]
And you have Stargates.
>> And then you have Stargates. Yeah. Well,
that would make a lot of sense. Like the
whole, you know, the the gate
phenomenon, the doorways to nowhere
phenomenon. You see them in Peru.
They're in Saudi Arabia. Like Hegra and
Saudi Arabia. You know what that is?
>> I've heard the word. I don't know what
it is.
>> J pull up Hegra. That this stuff.
>> So a a key component of this system is
that the information is transferred in
the rock itself. Tesla proved that this
was possible that you could you could
transfer energy and information through
through the stone substrate of the
earth. Right.
>> So if you can Yeah. If you can do this,
you basically all you need to do is
create gates in the rock and you can
remote view like a hologram any place on
Earth. You just go through and then you
have this geometric gate that you
recognize because it's the geometry that
that every culture is using. And then
you basically pop out of a rock in in
your spirit form. That's what the
Egyptians said, the merkaba could travel
through these things. [laughter] So So
then you have the Yeah. You have stuff
in the middle of of deserts that
>> And what's the conventional explanation
for these things?
>> Tombs.
>> Tombs. Hell of a [ __ ] tomb.
>> Yeah.
>> Must be a dope dude that died.
>> Look at that thing.
>> But you see this this same phenomena.
>> But hold on before we go there. Is this
in the middle of nowhere?
>> Uh it's in the middle of Saudi Arabian
desert. Yeah. Go go go go go down to
that cat on the bottom that's standing
there. Look at him. He's like, "Hey,
check it out. [laughter]
>> This is my home."
>> I wonder what that means to them. I
wonder what they think it is.
>> I genuinely I talked to a lot of uh
Egyptians when I was in Egypt. I don't
think they're very aware of a lot of
this stuff. I think they're quite
disconnected from
>> So there was something that happened
that wiped these people out.
>> Yeah.
And do you think that this aligns with
the younger dus impact?
>> I think that these probably are post
that
>> post that
>> just because there's they're really
they're they're really crispy
>> crispy in terms of lack of erosion.
>> Yeah. [sighs and gasps] Yeah. Like and
they're in the middle of nowhere. You'd
expect to see a lot of wind water
erosion on this thing. Clearly water
erosion here. So water there now.
>> Water.
>> Yeah. On the bottom there
>> like it would have like it's dry now
like Venice, you know.
They're all elevated like these are
docks. Like I'm thinking of Lake Travis
when it's empty, you know.
>> And look at the discoloration on the
bottom part versus the top part
indicates that the top part was exposed
and the bottom part was probably
underwater. And you see this water line
across Wadi Rum and Petra
>> and Saudi Arabia and Egypt. There's like
a huge
>> right
>> discrepancy on um you know Sphinx shows
it.
>> Sure. It's huge discrepancy and that's
like kind of a indicator in my opinion
of what things were and where they were
in that timeline.
>> And we're super aware that like
especially when it comes to subsaharan
Africa when they find these whale
skeletons like
>> the the giant ones that are still there.
>> Yeah. Insane.
>> Um
>> so this what do you think that was
though?
>> I think those are like the the transit
stations.
>> Yeah. I I I genuinely like maybe not for
physical bodies. I don't know if that's
like I I can't come up with a mechanism
that makes that work where you
deconstruct your matter. But if you if
the the Egyptians could clearly travel
with consciousness, they they show that
in their their hieroglyphs and the
Hindus speak of it as well. And um so if
you could do that I think I feel like
those were more of um let's say you go
to a deep meditative state you're you're
aligned in your temple and you have you
know this maybe possibly psychedelics or
some other thing amplifying the
connectivity in your brain and and
giving it abilities that it doesn't
normally have to connect with another
thing about the psychedelic experience
is you feel connected with everything
all at once. Right.
>> Right. So if you're if you can enhance
that feeling and be connected with your
whole environment, then navigating that
environment would require merging with
it, but then emerging somewhere wi with
a pattern you recognize. And that
pattern is why you see the these
doorways carved in there because in in
the nonphysical
conscious state that they talk about,
the only thing you really kind of kind
of decipher is geometry, right? Well, on
psychedelics, you see a lot of, you
know, Taurus shapes and fractals and
stuff like that. But in this world, if
you're tuned in with that and you're
traveling kind of consciously through
the the the rock substrate, then finding
the gateways to exit would be the the
goal essentially. And that's why you see
these doorways carved in the middle of
nowhere in Peru. And the same thing in
Saudi Arabia is, in my opinion, that's
how they talk to each other. They're
like,
>> "Yo, this is uh this is happening over
in in Peru. [laughter]
Send help
>> somehow or another." Well, that's also
one of the weirder things about these
temples uh particularly some of these
temples that exist in India where they
have this incredible harmonic frequency
inside of them when they're chanting.
And you have to think this is by design
and what is the purpose of that and is
it to achieve a certain state of
consciousness and what kind of
consciousness can be achieved
particularly imagine you're on
psychedelics.
>> So one of the things about psychedelics
is um do you know what ikaros are? Have
you heard of those? Ikaros are these
songs that they sing um when you are
under the the spell of DMT
>> and um they do it with uh these iawaska
rituals, but I've I've had it done. I've
experienced it where you play the songs
on DMT and it makes the DMT dance like
in this very strange syn it synchronizes
with the music the experience instead of
being like completely chaotic and
random. It synchronizes like directly
and like the the patterns dance with the
music. They work together in some very
very strange way. Now, you got to
imagine that if that's the case, that
would also be the case with chanting.
That would also be the case with if they
had songs, if they had something they
could do, there was some some dance they
could do with sound while they were
inside these incredibly resonant
chambers where like the one that I sent
you on Instagram,
>> Betsy Caves. Betsy Caves.
>> Yeah. I'll send this to Jamie because
this is crazy. When when you hear how
this guy is chanting inside of it and
you you hear the sound that it's making
while he's doing that, you're like,
what? Why would you do that? Like what
what is involved in this [ __ ] thing?
Like
>> it's a specific frequency, too. Like the
it resonates at a fundamental on each
one of these things.
>> One of the
>> um I don't know. Let me hear this,
Jamie.
But this is outside. Uh I'm sending you
something. I just sent it to you.
>> Is it that?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, that's it. That's it. And this is
from what's this gentleman's name?
>> Liam Richards.
>> Liam Richards. Freaking crazy. This is
Take a look at this. It is freaking
crazy. This is called a chhatya. It's a
chanting hole. Its whole purpose is for
chanting. It is like nothing I've ever
seen.
Listen to the acoustics in here. So the
Buddhist monks, they would come in here
and they would meditate or chant. that
would perform meditation in here.
Walking around the stupa
and chants like
[ __ ] [laughter]
it lasts so long.
>> Can you hear that? It reverberates
for like 15 or 20 seconds. And this
seems like this is all carved out of
stone.
>> Yeah.
>> Not built, but carved out of the stone.
>> You can't you can't make one mistake in
it. And and that's the thing with these
this stuff too is um these things are
tuned all of them. The Egyptian
chambers, the Hindu chambers in
cathedrals especially, they're all tuned
to a specific resonance. And that
resonance is what you'll usually find
carved into the floral patterns on the
wall. So these resonances were kind of
the key to go to these either places of
information or possibly even locations
like what we were just talking about is
like maybe Hegra had a location that
looked like a five-ointed star and then
maybe the temples in Egypt had one that
looked like an eight-ointed star or
something like a flower, you know? And
so if you know that, if you know the the
resting resonance, then that drives your
conscious experience like what you're
saying on on these in these altered
states. And it's also why psychedelics
are so popular in music festivals and
stuff like that is because music music
drives the experience. That was the
second part of like I was always into
this stuff. But music when I got into
music and making music was the I just
kicked everything off because that is
the physics mechanism of the interaction
with your your neurology. Your vag nerve
is directly connected to your ear. So
the main nerve of your whole body is
connected to your ear. It goes to that
before it goes to your brain for
processing. This is for survival. It
loud noises generally kept us alive. If
if we heard, you know, the the tree
snapping and that tiger is behind you
and you run that mechanism bypasses the
the processing centers of the brain,
particularly the amygdala, which is the
fear fear-based part of the brain,
right? fight fight or flight. And so if
you bypass that and you are in a state
of you know peace and serenity and
protection and maybe a temple
environment, maybe a music festival
environment, whatever you feel, uh then
you can achieve a level of uh
abstraction from your physical body.
Meaning you're not paying attention to
your sensory inputs as much as your
conscious experience. And then once you
have that that detached state that is
more mobile than your physical body. I
mean even on like a DMT experience you
feel almost weightless. It it feels like
the the you know you're coming out of
your your physical self. And if you can
direct that using sound and you're in an
environment that's connected with
everything else then you have your your
method of information exchange or at
least you know some sort of conscious
travel that we can't really understand
yet. [ __ ]
>> Yeah, the music music sound is is like
the most vital component to to all of
this because we we drive that
experience. Sound is the only the only
medium that we can actually manipulate
other than our our immediate physical
surroundings. So like talking to you,
you know, the sound travels and we can
manipulate the sonic environment of this
room just by speaking. That's how they
interfaced with the geometric
environment of the temple complex. Now
the design where this stuff came from
that stuff is a completely other like
how how they know how to route this
stuff and what signals and and
frequencies work with what don't know
that yet. But what we do know directly
is that that has a huge impact on your
experience whether it's in a cathedral
or an Egyptian temple or a music
festival. All of this stuff is is
happening to the brain in a in a realm
of feeling instead of thinking. So if
you bridge those two then you have
nosis. you have the feeling that comes
with the thinking in this in this uh
environment that is so life-changing
that it's the direct download of of
information.
>> It reminds me of a Dennis McKenna quote
about if you the more you ignite the
bonfire of wisdom, the more you
illuminate the surface area of
ignorance. I might have butchered that,
but essentially the more you learn, the
more you realize how little you know.
Like the more we learn about this stuff,
the more you realize like
>> what are we even talking about? Like
this is really crazy. Like I feel like
we're doing some sort of archaeology.
Like we're like brushing off the dirt
and discovering like this is crazy.
Whatever it is, like the the undeniable
aspects of like that temple.
>> How old is that? Who built that? Why?
What was your motivation? How did you do
it? Where are your where are your tools?
Why did you do it? Why is it re reach
this specific hertz? Why does it reach
this specific frequency? Why does it
resonate that way? What this is the
gateway? I think that what you're saying
is the gateway into where we're going.
>> And how the [ __ ] did they figure out how
to do it?
>> That that we get lost in how did they
move the big stone, which is also an
equally perplexing problem. But the why
for me is is where it's going to go
because that that is substantial in in
the sense that you can prove it. If if
we can alter the experience of somebody
and um the conscious experience and we
can drive that experience in a temple
environment or at least an acoustically
tuned environment with this uh geometric
ratio, maybe a recreation of a Egyptian
temple or something like that. If we can
we can recreate that experience and
prove that something is going on that
they're already trying to map the DMT
world at like Stanford or something. Add
that to the list of experiments. You
know, maybe go to a cathedral, rent it
out for a day and play with some
frequencies in there while a bunch of
people are on this, you know, sustained
DMT intervenous trip and have them have
them see what's going on because that's
the only way. I can't I can't go do that
experiment myself. I'm going to get
kicked out of the cathedral cuz I'm
going to be acting like a lunatic.
[laughter]
You know, I need permission. But
>> listen, man, this is a lot to absorb for
people. So, I think it's probably good
to end it right here. We definitely
should do this again cuz it's really
fascinating stuff and um I commend you
for the amount of time that you spent
absorbing all this and
>> your ability to recite it. It's very
impressive.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
>> Nutty [ __ ] man. It's easy to get sucked
down into that rabbit hole.
>> That's my dayto-day, dude. Well, that's
awesome, man. I'm glad you're doing it.
Uh, BassForge us is your Instagram. Um,
YouTube.
>> Yeah, same thing. Same thing on YouTube.
Um, doing a lot more live stuff this
year, too. So, like
>> what are you doing live?
>> Uh, so I'm leaving for CPAC tomorrow,
the conference for procession and
ancient knowledge that's in Cali and uh
I'll be speaking there and then coming
back and then I'm going to be playing a
music festival called Wakan in Arkansas.
And then after that, I'll be back here
for a conference called Quest for
Ancients. It's downtown Austin. Um,
they'll be speaking and playing there.
So,
>> is that the October thing?
>> Yeah,
>> that's October 16th.
>> 15th through the 18th.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. So, that one's that one's going to
be really cool. I'm debuting this brand
new project I've been working on for
like four years there. So, that's Yeah,
basically a synthesis of everything that
we've talked about with visuals and
music. So,
>> Oh, amazing.
>> Yeah, it's going to be pretty sweet.
>> Well, dude, thank you very much for
being here. I really appreciate it. It
was a [music] lot of fun.
>> Yeah. All right. Talk soon. Bye,
everybody.
>> [music]
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In this episode, Joe Rogan hosts Tyler, the creator of the 'BaseForge US' Instagram and YouTube channel, to discuss megalithic architecture, ancient technology, and the possibility of advanced civilizations that existed before mainstream history books suggest. They dive deep into the mysteries of Noah's Ark, the construction of temples like Kailasa, the precision of ancient Egyptian stone work, and the role of sound and resonance in these structures. The discussion centers on the idea that these sites may have served as sophisticated technological infrastructure—perhaps for energy generation, water purification, or consciousness modification—rather than just tombs, and explores the idea that ancient people possessed knowledge and technology vastly superior to what is conventionally taught.
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