I I'm speaking. I'm a speaking guy.

Okay. Sorry. I don't know what's

happening. So, what is your overall

viewpoint on AI, though?

>> Again, that that's sort of like saying,

"How do you feel about motherhood and

apple pie?" I like both. All things

technology that can create efficiency.

I'm I'm all in on

>> Oh my gosh. Another one of these CEO

kind of brain dead takes about AI. Here

we go. Okay. What do you got to say

there big guy?

>> You know our stock goes down by 50

points because people are like anyone

can make a video game. That was the

thesis. Any with AI anyone can make a

video game. It's like anyone can make a

video game last week. Like anyone can

make a video game 5 years ago. The

technology is readily available. It's

commoditized. You know how many mobile

games get put out a year? Thousands. You

know how many hits are made in a year? 0

to five. You know who makes them? Thank

you very much. We do.

>> Absolute

cinema. Is this a is this a CEO with a

based AI opinion? So, this is the

interview with the CEO of Take 2. If you

don't know Take 2, they're the ones that

run Zingga, uh, Rockstar, and 2K. So,

they make all the sports ball games.

They make GTA, Civilization,

Borderlands, Bioshock, Red Dead

Redemption, and they also make whatever

Zingga does, Farmville or something like

that. I don't I have no idea what that

company does, but nonetheless, this is

the CEO of those companies. and he

actually has an interview that's about 3

minutes long that is just absolutely

based normal somehow not completely

filled with psychosis view of AI.

>> Of course, he still makes a 12minute

video about it

prime

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>> I'm on your dip like a peep. Oh, I know

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>> So, the man that's inside this video is

Stros. Oh, wait. What? 1957,

bro. He's 69. Nice. But look at that

hairline. I MEAN, BRO, I I'M already

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I got to say. All right. So, let's

actually take a look at a couple of

things he said that I I just thought

were really well worded.

>> Remember what AI is, despite the fact

that there are people in Silicon Valley

who don't want you to believe this is

big data sets, lots of compute, and a

large language model mushed together.

That's what they are. So, data sets by

their very nature are backward-looking.

Creativity by its very nature is

forward-looking. Like I I really do like

what he has to say about data just

purely being a backwardslooking idea.

Whereas when you're coming up with

something super creative, it has to be

you you can't just simply be based on

everything you've ever seen before. You

have to add something a little bit, you

know, special to it. And I'm thinking

right now of Jonathan Blow's new game,

Order of the Sinking Star. Like this

looks very fun. A thousand handcrafted

puzzles. And yet this doesn't stop

really dumb tweets. This is that

mentality that I absolutely hate, right?

There's always somebody that's out there

that's just being like, "Dude, I could

vibe code this so easy peasy. Not a

problem." It's just like, "No, you

can't." Just like the Take 2 CEO said,

making video games that's already been

available. What do you mean you can now

only make them? No. 5 years ago was

commoditized. Making video games in the

'9s was genuinely super duper hard.

Making video games today can arguably be

said to be significantly easier,

especially as an indie dev,

comparatively to what they used to have

to go through. Like you have GDAU, you

have Unity, you have Unreal 5 engine

supermax lighting that looks just

absolutely radical. I could never figure

out those math equations to make

lighting look like anything. And yet

that's just completely available to

everybody. So when you see these things

and you see people being like, "A, it's

so easy." Yeah, dude. Well, you could

just vibe code. You could just vibe code

this. It's just like, no, you couldn't.

who don't have the ability or the

creativity to actually create these

things that are novel and fun and

unique. And this is also something I can

kind of generally respect about Grand

Theft Auto is that yeah, they could have

rushed it and released it, you know,

earlier this year. I mean, GTA, we've

been all waiting for GTA 6 for how long

now? But the fact is is that they're not

releasing it right away because they

want to get the game right. They

actually want it to perform well. I know

it's like a crazy AAA strategy. make a

video game and make a piece of software

that works. I know un this is unheard

of, right?

>> Wow. With AI, we can more efficiently

create a completely derivative property.

Like derivative properties don't work.

So that's where the thread has been lost

that AI so far is really great at asset

creation, but hit creation is an asset

creation. Asset creation is a necessary

but insufficient condition for hit

creation. I absolutely love this because

this just goes to show that creating

something unique in novel is still just

so difficult and and he's actually

getting to a point that's really

interesting which is okay sure asset

creation goes to zero. Let's just

pretend it goes to zero which we all

know it actually does not go to zero. Uh

but it's not like asset creation wasn't

the thing that makes something good.

That's just a part of making something

good. to make a hit, you need asset

creation. But you can't make asset

creation to make a hit. And it's just

it's so interesting, which also leads to

a second even more interesting point,

which is that now that this has been so

democratized to the point where I can

just give English to kind of produce

whatever I want. Pretend we're I'm doing

a lot of heavy lifting because I know

AI, I know how it doesn't scale, blah

blah blah blah blah blah, right? Very

difficult to actually make a really

seriously large project with it. Now,

let's just pretend you can. Even if you

could, you start getting into this area

where so much of it is going to just

feel so average and so non-hitlike

because it is just all the stuff before.

It's just so derivative that the cost of

making things as they approach zero.

What it really means is the cost of

making something novel is just going to

get harder and harder to do. It's going

to be harder and harder to stand out. I

do like the phrase that it's never been

easier to make music, but it's never

been harder to make a hit. And that's

the exact same thing with software. It's

never been easier to make software. It's

never been harder to make a hit. I mean,

that's just true. It's like we don't you

don't need this new technology to create

assets that are competitive. That

already exists. It will be quicker to do

it, but speed isn't the issue. If I told

you, David, with this technology, you

can create something that looks exactly

like GTA

and it's going to take 3 years, not 30

seconds, you'll be like, I'll spend 3

years on it. It's worth it. But and that

exists. You can in 3 years technology

exists prior to AI to clone GTA, but it

won't be GTA. Maybe a clone of GTA.

Clones don't sell. All hits are by their

very nature unexpected.

See, the thing I I I like this guy. I

like how he says it because the typical

Silicon Valley version of this is they

just say, "Oh, you need to have taste."

But there's something so much more to

that than just simply taste. It's not

just crap out of product as fast as

possible. Get the product market fit

fast as possible. Absolutely. Try to

sell to everybody completely go House of

Card style and just massively produce

code as quickly as possible just to be

able to show to somebody, hey, look, I

can make the thing really, really

quickly. Instead, it's like, well, you

can take 3 years and you can clone

whatever. You can do all these things.

All this stuff has already been

available. Anyone who's making this

excuse that somehow we weren't able to

build stuff before AI, they're just

diluting themselves and they're diluting

you. Like, that's not the case. The hard

part, and it will continue to be, is not

just taste. It's the ability to actually

build something people want and actually

have to sit down and think about it and

create IP that's actually compelling. I

just wanted to talk about this because,

you know, I've been I've been flirting

for a while now with game development.

You know, we've been on a couple dates,

okay? I've spent a few hours doing it

now. And so, I just I I love the idea

of, hey, there is still so much room and

availability to sit down and think

really, really hard about things. And

how do you make a compelling new

experience? How do you actually make

something that is just creatively unique

and maybe just maybe you can still make

a hit even if all these other things go

to zero asset creation coding and all

that which by the way uh just as more of

like an inspirational note I don't think

any of those things have gone to zero

right I don't think making compelling

assets you can just simply generate

everything there's so much to having

like a dedicated artist that makes this

cohesion somehow so much more beautiful

something that you just can't quite grab

from an AI. And there's also something

about just knowing and handtuning all

the parameters and making things really

feel and programming it a certain way

that just gives it this unique feel and

perspective that you just can't get by a

generation. There's like there's so much

to making something a unique experience

that's not just make it so number one.

And that's what I really want to

encourage you is I still think there's

just so much dang value out there in

actually being good at your craft. I

don't want you to be deluded to the

point where you think that the only

thing valuable in the world is

instantaneous time. Make it happen,

right? Because I think that if you just

fall into that trap of thinking, you're

just going to be in this weird zone

where all you do is spend all of your

money and time playing with the

stochastic machine and never actually

getting that satisfaction, that that

happiness, that goodness that comes from

creation. When you really sit down and

think about it and design something, not

just visually, but through the whole

pipeline of like this thing is well

done. From soup to nuts, I am happy.

Also, totally do not understand the

phrase soup to nuts. I do not know what

soup and nuts have to do with each

other. I assume that's like first meal

is if I have a multi-course meal and

with a finisher dessert of nuts. I don't

know. I don't understand that phrase at

all, but people say it. Okay. I really

liked this and I wish that we had more

people like him in positions of

leadership speaking about AI instead of

the constant Daario effect of just, hey,

by the way, sorry everybody, you're

jobless in six months. Yeah, you Yeah,

you Yeah, yeah, you you're done. I mean,

sure, we're going to have a company that

everybody's going to use. All these

companies that are paying millions of

dollars a year

selling to people without jobs. Okay,

weird future, dude. I don't know. Don't

know how that one's going to work out.

By the way, I would love to have this

guy on the standup. So, if anybody

happens to know him, if anybody can send

him some messages, I've tried tweeting.

Hey, you can get a hold of him. Tell him

the world's most watched standup awaits

his presence.

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