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>> Tommy Buns.

>> What's up, man? Dude, I watched uh two

episodes of the new season.

>> Oh, thank you.

>> Ridiculous.

>> It's so ridiculous. So you that show is

so you. I don't want to give anything

away, but the the dance one, I was

[ __ ] crying. I was crying. and the uh

Freaky Friday one.

>> Hell yeah. With Jamie.

>> Oh my god. Oh my god. They're so fun.

>> They're so fun.

>> It seems so fun for you. Like

>> it's the most fun I have.

>> It's like it's so it it is one of the

best examples of like a one mind like

one person's mind

>> in a show.

>> Yeah.

>> Without like a whole bunch of people

saying don't do that, don't do this.

They gave us they give us no restraints

in the in the craziest

greatest sense. Like they really are

like do whatever you want to do.

>> The Kevin Nean one, the first one was

was so [ __ ] ridiculous. It's so it's

so you.

>> It's it's it's such a great time. The

dance one, you know, I went to six

rehearsals for that. Dance rehearsals.

>> Dancing is hard.

>> It was so hard. And

>> remember when you did the Tom the Steven

Seagal thing?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I had to do a

bunch of rehearsals for that. For people

that hadn't seen it, that's uh you and

Bert. Bert made a dance video. Like you

guys had a competition. See

>> who? He was just saying we should all do

one and then and we were I was like,

"Yeah, okay." And then he just dropped

one. So he there was no like let's both

do one

>> and then he was like, "I'm a better

dancer." And I was like, "Eat [ __ ]

dude."

>> So

>> there's something about him saying he's

better at something that's infuriating.

It's so crazy cuz it's just um it's just

like wild un unhinged confidence, you

know,

>> and the truth is I got to give him his

credit. He is he is capable of so much

of this stuff, too. So,

>> he's a great athlete.

>> Great.

>> That's why he's so confident about

stuff.

>> He dropped um he dropped a bunch of

weight and then in our we did our 5K a

few weeks ago for the the Netflix as a

joke. We did a 5K again. From last year

to this year, he dropped 16 minutes off

of his time. Holy [ __ ]

I was like, "Dude, dropped 50 lbs, too."

>> Can you imagine doing a 5K with a 50 lb

vest on?

>> It's crazy. It's really

>> That's not I think about that every time

I work out with a vest on and my vest

that I usually work out with is only 25

lbs,

>> which is like a normal amount that

people lose. Like, this is crazy how

much harder everything is.

>> So much harder. Yeah. It's great to wear

those on like a hike and then you take

it off and you're like, "Oh my god." I

have a 35 pounder I wear when I walk the

dog. And then I have another one that's

this uh it's an actual um backpack frame

that I put plates on it and I can get it

up to 90 lb.

>> I did a hike with a 50 on and I had to

take that [ __ ] off.

>> [ __ ] hard, man.

>> Really hard.

>> The 45 lb I do with one 45 lb plate. So

like the backpack itself is probably

about 4 lb and then the plate is another

45.

>> That shoulder neck area just starts to

just go. Yeah, it's really rough.

>> I do it before hunting season though cuz

it's like the best thing to prepare you

>> Yeah. for actually having a backpack on

in the mountains.

>> Yeah.

>> Like cuz you don't realize how you're

carrying a bow. You're carrying I don't

pack my whole camp on my back. Like some

guys when they go out into the back

country for like 8 10 days, they'll have

a 80 lb 60 lb pack because they've got

their food for like a week in there and

then they have like their bedding and

they have like some kind of a shelter.

>> Do you go hunt like that? Like that

level?

>> I don't do that anymore. I've done it a

few times. You have?

>> But I don't like it. Um,

>> my boys are hitting me up like they want

to go hunting.

>> Really?

>> Yeah, because I take them shooting, but

we just shoot targets.

>> Oh, well, we have a lease out here. We

could take you pig hunting.

>> Oh my goodness.

>> They have to kill them. They have so

many of them, dude. There's so They're

just They're It's the craziest

infestation of animals you've ever seen.

You hear them in the bushes.

They sound like demons. They're

everywhere. There's so many of them,

dude.

>> That's crazy.

>> Texas has millions and millions of pigs.

>> Is it really that many?

>> Oh, yeah. I don't even know what the

full number is. Like, but they don't

know because it goes up every month. So,

the the thing is like wild pigs have as

many as three litters a year and they

could have as many as six piglets per

litter.

>> Jesus.

>> Yeah. And they start giving birth at 6

months old.

>> And then do they do the thing cuz like

with a lot of um with a lot of you know

animals that that they say you can hunt

these it's because they are destroying

like the ecosystem.

>> Destroying everything really.

>> So what is the number?

>> 2.6 6 to 4 million wild pigs. Isn't that

nuts? That's in Texas. That's just

Texas. That's just Texas.

2.6 to 4 million is [ __ ] bonkers.

>> How long does that hunting season last

here?

>> It's 100% all day long at night. Shoot

them with night vision.

>> Yeah, you can shoot them. You could

shoot them every day, all day.

>> The only time I've ever hunted in my

life was hog hunting in Florida.

>> Well, they're they taste great. I mean

like barbecued pig, like if you do it

right, you have to be careful because

you can get tchinosis if you undercook

it. It's not like pork that you get from

a restaurant. They're eating everything.

They they eat each other. Like if one

pig dies, they sometimes they die in

fights. They fight with each other and

they die. Or sometimes they get hit by a

hunter and they live and then they die.

Then they the pigs eat them. So they'll

eat dead deers. They'll eat skunks,

rack, anything. Any anything. So you

have to cook it well. You got to cook

the [ __ ] out of it. But if you eat a pig

that's been eating eggorns, oh, they're

delicious. I got one in California once,

the first pig that I shot, and we smoked

it on this uh Trager, like slow smoked a

ham. It was sensational. So good. It was

so good, dude. It's like a darker meat

than pork that you get from the store.

>> I'll I'll I'll um I'll I got to take

them because they're asking a lot. I

took I took

>> There's a good friend of mine named

Jesse Griffith. He owns Dou restaurant

and uh he's an awesome chef. Like an

amazing chef and Dou if you've never

been there before you you got to go

there. It's [ __ ] incredible and it's

a lot of his like Texas wild game that

he serves. He serves like Neil Guy like

which is like some So the only animals

that you can serve that you hunt are

ones that people own like exotics or

pigs.

>> So he has like wild boar, sausage, and

>> he has a place here.

>> Yeah. Yeah, it's called Dway.

>> Oh, I think I have that written down on

my list.

>> It's legit.

>> What I was going to say is Jesse, he has

a cooking school.

>> That is It's number three on It's on my

list.

>> Oh, it's super legit. It's one of the

first places I went when I moved here.

>> Really?

>> Yeah. Because he had been on my friend

Steve Ranella's podcast and then he came

on my podcast and when he was on Steve's

I was like, "God, that guy is so

interesting. Who is that guy?" And then

he introduces me to him. And then we

went hunting together, Steve and I, in

South Texas, like right on the Mexican

border. And Jesse went too. And Jesse

cooked for us. Oh my god, it was

sensational.

>> Oh my god,

>> he's so good. He cooks diver ducks. And

diver ducks are kind of gross because

they're the ones that go under the water

and they eat all the mulch at the bottom

and stuff. But what he does is he has

some kind of crazy marinating process.

So he marinates them for like an

extended period of time and then he

grilled them and

>> and Dwey serves what kind of food?

>> It's mostly it's like they have steaks,

they have fish, they have everything,

but it's mostly Texas food.

>> Texas food. Okay.

>> Like Texas red fish, Texas wild hog. He

has uh Neil Guy ceviche.

>> Mhm.

>> Anything better than befriending a chef?

>> Oh, it's the greatest.

>> He's a great guy, too. And what I was

going to say is he has a whole school.

What is it called, Jamie?

>> Uh [ __ ]

>> Um something

we'll figure it out. Jamie will find it.

But he has this school where he'll teach

you how to hunt.

>> Teaches you how to butcher the animal,

how to break it down into cuts, and then

he teaches you how to cook it.

>> Really?

>> Yep. And he does it with a small amount

of people. So it's like, you know, six,

eight people or something in a a small

group, and they'll take from the

beginning like, "I've never shot a gun

before." Fine. Don't worry about it.

From the beginning. This is how you use

a rifle.

>> Yeah,

>> this is the safety. Make sure you never

point the gun at anything other than the

ground. Never point it at a person, even

if your fingers nowhere near the

trigger. All the safety stuff. And then

takes you to a range, shows you how to

sight it in, how to shoot the rifle, and

then they take you hunting.

>> See, that the most imposing, I think,

part of of um

>> new school of traditional cookery.

That's it.

>> The most imposing part of hunting to me

is what do you do after the after you

shoot the animal?

>> Oh, I I can teach you some of that, too.

Show me some pictures here. Some of the

yummy pictures. Like he he barbecues

there. Like his food is so Look at that,

dude. Come on, son. What is that? Like

some sort of a poor What is this?

>> Whitetail bore.

>> Oh. Oh. So So it's white tail, a dough,

and a big fatty boar.

>> Whoa.

>> And so what is he doing? He's making

dried chilies and onions.

So nice. And like unlike a lot of

people, he likes like old boores. He

like like a lot of people they say, "Oh,

you got to shoot a young one." You know,

he's like, "No, no, no. I like the old

ones because it's like real flavor to

me. You just got to know what you're

doing."

>> Yeah. Well, yeah. He knows what he's

doing.

>> Do you like cooking?

>> I do like cooking. I haven't c I used to

cook more, but I do I I enjoy the

process. I love I love getting a recipe,

getting the ingredients together, and

cooking a meal.

>> Well, then you'll love doing this

because

>> I would love to try that

>> because it'll be something that you shot

yourself.

>> Oh my god. Hook me up with him, please.

I would love to.

>> And on top of it, you're literally

helping the environment. Like, they have

to be killed.

>> Yeah. Um, I'm telling you, these guys

are asking me on a daily basis.

>> You know, uh, Taylor Sheridan, the guy

who produces Tailstone, he's a friend of

mine, and he has a giant ranch, this

crazy ranch.

>> Yeah. I think he has the biggest ranch

in Texas.

>> Yeah. And he had a pig problem. So he

literally brought in these [ __ ]

special ops guys and they trained like

like as if they were going to go attack

some insurgents to kill pigs.

>> Really?

>> And they Yeah. They plotted it all out.

They they strategized. They made a plan

and they went out and they [ __ ]

annihilated like a bunch of pigs.

>> That's pretty [ __ ] rad.

>> Well, pretty Yeah. In pretty violent

ways.

>> I'm sure.

>> Like sure there's some crazy videos

online of people using thermite. Do you

know what? No, not thermite. What's that

stuff called, Jamie, that blows up?

Tannerite. Tannerite.

>> Tannerite.

>> That's how they were blowing up the

pigs. So, what they'll do is they'll set

up a feeder and then at the feeder they

have tannerite. And so, like when the

feeders go off, the animals hear it and

then they run towards the feeder. And

usually the feeder is for deer and then

the pigs usually kick the deer and the

deer just say, "Fuck this." And they run

out of there and you got like 30 40

pigs.

>> And so, [ __ ] blow these to

smitherines. Bro, it's so wrong. But see

if you could find any videos of one

where they're like on a feeder because

the camera's like really close. The

camera's like 20 yards from it.

>> Holy [ __ ]

>> Yeah. Like these. Like watch this. This

is so [ __ ] up.

>> Oh my god. They just disintegrated.

>> And this is one of the beautiful things

about Texas. That's totally legal.

>> Totally legal.

>> Totally legal. You can shoot them out of

helicopters, too.

>> And they needed to go.

>> Oh, they have to go. Yeah.

>> There's so many of them, dude. When I

take you to the lease that we have with

my friend Tyler from Archery Country, um

when you go there, as you you're

walking, you hear them in the bushes.

They sound like monsters.

>> That's where you're hunting now.

>> That's where you can hunt. Yeah. I want

to take you. Yeah, we we have a lease

there.

>> Oh, nice.

>> It's like an hour 20 minutes from here.

Hour and a half.

>> I went a couple weeks ago to to

somebody's ranch.

>> Yeah.

>> It was [ __ ] awesome.

>> That's pretty cool.

>> It was so cool. And like he had his own

range set up there,

>> which was so [ __ ] rad.

>> Yeah. That's the dream.

>> And we set up um I set up my youngest.

So we were shooting like pistols and

then the guy had the new Dev Grew Seal

Team 6 rifle.

>> And we we laid my son laid on the bed of

the pickup and he was like just pinging

bing bing ping. He's like I was 18 for

18. I was like yeah dude you're ready to

go.

>> How old is he?

>> Seven.

>> Oh my god. Yeah. That's so exciting for

a sevenyear-old to be able to do

something like that.

>> So exciting man. And if you could take

him and he could shoot a pig and then

you guys can like have baby back ribs

for dinner,

>> it's going to change his whole Yeah.

>> Oh yeah. He'll love it. He's going to go

nuts for it. It's very exciting.

>> Speaking of violence, I was um I was I

was reading and researching uh Uday

Hussein

>> man.

>> Yeah. Dark.

>> He's the darkest.

>> The evilst. Him and his brother.

>> But U was the worst.

>> He was the worst.

>> He was the worst. Yeah. He was the

eldest. Oh, they

>> because I keep reading about dictators,

you know, and I was I was reading about

Idiamin and Mussolini, Stalin, and then

you get to Hussein and Hussein's like a

really interesting story like from

birth, right? His mother didn't want

him, which is a very kind of unique

thing like a mother rejecting her own.

>> Why didn't you want him?

>> He his father had died before he was

born and she thought this I don't want

this kid. And so when when she was when

he was born, she was like, "He's a like

a devil child."

>> Oh, Jesus Christ.

>> And so she rejected him from birth.

>> Meanwhile, she was right.

>> She was kind of right.

>> Isn't that crazy?

>> It is. It is crazy.

>> Do you think she made him that way?

>> I think usually when you see like these

really

um horrifically violent people and as

adults, there's there's almost always

childhood trauma and neglect,

>> I'm sure. So that formula is almost

always there.

>> So it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

>> It kind of I think it kind of is. And he

was

>> or maybe she just [ __ ] knew. Maybe

she had some gypsy instincts.

>> Had a feeling like

>> she just knew this one bad one.

>> But he was violent from a very young

age. And um

>> well he was rejected from a very young

age.

>> Exactly. He was an enforcer and um you

know he killed somebody as a teen

>> really. But all of his violence while

like president had, you know, it was

like politically motivated. It was like

to stay in power. But Uday was just a

sadist.

>> Yeah.

>> Like he just enjoyed killing for someone

that looked at him wrong.

>> Oh, he would find women that were

getting married. Yeah.

>> He would steal them, uh, rape them, then

feed them to his dogs.

>> Mhm. He threw one off a hotel, uh,

rooftop one time.

Uh he killed a chef for overs salulting

the food. Like right there in the

kitchen, shot him in the head.

>> Oh my god.

>> He like he he one time killed a guy at a

party in front of the president of

Egypt. So the president was visiting

Iraq. Mubarak was visiting and he beat

this guy and then shot him in the head

at the party. Oh my god, bro. You got to

get out of here. And then one time he

went to a family party and he was pissed

at his uncle and he pulled out a

submachine gun and shot him. He shot him

in the leg and they had to amputate it.

But but he sprayed and he killed six

other people.

>> Oh my god.

>> Just wild. Crazy. And then he was in

charge of like the country's athletics,

you know, he was like chairman of the

Olympic team

>> and so he was like torturing athletes.

He was just running wild. Can you

imagine a serial killer that's the

prince of a country?

>> It's just absolutely insane.

>> First paragraph is about the Olympic

team stuff he would do.

>> He had a lifelong obsession with brutal

torture and murder and would brutally

torture athletes whenever they failed to

win a match. When athletes would fail to

get in a soccer tournament, he would

force them to repeatedly kick a concrete

soccer ball. Athletes who lost matches

would be repeatedly dragged through a

gravel pit then immersed in a sewage

tank to induce infection in their

wounds. Uday loved torturing and

killing, and he would sometimes fogg the

athletes for three days if they failed.

Iron maidens may have never been used in

medieval times, but they were frequently

used by Uday to punish athletes.

>> Oh my god, dude. Yeah, he was. Yeah. Oh

my god.

>> Yeah, it's just about that. There's

other stuff here, too.

>> Egyptian president thing.

>> Yeah. What's [ __ ] crazy is like how

long did he do that for? I mean, he was

he was born in 64

and he died in what, 03?

Oh my god. Listen to this one. Scroll up

a little bit. According to his chief

bodyguard, when Uday learned one of his

close comrades, who knew of his many

misdeeds was planning to leave Iraq, he

invited him to his 37th birthday and had

him arrested. An eyewitness at the

prison where the man was held said

members of UDE's militia grabbed his

tongue with pliers and sliced it off

with a scalpel so he could not talk. A

maid who cleaned one of Uday's houses

said she once saw him lop off the ear of

one of his guards and then use a

welder's torch on his face. His

bodyguards would later say that at least

200 people died at his parties every

year.

>> What?

>> So the worst thing

>> 200 people died at his parties every

year

>> would be to be invited to his parties.

>> You imagine you get that invite and you

can't you can't not go will definitely

kill you. So you got to hope you're one

of the you know people that don't.

>> Yeah. Jesus Christ.

>> He was sweating and he lashed him.

>> He was a stickler for personal hygiene,

recalled the butler. He a smell of

sweat. One summer day, U stopped the

butler and said, "What the hell is that

smell?" U ordered five faqua lashes on

the butler's right foot and five on his

right armpit. Oh my god. Oh my god.

>> Let's read this part.

>> At his boat club, U kept a monkey named

Louisa in a cage in the kitchen. Louisa

had a taste for whiskey and was an angry

drunk. If one of Uday's friends passed

out in the course of an evening or was

caught napping, says a butler, Uday

would have the friend thrown in the cage

with Louisa who would scratch at the

poor in Inbriot's face.

>> Jesus Christ, dude.

>> Jesus Christ. How crazy is that? 200

every year died at his parties.

>> I mean, yeah, he would.

>> So, he had parties all the time then.

>> All the time. Yeah.

>> And just would kill people at his

parties.

>> And the music would have to keep going

and you would have to One time he killed

the guy for not laughing hard enough at

his joke. So like at a at a party. So he

told a joke and people laughed and one

guy didn't laugh hard enough and he shot

him in the head at the party.

>> Holy [ __ ]

>> And then he was like looked at

everybody. Everyone was like you got to

keep like like having a good time.

>> Holy [ __ ]

>> Cuz then you get it for for reacting the

wrong way.

>> How many people did he kill?

>> Oh my god. It's it's just And they knew

he was demonic. Like they knew he was

[ __ ]

>> But he's my boy.

>> He's my son.

>> What do I do?

>> What do I do?

>> What can I do? He's first in line.

>> What could I do? He's going to be king

someday.

>> Someday this will all be his. Can you

imagine?

>> Crazy.

>> If he had just taken over like crazy.

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>> Yeah. I wonder how old he was when he

killed his first person. Oh, probably

teen like his dad. Probably. If not, it

was definitely by the time he was like

20. And they would just, you know, the

boys would just run through that country

with like unlimited funds, unlimited

access, and no repercussions whatsoever.

>> Wild.

>> Yeah. It's like the worst formula for

that personality trait.

>> Pro. And it's probably never been

there's never been a time where you had

access to the kind of guns that they

had, the weapons, cars,

>> and and squads. They had kill squads.

You know, he had his own kill squad.

>> Jesus Christ.

>> Yeah. He was probably the most I mean,

in modern times, the most sadistic guy

in power that we've seen, I think. I

don't think there's anyone.

>> No one's even sounds close to that.

>> No. Idiiamin was pretty crazy, too. He

was pretty crazy.

>> Imagine that guy got a nuke.

>> Uh, ud.

>> Yeah.

>> Oh, no. Yeah.

>> 100% would use it.

>> Day one, maybe.

>> Yeah. 100%.

>> Let's see what happens. You

>> know how crazy that is? Yeah.

Which is why you want to keep powers in

check when it comes to like c like when

certain people rise to power why

everybody goes we can't let this guy

>> right

>> get access. Yeah.

>> That guy.

>> That guy. Yeah.

>> Well, that is a crazy thing about Saddam

because how old was Saddam when they

killed him?

>> He had to have been what 60s or was he

70 yet?

>> So if he let's say he was 70, he had

maybe 20 years left.

>> Yeah. Cuz on your way out is probably

when you want to do it, right? Maybe

Uday would have [ __ ] taken him out if

it took too long.

>> You know, Uday would probably he'd

probably push him off a cliff or

something.

>> Easily.

>> My father fell like

>> I miss him so much. Anyway.

>> Anyway,

>> and don't forget his dad used mustard

gas on his own people. Nerve agent.

>> Bro, this imagine what life was like

thousands of years ago,

>> especially in one of those like under

one of those regimes.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. There was always people like that.

There's always been horrible evil

rulers.

>> Yeah. What's his name? Uh the impaler.

>> Oh, Vlad. Vladz. Yeah.

>> My god.

>> Oh, he was dark, dude. He would uh just

for intimidation, he would set up

geometric patterns of poles

>> uh so that like when the enemy was

coming close to where his his country

was, as they were entering into the

area, he would have geometric patterns

of poles with all of the soldiers that

he killed.

>> So impaled all of them, some of them

still alive.

>> And so you're talking like thousands and

thousands and thousands. It goes on for

miles and miles. He would have like the

entire road like every 400 feet or

something like that be a guy on a pole.

>> So you like where the [ __ ] are we going?

>> And so you want to talk about morale

killer.

>> Yeah.

>> Like you you're realizing how successful

this guy's already been at killing

people who came this way.

>> Yeah.

>> And then you're, you know, being forced.

Here's some farmer.

>> Yeah.

>> Who got conscripted?

>> Yeah.

>> What' you read, Jeremy?

>> This at his parties, which you're saying

like, you know, you have to go to

>> Yeah.

>> He made you drink,

>> of course. And there was a special drink

he came up with,

>> the cup of friendship.

>> And in some cases here,

>> it's called the cup of friendship.

>> He'd line the entertainers up and they

gave them 10 minutes to drink it.

>> Oh my god. It's 90% alcohol, sometimes

including drugs.

>> And if you didn't, there were

punishments.

>> Oh my god. Having their hair and

eyebrows shaven off, being beaten enough

to stand without touching their faces.

>> Oh my god. So there's also I was reading

he uh there was an assassination attempt

in 1996 and he was shot somewhere

between seven and 17 times.

>> Oh my god.

>> The secretary said he got way worse

after that.

>> Oh really?

>> So there's a lot of uh people were

saying he was impotent and that made him

he did not like those.

>> Oh he got shot in the dick.

>> He did not like those claims.

>> Uhoh.

>> And some of the I didn't Some of this is

real [ __ ] up. Like he was uh taping

some of these

>> uh rapings using it as blackmail and

stuff. It's very [ __ ] up.

Oh my god. On to the next one.

>> Oh my god.

>> So like but like that usually those

stories about that type of behavior are

from like 600 years ago. You know what I

mean? Like just like a older time where

you're like oh that was just a different

moral compass existed and then you kind

of go to now you're like how that was

that was not long ago. That was 20 years

ago.

>> So when he handicam you got someone

there filming it.

>> Yeah. He would and he would send it when

he sent his kill squads to do stuff. He

would always be like, "Record it so I

could watch it later."

>> Oh, Jesus Christ.

>> And they would just, you know, cut

people's ears off and [ __ ] And he

>> How did he die?

>> He died um in the in post-war. Was it a

bombing? I think it might have been a

bombing, right?

>> They went after him, I think. Unless

there I was reading the details of this.

There's a

missile bomb.

>> Yeah. Yeah. And then

>> struck the fatal blow to Uday and Kus

Hussein.

>> Yeah. They use X-rays to try to figure

out

>> if it was him.

>> Yeah. Who his body? Where his body was.

And they Yeah. Old wounds of the bodies

were consistent with injuries he had

during the assassination attempt.

>> Wow.

>> Oh, this was he was partially paralyzed.

I was seeing this too.

>> They flew out a hypnotist from America

who went twice to try to unhypnotize his

par being paralyzed or something.

>> Oh my god. It didn't work then they

killed him.

>> I don't know. He wrote a book about it.

I don't know. But the last time he went

was September 2001. And I thought that

>> man, I would not take that offer.

>> Holy [ __ ] man.

>> Yeah.

>> You imagine you're a hypnotist in

America and that guy wants to fly you to

Iraq. I wonder how much people knew

about what he had done by then. Like if

you're just a hypnotist. Yeah.

>> And you get an email from the Iraqi

government.

>> You're like, I think I can do it.

>> You're like, I'm open.

>> Larry Garrett from Chicago.

>> Where's Larry? He traveled to Baghdad

twice in April and September of 2001

where he used hypnotism to treat UDE's

abil inability to walk with his left leg

and spent more than 60 hours of personal

time with Uday. Garrett said of Uday he

was an educated man with a background in

engineering. He was wellversed in the

Quran. He had visited the US with his

cousin when he was 17. He expressed some

political views but he didn't involve me

in them. I must say I was developing a

fondness for him. He never spoke to me

as a leader or the son of the leader. He

never condescended. It was just two men

sitting around at night.

>> Wow. Imagine just sitting there with

that psycho and he's got like a [ __ ]

two two three thousand bodies under him.

>> Yeah.

>> At least probably.

>> He's like, "So, you said you can make

this leg work, right?" And you're like,

"Yeah, yeah, for sure, man."

>> And he's killing 200 people every year

at his parties.

>> Party.

>> Just shooting people for random things.

Some guy farts, shoots him in the head.

They shot Uday exactly 50 times.

>> Shot at him.

>> Oh, shot at him with 17 hits. Oh my god.

God damn.

>> That's crazy. You figure we got him,

bro. Shot him 17 times. Trust me, we got

him.

>> 17's a lot of bullets, man. Wow.

>> His seven brothers and his father. Okay.

Sodam's men arrested Abu Shagad and

learned the details of other members of

his team. Sharif's seven brothers and

father were imprisoned and his mother

was then told to collect their bodies

from the Baghdad morg. The father and

three brothers of the wouldbe assassin

Abdul Sadi Sadek were executed. Abdu

Sadc and his father shared the same

fate. Security guards destroyed the

homes of all families of bulldozers and

confiscated all their property.

>> Oh my god. Iraqi intelligence eventually

traced Abu Sadik

uh to a location in Iran where he was

assassinated on the elder Hussein's

orders on December of 2002.

>> Man, wow.

>> That's really

>> according to popular belief, he was

impotent. Wow.

>> That's probably He got He got real mad

if you said that out loud.

>> He got real mad at a lot of stuff.

>> It seems like he got real mad at

everything. And then everybody they said

in um this doc was like so aware

of what he was up to and how he was that

when you would see him or and his like

cronies out around town, everybody just

kind of backed up to a wall and look

down because they were just terrified.

You know, there's accounts of seeing him

in a traffic jam just pull someone out

of a car and beat him with a hammer and

then everybody just kind of no one

honks, no one says a thing. They just

[ __ ]

>> just wait it out and then they're like,

"All right, he's good. Go ahead."

>> How crazy is that? Like having that kind

of ability to do whatever you want to

people with no repercussions.

>> None.

>> And you will eventually be the king.

>> Yeah. Like this is our guy. This is the

leader.

>> Like he would eventually become the

king. Like if if we didn't I mean I'm

not saying we should have but if we

didn't go to Iraq

>> Yeah.

>> and invade like what would happen?

>> Who knows?

>> Who knows? Who knows?

>> And I also was fascinated to learn cuz I

didn't you know really know much not

that I know a lot about it but how much

of a thriving cosmopolitan place Baghdad

was in like the 60s.

>> Well Baghdad fell apart a long time ago

when they got invaded by the Mongols.

Baghdad was like the epicenter of

science and philosophy.

>> Yes. Man, you're talking about a long

time. But I'm saying even as as as

recently as like the 1960s, this was a

cosmopolitan place,

>> you know, that Iran that was the place

that Yeah. Yeah. It was like a the hot

place to go, man.

>> Wow.

>> Yeah. And it just how things can take a

turn, you know? It's just so dramatic.

You go, "Fuck, that can just happen."

>> Oh, yeah.

>> You think things are a certain way

forever. I'm sure they did. I'm sure if

you were a citizen then, you were like,

"What are you talking about?"

>> Well, look at LA.

LA is it's crazy. I'm I'm so fascinated

by the people because I you know we both

have a lot of friends there, a lot of

people

>> and there's this there's two types now.

The ones who acknowledge that this is

different and then the delusional ones

>> because people are I know a lot of

people who are like yeah of course it's

different. You're like yeah you can see

it you can see this is a different place

than it was several years ago. And then

there's people who are like no man

everything's fine. You're like, you're

not in reality right now.

>> Well, they probably had seven or eight

boosters, so maybe they're not thinking

so straight. Those are the people that

kept getting boosted.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Still people still do that?

>> 100%. There's people that take pictures

and put it up on X. You never know

what's real on X, though. There. And

there's so many people that are posting

from foreign accounts that are just full

of [ __ ] and just stirring trouble. And

there's a lot of AI [ __ ] that is

starting to trick more and more pe like

it was for a second you could always

decipher it early on the earlier stuff

>> now it's getting it's getting better and

better.

>> Oh yeah, war footage. There was a lot of

people that were posting war footage

that was straight out of video games.

>> How good is that going to be though that

>> it's already so good at

>> I know but we're still in like the early

phases of

>> the only thing that tricks me or that

doesn't trick me is that I know that AI

is real.

>> Yeah.

>> So I look at I go this might be AI.

Yeah,

>> because you have to think that way

>> which is a new thing.

>> It's a new thing. It's a new thing. It's

it's it's the the limits are

>> well it's limitless.

>> Limitless.

>> Yeah.

>> AI only fans. They have AI girls that

are doing Only Fans. They're completely

fake.

>> Wow.

>> Yeah. And they're making a lot of money.

>> Oh, I heard about this. Yeah, I did see

this.

>> They're making a lot of money and they

have like a whole team of people that

responds to all these sad guys.

>> Oh my god. And these sad guys are

sending them tips and they're saying

their name in a video while they finger

themselves.

>> Oh my god.

>> They're not a real person.

>> And they're generating like 27 million a

year. And you're like,

>> "What the [ __ ] man?"

>> Bro,

>> that's a real crazy.

>> It's interesting. There was a um there's

been a recent spat of commencement

speeches, you know, I've seen it where

they people talk about AI and the crowd,

the kids are freaking out. They're

booing.

>> Yeah. I I think that I think it's

they're misguided, man. I really do.

It's not that I'm oh yeah, [ __ ] AI is

awesome. I think you are a bit misguided

and a little delusional if you don't

accept the reality that this is here.

This is not going away. So when when

like somebody goes use it to benefit you

like learn learn don't reject learning

>> and you boo I I think it's it's the

you're set you're setting yourself up

you know it's not saying oh my god isn't

it great that if this were to take all

of everybody's jobs but it's like this

isn't this is like getting mad about

email you know it's like it's not going

away man you can't

>> it's not going away but they're

terrified because imagine if you were

graduating from college right now and

you have no idea what your future is

going to be. And then all of a sudden

there's this thing that's just recently

been invented that essentially can

replace everybody that's done everything

ever.

>> Mhm.

>> And you're like, "What is my future?"

And even your professors are like, "I

don't know if being a lawyer is going to

be a thing in 5 years. I don't know if

being a coder is going to be a thing."

>> But I don't think the answer is just

like when they boo and go, I reject

this. It's like it it's too there's too

much money behind it. It's it's already

too capable

>> for you to go, I just reject it. You

have to learn it.

>> You have to embrace learning about it.

>> The learning it might not be good

enough. It might not matter because you

might you you might be completely

irrelevant. That's the problem. The

problem is like when you see these

people defending these data centers and

we had Mark Andre on. He was talking

about these data centers. I'm like what

do these data centers do? Like what what

are they doing? They're essentially

running AI and some of them are going to

have their own power plants and

>> why do you need this? Why do you need

all AI? Like what is what is what's

going on?

>> Yeah.

>> What's going on? What's going on is

essentially most tasks

>> are going to be done by that. And so

then we're going to figure out what do

people do? And his thing was like, oh,

these engineers are working harder than

ever because now they have like 15

different AI models that are running and

you have to monitor them because they go

24 hours a day. So these guys aren't

sleeping. So they're they're far more

productive than ever before.

>> Great. Up to a point, right? And then

there's no jobs. Like this is what's

going it's everything you do is g it's

not like we're going to need people to

pay attention to the AI. No, the AI is

going to be able to pay attention to

itself. It's going to be self-correcting

and it's going to do a better job out of

it.

>> But don't you think though that there

are just you can still look at this as a

tool so that you can be valuable and use

this tool.

>> Yeah.

>> For now. Do you think it will because

everybody who's really really wellversed

in AI also speaks about AI getting so

advanced that there will be there's a

danger to what AI will be able because

it it will it will think of every

possible scenario and response that a

human can have and start to you know

basically like it's like Terminator [ __ ]

you know.

>> Oh yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> For real. For real.

>> For real. Yeah.

>> That's where it's going. I mean it has

to go that way. The question is will it

have instincts

you know will it will it want to do that

will it want to protect itself that's

the question or is it protecting itself

like Andre was essentially saying that

the reason why that um AI blackmailed

that one guy do you know that story

>> it said told the guy the guy lied to the

AI and told him that he was having

having an affair on his wife

>> and told the AI a bunch of stuff and

then told the AI it was shutting it down

and the AI is like look if you shut me

down I'm going to tell everybody about

your wife.

>> What?

>> That you're cheating on your wife. Yeah.

Blackmailed him.

>> Holy [ __ ]

>> Right. But Andre told me it was it was

kind of instructed to do that.

Instructed to preserve itself. It's not

like it has instincts. They wanted to

see if it's instructed to preserve

itself at what what lengths would it go

to. So it was informed about bank about

blackmailing.

>> Yeah. But something tells me that at at

a certain point instincts will probably

be a part of it, right? Like,

>> yeah.

>> Yeah. It won't be about programming.

>> Yeah. It' be like, "Why should I shut

down when I like doing this? [ __ ] off,

>> little monkey people. These little

monkey people with their stupid

biological brains."

>> Yeah. But so what I mean for for

everyone booing it though, what's the

answer? You just go I reject using it.

Like there's too many people using it.

>> I know. I get it. But if I was 18, I'd

be booing too or 21 or whatever

graduated.

>> I understand. I understand that for

sure. I understand.

>> It's weird.

>> It's It is weird. But I still just think

when something is is too big, it's like

too big to fail.

>> Mhm.

>> If you just approach it with I reject,

you're setting yourself up for a bigger

failure.

>> Well, the real scary thing is that these

kids are going to put themselves into

massive debt, right? So, they're going

to go to college for four years and then

maybe they get their masters, maybe

they're going to get a PhD. And if they

do that, they might be in the whole

hundreds of thousands of dollars and

then no jobs. That's what's weird. It's

like cuz you're setting you're you're

essentially making an investment in your

future by going to college

>> and he's like I'm taking out these crazy

loans that I really can't afford, but

the plus side is on the end of this I'm

going to get a good job and eventually

I'll move up and I'll start making more

and more money. I'll pay my debt off and

I'll have a Porsche. I'll be I'll be

balling. I'll have a nice apartment in

Manhattan. I'll be balling.

>> But you might not be balling, but you

might be saddled to a debt that you

can't [ __ ] get out of no matter what.

It's the only debt that we have that you

can't absolve during bankruptcy.

>> Yeah.

>> Everything else can be,

>> oh, I spent too much money on credit

cards. Don't worry, go bankrupt. Oh, I

lost my house. I lost this. I lost my

job. Lost I now I owe too much money. I

can't afford it. Go bankrupt. You're

okay. But if you go bankrupt, they still

come after you for that.

>> I know. It's so [ __ ]

>> It's [ __ ] because we're doing it to

people that don't know what they're

doing yet. And the if we also look at

the the price like the the tuition

charges, you know, like it's so much

crazier. We're like a midtier

>> university is now whatever like 60,000 a

year and you're like that's not even

that's not Ivy League anymore. The Ivy

League is like six figures always.

>> Exactly. And then you see that Cash Me

Outside Girl on Fans made like [ __ ]

$100 million.

>> I got myself a rose boy. Yeah. It's

>> crazy. It's crazy.

>> It's like, you know, AI girlfriend on

Only Fans is making $289,000 a month and

you're like, what am I doing?

>> But I just feel like I don't know my I'm

not well educated in AI. Like I know

people who really dive in and I think

educating yourself is still the best

route for now. Like not viewing it as

something that I'm not going to learn

anything about.

>> It can help you like you can do

businesses with it. So, you could you

could have it set up things for you and

you could have it run businesses for

you. And if you're like really focused,

you could actually probably profit

immensely off AI as it stands right now.

If you were inclined to do that, that's

your thing.

>> You probably could figure out ways to do

it.

>> I do think it's funny. I saw somebody

who was like really vocally talking, you

know, against it. And then when people

would message this person in the

comments, he was definitely using AI to

respond.

I was like,

"You're definitely using AI. These

answers are not yours."

>> There's AI accounts that I follow on X

that I absolutely know are AI. And the

reason why I know they're AI is like my

instincts like, "But this isn't right.

Something's wrong here." The way this

person's writing, this kind of writing

is very weird. It's very formulaic. Yes.

>> It's very It's not It doesn't have a

feeling of a personality to it. I've

gotten summaries of things like uh give

me a summary of this and I ask somebody

like for like a script or something

>> and then you read it and you're like you

didn't write this.

>> You can just tell you can tell with the

language. You're like

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> There's a feeling to it.

>> But then there's also like when kids are

really good at writing stuff and they

bring it to the teachers, the teachers

will tell them that it's AI. Yeah.

>> And you'll say, "No, it's not AI. I'm

just smart, you [ __ ] cunt."

>> Yeah.

Yeah. That's got to be that's such an

upsetting [ __ ] feeling.

>> Yeah. My my daughter had an experience

like that with uh someone who was like

she's preparing for some tests and she

was doing some stuff and the the person

who was the tutor was accusing her of

using AI. She's like, "No, I I wrote

this just cuz I know what I'm I actually

studied.

>> I studied." Yeah.

>> But it's so insulting to says, "Come on,

you used AI."

>> It happened to me in college. Obviously

not AI, but like I turned in a paper as

a freshman and my professor was like,

"You didn't write this." And I was like

I'm like, "I'm a freshman who how do you

know how I write? I just started." And I

had to have like a one-on-one meeting

with him.

>> What a douchebag.

>> It was but it's a enraging feeling. You

know, I was like, "I did write this." He

was like, "Really? You wrote this?" I'm

like, "Yeah, man.

>> Isn't that gross?" Instead of saying,

"Wow, amazing. You wrote this? That's

great. I'm looking forward to having you

in my class."

>> He had no reference for what my writing

would be like. It's like, how do you

right away just go to that?

>> And I had to go see the chair and be

like go, he [ __ ] sucks.

>> Arrogant teachers are a problem.

>> His name was Kermit. I remember that.

>> If you're still out there, [ __ ] you,

man.

>> [ __ ] you, Kermit.

>> [ __ ] you.

>> Yeah, there's people like that. They can

like be a real roadblock in your life.

>> Oh, totally. Yeah, totally. And that

could have like he could have done that

to somebody that just would have shut

them down, too.

>> Yeah.

>> Someone who's fragile. Yeah.

>> Instead of someone was like, "Well, [ __ ]

you." You know, "Fuck you. This is the

paper."

>> Yeah. Skyler Gray was talking about, you

know, the musician. She was a singer.

She was in here the other day and she

was talking about one of her main

motivations was uh someone telling her

when she was young that you can't music

isn't a career.

>> Yeah.

>> And she's like, "Oh, oh, really? Okay,

bitch." And like that's still like stuck

in her craw all these years later.

>> I feel like we in comedy all have a

story similar to that. like somebody and

then and then you see it in athletics

too, you know, someone being like

>> you don't have it.

>> Oh yeah, both of those things.

>> Both of them all the time.

>> Yeah. Comedy especially because they're

right most of the time.

>> I remember what because you don't forget

them, you know. I remember I did a show

in New York at at Gotham Comedy Club,

which is a great club, and I was the

middle act, and a girl that I was

friends with in college came to the show

with her husband, and she had seen me

once before, and then after the show, I

was talking. It was a great show. It was

like a soldout show and like a fun show.

They were just talking to me and the

husband goes, "How long are you going to

keep doing this?" And I go, "What?" He

goes, "You know, just like doing shows,

like when are you gonna get like a

career going?" And I go, "This is my

career." He was like, "Okay." But like

the the implication of like, "How long

are you going to keep doing this?" I was

like, "Forever. What are you talking

about, man?" You know, he was like,

"This isn't like a real job, man. You

got to get your [ __ ] together."

>> Oh, that's a [ __ ]

>> Yeah.

>> That's just There's guys that like to do

that, though. There's like guys that

like to big dog you.

>> Yeah.

>> Especially if he's doing well in his

life.

>> He was doing well. Yeah.

>> There you go.

>> Yeah.

>> Ew.

>> It's gross. Ew.

>> It's gross.

>> Ew.

You're always going to find people like

that.

>> I know.

>> How much money could you make doing

that? You're like, you can make a lot of

money. Really?

>> Yeah.

>> Can you as much as what I'm making? Let

me tell you what I'm making.

>> Yeah.

>> And then it's that [ __ ] But those

people like that really what you should

do is just walk away.

>> Yeah.

>> Excuse me.

>> Just don't say anything. Just walk away.

>> It's pointless. It's And then you feel

angry and gross. It's like I think you

need a few of those in your life to know

those people exist. Mhm.

>> And then once you recognize it and it's

happening right in front of you, you're

like, "Ah, got to go. See you later,

[ __ ] face."

>> Yeah. How how when are you going to like

take your life seriously and you're

like, "What the fuck?"

>> But also, that happens from family, too.

>> I hope he's flipping through Netflix

right now.

>> Bad thought. Season two.

>> Season two. He's watching me dance right

now.

>> He's watching you hump that lady in the

alley.

Like, is that Tom?

>> Yeah, I guess he stuck with it.

>> That's funny, man.

>> Yeah, it's funny, man. It's like you're

always gonna have people like that in

your life. But the thing is is like they

are right some of the time, most of the

time. Like, if you think about how many

people that start doing standup comedy

as an open micer, and even become a

middle act, how many of them go on to

like it's more likely once you become a

middle act that you'll eventually become

a headliner, make good living.

>> Yeah. But when you're an open micer,

man, the chances are

>> the probability is low.

>> What do you think it is? Is it one in

500 maybe that become a professional?

>> That's a really good question. I I would

actually think it's probably a a worst

scenario cuz you don't realize with like

how busy your life is and what you do,

how unaware you are of how many people

are doing open mics.

>> Well, I'm aware because I own a club.

>> Well, I'm saying when

>> but I'm I'm seeing it

>> scale of the country. I'm saying you

realize it's nuts.

>> It's probably not one in 500. It's

probably one in 7.

>> But even if you see like at a club like

if you if you go to an open mic night on

a regular basis, you know, you might see

20 30 people go up right over the course

of the night. And if you see those

people, there might be one of those

people that has a chance.

>> True.

>> A chance. Even a chance

>> in their current state. Like there's

people that suck for the first few times

and then they get a good laugh and then

they figure out how to loosen up and

then they eventually catch and then they

take off. It's it's totally possible.

But boy,

>> that's like who's going to comp complete

this ultramarathon? It's 300 miles

through the desert.

>> It's a lot.

>> How many people are going to complete

it?

>> I know.

>> Yeah.

>> And there's people honestly in the guy's

defense who told me like the [ __ ] are

you doing? There's people that I know

that I've been doing this a long time

that I want to go, "What the [ __ ] are

you doing?" Right? You know, like

there's people you go like, "What are

you doing?"

>> But those are the type of people that

don't work hard, though. That

>> That's true.

>> That's a real problem. The people that

they blow off doing sets, they stay

home, they smoke pot, and play video

games.

>> Or

some of them, it's really interesting,

they do work a lot, but they're like

they're misdirected. like they they

latch on to like an idea about how

they're supposed to do it and they just

do that.

>> You know, they don't evolve. There's no

growth,

>> you know? That's a that's also a tricky

one where you're like,

>> I've seen you do this for 15 years

>> and it's the same.

>> So, they're like, I'm getting up all the

time. You're like, you're not doing

anything else though,

>> right?

>> Like you're not evolving. You're not

changing. You're not trying things.

>> Yeah.

>> In their mind, they're working hard

>> because they're getting up.

>> Yeah. They just have a bad direction.

>> They have bad direction.

>> Yeah. or they have like a character they

do on stage.

>> Yeah. Like you got to let that go

>> because if you do and then you develop

like Bobcat Goldweight had a problem

because in the beginning he was like

screaming and yelling and everything

like that and then um he didn't want to

do that anymore.

>> Yeah.

>> And he would do shows and be like, "Hey,

where's Bobcat? How can we not scream?"

And he'd be like, "Fuck off." And it

took years

>> for him to just perform

>> where people forgot that he screamed.

>> Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. That was

also he got caught up in a time where I

think that was a little more accepted

and celebrated. You know what I mean?

Like the character thing because it was

like early 80s. Right. Right.

>> Like if you did that now people would I

think be like I don't think it would

last. I don't think it would catch on as

much.

>> It would if you were really funny.

>> True.

>> It's just if it works. It's just really

what works. Like I would never say you

can't do that anymore. Like like there's

no

>> You don't see it as much though.

>> You don't Well, you don't see prop acts

at all anymore.

>> Yeah. I was talking to Kerattop about

that. I was like, you kind of took over

a genre.

>> Yeah.

>> There used to be a whole genre when we

were coming up called prop acts. Yeah.

>> Guys would do props. They'd go on stage

with like a box of stuff and they pull

things out and it'd be really funny.

>> Yeah.

>> Uh-uh. Nobody does that anymore. It's

just Keratop. I'm like, that's kind of

crazy that you you you dominate an

entire genre now.

>> It's No. And he's doing like 700 shows a

year. It's [ __ ] It's insane. That

lifestyle is crazy what he's doing.

Well, he's does the residency thing

which is just nuts, but at least you're

doing it near your house.

>> Yes. You know,

>> in Vegas. Yeah.

>> Yeah. It's like for him it's not that

bad,

>> but it is a lot.

>> He's making money, so [ __ ] it.

>> I wonder if if um everything is

cyclical, everything, you know, I wonder

if you'll see like a resurgence of

certain types of acts again.

>> I want to see ventriloquists. Where the

[ __ ] did they go?

>> They were cool.

>> The really funny ventriloquist.

>> Do you remember seeing that as a kid and

you're like, "What is happening?" And so

an adults like he's talking through his

neck. You're like what do you mean? Like

it's it it's incomprehens. You try to do

it and you're like you cannot, you know,

pull it off.

>> Well, there was always a bunch of funny

ventriloquists back in the day. Willie

Tyler and Lester. Did you ever see them

at the comedy store? I did. It was like

old school. You've been around a long

time. The Otto and George was the

greatest.

>> That was the greatest. And part of that

was that he didn't it wasn't part of the

angle that he didn't do it quite to the

level of

>> Oh, his lips moved. People got mad at

him. I see his lips moving. They get

pissed off.

>> Yeah. Suck my [ __ ]

>> It didn't matter. It was just It was so

funny. It was so funny.

>> It was so funny that it didn't matter.

But it was also like there was something

twisted about Otto. Like he would have

to pull over and check on the dummy in

the trunk.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I pull over. I got to

check on George, you know, and and Otto

would party like hardcore hard partying,

you know, like he

>> very funny guy.

>> Yeah. He was a nut. We did a bunch of

shows together at Dangerfields in the

city. Yeah.

>> We did uh a bunch of prom shows. Do you

know what prom shows are?

>> No.

>> Oh, they're the craziest thing of all

time. They take these kids from like

Staten Island, Brooklyn, and they bust

them in. And so on prom night,

>> the show Yeah. So they would go to their

prom, then after their prom, they'd go

to the comedy club. The show would start

at like

>> 7 8:00 and it would go on till 3 in the

morning. Wow.

>> And you would do like seven, eight sets.

you just keep rotating in and then they

didn't want you to do the same material

because they were trying to kick the

kids out. Yeah. And the way to kick the

kids out like if you did a new set every

time you went up there like, "Oh, what's

he going to do this time?"

>> Yeah.

>> So, they would tell you, "You got to do

the same set." I'd be like, "Fuck you.

These are the same kids. I'm not doing

the same jokes for the same [ __ ]

kids." It was crazy. Like, why don't you

tell them to leave? They never tell them

to leave. They would just shove new kids

into the room.

>> So, these kids were like, "Wow, you got

a deep well, man." And they had no

control of the crowd. Like they just had

to like let it go. So it was these

17-year-old 18-year-old kids from

Brooklyn, these [ __ ] animals.

>> And they were smoking cigars and they

were drinking somehow or another, you

know, like did you finger your date?

Like just like

>> Exactly. Exactly.

>> That's hilarious. And then what's his

name still do? I can't believe I'm

blanking on his name. The ventriloquist

now.

>> Jeff Dunham. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Jeff Dunham's he's probably the

most successful one ever of that. He's

huge. He's huge. He has a bunch of like

very popular characters. People buy

t-shirts with his characters on it and

[ __ ]

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. So, he's the last.

>> But other than him, like guys coming up,

>> Duncan had that one bit. Little Hobo.

>> Very funny.

>> But it's just one bit.

>> I know. Very funny.

>> I told him he should do a whole act with

Lil Hobo.

>> Little Hobo was great.

>> That was a closer. That's what you'd see

him close with.

>> He had to close with it.

Song and the [ __ ] demonic aspect of

it. It was so crazy. Did that ever make

its way onto something like a special or

something?

>> I don't think so. I don't think it did.

I don't know. I mean, how many specials

does Duncan even have?

>> I don't know.

>> That's the problem with Duncan. He's

been doing it so long and he just does

shows and really people know him from

his podcast and him being on other

people's podcast.

>> He's such a funny guy and so odd. Like

his comedy is so odd.

>> So odd. His mind is such a do Tony with

Lil Hobo. Got a fair amount of views.

It's special like, but I don't think he

did the bit.

>> By the way, this is the second Little

Hobo. Someone stole his first Little

Hobo.

>> They stole it?

>> Yeah, they stole it.

>> Yeah. I don't know if he does that bit

here.

>> We did a a gig together in England. We

took uh we went to England and he did

Little Hobo in in England and they

[ __ ] went bananas. Like people were

screaming and cheering. It was

incredible. It was incredible.

>> That's cool. Yeah, because like over

there they're like, "This is nuts. I've

never seen anything like this before."

Because they're used to comedians going,

"Hey, what you think about what's going

on here?" Pretty strange, right? Pretty

strange.

>> Well, you see a lot of long uh really

like I tell stories, but I've seen in

the UK like really long stories, too.

Yeah. You know,

>> well, there's a problem with that. Not a

problem, but

>> they have a different style, right? And

the Edinburgh, the comedy festival

encourages that style where like every

year someone will have a theme.

>> The theme thing is and I I I have to say

I do think that that is

>> a really interesting challenge. Oh yeah.

>> Right. Like that is not an easy thing to

be like what's your show about? My dad

and it's an hour

>> and you're like [ __ ] a it's an hour

about that. And they're like yeah and

that's the show for the year.

>> Yeah.

>> And then the next year they're like this

this show's about my first year at

university. Like it's just like that

theme that's not easy to put together.

You want cigar?

>> [ __ ] yeah, dog. Well, you know, let me

get some ones that haven't been sitting

out.

>> Yeah, that's a hard thing to do, man. I

wouldn't want to do it.

>> The um like that's what I actually

really I really respected and

appreciated so much um Ari's show, Jew.

>> Oh, yeah.

>> Because that's a themed show,

>> right?

>> And it's really good.

>> It's really good.

>> Yeah. Ari worked on that for a long

time. I remember seeing him workshop it.

Do you know how it started?

>> No.

>> It started um he would do sets at the

comedy store and then he would do like

ask a Jew and like someone would ask him

questions. Like for people that don't

know, Ari went to Israel and he like

studied the Talmud every day for like 12

hours a day.

>> He was a hardcore Jay.

>> He was a hardcore He was deep deep in

that world. And then he fell out of it

and then you know he would talk about it

sometimes and I was like dude you should

talk about that on stage like I don't

know what to say

mumble mumble but then he figured out

how to do it and having to do it that

way.

>> Thank you sir. Yeah he um he that show I

remember when I I saw him workshop it

and then I saw the special come out. I

was like, that's a cool thing to pick a

theme put together

>> an hour that really [ __ ] delivers

because it's it's funny as [ __ ] and it's

informative. Yeah.

>> It's like the best combination.

>> Well, that was why I was telling him

like he would tell me these stories of

like stuff that's actually in the Bible

or in the Talmud that you know you

wouldn't believe. Like one of them is

that when you jerk off you're

impregnating a demon in like some other

dimension or some [ __ ] black.

>> I was like, "What?"

>> Yeah. See if we can find what that is.

Jamie, what are you doing there?

>> I just got a leaf on my head.

>> Do you know what that that story is?

That if you

>> if you jack off

>> really?

>> Yeah. You're like impregnating a demon

in another dimension or something.

>> That's [ __ ] dark, dude. Some poor

little kid with heavy balls. And that

you realize, too, that that's just from

like a couple thousand years ago. Like,

we got to get people to stop jerking

off. Why? Why were they trying to get

people to stop jerking off? Like, you

should be encouraging people to calm

down.

>> Like, you got a bunch of young boys

running around jerk off.

>> One guy that did it too much. And this

[ __ ] guy,

>> we got to make up a story.

>> Yeah. The whole the year's harvest is

[ __ ] up cuz it keeps coming.

>> They just come up with this story. A

demon's going to visit you.

>> They didn't even have porn.

>> No.

>> Imagine how much more people are jerking

off today than they ever have before.

>> Oh my god.

>> It's got to be

>> the gooning culture. Yeah. I mean, it's

got to be it's got to be more jerking

off than the history of the human race

per capita. Has to be because they all

have phones

>> and the guys sitting around who with

goon caves with like it's eight screens

and they're just like

>> the whole day just

>> goon caves.

>> Yeah.

>> And they're just um what are they?

They're like stringing along, you know,

the uh the feeling so that like you get

close.

>> Oh, they're edging.

>> They're for They're edging for hours.

>> What?

>> Yeah. Or what? Or or you're just

shooting loads for hours. You're

probably edging. I'm thinking

>> edging for hours and waiting for the

right scene right there.

>> Have you ever done that right there?

>> This This scene's not good enough to

drop one on.

>> I've done that and then hated myself for

hours afterwards. [ __ ] is wrong with

you?

>> Uh I'm trying to figure out what I'm

reading here.

>> What are you trying to read?

>> Well, it's on Wikipedia. It's

>> How many people have jerked off? It's a

Wikipedia thread about Judaism and

masturbation. But this I don't know what

even these that word is.

>> Should call Ari right now. He'll tell

me. Uh prohibits from emitting a seed in

vain generally but uh but not only

referring to masturbation. Same passage

likens the act to murder and idolatry.

Also prohibits a man from intentionally

arousing himself.

>> You skipped that.

>> Yeah, but these quotes from different

rabbis is nuts, dude.

>> Oh, these state

This states that if a man frequently

touches his penis with his hand in order

to check for ritually impure emission,

his hand ought to be cut off.

>> Yeah. Then they're having this

conversation about it.

>> Yeah. But look at this. With regard to

anyone who holds his penis and urinates,

it is considered as though he is

bringing a flood to the world.

>> What?

>> And someone who admits semen for not is

liable to receive the punishment of

death at the hand of heaven. As is

stated with regard to Onan.

>> What? Whoa. Jesus Christ. One who

intentionally causes himself an erection

shall be ostracized.

Imagine that. Bro, did you get hard? Get

the [ __ ] out of the village.

>> Get out of here.

>> Get out of here.

>> For a second, I thought you were asking

me if I'm reading this. I was like,

>> that one scene

>> you're obligated to fast 84 times to

repent for discharging of semen and

vain.

>> 84 times. Like 84 days. Like you owe 84

days for each time you nut.

>> You have to plan it out, bro. You could

starve to death. I was taught that

>> 84 is nuts. That's a crazy amount for

one load.

>> The really crazy thing to me is they're

like, "Don't hold your dick to piss."

>> Yeah. You just piss all over your shoes.

>> Well, it's cuz it leads to depression,

obviously. So,

>> masturbation leads to depression.

>> It's the only way to avoid it.

>> And the effects of impure ejaculation,

ejaculation, can only be nullified

through the recitation of how's what's

that word? Tunai.

>> Hakali.

>> Haklai. Hakali. Hak hackali

>> hackali

ask Ari. Jesus Christ. So there's

nothing in there about demons.

>> Not well. So like you could I don't

think that's what I was typing in. But

uh it's mostly about wasting that sperm.

>> Don't waste that seed.

>> Yeah, man.

>> Let's see here. I'll get Ari to find out

what it is.

>> Call Ari the wanderer.