One of the

biggest blessings

in your life

is growing pains.

One of the biggest blessings is going

through a time where you are feeling at

your lowest or depressed or whatever the

feeling is because

that is just confirmation that you're

not in alignment and that you're meant

for something different or you're meant

for something more, something greater.

You know, if you were satisfied with

where you're at, then that just is what

it is and you know, you probably

wouldn't even be depressed. But because

you are, because you feel a certain way

or like you're not all the way there,

that is just confirmation that you are

truly truly meant for more or something

different. So, to me, I think that when

you recognize

uh okay, you know, once you start

recognizing things of that nature, you

could say, "Okay, what's the first step

of getting out of this?" And you're

letting go of all the baggage that is is

holding and weighing you down. I used to

be like that. I used to be like when

things don't go my way, I'm terrible.

Oh, this doesn't happen the way I wanted

it to or the way I saw it, you know, my

whole mood is shot, right? And I'm not

not to say that things don't affect me

when they don't go my way, but I have

the armor on now. I know how to deal

with it. I know how to get over it and

get back to it.

>> Mhm.

>> That's how a lot of my heroes deal with

things too, you know, when you think of

like Denzel Washington. Like say he has

a new movie out. Say the movie does

amazing and it's incredible and he wins

an Oscar. Say the movie comes out and it

bombs or it doesn't do as well. He's not

going to give up and quit. It's not

going to ruin his life. He's going to

move on to the next thing and step and

and use that to the power of separation

to me, you know, that's a real thing.

>> I remember my football coach growing up

gave me this piece of advice and it

stayed with me ever since then. He would

say to us, "If you lose, cry for a

night."

>> Yeah.

>> And he goes, "If you win, celebrate for

a night,

>> Mhm.

>> but then get back to training."

>> That's right.

>> you lose, cry for a night, but then get

back to training. And if you win,

celebrate for a night and get back to

training. It was always about getting

back to training the next day.

>> Yeah.

>> He was like, "You can't just sit there

and cry for a week

>> Mhm.

>> or cry for a month. And you can't, in

the same way, celebrate for a month. You

can't just live off your past success.

>> That's right.

>> Get back to training. And I love that

mindset. Someone was asking me

>> mindset almost, right?

>> Yeah, yeah. For sh- Go on.

>> You know, I know you got a chance to

talk to Kobe before, and um I have

actually got a chance to talk to him as

well, and

you know, he's he's incredible, and his

mindset was something that I admired so

much. And I I got a chance to talk to

him literally

a few months before he passed.

And he was just telling me about how he

meditates and what it does for him,

right? And I just resonated with that so

much.

>> I think what resonated with me most

about him is that he was at peace in

retirement.

>> Mhm.

>> And athletes who are retired

>> I know.

>> don't always find peace because

naturally it was so important to be on

the field.

>> Right, right.

>> And so, no judgement towards anyone, but

it's so hard to not be on the court

anymore

>> Mhm.

>> and not miss it and want to be there.

And he had found a new purpose. And

that's the most interesting thing is

that you don't get to peace by

pursuing it, and you don't get to peace

by trying to pursue more prizes and more

wins.

>> Yeah.

>> You get to peace by finding your

purpose, and that's what he did.

>> Mhm.

>> And so, I want to talk about in your

book, cuz you really give people these

five practices.

>> Yeah, yeah.

>> And and I love that you start at accept

>> Mhm.

>> because I think even though it's a hard

step, it's such an important step. This

idea that your journey only begins when

you accept that where you are is your

starting point.

>> Mhm.

>> That your experience have made you

exactly who you're meant to be with the

skills, the talents, the gifts. So, if

someone's sitting and listening going,

"Sean, that's so hard for me to accept

that I am where I need to be because my

life's just been full of

you know, the worst, horrible, difficult

things. How do I accept and start from

there?" What would you say to them?

>> I would say that I I understand some

people's lives are not ideal. I'm

someone who

uh has seen that, experienced that, can

relate to that first hand, and what I

can say is that when you accept it, that

doesn't mean

that

you are giving up.

Those are two different things.

Accepting it just means, "Okay, I'm

ready to go somewhere else, and I'm

thankful for all the the all that this

has taught me, all of this has brought

me. I accept where I'm at, but I know

I'm made for something else. I know I'm

made to go to go higher, right? But no,

but really I'm made to to be

somewhere else in the world, some you

know, and I think that until you accept

that, you can't move forward because

you're just in the middle of it. And I

think when you accept something, that's

how you get ahead of it.

>> Yeah. Yeah, I I agree. I feel like

it's the resistance to acceptance that

blocks us.

>> Exactly.

>> like when we're fighting

Yeah, when we're fighting

we're going in the opposite direction.

It's like it's telling you it's going in

this direction.

>> Mhm.

>> And you're trying to force it to go in

the other direction, and that's what's

causing tension. And accepting it means,

like you said, not that you're giving up

and you're like, "All right, well, I'll

just do what you want." It's going, "No,

this is how it's flowing.

>> Mhm.

>> Now, what am I going to do?"

>> There's always a like thread of where

you are to where you desire to be at, no

matter on what situation. There's never

not a way.

Or else you wouldn't feel it, or else

you wouldn't be have a desire for it.

But it wouldn't even be in your

consciousness.

>> You know what I mean? Like I don't have

a desire to go to Saturn because I'm

that's just not in my thing, right? But

I have a desire to The things that I've

had a desire to, I always knew that

there was a way. So always know that no

matter what opportunity you're in,

against the impossible odds

or against odds, you know, whatever it

is, you always have your way to get to

where you are. There's always a thread

leading you. And there are maybe

multiple threads. So never be down and

out and think that it's impossible. It's

really not. I mean

Mission Impossible is is a movie that

where he defines impossible missions,

you know? But my point is is like

there's nothing that's impossible for

you. It's all meant for you.

>> Yeah.

>> And it's it's up to you. You know, one

of my favorite quotes is, "Every day I

wake up, I'm one day closer to death. So

what you going to do with the time you

got left?" It's like understand that

this is

our time right now. The moment is now.

These moments we only have the moment.

So a lot of us live in the future and a

lot of us live in the past. And that's

something that we have to get out of the

habit of. And I think when you accept

where you are, you're kind of letting go

of that and making an action plan to

putting your attention on your

intention. And you of course you have

idea where you would like to be, but God

doesn't always give us what we want. God

gives us what we need. And sometimes

those are the same thing and sometimes

they're not.

>> Yeah.

>> And

it it it all works out, you know?

>> Yeah, for sure. What what's the uh

you know, when you're manifesting as

we're talking about this, like finding

your path, what's the difference between

attracting energy and chasing energy?

>> Oh, boy.

>> [laughter]

>> Attracting energy and chasing energy,

well, like I said

>> [sighs]

>> uh when you're chasing something, you're

already implementing the energy of

it running away from you.

You know what I mean?

And I just say you can't get it, but

it's a lot of effort to chase something.

It's like even police on a high-speed

chase is like they might have to crash

into other cars and they're chasing you.

And when you attract something,

it's uh you are using the powers that

have been granted to you from God,

universe, whatever you call it or

believe in

of

it magnetizing to you and you have that

power. It's been the power that's been

you know, we use it on a level on small

levels every day. Even if you just said

in a sec, "Hey, I'm today I need to take

a shower." That's literally you set a

goal, you did it, it's done.

You can do that on a scale of anything

that that happens. And some things may

take a lot more time than others.

You know, we all we have these ideas and

expectations we set for ourselves, but

that's on us, you know? That's our ego

sometimes. That's our

our you know, wants and desires and our

minds sometimes getting the best of us.

And I think that things do take time,

but there's always a way.

And

you know, it's you can never count

yourself out.

>> Mhm. What's been the most difficult

thing you've ever had to accept?

>> The most difficult thing that I've ever

had to accept is that I the things that

I can't control.

>> Mhm.

>> I used to let the things that I can't

control control me.

>> Give me an example like

>> how someone perceives your art.

>> Mhm.

>> As a artist, like Erykah Badu says,

we're emotional about our you

know? I think she said something like

that.

>> Yeah.

>> That never changes.

But you can't control how someone

perceives you, you know? All you can do

is put

First of all, to make something, to

write something, to

have an idea and it actualize it is like

that is really the win for real. I'm not

just saying that. Like, that is like,

come on. You know what I mean?

You literally manifested something. How

people consume it,

if you impact anyone, you that's

literally a a bonus to it. You know,

that's why we do it, but that's

that's you literally changing the world.

So, that one thing I've had to accept is

like, yeah, how people

like, I can't control what people think

of me, their perceptions of me. And when

I try and control that, it takes me off

of my path that I'm on, of where I need

to go.

>> Yeah.

>> You know? So, that's been that's that's

that is something hard, and you have to

separate. Like that said, that power of

separation of

um

doing what you love to do, and not tied

it into how people perceive it.

>> Yeah.

>> Those are two separate things.

>> Which is so hard.

>> It is.

>> It's so hard, isn't it? And and I loved

what you said, that

when you get fixated on what other

people think of you,

>> Mhm.

>> you're just getting distracted from your

path.

>> Of course.

>> you're placing energy on and then you

might even shift what you're doing to

try and appease them, and then they

still won't like it.

>> Mhm.

>> And that's the craziest part, right? You

do what you want,

>> Mhm.

>> and they don't like it.

>> Yeah.

>> And then you do what they want, and they

still don't like it.

>> And then you don't know who you are

anymore, and no one likes it, and you

don't like it either.

>> Yeah.

>> And you end up not liking yourself,

trying to get everyone else to like you.

>> And that's where you don't want to be

at.

>> where you don't want to be at.

>> you're kind of like back to a square one

posi- you know, position of like, okay,

having to reestablish yourself, and you

know, you got to be right with yourself

first.

So, you you you nailed it right on the

head, man. It's like,

you know, you can't you can't really do

live your life for other people.

I always say that's a business you'll

never be successful at, is the business

of trying to please everyone. And then

and when you do please everyone, it's

like, are you pleasing yourself?