what on Earth have you given me that is

how you can measure your nighttime

erections it's unbelievable in ways it

improves health and wellness Brian

Johnson is back the billionaire who's

spending $2 million a year to stay young

forever through algorithmic Precision

this is the most impactful humanitarian

project ever trying to find the very

best science in the world for how you

can extend your life and how's it been

going honestly I'm in the absolute Peak

Performance of my entire life I've

extended my lifespan over 30% reduced my

age by 12 years increased muscle and

strength and now 6 months of perfect

sleep I've accomplished the best sleep

score in history a demonstration of

human ability because if I can do it

everyone else can do it too every second

of every day we're all trying not to die

that's what we're doing as a society

right now it's not working very well but

if an algorithm could manage your health

and wellness for you and Achieve near

perfect health would you opt into that

because

we found it but what can the average

person do one thing that works

is really yeah it's like the super of

superfoods there you

go that is not how you're meant to have

that and what comes next The Best Is Yet

To Come Kate to Kate will you come on

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Brian you're now coming up on almost

three years since you started blueprint

which is your sort of anti-aging life

extending longevity protocol is that

accurate that's

accurate give me a overview of the

benefits you've been able to achieve in

those three

years I legitimately have never been

happier in my entire life why it's like

when you have a a series of bad nights

of sleep and you you're eating poorly

and you sleep poorly in a week or two

you just normalize to that new Norm you

don't realize what you've lost it just

becomes invisible to you and then when

you bounce back after a really great

night's sleep and you take care of

yourself you make the observation this

is the most remarkable thing ever I wish

wish I could exist like this all the

time and I've hit that state where I'm

in the absolute Peak Performance of my

entire life I've never been as well

rested I've never been as CL with uh

greater Clarity of mind I've

never uh been more calm emotionally yeah

you know I'm I'm not provoked I'm not

irritable things that I struggled with

before it's true that you don't know how

bad you felt until you feel good I can

relate it's dealing with oneself is uh

the most challenging thing this is from

my experience the most challenging thing

in my existence is understanding my own

self like uh trying to map out where I'm

self-aware and where I'm unaware where

my self-awareness ends and what I've

normalized to and can no longer see what

status quo hides from me what biases I

have in my brain what blind spots I have

I'm blind to so much of reality and I

just have no idea and the Brain plays

these tricks on us where we believe with

confidence that we have we're the master

of our reality that we see all things we

feel all things that if something's

missing we're going to note it but

really my life has become trying to find

out what's invisible to me what are some

of those psychological biases that you

think most people still don't realize

our our Illusions oh man it's like my

most favorite topic

because we are fooled into

thinking that we truly

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understand our situation our reality and

there's so many easy tricks one can play

even something simple like if you prime

somebody with words like uh grandma

grandmother or grandfather or things

that trigger thoughts of old age or

being slow and then you ask a person to

walk down the hallway to do a task those

who've been primed with old sounding

word old Rel uh Associated words and

young the old Associated walk more

slowly and the young walked qu quicker

we incorpor all these things into the

way we Act and the way we think and what

we internally uh generate and we just

it's beyond our awareness so for people

that don't know what the word priming

means essentially if you just say those

words to somebody if you say grandmother

or grandfather or old Associated elderly

Associated words to somebody in studies

they then walk slower I'm really

interested in the behavioral stuff

because I think most of us are governed

by a set of stories that we've come to

learn believe about ourselves that we've

probably learned from false evidence

along the way and we're now living our

lives in accordance with that false

instruction manual like there's a puppet

master pulling the strings telling me

that I am a entrepreneur that does a

podcast in that IMA I'm unorganized and

I'm you know whatever might be you know

yeah how does one go about understanding

that those words are governing our lives

but then also more importantly getting

rid of the the the power that they're

exerting over us there's a few things I

do on a daily basis to help me one I

read a book by Gary Becker the economics

of Life uh when I was uh 24 years old

and he would take any given topic like

poverty something that would be non you

wouldn't think that this thing relates

to math and economics it's just like

this so social phenomena that I would

have previously heard someone tell me a

story about and he would break them down

uh using economics and I thought that's

unreal a world understood through

numbers and graphs and models not

through stories no one's going to tell

me any story they're just going to lay

this out and I realize that there are

limitations of course to those things

like stories are embedded in those to

some extent however from the world I

came from where it was dominant on on

story to see that the world could be

objectively measured understood and

Quantified change my reality and so now

when I look at a given situation I try

to identify what is the numerical

representation of this thing what is the

mathematical formula what is the graph

that explains this phenomena not through

a story lens but like what actually are

what systems are at play so try to parse

through all the all the decoys that

would otherwise take me down a different

path and then secondarily is give me an

example of that what's an example I mean

so like uh what determines whether I

have high quality

sleep and most of the time in my

previously in my life my Sleep Quality

was something like a random I would go

to sleep and I would have no idea what

was impacting why I would get high

quality sleep or not and then I could

numerically back out that's what I've

done over the past few years is what

elements contribute to and how those

biological processes function and then

what happens when and you can map out

the entirety of that process last time

we we spoken I think you were on four

months of perfect

sleep where are you at now I completed

six months of perfect

sleep and what does perfect sleep mean

for 100% sleep score and that's judged

by uh my wearable by by whoop okay and

so before I did this nobody had achieved

that series of of 100% scores and many

people who who have had a device like

that for over a year have never once

achieved a 100% sleep score and what I

was trying to do was something akin to

like a 4minute mile or a milia aart

flying a plane across the Atlantic or

you know someone climbing Everest it was

basically a demonstration of human

ability that people didn't think was

possible and then once one person

demonstrates it it opens it up for

everyone else because if I can do it

everyone else knows they can do it too

and so I wanted to show that reliable

high quality sleep is achievable and

that if you do that it could potentially

give you the best cognitive and

emotional performance of your life do

you think there's a human being an adult

human being on planet Earth that's slept

better than you for the last 6 months

there's currently no one that has shared

data that has achieved that so so is if

we're just looking at the data alone

which is not an entire representation

then yeah I I've accomplished the best

sleep score in history pretty impressive

and for for just to recap so I'm I'm

clear because I know we discussed this

last time you go to bed at like 8 8:00

pm right 8:30 8:30 and your last meal of

the day is before midday that's right

11:00 a.m. 8:30 and you're still doing

that you're still going to bed at 8:30

every day that's right people are I feel

like this their sleep is getting worse

and worse in society with stimulants

that we consume the way we live our

lives devices destroy

sleep do you think sleep is the really

the foundation of daily performance

would you would you aim at that first if

you were someone that was trying to

start your journey to live

a a life more in line with your

long-term

goals sleep is the single most important

thing any human does on any given day

and if you look at it from a culture

identity standpoint people like you and

me who work hard at an entrepreneural

Endeavor there's this mythology that if

you sleep under your desk or you go days

without sleep you're a hero that people

will tell stories about you it's like

the old like I guess Viking mythology

where you you have these stories told

about your great deeds and so it's

almost like if you're a great

entrepreneur and if you want to be

respected by your peers and if you want

to achieve mythology

status you do that sleep deprivation

thing and so it's built so far into our

cultural identity so when people I know

when my friends who I act as a therapist

for many people who go through this

thing where they they don't realize why

they actually can't prioritize sleep and

then when we dig deep is that they have

these imaginations of the kind of person

they want to become and how they want

others to view them and they feel

trapped that if they don't complete the

mythology lore that they'll somehow be

less than and they won't achieve the

ranking among the social group and it's

all backwards the the the shift that's

appropriate is and it's happening

actually right now is that the person

who prioritizes sleep is going to be

higher performing they'll be more Lucid

they'll be they'll have better ideas

that people who don't sleep are

literally half dead they're actually

intoxicated they're impaired

physiologically physiologically they're

impaired explain that when you are sleep

deprived uh to a certain degree it is

equal to being Intoxicated by alcohol

you're

inebriated and so these are the people

who are leading organizations there are

groups of a large number of individuals

that

are expecting them to make high quality

decisions on behalf of the entire group

and it's those very people who are not

sleeping well and who are impaired in

their judgment it's backwards and so

this is it's a it's a good note to make

and this goes back to the first

conversation of what am I not aware of

if you're playing the script of social

norms of doing what people say and

you're not questioning them then you're

you're living a you're living in a p in

the past of antiquated ideas that are

hurtful to you like here's one more

example I was at a conf of the day and

the gentleman who was interviewing me

said hey who here thinks that you can

live forever and there was like two

people were

like who who here thinks you're going to

die and like everyone's hand shot up and

I was commenting to them that when when

you read

history who in a historical moment

actually understood what was happening

in that time and place you know 99% of

people

are living in the past they repeat the

things that people in the past had said

the future had already arrived so if

it's like the year

1634 the future already arrived in 1634

it's just the people there living during

that time frame don't know it they

hadn't seen it yet they hadn't been

exposed to it or maybe they exposed to

it but they thought it was crazy or the

person was a quack and so you're always

people are always living in the past and

so the same is true right now we are

living in the past the future is already

here the ideas and Technologies are out

there maybe you and I have seen it maybe

we can't maybe we encounter it maybe we

believe it maybe we don't but it's

definitely here right now and sleep is

one of those things where the future is

already here and people who are playing

the mythology of no sleep and under desk

and everything else they're living in

the past I think a lot of people

listening who do struggle with sleep do

believe in the importance of sleep at

least if you asked them they'd say they

did but for whatever reason you know

they might have sleep related

difficulties they might have insomnia

they might to lay in bed all night and

just feel anxious or whatever else and

it's those people that I I want to offer

some advice to the people that um yeah

they they work hard and stuff but they

just struggle with sleep yeah there's a

difference between the acknowledgement

that sleep may be good for you and like

you say like yeah I'm on board a good

sleep it's an entirely different

situation when you prioritize your life

around that which means if somebody's

like hey let's grab a drink sorry can my

bedtime at blank or if you're if you

find that you sleep better by having

earlier meals and then you're in a

social event you're like well I'm going

to eat anyways so it forces you to make

really hard decisions on your actual

lifestyle which it does it pits you

against social norms which are

uncomfortable we want to fit in we want

to have friends we want to be part of

the tribe so it it does really invite

but that every person who makes the

gesture who does it makes the tribe

stronger so when one one person's brave

enough to say actually I'm going to hit

the sack guys and like oh man you're

you're such a wuss while you doing that

hang out man like what's wrong with you

what like they they jokingly try to

belittle like it's kind of serious and

kind of not but every time somebody does

that and has the

courage there's several others in that

group who are like damn I now feel

empowered that I can say something and

that's the norm that's shifting but this

it's the same social dynamics in

whatever time you're in it's just

understanding that and not being owned

by it and then I guess the other the

other exception potentially is parents

that don't have yeah um child care

because I mean I've when I speak to

parents they always tell me they like

Steve listen when you have a kid you can

forget your no meetings before 11:00

a.m. Rule and your whoop HRV competition

yeah because when that baby cries at

3:00 a.m. you know and then at 4:00 a.m.

and then 5:00 a.m. you're just going to

be dragged through the mud with them so

that's true and having raised three kids

I can attest that that's true also you

can definitely establish a sleep culture

in your family where you can make it

understandable that once the child goes

to sleep at whatever age the expectation

is they're in their bedroom for that

entire duration of time absent something

a fire or them feeling threatened for

their life if it's because they lost

their PL their toy car under their bed

or it's because they can't find their

blankie none of that justifies leaving

the room and entering you know the

parents bedroom so there's definitely

things that can be done you're not

entirely powerless and you can make

meaningful improvements by setting the

standard for the entire family that

starts with the parents like what what

hygiene do they maintain and what do

they pass on to the children but it's

not entirely hopeless based on the way

you live your life now you must look at

people and see a whole lot of excuses

and a whole lack of responsibility

everywhere you go every tweet you get

every comment you see it must just to

you wreak of low responsibility cuz

you're someone that as you you said last

time has kind of given up control of

yourself to this blueprint which really

is the essence of um discipline is

completely surrendering to that do you

think people are lacking responsibility

and full of excuses about their

lives I mean who of us are not

that and like any of us who would dare

say otherwise are deceiving ourselves

and this is again a self-awareness is we

all are self-deception machines and

anyone who doesn't believe that is self-

deceiving do you still self- deceive

absolutely what are you still self-

deceiving yourself on you suspect I

wouldn't trust myself in my own Pantry

with a bunch of junk food that's why in

my house I can have I I've eliminated

all self harm there's just nothing I can

do because I don't trust

myself it's not like I you know I feel

like I've created so much discipline and

confidence like put it in front of me

and I won't do it even though I do it on

a daily basis where I'm in social

situations I don't put myself in that

environment but yeah I mean

I my goal is to find where I'm in error

in thought and action

constantly that's the that's the gem

that's the treasure chest is finding out

where you've

missed but you can know you've missed

somewhere I think about areas in my life

where I go I know what the right to do

is but for whatever reason I keep not

doing the right thing and I keep getting

the feedback yeah okay you you mess that

up Steve and then you know weak passes

and I might do the same thing

again the one game we all humans play

every human on the planet is playing is

don't die every second of every day

we're all trying not die not to die so

we look both ways before we cross the

street we have carbon monoxide detectors

we don't seek out we don't drink poison

you know on purpose like we we do all

these things to not die now the weird

thing though is I can look both ways

before I cross the street and also be

smoking a

cigarette and that's just the nuances of

the human mind but what I wanted to do

with blueprint is I wanted to say okay

if you really take do don't die to the

absolute extreme I'm going to measure

every biological process in my body and

find out where every cell is aging like

where basically where dying is happening

and then I'm going to identify all those

behaviors and I'm going going to try to

eliminate every Behavior

that contributes to don't dying so what

is possible in 2023 for the ultimate uh

effort of don't die on every front and

that means no excuses ever for anything

so a six-month sleep score like you

basically have to say this is in stone

it's not going to be changed under any

circumstance because I'm trying to prove

a point of what could be done with the

science in this moment funny when you

said about the cigarette example you'll

cross the road you'll look both ways to

make sure you don't get get hit by a

truck but you'll be smoking the way that

I interpreted that is okay we don't want

to die and we will want to sign up to

don't die but none of us want to sign up

to don't

live yeah with with living you're

mapping that to like some sensorial

pleasure like just some kind of yeah

some kind of pleasure whether it's

having a couple of cocktails or staying

up late and watching Netflix or whatever

it might be yeah and you're trying to

find the things that create the stimuli

that you you care about yeah I think

most people want to extend their life

but I I think they only want to extend

it as long as they can live within that

extension and obviously what you've

chosen to do is to extend your life and

make bigger sacrifices than the average

Jo would be prepared to make yeah the

the argument I'm making is in any other

time as a homo sapien I I completely

understand that thought process do your

thing the difference right now is we're

baby steps away from Super intelligence

which means for the first time in the

history of homo sapiens we may not die

and so I'm arguing that only in this

moment doesn't make sense to take these

Extreme Measures because before you can

easily say look I'm willing to trade 10

years of end life for this version of

life now reasonable understandable sure

but in this moment you may miss out on

the most spectacular existence in all of

history so why why do that for some

cheap thrill what's that spectacular

existence I might miss on um It's

Complicated definitely complicated to be

human uh when you look at the

capabilities of AI as it's emerging

there's reason to believe

that we are acquiring the ability to

engineer

reality we can

physically engineer atoms molecules

organisms we can

create experiences with with uh certain

chemicals we can program physical we can

program visual digital realities like we

have our fingers on the ability to

engineer and program the entirety of our

reality

increasingly that opens up a an expanse

of opportunity that is so far beyond our

imagination we can't even begin to

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promotion what are the um concerns

though if everybody gets older isn't

there going to be like huge disparities

in like wealth and stuff because I read

some stats that the global share of

wealth held by people over the age of 65

is increasing in 2020 people age 65 and

older held 35% of global wealth by 2050

they projected to hold almost 50% of

global wealth isn't it going to be the

case that if we're all living longer

you'd imagine like think about some of

the richest people in the world now they

would just acrw more and more wealth

older Generations would have more wealth

and younger Generations would mhm would

have very little there'd be this kind of

disparity within Society the 250 year

olds would all be like

billionaires yeah that's just an

engineering problem it's so it's public

policy so do you believe in like a

universal basic income where we'd hand

money to people I mean I don't think

it's not a reason to not want the future

it's not a reason to not want longevity

it's not a reason why we shouldn't

extend lives it's not a reason why

somebody should be deprived it's not

like if you're wealthy and you're old

you should die you know it's like it's

everyone's got this opportunity for life

and if there's a a very large disparity

it's getting worse it's a public policy

problem do you not think from like a

philosophical standpoint that death is

part of life I if you look at any sort

of Animal Kingdom Death is part of the

sort of natural attrition that creates

new Offspring new mutations new um

Energy new ideas I guess it has been the

system of intelligence that produced

us we have now taken the Reigns and we

are now the new system of intelligence

that's creating life going forward

when did we take the Reigns when we

started learning how to engineer biology

when we when we this is what I spent the

past 10 years doing is my observation

was after selling brry venmo it's

amazing that we have been able to create

the capability set in the digital world

you take a problem that can be solved by

people sitting down at a computer and

coding

software we can as a species we're

extraordinarily good at it millions and

millions of people that can do it and

solve problems very quickly if you take

a problem in the physical world like we

say the coral reef is dying around the

world which is creating a major problem

in these in oceans how do you make a

coral reef that is more robust to heat

or to Big you know variations you need

to have the same programmability of

programming of building a new coral reef

that can do that sort of thing if that's

a ano an approach to the problem we need

to have those abilities and so the goal

I had was we need this foundational Tech

techology so that any problem in the

physical world whether it be our health

the health of the oceans anything you

know building a Global biological immune

system we need to have these physical

abilities and so once you have that you

can program physical reality including

uh conscious States including the Earth

Health including our health and wellness

All Things become possibilities do are

you talking about Kel uh no my I had a

venture fund okay yeah what is Kel what

are you doing with kernel kernel is a a

way for us to use science and data to

build our best cognitive existence so

like for example it's easy for each of

us to to get on a scale and see our

weight and when we see weight is

climbing very quickly uh you know we

think that's not a good situation

because that leads to bad Health

outcomes I don't feel great and so

there's like a a it's a good feedback

mechanism for how am I doing with my

health with my weight we don't have the

same equivalent for our brains you can

get MRI or you can get a pet scan

they're great but they're hard to get

they are expensive uh it's very

laborious to actually do it we need to

be able to acquire information about our

brains as easy as it is to step on a

scale and get our weight and that's what

we built a kernel is the bike helmet you

put it on your head and you find out

important information about your brain I

had my brain scanned last week have you

seen your brain of course you've seen

your brain yeah did you find out

anything about your brain uh I did well

I wanted to demonstrate that you could

ask a question what happens when and

then take a given thing about the brain

like what happens when I do a

psychedelic what happens when I play a

game what happens when I don't sleep

well what happens when and all the

things we do that affects our brain and

in this case I was a pilot participant

for ketamine so we run a 15 person

ketamine study ketamine is a

anesthetic also used to tranquilize

horses also a party drug and so I

received a dose of in of ketamine in my

arm and then I was in that experience

for 45 minutes and what we saw was

interesting that I had my brain measured

for 10 minutes a day for 5 days before

during the camine experience then five

then uh 14 days afterwards and I think

those the most interesting thing is my

brain patterns like if you think about

the patterns like imagine you're looking

at Planet Earth and there's airports all

over the Earth and you're seeing traffic

patterns between each airport so between

Tokyo and New York there's a lot of

traffic London New York a lot of traffic

but between you know smaller cities you

have just a few planes here and there

there's big traffic patterns in our

brains of where activity is happening

and those patterns tell you things about

yourself like sounds like you had some

analysis done and when I did K when I

did the five days of measurement my

patterns of my brain were stable every

single day they were the same the same

traffic from the same place to and from

and then when I did ketamine it

scrambled all of my

patterns it's like you took the globe

and you just like remapped where all the

airports were and like okay Planes start

flying and then over on like day three

four my pattern started forming again

back in a similar way and so there was

that two to like one to 3 Day

therapeutic window where I was very open

to new pattern creation and it was

there's this joke among my colleagues

where we were walking from one meeting

to another and there was a wall that was

in front of us and I it was day two

after I took ketamine and I thought I'm

going to jump over the wall like that

seems like a fun idea why not so I just

spontaneously jumped over the wall and

then all my colleagues were like

what are you doing we're in a work

environment we don't jump over walls and

I hadn't thought about it in that frame

but I wonder if in that moment I was

open to doing something different and

unique that I normally wouldn't have

done because I had this opening but it

was cool to see my

patterns where they were how they

changed and how they reformed in some

kind of window that opened up as how I

could remap my own experience I mean

that's probably a pretty compelling case

for psychedelics as it relates to mental

health and you know if we think of some

mental disorders as being stuck in

patterns patterns of thinking patterns

of belief patterns of

behavior um there's been quite

incredible clinical studies done to show

the impact that something like

psilocybin or Iain can have on addiction

or

depression what's your view on

psychedelics they're powerful yeah and I

hope that konel accelerates their

progress because most of the the

measurements are done through

questionnaires you're asking the person

how they felt how they felt and their

perspective but we know that our

subjective experiences are not terribly

reliable like when I after I had

ketamine if I were to use words to

explain what I experience I don't know

if I'm asked on day three how I felt in

day one it's hard to remember now you

can journal and try to make uh more

detailed notes but it's really hard to

subjectively account for your brain and

so having a a a system that tracks the

data removes some of that challenge and

could help Usher in uh psychedelics for

uh much broader adoption much faster

because you've got data to support what

you're trying to demonstrate have you

tried all the

psychedelics um I

asker I've had some

experiences

mushrooms I've done mushrooms what' you

think really interesting experience did

it did it change your

your opinion or your

perspective of your own mind yes yes um

I was overseas I think I was in Peru or

something and I was at a mushroom

ceremony whatever and i' taken the

treatment that the Sharman or whatever

had given me and I didn't think it was

working so I went over and sat down on

my

laptop yeah really [ __ ] bad idea and

I for whatever reason and this is so on

me I clicked on like Netflix because

everyone was over there and they were

all having their experience I thought

I'll just I'll just watch something on

Netflix and I don't watch I didn't even

watch Netflix I clicked something on

Netflix and as I'm watching it it's like

some I don't know some reality TV thing

and it just becomes really apparent to

me that these people's values that I'm

watching are like really bad they're all

like bitching about each other and

they're all being mean to each other and

at that very moment the world started to

just Spin and shake and I put the laptop

away and went and joined the gang wrote

about 35 notes of um

of handwriting again I never write with

my hands about connection and in that

moment I learned that like my perception

on reality is so

fragile and so what what do I believe

you know if if this experience that I'm

having with you now this perception of

reality is that fragile that one little

capsule that I eat can just shake it all

then Jesus

is I can't trust much can I I love that

so

much that's so beautiful

like what do we really know about

anything and like you said like this one

little plant and you eat it you ingest

it and then somehow your reality is

absolutely transformed into something

that you never imagined was

possible but then you come right back

you do and this is also this is the the

frame around like don't die so I

understand before our time and place

right now like in the 19th century sure

do your thing because you're going to

die and that's fine but right now I

guess with your your mushroom

experience do you feel open to the

idea that we may acquire new

capabilities of conscious experience

creation that could make your reality

more

interesting and more worthwhile like

whatever than anything you could ever

imagine yes but also could not sure cuz

I just don't know so again it goes back

to like it's hard for people to bet on

uncertainty in their lives yes you know

people don't who wants to bet on I don't

know interesting are you basically

impartial I'm kind of good with what

life's like now I think life's quite

cool now I think I think I still feel

like I'm

bending Reality by the way that I like

live my life and the things I've

achieved and I still feel like I've got

more Mountains to climb in my life and

higher Peaks to see

so you see what I'm saying yeah so it's

not really about a a dissatisfaction so

much now as the driver it's that the

possibilities are a motivator that you

if you

say um there just the possibility

some something you've not experienced a

new reality you could experience like

some we're walking into the Cradle of

super

intelligence okay so let's define super

intelligence just in case someone's lost

us along the way okay when you say super

intelligence you're talking about like

artificial intelligence and computers

that

are you know infinitely more intelligent

than we are and how we can interface

with that intelligence to bring make our

lives and our decisions and our

capabilities better that's right like

the computational Intelligence on near

future

timelines are going to be far superior

to our form of intelligence like how and

when and what forms no one knows but if

you look at the trajectory of the speed

it's fast it's it's faster than our

minds can comprehend and so if we

whatever comparison you want to make

like whether you know an ant relative to

us or whatever the version is or

homoerectus to us I don't we don't know

those details on what their experience

is but if if you just try to like think

about the scale of intelligence and what

that experience may be like even though

we don't know but you your response is

uh informative for me I have a bias and

this goes back to my

blindness I think this idea of walking

into the Cradle of artificial super

intelligence and the ability to engineer

all of

reality is the coolest

opportunity maybe in the known Galaxy

what's the most compelling argument

you've heard against your do not die

position the one that troubles you the

most I'm entirely unconvinced by any

argument that I've ever heard about

it are you entirely convinced by the Do

Not Die argument I'm convinced uh

through the thought experiment I did if

I if I try to transport myself to the

25th

Century and of course they have a sober

a detached cold soberness objective

soberness looking back at the 21st

century that we don't just like we look

back in history and we can see with

Clarity what we're so caught up in this

moment we're blinded by so many of these

realities and they would look back I'm

convinced by my thought experiment that

they look back and be like of course in

the early 21st century Homo sapiens

figured out that they had developed the

technology to continually expand their

life and

that like the homo sapian culture

shifted to the preservation of life

whereas right now we're all on the death

track and then we play all the fun games

along the death track but it's we just

you have to shift the entire

Zeitgeist where we we do the exact

opposite of what we're doing today in

instead of embracing and celebrating

death rituals we move entirely to life

extension rituals do you think like

living forever is possible or even

reverse reversing age yeah I mean I so

basically with all the arguments I come

down to this

idea uh this is a kin to us to us

interviewing Homo rectus a million years

ago and asking Homo rectus to make

observations on what it's going to be

like to be Homo sapiens a million years

later have our kind of cognition have

our

technology Homo rectus would have

nothing like almost nothing useful to

say do we care what they want or don't

want what they're scared of do we value

it in any way like it's interesting from

just an observational perspective but do

we really think that Homo rectus has

wisdom of some sort that would allow us

to um yeah to step into this existence

that's where I think we're at now is

like we're

basically we're sufficiently primitive

in our thought I don't believe in

anything we say as it relates to the to

the Future because the intelligence

we're walking into is so far superior to

ours why would we even

begin to imagine that we can express an

opinion that is Meaningful do you see it

almost like we're walking into a

different species of human entirely I

mean unquestionably that's happening one

of the really interesting things that's

going on is this thing called

crisper genetic

engineering what is what is that crisper

genetic engineering I know you did um

you did some kind of DNA therapy didn't

you I did I did my first gene therapy

gene therapy yeah yeah what is what is

all of that and what's the promise that

it holds for us crisper genetic

engineering and what was your gene

therapy yeah currently there's a ceiling

on human lifespan like 120 or so that if

you if you uh live a life a certain way

and you're given a genetic Lottery then

you can do that but to punch through 120

is very difficult through lifestyle and

diet and exercise and so to to Really

punch through this ceiling you need to

start working at the genetic level and

so whether you're doing there's gene

therapy whether you're doing crisper

there's a variety of ways you can start

modifying uh your genetic code and this

has the power or potential to punch

through the ceiling so explain that to

an idiot gene therapy is injecting genes

into you someone else's genes genes that

have been made in a laboratory or yeah

so this one is I just got two injections

on either side in my obliques here and

uh what it does is it expresses the

protein full Statin and so basically I

before I have a certain level I'm like

like eight or nine and once you get the

therapy you're higher like 20s 30s 40s

and so it's just increasing it's

increasing the amount of f Statin in my

body and so like one way to understand

this is when you work out M Statin um

lessens the amount of muscle growth that

can happen F Statin suppresses M Statin

so you have more muscle mass but it has

a whole bunch of other effects as well

this gene therapy didn't change my

actual genes it just increases the

expression of f Statin in my body and

how do you know if it works uh measure

them so yeah I do routine well so

there's a few things we're doing uh

we're measuring this via my blood what

are my full stat levels before and after

and then we're also measuring my body

with MRI and so because I'm the most

measured person in history we have this

interesting vantage point where we can

see across my entire body body from my

muscle and my um my fat and Bone and

speed and DNA methylation patterns from

my speed of Aging to my brain health

like working at hundreds and hundreds of

data points to see what effect it has

and have you found an effect yet uh our

first results are coming back next week

someone like me who is you know on the

High Street per se what are the

supplements that are on the High Street

that that do actually work for

anti-aging cuz people talk about NAD

plus and stuff

there's all these clinics now popping up

all over London where you can sit in the

chair for 2 hours and have the little

drip in your arm and stuff and I did it

once um cuz my friend had opened a a

place and I had a very hot chest yeah

like a burning feeling in my chest I

don't know if it's done anything for me

so I've just got it goes back to what I

said earlier you just got to kind of

believe in it or not like a religion

yeah yeah I mean it's best to measure it

so you're trying to change your

intracellular NAD I'm sure other people

have done measured it though so does it

work uh the the drips don't the drips

don't work you you want sustained levels

of NAD and so we yeah so I mean we

extensively measure my Ned levels and

we've tested nmn we've tested NR we've

looked at all the different modalities

you want sustained levels so my levels

when I first started I think they were

equivalent of something like 47 years of

age and now they're reliably age 18 like

I have that much I have age 18 levels of

NAD intracellular NAD and we dialed that

dosage in because I was able to measure

it and the the challenge of course is

when you do these things haphazardly get

a drip or whatever it's what you're

saying it's a story it's a market clever

marketing it's happy faces it's what

your friends are doing but it's not

based on any reality you need to see it

working in your body otherwise you know

be careful and when you're doing it so

the only reason it doesn't work is

because it's not sustained but it would

work if it was sustained so if I did

that every week then it would work you

also have to consider the halflife okay

so I I don't know all the data on the

drips I know the data much better on nmn

and NR but those things then you take

them orally yeah orally every day twice

a day yeah twice a day and those things

work yeah yeah they

reliably maintain my NAD My IC NAD

levels uh at a 18-year old

level what are some of those big um

anti-aging Therapies

or businesses or supplements that most

people have just thrown themselves into

or habits in terms of longevity habits

that are just a load of BS I mean most

everything really

yeah yeah give me some examples we I

mean everything listed on the the

blueprint website

is three years of our effort to try to

figure out what has scientific evidence

what can we do in me and measure it and

then communicate that out yeah cuz I I

want to make sure I avoid false

advertising right I got sucker down to

do that Bloody NAD drip thinking I was

going to be an 18-year-old that's right

so I don't want to do that again what do

I need to avoid I mean for example one

thing that works is extra virgin olive

oil well here's one I brought with me

out

here yeah so you sent me this um I did I

sent you that in the post yeah I mean so

we we tried

to for anybody that can't see I've got a

a bottle of extra virgin olive oil that

Brian had sent me about a month ago it

says on the front blueprint Brian

Johnson Ultra Premium extra virgin olive

oil completely all Black Bottle it looks

like a wine bottle oh on the back of it

it says with the goal of slowing his

speed of Aging Brian Johnson allocates

15% of his precise daily car calorific

budget to this extra virgin olive

oil it is rich in polyphenols which

studies show can potentially Safeguard

against against various cancers

cardiovascular diseases diabetes and

neurodegenerative conditions by

providing better reduction of oxidized

LDL than regular Evo extravaginal olive

oil

interesting so that's the question you

know if

you what things can I do in my life that

are easy and actionable and have a high

impact extra verion olive oil is very

close to number one really MH why

because of all the things it says on the

back yeah when you there you

go that's not how you're meant to have

that it's spicy yeah you put some pepper

in there it that's what premium olive

oil tastes like it's it's it's good oil

it's good virgin olive oil but nobody

should it's not nice to drink extra oh

it feels

quite it's very um it's quite thick and

smooth

mhm interesting yeah peppery and smooth

if you look at the evidence we we just

shared about what this does it's

unbelievable uh in the ways it improves

health and wellness it's better than

OIC really it is okay so explain what

exemp exemp is that's the diabetes drug

that people using to lose weight yeah so

like OIC is like the fire

alarm and so for example there's a study

where people lost 5.2 lbs uh taking Evo

consuming Evo for 9

weeks in addition to what they're

currently eating yeah yep and when you

say taking what do you mean just

sprinkling on top of my food or yeah the

I think the quantity for that study was

I think uh 45 ml daily or or something

like that it's between 45 and between 30

and 60 MLS daily but there's things for

example like it it uh reduces by over

60% uh invasive breast cancer it reduces

your your uh blood sugar levels by 60%

post a Mill and your oxidize LDL levels

these are the this is the bad thing your

body that's causing damage by 80% post a

mill so I have a tablespoon with every

single mill and it's yeah it's like the

super of

superfoods and the problem is most of

the olive oil in the world does not meet

the quality thresholds to make it useful

so you think you're consuming olive oil

that's actually doing the have the

health benefits if it doesn't meet very

specific criteria it won't do it for you

so where do we get it this is what I

tried this is why I solved it because

like we basically trying to find a olive

oil that you can verify meets the specs

is very challenging so we we built a

supply chain across both hemispheres to

acquire the best olive oil in the world

to make it just easy you can trust it

the data is shared and the health

benefits are um supported by

evidence and this is available online

mhm yeah everyone can buy this

yeah it's exciting but that's an easy

one to do go to bed on time and drink

your olive oil you've got something down

there on the floor but you would tell me

what it was what is it yeah I brought

you two things today

okay one I I brought you a test okay

what is it this test okay that's the

test it's your speed of Aging test oh

[ __ ] so you should everybody should know

three things you know how much you weigh

how fast you're aging mhm

and the duration of your nighttime

erections is that what the other thing

that's the other advice oh [ __ ] so

basically y so both these are going to

give

you a good Baseline with where you're at

in

life so how do I how do I do how do I do

this I I can admin wait yeah I can

administer that test for you if you want

so I what it requires is prick your

finger yeah get get a little blood yeah

put it on the card yeah and then we'll

send it to the processing to the to the

um the center where they're going to

process it you'll get your results back

and it will tell you how fast your aging

clock is

internally how does it know that from a

prick of blood uh because your body

leaves chemical signatures that reveal

the data okay and then I can reverse

that presumably yes you yes exactly so

if you let's you get a result back and

let's just say it's one so you're aging

like a normal person would average

person you could potentially slow your

speed of Aging to 6 which means while

all of your friends are aging at a

normal rate you would get September

October November and December for free

I'd love that yeah

how olive oil good sleep exercise a good

diet don't smoke basic stuff basic stuff

and what is this other contraption that

you that is how you can measure your

nighttime

directions I mean where am I going to

put that yeah so

you you put it on your

shaft and just gently yeah there you go

gently pull that and so you put there

you go put on the

mic yeah mine's a little bit bigger and

he do have you got a bigger

one yep and then you put it on the on

the

base and you put on and you you think

you presume that it's going to be an

irritation it's going to bother you

you're going to feel it once you put it

on and you go to sleep you can't feel it

you don't what does it like vibrate in

the night or something so yeah no

there's no vibration but you you have

erections throughout the night yeah and

when you become erect the expansion of

your penis will be captured by that

device and it will

show how many erections you had and for

what duration and what strength

and all I've got you so you put your you

put your you go to sleep you put your

penis inside it like like that and

then when you have an erection during

the night it'll expand and log it yes

and it'll keep logging every time you

have an erection in the night that's

right and then will tell you you had

four erections tonight that during that

duration of sleep they were 47 minutes

31 minutes 55 minutes and whatever and

of this strength of this quality

erection type and then this data it's

really important because it represents

psychological Health Sexual Health uh

cardiovascular health is basically

people are not familiar you can go to

the gym and build big biceps or whatever

but people are not familiar that

nighttime erections are actually a

meaningful Health indicator and so

you've been me measuring your nighttime

erections and what have you found out

and have have you been able to improve

it yeah my my average right now is 2

hours and 12 minutes so you're wrecked

at night for 2 hours and 12 minutes yes

what are you dreaming about for so the

thing is we're not aware of our

erections most the

time and so uh my my current erection

amount is equal to roughly my

chronological age for me to be equal to

an 18-year-old I would need 3 hours and

30 minutes interesting of nighttime

erection so that's the goal we're trying

to achieve is is we're basically I mean

no one's ever done this before we're

trying to figure out can you improve

nighttime

erection you put this on your penis

every night no just in I'll do it three

to five days in a row so most most

nights of the week you'll put this on

your penis I'm sorry so I'll do for

example in like oh okay like for one

month in like a month or two months I'll

do like three to five and it depends on

what therapies we're doing and so what I

coupled up with that is uh we're trying

to come on Brian grow

out I'm just playing with it it's just

interesting yeah uh I coupled this up

with shock focused shock wave

therapy and so there's this technology

you have a wand and you sit in a chair

and then the the technician uses the

wand and basically shocks your

penis through through the acoustic

technology and it's like it does the

same thing as workouts doing where

you're creating micro injuries so then

it rebuilds

and so this technology is used for all

over the entire body if you're trying to

heal an ACL or you're trying to

rejuvenate the knees the joints

shoulders so it's a technology that has

a broad range of applications it's also

used for retile dysfunction so while my

scores are I have no sexual dysfunction

I'm I score perfect in every category

we're wondering if you take this therapy

this Focus shock wave therapy and if it

will just basically rejuvenate the penis

and increase nighttime erections

is there any early evidence that that's

working uh yes I've been

shocked by the results I'm now two

months in it's my subjective experience

is it's as

if my penis has gotten like 15 years

younger so we're still in the early

stages we still need to measure we need

Data before we're going to believe

anything

subjectively I'm in when you say when

you say shock do you mean a painful

shock or is it like a you know like a

the kind of shock you you'd pay

for like a tell me more is it like a

nice feeling is it like a vibration or

is it like a uh is it painful it's

painful yeah you you need to be focused

uh like you need to do pain management

yeah it's it's uh it's like uh maybe a

seven out of 10 but then once you get to

the tip it's like oh no they got suck

the whole thing yeah it's like a n out

of 10 because you the tip you have

improved sensitivity so it generates in

addition to what we're trying to do with

the nighttime erections it also improves

um erection strength and orgasm

pleasurability so it has all kinds of

benefits I'm trying to figure out

physiologically what's going on there so

you shock the penis you give a big

electric shock to the penis and then it

rebuilds like a muscle would yes and

that causes it to be more effective

going forward yeah yeah it's it's a yeah

acoustic technology so it's not like an

electrical

shock I this kind of brings I guess this

brings me in part to the thing you use

on your abs the 20K setup machine thing

I I when I was younger in my house I

think my mom bought it in a catalog she

had one of those machines that she put

on her abdomen and it gave her an

electric shock like and it like kind of

vibrated and I just always thought it

was BS yeah I thought the whole industry

was just BS people feel like it's doing

something so they think they're going to

get abs but you've got like a really

extensive impressive machine that does a

similar thing mhm yeah using

electromagnetic uh frequency yeah and it

works it does how' you know uh We've

looked at it with

MRI and the muscles are being like

broken down and regenerated from the

electric shock yeah yeah we

cheating

um so you've got have you got a

six-pack I suppose it's defined to some

extent you're going to have to show us

with your permission of course we don't

force people to undress on this show

yeah yeah yeah I mean I don't know

like yeah you've got yeah yeah I won't

show mine not right now I've been in I

showed you mine yeah but it's

it's you've been doing this for three

years it's fine yeah I'm new I'm going

to work my way up with the penis shock

thing and then I'll but can can you

imagine being in a conversation and

everyone else knows their erection the

night time erections and you don't like

can you imagine the embarrassment You'

feel

no I can't imagine no one I know knows

how long

they're I'm playing I'm playing I I'm

playing because it's like it's of course

it's a novel idea nobody measures their

erection so it's not part of a social

Norm but you can imagine the humor of

you finding someone having a a casual

conversation of like yeah I had a really

great night sleep last night new Peak

record on erection duration and and

Direction like no it's going to become a

thing I know it is because sexual health

and sexlessness in relationships and

libido are actually a really big Topic

at the moment for a lot of people I I've

been in relationships where there's been

libido issues and things like that and

I've got friends that have got libido

issues and sexual health issues and

things like that so it we we joke about

it but there it's not a joke for a lot

of people and it can lead to

relationships breaking down and families

breaking down and yeah so I don't I do

think it's a serious topic and if it

this therapy can help people get get

their erections back and bring their sex

life back then that's an amazing thing

yeah the yeah the testimonials of the

technology are pretty compelling uh

people with

Ed that it's it's causing a significant

problem of their own self-confidence of

their Partners it's a big deal like when

when you can't get erect it's a very big

problem your penis is 15 years younger

you believe I mean this is a a

subjective assessment it's just like you

know um as you age your body becomes

less firm and more saggy right across

muscle skin penis like you just lose

structure across your entire body and

it's improved the structure of my penis

your hair looks like it's changed as

well since we last spoke you look like

you've got a fuller head of

hair what's what's been going on there

the the protol I have is I do uh

platelet rich plasma every 30 to 60 days

so that that is the process where you

draw blood from a vein you spin it up

and you separate the blood from the

plasma you take the plasma and then we

add a

cell and dutasteride so it's a

concoction of plasma AEL dutasteride and

it's a total volume of between 13 15

milliliters and then it's injected

across the entire head or in the areas

that would be balding and then I also do

light therapy daily which we spoke about

uh wear that cap for 6 minutes and then

I have a nightly concoction that

includes a few things like moox

minoxidil and a few others this is all

on my website so the the recipe the

protocol it's all there for everybody

but yeah I mean I I started losing my

hair in my early 30s and it's it's

really hard to as a I mean with my

genetics it's very very hard for me to

maintain hair so I've had to work very

hard at it what is hair loss anyway why

does our hair recede what's going on it

and it doesn't happen in women yeah I

know you

typically uh yeah it's it's really quite

annoying that it's such a big

problem I wish I didn't have to pay

attention to it as much as I

do

why uh just requires constant

attention and it's

a

the technology is not that great yet you

know like you're you're basically trying

to slow the process you're trying to

improve follicle strength you're trying

to prevent future damage but it's not

like something like like a gene therapy

where I with two injections I your

levels go up three or 4X my the

production of that

critical uh biochemical in my body uh

it's not the case there now there's

technology people are working on for

cloning so you take a few of your

follicles you clone that and you re you

put them in so basically like doing a a

hair transplant but you're cloning

you're doing your own your own hair so

there's other technologies that are

emergent that are promising they it's

not a market yet so yeah it's it's hard

and it's like being as a man being bald

is a meaningful thing right like it's a

significant psychological situation so

if you if you TI through the issues of

be of like a man would really struggle

with psychologically you know being bald

not being able to have erections like

those those are like two of your top

five things and so is you know I hope

that the things I talk about publicly

help break the stigma around it so that

uh people feel hope they can do

something about it they don't have to

hide it it's it's challenging and it's

heavy to deal with it what do you think

about air quality I've been thinking a

lot about this I had James Nester on

this podcast he was talking to me about

the harm of like in room CO2 and stuff

like

that yeah I agree uh my house is I have

devices around the entire house

measuring those things every moment of

every day and I have air filters in

every room and so the qu air quality in

my house is pristine in Los Angeles the

air quality is not great and so I

typically will avoid significant outdoor

activities on days where the air quality

is particularly bad but I'm always aware

of it so I have monitors in my house

that tell me the outdoor air quality and

the indoor air quality in every room

what's the harm that you're trying to

avoid

uh it's damaging there's like the the uh

the P2

2.5 uh there's a few things that are

very damaging and they can get lodged

for example in your lungs and it's very

hard to get it out so there's a lot of

sustained damage that's just hard to

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now okay so Brian who is hate to

you uh

Kate had the pioneering

spirit that helped give birth to

blueprint we we began working together

at kernel uh we were focused on

measuring the brain and how humans could

co-evolve with AI and we started talking

about the possibilities of what

blueprint could be we were the project

was underway and we were trying to

figure out how we could communicate this

and Kate saw the potential immediately

and has been building this with me for

several years why did you decide to work

with Brian and why did you decide to

develop

blueprint I grew up in a very small town

with a very small field of view and as I

got more experience in the world that

view opened farther and further and I

was in New York and I was working in

fashion at the time and I was sitting in

a cafe and I'd spent the year learning

about AI coming to mainstream and what

how is the human species going to deal

with this and I felt very strongly the

only way to perceive forward as a

species would be to latch ourselves onto

Ai and to merge with AI in some way and

so I was in this position where I had

all of this energy and I was like I want

to throw it out there into the world I

don't want to do anything my own and

there weren't many people talking about

this as a problem and one day I was

sitting in a cafe and I got an email in

my inbox from Singularity University and

it included a quote from this man Brian

Johnson back in 2016 and it it

referenced merging with AI and I thought

that's the person that I want to work

with and throw my energy toward and so I

reached out to him and across like every

medium uh so literally his medium

articles email social media and I never

heard back and then year after year I

just kept pinging him and pinging him

and then

eventually I I moved out to LA to work

with Brian and what did you do for Brian

you say what what with Brian I

intentionally keep it very vague cuz we

do everything together we are two PS in

a pod and um from the very beginning you

know both at konel and at blueprint

we've just done anything and everything

that needs to be done my background is

creative so I I lean more toward that

side of thing so the marketing and and

just General brand design that kind of

stuff but yeah and you've become the

first woman to follow the blueprint

protocol that's right yes I remember

hearing about the blueprint protocol um

last time we had this conversation and

one of the things that stood out to me

is the amount of sacrifice MH that goes

into living in line with it mhm things

like getting up at a certain time and

then going to sleep at a certain time

and things that you eat are you

following all of that yes I'm definitely

not as extensive as Brian is because

I've just started the protocol but that

was a big decision factor for both of us

when we're considering this one is it is

incredibly laborious on our team to

bring up another person um but not only

that it means complet completely

changing my lifestyle and so when we

were contemplating doing this decision I

really gave it a lot of serious thought

because I know that the public are going

to follow along you know it's a really

big decision for my life it's a big

decision for our team and for the

resources that get get put put behind it

and so early on we decided that I was

going to do a 30-day trial before we

made any of this public to make sure

that am I capable am I willing is this

something I actually want to take on and

so yeah I meant completely uh redefining

what my life and lifestyle is and where

are we at now with that 30day trial yes

so I've done my 30-day trial and I'm on

about day 90 of blueprint so I

successfully did my first 30 days which

was yeah really really difficult and

you're day 90 now yes how long are you

going to do it for that's the thing it's

an algorithm so that was definitely

something I was conscious of this is

maybe one of the last decisions I really

made because I was deciding to walk into

the unknown like I didn't know exactly

how many pills I'd be taking what my

protocol would be how many blood drawers

would I be going into it was really am I

okay revoking my conscious mind from

making this decision making and stepping

into the unknown so what does your life

look like now on a day-to-day basis so I

so this is this was establishing you

know the first 30 days was really just

the trial and so um I'm we're still in

the process of figuring out you know

what I'm we're still in the process of

personalizing essentially to to my data

but what I do is I try and get 100%

sleep every single night I do perfect

nutrition so I eat the same thing as

Brian every single day so it's 1,7 100

calories perfectly you know um mapped

out and then I take over 60 supplements

every single day and I I I aim to get a

certain amount of um cardio and strength

training and exercise in every week and

how's it been going it it was really

difficult it was much more difficult

than I expected it to be why

um the process of doing blueprint is

really about uh measurement intervention

and measurement again so so when we did

my Baseline measurements there were a

couple things that became apparent one

is that people observe me from the

outside and this is how I observe myself

as well so it's not a commment other

people but that if things look okay from

the outside things must be okay on the

inside too and so I had a lot of people

like saying to me oh you Sur must be

healthy because you know you you look

healthy so you must be fine my Baseline

Fitness testing for example put me on

like an average of like age 60 or age 70

just based on my flexibility my strength

um my you know cardiovascular health all

those kinds of things um and then my

blood work for example you know a few

things came back off which is to be

expected like my vitamin D and my zinc

which is easy to fix but then my

oxidized LDL came back high which is

extremely concerning because I'm only 27

years old and these are the kinds of um

flags that you see early on that can

lead to things like stroke or you know a

buildup in your arteries that can lead

to really serious health consequences so

there were a couple things in those like

Baseline tests for example that

had a red flag then throughout the

process I would say that it's because

all of a sudden you're given this huge

task of looking after yourself to

Perfection you come face to face with

the things that are in the way of your

better of living a better life so your

self-destructive Tendencies and so for

me like day one I had like three

different exential crisis like moments

you know where my whole life crumbled

down because you come face to face with

things that are in your way that you had

never had to deal with before like so

you know Brian talks about evening Brian

the Brian that you know over at between

500 and 7:00 p.m. or 10: p.m. um every

night for me it was priority

Kate I didn't realize before I did

blueprint that my whole life has been

structured around helping other people

and never focusing on myself it was like

I was completely blind to the fact that

any opportunity I get I would deflect

for myself and be like how are you doing

what can I do for you you know because I

I realized that I didn't have a

relationship with self

where if other people couldn't see it I

just neglected it so in like little

things it meant that I would schedule

meetings back to back and I wouldn't

make time to you know use the restroom

or eat or have proper sleep um and then

10: p.m. would roll around and I'd

finish work and the only thing that was

left open was McDonald's and so that's

what I would eat for dinner um or you

know if a friend if I committed to hang

out with him on a weekend there was no

way I was going to you know say that I

can't do that anymore just to get enough

sleep because you know ultimately I

cared more about the other people's

perceptions than my my own actual

well-being people pleas are yes people

please are big time and to do blueprint

it's sounds like it's the antithesis of

people pleasing yeah I would say so um

and it's kind of like that you know

Brian references this but the the

airplane example where you want to put

your own mask on before you can help

others so you know in this process I've

slowly learned that I am functioning

better and I can actually do more of

that people pleasing in a weird way

anyway by looking after myself first

what what have been

the although it's just been 90 days what

have you noticed changes so as far as

actual like results and data it was it

was very um straight forward everything

improved pretty much across the board um

so my my restorative sleep increased by

19% in 30 days my flexibility improved

my strength improved like my my leg

press one rep REM rep one rep max went

from 220 lb to 360 lb in 30 days um I

did uh V2 max testing um so my body's

ability to use oxygen when I first did

it at the start of the 30 days I was put

at the 51st percentile so if you looked

at like an age graph you'd be able to

predict exactly what age I am that was

spot on average and then after 30 days I

had increased into the top 7% of Fitness

for my um age and gender which is huge

for me because I'm someone who has never

exercised a day in my life before this

I'd never gone on runs I hated the gym

I'd never been trained in the gym it was

just something that was like the

antithesis of anti- Kate you know um so

yeah huge huge changes on my end and my

blood work improved we're still waiting

on my oxidized LDL to come back but

generally everything everything looks

really good what's your take on that and

things that have improved and the

changes you've seen in her I think the

most interesting and uh entertaining was

the existential crisises where they be

they became so frequent I would send her

messages just like in a joking fashion

like hey like hope your central crisis

is going well today how can uh how can I

help but she really was I I applaud her

because she jumped in with both feet and

she was willing to share the entirety of

her internal experience so she didn't

try to camouflage any of her pain she

didn't try to uh be tougher than she was

she was just open and transparent about

the entire process and I think that

people around us the entire team and uh

those observing drew a lot of

inspiration because she was open about

everything about what she was struggling

with internally and uh she was willing

to step into the problem like she she

didn't miss a single day and that's hard

like there's a lot of motivation to quit

or to take a day off and so I am really

pleased that um she gave it a go and uh