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Sony stole what you purchased AGAIN: piracy is COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED

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Hey everybody, how's it going? Hope you

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have a lovely day. Welcome to today's

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episode of How You Getting [ __ ] I'm

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your host, Louis Rossmann. Remember the

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video that I did about 3 years ago, Sony

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Steals Customer's Purchased Content,

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Piracy Is Completely Justified? That

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video was referring to a message that

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many people got from Sony. As of

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December 31st, 2023, due to our content

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licensing arrangements with content

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providers, you will no longer be able to

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watch any of your previously purchased

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Discovery content, and the content will

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be removed from your video library. We

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sincerely thank you for your continued

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support. They're not saying that you're

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not going to be able to watch content on

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Netflix, where you're paying a monthly

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fee to be able to access and stream what

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they have. They said that what you had

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purchased,

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purchased, that's in your library, has

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been taken away from you. Imagine if you

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went to Barnes & Noble and you bought a

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bunch of books, and 5 or 10 years later

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you walked into your house and you

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walked into the room that your books

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were in, and you noticed that a bunch of

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them are missing from your bookshelf

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because Barnes & Noble took them back,

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but they never gave you a refund.

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That's not okay, and that's exactly what

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they did over here. The reason that they

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were doing this is because they didn't

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actually own the content that they were

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making available to you. Sony does not

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own the films and shows it sold to the

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store. Sony licenses them from the

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studios that produced them and has no

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ownership of that content. So, let's get

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this straight. I have a house. Let's say

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I sell my house for $500,000 to you.

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Let's say 5 years later somebody comes

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by and just takes the house from me and

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doesn't give you the money back, and the

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original owner doesn't give you the

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money back, and the reason they give is,

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"Well, that's actually my house, and the

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person who sold it to you had no right

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to sell it to you."

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In that arc of a story, how did somebody

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not commit a crime?

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Here, there was no crime committed. They

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were able to use the word purchase to

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describe what they were selling you,

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but they didn't say until page 26 in

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their terms of service, "Use of the

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terms own, ownership, purchase, sale,

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sold, sell, rent, or buy in this

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agreement or in connection with the

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content does not mean or imply any

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transfer of ownership of any content,

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data, or software, or any intellectual

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property rights." And they've actually

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done it again. So, originally they took

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it back. About a few days later, they

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said, "Due to updated licensing

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arrangements, the Discovery content

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removal plans is no longer occurring. We

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appreciate your ongoing support and

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feedback." It looked like they changed

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their minds, and yeah, lol jk. This is a

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message that many people got and have

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emailed me. As of September 1st, 2026,

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due to our content licensing

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arrangements, you will no longer be able

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to watch any of your previously

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purchased StudioCanal content, and the

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content will be removed from your video

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library. Thank you, PlayStation Store.

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Play has no limits, even if the

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definition of own does.

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Yeah, no no limits my balls, [ __ ]

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You guys have limited the definitions of

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the word sale, sold, purchase, own. Like

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there's nothing that PlayStation does

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more than limit. you to think about what

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these companies have gotten mad about

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for the longest period of time. What

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they've gotten mad at is not piracy,

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it's copyright infringement. It's when

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you go onto BitTorrent or Usenet or

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eMule or an IRC DCC bot or Soulseek, and

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you download a copy of something from

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somebody else. I can't make a copy of

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this for myself, because apparently I

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don't really own it. But, they can make

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a copy of something that they don't own

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and sell it to me and take it away from

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me later. And that's okay.

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How is that any better than piracy?

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They're claiming that when you make a

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digital copy of this and you give it to

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somebody because you did not own the

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rights to it, that's bad. But, they're

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allowed to sell something that they

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don't own the rights to, and then

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they're allowed to take it back from

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you. When you download a copy of a movie

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off of BitTorrent, the person that you

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downloaded it from has not profited from

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this. In my opinion, that is less

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immoral than what Sony did, because not

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only is Sony distributing something that

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does not belong to them, they are doing

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it for money. There's a reason that I

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say piracy is completely justified,

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because none of this makes any sense.

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You're not allowed to sell things that

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don't belong to you with the word sale,

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sold, or purchase. Like just imagine

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this for a moment. Imagine that you have

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a library. My dad had a room in our

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house. It wasn't a real library, but he

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called it the library. It had four four

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bookshelves of all the books that he'd

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been collecting since he was a kid.

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Imagine you buy a book, and then 5 years

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later that book that you purchased from

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Barnes & Noble is no longer there,

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because somebody broke into your house

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and took it away. And imagine Barnes &

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Noble said, "Oh, lol, sorry. We didn't

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have to have the rights to sell that to

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you, so we had to take it back." And

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then you say, "Well, A, you broke into

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my house, but forget about that for a

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moment. Can you give me my money back?"

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And they say, "No."

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is completely justified at this point

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because we live in a world we live in a

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legal system where this is legal. But,

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taking a copy of my Black Mirror legally

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purchased Blu-ray and ripping it with

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this Pioneer BDR-2213 so I can watch a

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high-resolution copy on my laptop on the

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plane when I'm flying away is not.

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Me being able to use what I bought and

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paid for is illegal. I am breaking

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section 1201 of the DMCA. The person who

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made the tool for this drive that allows

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me to break the encryption in this

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Blu-ray so I can rip a copy for personal

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use is somebody that could be sent to

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prison for 3 to 5 years. But, the person

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who took the content that I legally paid

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for, thousands of dollars of stuff in my

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content library, out of my library is

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just That's a business model. No.

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This is [ __ ] stupid. And there's a

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reason that I have these things and I've

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had these things behind me on the desk

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for a long time. This box disappeared

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recently after I cleaned up, but I want

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to explain a little bit.

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I have a lot of tools here that I use

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for things that many media companies

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don't like. I have the SiliconDust

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HDHomeRun. I've had it for almost 20

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years now. You can use it to get

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DRM-free recordings. Picture perfect, no

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extra compression of over-the-air

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high-definition television broadcasts,

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and I can record those broadcasts, which

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I have for a long time. I wanted to

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watch 24 and Prison Break, and I didn't

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want to deal with the low-resolution

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DVDs. So, I have this thing so that I

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could record high-definition copies, and

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I would share them with my friends at

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the time as a teenager. I have this

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BDR-2213, which allows me to rip full 4K

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copies of my Blu-rays. However, I also

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pay for my Blu-rays. I pay for the

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content I find valuable. Up to the point

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of having this in my collection. This is

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SUSE Linux 8.1. This is a Linux

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distribution. I paid I don't know if the

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focus is going to work on this. I paid

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$79.99

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in 2002 to buy this. I was a teenager. I

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was 13 years old when I purchased Linux.

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Most people that I knew don't even

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purchase Windows, and here I am paying

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for an open-source operating system.

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When I find something valuable, when it

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respects my freedom, I am happy to pay

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the asking price. I want to show that

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when somebody provides me with value, I

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will provide them with that value in

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return. I am more than happy to pay for

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the things that I find valuable. What I

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am not willing to do is have you limit

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my freedom with [ __ ] restrictions

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and rip me off in this particular

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matter. The reason that it is so

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important that you be able to break a

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digital lock, the reason it is so

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important that I be able to break all

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the encryption on these Blu-rays and rip

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them, the reason that it is important

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that you be able to have the freedom to

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do these things is because when you

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don't, you have a company that can

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literally redefine what the word own

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means and then rip content from your

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library while having the balls to say

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that WE HAVE NO LIMITS. YOU HAVE A

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[ __ ] limit. If I can buy something

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from you in 2021 with the word purchase

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and you can take it away from me without

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refunding me my money in 2026, that's a

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[ __ ] limit, Sony, and you shouldn't

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be allowed to do that. But at the very

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least, if you're going to be allowed to

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do that [ __ ] I should be allowed to

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pirate your [ __ ]

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Seriously, if this happens to any of you

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and you go on BitTorrent or Usenet or

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eMule and you get a copy of whatever it

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is they took away from you from somebody

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who ripped a perfectly lossless copy

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with one of these devices, you should be

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able to. There's a reason that it is

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important that you be able to break

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digital locks because content providers

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have broken the social contract time and

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time and time and time again. Something

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is seriously wrong if we live in a

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society where me ripping a copy of my

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legally owned Blu-ray is legal, but them

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stealing your content is not.

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That's crazy. A lot of you have emailed

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me with this issue and I appreciate it,

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but I would appreciate even more than

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that is if you would go to

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consumerrights.wiki while you're writing

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that email and create an article. We're

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trying to create the best centralized

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database that is open source that

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anybody can contribute. You can make a

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lot of articles here without even

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logging in that goes over every single

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time a company has tried to revoke

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ownership or change the terms of the

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sale after the sale in this way. My

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nonprofit is going to be fighting for

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ownership. We're working to reform

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anti-ownership laws in the United States

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and we're working to ensure that stuff

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like this just doesn't go this way.

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We're going to have some signature

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pieces of legislation that we're hoping

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to get pushed later this year and what

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we need is when the opposition lobby is

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show up and and this is a problem that

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doesn't exist, they're making it up. I

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want to be able to put on their desk the

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equivalent of stacks of phone books just

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filled with every single instance of the

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very companies that they represent

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taking part in this anti-consumer,

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anti-ownership [ __ ] Don't let

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yourself be gaslit. Most people are

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actually willing to pay for the things

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that they find valuable, but they don't

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want to pay for this.

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And we've learned over 30 years into

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this that this is not a working business

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model.

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>> Unfortunately, at least in some areas

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our policies haven't worked out too

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well. Our attempts at copyright control,

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at least as far, have not been

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successful, but I don't just blame

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teenagers and and college students. I

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really blame the the moguls in the music

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industry because had they been thinking

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about these business models

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when we were doing our work in 1994, the

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Clinton administration, had they been

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developing effective online distribution

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models when the internet first came into

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business, had been talking to Steve Case

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when AOL first started to become a big

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deal, and really seriously developing an

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online business model, perhaps we would

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not be in the situation that we are. But

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the culture of that industry was such

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that, you know, those people were

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concerned principally with uh

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you know, and their talents were

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developing talent, understanding public

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taste. They didn't know anything about

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distribution or technology or anything

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like that. Minions dealt with that.

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Well, their industry has paid the price.

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Hopefully there's not any, you know, I

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won't be quoted in the US, but I I'm

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afraid our Clinton administration

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policies didn't work out very well.

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>> Now, a lot of people accused me at the

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time of doing an end run around Congress

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and everybody else by negotiating these

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treaties and then coming back and

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saying, "Well, we have because we

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submitted this to Congress before the

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treaties

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uh process was completed." Then coming

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back and saying, "Well, now you have to

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do this, Congress, because we have

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agreed to a treaty." And I would say

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that they're probably right. That it was

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an end run, and it was partly

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deliberate. And the final statute that

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comes out, you know, it a guy who was

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the head of then the biggest record

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company in the world, Warner Records,

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and he was very nice guy, and he wrote a

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book a few years later after he retired

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and confirmed what I always thought to

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be the case about record industry

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executives. Record industry executives

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are impresarios. And the typical the

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best the most successful record industry

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executives, I would characterize as

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45-year-old man who can think like a

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17-year-old girl and likes to hang out

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in the morning and do drugs with rock

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stars. And he basically admitted to all

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of that in his book that he wrote

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several years later. Unfortunately, that

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is not a way that is not a mindset a

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part of the brain that does very well at

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evolving new business models for highly

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complex technologies.

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>> All of this needs reform, and we're

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going to be working to do that piece by

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piece by piece. We're not going to get

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everything that we want immediately, but

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I'm going to be working to chip away at

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the most unfair parts of these laws as

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often as I can. And when the time comes

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and we have a piece of legislation

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introduced, I hope that you'll be open

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to working with us to make it happen.

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That's it for today, and as always, I

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hope you learned something. I'll see you

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in the next video. Bye now.

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You know, actually before I end it, this

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is a Sony camcorder. I got it fixed

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recently, and I really thought this

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would be me being petty, but like I had

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a issue with the lens and I had an issue

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with with this thing after some physical

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damage. And what I know there's a button

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over here. I don't even use this button,

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but what I notice is that every other

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way that you press the button, it

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automatically returns to where it was.

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When you press it down, it doesn't

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return to the center anymore, and it

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didn't do that before I sent it off. And

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it's just one of these things where I

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I'm a repair company. I've been on the

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other end of this doesn't like this

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before you touched it so many times. I

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just wasn't going to be the dude that

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was going to do that to another repair

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company. I just I don't have it in me to

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be a customer. They gave me the wrong

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quote. It took them a week to re-look at

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the device to give me a quote for what I

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originally asked for. They said three

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times that they never even received it

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when they did. I don't file a charge I I

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bad about complaining about that. I felt

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bad about filing a chargeback.

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[ __ ] that.

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I'm filing a chargeback on Sony today.

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You revoked ownership from tens of

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thousands of people.

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You sold stuff you don't even own.

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I'll file a chargeback for you messing

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up the button on my camcorder.

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Completely unrelated to the topic of the

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video.

Interactive Summary

Louis Rossmann discusses the controversy surrounding companies like Sony removing purchased digital content from user libraries. He argues that this practice, backed by restrictive terms of service that redefine ownership, is fundamentally dishonest and unethical. Rossmann compares this to theft, suggesting that when companies violate the 'social contract' by taking back paid content without refunds, piracy becomes a justified response for consumers. He highlights his efforts to lobby for consumer rights, reform anti-ownership laws, and maintain an open-source database of such incidents.

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