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Good evening. It's such a pleasure to be

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with you. I'm going to make an argument

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today about how the world is organized

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or at least how different types of

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empires back in the day tried to

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organize it. It turns out that

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continental and maritime powers tried to

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organize the world in very different

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ways and that these have real uh

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implications in our own day. Uh and I'm

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going to be using terminology from

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geopolitics and also grand strategy.

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What is that? Geopolitics is the

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influence of geography on politics and

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grand strategy is grand in the number of

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instruments of national power that it

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integrates. And you're thinking, well,

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what are they? And think about who sits

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on a cabinet around a president who gets

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convened. Those are the elements of

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national power, right? So you've got the

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state department, diplomacy, the

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military, you've got finance,

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agriculture, you got a whole long list

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of people. and you want to integrate

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these uh these things. But before I get

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going, I'm going to give you a um a

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sneak detour, a really whirlwind tour of

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American history, which I'll get done

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really fast along with a tour of some of

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the great geopoliticians.

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And uh before I will after that

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appetizer, I will deliver the promised

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main course. Okay, this is June 6th,

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1944, D-Day, Normandy landings, where

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sea power, maritime power meets land

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power. It turns out maritime powers are

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the exception and continental powers are

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the rule. Why? Because maritime powers,

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if need be, can defend themselves

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primarily at sea with their navies.

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Whereas a continental power simply

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cannot, think Ukraine, a navy is not

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going to save them from Russia. So uh

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this is the first distinguishing

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characteristic between a maritime and

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continental power whether it is feasible

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to defend yourself at sea or not. And

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from this comes some implications that

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if you sit in a continental world you

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had better have a competent army and if

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you're a maritime power to defend

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yourself you better have a pretty good

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navy. But these implications go beyond

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the military to economics and politics

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as well. And I'll go into these, but

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this country began its life as a

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continental power all about expanding to

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guess what here, right? To the west

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coast. And uh the United States tried

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invading Canada a couple times. Not a

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new idea. In 1775 and 1812, the British

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won those things and we had to back off

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on that idea. And then you get here,

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President Monroe declaring the Monroe

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Doctrine, which is a classic continental

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spheres of influence, stay out of my

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backyard moment. Uh, the only trick was

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that the United States was so weak in

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those days, telling the Europeans to

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stay out of the Americas was just on the

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wish list. It was impossible to deal

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with. But if you look at the United

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States, how it became the United States,

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it's all about territorial expansion to

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reach the West Coast. And unlike a

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typical continental power which does

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this with massed armies, the United

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States preferred checkbook diplomacy. So

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when Napoleon Bonapart was short of cash

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in 1803, that's when the Louisiana

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purchases made. And then when uh the

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Russians were short of cash, a perennial

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problem, that's when the United States

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bought not only Alaska but the northern

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part of the the West Coast. But when the

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checks were not accepted, which is what

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happened with Mexico, uh the United

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States did the standard mass armies

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approach in the Mexican-American War,

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and that's how the United States gets uh

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Texas. So that the next check offered

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the Mexicans accept. And that's the

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Gatston purchase, which gets the United

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States, Tucson, Arizona, and other

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places. The longest counterinsurgency in

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this country's history was against the

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native population that put up a really

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bitter struggle. So the it's not the

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longest counterinsurgency is not the

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recent stuff in the Middle East. It's

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about what we did to the native

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population here that eventually had to

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give up. And the Americans had a name

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for their national expansion. It was

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manifest destiny. the idea there was an

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obvious uh fate of America or the United

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States to uh control a good part of

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North America and there were all about

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territorial expansion and this painting

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which hangs in the I think it's the

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western staircase as you're getting into

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the chamber of the house of

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representatives it goes by the

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politically correct title nowadays a

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westward hoe well that's not the title

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when it was painted it was westward the

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course of empire takes its way Americans

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were all about expansion and proud of

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However, a different view starts

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emerging in the late 19th century

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propended by it was captain then later

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Admiral Alfred the Mahan who is by far

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the most famous professor ever

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associated with the naval war college

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where I spent 24 years of my career and

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what he's looking at the more he goes

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actually power in the position in the

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world really isn't a function so much of

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continental expansion and consolidation

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but really it's about all the wealth you

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can acrue from trade and he thought

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there were certain prerequisites to um

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follow a maritime security paradigm.

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What are they? One, you need a moat. You

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cannot be subject to uh invasion right

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across your border or it's over.

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Secondly, you need a dense internal

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transportation grid in order to get the

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goods out in peace time. You need

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reliable egress by sea to get the navy

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out in wartime. And you need a dense

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coastal population. These are the people

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going to be running all the commerce.

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And uh you also need stable government

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institutions that are going to be stable

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in the sense that they're going to fund

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a navy and that they're going to pass

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laws that are going to u make commerce

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happen. If you look at these

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prerequisites and you look at China and

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Russia today, neither one has the full

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list. Far from it. Neither one has a

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mode. Both of them have more neighbors

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than any two other countries on the

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planet. And many of those neighbors

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don't like them at all for excellent

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reasons. Russia has a lamentable

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internal transportation grid whereas

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China's has been improving. Neither one

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has reliable egress by sea surrounded as

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they are by narrow uh in the case of

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China island clustered seas with a whole

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and Russia as well loads of of

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neighbors. These places tend to get

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blockaded and closed down in wartime.

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Russia has reliable egress up north.

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Well, great. No one lives there. What do

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you want to do? go pet a polar bear,

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polar bear, it will not work out. In

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addition, uh on dense coastal

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population, yes, China has dense coastal

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population, but again, it's onto a

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narrow sea. Russia does not have a dense

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coastal population up north. And uh

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Russia's never had a commerce-driven

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economy. China much more so under Dang

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Xiaoping, but recently Xiinping has been

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priv privileging the crony sector over

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the private sector. And neither one has

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stable government institutions. What's

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the litmus test for that one? That would

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be transparent regular elections and

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dictatorship for life does not remotely

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qualify. So, China and Russia certainly

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have maritime ambitions. Uh but I'm not

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clear they actually understand what goes

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into uh an full maritime paradigm.

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Anyway, um there was a counterargument

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to man that comes a generation later by

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a Britain, Sir Halford McKiner, who's

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looking at the world and looking at

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Britain's problems and he thinks that

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actually Russia occupies the best uh

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geopolitical location in the world, not

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Great Britain because and this is a map

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from his 1904 article and he defines as

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the pivot area. Eurasia is the part of

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the world he's focusing on and it's

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where Russia is and he also calls it the

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great heartland and he said look that

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area the pivot area is the citadel of

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land power on the great mainland of the

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world it is the greatest natural

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fortress on the world why because it's

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insulated by mountains deserts uh frozen

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seas and rivers that uh exit onto the

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oceans and very inaccessible places

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during wartime time and therefore it is

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impervious to sea power that Britain

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can't really get at at this area and he

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said but if you occupy the heartland

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this pivot area you have the possibility

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for defense in depth strategic uh

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retreat and selfsufficiency

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so the heartland is not insulated by the

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sea it's insulated from the sea and a

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maritime power like Britain if it wants

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to influence the heartland land. It's

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got to do it on the periphery. In those

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days, it would be through having

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colonies in these very uh strategic

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locations. In our own day, would be

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having allies with bases in these

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locations. Uh this man Nicholas Spikeman

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was also very concerned about who

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controls Eurasia. He felt that the

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country that controls Eurasia could well

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control the world. and he had much to

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worry about when he completed his very

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important work in 1943, the year he

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dies. He's a naturalized American

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citizen from the Netherlands, then under

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Nazi occupation, and he felt that the

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Nazis had come really close to

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dominating Eurasia in 1941. And here's

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what he said. Despite occupying the uh

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the safest position of any nation in the

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world, we Americans have been involved

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in two devastating world wars in the

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space of a quarter of a century. And in

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the second one, i.e. the ongoing one, we

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are at one point uh and in serious

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danger of defeat. The expectations of US

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statesmen regarding the outcome of their

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actions were consistently wrong and

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their thinking about national security

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generally fail to provide successful

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answers. sound familiar?

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Uh in addition, he's looking at the

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world and he said, "Look, the influence

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of the United States can be brought to

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bear in Europe and Far East only by

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means of seaborn traffic and the power

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of the states of Eurasia can reach us

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effectively only by crossing the seas."

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And this is true despite the development

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of air power because big things go by

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sea and they still do. Therefore, US

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security was a function of sea power and

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that sanctuary at home and by that I

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mean in invulnerability to attack is a

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function of a maritime shield. And

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Spikeman is really concerned who control

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controls the rimland of this great

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heartland, friend or foe. And here's

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why. The United States will have to

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depend on her sea power communication

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across the Atlantic and the Pacific to

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give her access to the old world. And

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the effect of this of this act access is

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going to delimmit what sort of foreign

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policy the United States can have. And

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what the United States requires is a

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continental ally who can provide a base

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from which land power can be exercised.

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What he's saying in World War II,

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victoring that thing is going to depend

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on alliances and allies. critical. All

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right. So, that was the ordev. I've done

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the whirlwind tour of American history.

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Settled in a few minutes or less. You

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should be happy about that one. And then

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I've given you some of the most famous

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geopoliticians there are, a synopsis of

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what their ideas are. But here's my uh

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this is the main course. First, I'm

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going to talk about continental empires

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because they come first in human

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history. And then I'll turn to maritime

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empires which come later. But then

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there's the industrial revolution and

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the postworld war II institutional

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framework that opens the possibility of

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a maritime global order. So that's my

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game plan. Oh, I forgot one thing. Um I

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don't know whether you all like animals

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or not, but we at the Naval War College

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love animals. And so we often refer to

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continental powers as elephants and

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maritime powers as whales. Bonus

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terminology. All right, I'm going to

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start out with China as not Russia,

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which McKinder was preoccupied with, uh,

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as the original land power. And here is

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Sununza, uh, the preeminent theorist,

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Chinese theorists on matters of

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strategic in his art of war. And Sununza

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is providing advice to kings on how to

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stay on the throne, to conquer

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neighbors, and do it uh, efficiently.

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And in this world, you've got lots of

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neighbors, any of which can in invade at

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any time. Third party intervention is

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the norm in this world. And if you think

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about this book, it makes no references

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to maritime warfare at all. And it makes

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only tangential references to rivering

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warfare. And you go, well, why is that?

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Well, it's excellent reasons. He is

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writing about the world of continental

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empires in existence long before the

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maritime things get going. And if you

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think about the great uh civilizations

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of Eurasia, often at their basis is

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their great continental empires. And a

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civilization answers the questions uh

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how should I live and how should I

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interact with others and is basically a

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world order unto itself. And

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civilizations have often fought with

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each other to make their rules

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universal. All right, a whirlwind tour

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of China and what it looks like to be a

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continental empire. So, here's a

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precipitation map. Here's where it

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doesn't rain very much. Here's

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temperatures. That's where it's awfully

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cold. Here's topography. That's where

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it's flat. So, if you notice, you want

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to grow things, you need it, where it's

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warm enough, it rains enough, etc. And

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here's a really good topographical map.

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And it gives you an understanding of why

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famine afflicted China for so many

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centuries of its history and why it's

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dependent on food imports today. It's

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just too much of their real estate's

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vertical to grow things on. And then

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here's an ethnic map. You can see the

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consolidated pink area. That's where the

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Han, the preponderant ethnic group of

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China live. And then they're surrounded

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with all these heterogeneous areas

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around them. You go, hm, I wonder what's

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going on there. And then here is a

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simplified ethnic map. It shows China

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proper. And the curious might ask, how

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did the Han wind up with all the prime

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real estate? Because what's arable is

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there. And the answer would be, well,

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they laid waste to the competing Zongar

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and Tibetan empires. I bet you've never

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heard of the Zongars. They were wiped

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out by theQing dynasty a long time ago.

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And in the continental world, you're

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faced with a binary choice or uh you

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either become Han or they will kill you.

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And so, you got to get out of dodge and

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flee south or do something else. And uh

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genocide is what happens to the losers

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in continental warfare. And apparently

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in our own day, the Weaguers are slated

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for genocide.

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All right, I'm going to give you a

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whirlwind tour sanitized version of

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Chinese history. The Hans start up north

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in the Yellow River Valley. And they

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spread and they spread and they do fun

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stuff like they build walls and they

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build more walls. Not a new idea. And

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then they shrink back and oh that bad

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bad time. But then they're back and then

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oh I don't know what happened there but

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anyway they're they're oh they

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consolidated and then there's this thing

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which looks like any other dynasty

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except a little bigger. Uh not so the

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Yan dynasty are Mongols. They're not

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Han. This is an occupation dynasty and

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that map's inaccurate because here's the

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real story. The Mongols start out east

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of Lake Bal and then they spread in

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concentric rings more or less over the

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Eurasian plane in another time of

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climate change when their herds they

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just had to move south or everyone's

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going to freeze to death. The Chinese

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act like it's like any other dynasty.

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No, it's not. It's the Pax Mongolica.

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It's the Mongol world order when the Han

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were subjugated people. But they come

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back with the Ming dynasty. But then the

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Ming succumb to the second largest

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empire in Chinese history, another

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conquest dynasty. These folks aren't

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Han, they're Manchu. And what's

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fascinating is today when China claims

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whatever its historic lands are, they

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either choose the Mongol Yan dynasty or

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the Manchu Ching dynasty when the Han

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were subjugated people. So try to unc uh

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untangle that logic. I'm not going to go

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there. Um but the point was not to make

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that snide remark, although I did make

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that snide remark. uh but rather to show

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you that there's been lots and lots of

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expansion, lots and lots of shrinkage

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and lots and lots of bloodshed while

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this is taking place. China has been

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raising armies denominated in hundreds

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of thousands of people for thousands of

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years. The west does not do this at

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least not on a regular basis until the

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Napoleonic Wars. Uh it's a brutal world.

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Now, Mckender didn't much care about

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China one way or the other because in

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his lifetime, uh, China was a country in

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freef fall. So, he's focusing on Russia,

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the Continental Empire. Mckendra is

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really concerned about Russia also

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because it's building railways that are

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going to give it all these internal

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lines of communication. And Mckinder

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think that's going to work really well

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for them in wartime, whereas Britain is

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stuck with exterior lines of

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communication. Exterior because you're

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going by sea in the uh on the periphery

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of things. So if you look at the

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Russians, they're like Mongols in

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reverse. They start in Moscow and then

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Moscow lays weight to the other city

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princely city states and after that

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they're after furs making money that

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way. And the Russians keep going until

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they run into countries that fight back.

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So to show you how this works, this is

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the Russian Empire at its height in

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1914. So you can see Moscow at the

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historic capital and you can look at the

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colors there and see ooh the

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administrative units are fairly small

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around Moscow and they get really big as

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you go out into Siberia and these are

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civil administrative units and here's a

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clearer map except it's not really clear

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the the bigger these units they're

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provinces they're called gubeni in

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Russian or governorates but anyway these

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provinces

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uh are are standard administrative units

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but for the recent ly ingested and yet

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to be digested. They're putting into

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different units called obelist obelisty

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and you can't see them on map. They're

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on gray print. So this shows you more or

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less where they're located. Outlined in

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red is where these places are. These are

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the places in process of being digested.

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So these are civil borders. These are

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the military borders that are

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superimposed over this. But only on the

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conquered areas do you have governor

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general ships. The general should give

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you a hint of what's really going on.

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And who's conquered? Finland, Poland,

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Ukraine, caucuses, all the conates of

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Turkystan, Siberia, and China has also

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done this of having provincial

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boundaries that come and go and move

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around and also superimposing military

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regions that also move around. Whereas,

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if you look at like the United States

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boundaries of states, they really

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haven't changed. Just you got one set of

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states and then that's that. But the

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what's going on here is these boundaries

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are a mechanism of ingesting, digesting,

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and if you can't fully digest and turn

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everybody into a regular province, at

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least you can neutralize these ethnic

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groups. All right, so Mckinder is all

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about the advantages of internal lines

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of communication. Well, it comes with a

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corresponding disadvantage, which is

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multiple neighbors. And these are

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Russia's, no kidding, security threats,

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circa 1900. and from west to east there

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Britain, Germany, Austria, Hungary, the

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Ottoman Empire, China and Japan. This

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security world is really different from

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Britain's 360 degree. You can't get me

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moat. Lots of people have come to get

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Russians over the years. And Russians

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have fought constantly with Germans, the

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Austrahungarian Empire, the Ottoman

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Empire. They've uh suffered catastrophic

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defeats to the Mongols, the Swedes,

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initially the Napoleon, the Germans in

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World War I and uh in the Cold War, but

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each time the central position allowed

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them to rise again. In this world, power

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is a function of land. Neighbors are

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dangerous. Even the itty bitty ones, if

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they're unstable, that instability can

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ooze over the border. Worse yet, if

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they're um strong, stable neighbors and

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they have an idea that you're going to

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become a menu item for them, that's even

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worse. So, in a maritime power, the army

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is for expeditionary warfare. What's the

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expedition? You cross the ocean and go

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somewhere else. That's the expedition.

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Uh-uh. In this world, purpose number one

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of an army in this world is you protect

20:44

the ruling regime. So if you think about

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the people's liberation army, it's uh

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goal number one or mission number one is

20:52

to keep the communist party in power.

20:55

That's not what the armies are in the

20:56

maritime world. It's also secondarily is

20:59

garrison the empire, prevent defections.

21:02

And then thirdly, it's for border

21:04

defense. And as you're fighting at the

21:06

border, whatever you win, you keep,

21:09

right? As you're expanding outwards, you

21:11

hope. In this world, away games are a

21:14

rare event. Most of the fighting is

21:16

occurring right on the border. So these

21:18

are statistics about deaths, not just

21:20

casualties, wounded people. This is dead

21:22

people. Uh these are the sunk costs or

21:25

no one's breathing life into these

21:26

people are sunk casualties. So if you're

21:29

looking at uh axis military deaths, you

21:32

got 3.2 million dead German soldiers,

21:34

one and a half million uh Japanese,

21:37

330,000 Italians. Now let's look at the

21:40

Allied land powers. 8 and a half million

21:43

dead Russian soldiers, nearly a million

21:46

dead Poles, 1.3 million dead Chinese,

21:48

and 340,000 dead Frenchmen. Okay, look

21:52

at the maritime powers. By some

21:55

statistics, Britain and the United

21:57

States, Britain with 326,000 deaths,

21:59

United States 295,000. By some

22:01

statistics, they suffered fewer deaths

22:03

in the than Italy or France. And France

22:06

wasn't in the war that long. And then

22:08

when you add in all the civilian deaths,

22:11

the numbers for the continental powers

22:13

go catastrophic whereas they hardly

22:15

budge for the maritime powers. So you've

22:17

got uh over 7 million dead Germans, over

22:19

25 and a half dead Russians, almost 7

22:22

million dead Poles, 11 million dead

22:24

Chinese, nearly a million dead

22:26

Frenchmen. So the deaths for the the

22:29

land powers are measured in uh millions.

22:33

Whereas the maritime powers, it's

22:35

hundreds of thousands. Still not a great

22:37

number. And what's going on here? It's

22:39

because you're not insulated by the

22:41

oceans. So the fighting tends to be on

22:43

home territory. If that's the case,

22:45

you're ruining CI civilians at a really

22:47

rapid clip. And no country in its right

22:50

mind wants to fight on the main front if

22:53

there are alternatives. But this is the

22:56

continental powers unavoidable agony

22:59

that when the neighbor invades,

23:02

you got a choice on that day. either

23:04

you're going to capitulate or you're

23:05

going to fight and you're doing on the

23:06

neighbors timing. That's Ukraine's

23:08

problem. Whereas, if you're a maritime

23:11

power observing someone else being

23:13

invaded, because in theory, it's pretty

23:15

tough to invade you by sea, it's a major

23:17

point of strategy as to whether you're

23:19

going to intervene at all, and if you

23:22

are, what is the timing? What

23:24

instruments of national power are you

23:26

going to use? And these are things that

23:27

the United States needs to think about

23:29

very carefully before it intervenes all

23:31

over the place and overextends. But

23:33

there are advantages if you win uh this

23:38

uh kind of warfare. If you think about

23:40

Russians uh enormous sacrifices, I've

23:43

just listed that for Stalin. It means he

23:45

dominates uh Eastern Europe or Russia

23:48

does for the duration of the Cold War.

23:50

But understand that that kind of

23:52

territorial domination comes at a huge

23:55

price. The value of the object had

23:57

better be worth it before you try it.

24:00

In this world, there are certain rules

24:02

for playing this game. Rule number one,

24:05

no two front wars. I've shown you all

24:07

the neighbors. If they gang up on you,

24:09

it will be game over in a very bad way

24:11

for you. Secondly, no great power

24:13

neighbors. Why? Because today's friend

24:15

can be tomorrow's foe. And that spells

24:18

trouble. So, what do you do? You take on

24:20

your neighbors sequentially, right? One

24:22

at a time. You set them up to fail. You

24:24

destabilize the rising. You ingest the

24:26

failing. And you set up buffer zones in

24:28

between. and you await the opportune

24:30

moment to pounce and absorb. This is

24:33

Vladimir Putin's game. Uh better yet,

24:36

you get the neighbors to do the work for

24:38

you. How? You sew their mutual

24:41

resentments. You get them to fight each

24:42

other. You deluge them with fake news so

24:45

that Russia can play the role of the

24:47

jackal state, which is once the

24:49

neighbors have sufficiently weakened

24:50

themselves and weaken each other, that

24:52

Russia can move on in and steal a kill

24:54

made by others. This theory of security

24:57

has certain problems. One, you're

25:00

surrounding yourself by failing states.

25:02

You can look at Russia and China and

25:04

they're surrounded by some of the most

25:06

dysfunctional places on the planet and

25:07

you can go, gee whiz, are they unlucky

25:09

or are they complicit? And moreover,

25:12

there are no enduring alliances in this

25:14

world because the neighbors figure it

25:16

out. The hegemonic power is just a

25:18

long-term problem. And there's also no

25:21

counsel on when to quit. like how much

25:23

territory do you take before you choke

25:25

on it? And it turns out that there's

25:28

been a tendency over the course of

25:29

China's and Russia's long histories to

25:31

overextend. And this helps account for

25:34

the implosions of various empires and

25:36

dynasties. Now, before you dismiss this

25:39

security paradigm, understand it was

25:42

very effective. Uh certainly prior to

25:45

the industrial revolution, no one cared

25:47

in this in this world about collateral

25:50

damage or killing a bunch of innocent

25:51

people. This paradigm is all about

25:54

killing people, breaking things to take

25:56

territory. And you've seen it operating

25:58

in real time in your own lives in Syria,

26:01

Ukraine, and other places. Um, this is

26:05

why those ancient ruins, the ones that

26:07

still remain are ruinous are ruins

26:10

because this sort of warfare is ruinous.

26:13

All right. Here is u one of the

26:15

preeeminent historians of the late

26:17

Tsarist period, Vasilei Kuchescu, who's

26:20

describing his country. He said the

26:22

history of Russia is a history of a

26:23

country in process of colonizing itself.

26:27

Her area in of colonization grows in

26:29

tandem with her national territory at

26:31

times shrinking at times expanding age

26:34

all movement. Therefore the periods in

26:36

our history are the stages which our

26:38

people have gone through in the

26:39

occupation and development of the land

26:40

acquired by them. There is absolutely no

26:42

mention of the people who actually live

26:44

on this land. It's like irrelevant uh

26:46

from his point of view. But uh this is

26:49

the way Russians have long looked at

26:50

things that if you have small neighbors

26:53

uh someone big may take them over and if

26:56

um the even worse of the strong the weak

26:58

become strong on their own right it's

27:00

dangerous so you want to keep moving

27:02

outwards and uh expanding and here a

27:06

generation earlier you have dsttovski

27:09

uh the novelist the author of crime and

27:11

pun punishment and other light reads

27:13

here he is confiding in his diary in

27:16

Europe we are hangers on and slaves

27:17

slaves whereas we shall go to Asia's

27:20

masters in Europe we are Asiatics where

27:23

in Asia we too are Europeans our

27:25

civilizing mission in Asia will bribe

27:28

our spirit and drive us further so this

27:31

idea of empire is very deeply rooted in

27:33

Russian thinking and here is couns

27:40

period he was a finance minister and

27:42

he's looking at the world in 1903 and go

27:44

look the problem for Russia is to obtain

27:47

as large a share as possible of the

27:49

outlived oriental states. And he's

27:50

thinking of the Ottoman Empire, but

27:52

particularly of China. And he goes,

27:54

look, Russia historically,

27:56

geographically, has the undisputed right

27:59

to the lion's share of the expected

28:01

prey. And this elemental movement of

28:04

Russia began a long time ago with Ivan

28:05

the Terrible, aptly named. And the

28:08

absorption by Russia of a considerable

28:10

portion of the Chinese empire is only a

28:12

question of time unless the Chinese get

28:14

their act together. So here you have a

28:16

statesman at the highest levels of the

28:18

Russian government who is looking at

28:19

Russian national security. It's all

28:22

about territorial expansion. Well, Putin

28:25

also looks at the world this way.

28:26

Apparently

28:28

the problem for the likes of Putin is if

28:31

a continental uh power botches strategy,

28:35

its known world can vanish forever. And

28:38

this is what happened to Imperial China,

28:40

Imperial Russia, and many venerable

28:42

civilizations. I love this photograph of

28:45

a aristocrats whimsical palace that's

28:48

long gone as a result of one of the most

28:50

horrific genocides of the 20th century

28:53

when the communists made good their

28:54

promise to get rid of entire social

28:56

classes and I mean get rid of like gone

28:58

forever and with the bolevik revolution

29:00

the ensuing Russian civil war followed

29:03

by collectivization and then the great

29:04

purges that finished the job. This is

29:07

the continental world. It is a world

29:09

without insurance policies.

29:12

Okay. Now for the maritime world, it is

29:15

a different event. I love this picture.

29:17

I have no idea how accurate it is, but I

29:19

think it illustrates the point. So,

29:22

Sikman is talking about all of these

29:24

different rimlands and things. And you

29:27

you look at the Atlantic Ocean, it's the

29:29

center of the world economy in the 19th

29:30

century, and it's all about the rimlands

29:32

producing all of this wealth. And then

29:35

you put it on ships and you send it back

29:37

and forth so that the seas are a commons

29:40

that you want to share. The whole point

29:42

is you want to get goods going from port

29:44

to port. And in our own highlyworked

29:46

age, think about it, the seas of the

29:48

original network that potentially

29:51

connected everyone to everything. All

29:54

right. The genesis of this maritime

29:57

world I uh maybe it goes back further,

30:00

but as far back as I go, is the Athenian

30:03

Empire that is hugging the shores of the

30:05

Aian Ionian seas. And it's all about the

30:07

trade that's acrewing there that's

30:09

paying for their empire. The Romans

30:11

likewise a ve another remland empire

30:13

very different from the consolidated

30:15

empires like Russia and China and think

30:17

about the terminology Mediterranean meta

30:20

middleterranean land so it's the sea in

30:22

the middle of the lands whereas the

30:24

terminology for China junga jung's uh

30:26

central gua kingdom so it's the kingdom

30:28

among the kingdoms one term emphasizes

30:32

the centrality of the sea the other the

30:33

centrality of the land different way of

30:35

looking at things and here's the

30:36

Byzantine Empire another Rimland Empire

30:39

and Then for a while, no one encro

30:42

controls the rimlands anymore. And in

30:45

part, what's going on is there's always

30:48

been a lot of money to be made on East

30:49

West trade. It used to go by camels

30:51

among other things on the Silk Road. But

30:53

whoever controlled the Westworth toll

30:57

booth on that thing made loads of money

30:59

because that's where it splits, right?

31:01

And it's going to go on the southern or

31:02

northern shores of the Mediterranean. A

31:05

lot of fighting over that piece of

31:06

territory. for a while the Muslim

31:09

conquest settled it. they controlled it

31:11

and then uh while that's uh those things

31:14

are going on or some there is

31:16

continental consolidation going on in

31:19

Europe and both modern Germany and

31:21

modern France trace their origins to the

31:25

empire created by Charlemagne at the

31:27

turn of the 8th to 9th centuries and

31:29

then if you go to the end of the first

31:31

millennium you look at Europe no one

31:33

controls the rimlands but you got these

31:35

large states that things have coalesed

31:38

into and then the crusades in part are a

31:41

fight uh of these larger powers in

31:44

Europe to try to come back and get that

31:45

toll booth back again, which they fail.

31:48

Instead, the Ottomans have it for a long

31:50

time. And this is when the Europeans

31:52

have to get clever because they want to

31:54

trade with Asia. So, they we're going to

31:56

go by ship and we'll go the long way

31:58

around. And it's the Spanish and the

32:00

Portuguese that try this except they

32:02

bump into the new world. New to them,

32:03

not so much to other people. And they

32:05

also go, "Oo, lot of gold and silver

32:07

here." And so they forget about the

32:09

spices, silk, and the high-end dinner

32:11

wear and they're going to do heavy metal

32:12

instead. However, it's the Dutch who are

32:16

the real followers or of maritime empire

32:19

uh which is very much defined by their

32:21

trading bases. Their problem is their

32:23

location in Europe is vulnerable. And

32:26

it's not surprising that it is a member

32:29

of the Dutch Republic, Hugo Grodius,

32:32

who's the founding father of

32:33

international law. Why? Because maritime

32:36

empires want to be able to use the seas

32:39

as commons, don't want people pirating

32:41

their trade, and would like everyone to

32:43

have rules so that everybody can trade

32:46

in safety. So here's Hugo Grodius in his

32:48

Mara Liberum, freedom of the seas, uh,

32:51

writing that every nation is free to

32:52

travel to every other nation and trade

32:54

with it. And then in his law of war and

32:56

peace, he cites a Roman jurist. So this

32:59

is going way back. To all men belong the

33:01

use of the sea. And then he quotes a

33:02

Byzantine compilation of Roman law i.e.

33:06

going way back in western thinking by

33:08

natural law the following are common to

33:10

everyone the air flowing water the sea

33:11

and in consequence the seashore. Well

33:13

this is very much a product of western

33:15

civilization but not necessarily shared

33:18

by others. For instance,

33:20

in 1996, China signed the UN ratified

33:24

the UN convention of the law of the

33:26

seas. UNLOS and uh except China says

33:32

that freedom of navigation does not

33:34

extend within 200 nautical miles of

33:37

their coastline. Except under UNL, the

33:39

number is 12 nautical miles. And in the

33:41

East and South China Seas, these numbers

33:44

make a difference. All right. The

33:46

British are the real uh pioneers of

33:49

maritime empire because they don't

33:51

suffer the Dutch problem that Napoleon

33:53

eventually takes care of the Dutch and

33:55

integrates them into the French Empire.

33:57

But the Brit the Britain have this 360

34:00

degree moat. They're the only uh power

34:03

in Europe that doesn't need to maintain

34:06

a large standing army. Because if

34:08

Britain could maintain a competent navy,

34:11

no army's going to reach British shores

34:14

because they're going to be drowned at

34:15

sea. so that Britain could take a

34:17

weakness, its dependence on trade and

34:20

turn into a strength. So the tra the

34:22

trade is going to finance the navy. It's

34:24

going to protect both uh British

34:26

homeland and some of the trade. And then

34:28

Britain is going to be compounding

34:30

wealth while its neighbors are busy a

34:33

they neighbors have to fund large armies

34:36

that um uh can be economy killing and

34:39

also can be coup generating that are

34:41

going to be constantly fighting with

34:43

each other and destroying wealth in the

34:44

process. So while a navy could provide

34:48

Britain with a prevent defeat strategy

34:50

i.e. no one's going to get to Britain

34:52

but it couldn't a navy's insufficient

34:54

for a deliver victory strategy. It's not

34:57

going to eliminate these continental

34:58

problems. But if Britain can keep

35:01

compounding wealth over time and then

35:04

its neighbors are busy busy destroying

35:06

wealth at a rapid clip, then the

35:08

difference in wealth is going to get

35:10

larger and in that sense things will get

35:12

better for Britain. And the Britain's uh

35:15

after much trial and error came up with

35:18

a way of integrating multiple

35:20

instruments of national power to deal

35:21

with this gentleman on the horse. Oh, by

35:24

the way, if you want to see the horse's

35:25

skeleton, you can go to the British Army

35:27

Museum in in uh London, but that's

35:29

another story. Anyway, gross story. But

35:32

anyhow, uh here's a good old Napoleon.

35:34

And the Britain try different things uh

35:38

and eventually figured out. The problem

35:40

is that navies are rarely decisive in

35:43

wartime. You've got to have other

35:44

instruments to integrate. Armies

35:46

sometimes can be, but and so this is

35:48

where the Britain come up with grand

35:50

strategy. They coined the term because

35:52

they need to to do it. And here's their

35:54

problem. On the eve of the Napoleonic

35:56

Wars, says Europe has a bunch of

35:59

consolidated states, east and west, and

36:01

then there's this big tidbit zone in the

36:04

middle. It's called the Holy Roman

36:05

Empire, but it's really a tidbit zone.

36:07

And Napoleon eats up the tidbits. And

36:10

then you get to 1812, and this is the

36:12

maximum extent of the French Empire. And

36:15

this is when the guru of western warfare

36:18

Carl Fonclausitz is coming up with his

36:20

ideas about ground warfare. It's a

36:22

really bad year for everybody. Uh not

36:24

for Napoleon but everybody else. And uh

36:27

this is when the Britons are thinking

36:29

about how are you going to use maritime

36:32

power to deal with this? And here's what

36:34

they come up with their strategy for

36:35

elephant hunting. How do you deal with a

36:38

continental power that's trying to upend

36:40

the trading system on which you're

36:41

making money? So rule number one is you

36:43

keep the home economy growing. That is

36:46

number one because that's going to

36:47

produce the money that's going to fund

36:48

your military, fund your allies, allow

36:50

you to do everything. Secondly, don't

36:52

let the elephant forage. You want to

36:54

close down enemy trade through blockade

36:56

uh commerce rating. So you're going to

36:58

throw it back on its own dwindling

37:00

resources and its increasingly

37:02

embittered allies. Rule number three,

37:04

you want to rent an elephant. You want

37:06

to find the continental power that is

37:08

most directly threatened by your

37:10

continental problem and you want to arm,

37:14

fund, do whatever you can to keep them

37:16

in the fight because that's the main

37:17

front of whatever this war is. Rule

37:20

number four, Britain needs to find a

37:23

theater that is peripheral to that main

37:25

theater where access by sea is much more

37:29

efficient than access by land and wants

37:30

to and you want to fight there. Why?

37:33

because it's going to do several things

37:35

for you. The attrition between the

37:37

peripheral theater and the main theater

37:38

is going to add up. That's good. You're

37:40

going to force the enemy to fight with

37:43

divided attention. And ideally, if it if

37:46

it's a a a really good theater, you're

37:49

going to relieve uh some of the pressure

37:51

on the main front as your enemy's going

37:53

to have to divert resources. Rule number

37:55

five, a rule the Britain's broke at

37:57

great cost in World War I. Do not take

38:01

on the enemy main force directly. You

38:03

certainly do not do that as an opening

38:05

move. Think about it. A continental

38:07

power's major strength is its army. That

38:10

is not Britain's great strength.

38:12

Britain's great strength is its navy,

38:14

its ability to generate wealth, and

38:16

therefore its ability to survive

38:19

protracted war. Don't play the

38:21

continental game. It won't be good for

38:23

you. And rule number six, if you're

38:26

going to fight on the main front, only

38:28

do it after you have really bled that

38:30

elephant. So that has been gravely

38:32

weakened and you only do it with lots of

38:34

friends. Gang up on them. As much as a

38:37

continental power would might want to

38:38

play this game, it cannot. Why? One is

38:41

insufficient maritime access. When Mahan

38:45

talked about egress uh to the sea,

38:47

basically they're living they're on

38:49

these narrow seas that are blockaded

38:51

which means you cannot get your surface

38:52

fleet out reliably in wartime. Seconds

38:55

your merchant marine is going nowhere

38:58

and in addition these continental

39:01

problems often have a surfet of

39:03

neighbors and some of which might invade

39:05

it. So it can't play this game. But if

39:08

Britain did and kept at it, it could set

39:11

itself and its enemies on opposing trend

39:13

lines. So that the war is going to

39:16

increasingly encroach on enemy territory

39:18

with the main theater and the more

39:19

peripheral theaters which is going to

39:21

undermine the enemy of economy,

39:22

productive capacity, morale, and

39:24

together this is going to uh undermine

39:27

the ability for your enemy to continue

39:29

fighting. In effect, it's a strategy of

39:31

protracted war, but Britain's going to

39:33

win by exhausting the other guy first.

39:36

And if you look, think about it, the

39:38

focus isn't primarily on the military

39:40

instrument, national power. It's

39:42

actually much more about economics,

39:43

coalitions, institutions, but they're

39:45

prerequisites for it. You can't play it

39:47

if you do not have sanctuary at home.

39:49

Sorry about the double negative, but the

39:51

point is if people are going to invade

39:53

over your borders or level your

39:55

industrial base, you have a hard time

39:57

trying to do this. Moreover, it requires

39:59

access access to peripheral theaters,

40:02

access to your uh alliance partners,

40:05

access to overseas markets, and it also

40:07

requires institutional civil in order to

40:11

follow a str consistent strategy over a

40:13

long period of time. These are some of

40:15

the characteristics that man would later

40:17

emphasize. All right. After the

40:19

Napoleonic wars,

40:22

uh there followed a century of

40:24

unprecedented prosperity in Europe where

40:28

there was no uh continentwide war.

40:30

Again, during this period, there were

40:32

some smaller wars and it meant that

40:34

people were just making a lot of money

40:35

playing the maritime game, which is just

40:38

trade according to the rules. Compound

40:39

wealth, don't level each other's

40:41

buildings, you'll make money. But World

40:43

War I came, never mind. All right. Now

40:45

I'm into the second distinguishing

40:47

characteristic between maritime and

40:50

continental powers. The first one was

40:51

the ability or inability to defend at

40:53

sea. Here's the second one. Continental

40:56

powers face contiguous threats. So they

40:59

have to focus on national security and

41:01

often they want to insulate themselves

41:04

from neighbors and they want exclusive

41:06

zones to do this and they often want

41:08

those exclusive zones to extend out into

41:10

their the seas around them.

41:13

uh maritime powers think this is crazy

41:14

land because they've got the relative

41:16

security of the moat. No one's going to

41:18

invade them. So, they're going to focus

41:19

on national prosperity and trade is the

41:22

the path to prosperity and to security

41:24

because you this is the money that's

41:26

going to pay for everything. So, they

41:27

want maritime access to markets. So,

41:29

they want to operate with the oceans

41:32

being commons and they want it to go all

41:34

the way up from port to port because you

41:36

can't trade unless you go port to port.

41:38

So from these distinguishing

41:40

characteristics, you get two mutually

41:42

exclusive world orders out of this. One

41:45

of them is we're going to divide the

41:46

world up into very large spheres of

41:48

influence, each a world unto itself. And

41:50

the other one's no no. We're going to

41:52

operate under universal rules. Uh and

41:56

the seas are going to be open to

41:57

everyone. Okay. The industrial

42:00

revolution upends empires of both types.

42:05

And it's going to usher in uh a maritime

42:09

rules-based global order. And it's a

42:12

gamecher because it introduces

42:15

compounded economic growth which is

42:17

indeed revolutionary. And it arises over

42:21

a combination not just of technological

42:23

changes but also institutional changes.

42:26

What are institutions? It's how we

42:28

organize each other, right? we join into

42:31

some large institution and then it's has

42:34

some purpose and organizing people to do

42:36

things more efficiently. So in the early

42:38

phases it's starting with steam power

42:40

iron industry textiles insurance and

42:42

banking you can't do the trade without

42:43

insurance and banking for your loans and

42:45

things institutions and it's later

42:48

phases it's about railways telegraphs

42:50

steam trips mass markets trade uh

42:52

general staff's armaments and what's

42:54

going on is the currency of power has

42:58

changed power is a function of land back

43:01

in the day why because land is where you

43:04

get the commodities that you can sell

43:07

And also uh this is where you're going

43:09

to in rural areas is where you're going

43:11

to get your peasant conscripts to to

43:13

field your mass armies. Well, once

43:15

wealth is a function of of commerce,

43:18

industry, and trade, it isn't land

43:19

anymore. And this upends the world. If

43:24

you think about the world today, who's

43:26

rich, who's poor, who's uh powerful,

43:29

who's not, it's often the degree to

43:31

which the country is industrialized. And

43:33

it the industrial revolution opens up

43:36

the beginnings of a global trading order

43:40

where you're trying to um uh through

43:44

trade negotiations to minimize

43:46

transaction cost so everybody can make a

43:48

lot of money and this is a process that

43:50

is still ongoing in our own day. trade

43:52

negotiations continue eternally but it

43:55

upends the traditional balance of power

43:57

that traditional societies are suddenly

43:59

uh their paradigm security paradigms no

44:02

longer work and uh China back in the

44:05

19th century was uh just opposed

44:08

uh this incoming maritime order in our

44:11

own day ISIS or whatever is left of it

44:14

uh absolutely reviles the liberal

44:15

economies and societies that are

44:18

favoring this sort of uh trading border.

44:22

If you look at uh the big yellow area

44:25

that uh McKinder cared about with

44:27

railways because that railways are a

44:29

product of the industrial revolution. He

44:31

was thinking all in terms of an

44:32

integrated transportation grid there.

44:35

Another way of looking at this map is um

44:38

the Roman, British and Mongol empires

44:41

all share a piece of real estate. It

44:43

would be the western terminus of the

44:44

Silk Road. So in the continental world

44:47

that silk road is a really big deal and

44:50

that is prime real estate. However,

44:53

another piece of the industrial

44:55

revolution is the Suez Canal, which is

44:58

going to wreck the camel trade on the

45:01

going on the Silk Road because once the

45:04

canal is built, even with steamships,

45:06

but the the canal even more so, it is so

45:09

much cheaper to send things by ship than

45:12

to try to walk it over Eurasia with

45:15

draft animals. and it just upends the

45:18

economics of the continental world

45:21

versus the maritime world. And uh let's

45:24

fast forward a 100 years to the 1967

45:28

uh war where you've got Israel fighting

45:31

uh Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. And as part

45:35

of Egypt's strategy doesn't want Israel

45:37

using the Suez Canal. So they sink a

45:38

bunch of block ships here. So that's the

45:41

operational effect. Israel is not going

45:43

to be using Suez Canal. But here is the

45:46

strategic effect the ones that actually

45:47

count in this life. If you look at

45:50

before the war, um most what is it

45:54

almost 90% of ships were 50,000 dead

45:57

weight tons uh or less. And this is

46:00

numbers of ships, right? And so they

46:02

could all make it through the Suez

46:03

Canal, which could take ships up to that

46:05

size. But then the Suez Canal is is

46:09

closed down from 1967 to 19 uh 72ish.

46:15

And so that's a long time in world

46:17

trade. Well, look at the adjustments

46:19

that take place all of by the time you

46:22

get uh later you get by 72 you got

46:26

almost 30% of the number of ships not

46:29

the capacity are these huge ships that

46:32

never had existed before they're not

46:34

going to make it through the Suez Canal

46:35

and Suez Canal has since been widened

46:37

but still the biggest ships can't make

46:38

it through and so then if you look at

46:40

the cost of sending oil from the Persian

46:44

Gulf to Rotterdam and the Netherlands if

46:46

you're going to send it in an itty bitty

46:48

ship through the canal, it might be a

46:51

little over $13 per ton to send it.

46:53

Whereas, if you're sending in a big ship

46:55

the long way around Africa, I believe

46:56

it's a third that price. So, um,

46:59

strategic effect of things unexpected.

47:02

That overhead cost in shipping is is uh

47:05

the size of ship gets over a lot of it.

47:07

It's not about distance. And here's the

47:09

other guy who really re revolutionized

47:11

maritime trade, Malcolm Mlan, who I bet

47:13

you've never heard of, but now I'm going

47:14

to fix that. He ran a um trucking

47:17

company and he decided to put the

47:18

chassis his trucks minus the chassis on

47:21

ships, what we call containers, uh above

47:23

decks, below decks. And when he did

47:25

this, he reduced the cost, loading costs

47:27

from nearly $6 a ton from to less than

47:31

20 cents. And then port time is again

47:34

much reduced. So ships are out about

47:36

making money. And then for those of you

47:38

who are skeptical about international

47:40

organizations, here's one you've never

47:41

heard of. The International Organization

47:44

for Standardization then standardized

47:46

these container sizes to fit one if by

47:49

truck, two if by railway cars and

47:51

thousands if by sea. And this just

47:54

plummets transport cost. But so before

47:56

you dismiss international organizations,

47:58

understand here's a little one you've

47:59

never heard of that has made massive

48:01

changes in your lives. Okay? And it

48:04

leads to plummeting transport costs for

48:06

the duration of the 20th century. And

48:09

our latest uh dictator for life,

48:11

Xiinping, he's got this belt road thing

48:13

that he thinks is going to be a good

48:14

idea. Uh good luck with that one. And

48:16

here are the statistics that back me up.

48:19

Until 1960,

48:22

the average tanker size was 20,000 dead

48:24

weight tons. And if you look at our own

48:27

day, the smallest ultra-large uh crude

48:31

uh tankers are a quarter of a million

48:33

dead weight tons. I believe the longest

48:37

train can take maybe 600 containers uh

48:40

on a good day. Uh whereas the largest

48:43

container ships can take over 21,000 car

48:45

with cargos valued over $1 billion. So

48:49

it is so much cheaper to send things by

48:53

sea and oh on the belt road thing it

48:56

would be nice if the whole thing were

48:58

continuous. It's not. It would also be

49:00

nice if we're all the same gauge. It's

49:02

not. So you're loading unloading.

49:03

Loading unloading. What a mess. Also,

49:05

not only is it far cheaper to send

49:07

things by sea, it is far more secure. If

49:10

you're going to run the belt road thing,

49:12

uh or it's it's the belt part of it, the

49:15

land part. Um you've got to control the

49:18

whole thing end to end. You're going

49:19

through some of the most unstable places

49:21

there are. Good luck with that one.

49:22

Whereas in the maritime world, if it is

49:25

uh unstable or they do block ships and

49:28

close down the Suez Canal, well, forget

49:30

it. Just go the long way around. It'll

49:31

be fine. And also for China with its

49:34

geographical setup as it is, uh the seas

49:37

are going to be open to it only in peace

49:39

time. In wartime, this has nothing to do

49:42

with anyone doing anything to them. It's

49:44

just facts. It is surrounded by loads of

49:47

neighbors, shallow seas, lots of islands

49:51

that are completely blocked. They're

49:52

blocked in uh from the the high seas and

49:56

for very predictable points. In wartime,

49:59

those places become kill zones. merchant

50:02

traffic cannot make it through those

50:04

places unless you're friendly with

50:05

everybody which China currently is and

50:07

maybe it'll change. Um and uh even your

50:11

surface ships won't make it out. So a

50:13

peace is definitely the better thing. Uh

50:15

if you look at the end of the last cold

50:17

war to sadly we're into the second one

50:21

but look at how world trade just takes

50:23

off. It was the miracle of your

50:26

lifetimes. It lifted hundreds of

50:28

millions of people out of poverty. Uh

50:30

the problem for the likes of Putin is

50:32

that this wealth uh producing trade was

50:35

not uh happening at his house but the

50:38

houses of those vested in the trading

50:40

order not in extortion. But with the

50:43

second cold war we're into more

50:45

inefficient things again. All right.

50:47

This brings me to the third

50:49

distinguishing characteristics of

50:51

continental and maritime powers. It has

50:55

to do with the transportation

50:56

revolution. So continental powers

51:00

historically have leveraged interior

51:02

lines of communication that allowed them

51:04

to garrison their empire, deploy their

51:06

armies against neighbors, and then to

51:08

form a contiguous alliance system. And

51:11

that worked well when uh power was a

51:15

function of land. Well, that's not true

51:16

anymore. The maritime powers uh are

51:19

using these exterior lines of

51:21

communications, the ones by sea, to give

51:23

them access not just to the people right

51:25

next to them, but to the entire globe,

51:28

which opens the possibility for them to

51:31

form a global alliance system. And from

51:34

this reliance on interior versus uh

51:36

exterior lines of communication, it

51:38

gives you the possibility of what sort

51:39

of alliance systems that you can have.

51:42

All right. The industrial revolution put

51:45

continental empires on notice. Not

51:48

simply because land transport is so much

51:50

uh more expensive than sea transport,

51:53

but but because it opened the

51:55

possibility of a positive sum world

51:58

order. The land empire MO of beating up

52:02

all your neighbors, well, it's negative

52:05

sum. What do I mean by that? Is you're

52:07

fighting over territory. You're damaging

52:09

the goods while you're fighting. So

52:10

whatever someone lost in pristine

52:12

territory now looks like this and uh

52:15

it's negative sum. You're destroying

52:17

wealth at a very rapid clip. Whereas the

52:20

maritime world is no boys don't do it

52:22

that way. You want to have trading

52:24

partners. You want to have it win-win so

52:27

everybody makes money so we have

52:29

compounded growth. Uh and this maritime

52:33

uh order is focusing on freedom of

52:35

navigation, free trade, international

52:38

laws and institutions that facilitate

52:41

trade in order to minimize transaction

52:43

costs so we can maximize the money. And

52:46

the insurance system for all of this is

52:48

alliance system. So most countries

52:50

aren't maritime by geography, but if

52:53

they all gang up together and they

52:56

coordinate diverse instruments of

52:58

national power, when they're dealing

53:00

with these rogue continental states that

53:02

want to upend the trading system, they

53:05

can turn out in force to protect the

53:07

rules that protect them all. And here's

53:10

the ultimate insurance policy that was

53:13

created by the greatest generation,

53:15

which were the conscripts of World War

53:17

I, the people who were told to go up and

53:20

over trenches and to see how that would

53:21

go. And the ones who survived came back

53:24

and tried to raise their families during

53:26

the Great Depression. And then by the

53:28

time they were of the age to be

53:30

strategic leaders, um they're off

53:32

sending their own kids to fight World

53:35

War II. And they concluded and this is

53:38

uh this generation is in Europe and the

53:40

United States both. They concluded that

53:42

the solution to great depressions and

53:44

world wars was institution building on a

53:47

global scale. And they built

53:48

institutions that have lasted to the

53:50

present and held the peace until in the

53:52

industrialized world until Vladimir

53:54

Putin decided to word kismagic. But they

53:56

create the UN, the IMF, NATO, the

53:59

predecessor institutions of the World

54:01

Trade Organization and also of the uh

54:04

the European Union. And their idea is we

54:07

must hash out our diff differences with

54:10

diplomats and lawyers because when you

54:12

send the soldiers in, it is uh whatever

54:16

gains you think you're going to get are

54:17

going to be inferior to what you would

54:19

have done with the diplomats. It's it's

54:21

two ruinous fighting each other. All

54:23

right. So if you look at where the

54:27

fighting that did go on in the cold war

54:28

cuz it was cold in the industrialized

54:31

world but it was really hot elsewhere. A

54:33

lot of it's on this Mckinder's

54:35

intermarginal crescent which is where

54:38

the maritime and continental worlds hit.

54:40

So if there are civil wars going in

54:42

there uh the one side of the cold war

54:45

wants to put it finger on the scale and

54:46

the other one wants to put its finger on

54:48

the scale and there we go. And that is

54:50

all wealth destroying. It helps explain

54:52

why growth rates and things weren't as

54:55

uh or globally had problems because

54:57

you're destroying wealth. All right. The

54:59

maritime world is invisible. And this

55:01

took me 15 years teaching teaching at

55:03

the war college to notice the obvious.

55:05

Sometimes the obvious come becomes

55:07

obvious by stating it. And let's see if

55:09

it works for you. The continental world

55:11

is visible because it's about positive

55:13

objectives. It's all about making things

55:15

happen. So you want to take territory.

55:17

You can see it. Either you did or you

55:19

didn't. But the maritime world is about

55:21

negative objectives. It's preventing

55:23

things from bad things from happening.

55:25

And um you can never prove that you

55:27

prevented anything. Maybe no one was

55:28

trying anything to begin with. And uh

55:32

it's invisible, right? The thing you

55:33

prevented never happened. Surprise,

55:35

surprise. You can't see it. But in the

55:37

continental world, it's all about

55:39

positive operational objectives. You're

55:41

destroying neighbors to take their

55:42

territory. But at the strategic level,

55:45

you are destroying wealth at a massive

55:47

clip. That is a problem. Whereas the

55:49

maritime world, it's invisible of all

55:52

the bad things that you're preventing.

55:54

Anyone messing with the international

55:56

trading order, which you're making your

55:58

money from in part, a lot of domestic

56:01

activity as well. Um, and navies, their

56:05

missions more often than not are also

56:07

about negative objectives. Not all of

56:09

them. What are they? Uh, and think about

56:11

naval missions. Most of them happen in

56:14

peace time. Yeah, wartimes happens too,

56:18

but for navies, it's mostly in peace

56:20

time. And what are they up to? Uh,

56:22

mission number one is prevent the

56:24

destruction of the global trading

56:26

system. That would be important. Uh, uh,

56:29

your prosperity is hinges on that one.

56:31

Uh, the second really important mission

56:33

is prevent limits on freedom of

56:35

navigation because if you cannot get

56:37

goods to port to port, it's pretty

56:38

useless. And thirdly, it is to uh deter

56:43

uh expansion into taking over big

56:46

countries taking over little countries.

56:47

Think about it. The bedrock principle of

56:49

international law is sovereignty. If

56:51

we're all going to be invading each

56:52

other, what international law is there?

56:54

And the antidotes to rogue behavior

56:58

uh in this maritime world are alliances,

57:00

diplomacy, sanctions, embargos,

57:02

containment, numerous instruments of

57:04

national power, and navies are about

57:06

deterrence, blockade, and commerce

57:07

rating. What you're doing is you're

57:09

preventing the continental problem, the

57:12

elephant from foraging. You're just

57:14

saying you're getting a timeout from the

57:15

glo the rules-based order because you

57:17

can't behave yourself. And you can go,

57:19

well, the continental problem's still

57:22

there. Well, what's interesting, so you

57:24

all know about compounded growth. It's

57:25

powerful, right? Over generations. Well,

57:27

people don't think about this back to

57:29

negative objectives. Sanctions are like

57:32

economic chemotherapy. What you're doing

57:35

is presenting pre preventing one or two

57:37

percent growth per animal even with

57:40

leaky sanctions, right? Well, and you

57:42

go, "So what?" Well, oh no. So very what

57:45

is uh the difference over several

57:47

generations is the difference between

57:48

North and South Korea. I get it. North

57:51

Korea is still there, but they got the

57:52

much smaller piggy bank than they would

57:54

have otherwise. And yeah, you're not

57:56

getting rid of the problem, but if the

57:58

rogue state has nuclear weapons and you

58:00

go, "Oh gee, we want to get rid of it."

58:02

Really? You want to have a nuclear war

58:03

to get rid of North Korea? Isn't it?

58:05

This world is not about the operational

58:07

win of totally eliminating a problem.

58:10

It's rather it's containing it at

58:11

acceptable cost. So the North Koreans

58:14

want to live miserable lives at home.

58:15

Have fun with it. Go live miserable

58:17

lives at home. And uh it's being

58:19

contained at acceptable cost. That's

58:21

what's going on. Okay. The optimist at

58:24

the end of the cold war thought surely

58:27

everyone wants to join the maritime

58:29

party. Not so. The Continental Maritime

58:32

difference of opinion continues. And I

58:34

guess you like the slide here of Mr. Fit

58:36

and Misfit, Vladimir Putin and uh Kim

58:40

Jong-un. They want to upend this

58:43

maritime order. They want to hollow out

58:45

international institutions, upend

58:48

international law, kill off our alliance

58:50

system so we can return the world into

58:52

waring spheres of influence and that we

58:55

can live the sort of squaled lives their

58:57

citizens have to live. Okay. To

59:00

summarize,

59:02

uh there are very different geopolitics

59:05

associated with continental and maritime

59:07

powers. And these discriminating factors

59:10

are the inability or ability to defend

59:13

primarily at sea, a focus on insulation

59:15

from versus access to the world and a

59:17

reliance on interior versus exterior

59:20

lines of communication. And these

59:22

accidents of geography have predisposed

59:25

different preferences. one, a

59:28

continental power typically looks at

59:30

territory as something you might want to

59:31

take. Whereas a maritime powers, no, no,

59:33

no, that's a market. I want to make

59:35

money there. And uh who wants to own

59:37

their domestic problems? And then there

59:40

are uh the continental power wanting to

59:43

be self-sufficient. Whereas the maritime

59:46

say, hey, I'm going to trade for that.

59:48

Uh I want access to markets. They're

59:49

going to make a lot more money this way.

59:51

and the continental desire for exclusive

59:54

zones whereas the maritime saying no we

59:56

want commons we want to share the seas

59:59

space cyber uh and the air that this is

60:03

the way to do stuff and then many people

60:06

notice that most countries except for a

60:08

few islands uh they aren't strictly

60:10

maritime or or if they're completely

60:12

landlocked I mean most countries are not

60:14

strictly maritime or continental by

60:16

geography but there's a correlary

60:18

alliances can bestow a collective

60:22

maritime position and power package to

60:24

those countries that join in gets large

60:27

enough that even though they they

60:29

themselves are not maritime alone but

60:31

together they can be and this choice

60:34

about which way to go is very

60:37

financially consequential in our own day

60:40

uh because typically continentalists

60:44

tend to be dictators not always but they

60:46

typically and they're all about uh

60:49

hemorrhaging ash to dominate their own

60:51

citizens and their neighbors. Whereas

60:53

the maritime powers go, that's nuts. Why

60:55

would you ever do that? And they they're

60:57

keeping the growth compounding. And if

60:59

you think about China, it has benefited

61:02

more than any other country from

61:05

rejoining the family of nations and this

61:07

maritime world under Deng Xiaoping. But

61:10

this car the legacy of history and the b

61:14

the burden of history uh these

61:16

continentalist outlooks like I we need

61:18

to take Taiwan really um uh weigh

61:22

heavily and uh the choice is

61:25

consequential and there is only one

61:28

win-win solution. It's however flawed

61:31

this international order is, it's a work

61:34

in progress. And uh it the only win-win

61:38

solution is to deploy the diplomats and

61:40

lawyers to hash out these things in

61:43

international forums because if we're

61:44

all going to send uh soldiers, we're

61:47

going to get a third world war with

61:49

nuclear followon effects and uh we'll

61:51

see whether humanity makes it. If uh

61:54

this is it's tremendously consequential,

61:57

particularly at this juncture in

61:58

history. Anyway, thank you for your

62:00

attention and uh I appreciate you all

62:03

coming.

Interactive Summary

The video provides an in-depth analysis of geopolitics by distinguishing between 'continental powers' (elephants) and 'maritime powers' (whales). The speaker explains how geographical factors shape national strategies, detailing the historical tendencies of continental powers like China and Russia to seek territorial expansion and security through land dominance, while maritime powers prioritize trade, alliances, and the maintenance of open sea lanes. The presentation highlights that while the maritime rules-based global order—supported by international institutions—has fostered unprecedented prosperity, it remains under pressure from continental-style expansionist agendas. The speaker concludes that the most effective, albeit flawed, strategy for avoiding ruinous conflict is to rely on diplomacy and international alliances.

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