Adults only IDE?
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Right now during the recording of this,
there's an insane windstorm going on.
It's probably the wrath of God being so
upset because what I'm about to say next
should never have been said. What's the
first thing you think about when I say
an adult only 18 or older ID? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. That that Yeah, that
probably is what you think about, huh?
That's because you're disgusting. Ew.
Gross.
Now, if you didn't think about something
inappropriate, you might have thought
about this right here. Yes, this is an
IDE. That is a person vibe coding. That
is BOBA on said screen. Now, you're
probably asking yourself, what is going
on inside of this editor? Well, it turns
out Chad IDE, which by the way, invested
by YC. YC actually backed this company.
YC saw the BBA on the screen and said,
"Oh my gosh, girl, have you seen the
size of my Rails app?" [laughter]
Oh, [gasps] just want to let you know
that I know a thing or two about Rails.
Ew, gross. Yes, but chat ID apparently
while you're prompting during the
prompting phase, you can then go on
Tinder. Okay, because you know you sure
you could like review code, become an
expert, actually have something
meaningful in your life. Or you could
look again at just BA. They're probably
AI generated BABA at this point also,
just FYI. You know, get catfished, son.
get catfished while you're using AI.
There's something kind of funny about
that. But no, I'm actually not
referencing any of those things. Okay,
that's not what we're talking about
today. Today, we are talking about Zed.
Yes, the probably kind of popular,
probably well-known, hey, people seem to
have some sort of vague feelings of
happiness about editor Zed. Now, they
recently sent off an email. Now, me
personally, I use Neoim. Never received
an email from Neovim. Hey, Justin, if
you're listening, I'd love to have an
email from you. benevolent dictator. Any
day of the week you want to shoot me an
email, I'll read it. Okay. Appreciate
you, bud. But they send off emails to
let you know like some things have
changed and it's kind of part of the
requirements, I assume. And this time it
was about a privacy policy change. Can
we all just admit no, nobody reads
privacy policy? And so part of Zed is
that they want to actually make it a
little bit more approachable to read
privacy policy. So they kind of give you
like a bullet point by bullet point
breakdown of instead of giving you the
legal ease, which no one can understand
except for if you, you know, get paid
$1,500 an hour. Instead, they give you
like human readable bullet points. And
one of the bullet points says, "You must
be 18 or older to use zed." You could
imagine my incredul at this. Ain't no
ain't no way I believe in that. There's
just no way that it requires you to be
18 or older. Okay. Uh-uh. Not. Nope. It
reminds me of the time that Gemini
refused to show somebody who was under
18 C++ code because honestly C++ code
conversion will need to refrain from
showing you code examples or solutions
that directly involved concept as you're
under 18. Concepts are advanced features
of C++ that introduce potential risks
and I want to prioritize your safety. I
hate to burst your bubble but of course
the internet and the Z email weren't as
funny as the actual reality is. Uh, it
turns out no, it you don't have to be 18
years old to use the IDE, but you do
have to be 18 years or older to be able
to use the IDE plus the AI features. And
so they end up responding saying like,
hey, you know, we're a little bit
imprecise on our language in the email.
A little bit imprecise. I love that
phrase. We are imprecise. No, no, no,
no, no. You weren't imprecise. You were
just wrong. You can just say, hey,
whoopsies. We forgot a word. We forgot
the the service part of the 18 or older.
Okay, we we put the word zed and not the
AI service part. I like how they're just
like imprecise. It's ridiculous.
Anyways, the reason being is that they
actually wanted to have this threshold
due to children's data privacy
obligations under COPA, equivalent
international frameworks, and an
increasing number of state and regional
laws that extend protection to anyone
under 18. Now, that's a lot of that's a
lot of words, and honestly, you'll be a
bit shocked about some of these things.
Now, first off, COPA, it's everything to
do with children under 13. So, honestly,
what they are saying about 18 and COPA,
you can just take it, put it in your
hand, and just throw it out the window
cuz it just doesn't have it doesn't at
least seem to say the word 18 anywhere
on here. It references children under 13
several several several several several
times. Maybe there's something kind of
deeper in the actual legal document, but
the FTC's business guidance seems to
only refer to anything with 13 or under
13. But when I asked Grock, I was just
like, "Yo, Grock, tell me tell me what's
what's some data laws around people that
are, you know, 13 to 18." It turns out
quite a few states have data laws, which
is kind of a weird thing. This is one of
those things that I kind of dislike a
lot about the internet because one state
can make up a rule or one country can
make up a rule and then everybody has
it. You can remember, you remember the
old cookie banners, you know those
things that pop up and make you
literally just say, "I accept." That's
it's worthless. It was a stupid thing.
It literally did nothing and that came
from a rule from the EU. It it has
largely provided zero value. Okay. And
yet everybody's internet got affected.
Well, this is another one of those
versions. California has a bunch of
mandate over how data collection works,
how privacy settings, and how all this
stuff kind of works together along with
a few other states. Connecticut has some
rules. Florida has a rule. New York has
a very funny rule. Informed consent from
a minor. Yo, dog. minors don't have
informed consent. I hate to break this
to you, but they're like, "Oh, yeah, but
if they're like 13 or older, they can
understand their data privacy and how it
relates to big corporations, you know,
aggregating and selling data." No, they
can't. Okay. No, they can't. Not at all.
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So, at the end of the day, they ended up
saying, hey, you got to be 18 or older
to use Zed's AI enabled software as a
service offering. And the reason being
is that they they don't have the size of
a team that can kind of handle and and
hurdle through the legal ease of
everything. Now, this is kind of funny
because we all know what's going to
happen, right? There's going to probably
be the cool parent at the high school
who allows their kid to have, you know,
like some AI with their friends. you
know, they don't allow them to go out
and drive around with the AI or do
anything like that or take AI to say
somebody else's house, but you know, all
the kids can come to their house and
they can all consume AI before the age
of 18 on Zed. And like sure, like I
always wanted to get invited to that
party and you know, guess I was never
cool enough to be part of the cool kids
crew always got to, you know, be using
AI on the weekends where me and my
friends, we just didn't have that as an
option. But the thing about states being
able to make rules that are like
affecting large portions of people and
including people not even from America
is actually a really bad feature of the
internet. It's a really bad feature of
developing apps that due to how
complicated things are. Individual
entities can kind of dictate how the
world operates. Like right here, this is
a perfect example. New California law
says that all operating systems,
including Linux, need to have some form
of age verification at account setup.
Now, when I hear age verification, what
I hear is age verification. Yes, the V
word, the thing that says that not only
do you put the little age in, you have
to like upload your ID and say, "Hey,
this is me." No, actually, this is
actually me. Which seems insane, but
here's the deal is that this one little
law that's being put in place by Gavin
over here, little Gabby boy. Guess what?
Every single operating system under the
sun's going to have to implement this.
And that means the entire world gets
this rule. the entire world will get
just a little bit more data collection
for everything. Now, we know that
Microsoft is probably giddy about this.
They're probably like, "Oh gosh, we're
going to create a new co-pilot
application called Copilot age
verificator. Oh, it's going to be so
good. I can't wait to have co-pilot age
verificator. That's going to be my
favorite of all the co-pilots." But just
like the cookie banners, it turns out
this age verification thing is is really
stupid. It, you know, there's no
verification currently going on. Okay,
first off, does Linux even have
accounts? No, not really. They have a
user login. Second off, in this context,
account means user login. The law
requires you to have a box after
username and password that is how old
are you? And no, I'm not kidding.
There's no verification required. The OS
is just required to make you enter
something into that box. That just
means, you know, those like, hey, how
old are you Steam pages? Dude, my kid
knows how to get my kid is like 11 and
10. They're like, oh, okay, how old am I
to look at this game? Okay, here's dad's
birthday. Bada bing, bada boom. Wow. Oh
my gosh. We got hackers here getting
around age verification. And the fact
that one state, one state out of 50 out
of one country out of 200 plus, okay,
we're talking about one over 50 over
200, a very small portion of the world
despite having a very large portion of
the world's GDP. And apparently they're
fumbling the bag on that right now. But
nonetheless, that one little place can
make a rule that affects everybody. It
just it is just the worst setup. Like we
c how can this be? How can one person
make this? Now I know I I I don't do
politics. I don't talk about politics,
but this is one of those situations
where I lament kind of the political
nature of things sometimes because I
mean look at us age verification in
Linux. Arch Linux is going to require
you to have username, password, and age.
And you and we all know what happens
here. Okay, people are like, "Oh, that's
a slippery slope." That's that's a
fallacy. Well, guess what? It's
everything's a slippery slope, brother.
We all know where this is going, right?
Which is just going to be the continual
intrusion into everybody's life. It's
going to be entering your age today. In
10 years, it'll be uploading your ID and
having your eyeballs scanned and your
anus scanned to be able to have the
perfect World Coin application to really
verify you that to Sam Alman that you
actually are who you are. or then you
can finally receive your UBI from Sam
Alman's World Coin Tits. Wonderful.
Absolutely wonderful. Okay, that was a
little Okay. Hey. Okay. Hey, I'm sorry
that was a little dark. I got a little
dark there. Okay. This is normally like
a little bit more of a chipper channel
and so my bad on getting a little
intense there. Okay. I will not bring up
Anusa scanning anymore. Okay. I'll keep
the anuses free from this channel from
here on out. Okay. The name is actually
I mean I'm I'm not lying when I say
stuff about the anus though. It does
turn out there is a smart toilet that
can identify who's using it based on the
shape of the anus. Okay, [laughter]
you know even just saying that I feel
like such an idiot. I can't believe
[laughter]
you know. Hey, if you can't laugh your
way through the apocalypse, what are you
doing with your life? Th This is funny.
Okay, this is really funny. A gen.
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The speaker discusses an email from the Zed editor about a privacy policy change, initially stating users must be 18 or older to use it. This was later clarified to apply only to Zed's AI features, due to children's data privacy obligations under COPA and various state laws. The speaker criticizes this reasoning, highlighting that COPA applies to those under 13 and questioning the concept of "informed consent" for minors in other state laws. They express concern about how individual state laws, like a new California mandate for age verification in all operating systems, can globally impact the internet, leading to more data collection without effective verification. The speaker worries about this trend being a "slippery slope" towards increasingly intrusive personal data collection, humorously concluding with an absurd example of a smart toilet that identifies users by their unique anatomy.
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