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Right now during the recording of this,

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there's an insane windstorm going on.

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It's probably the wrath of God being so

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upset because what I'm about to say next

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should never have been said. What's the

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first thing you think about when I say

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an adult only 18 or older ID? Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. That that Yeah, that

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probably is what you think about, huh?

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That's because you're disgusting. Ew.

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Gross.

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Now, if you didn't think about something

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inappropriate, you might have thought

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about this right here. Yes, this is an

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IDE. That is a person vibe coding. That

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is BOBA on said screen. Now, you're

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probably asking yourself, what is going

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on inside of this editor? Well, it turns

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out Chad IDE, which by the way, invested

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by YC. YC actually backed this company.

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YC saw the BBA on the screen and said,

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"Oh my gosh, girl, have you seen the

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size of my Rails app?" [laughter]

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Oh, [gasps] just want to let you know

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that I know a thing or two about Rails.

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Ew, gross. Yes, but chat ID apparently

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while you're prompting during the

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prompting phase, you can then go on

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Tinder. Okay, because you know you sure

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you could like review code, become an

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expert, actually have something

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meaningful in your life. Or you could

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look again at just BA. They're probably

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AI generated BABA at this point also,

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just FYI. You know, get catfished, son.

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get catfished while you're using AI.

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There's something kind of funny about

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that. But no, I'm actually not

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referencing any of those things. Okay,

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that's not what we're talking about

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today. Today, we are talking about Zed.

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Yes, the probably kind of popular,

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probably well-known, hey, people seem to

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have some sort of vague feelings of

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happiness about editor Zed. Now, they

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recently sent off an email. Now, me

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personally, I use Neoim. Never received

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an email from Neovim. Hey, Justin, if

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you're listening, I'd love to have an

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email from you. benevolent dictator. Any

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day of the week you want to shoot me an

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email, I'll read it. Okay. Appreciate

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you, bud. But they send off emails to

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let you know like some things have

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changed and it's kind of part of the

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requirements, I assume. And this time it

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was about a privacy policy change. Can

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we all just admit no, nobody reads

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privacy policy? And so part of Zed is

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that they want to actually make it a

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little bit more approachable to read

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privacy policy. So they kind of give you

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like a bullet point by bullet point

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breakdown of instead of giving you the

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legal ease, which no one can understand

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except for if you, you know, get paid

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$1,500 an hour. Instead, they give you

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like human readable bullet points. And

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one of the bullet points says, "You must

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be 18 or older to use zed." You could

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imagine my incredul at this. Ain't no

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ain't no way I believe in that. There's

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just no way that it requires you to be

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18 or older. Okay. Uh-uh. Not. Nope. It

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reminds me of the time that Gemini

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refused to show somebody who was under

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18 C++ code because honestly C++ code

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conversion will need to refrain from

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showing you code examples or solutions

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that directly involved concept as you're

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under 18. Concepts are advanced features

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of C++ that introduce potential risks

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and I want to prioritize your safety. I

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hate to burst your bubble but of course

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the internet and the Z email weren't as

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funny as the actual reality is. Uh, it

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turns out no, it you don't have to be 18

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years old to use the IDE, but you do

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have to be 18 years or older to be able

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to use the IDE plus the AI features. And

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so they end up responding saying like,

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hey, you know, we're a little bit

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imprecise on our language in the email.

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A little bit imprecise. I love that

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phrase. We are imprecise. No, no, no,

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no, no. You weren't imprecise. You were

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just wrong. You can just say, hey,

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whoopsies. We forgot a word. We forgot

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the the service part of the 18 or older.

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Okay, we we put the word zed and not the

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AI service part. I like how they're just

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like imprecise. It's ridiculous.

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Anyways, the reason being is that they

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actually wanted to have this threshold

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due to children's data privacy

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obligations under COPA, equivalent

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international frameworks, and an

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increasing number of state and regional

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laws that extend protection to anyone

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under 18. Now, that's a lot of that's a

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lot of words, and honestly, you'll be a

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bit shocked about some of these things.

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Now, first off, COPA, it's everything to

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do with children under 13. So, honestly,

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what they are saying about 18 and COPA,

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you can just take it, put it in your

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hand, and just throw it out the window

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cuz it just doesn't have it doesn't at

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least seem to say the word 18 anywhere

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on here. It references children under 13

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several several several several several

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times. Maybe there's something kind of

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deeper in the actual legal document, but

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the FTC's business guidance seems to

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only refer to anything with 13 or under

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13. But when I asked Grock, I was just

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like, "Yo, Grock, tell me tell me what's

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what's some data laws around people that

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are, you know, 13 to 18." It turns out

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quite a few states have data laws, which

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is kind of a weird thing. This is one of

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those things that I kind of dislike a

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lot about the internet because one state

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can make up a rule or one country can

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make up a rule and then everybody has

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it. You can remember, you remember the

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old cookie banners, you know those

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things that pop up and make you

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literally just say, "I accept." That's

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it's worthless. It was a stupid thing.

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It literally did nothing and that came

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from a rule from the EU. It it has

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largely provided zero value. Okay. And

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yet everybody's internet got affected.

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Well, this is another one of those

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versions. California has a bunch of

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mandate over how data collection works,

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how privacy settings, and how all this

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stuff kind of works together along with

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a few other states. Connecticut has some

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rules. Florida has a rule. New York has

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a very funny rule. Informed consent from

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a minor. Yo, dog. minors don't have

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informed consent. I hate to break this

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to you, but they're like, "Oh, yeah, but

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if they're like 13 or older, they can

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understand their data privacy and how it

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relates to big corporations, you know,

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aggregating and selling data." No, they

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can't. Okay. No, they can't. Not at all.

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So, at the end of the day, they ended up

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saying, hey, you got to be 18 or older

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to use Zed's AI enabled software as a

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service offering. And the reason being

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is that they they don't have the size of

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a team that can kind of handle and and

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hurdle through the legal ease of

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everything. Now, this is kind of funny

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because we all know what's going to

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happen, right? There's going to probably

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be the cool parent at the high school

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who allows their kid to have, you know,

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like some AI with their friends. you

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know, they don't allow them to go out

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and drive around with the AI or do

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anything like that or take AI to say

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somebody else's house, but you know, all

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the kids can come to their house and

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they can all consume AI before the age

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of 18 on Zed. And like sure, like I

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always wanted to get invited to that

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party and you know, guess I was never

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cool enough to be part of the cool kids

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crew always got to, you know, be using

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AI on the weekends where me and my

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friends, we just didn't have that as an

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option. But the thing about states being

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able to make rules that are like

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affecting large portions of people and

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including people not even from America

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is actually a really bad feature of the

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internet. It's a really bad feature of

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developing apps that due to how

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complicated things are. Individual

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entities can kind of dictate how the

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world operates. Like right here, this is

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a perfect example. New California law

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says that all operating systems,

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including Linux, need to have some form

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of age verification at account setup.

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Now, when I hear age verification, what

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I hear is age verification. Yes, the V

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word, the thing that says that not only

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do you put the little age in, you have

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to like upload your ID and say, "Hey,

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this is me." No, actually, this is

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actually me. Which seems insane, but

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here's the deal is that this one little

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law that's being put in place by Gavin

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over here, little Gabby boy. Guess what?

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Every single operating system under the

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sun's going to have to implement this.

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And that means the entire world gets

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this rule. the entire world will get

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just a little bit more data collection

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for everything. Now, we know that

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Microsoft is probably giddy about this.

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They're probably like, "Oh gosh, we're

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going to create a new co-pilot

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application called Copilot age

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verificator. Oh, it's going to be so

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good. I can't wait to have co-pilot age

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verificator. That's going to be my

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favorite of all the co-pilots." But just

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like the cookie banners, it turns out

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this age verification thing is is really

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stupid. It, you know, there's no

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verification currently going on. Okay,

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first off, does Linux even have

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accounts? No, not really. They have a

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user login. Second off, in this context,

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account means user login. The law

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requires you to have a box after

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username and password that is how old

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are you? And no, I'm not kidding.

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There's no verification required. The OS

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is just required to make you enter

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something into that box. That just

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means, you know, those like, hey, how

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old are you Steam pages? Dude, my kid

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knows how to get my kid is like 11 and

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10. They're like, oh, okay, how old am I

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to look at this game? Okay, here's dad's

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birthday. Bada bing, bada boom. Wow. Oh

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my gosh. We got hackers here getting

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around age verification. And the fact

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that one state, one state out of 50 out

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of one country out of 200 plus, okay,

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we're talking about one over 50 over

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200, a very small portion of the world

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despite having a very large portion of

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the world's GDP. And apparently they're

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fumbling the bag on that right now. But

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nonetheless, that one little place can

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make a rule that affects everybody. It

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just it is just the worst setup. Like we

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c how can this be? How can one person

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make this? Now I know I I I don't do

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politics. I don't talk about politics,

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but this is one of those situations

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where I lament kind of the political

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nature of things sometimes because I

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mean look at us age verification in

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Linux. Arch Linux is going to require

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you to have username, password, and age.

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And you and we all know what happens

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here. Okay, people are like, "Oh, that's

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a slippery slope." That's that's a

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fallacy. Well, guess what? It's

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everything's a slippery slope, brother.

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We all know where this is going, right?

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Which is just going to be the continual

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intrusion into everybody's life. It's

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going to be entering your age today. In

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10 years, it'll be uploading your ID and

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having your eyeballs scanned and your

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anus scanned to be able to have the

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perfect World Coin application to really

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verify you that to Sam Alman that you

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actually are who you are. or then you

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can finally receive your UBI from Sam

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Alman's World Coin Tits. Wonderful.

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Absolutely wonderful. Okay, that was a

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little Okay. Hey. Okay. Hey, I'm sorry

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that was a little dark. I got a little

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dark there. Okay. This is normally like

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a little bit more of a chipper channel

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and so my bad on getting a little

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intense there. Okay. I will not bring up

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Anusa scanning anymore. Okay. I'll keep

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the anuses free from this channel from

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here on out. Okay. The name is actually

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I mean I'm I'm not lying when I say

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stuff about the anus though. It does

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turn out there is a smart toilet that

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can identify who's using it based on the

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shape of the anus. Okay, [laughter]

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you know even just saying that I feel

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like such an idiot. I can't believe

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[laughter]

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you know. Hey, if you can't laugh your

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way through the apocalypse, what are you

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doing with your life? Th This is funny.

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Okay, this is really funny. A gen.

Interactive Summary

The speaker discusses an email from the Zed editor about a privacy policy change, initially stating users must be 18 or older to use it. This was later clarified to apply only to Zed's AI features, due to children's data privacy obligations under COPA and various state laws. The speaker criticizes this reasoning, highlighting that COPA applies to those under 13 and questioning the concept of "informed consent" for minors in other state laws. They express concern about how individual state laws, like a new California mandate for age verification in all operating systems, can globally impact the internet, leading to more data collection without effective verification. The speaker worries about this trend being a "slippery slope" towards increasingly intrusive personal data collection, humorously concluding with an absurd example of a smart toilet that identifies users by their unique anatomy.

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