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So, then, guys, great news. I managed to

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get my hands on a new Steam Machine.

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Now, I for one love portable little mini

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PCs. You know, I'm a big fan of the Mac

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mini, but the Steam Machine is something

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I've had my eye on, I would say, for at

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least the last sort of 6-7 months, ever

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since it was announced. But, obviously,

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one of the big things that's happened

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with the Steam Machine, it got delayed,

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and then the price got revealed, and it

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was a lot higher than we actually

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thought. And I think the big reason for

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this is all because of those data

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centers building all those AI bits and

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pieces. And there's a massive kind of

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shortage of RAM, and there's also a

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shortage of NAND chips, which has

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increased the prices. And we've seen the

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likes of this happen to Apple, too, with

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the, you know, Mac mini now starts at

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$799

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US dollars for it, instead of $599 when

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it first got released. And, you know, it

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does come with 16 GB of RAM. It also

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comes with 512 GB of storage now.

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Whereas, like, the Steam Machine also

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comes with 16 GB of RAM, and also 512 GB

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of storage. However, this is the big

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cruncher here. This starts at $1,049

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US dollars. Now, I am going to throw in

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a little caveat there, that this also

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does have a dedicated graphics built

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into this. This has got 8 GB of

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additional kind of RAM just for the

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graphics there.

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So, I guess in a straight comparison, if

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you were to even upgrade your Mac mini

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to 24 GB RAM, cuz obviously all of this

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paired up together is 24, that this

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would be $999 US dollars, this would be

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$1,049 US dollars. So, $50 more there.

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So, it is similar-ish kind of pricing

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what is going on between both these

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machines. Now, obviously, I'm going to

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say this, the Mac mini on paper is far

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more powerful. We know it's got the M4

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chip and everything like that. It's been

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around for years, and obviously it's

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going to be way more powerful. But, the

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Steam Machine is still quite good for

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what it is. Have a look at these

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benchmarks that we've got right here for

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Geekbench. We've got a single-core score

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of 2,334,

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and a multi-core score of 7,392.

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But, be aware, this is a six-core setup

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here. Now, I know a lot of you guys are

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going to say, "This is not even as fast

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as say an M1 chip out there, you know,

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in multi-core performance." And you are

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absolutely right. But, do you remember

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that did come with the likes of an

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eight-core CPU. This is only a six-core,

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you know, CPU that we have here. So,

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yeah, there is a difference there

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straight away. And before I dive in

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deeper talking about the Steam Machine,

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what I've got to say here right now is

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that Steam Machine is not meant to be

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the most all-powerful, almighty kind of

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PC out there. It's not meant to be the

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best gaming device out there. What this

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really is is if you wanted to get into

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PC gaming using Steam's library out

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there, and just wanted a machine for

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your home, or just goes, connects up to

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your TV, or to a monitor at home, and

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you just want to start playing games

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straight away in a small factor form box

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with brand new components as well, brand

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new machine with a warranty, this is

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what the Steam Machine is all about.

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Now, we could also go into a whole

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debate here that if you bought

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pre-owned, second-hand parts, and things

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like this, that obviously, yeah, you

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could probably out-spec the Steam

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Machine. And obviously, this will you

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probably get a bit more performance.

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But, this is for a new machine out

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there. I am going to say this, if you

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got yourself a pre-built computer with

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similar kind of specs out there, I am

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going to say it is a similar kind of

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price. At least in the UK, it's like

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that on brand new parts. Not literally

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going out and buying, say, a graphics

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card that came out 2 years ago, was

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sitting on the shelf brand new. I'm

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talking about the latest and greatest

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additions of parts out there, assembling

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it, then yeah, it's actually hard to

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actually match the price here. So,

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moving on from this there, let's talk

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about the actual Steam Machine and

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everything about it. Let's talk about

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the design first of all. So, the design

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is pretty cool what you have right here.

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It's just kind of like a box, a cube

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shape. It reminds me of like an old

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Nintendo GameCube, to be honest. Uh but

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yeah, it's a great kind of design. It's

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not not smallest comparing it to say a

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Mac mini, as you can see right here.

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Obviously, the Mac Mini is definitely

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smaller, but for what it is, it is quite

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cool for its actual design. And compared

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to say a big PC out there, you know,

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it's going to be hard to beat in its

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sort of cool form factor and what you

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are getting here. Also, the likes of

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Valve when they designed the Steam

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Machine, they done some really clever

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kind of stuff. They've got a massive

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heat sink on the inside and a big fan on

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the back which keeps everything nice and

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cool. And what I would say is during my

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time with it, this has been super quiet.

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I'd actually say it's probably been

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about as loud as the Mac Mini when

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that's under pressure. What's quite

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unusual for a machine like this.

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Normally, if you get a PC, you know,

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they go loud unless you're fiddling

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around with all the cooling abilities.

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But out of the box, you know, it works

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really, really well. So, yeah, I think

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it's really good effort there for Valve

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on its actual design. We do also have a

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number of ports on the front. We've got

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two USB 3.2 ports on the front. We've

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also on the rear here got a couple more

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of them, USB-C. We've also got a display

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port. And we've also got a HDMI 2.0

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port, not a 2.1, 2.0. If you're deadly

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honest, this machine is never going to

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be up to 8K. So, yeah, kind of see why

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it's got that. It's also got CEC as

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well. So, this basically allows you

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that, you know, if you turned on your

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actual console, turned on your actual

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TV, they can control each other which is

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quite useful to have, too. So, yeah,

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this is really, really awesome. And then

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obviously, the actual Steam main

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interface, the operating system, this is

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something what I love. Probably the star

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of the show in my opinion. I absolutely

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love the Steam operating system. If

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you've had a Steam Deck in the past and

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things like this, you will know how good

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this is. You can actually run Windows

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applications as it were, Windows games

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using the new Proton here. And

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basically, Proton basically does that

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kind of lot of middle level here to

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exchange kind of dot EXE files into

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playable on Linux, what this is running

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on. So, this is really, really awesome.

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And obviously, Steam and Valve have

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perfected this over the years. And you

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know, with the Steam Deck as well, it's

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got really, really great now. And what I

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absolutely love about this interface is

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how easy and clean it is. It's not like

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Windows and trashy. It does give me kind

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of a nostalgia of a proper console

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without too many menus. It's just easy

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and just ready to go. No weird pop-ups,

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nothing strange, no weird can I borrow

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your data for this or anything like

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that. It's absolutely fantastic. But the

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big question you guys want to know is

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what about gaming and benchmarks? What

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kind of performance can we actually get

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out of this? Now, Steam said when they

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first announced this you'd be able to do

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4K gaming. Now they kind of tweak that

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and now say it's up to 4K gaming. Some

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games can do that, you know, if you turn

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on things like FSR, frame generation,

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and things like this. And especially

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it's got AMD chip in it, it only works

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with FSR really. You could use the Intel

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XESS if you wanted to, but obviously I'd

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probably use FSR. But what I would say

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with that for my testing and things like

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this, I would say 4K can work, but it

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would have to work on quite a lot of

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older games. It would not actually work

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on the newest and greatest games. And I

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would certainly say for the next say

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three or four years when new games

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coming out, nah, you wouldn't be able

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probably play 4K and obviously get say

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60 plus frames per second. And just take

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a look right here, you know, obviously

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I've been playing Cyberpunk here and I

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did some tests for you. Have a look at

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this chart right here of the results.

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And you can see just playing here, you

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know, just with native, no frame

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generation, no scaling, no nothing,

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we've got 1080p. We're getting 71 frames

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per second. That was pretty good. Then

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at 1440p, you know, this was quite good

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too. This is 47 frames per second. But

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4K it just fell on its face. It was 17

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frames per second. It was not playable

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whatsoever.

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However though, what you could do is

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that like I said, you could turn on the

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likes of FSR. And obviously this is the

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scaling. This was actually on

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performance mode. And you can see here

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the difference what we are getting. We

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can see that in 1080p it was 105 frames

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per second. It was brilliant at this.

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1440p 75 frames per second, more than

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playable. And then at 4K you were

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getting 32 frames per second. What is

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playable? I would say that. But

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obviously yeah, not probably the best

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one. Like I kind of like um Steam or

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Valve actually recommended that it could

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actually just really do this well at 60

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frames per second. And you can even see

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that hey, at the bottom result, this it

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was FSR for performance. So, this is 50%

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scaling plus frame generation, too. And

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we only get 53 frames per second on

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average. We're not even getting 60 here.

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And with that, I'd say as well as don't

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forget the likes of Cyberpunk's been out

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now almost 6 years this year later on

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this year. I can't believe it. It's been

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6 years. And yeah, it is still quite a

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demanding game, but yeah, it can't still

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do 60 frames per second fully on the

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Steam machine. But never mind, let's

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move on to the next game. And that was

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Black Myth: Wukong. And again, I did

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some testing here and obviously ran the

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benchmarks. And let's have a look at the

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results that we got right here then in

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the charts. And you can see at 1080p, it

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was really great what we got. We got,

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you know, 68 frames per second. 1440p,

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43 frames per second, still pretty good.

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Uh 4K, no. 22 frames per second, it was

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nowhere good. But what I would say is if

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you decided to scale it down in, you

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know, upscaling performance here, 50%

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mode, you know, performance, you did get

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57 frames per second. It was close to

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60, so it was still very good there.

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This one actually did work. But there

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again, if you did turn on frame

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generation, it did actually change this

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a fair bit. You actually got 81 frames

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per second, what was really good to see.

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But obviously, you had to have

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everything switched on, performance mode

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switched on, you name it, to actually

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get this kind of result. But what if we

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try something a little bit older? What

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if we try something like Red Dead

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Redemption 2? I did the same thing

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again, did some benchmarks, and let's

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have a look at the results that we got

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right here. And at 1080p, we got 98

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frames per second, what was absolutely

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amazing, definitely playable. 1440p, 78.

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And then 4K, you know, we got 43 frames

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per second here, what was absolutely

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amazing. Now, because of this, I did

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decide not to bother with frame

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generation, but just to show you here

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with FSR our

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at 1440p, you could get 98 frames per

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second, the same as 1080p. It was really

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great there. But then at 4K, you got 61

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frames per second. So, finally a game

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that actually does go over 60 frames per

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second. On average, this was really,

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really great to see. And it was one of

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the best performing games on the Steam

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Machine that I tested here. But then,

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let's switch over to something even more

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newer. Let's switch to a racing game.

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And I'm going to try out Forza Horizon

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6. I love the Forza Horizon games. And

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let's have a look at the newest one in

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Japan. So, let's have a look at the

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results we got right here. Well, at

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1080p, more than playable. We got 70

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frames per second. 1440p, 57. 4K, 37.

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Still playable, but obviously nowhere

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near that 60 frames per second target.

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But, if you turn on FSR performance mode

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here with the scaling, you can see we

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actually got 61 frames per second. It

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wasn't actually that a lot more.

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Remember we had 57 before. So, this was

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a bit weird to see this. And the same

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with 4K as well. Um we got 45 frames per

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second instead of 37. So, just a little

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increase there. It wasn't actually the

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biggest here. I was actually kind of a

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bit disappointed. Maybe there needs to

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be some more optimizations with this

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game. And obviously running it on the

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Steam Machine cuz it's such a new game.

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Who knows? But obviously it is playable.

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But if I was to play it, I'd play it at

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1440p, I would say. And I decided to

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test it out with Anno 117 Pax Romana.

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And obviously this is a great game to be

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playing, you know, in the Roman kind of

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Empire. But what I would say is this

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game fell flat on its face, as you can

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see from the results right here. At

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1080p, we could only get 31 frames per

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second at native. 1440p, 25. You know,

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you could just about play this. Not very

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well, though. And at 4K, it was 17

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frames per second. It was not good at

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all. But then even turning on FSR

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performance 50% scaling, 42 frames per

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second at 1080p. Again, that's good and

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it can play. 1440p, uh we got 33. Again,

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that is playable. but 4K, no. It was 26

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frames per second. You could play this,

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but personally, if you got into a big

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battle, or you know, lots of things on

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the screen, it's not going to fare out

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well at 4K whatsoever. But then after

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this, I decided to do it one last game,

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and that was a Borderlands 3. And have a

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look at the scores that we got right

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here. At 1080p, we got 86 frames per

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second. 1440p, we got 55. And at 4K, we

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got 29 frames per second. All of them

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are playable, but personally, I'd be

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picking 1440p. But obviously, if you

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turn FSR performance at 50% scaling,

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that does super well. We got, you know,

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119 frames per second, and then we got

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106, and then even 84 at 4K, which is

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more than playable with FSR switched on.

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So definitely 4K, but obviously, this is

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an older game to run here. So I think

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what we can see from this is that

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obviously, yeah, it can play some games

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at 4K, but like I said, they have to be

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older games out there. But it does worry

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me a little bit for the future, that

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obviously, for 4K games, you probably

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won't be able to do that. It'll be 1080p

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or 1440p, probably even in 3 years,

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it'll only be 1080p kind of games. And I

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think one of the big limitations for

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this, the reason why it can't be pushed

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further, is mainly because of the 8 GB

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of RAM that's inside with this card,

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right here. So 8 GB of RAM, you know,

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the likes of Nvidia said so, like the

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5060, and even promote the 5060 with 8

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GB of RAM is meant to be for 1080p,

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really. Maybe some 1440p. And you can

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try out 4K with turning on, you know,

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DLSS, or with an Nvidia card, and

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obviously, some frame generation. You

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can do, you know, up to like three or

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whatever, five times frame generation

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now with it. And yeah, I get that. But

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obviously, it's not a true sort of

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thing, and you do get some sort of

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stumbles along the way. And it seems

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this is very kind of similar for that.

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It is a baseline dedicated GPU inside of

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it. It's like the equivalent of a 5060

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inside of this machine. But obviously,

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frame generation is not as much as a

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5060 out there. You know, you can do

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like three or five times. You can only

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go up to like say two times with FSR

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here with this. But overall though, like

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I said, definitely 1080p, 1440p,

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yeah, you can get some good results with

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the Steam Machine. But what I would say

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is what I'm most impressed about is

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obviously Steam OS. Now, for one thing,

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I am a person who's not a big fan of

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Windows. So, don't get me wrong, I'm a

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fan of all kind of tech out there, but

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you know, the thing is with Windows,

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with all its pop-ups and everything at

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the moment, pulling out all your RAM and

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you know, just using unnecessary data,

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this machine is far better, or I'd say

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Steam OS is far better. And I know a lot

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of people are building their own Steam

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Machines now, cuz Steam OS now has

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become as it were open source as it

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were. It's now free to download by

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anybody. Yeah, Steam has made it

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available there, and you can put it on

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any machine out there. Obviously, it has

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to be mainly compatible with AMD, but

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obviously there are other alternatives

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as well. There's also things like

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Bazzite, for example, something very

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similar. And then obviously that also is

14:21

very similar to the way how Steam OS

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works right now, too. But what I would

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be saying, my two kind of favorite kind

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of computer operating systems right now

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is definitely going to be macOS and also

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the likes of Steam OS or Bazzite right

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now. So, I am really loving it for that

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experience, definitely, than Windows.

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Could you imagine putting Windows on

14:39

this and playing games? It would just be

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awful. You could have just imagined

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that. It'd be a waste of space and time

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to actually make this with Windows. But

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on that note then guys, what do you

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think of the Steam Machine? And what do

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you think of Steam OS? Is this something

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that you would look into yourself? Well,

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let me know in the comments below. On

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that note as well guys, it's time to

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wrap up the video too. So, if you have

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really soon. Take care. Bye-bye.

Interactive Summary

This video provides a detailed review of the new Steam Machine, focusing on its design, performance benchmarks across various popular games, and the overall user experience provided by SteamOS. While noting that the machine isn't the most powerful gaming device on the market, the reviewer highlights its value as a dedicated, compact console-like experience for Steam users, particularly praising SteamOS as a superior alternative to Windows for gaming.

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