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Trump Administration Mulls Trading Oil Futures To Curb Price Surge: Interior Secretary Doug Burgum

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I just want to start first, though, on the matter of Iran.

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Is the energy issue going to bring out a quick resolution to this war?

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Well, I think what we're seeing here, of course, is the strength of President

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Trump. You know, setting clear objectives.

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Our military executing nearly flawlessly.

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And and, of course, what this exposes for the whole world is that we do have a

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terrorist regime that is threatening the world economy.

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I mean, this is a regime that 47 years ago when they when they took over,

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literally took American hostages, now they're holding the entire world economy

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hostage. President Trump and the allies

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understand that on the back side of this, when this is resolved, that the

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world is going to be peace. There's going to be more peace in the

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world. There's going to be more prosperity.

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There's going to be more stability and more freedom of movement of energy for

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all countries. Mr.

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Secretary, I want to ask you about some of the actions being put into motion

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when it comes to responding to the energy markets, including that earlier

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this week you said that domestic oil producers have told the administration

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that they're increasing output in shale basins.

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Could you give us any more insight into who those producers are and what kind of

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increase we can expect from that response and what sort of timeline?

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Well as again, in of course, in America, as you know, these are private

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companies. Some of them are public.

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I'll let them talk about their own production plans and their production

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increases. But certainly when there's a price

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indication that's happening right now, this is an opportunity.

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Shale producers have the ability to increase their production.

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Some of them have drilled but uncompleted wells.

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They just have to turn those on. And of course, we're seeing our

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partners. I just got back from Venezuela last week

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where you've got companies like Chevron that are indicating that they can

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accelerate their their development in places like that.

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And of course, the administration taking steps in places like California where

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we've got, you know, offshore and in California, that if it weren't being

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blocked by the state of California in terms of the regulatory and red tape,

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you know, that that could substantially increase the amount of oil being

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produced in California. So there's a lot we're looking at.

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We're you know, every stone is being overturned.

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The team in D.C. and the team that's here across a whole

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set of cabinet members from from the Trump administration that's here.

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We have 17 countries attending this Indo-Pacific energy security

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ministerial. All of these countries are understanding

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that it's important for them, for their economies and for their countries and

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for their citizens to have energy security.

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And they're looking to buy energy from a trusted ally.

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And of course, here we are in Japan, who's been buying LNG from Alaska for

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more than 50 years without a single interruption because there are no choke

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points when you're buying energy from the United States.

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And that's very different than when you're buying from providers where

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you've got a terrorist regime. And whether it's the directly the

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Iranians or their proxy, the Houthis that can cut off flows of commerce to

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the world, energy security matters to these buyers.

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And that's why we're seeing these senior leaders in some of the largest LNG

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companies in the world. All here.

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There's going to be a lot of deals announced in the next couple of days at

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this event in meaning in the tens of billions of dollars, because there's

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that kind of understanding of the importance of energy security.

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Well, we'd love to hear more about that when those deals are announced.

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Secretary, I hope you can come back to Bloomberg to tell us about it.

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I'm wondering what you're hearing from our allies, from our partners there in

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Tokyo, about triple digit crude oil, how long they can last before this damages

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their economies and how often you're hearing China come up.

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You know, Russia and China have been framed as the winners here.

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Well, I think that one of the things that we're seeing is that, you know,

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China having really benefited with the failed

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sanctions under the Biden administration, when we had failed

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sanctions on Venezuela, Iran and Russia, the three places where we've had

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conflicts in the world. You know, they've been buying for the

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last three or four years. They've been buying discounted oil,

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refined product and discounted oil. I mean, I basically say the failed

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sanctions, the Biden administration just turned to Russia, Iran and Venezuela and

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to China's discount gas station. They took full advantage of that

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building up the of sanctions on Russia. Right.

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Of course. Doesn't that make it cheaper for China?

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Well, it's going to make it more, more expensive because that's going to

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increase the price of that floating oil that's out there right now.

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But there's this temporary waiver on the Russian floating oil.

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Most of that oil had already left Russia.

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So Russia's not benefiting from that. If there's any price arbitrage.

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It was whoever owned the cargo after it left Russia.

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But, you know, that's going to help make sure that we can keep prices down for

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our allies like India and others. And so, again, that was a smart move

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that the administration undertook on their temporary waiver on all that

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floating, you know, the dark fleet oil that was out there.

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And again, to help relieve some of the short term pressure.

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But meanwhile, you know, our military making incredible progress on, you know,

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securing the objectives of this conflict.

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You said, Mr. Secretary, that there's a lot of tools

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that the administration can invoke. I'm wondering what's still on the table.

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Could we see a federal gas tax holiday? Could we see the invoking of the Jones

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Act or even a push to get higher ethanol content gasoline onto the market?

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Well, I think all of these ideas are under consideration.

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And we've got, you know, teams like said that are working around the clock doing

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analysis and effort on this and in an effort to try to focus on affordability

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and keeping the prices down. But this has been our focus since the

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day that President Trump took office. When he took office and declared an

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energy emergency, it was because energy prices were out of control, whether it

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was for electricity or for or for liquid fuels or for heating your home.

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And of course, those prices have dropped dramatically in the last year because

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President Trump's policies of energy dominance, which is about having enough

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energy for low prices at home and being able to help lower prices for our

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allies. I mean, lifting the ban on LNG export

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facilities, which also happened immediately in the Trump administration,

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has allowed us to become the number one LNG export.

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We've displaced two thirds of the Russian gas that was being sold into

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Western Europe this past winter. I mean, the estimates are that that's in

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the tens of billions of dollars that were saved by consumers in our in our

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allies because of us being able to literally come to the rescue with low

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energy prices. And whether it's whether it's

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prescription drugs, whether it's housing, whether it's interest rates,

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whether it's food. President Trump has been on the march

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lowering those prices for Americans. And with this, you know, temporary

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temporary interruption versus to have an opportunity for long term

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transformation. I think this is something that every

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everybody in the world should be joining in.

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If everybody thinks it's okay, you know, to have a regime that killed 40,000 of

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their own people before this recent conflict even started, just because

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people were expressing free speech in the street, I think that's okay to have

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that group of people controlling the world's energy supplies in the world

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market. You know, I'm that I would be surprised.

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I mean, people need to come to a realization that this is a this is a

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global problem. People should be aligned with President

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Trump and aligned with the United States to say, you know, we're not going to we

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shouldn't be we shouldn't be standing for having a group of terrorists control

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the global economy. Yeah.

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Secretary Bergen, we heard from the head of the CME Group today, Terry Duffy.

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You probably know each other. He was speaking at a conference in

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Florida and said the Trump administration would risk a biblical

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disaster, his words, if it attempts to lower oil prices by intervening in

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derivative markets. Right.

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The oil paper market we're talking futures and options.

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Is that's something under consideration. Well, I tell you, there's certainly been

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discussion. We've got a lot of smart people working

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in this administration. There's a lot of smart people that work

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in the energy trading market. The energy trading is one of the biggest

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markets in the world, An intervention there to try to, you know, manipulate

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and lower prices would require enormous amounts of capital.

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That's all I'll say on that front. But I'd say that right now, you know,

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you know, the best way to get prices down is increase supply to match demand.

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And President Trump, again, under President Biden, we were we were

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lowering the amount of energy we were producing.

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We were regulating it out of it, out of business, strangling entire industries

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that were producing either electricity or liquid fuels out of business.

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And now it's gone the complete opposite direction.

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It's about more electricity, more energy.

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The energy abundance, energy dominance is the supply side.

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Let's increase the supply to lower prices.

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We do have a temporary disruption in transit, but the world is well-supplied.

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And that was reflected in the markets just a month ago, which is, you know,

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we've got, you know, new sources coming on whether Venezuela ramping up, whether

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it's other other allies around the world.

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I mean, we're fortunate with new technology.

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The oil producers are producing more all the time.

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Do you think 20 years ago people thought the US was going to run out of oil and

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gas? I mean, let's just step back a second

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and understand how did we go from the sky is falling, We're running out of oil

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and gas. We're running out of energy to becoming

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the world's number one oil producer and the number one natural gas producer, the

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number one LNG exporter. That was because of innovation.

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American innovation drove these dramatic turnaround.

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And that alone has that. That is like $1,000,000,000,000 tax

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break for Americans because of the energy innovation that's come from this

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private sector in the oil and gas and energy industries in our country.

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And now we have an opportunity to share that abundance with with our friends and

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allies around the world. That's what we're doing here in Japan

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with these 17 countries that are here to sign deals with the US for secure supply

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chains from places like Alaska, where we've got enormous amounts of LNG and we

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could be providing all of our partners more secure and lower cost energy across

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the Pacific. Our traditional allies, whether it's

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Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Taiwan, you get all this in our territories.

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I mean, the territories that are part of the US Department of Interior, Guam,

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American Samoa, US, the Marianas Islands.

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These are all places where we've got military bases and in many cases,

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including Hawaii, you know, we're buying foreign oil.

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We have an opportunity in America under President Trump's energy dominance, to

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sell energy even to our own territories and to our own states in the Pacific.

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Alaska's can be a key part of that. And so, again, even as we've got the

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conflict going on, this administration can do more than one thing at a time.

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And there's going to be incredible progress here on building a secure

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energy future for our our allies and friends in our territories, in our

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states in the Pacific. Just very quickly, Mr.

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Secretary, for for clarity, has the administration intervened already when

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it comes to the oil futures market? Not that I'm aware of.

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Has there been any any intervention in those markets?

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