We Need To Talk About The AI Cheating Epidemic
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One of the things that's going on right
now, I don't know if you all know this,
but like cheating with AI is rampant in
universities, in high schools. People
are just using AI. There all these AI
detectors. Sometimes an AI detector
falsely detects something. So like
teachers and professors are just getting
demolished because it's something like
40% of their class uses AI and then they
go to the administration and they're
like, "What are we supposed to do?" And
the administration is like, "I don't
know. They're an international student
that's paying us $45,000 a year to be
here. So, don't expel them because we
need their money. So, administrations
are not doing a great job at managing AI
related things. Professors are on the
front line of like people are cheating,
right? And they're like, we're not sure
what to do. And so I thought this was
super cool because this professor is
like, I'm going to go to a cheating
subreddit and I'm going to ask y'all
instructor here. Why? Why you guys I'm
just wondering why you guys do this. It
seems like y'all are bright bright and
have clearly spent a lot of time
thinking through the cheating process.
Why not just do your
assignments? I'm not here to say f you.
My message is this. We went through grad
school and were professionalized to
write and do our own work. We take our
jobs seriously. Many of us see cheating
not only as an academic dishonesty but a
personal affront. Why are y'all doing
this? I I love this response because
this is sort of what I said. I've been
an orthopedic surgeon for almost 20
years and someone was talking about
this. I thought I would chime in. It's
pretty wild that people think they are
beating the system when they are just
scamming themselves out of the one thing
they are actually paying for which is
the ability to handle pressure and
master a subject. One student mentioned
that they are too afraid to fail. But
the reality is that by cheating, you
have already failed the most important
test, which is building the discipline
to show up and do the work when things
get hard. If you get a degree without
actually learning the material, you're
basically walking into the
workforce/world
with a fake map and no compass. And I
was like, damn, that guy is right. You
guys may have heard me tell this story,
right? Right. And I'm not surprised that
this person is an orthopedic surgeon is
a physician because most physicians
reach a point in their career where they
realize it's not about getting the
grade, it's actually about saving lives.
Right? So I was on when I was a medical
student, I was on a boat in Bise and
there was a guy there who started
vomiting and I was just a medical
student but I was like oh crap like this
guy is vomiting like is he dying? Like
does he have appendicitis? Does he have
a ruptured appendix? Did he drink too
much? Does he have heat stroke? Like
what's going on? Is this like a medical
emergency or not a medical emergency?
Right? So at some point like you have to
learn the material. And I'm a huge
advocate of like learning things. So in
a day and age where AI is like you know
AI can give you this sort of like
shallow to medium level expertise in
anything. But AI does not give you deep
knowledge in anything. It can't do that.
I've tried. I've tested. Right? Right?
If you can I I've asked different kinds
of AIs a 100 different question not
literally 100 but like 16 15 different
questions about different kinds of
meditation. It gives the same answer
over and over and over again. So AI is
kind of like Google version 2.0 where
Google made a lot of information
accessible. AI gives a lot of makes more
information accessible. So the question
is why do people do this? And this is
where I'm a psychiatrist. I'm not an
orthopedic surgeon. So I'm a big fan of
deep learning. I showed you all a paper
today about Chinese elderly Chinese
people who have a victim hero complex.
Catch I don't know if it's going to know
that. So why do people do this? We live
in a world where if you steal a car
that's worth $30,000, you go to jail.
You steal $100,000, you embezzle
$200,000, you also go to jail. You steal
$100 million, you get a fine.
You steal a billion dollars, you get a
bailout.
This is the world. We live it. Like I
I'm not even like I want y'all I know
this is going to be really hard for
people to do because they're going to
clip it out of context. They're like but
but I I want y'all to think about this
historically. Think about it like an
alien from outer space. If you observe
the world that we live in today, and
there is a good argument to be made for
actually learning I love it. I
just made it. But let's not delude
ourselves into un like forgetting that
cheating is probably one of the best
ways to rise to financial prominence and
success in the world. I know a ton of
people and if you guys are in academia
you know what I'm talking about in
academia there's a bunch of people who
have engines with post docks with PhD
students who are grinding with the
credit flowing to the top right there's
great labs I bit you know trained at
Harvard amazing labs there where PI's I
had an amazing PI one day I'll tell you
guys the story it's it's something I've
scripted out about how I became who I
And I had an amazing PI at at Harvard
who was just awesome. So there's like
great people in academia, but there's
also a lot of frauds in academia.
There's a lot of people who take credit
for other people's work. There's a lot
of people in group projects who don't
actually do anything and get a grade
anyway. There's a lot of people who fail
upward at companies. There's a lot of
people who show up are charismatic,
answer questions, but don't do a whole
lot of work. There's a lot of people who
when you send them a draft of the deck
that y'all are putting, they're the ones
who email it to the partner and make it
seem as if it is their own work. These
people get paid. I literally had a
patient of mine once tell me that their
boss was like, "You're going to make me
a lot of money one." Like, "You're going
to make me a lot of money over the next
5 years." Literally what the boss told
him to his face. And you wonder why do
students cheat? They cheat because it
works.
They cheat because it's efficient. But
what if you get caught? Hey y'all, if
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start your journey today. So, let's talk
about sociopathy for a second. This is
something that people do not understand.
When we look at sociopathy, our research
on sociopathy comes from prisons. Now,
why does our research on sociopathy come
from prisons? Because prisons are the
only place that you have a population of
sociopaths. Right? If I'm recruiting for
a study to study something about
sociopathy, where can I go and find
2,000 sociopaths? Because in scientific
research, we want large sample sizes,
right? We look at populations. We're not
doing anecdote. Anecdote isn't science.
I need a large number. So what we do is
we research sociopathy and we come up
with a lot of findings on sociopathy.
But there is a selection bias. Our
research on sociopathy is on stupid
sociopaths, not regular sociopaths, not
intelligent sociopaths. The people who
get punished for cheating, right? So
when we study cheating, how do we study
cheating? How do we know someone is
cheating? Because they got caught. We're
not looking at everybody else. So, my
favorite example of this, this is going
to be so such a randomass example that
if you're in the medical community,
you're gonna you may have heard about
this, but if you're not, you're going to
have no idea. So, there's this exam
called the USMLE step one and step two.
The exam is rigorous. Okay? So, when you
graduate from medical school, you take
these two exams over the course of
graduation. Your scores on these exams
largely determine whether you do what
kind of doctor you become and where you
do residency. Okay, so this is like
basically like I want to go to Harvard.
I want to do dermatology. I want to do
psychiatry. I want to become an
orthopedic surgeon. Are you going to
become a family medicine doc? There's
competitive specialties, non-competitive
specialties. Some doctors make a million
dollars a year. Some doctors make
$150,000 a year. Some doctors work 80
hours a week. Some doctors work 32 hours
a week, 28 hours a week. The other crazy
thing is that some doctors work 34 hours
a week and make 800,000. Some doctors
work 65 and make 600,000. Some doctors
work 60 and make 150,000. So this exam
determines how you spend your days, how
much you put up with, and how
much money you make. And there was a
group of people, I think in Nepal, a
test center started conspiring with
people to let them cheat on the exam.
And so these people were getting like a
a good score is like maybe 230 235
something like that. Okay, just to give
you all a sense. And so like some you
know guy out of Nepal comes out of this
with like a 270 and there are a lot of
people who go to medical school in other
parts of the world who want to come to
the United States because in the United
States you make money. Doctors make a
lot of money here. We don't have
socialized medicine like the UK or
Canada where doctors also make a decent
living there but they don't make bank
the way that they do here in the US. So
the brightest doctors like one of my
roommates when when I was in Boston, you
know, was a guy from I think Austria and
his his step scores were ridiculous and
he was at Harvard and he's like one of
the like so most of most of the
prestigious residencies we take mostly
people who are from the US but we take
the best and the brightest from the rest
of the world and so these guys basically
conspire to cheat on a test. He gets
like a 270 280 damn near a perfect
score. So some Nepalese kid gets a
perfect score on this test. It's a
one-way ticket to Harvard. And then what
happens is the test center is like
great, we we created this structure and
then many people then suddenly what
happened is like many people started
getting 270s, 280s, getting perfect
scores on this test out of Nepal. And so
finally at some point someone figured
out right the USMLE which is the US
medical licensing exam group figured out
that someone is cheating because
suddenly in Nepal like 50% of people or
20% of people are getting perfect
scores. That can't be right. So then
what they did is they voided all their
scores. Everybody gets a zero. You get
an automatic fail. And there was a flood
of posts on the medical school
subreddits about, "Oh my god, I've been
failed. I've been failed. I've been
failed. I didn't do anything wrong. I
didn't do anything." Everyone's like,
"Fuck you. You got caught, bitch."
Right? Cheaters deserve to get caught.
But what I want you all to think about
is the first person.
The first person who figured something
out gets a ticket to wherever they want
to go. So why do students cheat? because
it works. Because it's the way to get
ahead. Because tax evasion means more
money. Because it's insider trading.
Unless you're a member of Congress. Why
do students cheat? Look at the world we
live in. Stupid cheaters don't get
ahead. Smart cheaters are like there's
so much corruption at the highest. I'm
not talking about the US and I'm not
blaming anyone in particular. I mean
just in general, right? Like so don't
get triggered by a particular political
party. Just like look at the world,
pretend you're an alien and tell me
there isn't political corruption in like
50 plus% of countries across the globe.
I I read this book called Shantaram,
which is a book about India. And there's
a great quote in Shantaram. It's a
fiction book. India is the only country
with the honest bribe. Bribes are simply
the way that business used to be done
there is arguably still done there. I
don't really know. I don't live there.
This is why people cheat. And make no
mistake that I've even seen this, right?
So in my office I've had people who are
in banking who are entrepreneurs. It's
like all these like what's funny is I
saw a great quote that the Forbes 30
under 30 has a remarkable pipeline to
prison. So we have these companies like
uh what is it? Therronos and FTX and
like all these like billionaire kind of
companies. All these like gigantic
companies where like oh it's actually
like a Ponzi scheme. Who's that Ponzi
scheme guy maid off right? And you
wonder why do people cheat?
because it's the way to get ahead.
Now, I want to be clear about something.
Often times when you explain a
phenomenon, people think you are
advocating for it. And here's what I've
sort of seen. I'm not. So, I am of the
mind that you should do things honestly.
I am of the mind that hard work does pay
off. So, let's be clear about how
successful cheating is. So if you want a
reliable way to get into the top 25th
percentile of success,
then cheating is not the way to do it.
If you want to do a good job, you want
to become a doctor, I don't think you
should cheat. I think the majority of
doctors do not cheat. The majority of
people who are in the top 25%, I don't
think cheat. I don't think you should
cheat. I don't think it's good to cheat.
But just because I don't think it's good
doesn't mean it isn't effective.
There's a big difference between what is
right and is wrong and what works and
what doesn't work. These are completely
independent axes that many people have
trouble separating. So, please God, do
not think I'm advocating cheating. And
the other really scary thing that I've
done because I sort of can't help help
myself is like when I work with someone
who's a sociopath, I think about why
didn't this person get caught? So, I've
worked in jails and I've worked with
people who are like in investment
banking, right? And they have many
features of sociopathy like they have
substance use and things like that. And
there are a couple things that I found
that are really interesting. So the
cheaters who don't get caught are the
ones who aren't greedy.
This is huge, right? So I want you to
imagine you're that testing center in
Nepal. People flew under the radar. You
can have a couple of blips. It's when
the signal becomes so large
that people notice. And like there's a
ton of corruption out there. There's a
ton of cheating out there. These people
are flying under the radar because they
are below the people who are at the top.
There's the most egregious corruption in
the world and then there's like the
corruption that is underneath that
doesn't get headlines because it's
smaller and more boring than the other
stuff. And I I've had some people in my
office, man, who are just so good at
this. Flying under the radar, right?
Doing things like placing a bribe for a
toll contract.
Like it's such a little thing that no
one thinks about, but now every time
someone uses this road, this money goes
in my pocket instead of somebody else's.
Little bits of corruption, but worth so
much money. And so, oddly enough, I
think the the most successful sociopaths
are the ones who are not overly greedy,
also keep their narcissism in check
because sociopathy is correlated with
narcissism. These are both like cluster
B things. And the most effective
sociopath on the planet is one who knows
when to stop, right? Doesn't keep going,
doesn't want more, gets their money and
then is able to hold it. High
conscientiousness, low neuroticism, and
leaves their ego at the door. And those
people you will never see research on.
You'll see research on the people who
grew so fast, the Forbes 30 under 30,
that everyone was looking them and they
got scrutiny. And so I think if you're a
professor and you want to know why do
students cheat, it's because it's one of
the most effective tactics.
Think about what cheating is.
It's getting the fruits of labor without
the labor. You know what we call that
when we work in corporate? Efficiency
optimization.
Minimizing the denominator, maximizing
the numerator. And the only time it's a
problem is when you're stupid enough to
get caught.
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The video explores the pervasive issue of cheating, particularly with AI in education, and its broader implications within society. The speaker, a psychiatrist, highlights the struggles of educators facing AI-driven cheating and administrative reluctance to act due to financial motives. He contrasts the 'stupid' cheaters who get caught with 'smart' cheaters who succeed by flying under the radar, often operating within corrupt systems. Using examples like a surgeon's perspective on the self-deception of cheating and a medical exam scandal, the speaker argues that while he does not advocate for cheating, it is often perceived as an effective strategy for personal and financial advancement in a world where large-scale corruption can go unpunished or even rewarded. He identifies key characteristics of successful cheaters as being non-greedy, managing narcissism, and knowing when to stop, allowing them to remain undetected and achieve their goals.
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