Tiësto's rule for staying relevant
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>> Executive editor Brian Sassie spoke to
DJ and record producer Tiesto ahead of
his performance at Yahoo's party at
Cannes Lions.
>> It's good to meet you in person. Like I
told you off camera, I I'm a fan. I
listen to you every day in my car. So,
it's good to know it's good to know you
actually exist. So, it's good it's good
[laughter] to see you.
Um
look, you're about to play go on in
front of
hundreds if not thousands of people here
at the Yahoo Beach House.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh close our party for us. What goes
through your head as you get ready to do
this?
>> Well, you know, I've been DJing for a
long time. So, I always adjust to uh
where I am. And I feel tonight there's
people from all over the world here.
We're in France. So, uh the set
is going to be all over the place. Like
I'm just got try to figure it out on the
spot. So, I don't really have a a plan
like here we go.
>> You know, you nail the energy. Uh I
think it reflects the Yahoo energy. We
are very fun. We're very welcoming. How
do you know if an event is going to be
fun? Like how do you how can you tell if
the energy is good?
>> Well, you know, I always hang around
before the event for like a couple of
hours. I meet the people who organize
it. I talk to them what what kind of
crowd do we expect tonight.
And they told me it's going to be very
fun crowd. So, lots of people are really
going to party hard tonight.
>> Yes.
>> So, that makes my job easy.
>> I'm not going to party hard.
>> Makes my job easy.
>> What at this point in your career
how do you plan for an event?
>> The what?
>> How do you plan for an event? Like what
goes into that last-minute preparation?
>> Um you know, I I have like a an arsenal
of uh different records with me. So, I
can really feel the vibe of the crowd. I
think we start off with some more known
records.
And then see how it goes. And then I can
go a little deeper or a little faster or
slower.
It's really um it's hard to prepare
because
you never know what kind of crowd you're
going to get. So, it's it's it's hard to
prepare.
>> I see so many of your like I mentioned,
I've been listening to you for for so
long. But I now see so many of your
clips appear on Instagram and TikTok.
And the crowd is hanging on every note
that you are putting out there every
sound. How do you get the crowd that
engaged?
>> Um, I I don't know. I think I I think
they just they just like what I play so
I just
I I always play from the heart. I love
what I do. I love what I play and uh
it it seems to connect and the
connection is there and then I get more
pumped and the crowd gets more pumped.
>> It's like you just a beat you bring them
in you bring them in.
>> Yeah, the interaction with the crowd and
>> [music]
>> the songs you know it's it's a delivery
of the songs. I think uh
the power of a good DJ is when know what
to play when to play it and I think
that's uh what I've learned over the
years.
>> We've seen so many different variations
of your music. I remember when you
listen to you in the late 90s and now
mid-2000s you've always evolved. Like
what is the state of your music today
and what are you trying to focus on?
>> I think today is actually really
interesting for me because I feel like
I'm back to the roots of how I used to
play. So it's a lot more
yeah, rave trance inspired music.
>> Yes.
>> There's a lot of trance out there but uh
it's also new trance. It's not just like
the old records bring them back.
It's also new new tracks inspired by the
the feelings and the emotions we had
back in the days. And that's what makes
it really special for me.
>> Is trance going back into the clubs? Are
they Is it back yet? Back Is it cool
again?
>> Um,
it's very cool and and it's not just in
the clubs. It's on big festivals. Like
in England and in the Netherlands where
I'm from
you see a a lot of young upcoming trance
DJs now who have their own little spin
on it. And um yeah, the the dance scene
is is bigger than ever so it's
>> We've seen we've seen such a boom in
festivals around the world. Like how is
First of all is that sustainable and how
is that changed what you do as a
business person and even a musician?
>> Yeah, yeah you know I always try to
evolve myself because I get bored myself
of what I do. And then so I have to
evolve, get new music, and do new
things, and
I think it's very important because that
that is also for the people who come to
your shows.
They um
they they never know what to get. They
never It's always a surprise. It's
almost like the Grateful Dead or like or
um
>> You're a legend. You're a legend now.
>> Yeah, the super legend. And what I what
the crowd likes about those shows is
that they never know what songs they're
going to play.
And that's kind of the same with me. You
know, I I can be all over the place. It
could be EDM, could be trance, could be
house, could be fast, slow. So, you just
never know. And that's that's kind of
the nice surprise, I think.
>> Yeah. I recently uh talked to Wyclef,
and he blew me away with this stat. He
said, "Brian, I'm about to drop seven
new albums, and AI is helping me." I
couldn't believe it. How are you using
this technology because I that stat
almost seemed unrealistic to me.
>> Yeah,
I mean, it's hard to consume, I think.
Uh seven albums.
>> Yeah.
>> But I mean, good for him.
>> Yeah, I He's going to be doing a country
album, too.
>> Okay, wow. It's um Yeah, I feel like for
me that would be more like a dinner.
Like they have so many courses. That's
How are you going to eat it all?
>> Yeah, right.
>> So, I prefer to uh
yeah, do a little less, but
>> Are you Are you still Are you using this
new technology in your music creation or
you're still old school? You're doing it
the way you've always done it.
>> Yeah, I'm I'm like mostly old school,
but there are things I can use from AI.
Like, for example, I want to know how
Rihanna sounds on this song. And I can I
can do that just to get the feeling of
it. But I don't use AI literally put it
on the song and put it out there. But I
use AI for seeing how things can sound,
come up with lyric ideas, and go back
and forth, but I don't really use it in
the final product.
>> Is the long show coming back? Like those
good old-fashioned 6-hour shows?
>> I think so. I think also the the the
tracks are getting longer as well.
People are getting the attention span
back
of of listening to longer songs. Like a
year ago
everything over a minute and a half
would be skipped on.
>> Nobody has attention span anymore, so.
>> No. TikTok 15 seconds.
So, I feel like that's definitely going
back. But, it has to be good.
And people
I feel like they're very into live
entertainment again.
So, even if they don't listen to the
track as much online
people love going to festivals and
parties and shows.
The experience of a of a of a dance
music party
is bigger than ever.
>> Do you have a most memorable show that
you played? One that will forever stay
in your head?
>> Uh
>> Besides this one you're going to do
today.
>> Yeah, but besides this one um I so many,
you know, I've done I've done so many
different shows in my life, so much
variety.
From like
a beach party in Rio de Janeiro
for 200,000 people
and uh to the Olympic Games back in the
days.
>> Yeah, the Olympics that was huge. Yeah.
>> I mean, I played a lot of really amazing
places. Also, like a small yacht party
in in in in Saint-Tropez.
So, it's you know, for me it's always
like
the vibe and the people and the
environment that makes it special. And I
could be anywhere.
>> When you're in front of 200,000 people,
what is that like?
That's wild.
>> It's wild. Yeah, it's and especially
there because
when I grew up in the Netherlands, I
never thought I would play a big giant
show in Brazil. So, yeah, it was very
special.
>> Um lastly, cuz you're getting ready to
go on for us. I mean, the crowd is it's
wow. I mean, it's packed. So many early
access folks. Um
what do you think your legacy will be in
music?
>> Um I I think what I what I hope for and
what I've seen so far is that I inspire
a lot of young talented DJs over the
years.
I don't from from Avicii to Martin
Garrix
uh to to many other DJs now even now
still a lot of young upcoming talent, or
when I meet them,
they always say like, you know, Tiesto,
you were one of my
all my inspiration. And I think that's
the best compliment I I ever had, that
you see other successful DJs that became
big and successful because they were uh
aware of my music, and that's really
special.
>> It's good to give back. I can't wait to
hear you uh at our beach house. I thank
you for doing this. I know you got ready
to get ready to go on, so I appreciate
it. Really, congrats.
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In this interview, DJ and producer Tiësto discusses his approach to live performances, the evolution of his music, and the current state of the dance music scene. He emphasizes the importance of reading the crowd, adapting to different environments, and maintaining a sense of spontaneity in his sets. Tiësto also touches on his perspective regarding the use of AI in music production, the resurgence of trance music, and his lasting legacy as a mentor and inspiration to younger generations of DJs.
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