How Many ETFs Should You Really Own? (European investor)
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A few days ago, a friend asked me to
look at his ETF portfolio and over my 19
years of professional investment
experience, both on Wall Street and here
in Europe, I had never seen anything
this ridiculous. My friend had 22
different ETFs, active and passive
funds, large cap and small cap, many
overlapping regions and strategies. This
portfolio was clearly built to maximize
fees for the private banker who
recommended it. Nobody in Europe needs
22 different ETFs, but how many do you
need for an optimal diversified
portfolio? As with all important
questions, the answer depends on who you
are. So, let me walk you through a few
different case studies of my investing
students and what they decided. And I
will share why I personally sometimes
have as many as 10 different ETFs in my
portfolio. Okay, so our first case study
is Jose. He's a 30-year-old software
developer from Spain, now living in
Berlin. He's single, financially
ambitious, and starting to invest from
zero. Importantly, Jose has a high
ability to tolerate investment risk
because he's employed by a government
agency with full unemployment
protections, excellent health care, and
he's got a supportive family back home.
So, even if things go wrong, even if the
market falls by 40% and stays down for
years, even if the economy goes bad,
Jose would not be forced to sell his ETF
portfolio to cover his spending needs.
And this means he can afford to maximize
risk and put 100% of his portfolio into
the stock market. He wants a simple,
passive, set-it-and-forget-it approach.
That is why Jose decided on a one ETF
portfolio. A lot of beginning investors
ask, "Can one ETF really be enough? I
mean, isn't this putting all your eggs
in one basket, which is supposed to be
dangerous?" Well, the thing is, a good
ETF is already highly diversified. Take
for example VWCE, the Vanguard FTSE
All-World Accumulating ETF. This invests
your money in almost 4,000 different
stocks in developed and emerging
markets. If any single company or any
global region gets into trouble, you
should still be fine. And the ETF
structure itself is designed to be very
safe. Even if the fund provider Vanguard
were to go bankrupt, your money is held
separately and that means it stays safe.
So, a single ETF can absolutely be
enough for some investors. That is why
Jose chooses a single global ETF. But
not BWCE. You see, BWCE is an
accumulating ETF. That means when it
gets dividends from stocks, it does not
pay those dividends out. It keeps them
inside the fund. But Jose lives in
Germany. Every year he gets a 1,000 euro
tax-free allowance for investment
income. So, for him, it's optimal to get
a bit of dividends every year. And
that's why he buys the distributing
version of the same ETF. Next case
study. We've got Mary, who is 55 and
lives in Ireland. Over her three decades
at a corporate job, Mary has saved up a
sizable nest egg of 300,000 euros. She
wants to invest this money and add more
to it over the next 10 years until her
retirement. Because Mary is a cautious
person, she chooses a balanced strategy
that can work both before and during
retirement, the 60/40 portfolio. In
short, Mary wants to have 60% of her
money in global stocks and 40% in
high-quality bonds, which can protect
her portfolio in difficult times. So,
how many ETFs does Mary need? Well, it
depends. You can find ETFs which give
you a pre-packaged mix of stocks and
bonds and that means you don't have to
do anything yourself. For example,
there's this one. But Mary wants to have
more control of her portfolio, so she
chooses to have one stock ETF and one
bond ETF. On the stock side, she cares
about socially responsible investing, so
she chooses this fund from Xtrackers,
which is a global stock fund that
filters stocks for their social
responsibility characteristics. And on
the bond side, Mary wants an ETF that is
going to serve as a portfolio
stabilizer. The ETF needs to include
investment-grade bonds, which means low
credit risk, and they need to be
denominated in euros so that Mary
doesn't have any unnecessary currency
risk. Reviewing all this, Mary chooses
the iShares Core Euro Corporate Bond
ETF. And this is Mary's two ETF
portfolio. For our next case study,
we've got a tricky case where the right
answer to how many ETFs is actually
zero. Meet Olga. She is 40 years old,
the owner of a successful marketing
agency, and the risk-taker. Olga is
willing to put 100% of her savings into
the stock market. Specifically, she
wants to invest in developed world
stocks. However, she's concerned about
the geopolitical tensions that Trump is
causing between America and Europe. So,
she wants to invest less in America and
more closer to home. In other words, she
wants to put a home bias in her
portfolio, where 30% is invested in
Europe and the rest is spread
proportionally around the world. Now,
the cleanest way to do this is to use
two stock funds, a developed world fund
plus a European fund. In fact, based on
what she learned from my training, Olga
calculated that if she put 83% of her
portfolio in a developed world fund and
70% in a European fund, this would give
her an overall exposure of 30% to Europe
because the global fund also includes
Europe as part of it. Olga could build
this portfolio by putting 83% into an
ETF like IEUNL, the iShares Core MSCI
World ETF, and 17% into IEUNK, the
iShares Core MSCI Europe ETF. But,
there's an important detail that I
haven't shared. While Olga is originally
from Lithuania, she now lives in Spain,
where she plans to spend the rest of her
life. And in Spain, there's a special
rule where index mutual funds allow you
to move money from fund to fund without
paying capital gains tax. And that's not
the case with ETFs. Like many Spanish
tax residents, Olga does not want ETFs
in her portfolio. Instead, she chooses
index mutual funds. She goes to the fund
platform MyInvestor and chooses these
two funds instead. Next up, let's look
at a student of mine who has six ETFs in
his portfolio and for a good reason. But
before I explain why, here's something
to consider. As you can see, choosing an
optimal ETF or index fund can be a
little bit tricky. You've got to take
into account your age, your goals, and
your tax situation. If you want to learn
how to do this well, you might benefit
from my step-by-step training program
for European investors, the index
masterclass. In the training, I take you
through everything that you need to
know, including the local tax rules in
your European country. If that sounds
interesting, follow the first link in
the description and book a call with my
team to discuss. Okay, but for the next
case study, meet Charles. He's a former
entrepreneur who sold his companies and
now has around 11 million euros in
investments. He's only 50 years old, but
he's fully retired and pursuing his
hobbies. Charles has also chosen a
typical 60/40 retirement portfolio of
stocks and bonds. So, why does Charles
hold six different ETFs? Well, it's
because he is very conservative and
protective of his wealth. Charles splits
his large portfolio among three
different brokerage houses, Interactive
Brokers in Ireland, Saxo in Denmark, and
Julius Baer in Switzerland. Julius Baer
is a private bank and it's quite
expensive, but Charles values its
reputation for customer service and
confidentiality. And at each of these
brokerages, Charles reproduces the same
60/40 stock bond portfolio, but at every
brokerage he purchases ETFs from a
different fund provider. He wants an
extra layer of diversification. So, on
the stock side, his portfolio includes
VWCE, IUSQ, and SPYY. And on the bond
side, he's got this one and this one and
this one. For most beginning investors,
this kind of six ETF portfolio would be
total overkill, but Charles' philosophy
is that no matter what happens with any
of the brokerages, no matter what
happens with any fund provider or
individual fund, he will be fine. And
because he's got a good accountant and
tax adviser, the added complexity in his
case is totally worth it. Next up, we've
got one of my most sophisticated
students with a portfolio that is on the
verge of being too complicated, but it
still makes sense for him. So, Bruno is
from Argentina, but he lives in
Switzerland. He is 35 years old and he
works in private equity. Bruno enjoys
researching
and takes a very hands-on approach with
his money. Now, for most of his
portfolio, he wants to be maximally
diversified. So, he's going to put 70%
into an all world fund that tracks
large, mid, and small cap companies
around the world. Most global ETFs only
include large and mid cap companies, so
by adding small caps, Bruno gets some
extra diversification. The next 10% of
the portfolio he puts into a gold ETF.
He knows that long-term gold is expected
to underperform stocks, but in the short
to intermediate term, gold in small
amounts can be an excellent portfolio
diversifier because gold and stocks tend
to move up and down at different times.
Then, he puts another 10% into a REIT
ETF. This is an ETF which buys real
estate investment trusts. Bruno chooses
it because real estate is a massive part
of the global economy which is
underrepresented in the stock market.
And finally, with the last 10% of his
portfolio, Bruno wants to play. He wants
to make some market bets. Right now,
he's allocating it to a clean energy
ETF. He knows that these kinds of sector
bets don't work out that well for most
people, but he believes in his own
ability to make good choices. Okay, so
this is a portfolio with four major
components. Building it would normally
take four to five ETFs, depending on
whether you can get all company sizes in
a single ETF or whether you need two
different funds. But there's another
nuance. Because Bruno lives in
Switzerland, he actually has access to
US-domiciled ETFs, not only European
ones. So, here are the funds he actually
uses to build his portfolio. Okay, but
what about me? How many ETFs do I have
in my portfolio? Well, it depends on the
moment in time. There are some days when
you might look at my portfolio and I
might have as many as 10. It might be a
mess of overlapping funds, but that is
simply because I'm doing YouTube videos
and webinars and workshops for my
students where I demonstrate buying and
selling different funds. On a long-term
basis, I have a pretty simple all-world
portfolio covering large, mid, and
small-cap stocks. That said, I do this
across multiple brokerages in different
countries to protect my family's wealth.
And at every brokerage, I often buy a
different version of the same ETF from a
different provider. As a result, I have
five major ETFs in my own portfolio.
Now, all of the case studies I walk you
through are based on my students who
built their own ETF and index fund
portfolios on their own. I never give
investment recommendations. I don't give
you the fish, I teach you how to fish so
that you can make good decisions. So,
they completed my step-by-step training
program for European investors, the
Index Masterclass, and they started
investing. They also benefited from the
country tax briefings that we provide,
which makes it much easier to choose the
right funds for your local tax rules. If
you too would like to start ETF
investing or to improve your portfolio,
I invite you to follow the first link in
the description, check out our program,
and book a call with my team to see if
you are a good fit.
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This video discusses how many ETFs an investor truly needs, debunking the myth that a massive number of funds is beneficial. Through several case studies, it illustrates how factors like risk tolerance, tax residency, financial goals, and wealth preservation strategies dictate the optimal number of ETFs in a portfolio, ranging from a single fund to more complex structures for advanced investors.
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