don't believe everything you see on a

product that you're buying because we're

being exposed to really toxic chemicals

that we know cause harm okay so I've got

everyday products that we're all using

is this good no what about this

absolutely not is this a good one yes

this throw that out good bad there are

so many issues with that this perfect

what about this this is one of the worst

products that you can use I've been

using it every day get rid of them

goodbye Dr Ivon burkart is a

toxicologist whose groundbreaking

research has unveiled the shock truth

about the hidden risks of toxins found

in everyday products and what we can do

about it we don't know what we're

exposing ourselves to because by law in

Europe and in the US manufacturers do

not have to disclose certain ingredients

but we finally have proof that there are

links to increased rates of cancer

infertility obesity we know that a

surface scratch on a non-stick piece of

cookware can release 9,000 particles

into your food and those microplastics

have been found in lungs heart brain

penis there's microplastics in my penis

yes and scientists have found that

eventually we will become more plastic

than we are humans if we continue at

this rate you seem really pissed off

about this I'm really angry that people

have to suffer I mean these chemicals

are causing children they have cognitive

delays they start having behavioral

issues and I think it brings up a lot of

emotions for me because I've been

personally impacted but I

think of how many millions of people

around the world are struggling and

don't know why so what are the most

important things that we can do to have

the biggest impact number one

this has always blown my mind a little

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burkart I've consumed a lot of your

content I've seen your videos I've read

a ton of your work just to start if you

had to sort of encapsulate the warning

that you're communicating to people into

a sentence what would that warning

be don't believe everything you see on a

container a bottle or a product that

you're buying why what's the consequence

is that if you're believing in the

marketing and what you see on the front

of the label instead of actually reading

the ingredients you could be exposing

yourself to toxins that you probably

don't want to be and what's what mission

are you on yon well I'm on a mission to

empower people

to avoid environmental toxins so they

can protect their families and really

using science and evidence to make

informed decisions that affect their

health and what is the the macro picture

here when you think about the world

we're living in and how exposed we are

to toxins do you think people are at all

aware of the toxins that we're consuming

every day I think now people are

becoming more aware but there are new

toxins that are emerging every day and

it's simply a consequence of how the

system is set up and it's mainly because

chemicals and products are not required

to be tested for safety before they're

released onto the market at least in the

US and many other regions of the

world and so what happens is people are

buying these products and we're being

exposed to chemicals that we have no

idea how they are actually impacting our

health if they're harmful or not and

we're basically guinea pigs in a massive

human experiment that no one signed up

for that we didn't consent to and what's

the risk well the risk is that we go

about our daily lives not knowing what

we're consuming or being exposed to and

then later on in life

unfortunately fall ill and suffer from

some chronic

disease are there particular illnesses

that are most closely associated with

toxins in our environment and toxins

that we're consuming every day yes so

cancer is probably one of the most clear

associations as well as

infertility and more widely known are

issues like not being able to conceive

having a decrease in sperm count sperm

quality and the fact that sperm count

has declined by 50% in the last 50 years

is pretty

alarming and who are

you I'm a toxicologist but I'm also a

mom what's a toxicologist so I study the

basic science of poisons how do

chemicals interact with the cells in our

bodies and how do they cause harm but

not only that how do our cells defend

themselves against these toxins why did

you choose to do

toxicology you know you could have done

anything with your life you could have

pursued anything I found it by

accident was it really an accident

though I don't know I think I was led

there I think I've always been

interested I think I think I was

meant to share

this and I think it brings up

um a lot of emotions for me because I've

been personally impacted but I

think of how many millions of people

around the world are are struggling and

don't know why and so if I can bring

awareness to

that then I feel like my mission is

complete but I studied toxicology

because just in my body I knew that

something was a Miss we need to study

this environment around us we need to be

more aware and more conscious of what

we're doing and when I was in undergrad

and I discovered toxicology I was living

the absolute conventional lifestyle and

sick all the time and wondering why and

just thinking that it was normal and I

Shrugged it off and it wasn't normal and

I reversed

it it's so personal for you isn't it it

is

absolutely

why not only because I've been

personally impacted

but I want my children

to to have the best version of

me so I can look after them and so that

I don't have to worry about them having

some of the problem that I

had and you scared about that I'm

concerned and I take action on it every

single day I think about it all the time

but not in not in a a scared way just

what else can I

do what else can I research what else

can I learn how else can I implement

this and how else can I share this so

that other people can implement it

because there's so much going on in the

scientific Community about these talks

chemicals that the general public

doesn't

know and we all have a right to

know we got any tissues

Joe thank

you didn't expect to

cry yeah I mean I mean I can understand

but it's it's Illuminating because it

really shows why you're doing what

you're doing and how much it means to

you which I think is really important um

and it makes it makes a lot lot of

things make sense frankly but also you

know I haven't had kids yet so I don't

have that lens that I guess comes with

being a parent and that concern of I

think about myself and I'm fairly young

so but but I can imagine in a world

where I had kids I'd become Ultra

cautious and ultra um thoughtful yeah

especially coming from where I came from

where I had those problems and just to

think if I can prevent that in my

children and and help people prevent

that in their children then that's the

best outcome for

everyone I actually did never pay

attention to toxins before I studied

toxicology I was in the lab I was

looking at really toxic chemicals

chemicals that we know cause harm and

cause cancer but as I went on with my

life I started to face more and more

increasing health issues increasing in

severity until I was faced with

fertility challenges and I was unable

and unwilling to accept at the time

that IVF or inital fertilization would

be my only option if I wanted to have a

family and I was unwilling to accept

that because I said wait a second I know

that there's an environmental component

to this there's chemicals in our

environment that are impacting my

fertility that's what I studied in the

lab I studied fertility and can cancer

so it was quite shocking to me that I

actually started to struggle with some

of these conditions but no one could

give me answers and what was missing

from my view at the time was these lowd

dose chronic exposures over a lifetime

to toxins and chemicals

in our products in our homes in our

outside world that nobody really has

connected to some of these disease

States and so it wasn't until I embarked

on a journey of self-discovery and

research that I started to uncover the

linkages between these lowdose

environmental chemicals and products

that we're using all the time and how

they impacted my health and when I

started to remove them and replace them

with safer options my health returned my

health recovered and I was actually able

to conceive my own children without

assistance how old were you when you

were first told that IVF was the only

route I was 32 okay and you'd had tests

done and stuff and at that time to see

if you were your foot sort of fertility

levels and things like that right I was

actually not having a cycle at that

point for nine months you didn't have a

period at all I didn't have a period so

that is quite striking because as a

person in their 30s people don't go

through menopause and have you know a

lack of a period until sometimes 50

years old that's almost 20 years earlier

than that that was really shocking to me

something was clearly wrong my body was

screaming for help and I had no other

option but to take matters into my own

hands as a toxicologist someone who's

trained and done the

research when you were told that you

know IVF is the only route what did they

say was the the problem

because if someone's telling you that

IVF is only rot presumably they're

saying that you're maybe implying

between the lines that you're broken in

some way or that it's normal not to have

a period at 32 like what were they what

was the what does the system tell you is

the problem with

you that's the issue is that they didn't

they had no answers they couldn't tell

me what the issues were they said oh you

look normal in tests but if you're

unable to get pregnant on your own well

the other option is ibf or adopt

and as a toxicologist was there anything

that you needed to relearn or reand

based on your training that you've

discovered wasn't true I had to relearn

almost everything because as a scientist

I was trained as a toxicologist day one

to follow the path that and the belief

that the dose makes a poison that the

more you're exposed to a chemical the

more severe the outcome and that's not

always true because as we know now there

are chemicals in the environment

known as endocrine disruptors at very

low levels have higher activity than

they do at hide levels so it's

completely backwards so I had to relearn

everything that I had learned as a

student in order to recover and in fact

I was so resistant and so hesitant to go

outside of what I

knew that actually helped uh kept me

stuck for much longer than I needed to

be did you say with endocrine disruptors

that sometimes lower doses are worse

than high doses exactly how can that be

possible they're called non-monotonic

dose responses that's a technical term

for it but it's basically because the

hormones in our bodies are present and

active at such extraordinarily tiny

amounts that any amount of excess or

chemicals coming from the environment

could trigger those same Pathways could

be devastating on a cellular

level and when you think about the

products that we use daytoday whether

they're beauty products or you know

might be a frying pan or a SP plastic

spatula or anything how many of these

sort of day-to-day consumer products

have toxic chemicals in them or at least

one toxic chemical almost

everything and it might shock you to

think that is almost everything but

unfortunately it is it's because our

world now is overcome with plastics

single-use Plastics plastic containers

food

containers almost everything that we

know of has some plastic element to it

and that's really at the root of a lot

of the problems that we have because the

chemicals that are used to create the

Plastics are leeching the Plastics

themselves are breaking up leading to

microplastic and nanoplastic release

that we are just being constantly

bombarded with on a daily basis and what

about beauty products because I had this

conversation with my partner recently so

we're in the process now I'm 32 years

old so it's that kind of season of life

where you start thinking about having a

family and kids and such and so we've

both become become pretty conscious of

the products that we're applying every

day from shampoos to deodrant for the

most part if you grab a product off of a

store shelf nine times out of 10 there

are chemicals of concern in them and

we're talking about major retailers big

box stores if you go to smaller let's

say health food stores and chains like

that then the percentage is much lower

so the you have a better chance of

getting a safer product at a health food

store and just to before we get into it

can you give me an overview of your

personal education and the career

Journey you've traveled that have

resulted in the wisdom that you have now

yes so I am a PhD toxicologist I started

studying reproductive toxicity in the

laboratory as an undergrad and we were

looking at the effect of environmental

chemicals that are pretty much

everywhere in the environment they're

the products of combustion so the

combustion of gasoline in cars um in

cigarettes in cooking so some of these

chemicals we looked at the impact on of

them on the reproductive system in males

and females and what we saw was pretty

striking such that when the animals are

challenged with these chemicals and

they're pregnant then The

Offspring not only the daughters and the

sons but also the grandchildren are

impacted by the grandmother being

exposed how does that work so when a

woman is pregnant with a female daughter

her developing ovaries which will then

someday become contain the eggs that

will then become the grandchildren are

also in the same environment as the

mother so what the what the mother is

being exposed to the baby is also being

exposed to and also her grandchildren

are being exposed so if a mother is

exposed to toxins her baby's babies are

being exposed to those toxins that's

exactly right so there's sort of a

generational

toxification

of people yeah that's called

multi-generational toxicity and it even

goes a step further transgenerational

that's when great grandchildren can be

impacted because what's happening in

utero is epigenetic changes so changes

to our DNA that are then being passed

down through our progyny so great

grandchildren even if they live a

perfectly clean lifestyle and haven't

been osed to toxins could have already

been genetically predisposed to

developing some of these conditions are

there particular toxins that you think

are especially susceptible to this sort

of

transgenerational passing down through

mutations in our DNA yeah it's the

endocrine disruptors things like

phalates bisphenol past chemicals a lot

of the endocrine disruptors that some

people are familiar with other people

are not but that are found in our

everyday products like non-stick

cookware the makeup and cosmetics that

we're using the plastic containers that

we're buying food

in what is an endocrine disruptor

explain that to me like I'm N9 years old

okay so in the human body we have eight

endocrine glands so they're little

centers in our bodies and they secrete

hormones and these hormones regulate

pretty much everything that you can

think of so from sleep wake digestion to

how well your brain works cognition to

metabolism so how quickly you can burn

calories uh how much fat you deposit how

much fat you can lose and also your

fertility if you're able to have

children someday so endocrine disruptors

are coming in and they're basically

disrupting like just as the name

indicates they're throwing the balance

off they're messing up with the

signaling they're causing everything to

go Haywire in our bodies so we really

need to be careful especially for

children whose bodies are rapidly

developing and then you're throwing in

these endocrine disrup chemicals it's

like adding gasoline to you know like a

dumpster fire basically and as it

relates to children are they especially

susceptible to endocrine disruptors

because they're in a developmental stage

absolutely so with children it's

extremely unfortunate that they are the

most susceptible and most vulnerable to

a lot of toxins because like you said

they're growing they're not able to

detoxify in fact a child's

detoxification capacity doesn't ful F

develop until the age of 10 years so

detoxification capacity what's that yes

so the ability of your body to detoxify

chemicals we all have it everyone has it

the liver and the kidney are the detox

organs the main ones but we have this

capability of being able to break these

chemicals down and remove them so that

they don't cause harm in our bodies but

with children that ability isn't fully

developed until the age of 10 years old

so if you think about all these little

children they're being exposed even

before they're born after they're born

and then they can't even get rid of

these chemicals from their body until

they're 10 years

old and what are some of the illnesses

or diseases that we see in children that

are have been heavily exposed to these

endocrine disruptors in our everyday

environment the worst is cancer so we

see an increased risk of childhood

leukemia with certain exposures there's

also neurodevelopmental delays so

cognitive deficits in children that are

exposed to these chemicals we also see

increased rates of

obesity obesity in children is

skyrocketing now unprecedented levels

that we have not seen before and it's

likely due to these chemicals and this

genetic predisposition and programming

that kids are just being dealt the worst

hand possible what about things like

neurod Divergence is there links between

things like ADHD and these endocrine

disruptors and you know ADHD autism etc

etc yeah there is a link actually so

some of these chemicals have been known

to worsen these

behavioral conditions like ADHD and

autism like you

mentioned and have they have they done

studies on this yes so there's

associations where they'll measure the

amount of these chemicals in children

through their urine or through their

blood and they'll confirm the severity

of these conditions and be able to

correlate it with the amount of the

chemicals in their

bodies and what about um the impact this

has on things like puberty because I was

reading some stats before that I think

it's is it women are having girls are

getting going through puberty earlier

and earlier or is it later and later I

can't remember it's one of the two it's

earlier earlier and earlier so children

who are being exposed to these chemicals

are experiencing earlier puberty earlier

breast development earlier um menstrual

cycles and what that does is actually

shift the entire window because if you

think about it we're born with a c a set

number of eggs in our ovaries once those

eggs are gone that's when you start

having menopause so what's happening

when you start your period earlier you

actually go through menopause earlier

and that can come with this whole host

of risk factors bone fractures and so on

and so forth and this is because of

those endocrine disruptors likely yes

how how would they

know they've done studies on this as

well so you can see that they've done um

observational studies where they'll ask

uh families uh when did your child start

using Beauty and personal care products

which are loaded with these

chemicals the children who used more

products have more phades more endocrine

disruptors in their blood and in their

urine and then they have earlier puberty

unfortunately and as it relates to

fertility generally in

adults are you aware of the shifts we've

seen in infertility like what are the

numbers how do you quantify the

changes well over the last 100 years or

so there's been a drastic decline in the

number of live births so that's one of

the numbers that I have looked at

recently right so it isn't necessarily

that more people um are experiencing

infertility it could be a measure of

people are having children later could

be um people are just having less

children but it is an overall measure of

uh population level so it looks like

there's just less children being born

and that could be for a whole number of

reasons right are people not able to

have kids are they choosing not to have

kids I would almost argue that it's the

fact that people are not able to have

kids when you correlate that with the

fact that sperm counts have declined by

50% worldwide that is absolutely

astonishing we're not at the point yet

where humans will go

extinct but if we continue on this path

and don't make changes which there are

many ways that we can make

changes then we might be looking

at population decline

isn't it the job of the FDA or some kind

of government body to regulate the

chemicals that are in our everyday items

you would think right in Europe the

European commission has a much better

system of regulating chemicals so they

require upfront Chemical Testing

depending on the amount that is produced

so chemical manufacturers need to

provide data so they have to fund these

studies

these laboratory studies they have to

fund them and provide this package of

information to the European chemicals

agency or eeka and once they do that

then based on the amount that they're

producing you have to give more

information you have to have more

testing such that if you're producing

several metric tons of a chemical you've

got to do a whole bunch of studies to

really prove that it is safe not only

for people but also animals and the

environment that it's not going to be

something that is persistent that builds

up that can't be broken down that starts

to accumulate because that's what we're

seeing now with some of these chemicals

and that's really the problem is that

they don't break down they don't go away

they don't disappear so then what

happens it basically disrupts the entire

ecosystem of the planet and we're we're

not disconnected from that right we're

connected to the ecosystem we rely on

that so if if we're looking at it from

the standpoint that testing of chemicals

upfront that is absolutely something

that we should should be doing but no

one is really mandating that except in

Europe why don't they mandate it in

other parts of the world like the United

States our system wasn't set up like

that over here I think we've got a

different

relationship um with between the

government and with industry I think

there is a lack of regulations a lack of

requirements for toxicity testing

combined with the lack of corporate

responsibility so a lot of these

manufacturers don't want to have to foot

the bill and pay millions of dollars to

have testing only to show that this

chemical that they are so excited in

love with can't be used because it's

toxic do you think it is malicious and

intentional in terms of do you think

there's a concerted effort to make sure

that the government doesn't increase

regulation on these industries so that

they can continue to produce lowcost

items that

are have long shelf lives and um are

cheaper I would hope not but it's

looking like that and it's just this

whole system is not set up to protect

consumers and then the environment at

least in the US so you you don't have

your period yourself you're told that

you your best option is to go do

IVF you then go on a bit of a journey

yourself to unlearn lots of things you

learn in toxicology

training what was the ending to that

story in terms of what did you do then

did you go find a different doctor did

what did you change and what is the

ending of that story well I fell down a

rabbit hole of research and I had to

pick myself up and say hey you know what

I'm going to take matters into my own

hands I'm going outside of the route

that I thought I was supposed to go down

the mainstream route so I kind of went I

went sideways a little bit and I went

with integrative and functional medicine

and so I went looking for the root cause

the root cause which is not necessarily

what I was being guided toward with the

conventional route so with integrative

and functional medicine there was

personalized testing and of course this

was all upfront cost for me but this was

something that was absolutely vital so I

found a way to pay for these tests and

they told me exactly what I'm deficient

in what I need to do and they guided me

so I first started with removing

inflammatory foods and really dialing in

on my diet and I saw relief from my

symptoms in within two weeks very rapid

once I started removing these triggers

that were causing digestive problems

then I started to see Improvement very

fast but it was then going on six months

and I kind of felt like I hit a plateau

said there's something else that's still

triggering me there's something else

that's still bothering me and I don't

feel 100% even though I've done all the

work I've cleaned up my diet I cook all

my meals at home I have sourced the best

Quality Meats and vegetables I even

started growing my own food and there

was still something there something was

not not right and so then I started

targeting things in my home my makeup

cabinet in particular was a huge source

of trigger for me in terms of chemicals

and toxicity once I started to clean out

my makeup drawer I really saw a shift

because of what I was doing on a

day-to-day basis I was using several

cosmetic products I was absolutely

obsessed with perfumes and fragrances

once I removed those one by one slowly

disentangling myself from their just

being obsessed with them I started to

see real change and I noticed more

energy return I was feeling more fit I

had more mental Clarity more Focus I

didn't have as many headaches and

migraines anymore and I just started to

feel like a more vital person like more

vitality and did your period return it

did it did return and it returned and I

was pregnant within nine months of that

first the first time when I started this

whole journey within nine months I was

pregnant I had my period back within I'd

probably say three months and then six

months after that once I got rid of all

the beauty and personal care products I

also looked into my Oral Care my oral

health I had Mercury amalgam feelings

and Mercury is extremely toxic to

reproduction but also to the brain once

I got rid of the Mercury out of my teeth

that was when things just really took a

nice a huge leap in my in my health jour

journey and how were you able to measure

the improvements I know you can say you

know I felt better but could you measure

the improvements biochemically in a lab

somehow Yes actually that was part of

this entire Journey so there was regular

routine testing going on whenever we

made changes I was working with these

practitioners and I made changes and we

would do tests and say look your numbers

came back it looks great you removed the

Mercury amalgam fillings from your teeth

your mercury levels have dropped really

yeah it was pretty shocking and I felt

almost instantly better when they took

those out of my mouth it was that

striking of an effect knowing what you

know surely it's built up a bit of um I

don't know a bit of a if I knew all that

you knew I think about toxins in our

environment I would be a a really

annoying person at like every dinner

party and B there'd be a certain sense

of I guess emergency and urgency to me

because I'd be looking around all my

friends and I'd be if I understood the

consequences of them drinking from that

plastic container or putting that

product on their face I feel like I'd

trying to be Shout Shout at the world to

tell them to stop do you do you feel a

sense of that you you directly witnessed

the impact that making these changes and

detoxifying your environment had on you

do you feel a sense of like you

know absolutely I mean I can't even tell

you how much passion it has ignited in

me to be able to share this information

and spread it as far and wide as

possible because it's literally

affecting every single person on this

planet and I do find it sometimes

challenging not to call someone out and

say hey be careful with that but you

know I think it comes from being a

living example and I found that that is

much more effective at being a living

example instead of telling people don't

do this don't do that showing them

what's possible look at what happened to

me look at my journey look at the

benefit that I feel and then once to

start removing these things and making

these simple swaps it's about simple

small incremental shifts that anyone can

do over the long term because it's

really about uh it's a marathon not a

race it's not about you've got to throw

everything away and you've got to hide

under a rock because I tried that and it

didn't work and it caused more stress

and stress is harmful MH so being a

living example empowering people with

information educating about the problem

but coming with the

solution you mentioned cancer is one of

the downstream consequences of living in

a toxic

environment and we talked about how

sperm quality has reduced over the last

couple of decades when we look at the

stats around cancer are there any stats

in particular that you think are most

clearly associated with us living in

such such a to toxic environment one of

them that always brings to mind is

breast cancer because I I think I read

or heard that breast cancer is on the

rise or has been rising for the last

couple of decades and when you look at

the Western World versus something like

you know a tribe in in Africa they don't

see the same levels of breast cancer

yeah that is definitely a concern

because cancer historically was a

disease of age aging it wasn't so common

that you see cancer in your 30s 40s and

even 50s now we're seeing a shift the

window is moving earlier and earlier

cancer incidence like you said breast

cancer incidence is definitely on the r

I myself never knew anyone that suffered

from breast cancer or survived it until

I hit my 30s then I knew five people

that had it including two people that I

worked with in the toxicology lab and

what are your suspicions about the root

causes of this Rising

cancer I definitely think there is an

huge environmental component to it

because a lot of what was believed

decades ago was that disease and cancer

incidents had to do with your genes you

were just genetically

predisposed you were unlucky but in

actuality what we're seeing now is that

the environment plays such a massive

role in whether or not you actually have

cancer so just because you have the pre

disposition to developing breast cancer

such as the braco gene doesn't mean

you'll get it it really depends on your

lifestyle and how you lived but also how

your ancestors lived right we talked

about about the multigenerational effect

of these chemicals depending on how your

ancestors lived how your grandmother and

how your mother lived could predispose

you to this and have there been any

studies that show the impact of these

sort of everyday chemicals on cancer

risk yes and that's something that is I

don't want to say that it's exciting but

I'm glad that we finally have proof I

don't want to see these studies I I hate

seeing this actually I'm really angry

that people have to suffer with cancer

because it's so

preventable there was a study recently

that looked at removing certain

ingredients from Beauty and personal

care products so women without any

history of breast

cancer were asked to remove these

ingredients from their products for 28

days so that's very short four weeks

right they took cells from the breast

tissue they were all normal they

measured the amount of breast cancer

gene

expression after 28 days they took

another sample so after 28 days of

removing these ingredients they took

another sample and they saw that the

breast cancer gene expression

dropped and the only thing that they

were asked to change about their

lifestyle was to remove these

ingredients from their beauty and

personal care products and which

products were they told to remove and

what ingredients were those it was skin

care deodorant shampoo things that most

people are using and the ingredients

were

phades which can often be found in

fragrance so the seemingly innocuous

little term on the ingredients list

fragrance or

parfume can contain a huge number of

chemicals it's hidden behind this

umbrella term because by law in Europe

and in the US manufacturers do not have

to disclose this it is considered trade

secret and within that chemical mixture

are known

carcinogens endocrine disruptors like

phalates and the most potent allergens

known to

man and with phalates the reason that

they're in fragrances and that

manufacturers love them so much is there

what are known as film formers so it

helps the fragrance to stick to surfaces

like your skin your clothing and it

helps to make it last longer and linger

so if you've ever sprayed something on

yourself and are still able to smell it

hours later that's a Telltale sign that

you've been exposed to thetes that you

have thetes in that fragrance in that

product and how many deant on the Shelf

have phalates in them if it's got a

fragrance in

it almost all of them okay it's code

it's code for endocrine disrupting

valades essentially you can assume that

and in fact it's safe to assume that

they contain allads so I mean this is

one of the deodrants that I often use um

it's just a I mean for anyone that's

just listening it's just like one of the

doents You' find on a shelf in any store

that comes in a little is this an

aluminium can yeah it is an aluminium

can does this have thetes in it how do I

know so you turn turn The Container

around and check the ingredients list do

you see a word fragrance or SL parfume

yeah fragrance brackets

parfume that's what you're looking for

okay so I shouldn't be spraying this all

over my body right okay so sometimes

you'll see on there it'll say th free

okay right that's helpful but that still

doesn't take away the fact that there

are known carcinogens and allergens in

there so if you've got any kind of

respiratory problems any kind of skin

problems and you just don't want to

expose yourself to unnecessary

carcinogens then it would be beneficial

to avoid fragrance what about a little

spray just

a I mean it depends is that really going

to benefit you is are you going to get

any effect from that little spr want to

smell so this is why I spray this

because you know this top is quite tight

so if if it's tight and it's hot in here

I'll end up smelling so I just spray it

and then I'm really do it's public

service for other people really I'm fine

to smell myself I can't even smell it

but it's for you know Jack and the team

well the question would be can you find

a safer alternative and the answer is

yes how do I find a safer alternative

what am I looking for so you don't want

fragrances and you definitely yes so

avoid the word fragrance unless it says

that the fragrance comes from essential

oils okay but but if it comes from

essential oils will it still make me

smell nice yes okay yes because that's

where aromatic compounds come from they

come from plants but just to give you

more context on this aerosol spray this

is one of the worst products that you

can use I've been using it every day

yeah so I'll tell you why aerosols use

propellants propellants are derived from

petroleum and there was a recall on

thousands of products within the last

couple years that the propellants were a

source of benzene contamination and

Benzene is a known human carcinogen that

you do not want to be inhaling because

what you inhale goes to your brain it

goes quickly all over your body through

the bloodstream you don't want to be

delivering a known human carcinogen into

your bloodstream you're just it's not

helping you at

all because Benzene is known to cause

leukemia in

people so it's a no-brainer if you want

to avoid that to avoid aerosols but not

only that if you think about how you're

actually applying the product you're

spraying it like this right in a stream

and it heads toward your face then

that's also an inhalation risk because

there's particles in there there's

solids in there you don't want to be

inhaling unnecessary things so the best

option for deodorant is to look for

something that has essential oils and is

a roll on or a stick solid is there

anything on the label that I can trust

when it comes to doents is is there like

a certain term that I'm looking for you

said phate 3 phate 3 is there anything

else that yes so dalite free and paraben

free are definitely helpful okay because

then we know at least two of the known

endocrine disruptors that we have

evidence on are not found in that

product but that doesn't exonerate

everything else we still need to be

diligent about the ingredients because

they are sources of contamination of

byproducts of carcinogens and hidden

toxins essentially it is pretty crazy

that I could get a lighter and go and it

would be flammable and then I spray that

on my body like like it's like I'm

lathering myself in petrol or something

it is pretty crazy that's essentially

what that is petrol yeah because it's

coming from petroleum all the

propellants and some of the other base

ingredients I'm sure I haven't looked at

it but I'm almost certain because that

is the source of the majority of

ingredients go into these products this

is my last day ever using aerosol

deodrant let's pull up a

bin

okay

goodbye okay that's gone okay is this a

better alternative what I've got here is

I've got this roll on deodrant which I

think is one of the refillable ones um

is this a better

alternative at least from this level of

what I know of the fact that it's a

solid yes but I have to see the

ingredients list we have to look at the

ingredients list to really know what's

actually in the deodorant okay so at

least from a sustainability standpoint

that's definitely great to see that it's

not in a plastic container that is

refillable but we really need to check

the ingredients okay so I've got the

ingredients list here I've just pulled

it up on my

iPad it says tapioca

starch baking soda sunflower seed

wax Coco seed butter

Toral exate no idea what that is sterile

alcohol perfume so do you recognize the

ingredients are they easily recognizable

or do they sound highly synthetic very

chemical like it says par

perfume is there any indication on

what's in the perfume all antiag are

scented with a blend of fragrances to

give you the scense you love hm is there

any indication that it's salad free and

parin

free no that's what should give us pause

is when we don't know what's in that

fragrance term that's really the

issue okay I mean there's just so many

bloody

words phate free

deodorant I've got a better way that I

can help you search okay if you just

type in the word organic and then

whatever product you're looking for

organic deodorant that is going to

whittle down the choices significantly

for you well and you're saying that if

it's organic it that means that it won't

contain the phalates and the parabens

not necessarily this is where it gets a

little bit nuanced but at least it

whittel down the results that you'll get

in sege and then you can check the

ingredients one by one and look for the

one that has essential oils instead of

the word fragrance because it's really

the lack of transparency that should

make us pause we have no idea what's in

there we don't know what we're exposing

ourselves too and if you're someone who

is concerned about the chemicals in the

products you're using the toxins you're

being exposed to if you are someone who

is thinking about getting pregnant are

pregnant

breastfeeding or just health conscious

and you don't want these toxins in your

products then this is the work that

needs to be done interesting so just

because it's a roll on doesn't

necessarily mean it's safe right okay

like you just demonstr

and just because it's sustainable also

doesn't mean it's safe so there's a

there's a lot of marketing that goes on

with products and and manufacturers know

that consumers are becoming Savvy

they're becoming aware and they're

demanding safer products so they will

hit all of the buttons and hope that

somebody isn't diligent and doesn't see

through that is fragrance so important

because fragrance is an indicator that

it contains these Fates and parabens is

that why I should be thinking fragrance

is one indicator for whether the

cosmetic product is toxic or not yeah

definitely that would be probably the

easiest and most obvious way that you

can weed products out is just look for

the word fragrance or parfum and if

there's no indication that it comes from

plants that it's from essential oils

then that's not something that you want

to use I read a stat that said 91% of

antier Sprints 95% of shaving products

83% of moisturizers and 63% of

sunscreens contain fragrance and 96% of

shampoos 98% of conditioners 97% of hair

styling products um contain fragrance as

well why are they putting fragrance and

everything would would the products not

sell if there weren't fragrance in there

yeah I think it's there's many reasons

that they put fragrances in so first of

all we are sensory beings and people

respond to fragrances fragrances changes

your mood it uplifts your mood it helps

you feel more confident fragrances

affect us on a very Primal level and the

earlier and earlier that you can get

hooked on frag es the better for these

manufacturers right so that's why

they're putting fragrances in even

children's products and scented

everything if you notice I've got kids

we go out and look for slime I said

let's look for unscented slime it's

nearly impossible to find it you'd have

to make your own slime at home so that's

what we've started doing and the kids

love it because they get to you know be

like little chemists or whatever but you

cannot find

even even they have markers pens crayons

they've got sent ented stickers I mean

scented everything scent is everywhere

now the fragrance industry has

absolutely

exploded in the last 10 or 15 years and

fragrances are the most pervasive Source

One of the most pervasive sources of

toxins in our homes in our daily lives

it's almost like the new secondhand

smoke that's how prevalent it is because

the chemicals once you spray them right

the reason you smell them is because

they have volatilized means that they

have become gases and they reach your

nose you smell them what that also means

is that they are in the air Studies have

shown that these fragrance chemicals

phalates carcinogens allergens they bind

to the dust in your home so it's not

like I smell this fragrance I sprayed it

three hours ago and I'm totally fine

well it's still in the air it's always

going to be in the air unless you

physically remove the

dust so if you're not regularly dusting

mopping sweeping and vacuuming you're

becoming re exposed and this is

absolutely the worst for a child a baby

who is crawling on the floor their faces

and noses and Airways are close to the

ground so they're inhaling the dust that

have settled on the floor I don't know

many people that are sweeping and

dusting every single day but if you if

you have a child then really I really

want you to listen to this because the

child is putting stuff in their mouth so

they're ingesting these dust particles

they're ingesting the chemicals that are

attached to the dust particles they're

inhaling them and they can't detox them

they can't detoxify them from their

bodies and so then what happens they

grow up they start having allergies they

start having cognitive delays they start

having behavioral issues they start

storing more fat they can't lose weight

they have low energy depression and a

host of conditions that we think are are

common but doesn't mean they're normal

and they're avoidable that's that's the

part that is so

important is that these conditions are

avoidable I was just reading about

allergies as you speaking and it's I've

got some stats here food allergies um

the prevalence of food allergies in

children have increased by 50% since the

1990s in the United

States in terms of seasonal allergies in

2021 approximately 81 million Americans

were diagnosed with allergic ritis also

known as hay fever or seasonal allergies

by 2018 nearly

42 million Americans or 133% of the

population had been diagnosed with

asthma in their

lifetime and I mean why is this

happening I mean there's like BBC

articles here that show there's been

huge increases in allergic reactions as

well um the EpiPen businesses on the

rise why are allergies getting worse in

your opinion yeah I think it's this

pervasiveness of the overuse of

fragrances scented products products and

the lack of awareness about the harm

that they cause there's there's studies

showing that there people who as soon as

you light a candle then people start

having migraines they can't think

straight anymore they become dizzy but

not only that like you said increased

asthma incidents once you get asthma it

doesn't go away you have reactive

Airways so then you're triggered again

whenever you encounter these chemicals

what about people who say the Oles have

exploded over the last couple of years

because we're not letting our kids

consume more dirt I hear this a lot

people say it's because we're becoming

too sanitized and our kids need to go

play in the mud that could be it as well

but I would almost I would like to see

the data in the rise in fragrances and

fragrance use overlaid on top of the

incidents of allergies in children and

all of these health conditions I want to

see that data I haven't seen it yet and

I'm hoping that somebody does these

these studies because I think they would

be correlated have you done any research

on you know I always I love thinking

about other populations and

civilizations and that aren't exposed to

the environmental factors we're exposed

to and seeing how they're getting on in

terms of their health outcomes when

they're not exposed to microplastics and

fragrances you know like some of the

tribes in Africa that are still pretty

close to being um un contaminate like

contaminated by human interference in

the western world have you ever looked

at any of those civilizations or

societies yeah the rate and incidence of

cancer is almost non-existent at least

it was almost non-existent but now some

of these chemicals have spread so far

and wide and one example being past

they're known as forever chemicals

because they don't degrade they can

travel so far they basically covered the

globe they are found in polar bear fat

so that just tells you how far up the

food chain these chemicals have traveled

because they don't break down so as soon

as an animal eats it and then gets eaten

by another animal so on and so forth

then it reaches the apex predators right

and it's in stored in their fat and in

polar bears it's been seen that you can

find some of these chemicals so we know

how far and wide that these chemicals

have gone that even these tribes that

are in remote locations aren't

necessarily exempt from being exposed

they're also getting exposed it's just

in the air it's in the water it's in the

soil and what chemicals are this PE fat

pasas P what what does that pfas so per

and polyfloral alkalol substances it's a

huge chemical class of about 15,000

different chemicals and that includes

things like

PFA pfos and PTFE which are more

commonly known as Teflon non-stick

chemicals like this non-stick pan that I

have here exactly so there that P is p P

yes PTFE is the chemical name for teflon

so Teflon is used to create the

non-stick coating and it is believed

that because it is so chemically stable

that it wouldn't come off the pan into

your food but that's not true there's

evidence showing that there is transfer

from the cookware in normal cooking

conditions into food not only that when

you heat that pan high enough it will

vaporize and get into the air and if you

inhale it you run the risk of

experiencing what's known as Teflon

flu and it basically has flu like

symptoms when you inhale that stuff and

so that would be considered an acute

exposure so a onetime higher dose

exposure but what we really need

information on are the chronic low doses

that we're getting just by cooking our

daily eggs on

there have that been any studies done on

the the impact of people cooking on

these versus people that don't cook with

these nonstick with the Teflon pans well

I can tell you that they've measured the

amount of chemicals that are coming off

of the pans and so if you've ever had a

non-stick piece of

cookware it scratches very easily yeah

and some of these scratches are

microscopic and invisible to the to the

naked eye Studies have found that a

surface scratch can release

9,000 particles from that nonstick

coating into your food and if it's a

crack

it that number jumps up to

2.3

billion particles that are transferred

into your food and what's that going to

do to my health what are these P fats

doing to my health well P fats are

linked with several types of cancers so

kidney and testicular cancer thyroid

disorders which thyroid problems are so

common these days but they're not

normal then we have increased risk of

miscarriage pre-term labor pre-term

birth preeclampsia which is high blood

pressure during pregnancy that's could

be deadly you also have increased

obesity that's linked with past

chemicals and past also contribute to an

increase in

endometriosis and PCOS oh

really so PE people who have

endometriosis and PCOS they have found

to have higher levels of pasas in their

bodies and pasas are found in everybody

no one's exempt everyone has pasas in

our bodies but whether or not they're

able to exert toxicity depends on your

inner environment depends on how many

other chemicals your body is working to

fight off I just pulled up some studies

here one of the studies from 2023 which

you might be aware of showed that higher

levels of pasas in the blood of women in

Singapore were associated with a 30 to

40% lower chance of pregnancy and life

birth within one

year um and another study sampled 3 81

blood samples from people trying to lose

weight and no matter the diet that these

participants tried they gained weight if

they had elevated past exposure what the

hell they gained weight even if they

tried different diets yeah so these

chemicals are known endocrine disruptors

are also known as obesogens so they're

increasing the prevalence of obesity so

you store more fat and you can't lose

it obesogens I thought food was the only

obesogen well the chemicals that you're

being exposed to through your cookwar

through food

packaging they're also sources of these

endocrine disruptors and what about

um cancer is pasas linked to cancer have

they done any studies on that with with

animals or yeah in humans it's kidney

and testicular

cancer okay what about prostate I know

that's a big concern for a lot of men

and particular I haven't seen direct

evidence on that but I wouldn't be

surprised if that was also linked

because that's also a hormonal

tissue a study from 2021 in mice at the

University of

Illinois found that a high fat diet

combined with pasas exposure could cause

changes in prostate cells that promote

tumor

growth is there is there an alternative

to P is there something that I could use

instead of this nonstick pan yeah just

get rid of the nonstick chemicals all

together and that would be something as

simple as cast iron stainless steel

glass cookware ceramic cookware just a

bit more annoying isn't it yeah I mean

non-stick cookware is amazing I mean you

you can make food slide off clean up is

a breeze but at what cost you're you

might be saving time when you're cooking

but how much of that time is being taken

off the back end of your lifespan is the

question Susan throw this away I would

but see that's the other thing is if you

are then hearing this and you're like I

got to get rid of my cookware well guess

what you throw that out and it ends up

in a landfill and the P fast chemicals

are now in the environment where they

won't go away so I'm throwing so it

really depends right if you are in the

position to where you can get rid of it

then it might benefit you but the key is

to really stop buying it but you already

have it so it's really up to you in

terms of cookwar that's that's better

for me avoid the non-stick go for

stainless steel cast iron what about the

utensils then so things like I've got a

plastic spatula here in my hand is this

good no because that's melting it's

breaking off into little tiny bits and

fragments of microplastics and

nanoplastics in your food so bad spatula

yes okay the the silicone the silicone

rubber the plastic if you just think

about the fact that it's being heated up

if you've ever looked at one the

Integrity you'll see it's starting to

fray if you see any bits coming off then

you know it's definitely breaking up and

getting into your food yeah there's

loads of little pieces missing from the

end of the plastic and I guess they

that's gone into the food most likely

right slowly dissolving over time right

because with nonstick cookware you can't

use metal utensils right you'll scratch

the surface but guess what even with

that you can scratch the surface so the

wooden one here in my left hand that's

better yes at least from a safety and

microplastic and nonstick chemical

perspective

yes are you concerned at all no not at

all okay so wood is fine wood is totally

fine okay what people normally will say

is I can't properly clean the wood but I

haven't had that issue you just clean it

with soap and water and it is fine okay

so we'll keep the wooden

spatula um um what else in terms of

cooking products so I've got this pan

here you're saying this is a good one

stainless steel yes great keep that

one keep that one um okay what

about what about this nice plastic

container super convenient put my lunch

in it go to work maybe pop it in the

microwave heat it up get my takeaway in

it plastic container good absolutely not

do not microwave plastic containers even

after just a few seconds you'll get

release of billions of microplastic

particles into your food just from a

tiny Square centimeter you'll get

billions of microplastic particles and

with microplastics they're hard it's a

solid Mass it does not break down in the

body what if it says BPA free that's

great but it's still plastic it's still

microplastic it's still nanoplastic

releasing and it probably has salades in

it depending on the type of

plastic

right okay so you don't want to be

microwaving these and and if I get

microplastics um into my food what's the

what's the net impact what's the harm of

that well microplastics don't break down

they don't go away again they're

accumulating in human tissues so they've

actually been found in a whole number

I'm pretty sure they're all over the

body at this point we just have to see

the the evidence to know right and so

they're in human L um lungs blood in the

gut tissue they're in heart they're in

brain they are in the placenta they're

also in penis and they have been

detected in there's microplastics in my

penis yes there could be Studies have

shown that and even in newborn babies so

when babies are born they have their

first bowel movement which is known as

meconium and in the moonium

microplastics have been found so that

means babies are being exposed to

microplastics In Utero they're being

born with Plastics in their body and

what's the risk of that well the risk is

that they don't go away number one and

on a cellular level they're causing

inflammation and oxidative stress and

oxidative stress is free radical damage

and what that means is if you ingest

these microplastic particles which

everyone is and they're in your tissues

and your body cannot get rid of them

then they're basically like the

equivalent of a million little fires all

over your body and unless you have

enough detox capability like

antioxidants to get rid of them they're

there to stay what do you mean by detox

capabilities as in my my liver and yeah

exactly every cell in your body has some

antioxidants in it if you if they if you

didn't you would be dead because in

order to live on this planet and breathe

oxygen we need

antioxidants to neutralize the free

radicals that happen through cellular

respiration right so whenever we breathe

oxygen there are free radicals that are

created and our cells have naturally in

them antioxidants like glutathione and

they help to neutralize these free

radicals but glutathion is also vital

for detoxifying environmental chemicals

so if you think about it how does the

body decide what's more important do I

neutralize these free radicals because I

need to breathe and live or do I have to

deal with these chemicals over here I

don't know so you're literally being

torn your body is torn at this point

what to deal with first and usually it's

the oxygen I need to breathe so let me

neutralize the free radicals from

breathing oxygen then I'll deal with

these chemicals later if I have enough

left in the tank and most people don't

modern lifestyles are resulting in

depletion of glutathione our glutathione

is being robbed by these microplastics

by these parabens phalates and other

chemicals that you find in consumer

products you have to sum up in a

sentence what microplastic are doing to

us what would that sentence be slowly

killing us over

time we're becoming plastic we're

actually known as the plasticine

Epic humankind is more plastic

eventually we will become more plastic

than we are humans if we cons continue

at this rate there have

been over 300 million metric tons of

plastics

produced I mean that's a really big

number but I can't really W my head

around it and they don't go away they

don't go away that's the problem they

just continually break up into smaller

and smaller and smaller and smaller

fragments a 2024 study on microplastics

in human livers kidneys and brains found

that all of them contained microplastics

but the brain contained 10 to 20 times

more than any other

organ the brains measured around 0.5%

plastic by weight that's a guardian

article so does that mean 0.5 5% of my

brain is plastic yes and that's because

plastic is fat soluble and the brain is

mostly fat so microplastics travel there

through the bloodstream we inhale them

they go to the brain and they can't

leave because the brain can the brain

doesn't not have the ability to detoxify

itself the way that other tissues

do I guess it wasn't expecting the

plastic right so it's like who's this I

can't get rid of you so just stay but

then what is it doing to you over time

time what is it doing to our brains over

time I'm going to throw this away by the

way I'm not going to micro my food in

plastic anymore um what is it doing to

our brains over time do you think is

there any

associations I haven't seen any clear

evidence but my hypothesis is that it's

increasing the likelihood of cognitive

decline and the brain is one of the most

important obviously the most important

organs in our bodies and brain problems

don't usually show up until you're in

your Elder years but i' would be

interested to know if the rate of

dementia if people are getting dementia

and other brain Related Disorders

earlier just like cancer I would not be

surprised if I saw that we drink out of

these um stainless steel cups here on

the dire of a CO are these okay to be

drinking out of yes okay does it say

because they're not they're not leeching

microplastics into your drink BPA free

stainless steel okay they weren't

expensive that's good news but um some

times when I go to shops and you know

supermarkets and stuff I grab these

plastic bottles full of water there's

been a lot of conversation around

plastic bottles and water um are these

safe to drink from in your opinion well

if you have no other option then that's

what you've got and so I don't want

people to think I can never drink

bottled water ever again or I'm going to

die because that's not the case I myself

traveled here I had to drink from

bottled water because I didn't bring

enough of my own water with me is that

something that I'm going to panic about

no it's not is it something that I want

to do no but I need water so that's my

only option but if you are able to avoid

that then absolutely avoid bottle water

have there been any studies done on

bottle water yeah there have been so

many studies showing that bottled water

is a major source of microplastics

Because if you think about it plastic

is not meant to be permanent but it kind

of is but at the same time there are

certain conditions that promote leeching

and one of them is if you put that

plastic water bottle in the sun

UV causes plastic to break down so

that's releasing microplastics just

squeezing it physical force is causing

microplastic sharing and

release but not just that just over time

the plastic is just leeching on its own

temperature is another Factor so if you

leave that in a hot

car microplastics if you've ever had a

bottle of water sitting in a hot car and

you drink it and it tasted like plastic

that's because it is it's plastic it's

becoming more plastic

okay but the microplastics are releasing

endocrine disruptors right the same

phades that we talked about in

fragrances are also in plastic water

bottles what about these water bottles

that a lot of people have now they're

kind of like Stanley cut star water

bottles that are made of this this metal

are these better yeah definit it's the

same as these stainless steel cups yeah

okay so everyone should have one of

these for their water but not only that

it's also more sustainable right because

plastic bottles make up the majority of

plastic waste in the environment and all

of those are breaking up again into

smaller and smaller microplastics and

nanoplastics that are basically

polluting everything

now okay so instead of that plastic

container I had this glass container for

the microwave and for my food is better

perfect okay but what about the lid the

lid has got these little plastic handles

on it

yeah so what I would do is take the lid

off if you need to heat up your food

okay and what I also do is keep a space

between my food and the lid so it's not

in direct contact with the plastic how'd

you keep it space like just don't fill

it all the way to the brim oh okay just

keep it just keep a little space Okay

cool so that's that's good it's it's the

contact with the plastic I mean if you

need the container and you need a lid to

store your

food okay this I mean I have those too

so we'll keep the lid just a thing is

just try to keep your food from touching

it if you can okay um what

about this coffee coffee cup I went to

you know you go to a Starbucks I'm

shouldn't say you go to a coffee shop

they give you these takeaway coffee cups

which are made of like this sort of

papery feel good bad

indifferent get rid of them they're

terrible so they're basically lined with

plastic and Studies have shown that

within 15 minutes of contact with the

hot liquid you're getting 25 5,000

microplastic particles in that cup and

most people some people don't drink

their coffee in 15 minutes they'll let

it sit longer and so the longer it sits

the more leeching there is and not only

that the lid is plastic so as the hot

liquid is passing through the lid there

could also be leeching of

microplastics that plastic lining also

leeches heavy metals so it's there are

so many issues with that cup you seem

really pissed off with the cup I'm

actually really they're so pervasive and

I remember being in Germany about 10 15

years ago maybe something like that and

coffee to go was new and at the time I

come from the US they have been around

forever I was like why is this new I

don't understand coffee to go why is

that a thing and my husband said it's

because we sit down and drink our coffee

out of a mug we don't take it to go so

this is like appealing to tourists but

what's wrong with coffee to go is it the

container they it's the container so if

you bring your own container Starbucks

will fill it up or if you bring your own

container some shops will fill it up for

you and they you they might even knock

off 10 cents because you brought your

own container so I'd have to bring

something like I guess like this which

is a steel right with a little glass lid

right okay so okay and it's a plastic

lid so if you can take the lid off to

drink but if you can't

again don't stress out over it okay You'

been through some of these things so far

just on the consumables okay fine okay

so um and last question on consumption

stuff is about food and water should I

be filtering my water absolutely

absolutely if you live in an area where

water has been floridated how do I know

you've got to check the water report

most municipalities have water reports

and if not you can go to the ewg the

environmental working group they have a

water report database that you can check

so just type in your ZIP code of where

you live and it'll tell you what

contaminants are found and which ones

exceed safe limits and it's very helpful

to know what if I get these kind of like

you know these little plastic um water

filter systems you can get where you put

it in the fridge you pour the water in

and then you put like a little filter

thing in you replace it and then you

pour it in are those good it depends on

what type of filter you have okay some

of the more mainstream lower cost lower

end options do not remove floor chlide

number one and they don't filter nearly

enough

chemicals tap water is a source of

hormones

so endocrine disruptors pesticides heavy

metals flu fluoride if it's added to the

water uh agricultural runoff there's a

bunch of different contaminants in tap

water depending on where you live some

are worse than others and there have

even been tragic instances of lead high

levels of lead because of the lead

piping that water is transported through

so we've got to be careful with the

water that we're using to drink and cook

with and so what what's a a sort of

lowcost solution to this for people that

are concerned about the water that

they're consuming and their families are

consuming yeah actually there have been

studies showing that you can boil your

water so if you boil your water that can

actually remove a significant portion of

the microplastic pollutions in there

because of if you've ever noticed at

after you've boiled water there's sort

of a white crust at the bottom of the

pot that's actually calcium

calcification and the microplastics get

trapped in that calcified layer but that

still doesn't take care of all the other

chemicals that are found in tap water so

the best option is to filter

it some filters are more accessible and

affordable than others reverse osmosis

removes the most contaminants but it

also requires the most it generates the

most waste water so it isn't the most

effici efficient and it also can remove

beneficial minerals which you then have

to add back in because it's not good to

drink demineralized water over time so

there are different options that you can

you can use but the best option you have

to filter it at some point at some level

depending on where you are so check your

water and look for a filter so carbon

filters are effective for the most part

but you want to check to make sure that

the filter can remove fluoride as well

okay well in the um show notes of

today's episode what I'll ask you to do

is to just help us put together a bit of

a list of things that you approve of um

relating to the subjects that we've

discussed today just you know some of

the deant stuff that we mentioned um and

also water filter systems and stuff

because I can imagine it can be quite

confusing for people I I imagine most

people listening they just want they

want to know what the most important

simple things that they can can do to

have the biggest potential impact and

also they're going to be quite costc

conscious as we all are about not

overspending on things and they don't

have thousands thousands of pounds but

they want to make significant steps

forward um I guess to that point then if

you were to say to someone what are like

the simple free things we can all do or

cheap things cost effective things we

can do as it relates to the our cookware

things we're

consuming um to make sure that we're

staying as healthy as we possibly can be

first thing is to filter your water yeah

second thing is to get rid of fragrance

products so you're actually saving money

by not buying that stuff right so if you

can remove that then you're better off

thirdly is to cook at home cooking at

home is also significantly more cost

effective than getting takeout all the

time and you're also saving on a massive

amount of toxic exposure that way what

about um the types of foods we

buy have I got to just be buying organic

food if you're able to then it's helpful

but if you can't eating an unprocessed

diet as much as you possibly can hold

Foods single ingredient Foods if you

choose to eat meat fruits and vegetables

things of that nature try to get the

least processed option you possibly can

and cook at home and if you can cook on

stainless steel or cast iron but if

nonstick is all you have that's all

you've got right so just do what you can

with what you've got but try to

eliminate the processed food as much as

you can what about beauty then so I've

got some beauty products here

moisturizers got some eyelin is um this

is a roll on deant you're probably

familiar with these yeah that looks like

an anti-perspirant oh an antiperspirant

oh yeah yeah you're right so that's

different than deodorant so

antiperspirants contain aluminum salts

and those physically block sweat ducts

and so what that does over time is it

prevents you from sweating right that's

why it's anti-perspirant but the problem

with aluminum is that there have been

links to increased risk of breast cancer

in young girls who use

deodorant because aluminum itself also

acts like an estrogen in the body oh God

it smells strong wow okay so these roll

on Deens that are for anyone that

doesn't isn't watching it's the one with

the ball on it the little ball thing

that you roll under your armpit the key

is to avoid the anti- pur Sprint if you

can and I know a lot of people have you

know self conern concerned with with

sweating and everything like that but uh

some people online have done armpit

detoxes so with Apple vinegar and

bentonite clay you make a little paste

out of it smear it under your arms and

that can help to pull out some of these

embedded particles in your sweat Ducks

what is the most compelling study that

you heard about as it relates to because

I am always I'm doing this podcast and

reading about this subject matter I am

increasingly concerned about you know

putting things under my armpit for a

number of reasons it's really hot under

there but then it just feels I don't

know it does then I read this stats

around breast cancer and I thought gosh

I'm it's probably not a good idea to be

like lathering chemicals under my under

my armpit um what is the most compelling

stud you read on this subject that made

you think twice about antiperspirants

yeah it was the increased risk of breast

cancer in young girls that are using

these underarm antiperspirants what

about these other beauty products then

throw that one away um everyday be

beauty products I think I don't even

know what these products are I mean that

looks like a foundation makeup that you

would put all over your face so you go

like this yeah okay or a concealer or

something like that to help even out

your skin tone cover up spots right good

so that goes all over your face right so

products that sit on your skin those are

known as leave on products those

comprise a higher risk than something

you would rinse off like a soap or a

body wash because it's sitting on your

skin so the contact time is longer the

longer something sits on your skin the

longer time it has to penetrate the skin

and get absorbed into your bloodstream

lipstick is also a high-risk product if

you're using the wrong kind because it's

going on your lips and you're having

some

ingestion so don't use Foundation no not

necessarily find a safer foundation so

avoid avoid the fragrance

foundations smells good this one yeah so

it's got fragrances in there I'm sure

okay because foundations are usually

made of chemicals right chemicals don't

always smell good so a lot of

manufacturers put fragrance in there to

maskk the odor even like lip balm I had